1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: We're going to have to talk about Simon Watson. The 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: thing that he said when we get a chance. Thirteen 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: away from five, Barry so Per, Senior political Correspondence with US. 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: Hello, Barry, good afternoon of the mind boggles. 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, Barry. What is going on with the Maori Party? 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'd like to know, what is going 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: on with the Malory Party because if you check out 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: their website, yes, their Mighty Clark hanahwai or no, she's 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: Mighty Clark's there. Yes, that's what I'm saying. 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: Stop it. 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: Mighty Clark is there along with the co leaders and 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: under the headliners to party Malory members of Parliament. Well 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: where is Areny Coprara? 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: Well she's not there? So it does beg the question, 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: doesn't it? What's going on here? And the thing is 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: Copra and Mightighty Clark haven't yet spoken publicly since everything 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: went barely up in the Malori Party. Copra, though you'll remember, 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: posted on social media her support for Kapakinhi late last month. 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: She said I'm still here, she wrote, standing by you, 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: for you and with you. The fight will continue, but 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: for now rest is required. Well you know that's interesting 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: isn't it. And then map Clark, she wrote on her 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: social media page, I've made the decision for our Rohi, 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: the hierarchy Waikato to hold the line. Now I'm not 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 2: sure exactly what that means, but look, if they lose 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: half their caucus, you've got to say they do have 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: not insignificant problems in the Maldi party. 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: Fair to say that looking at the comments that they've 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: both made. These are the young MPs and any Looking 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: at the comments that they've both made and the fact 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: that they've had this meeting yesterday, then it looks like 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: there's a defection or any kaiper has defected to the 34 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: two ousted MP's and Han Rafiti's still sticking with the 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: Maori Party. 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: Well, yes, say, although I haven't seen neither neither of them. 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: Matt Parliament since today. Takuta Ferris was there and you'll hear. 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: From him to turn up for it. 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: Turned up for so did Kapakingi. She was there, but 40 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: the co leadership wasn't there. 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: It's weird, okay, Listen, this treaty obligation stuff for the 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: school boards is back in Parliament. 43 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: Well yes it was this afternoon. The issue, of course, 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: should be championed by the Maldi Party. But of course 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: none of the Maldi Party were there today the removal 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: of the treat of White Hongy from the school's country 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: school boards the co leadership. They weren't there, but the 48 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: new Independent MP, Takuta Ferris was there doing battle over 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: the issue. But not before the Greens Lawrence ju Nan 50 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: had to go at the Education Minister Erica Stanford. 51 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: Who does she think is more committed to your white 52 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 4: tonguey her government or the coalition made up of eighty 53 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: eight ewing over ninety five thousand teachers, Principles, schools and 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: Kuda opposing her repeat of Section one twenty seven sub 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: Subsection t E of the Education and Training Act. 56 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: The person who has committed to the treaty is the 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: Minister of Education. Here we are having a debate about 58 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: the Treaty of Waitangi in a school boards responsibility when 59 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: we should be talking about Maori achievement because that's what 60 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: this government has been doing. We are raising Marii achievement 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: unlike the. 62 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 5: Last lot Subpremtary Takuta Ferris, what. 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: Action is the Minister taking? So the EWE chairs petition 64 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: to protect Tatidity in education. 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: I am actively seeking a meeting with EWE chairs to 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: discuss the responsibility that the Crown has for the treaty. 67 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: Now, it just occurred to me that given Takuta Ferris's 68 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: opposition to Asians campaigning and a Maori electorate that basically 69 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: following Ju Nan, who was born in China. 70 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how he feels, got him weighing 71 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: the debate. 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: That's why an appeal to me, I thought. Following on 73 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: from that, so yeah. 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Okay, listen, I'm Donald Trump. Have you got an your 75 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: TDS ready? Let's go, Let's go. 76 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: No, No, I don't have any TVs. It's what But look, interestingly, 77 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: in the two hundred twenty fifteen email egged Donald Trump 78 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: on or egged the situation on when basically Epstein said 79 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: that he could produce photos of Donald and girls in 80 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: bikinis in my kitchen. So no less then the late 81 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Jennifer Dufrey or Dufrey sorry said she was a teenage 82 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: SPA attended marri Lago when she was poached by in 83 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: two thousand by Maxwell to work for Epstein. Interestingly, Max 84 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: rules now serving, of course, as we all know, a 85 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: twenty year prison term. But after being interviewed by the 86 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: Deputy Attorney General. She's been shifted to a minimum security prison, 87 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: which we're told she's rather enjoying. So the White House spokesperson, 88 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: Carolyn Levitt, she said Democrats selectively leaked those emails to 89 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: create a fight, fight, negative or narrative to smear the president. 90 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 5: He was from Palm Beach, and so was Jeffrey Epstein. 91 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein was a member at mar A Lago until 92 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 5: President Trump kicked him out because Jeffrey Epstein was a 93 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 5: pedophile and he was a creep in this email you 94 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 5: refer to with the name of a victim that was 95 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 5: unredacted now and has since been reported on in this room. 96 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 5: So I will go ahead and say it, Virginia Guffrey, 97 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 5: and God rest her soul that she maintained that there 98 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: was nothing inappropriate. She ever witnessed that President Trump was 99 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 5: always extremely professional and friendly to her. This administration has 100 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 5: done more with respect to transparency when it comes to 101 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein than any administration ever. Now they're talking about 102 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 5: it all of a sudden because President Trump is in 103 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 5: the Oval office, But when Joe Biden was sitting in there, 104 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 5: the Democrats never brought this up. This wasn't an issue 105 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: that they cared about because they actually don't care about 106 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 5: the victims in these cases. They care about trying to 107 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 5: score political points against President Trump. 108 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course Joe Biden had nothing to do 109 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: with Jeffrey Hips. 110 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: You I understand very so the Senior Political Correspondence. 111 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to 112 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 2: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 113 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.