1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Nineteen away from six. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Find You're 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: one of a kind. 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm the Huddle this evening we have Mark Sainsbury, broadcaster, 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: David Farraki we blog and Curio Polster. Hell are you two? 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 3: Hello? How are you hear? 7 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: That says? Are you ever in your time as a 8 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: political letters who a political report has seen anybody try 9 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: to clear their name? 10 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 4: Well? 11 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: You see people, No, not very successfully. This is a 12 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: really odd one. I mean, when I heard given Barry 13 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: and Barry break the story and it was who are 14 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: the people are in the meetings? What I'm going to know? 15 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: So the people in the meeting are the one he 16 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: lays the hand on in what he says was an 17 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: enthusiastic conversation, not sin of an assault. And then there 18 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: are two others who are also staffers who are there. 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 4: But the. 20 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: It suggested that the staffer who has raised the concern 21 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: as a staffer who's been there for about twenty four 22 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: hours in the office and then has has gone back 23 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: to the department or who knows who and said something's happened. 24 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: I mean, David, I don't know what you think that 25 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: just this, the whole thing seems a bit bonkers. 26 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you have to think Bailey's been pretty hard 27 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 5: done by. If you took away the politics for a sec, 28 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 5: if this was an employment relations dispute, the employment tribunal 29 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 5: would be saying this was a terrible process, there wasn't 30 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 5: natural justice, etc. Now politics doesn't quite work like that, 31 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 5: but it was definitely material about whether this is one 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 5: person's view or three person's view. So I do think 33 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 5: Bailey it sounds like, has been hard done by. I 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 5: don't think this means there's a pass back, though, because 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 5: I think time moves on, there's new MPs wanting to 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 5: move up the letter, so to speak. But as you said, 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 5: good on him for actually saying I care about my reputation. 38 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 4: This matters to me. 39 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there is some courage that is required 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: to do this. Do you think saying so that the 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: PM's office is going to be stoked about this? 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: Though? 43 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: Probably not. Only The thing I couldn't help but think 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: was that, you know, they obviously didn't do a lot 45 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: of due diligence on this. They were almost sort of 46 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: maybe happy to let him go because you had the loser, 47 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: which didn't do too well. So I think there was 48 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: sort of you know, no one's looking too care fait this, 49 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: So here we go. We've got another problem. Oh he's resigning, 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: Thank god to that. 51 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably a little bit of that. Hey listen, David 52 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Prime Minister did well with with Donald Trump, didn't he. 53 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 4: Yeah. 54 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 5: Look as as good as an outcome as you can 55 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 5: get based on the best outcome from me with President 56 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: Trump is he doesn't suddenly impose an extra fifty percent 57 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 5: tariff on you. 58 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 4: But we've done. Think Canada, where he got offended. 59 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 5: The provincial governor was running an add quoting Ronald greg 60 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 5: against tariffs, and that caused Trump to stop all the 61 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 5: negotiations between the countries. So basically the thing with Trump, 62 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 5: he's transactional. 63 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: You go and you talk golf, you talk to New Zealand. 64 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 5: You don't actually try and get anything out of him. 65 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 5: You really just building that relationship. 66 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 67 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Do you much of a golf of Saint Zone? 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: No? No, no, So. 69 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: No opinions on where they should go golfing when Donald Trump. 70 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 4: No, not on that. 71 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: I speed the one who get the cup for the 72 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: most golf in any of those sort of media things 73 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: when we probably woul't it much staked to play anyway. 74 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, we'll take a break and come 75 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: back to you guys, and just to take. 76 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the global 77 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: leader in luxury real estate. 78 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, back with the huddle, David Pharaoh, Mark Sainsbury. David 79 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: is Chris Luxen's wealth fair game. In a debate about 80 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: capital gains tax. 81 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: It's a cheap tech take. 82 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 5: I mean like it's not the first one to do it, 83 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 5: where you know, a fishy. Politicians who are wealthy always 84 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 5: been accused of, oh, you're doing. 85 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: It just because of how it fits you, which. 86 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 5: They used it to John Key, and it was ridiculous 87 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: because yeah, John Key's will hide whether it's fifty or 88 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: one hundred million dollars. 89 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: And I don't think he ever. 90 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 5: Did policy based on how it would effect come because 91 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 5: he doesn't have to have to care. 92 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: So I think it's a low blow. But it's what 93 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: you get in politics. 94 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: What are your Reconcernso yeah, well. 95 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: Look pretty much the same look. I mean, it was 96 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: a gift, wasn't it. You're releasing a capital gains text 97 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: and i'd seen that sort of seen that sale of 98 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: his beaks property. So you know what a prime minister 99 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: owns or ministers and it's all in the Register of 100 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: Bicinary Interest, so it's public knowledge and you know the 101 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: day the days are gone where you you know, you 102 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: didn't even know whether people had a family, you know, 103 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: when you're a politician, it's all out there. So yeah, 104 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: look and yeah there's a bit low rent, but fair game. 105 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: Yeah it's low rent. But it's effective, isn't it, David. 106 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's the most effective thing that the Labor 107 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: Party has done in the last two weeks. 108 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, lock lock, These things can work. Been said that 109 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 5: my experience as Aupholster, when you go too aggressive as 110 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 5: an opposition, yes you damage the government, but you actually 111 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 5: damage your own standing and favorable He is not positionally 112 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 5: the too, So you have to be careful about this 113 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 5: stuff because it may be effective, but people don't like 114 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 5: it and it can rub off on you. I've seen 115 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 5: that quite a lot over the years. Here's the irony artisfict. 116 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 5: I have no inside knowledge here. I've felt lux and 117 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 5: it's been silly his houses just because he doesn't want 118 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 5: them as a distraction going forward, so that ironically it 119 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 5: was him getting rid of them, so they wouldn't be 120 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 5: an issue. That's allowed labor to make them an issue. 121 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that's exactly right. I don't think 122 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: there's anyways. 123 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 5: If you've got your money and shares or managed funds 124 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: houses though you all how anyone have more than two houses? 125 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: No, totally. It's the butter thing all over again. Rates 126 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: went up by more, but we're fixated on the price 127 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: of butter. Okay, now saying so, I don't know that 128 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: the public health guys are doing a very good job 129 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: of explaining to wild parents why they can't jab the 130 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: kids early. 131 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: Look, I couldn't understand you put it to a so clearly. 132 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: Just explain is the reason you've got no money? Is 133 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: it dangerous? What is the reason for not making it available? 134 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: And it's a bit like Chris Luxon with Mike when 135 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: talking about Bailey, you know, you just it was just 136 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: all over the place, and yes, everything we most of us. 137 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure I believe that the vaccines are valuable and 138 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: they should be encouraged. Yes, that's a great message, but 139 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: mums know best. And if you're a mum and there 140 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: is you know, measles developing around you, let the mum 141 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: decide what's best for her child, just like the doctor did. 142 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I feel a little bit like this. I mean, 143 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: and the thing about this, David that is kind of 144 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: counter and seems to be just a little counterintuitive, is 145 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: that we've been told by these guys you need to 146 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: get jabbing is really important, especially in the phase of 147 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, the COVID hesitancy and stuff like that, and 148 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: now to be told when we're all like can we 149 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: jab and I'm like no, it's a bit weird. 150 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: Isn't it. 151 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 5: It's still have a typical bureaucracy, like you have the schedule, 152 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 5: it's all worked out, and it's all based on you know, 153 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 5: generally of things, but doesn't take account of when you're 154 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 5: the measle outbreak. 155 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: People get scared if they want to get them six 156 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: months early. 157 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 5: It shouldn't end up costing the country more because you 158 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 5: have got her eventually. I mean, there are no arguments 159 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 5: against which is who the immunity should work. So unless 160 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 5: you're in an area with multiple cases, they just aren't 161 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 5: going to be enough people for it to spread. 162 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: But you know, peace of mind. I'm a parent. 163 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 5: I don't want to take risks with my kids. So 164 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 5: you do need to be bureaucracy to show that flexibility. 165 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of empathy actually would be the 166 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: thing that the doctor ordered. Now sayings, so, do you 167 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: know what six seven means? 168 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: Yes? 169 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: John, Then I have no idea what this means. Explain 170 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: it to me. 171 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: Well it is, well, I when I say I know 172 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: what it is, I've never used it in my life. 173 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's a sort of a well it's. 174 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: What you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, Passing 175 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: to David. 176 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, David, I feel so old. 177 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: I had to google. 178 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 5: I saw I knew some of the stuff. The Ben 179 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 5: voice goes on about Rose secrets. I thought I knew, 180 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 5: but I've never heard of sixty seven. 181 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: It's a year of my beer, so I thought it 182 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 4: was about that. 183 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: No, it's never to be pronounced sixty seven. Apparently you can't. 184 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: If you say sixty seven, don't you have to yell 185 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: six seven and then hope you got the conceptn Yeah, 186 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: who knows? Okay, jeez, Okay, thanks guys, I appreciate it. 187 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: You've been really helpful there. That's Mark Sainsbury, David Farrer. 188 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: I was asking them that because dictionary dot Com has 189 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: revealed it as the word of the year sixty seven, 190 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: and they say, you're supposed to sort of yell it out. 191 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be purposefully nonsensical and slightly absurd, and 192 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: the kids use it as another way of saying so 193 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: so or maybe this may be that. So if you're like, 194 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: how are you feeling, they go, oh, six seven, Yeah, 195 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: I suppose I can understand that. 196 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 197 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: news talks. 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