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Speaker 2: We John Barker runs the International Organization of Vine and

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Speaker 2: Wine and is with us. Now, Hey, John, hi Ella,

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Speaker 2: Now our problem appears to be a frost and Marlboro.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems to be the case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what about the rest of the southern hemisphere?

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Speaker 1: Well, really the case to the rest of the world.

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Speaker 1: I think we've seen a whole bunch of different climatic

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Speaker 1: impacts around the world. So we've had we've had frost,

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Speaker 1: we've had flooding, we've had heat, we've had disease pressure

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Speaker 1: in various different places. In fact, the southern hemisphere is

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Speaker 1: a bit down, but the northern hemispheres is probably down

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Speaker 1: even more. That in fact has a lot to do

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Speaker 1: with France having a very small harvest this year. I

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Speaker 1: think there were twenty three percent down in total.

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Speaker 2: What happened to them.

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Speaker 1: A combination Again, it's reasonably I know that there was

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Speaker 1: a reasonably cool year in some places, well cool where

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Speaker 1: I was, but in south very hot, and some places

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Speaker 1: had disease pressure as well, caused by rains.

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Speaker 2: So John, is this just is this a function of

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Speaker 2: climate change? We're just going to have the climate's going

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Speaker 2: to change, and wine production is going to be up

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Speaker 2: and down as it does that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, wine production's always up and down, and what

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Speaker 1: we've seen historically you should be very up and down

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Speaker 1: before we had better techniques and that variation has kind

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Speaker 1: of narrowed off. But in the last fifteen years we've

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Speaker 1: seen the variation between global harvests kind of get bigger

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Speaker 1: and bigger, and that's definitely due to climate change.

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Speaker 2: Hey, do you know what? I was reading something fascinating

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Speaker 2: last night? Do you see the Scandies are growing wine

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Speaker 2: now in really really cold parts of their countries?

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's quite extraordinary. In fact, the

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Speaker 1: other day I received a letter from the Norwegian grape

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Speaker 1: growers wanting to become members of our organization.

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Speaker 2: Did you say, absolutely not with your weird kind of.

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Speaker 1: I haven't actually tried their wine, but I think if

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Speaker 1: if they can do it, good on them.

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Speaker 2: It's made from a grape called Solaris, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, well, the great Solaris is one of these

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Speaker 1: grapes that are made by combining two great varieties, and

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Speaker 1: that they can be a bit more hardy to the

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Speaker 1: colder conditions.

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Speaker 2: But what do you expect to taste like John I

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Speaker 2: imagine if you're growing grapes in a really cold place,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be quite sharp.

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Speaker 1: You'll definitely have a more acidity in the taste profile.

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Speaker 1: It probably depends a bit on the nature of the

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Speaker 1: rightening season, but yeah, some of these varieties will will,

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Speaker 1: you know, accumulate a bit more sugar so they won't

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Speaker 1: too sharp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting stuff, John, Thanks very much, appreciate it. Joon Barker,

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Speaker 2: International Organization of Vine and Wine Director General.

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