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Speaker 2: This week on The Big League Podcast, Australian rugby league

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Speaker 2: journalist and Triple M radio host Ben Dobbin joins to

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Speaker 2: explain why Kurt Capewell has earned a shock recall for

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Speaker 2: the Queensland State of Origin side. Dobbin will argue why

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Speaker 2: New Zealand needs to host a state of Origin match,

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Speaker 2: why the Anzac Day Test should return, and how seriously

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Speaker 2: is the christ Church bid for an NRL team being

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Speaker 2: taken in Australia. Michael Burgess and I will react to

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Speaker 2: a frustrating defeat to the Storm and examine how they

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Speaker 2: can avoid another humiliating loss to the Titans. My name

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Speaker 2: is Nathan Limb. Let's go lo b LB. Kurt Capewell

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Speaker 2: is back in State of Origin. Who would have guessed it?

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Speaker 3: Not me?

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Speaker 2: He's been named on the interchange in place of Selwyn

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Speaker 2: Cobbo for Game two in Melbourne next wedding state. The

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Speaker 2: Warriors second rower has been hampered by injury in a

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Speaker 2: frustrating season where he struggled to find top form. He

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Speaker 2: only recently returned from a calf injury after weeks on

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Speaker 2: the sidelines, but cape Well's attitude is unshakable. I have

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Speaker 2: so much respect for people who are relentlessly positive and relaxed.

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Speaker 2: He rocked up to the Warriors press conference two weeks

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Speaker 2: ago in his Queensland Maroons cap having missed selection, cracking jokes,

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Speaker 2: winding up his blues. Mad coach. You can't help but

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Speaker 2: with Mitch Barnett lining the reserves for New South Wales,

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Speaker 2: game two is going to have a little bit of

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Speaker 2: extra Australian Kiwi Spice Michael Burgess, Senior New Zealand Herald

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Speaker 2: Right up. I was pretty shocked at this selection.

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Speaker 4: What did you think?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was definitely something you didn't see coming. As

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Speaker 5: you say, he's been injured, he had that calf injury,

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Speaker 5: he had, he had a throat injury that put him

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Speaker 5: the impact that we all expected him to make with

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Speaker 5: the Warriors. But when you think about it a little bit,

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Speaker 5: it's actually not that surprising. Queen's then love to pick

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Speaker 5: guys who have been there, done that. They're so loyal.

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Speaker 5: He was so good for Queensland in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 5: that with the morons. They just if you a guy

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Speaker 4: He's such a gritty type player, isn't he.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's had that success at the Sharks, with Penrith,

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Speaker 5: is surprising news. But when you think about it a

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Speaker 5: bit more, it does it does kind of make sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean Game one looking at that was kind of ruined,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it. With the Joseph Swally he's sending off. I

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Speaker 2: thought it was deserved. I thought he deserved to go

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Speaker 2: people saying Riche Walsh slipped he did. I think Swali

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Speaker 2: he should have been lower. We're heading into game two,

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Speaker 2: I suppose, and surely I know you're a Queensland supporter, bitch,

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Speaker 5: I do it one way for Michael McGuire because I

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Speaker 5: really think I felt so I felt so sorry for

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Speaker 5: hard I've seen her hard he worked with the Kiwis

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Speaker 4: He just leaves nothing to chance.

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Speaker 5: He's put months and months into this and talk about something,

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Speaker 5: talk about a coach killer, talk about something completely out

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Speaker 5: was just relieved that he was sent off because I

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Speaker 5: would be great for McGuire for the Blues to win,

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Speaker 5: Otherwise there's already going to be questions over is he

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Speaker 2: Now we're going to do't worry. We haven't forgotten about

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Speaker 2: Ben Dobbyin. Up next, he's going to tell us why

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Speaker 2: Kirk cape Well has been recalled, why New Zealand should

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Speaker 2: host a State of Origin match, why the ANZAC Test

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Speaker 4: That's up next.

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Speaker 6: The Big League Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We're very lucky to be joined now on The Big

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Speaker 2: League Podcast by Australian rugby league journalists and Triple M

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Speaker 2: radio host Ben Dobyin.

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Speaker 4: Ben, thank you so much for your time. How are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it couldn't be better. Thanks being looking. We're halfway

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Speaker 3: through the rugby league season, so we're on the run home.

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Speaker 3: We've got Game two of the State of Origin here

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Speaker 3: in Australia next Wednesday night. Round fifteen was just a

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Speaker 3: massive round the Beanie for brain cancer around the mark

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Speaker 3: Us Foundation and look all.

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Speaker 7: In all, I can't pick a clear winner at the moment.

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Speaker 7: There is a lot.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot to play out in the rugby league

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Speaker 3: world with who will win the Telstra Premiership. Nobody's really

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Speaker 3: hundred percent going to be there.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about our state of origin being because there's

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Speaker 2: always such a massive topic. At this point in the year,

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Speaker 2: Kurt Capewell has been selected back into the Queensland side.

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Speaker 4: What do you make of this?

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Speaker 2: Mitch Barnett's obviously still on the New South Wales squad list,

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Speaker 2: but that's massive for Kurt.

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Speaker 7: So I'm massive for kurk Capewell.

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Speaker 3: He's a charliv A boy and a lot of your

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Speaker 3: listeners wouldn't realize where Charlie will is.

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Speaker 7: It's about eight hours west of Brisbane and it's a very.

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Speaker 3: Remote town and they love him out there. The mayor,

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Speaker 3: Sean Radnich, the great Zoro made, He's called it Kurt

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Speaker 3: I talked about this yesterday on Triple M Sunday's Indian.

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Speaker 3: I believe that the reason that Brisbane aren't going anywhere

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Speaker 3: He's leadership. Now he's been He's been busted for you guys.

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Speaker 3: He was so injured and long. He's only been back

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Speaker 7: Everywhere he has gone, he has won.

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Speaker 3: Everywhere Kurt Caple has been too one, whether it's Cronulla,

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Speaker 3: He's a winner and I think that this is long

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Speaker 3: but long term gain. The fact is that he'll be

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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say, you know, you said

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Speaker 7: I was surprised he spent significant time injury must mate, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I spoke to his manager about it a couple of

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Speaker 7: It's something that.

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Speaker 3: You know, like everybody will be surprised, but Queensland are

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I want to ask you.

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of talk, as there usually is

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Speaker 4: It's two Australian states.

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Speaker 2: Why would we take a game to New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: Now, obviously there are loads of State of Origin fans

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Speaker 3: If I'm honest with you, I'd love to have it

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Speaker 3: they're very much AFL states and the people that fly

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Speaker 7: But the NRL, in their wisdom, sell one of the games.

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Speaker 3: Game two they sell. So that's just the way they

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Speaker 3: that makes perfect sense now, you guys, and I mean

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Speaker 3: you'll see it first hand. The last supporters booking their

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Speaker 3: Now that probably hasn't been announcing you guys yet, but

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Speaker 7: Now, I was in America for the Round one this

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Speaker 2: Another big topic around the Nrral at the moment is

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Speaker 7: Think that makes it, you know, like it makes it.

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Speaker 3: A national comp and I don't mind that second team

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Speaker 3: We've seen when the Warriors are going well, that the

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Speaker 3: But you've got to have the money to go into it.

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Speaker 7: We've seen with the.

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Speaker 7: So for me, I like it, I really do.

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Speaker 3: But I also genuinely think that, you know, like there's

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Speaker 7: An ANZAC Gay Tests. That's now I'm with you on this.

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Speaker 7: I love them India Test. I don't like it at

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Speaker 7: But mate, the scheduling is just so hard. Now.

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Speaker 7: The end Zac Day test that was always very special.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant Ben, Thank you so much for your time that's

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Speaker 4: You have a great rest of your day.

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Speaker 3: Good on.

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Speaker 7: Thanks brother.

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Speaker 4: This is the Big League Podcast.

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Speaker 6: This is going yeah, the Big League Podcast on the

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Speaker 6: Warriors Bad Wagons.

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Speaker 4: It's day one.

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Speaker 2: Well the Warriors have sustained a frustrating loss to the Storm.

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Speaker 2: Here are the highlights of a turbulence but ultimately deflating

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Speaker 9: A puppy look'st for a puppy love a pass that's

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Speaker 10: Beautiful girl and it's another score. Indeed, you know Meshi

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Speaker 9: Another trip from Melbourne, Little cookst Pannis Bunnies, he's over.

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Speaker 8: And another penalty comeing. Montoya's been benned. The manage already called.

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Speaker 4: Audio courtesy of sky Sport. That storm last spurge obviously frustrating.

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Speaker 4: You were there, What was the atmosphere?

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Speaker 5: Man, it feels like they blew That atmosphere was great.

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Speaker 5: The atmosphere it had the feeling of you hit them

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the start, because it was near perfect.

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Speaker 2: The Warriors were dominant, They had the Storm camped on

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Speaker 5: That's probably the worst start he can remember, which shows

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Speaker 2: Storm really gained the upper handed. The one that stood

437
00:21:15,053 --> 00:21:17,773
Speaker 2: out to me was Adam Pompey had a clear miss

438
00:21:18,053 --> 00:21:21,133
Speaker 2: on Ali Kator sent him straight through the line. Katoora

439
00:21:21,213 --> 00:21:22,893
Speaker 2: linked up with Nick Meeni and that was the Storm's

440
00:21:22,933 --> 00:21:25,533
Speaker 2: fourth try and it gave them the lead. I've been

441
00:21:25,573 --> 00:21:28,933
Speaker 2: a massive supporter of Adam Pompey, and I think he's

442
00:21:28,973 --> 00:21:31,853
Speaker 2: a really good player. He's been ice cold off the tee.

443
00:21:32,733 --> 00:21:37,573
Speaker 2: I like him at center. That one really stood out

444
00:21:37,613 --> 00:21:40,573
Speaker 2: to me and was really frustrating because he obviously got

445
00:21:40,653 --> 00:21:43,213
Speaker 2: caught in two minds about covering the player they had

446
00:21:43,253 --> 00:21:45,373
Speaker 2: out the back, and Kato just ran straight past and

447
00:21:45,453 --> 00:21:46,813
Speaker 2: Pompey didn't even get an arm to him.

448
00:21:47,933 --> 00:21:50,493
Speaker 5: Yeah, well there's two points there. I mean, Barry Rockeberry

449
00:21:50,533 --> 00:21:52,613
Speaker 5: is on the ground with his shoulder injury. So the

450
00:21:52,653 --> 00:21:55,293
Speaker 5: Warriors are down to twelve and they were a bit disorganized.

451
00:21:55,293 --> 00:21:57,533
Speaker 5: You've got to respond better. It was a great line

452
00:21:57,573 --> 00:22:01,253
Speaker 5: by Cartoa, and Hughes found him perfectly. I think it

453
00:22:01,293 --> 00:22:04,133
Speaker 5: also says just how well Kartoa played. That was probably

454
00:22:04,133 --> 00:22:06,693
Speaker 5: another frustrating thing is that I've always had a bit

455
00:22:06,733 --> 00:22:09,573
Speaker 5: of an uneasy feeling about the way they let Cartoua go.

456
00:22:09,773 --> 00:22:11,933
Speaker 5: I know he kind of wanted to go. He wanted

457
00:22:11,973 --> 00:22:17,133
Speaker 5: a new a new surroundings. COVID was hard for him,

458
00:22:17,453 --> 00:22:20,053
Speaker 5: playing in Nathan Brown, playing under Stacy Jones was all hard.

459
00:22:20,133 --> 00:22:22,773
Speaker 4: But man, he was good. Carte was so good and

460
00:22:22,813 --> 00:22:25,773
Speaker 4: you like, jeez, he's kind of one that got away Pompey.

461
00:22:25,853 --> 00:22:28,413
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was. It's not what you want, obviously,

462
00:22:28,533 --> 00:22:31,053
Speaker 5: but I agree that I think he's been I think

463
00:22:31,093 --> 00:22:33,213
Speaker 5: he's been excellent since he's come back into the team. Yeah,

464
00:22:33,773 --> 00:22:37,813
Speaker 5: and it's kind of uncharacteristic, but they had they had

465
00:22:37,893 --> 00:22:39,813
Speaker 5: issues on both edges as the game went on. That

466
00:22:39,933 --> 00:22:42,653
Speaker 5: was another thing is that they looked they look kind

467
00:22:42,653 --> 00:22:43,813
Speaker 5: of vulnerable on both edges.

468
00:22:44,493 --> 00:22:46,213
Speaker 4: I pointed out because we do have to be fair.

469
00:22:46,253 --> 00:22:48,293
Speaker 2: I can't just be a cheerleader for a player and

470
00:22:48,373 --> 00:22:51,213
Speaker 2: not also point out when they make mistakes. But these

471
00:22:51,773 --> 00:22:54,653
Speaker 2: the two symboons in the second half, which obviously swayed

472
00:22:54,693 --> 00:22:57,293
Speaker 2: the game. The Storm scored tries in the absence of

473
00:22:57,333 --> 00:22:59,493
Speaker 2: these players, Warriors were down to eleven for a period.

474
00:23:00,453 --> 00:23:04,133
Speaker 2: Both were fully deserved in my view. Montoya's won where

475
00:23:04,133 --> 00:23:06,733
Speaker 2: he didn't retreat ten after giving a penalty and through

476
00:23:06,813 --> 00:23:09,453
Speaker 2: the Storm player was a Jerome Hues out of bounds.

477
00:23:09,853 --> 00:23:11,853
Speaker 2: That was a brain explosion for me. I don't know

478
00:23:11,933 --> 00:23:13,933
Speaker 2: what was going on there. Deserved to go to the

479
00:23:13,973 --> 00:23:16,893
Speaker 2: bin and the Storm squored straight afterwards. Dallan's one, he

480
00:23:16,973 --> 00:23:18,493
Speaker 2: looked like he came out of the line for an

481
00:23:18,533 --> 00:23:21,693
Speaker 2: intercept as we see sometimes, and obviously it wasn't there.

482
00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:23,453
Speaker 2: He just stuck an arm out and got a play

483
00:23:23,453 --> 00:23:27,453
Speaker 2: around the neck. Those things are so frustrating and such

484
00:23:27,493 --> 00:23:28,293
Speaker 2: a massive game.

485
00:23:29,653 --> 00:23:30,693
Speaker 4: Was it a result?

486
00:23:30,813 --> 00:23:32,733
Speaker 2: Do you think of the pressure they were under at

487
00:23:32,773 --> 00:23:35,653
Speaker 2: that point in time, that that frustration was creeping in

488
00:23:35,813 --> 00:23:39,013
Speaker 2: and that was I guess manifested in those errors.

489
00:23:40,613 --> 00:23:42,373
Speaker 4: I think it was a I think it was.

490
00:23:42,613 --> 00:23:45,413
Speaker 5: It's kind of epitomized the night where the Warriors did

491
00:23:45,413 --> 00:23:46,573
Speaker 5: a lot of really good things.

492
00:23:47,453 --> 00:23:49,973
Speaker 4: Dominated a lot of stats, you know that. I think

493
00:23:50,093 --> 00:23:50,853
Speaker 4: we've discussed.

494
00:23:50,933 --> 00:23:55,733
Speaker 5: They dominated yard post contact meters they had Melbourne Storm

495
00:23:55,773 --> 00:23:57,573
Speaker 5: had twice they amount of mistackle, so a lot of

496
00:23:57,693 --> 00:24:00,853
Speaker 5: the Warriors had more completions. They dominated a lot of stuff.

497
00:24:00,893 --> 00:24:04,493
Speaker 5: But the details and the composure and the calmness, I

498
00:24:04,613 --> 00:24:06,813
Speaker 5: think that was the thing the whole night. The Warriors

499
00:24:06,893 --> 00:24:12,053
Speaker 5: weren't the composed and those two incidents, especially the Montoya one,

500
00:24:13,253 --> 00:24:15,053
Speaker 5: he was a bit unlucky because I think if you

501
00:24:15,093 --> 00:24:18,013
Speaker 5: look back closely, I don't know if that was a strip.

502
00:24:18,253 --> 00:24:20,653
Speaker 5: I think maybe it was just loose carry. And so

503
00:24:20,773 --> 00:24:22,813
Speaker 5: he actually got the ball. So he's already a bit annoyed.

504
00:24:23,013 --> 00:24:24,893
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, I've got the ball now being penalized.

505
00:24:25,453 --> 00:24:27,933
Speaker 5: But yeah, very very silly to do the tackle. He

506
00:24:28,013 --> 00:24:32,413
Speaker 5: didn't get burned, but yeah, Dallen's as well. It's just

507
00:24:32,493 --> 00:24:37,453
Speaker 5: a lack of sort of composure, a reflex action. But

508
00:24:37,533 --> 00:24:39,093
Speaker 5: the question you got to ask, and the thing I

509
00:24:39,133 --> 00:24:40,973
Speaker 5: think that bugs a lot of people about the Storm.

510
00:24:41,253 --> 00:24:44,133
Speaker 5: We admire them, but they do seem to get away

511
00:24:44,173 --> 00:24:45,973
Speaker 5: with more than most teams. That's why they're so hard

512
00:24:46,013 --> 00:24:48,733
Speaker 5: to play against. Because Harry Grant with about ten minutes

513
00:24:48,773 --> 00:24:52,893
Speaker 5: to go, same thing as Montoya, completely offside, gets in

514
00:24:52,973 --> 00:24:55,453
Speaker 5: the way and the referee just gives a penalty of

515
00:24:55,493 --> 00:24:56,453
Speaker 5: blatant professional foul.

516
00:24:56,493 --> 00:24:59,093
Speaker 4: Why go another one.

517
00:24:59,293 --> 00:25:02,333
Speaker 5: Jerome Hughes one of the best players on the night.

518
00:25:02,373 --> 00:25:05,253
Speaker 5: He's amazing, He's been the he is the guy that

519
00:25:07,053 --> 00:25:09,453
Speaker 5: he's becoming one of the greatest enemies and Warriors history.

520
00:25:09,733 --> 00:25:11,453
Speaker 5: He's beaten them eleven times in a row. He just

521
00:25:11,453 --> 00:25:14,733
Speaker 5: plays so well every time. But he did smash Wade again.

522
00:25:14,813 --> 00:25:17,173
Speaker 4: In the face. Yep, blood coming from his mouth.

523
00:25:17,493 --> 00:25:19,733
Speaker 5: The referee looked at it, the bunker looked at it,

524
00:25:21,253 --> 00:25:22,893
Speaker 5: and there was nothing, not even a penalty.

525
00:25:22,973 --> 00:25:24,573
Speaker 4: So you do wonder.

526
00:25:24,813 --> 00:25:27,853
Speaker 5: I think it's a bit of the Michael Jordan effect

527
00:25:27,893 --> 00:25:29,453
Speaker 5: with the Storm, where they're a big team, they're a

528
00:25:29,493 --> 00:25:31,293
Speaker 5: well known team, and they just get away with a

529
00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:34,733
Speaker 5: bit more. They're very smart, they know how to get

530
00:25:34,773 --> 00:25:37,613
Speaker 5: in the way, they know how to manipulate the situation

531
00:25:37,733 --> 00:25:40,533
Speaker 5: at the ruck, and it makes them so hard to

532
00:25:40,613 --> 00:25:43,053
Speaker 5: play against. And maybe that doubles back to your point

533
00:25:43,093 --> 00:25:47,933
Speaker 5: with your question that the frustration built for the Warriors

534
00:25:48,133 --> 00:25:51,973
Speaker 5: and it kind of manifested in what Montoya did and

535
00:25:52,093 --> 00:25:53,533
Speaker 5: to a lesser extend what Dellan did.

536
00:25:53,933 --> 00:25:56,653
Speaker 2: Just finally, birche the has been a big topic for

537
00:25:56,733 --> 00:25:59,453
Speaker 2: the last few weeks to Mighty Martin. She has Tavita,

538
00:25:59,493 --> 00:26:02,773
Speaker 2: but Martin especially doing so well in the saddle. A

539
00:26:02,933 --> 00:26:05,053
Speaker 2: number seven Jersey short Johnson comes back into the site

540
00:26:05,053 --> 00:26:07,453
Speaker 2: and we see Timighty pick up more work on the

541
00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:10,333
Speaker 2: left hand side, doing the kicking on that left edge.

542
00:26:11,613 --> 00:26:13,773
Speaker 2: It didn't click in the same way, and I've seen

543
00:26:14,013 --> 00:26:16,413
Speaker 2: people going, oh, why did we move to Martin? And

544
00:26:16,453 --> 00:26:19,133
Speaker 2: it was as a winning combination. For me, you've got

545
00:26:19,213 --> 00:26:21,133
Speaker 2: to have Sean back in there. But what are your

546
00:26:21,173 --> 00:26:23,773
Speaker 2: thoughts on what they need to do here? Because for me,

547
00:26:23,933 --> 00:26:25,813
Speaker 2: those two other two best players that you need in

548
00:26:25,893 --> 00:26:28,213
Speaker 2: the halves. It didn't work as well as we thought

549
00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:28,533
Speaker 2: it would.

550
00:26:28,693 --> 00:26:30,493
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's like Tomaty's been driving the bus

551
00:26:30,573 --> 00:26:32,853
Speaker 5: for three weeks and you can't come in and say

552
00:26:32,893 --> 00:26:35,093
Speaker 5: to mate, thanks for all that, but now we need

553
00:26:35,173 --> 00:26:36,773
Speaker 5: you in the back seat. You know, you just and

554
00:26:36,893 --> 00:26:38,973
Speaker 5: Andrew Webs is smart enough to know that he's got

555
00:26:39,053 --> 00:26:42,333
Speaker 5: to keep to Marty involved because he's been doing so well.

556
00:26:42,533 --> 00:26:44,733
Speaker 5: But this, for me is one of Andrew Webs's biggest

557
00:26:44,773 --> 00:26:47,853
Speaker 5: challenges because how does he how does he integrate them

558
00:26:47,893 --> 00:26:50,933
Speaker 5: both now? Because to Marti's a different guy. Like we

559
00:26:51,093 --> 00:26:53,333
Speaker 5: have seen a year and a half of Sean running

560
00:26:53,373 --> 00:26:56,413
Speaker 5: the cutter and everything. Sean, you know, dominating both sides

561
00:26:56,453 --> 00:26:59,533
Speaker 5: of the ruck, taking the ball at first receiver, running

562
00:26:59,573 --> 00:27:02,173
Speaker 5: almost every play, and now they're going to share it.

563
00:27:02,453 --> 00:27:05,013
Speaker 5: And it did look a bit a bit uncomfortable. You know,

564
00:27:05,133 --> 00:27:06,933
Speaker 5: you had Sean further at the back. He had Sean

565
00:27:07,053 --> 00:27:09,173
Speaker 5: was playing a five eight, he'd be he'd getting the

566
00:27:09,213 --> 00:27:11,893
Speaker 5: ball at third receiver. Tomato would be more at first receiver,

567
00:27:12,693 --> 00:27:15,373
Speaker 5: and Sean looked a combination. I don't know what you thought,

568
00:27:15,413 --> 00:27:18,733
Speaker 5: but a combination of rusty and just a bit down

569
00:27:18,773 --> 00:27:20,973
Speaker 5: on confidence. You know, made a couple of mistakes early on.

570
00:27:21,173 --> 00:27:23,773
Speaker 5: So it's a big thing to solve. But I like

571
00:27:23,893 --> 00:27:25,453
Speaker 5: the fact that they're doing it because I think in

572
00:27:25,533 --> 00:27:28,893
Speaker 5: the long run, if you get them both working in tandem,

573
00:27:29,653 --> 00:27:30,733
Speaker 5: other teams are going to hate it.

574
00:27:31,373 --> 00:27:32,533
Speaker 4: Big League Podcast.

575
00:27:32,933 --> 00:27:37,053
Speaker 2: The Warriors next face the Titans on the Gold Coast

576
00:27:37,533 --> 00:27:41,053
Speaker 2: on Saturday. The Titans are bottom of the ladder with

577
00:27:41,213 --> 00:27:45,013
Speaker 2: three wins ten losses. They just lost to the hapless Tigers,

578
00:27:45,333 --> 00:27:48,133
Speaker 2: which ended the tigers nine manch losing streak.

579
00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:51,373
Speaker 4: But need I remind you what happened last time.

580
00:27:51,653 --> 00:27:54,533
Speaker 10: He's got the gas and he's got precisent right there. Oh,

581
00:27:54,653 --> 00:27:58,973
Speaker 10: that's brilliant for the Titans. Stayed and he scores a try.

582
00:27:59,173 --> 00:28:03,373
Speaker 8: Back on the inside David Forfa He's there, just two

583
00:28:03,773 --> 00:28:06,293
Speaker 8: powerful as Kelly gets.

584
00:28:06,133 --> 00:28:08,733
Speaker 10: Through a tackle and offloads and there's.

585
00:28:08,573 --> 00:28:13,653
Speaker 8: Another try cat who's over. It's taken eight rounds for

586
00:28:13,733 --> 00:28:16,413
Speaker 8: them to get over the line and they beat the

587
00:28:16,533 --> 00:28:18,693
Speaker 8: Warrior's hair and on the xact day.

588
00:28:19,813 --> 00:28:21,813
Speaker 4: I can't believe you dug that out. Can I remind

589
00:28:21,813 --> 00:28:24,373
Speaker 4: you what else happened that night? What else? From memory?

590
00:28:25,253 --> 00:28:29,493
Speaker 5: Your TV was a shoe width away from being destroyed

591
00:28:29,853 --> 00:28:33,733
Speaker 5: because you're those I think those fancy Nike trainings you

592
00:28:33,773 --> 00:28:36,253
Speaker 5: were wearing. One of them got thrown towards the teacher.

593
00:28:36,293 --> 00:28:40,653
Speaker 2: I still haven't fix the walls, still a mark just missed.

594
00:28:40,693 --> 00:28:43,533
Speaker 5: So the the sony and the flat is still okay.

595
00:28:44,013 --> 00:28:48,293
Speaker 5: But that that that game, you know, had ramifications all across,

596
00:28:48,773 --> 00:28:52,173
Speaker 5: all across the league scene and also in the household.

597
00:28:52,493 --> 00:28:55,013
Speaker 2: We had a flat inspection a couple of weeks ago.

598
00:28:55,053 --> 00:28:57,573
Speaker 2: We had a broken light and a den in the wall.

599
00:28:57,773 --> 00:28:59,573
Speaker 2: I don't know how we got away with it. We

600
00:28:59,733 --> 00:29:02,013
Speaker 2: just said we moved the couch upstairs, and that's what happened.

601
00:29:02,053 --> 00:29:04,773
Speaker 2: The broken light was that the d was the Titans game.

602
00:29:04,853 --> 00:29:07,573
Speaker 2: Broken light, I'm guessing would be the start to the

603
00:29:07,653 --> 00:29:08,173
Speaker 2: Rooster's game.

604
00:29:08,773 --> 00:29:12,093
Speaker 4: That actually was the couch, but anyway. Titans five. Jaden Campbell.

605
00:29:12,133 --> 00:29:14,373
Speaker 2: He was back to near his beast against the Tigers

606
00:29:14,493 --> 00:29:16,973
Speaker 2: after missing several weeks with a knee injury.

607
00:29:17,773 --> 00:29:20,573
Speaker 4: The Warriors have to win this game. They just have to.

608
00:29:20,733 --> 00:29:24,613
Speaker 2: You cannot be challenging from a premiership and lose two

609
00:29:24,733 --> 00:29:25,693
Speaker 2: games to the Titans.

610
00:29:25,733 --> 00:29:29,653
Speaker 4: They've only won three all year. Birds.

611
00:29:29,733 --> 00:29:32,853
Speaker 2: The question is we've got Roger to e Varsas Ship

612
00:29:33,813 --> 00:29:36,413
Speaker 2: should be back this week. Where do you pot him

613
00:29:36,613 --> 00:29:38,933
Speaker 2: because Pompey has been okay. I know we talked about

614
00:29:38,973 --> 00:29:41,653
Speaker 2: that defense of Howler, but he's been playing on the

615
00:29:41,693 --> 00:29:44,413
Speaker 2: whole really well the last few weeks. Nick Bewley said

616
00:29:44,453 --> 00:29:47,173
Speaker 2: on this podcast last week he'd like to see Roger

617
00:29:47,213 --> 00:29:50,413
Speaker 2: to e Varsaship go into the wing and Marcello drop out.

618
00:29:51,213 --> 00:29:52,013
Speaker 4: I tend to agree.

619
00:29:52,093 --> 00:29:54,213
Speaker 2: I'd quite like to see that because I think the

620
00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:57,333
Speaker 2: Pompy's playing pretty well and Roger didn't show enough at

621
00:29:57,413 --> 00:30:01,373
Speaker 2: center to demand that jersey after weeks out with injury.

622
00:30:01,733 --> 00:30:02,533
Speaker 4: What do you do with them?

623
00:30:03,493 --> 00:30:06,013
Speaker 5: Roger's been out a long time, it seems ages actually,

624
00:30:06,093 --> 00:30:07,813
Speaker 5: so it'd be great to have them back. They need

625
00:30:07,933 --> 00:30:09,773
Speaker 5: this kind of boost, they need him back. I have

626
00:30:09,853 --> 00:30:11,973
Speaker 5: to say that I can see where Nick's coming from,

627
00:30:12,133 --> 00:30:15,333
Speaker 5: because actually Roger was on the wing from memory for

628
00:30:15,373 --> 00:30:17,613
Speaker 5: the rabbit Os game, which won the best all round

629
00:30:17,653 --> 00:30:20,853
Speaker 5: performances of the year. But I'm pretty sure they'll put

630
00:30:20,893 --> 00:30:22,493
Speaker 5: him at center. And I think that's where he needs

631
00:30:22,573 --> 00:30:27,133
Speaker 5: to be. Rockerber be out, so he'll come in. The

632
00:30:27,253 --> 00:30:31,173
Speaker 5: question will be how they juggle it because Pompey and

633
00:30:31,613 --> 00:30:34,053
Speaker 5: two of Usku we've both been playing left center this year,

634
00:30:34,133 --> 00:30:35,653
Speaker 5: so one will have to go to right center.

635
00:30:35,853 --> 00:30:37,653
Speaker 4: I'd quite like Roger at right center.

636
00:30:37,893 --> 00:30:40,493
Speaker 5: He used to He's got that lovely out the back

637
00:30:40,533 --> 00:30:43,373
Speaker 5: offload like Matt Gidley used to do, so when he

638
00:30:43,413 --> 00:30:45,573
Speaker 5: can do that on the right, so I'd quite like

639
00:30:45,693 --> 00:30:46,733
Speaker 5: him at right center.

640
00:30:47,013 --> 00:30:50,013
Speaker 4: And They've got some other options on the wing. But yeah,

641
00:30:50,093 --> 00:30:50,853
Speaker 4: very good that he's back.

642
00:30:51,493 --> 00:30:54,973
Speaker 5: No, I've got no doubt he will be back, and

643
00:30:55,093 --> 00:30:58,613
Speaker 5: they need they need the X factor that he can

644
00:30:58,693 --> 00:31:00,853
Speaker 5: provide because the Titans have got plenty of X factor.

645
00:31:00,973 --> 00:31:04,053
Speaker 5: And we talk about shit, every game is important, every

646
00:31:04,093 --> 00:31:06,293
Speaker 5: game feels like a must win. But yeah, you've got

647
00:31:06,373 --> 00:31:09,893
Speaker 5: to beat these middleweight. Teams can lose to the heavyweight sometimes.

648
00:31:09,933 --> 00:31:13,333
Speaker 5: But you ain't going You ain't going far as you

649
00:31:13,413 --> 00:31:15,413
Speaker 5: say if you do, if you have a double a

650
00:31:15,613 --> 00:31:18,013
Speaker 5: double defeat, double defeats.

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Speaker 4: To the type.

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Speaker 2: You went here last week, but you remember to send

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Speaker 2: in your tips. Funny that, and you you got some

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Speaker 2: tips this week, so well done.

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Speaker 4: You gave me a hiding. I did, and I missed

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Speaker 4: the Thursday night game as well, so I got five

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Speaker 4: out of seven.

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Speaker 5: Well I got that wrong, was right, pretty happy with that.

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Speaker 5: But it was a it was a hard week to tip.

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Speaker 5: There were some upsets, and yeah, I was happy to

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Speaker 5: finally get some.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm I'm proud of myself for having the courage

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Speaker 2: to tip some underdogs because you always just tip the favorites.

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Speaker 5: Well, I like favorites, but no, I actually tipped the Rabbits,

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Speaker 5: who are underdogs against the Broncos, and I tipped the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys to beat the Raiders in Canberra. So yeah, I

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Speaker 5: was quite proud of myself, Nathan.

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Speaker 4: Actually, we're very proud of ourselves. My mother's proud of me.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of pride in the Burger's household right now.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's get on with it.

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Speaker 2: Dolphins Storm Dolphins coming off that upset win as well

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Speaker 2: over the Sharks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, amazing, amazing. I think it's their first winning club

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Speaker 5: history in Sydney. Big for them, and that try from

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Speaker 5: the Hammer was incredible, but of course the Hammer won't

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Speaker 5: be there, along with a few other Origin players, so

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Speaker 5: I will It's actually really hard to tip, but I

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Speaker 5: will lean towards the Storm, although of course the Storm

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Speaker 5: will be missing Harry Grant, who's an incredible player for them,

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Speaker 5: along with a couple of others. But I'll lean towards

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Speaker 5: the Storm on this one, just because they seem to

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Speaker 5: find a way during Origin, even though they traditionally have

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Speaker 5: had players missing.

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Speaker 2: I'm not tipping against the Storm. It's Titans versus the

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Speaker 2: Warriors on the Gold Coast Warriors.

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Speaker 4: For me, not only they have to do it, but

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Speaker 4: I think they will do it.

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Speaker 5: This feels like something that they'll rebound quite quickly because

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Speaker 5: if you step back a bit from the Storm game

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Speaker 5: and the frustration and everything, as we sort of talked about,

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Speaker 5: there was a lot of good stuff there, which sounds

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Speaker 5: crazy when you can see two of it seven tries,

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Speaker 5: but there was a lot of good stuff there. And

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Speaker 5: so if they keep that good stuff and tied up

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Speaker 5: the other stuff, and you know that they should, they

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Speaker 5: should be fine. Roosters bulldogs, yes, bulldogs saying well, aren't

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Speaker 5: they They're right up there in the eighth. They're about

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Speaker 5: they're about and six. But I like the Roosters and

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Speaker 5: they won't be missing as many Origin players as normal.

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Speaker 5: They'll have James Dedesco. Of course, he hasn't made the

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Speaker 5: cut for Origin two, and I think the Rooster's too good.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: The Bulldogs, they've won three in a row and they're

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Speaker 2: coming off the by so they've actually got eight points

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Speaker 2: from the last four weeks. It's in Sydney, though, I

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Speaker 2: thought you were wait, hang on hanging away rabbit Os

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Speaker 2: versus the Seagles, So we just stopped there.

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Speaker 5: You seem to tip both teams there. Can we clarify?

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Speaker 5: Is that allowed now? Or if you're going to tip

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Speaker 5: both teams, that's cool. It could be a way of

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Speaker 5: getting your score up. I'm going to back the Bulldogs

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Speaker 5: to beat the Roosters in Sidney. Rabbits versus the Seagles.

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Speaker 5: Rabbit As are back, aren't they to a agree very

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Speaker 5: good performance against the Broncos, and I think that'll continue

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Speaker 5: against the Seagulls, mainly because I mean the Seagulls coming

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Speaker 5: from coming off a great win against the Dragons.

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Speaker 4: But they'll be without d C.

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Speaker 5: They'll be without Trebroyevich, so that that's that, I'd say

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Speaker 5: is pretty hard for Manley.

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Speaker 4: I'll go with the Rabbits as well. I think they're

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Speaker 4: on the rise.

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Speaker 5: Tigers versus the Raiders huge, I know huge, No, huge,

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Speaker 5: Just don't know at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean the Tigers finally had to win.

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Speaker 5: They'll be they'll be so boosted by that victory at

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Speaker 5: Leichhart and the Raiders were terrible agains to Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear Ricky Stewart after that game? Someone said, oh,

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Speaker 2: you've lost the last three at home? And he was like,

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Speaker 2: you think we're trying to win it home? Thinkure's what

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Speaker 2: we're trying to do.

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Speaker 4: Do you brilliant?

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Speaker 3: Were you?

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Speaker 2: Were you surprised by the fans at half time? I'm

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Speaker 2: not out there with the fans at halftime. Mate, salty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I once talk to one of the camera guys who

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Speaker 5: cover the team regularly and he said, you never know

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Speaker 5: what's around the corner of Ricky Stewart. He's always entertaining

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Speaker 5: in a good and bad way. Having him as the

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Speaker 5: regular coach week by week. I will go for the

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Speaker 5: Raiders to bounce back. There such a hot and cold

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Speaker 5: team and I think they should be too good for

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Speaker 5: the Tigers.

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Speaker 2: Hay corros Al and the Hearts of the Tigers were

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Speaker 2: apparently a master stroke, but I'll go with the Raiders

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Speaker 2: as well. Thank you Michael Burgers for your time, You're wisdom,

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Speaker 2: and thank you for making us a part.

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Speaker 2: The podcast will be back next Monday to digest the

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Speaker 2: Titans game.

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Speaker 4: My name is Nathan Limb. Have a great week.

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