1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: early edition with one roof Make Your Property Search Simple 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Used Talks. It'd be. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: Good morning, you're on news Talks. He'd be just gone 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: six after five. Great to have your company this morning. 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to an independent a Deeal out 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: of Australia as they go to the polls tomorrow. Vincent 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Mcavannie's in the UK for US. Apparently Harod's is under 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: a cyber attack right now. A cyber attack right now. 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: I don't know who from, but somebody who likes nice things. 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: We're also going to talk to our reporters right around 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: the country. Obviously the weather has been affecting the South 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: Island over the weekend over the last twenty four hours, 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: and also the wind in Wellington meth We'll talk to 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: Mike Saber, remember he used to be a National MP, 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: former Detective Mike Saban up north about the myth not 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: just in the wastewater, but what they're seeing coming out 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: of hospitals is truly shocking. All ahead on your Friday morning, 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: the second and May of course, signal gates getting scalps 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: this morning. Reports that Trump's going to fire national security 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: advisor Mike Walls, the Boss was standing behind him as 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: recently as last week. 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: Do you think that Mike. 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: Walt made in the state and doesn't. 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 5: Need to apologize. 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 6: No, I don't think he should apologize. I think he's 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 6: doing his best. It's equipment and technology that's not perfect, 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 6: and probably he won't be using it again. 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Levitt's boasting about the minerals deal that I've done 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: with the Ukraine looks as the one we told you 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: that they would sign yesterday and they did. 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 7: His partnership establishes a fund that will receive fifty percent 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 7: of royalties, license fees, and other similar payments from natural 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 7: resource projects in Ukraine. President Trump has been clear from 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 7: the beginning he wants the killing in this brutal war 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 7: to end. This agreement shows how invested the President is 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 7: and securing a truly. 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: Lasting piece to the UK We go the football association 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: there in England football and have come to Ingham Netbulo, 40 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: I could say, have banned transgender women from competing in 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: their local competitions. 42 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 8: I get a lot of my access to part community 43 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 8: being connected to my local kind of chiety. I've got 44 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 8: friends say to the team that I currently play for 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 8: and that's been taken away very very quickly. 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: Apparently Cricket's going to be doing the same thing later 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: today or tomorrow. BENJAMINETTNYA who declaring a state of emergency 48 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: in Israel and its wildfires causing this. Thousands have been 49 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: evacuated forrests are being threatened along the main Jerusalem Tel 50 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: Aviv Highway and Harrod's as I said, the latest retail 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: victim of cyber attacks. The luxury stores had limited Internet 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 2: access after an attempt to gain access to its systems. 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: More with Vincent mcavenie later in the hour. 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: News and Views You Trust to start your day. It's 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and One Room Make your 56 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: Property Search Simple You Talk Sibby. 57 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 9: Good morning. 58 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: It is nine after five. I noticed that the act 59 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: Party has taken a leaf out of my book. This 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: is about the size of not the size of the cabinet, 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: but the number of portfolios that we have in our cabinet. 62 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: It is outrageous and just so confusing and unnecessary. Anyway, 63 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: I did a piece for the Herald about this back 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: in February, and I basically argued, why is it that 65 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: New Zealand has eighty one portfolios? You look at someone 66 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: like Ireland, similar size population, they've got seventeen. We have 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: eighty one portfolios. In fact, Ireland, Norway, Singapore, Finland they 68 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: all have fewer than twenty. The UK, Canada, United States, Korea, 69 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: they all have fewer than thirty. We have eighty one. 70 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: What on earth is going on here? Australia's population five 71 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: times larger than ours, but even they have almost half 72 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: the number of portfolios the Aussies now, way back in 73 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty five, Prime Minister William Massey presided over a 74 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: cabinet of ten ministers and thirty portfolios. So in that time, 75 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: in the last one hundred years, we've gone from we've 76 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: doubled the size of the cabinet, sure, but we have 77 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: gone from thirty portfolios to eighty one. Too much overlap, 78 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: too much duplication. 79 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: MB. 80 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: For example, if you work at MB and you're listening 81 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: to this this morning, you'll be shaking your head because 82 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: you have to answer to seventeen ministers. Imagine having seventeen bosses. 83 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: No one wants one, let alone seventeen. What a nightmare. 84 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: It's portfolio overload basically, and how useful and effective are 85 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: some of these portfolios anyway. I mean, do we need 86 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: a minister for women? Do we need a minister for 87 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: veterans of fears? Do we need a minister for rural 88 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: e do we need a minister for ethnic communities? The 89 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: problem with these types of identity portfolios is that eventually 90 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: we'll all have one. Take women, for example, no question 91 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: there are disparities between men and women that warrant government attention, 92 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: no question about that. But there are also disparities that 93 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: go the other way. Men get sick more often and 94 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 2: die earlier than women. Four out of five Aucklanders living 95 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: without shelter and Auckland are male. Did you know that 96 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: men are three to five times more likely to die 97 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: by suicide? If we follow the logic of having a 98 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: ministry for women, should we not also have a ministry 99 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 2: for men? Where does the stop? The answer is it 100 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: doesn't and it should never have started. So what do 101 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: you do about it? Here's another example for you before 102 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: I finish. We have four portfolios covering Mardi Issues, Treaty 103 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: of White Tonguey Far No Order, Maldi Development and Maldi 104 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: Crown Relations. We have three portfolios for young people, children, 105 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: child poverty, child poverty, reduction and youth. You know, shouldn't 106 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: veterans affairs sit under defense is family and sexual violence 107 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: not the purview of the police. If Luxon is serious 108 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: about getting his house in order, then he should do 109 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: it and start at the top. 110 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: Brian Bridge here on News Talks. 111 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: You'd be now the PSA has come on to talk 112 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: about this, which I find it slightly unusual because it's 113 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: not really their area of expertise. But if I was 114 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: the PSA, I would come on and I would say, yeah, 115 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: get rid oficent ministers, you know, put the show on 116 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: the other foot, give them the boot and clean their 117 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: house up. Anyway, was hear what further Simon's has got 118 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: to say? Next? 119 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 120 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Bryan Bridge and One Room Make 121 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: your property search simple News Talk sa'd be. 122 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: Quarter past five. Got numbers from GM and McDonald's international 123 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: for you in a second. Right now, Seymour wants to 124 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: clean out cabinet. We've got eighty one portfolios for ministers. Ireland, 125 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: similar sized country to US, has seventeen. Why do we 126 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: need a racing minister, a minister for Auckland, a minister 127 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: for child poverty, reduction flurfit Simon's PSA National secretary with 128 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: me this morning for good morning, good morning. Now, I 129 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: think you're going to agree with Seymour here. I think 130 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: you're going to come on here and you're going to say, actually, 131 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: there's too much double up. It's making life difficult for 132 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: public servants. Cut them back. 133 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 10: Not this morning. I actually just think it's a typical 134 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 10: ACT Party attack on the public service. And really our 135 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 10: populist dog was still not a serious proposal. He himself 136 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 10: recognizes that it's not something that he's actually proposing. He's 137 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 10: really just floating it. 138 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: Be hand on, Helen, Well, how is this an attack 139 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: on the public service When he's saying the line there 140 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: are too many lines of communication, too many reporting lines. 141 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: It's making life harder for the public service to know 142 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: which master they're serving. 143 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 10: He's also saying we should get rid of a whole 144 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 10: range of existing public service agencies. He's very clear about that, 145 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 10: and that's because the X Party don't actually believe in 146 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 10: proper funded public services that deliver for all New Zealanders. 147 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 10: They prefer a privatized model of delivery of public Sitting 148 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 10: behind them. 149 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: Let's look at what he's saying he's saying, we have 150 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: eighty one portfolios for our cabinet of twenty ministers or 151 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: whatever it is. How many do you do you know 152 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: how many? Island has. 153 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 10: A lot less seventeen not saying. 154 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: Do you know how many? Nay has fewer than twenty? 155 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: Finland's the same, The UK and Canada, for good mistakes, 156 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 2: and the US all have fewer than thirty. How does 157 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: this make sense? 158 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 10: Those portfolios are political calls which are up to prime 159 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 10: ministers and leaders, and I'd say it's a bit hypocritical 160 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 10: for David Seymour to be saying he wants to reduce 161 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 10: the Both Times Act the being in government. Recently they've 162 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 10: created agencies, firstly the Productivity Commission and more recently the 163 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 10: Ministry for Regulation. But actually, if we think about this 164 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 10: problems facing New Zealand, do we need to invest more 165 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 10: in public services like health and education, law and order 166 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 10: and defense or do we need to invest less? They 167 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 10: are investing significantly less. On top of job cuts that 168 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 10: they imposed last. 169 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: Year, They're putting more into health. They're putting more into 170 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: health than labor promise to. 171 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 10: They are not putting more into health than previous governments. 172 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: They are not putting more into health than labor promise to. 173 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 10: Everyone puts more. That is not correct. They already cut 174 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 10: jobs and how health already. 175 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: Tell that to a. 176 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 10: Worker that's lost their jobs. That to somebody, I'm not 177 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 10: vacancy feel I'm not saying true. 178 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: So I'm not saying people aren't losing their jobs. Money 179 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: is being reprioritized. You cannot tell me yes it is. 180 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,239 Speaker 2: You cannot tell me that the health. 181 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 10: Budget that people are buying on to fun text cut. 182 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: Okay, tell me what his borrowing. Tell me what flir. 183 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: Tell me what the health budget is, and tell me 184 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: how different it is to what labor promised. 185 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 10: Our health budget has been cut by the skin. 186 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: No, no, tell me tell me how much the health 187 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: budget is and how different it is to what labor promised. 188 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: Because you said that it's different. You said that it's 189 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: lest Okay, I. 190 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 10: Will tell you first of all, if I've impost cuts 191 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 10: on data and digital on all of them. 192 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: I want a number, Flur, I want a number. You can't. 193 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 10: I don't know today, okay, how the problem is, but 194 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 10: I can tell you it's okay. 195 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's going on a hope and a dream where 196 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: we have to leave it there because I'm running out 197 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: of time. But that's first that Simon's from the PSA 198 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: see you next time for eighteen minutes after five News Talks, 199 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: the b. 200 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day Early 201 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: edition with Bryan Bridge and one roof make your Property 202 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: surgent Symbol News Talk. 203 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: It is twenty one minutes after five News Talks. There 204 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 2: be so new charta from Health New Zealand release to 205 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: News Talks. There be patients being discharged from hospital with 206 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: meth as part of their diagnosis has quadrupled in the 207 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: last decade. The amount of the waistwater testing doubled, but 208 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen as well, which is obviously not great. 209 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: Mike saban Form, a detective and drug educator on the 210 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: show Mike Good Morning. Ll Right, where's it all coming from? 211 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 9: The mess? Yeah, Southeast Asia and now South America. 212 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: And then does it go to the five oh one 213 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: gangs and then to Northland. 214 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 9: Well, we've had a triple tripling in the last twelve 215 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 9: months in actual effect, so a fair bit of it 216 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 9: will be. But I think the five ones have had 217 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 9: certainly had a hand to play. I think that's probably 218 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 9: largely where the American South American connections now come in. 219 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 9: But we're a country that has a large empetype for 220 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 9: a drug that we pay a lot more for than 221 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 9: anyone else. So it's not surprising that, you know, the 222 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 9: problem with bad bubbling away for the last twenty five 223 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 9: years is continuing on with a heat esteem. 224 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: Now, are you confident in those wastewater numbers that they 225 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: I mean they're terrible, but are they accurate? 226 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 9: Well, they're much better indicator than probably what we've had before, 227 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 9: But in a place like Northam, for example, there's a 228 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 9: lot of people obviously that are on septic tank, so 229 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 9: it's not picking them up, so it's not entirely accurate. 230 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 9: But if you look across a number of the other 231 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 9: indicators that certainly because they're pretty good indication that usage 232 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 9: is just steadily increasing and now exponentially increasing in recent years. 233 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: So what do you do about it? I mean, we've 234 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: been banging our heads against the wall trying to stop 235 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: us at the border. Clearly we're not stopping it. I 236 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: mean we're doing all we can and we're spending a 237 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: lot of money trying to do it, but it's not working. 238 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 9: What do we do well, I guess The question is 239 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 9: if there's a demand, will always be a supply. It's 240 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 9: like any other commodity. It's just that this particular commodity, 241 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 9: you know, people get addicted to the stuff. They can't 242 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 9: not use it, and so you know, for the suppliers, 243 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 9: it's a really really made customers that just keep buying more. 244 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 9: So demand reduction really is the key. I mean, fundamentally, 245 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 9: you've got to turn the tap off on the supply 246 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 9: because otherwise people are going to keep supplying it, and 247 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 9: we don't really address that, haven't done so for the 248 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 9: twenty five years. We've had the problem largely because our 249 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 9: policy is centered around the notion of harmonimization or problem limitation, 250 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 9: which accepts that use is going to happen and tries 251 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 9: to manage it, which is the wrong way to go 252 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 9: about it. Anywhere that's seen any reductions has really had 253 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 9: a focus on prevention, which we do with tobacco, we 254 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 9: do with you know, diabetes and other health issues. I'm 255 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 9: not sure why drug use we say, well, let's just 256 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 9: try and manage the problem instead of preventing it from 257 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 9: starting an affairs. 258 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: Interesting, Mike, appreciate your time this morning. Mike Sabin Form 259 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: a detective drug educator of course nationally MP as well. 260 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: You're on news Talk ZB twenty four minutes half to five. 261 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: Some thoughts on Weiss and confessions for you actually next 262 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: the early. 263 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: Edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News TALKSB. 264 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: News Talks HEB twenty six minutes after five. All Right, 265 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: it is Friday, and it is Friday confessional time with 266 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: all the pope passing away and focus on Catholicism. I'm 267 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: feeling quite repentant this morning. There are two things I 268 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: predicted would happen last December as I was signing off, 269 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: merely signing off for Christmas here at News TALKSB. One 270 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: of those things hasn't happened, and the other one is 271 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: about to not happen. Yev winning the Canadian election and 272 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: Elbow losing Australia's We all know who's to blame. You 273 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: know who it is, the wild card, the Camick, Carzee, 274 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: the outlaw. It was the Trump bump that did it 275 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: for these guys. Carney, while he's won, will have a 276 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: very tough term in office given the whole rally around 277 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: the Flagpole effect and support of the Canadian sovereignty movement, 278 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: will fizzle out as quickly as just Sinda's COVID election 279 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: high did. The underlying problems Canadians felt before this month 280 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: long lovin' will remain, will persist, and this will surely 281 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: be his high tide mark. But that's no excuse I 282 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: got it wrong, fair cop. And as for Dutton, who's 283 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: now been well looking behind the couch, looking under every 284 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: rock and every nook and cranny he can for something 285 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: relevant to say, he's now beating up on the return 286 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: to country, which during a cost of living crisis people 287 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: want not really to hear about, Thank you very much, 288 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: sort of like when Judith Collins went on the attack 289 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: about fat people and that ill fated twenty twenty election campaign. 290 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: Remember that if you want to lose weight, then eat less. 291 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: Actually not unreasonable thing to say for most people. But 292 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: it's the timing, isn't it. It's the timing in the 293 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: middle of an election campaign. It's the focus on that 294 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: when you should be talking about bigger things. And that 295 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: brings us to the elephant in the White House. Trump. 296 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: While I predicted he would win last November, I think 297 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: most of us underestimated just what America First would mean 298 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: for the rest of the world. When somebody comes first, 299 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: somebody loses, and both Elbow and Karney have been the 300 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: benefactors of that. His power, of course, has swung global 301 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: political pendulums before. Remember his rise and international the rise, 302 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: i should say, an international star power of Jasinda Adern 303 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: that was really born out of an anti Trump backlash 304 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: from his first term. The liberal, young female prime minister 305 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: banning assault weapons and a country post mass shooting becomes 306 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: the darling of the global left, just the tonic for 307 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: those who not only dislike but actually despise Trump and 308 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: his band of Mary Maga supporters. So the political lesson 309 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: is don't underestimate the Trump bump or the Trump dump 310 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: on any foreign election. The question is what does this 311 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: mean for our election next. We're less affected by the 312 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: tariffs unless China implodes. We're not yet being threatened with invasion, 313 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: though don't rule that out. And unlike the Aussies and 314 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: the Canadians, our incumbents aren't bent to the right. So 315 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: the risk of a Trump bump getting chippy over the 316 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: line here if you start singing from Phil Gof's songbook, 317 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: is perhaps more limited, but not nonexistent. When Washington cofts 318 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: somebody gets a cold. How Luxeon and Winston to an 319 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 2: extent navigate the next eighteen months will determine whether it's them. 320 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 4: That catches it. 321 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: Twenty nine after five. 322 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early editions with Ryan 323 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: Bridge and one Roof Make your Property search simple, News 324 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: talk zid be you've taken. 325 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: Me good morning. 326 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: It is twenty four minutes away from six year old. 327 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: News talkszb will get your across the weather in just 328 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: a few moments or with our reporters. Loads of feedback 329 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: to Furfit Simon's from the PSA, Ryan, your guest was outrageous, 330 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: screaming words and false claims like Ginny Anderson. Ryan, the 331 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 2: PSA is part of the problems with the portfolios. Would 332 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: you perform prefer more at the top or more people 333 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: on the front lines? Which is it? It's a good point. 334 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: Another here just says linking the meth story. Should they 335 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: test the bee hive wastewater for me? Right? It is 336 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: twenty four minutes away from six. We'll get to Australia 337 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: on good poll Out of Australia, get to the teal 338 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: candidate with us before top of the hour, Bridge shin 339 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: out to our reporters around the country and calum is 340 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: with US first and Junedin clum the time might soon 341 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: run out for changing at Saint Clair, Espinard and Dunedin. Yeah, 342 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: that's right. 343 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 11: Look, the surf is here in particular won't be too 344 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 11: happy about this news. All day parking space is at 345 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 11: the popular beach front and also nearby roads or remarks 346 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 11: have become time restricted space. This is under a council proposal. 347 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 11: It's all day free parking there at the moment, but 348 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 11: the time restrictions are now being proposed, ranging from five minutes, 349 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 11: two hours and four hours. The council says a lack 350 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 11: of restrictions in the past has limited the amount of 351 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 11: short term parking available for visitors especially. They say changes 352 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 11: aim to increased turnover and availability to help businesses at 353 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 11: the esplanade. Public submissions on this are open until May 354 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 11: twenty third. 355 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: Excellent. How's your weather? Shall is clear to find this afternoon? 356 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 10: Here? 357 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 11: For US South Esterly's the high fourteen. 358 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: Claire Surewood with a state of emergency in place for 359 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: christ Church Banks Peninsula and Selwyn. How is the weather clear? 360 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 12: Good morning, Ryan, Well, most of the actual weather warnings 361 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 12: have been lifted late last night however, we do still 362 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 12: have some in place for the south Island, more near 363 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 12: Kaikoda Way and then of course a lower north But 364 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 12: despite that, we still have rain here in christ Church 365 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 12: this morning. It is a little later, but the remnants 366 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 12: of the bad weather are still well and truly with 367 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 12: us confirming at the moment with Met Service, but it 368 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 12: looks like this rainfall event has been a record breaker 369 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 12: for christ Church. It looks like it's in the top 370 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 12: five wettest days recorded since Met Service records began. We 371 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 12: still have localized flooding. The Avon River is particularly bad, 372 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 12: while councils also keeping a close eye on the Heathkeet River. 373 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 12: The Salwyn River has also been of concern. We've started 374 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 12: to see some slips as well. Three homes evacuated in 375 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 12: Akadowa due to the threat of one last night, while 376 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 12: there was a slip in a street in Littleton. The 377 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 12: residents of one home self evacuated there. We've also had 378 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 12: a request for residents in Old Tai Tapu Road to 379 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 12: begin voluntarily evacuating due to river levels. So for many 380 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 12: others it's sort of more about mop up, but some 381 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 12: concern today as well about the potential contamination of the floodwaters. 382 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 12: Plumbing systems are struggling, and of course the rain's continuing, 383 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 12: but it will start to eat throughout the day. Souther 384 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 12: Lees with it two and a high. 385 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: Twelve stay so clear, maxis and willing to max. Good morning. 386 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 13: The wind for you guys, yeah, exactly, Not so much 387 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 13: the rain but the wind. Thankfully that def Con wind 388 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 13: red wind warning we had yesterday has been downgraded to orange, 389 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 13: but that still means that the wind is very strong today. 390 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 13: It is going to slowly ease, but people should still 391 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 13: be cautious. Steady rain this morning as well. Still some 392 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 13: cancelations at Wellington Airport in and out. The ferries are 393 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 13: still not running this morning. Power is back to most homes, 394 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 13: but there are still some outages, for instance up the 395 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 13: coast in Carpeti Foxton, a few dozen homes in wided 396 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 13: Upper Cape Palliser was badly affected yesterday. Road closures overnight 397 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 13: as well, mostly coastal roads where the worst of the 398 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 13: surface flooding was Unsurprisingly, they're aim to reopen this morning hopefully, 399 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 13: still be careful on the roads around trees, power lines, 400 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 13: debris may still be flying around. Very strong southerly and 401 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 13: check transport as well. Bus replacements are likely on the 402 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 13: hud Valley and wided app rail lines. There was a 403 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 13: track washout near Pittawney Pets as well, to take care 404 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 13: of them. The worst has passed, but caution the key today. 405 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: All right, take care out there, everybody, Max, thank you 406 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 2: for that. Neihvas and Auckland never good morning, good morning. 407 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: The Auckland Council voting on this Western Springs thing and 408 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: the public going to have a say. 409 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 14: Yes now we've got the stormy conditions indoors. So the 410 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 14: Auckland Council it didn't endorse either the Orkan FC back 411 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 14: proposal or the joint effort by Pons and b Rugby 412 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 14: Club and the music promoter c S Records. You know, 413 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 14: like yesterday there was a lot of discussion on whether 414 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 14: the speedway could be revived there as well. So all 415 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 14: three of these options are on the table for consultation. 416 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 14: There was a debate on this motion alone that talk. 417 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: Can you believe it? 418 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 14: Four hours saw two amendments shot down, multiple heated clashes 419 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 14: between the councils everyone. There were a few people yelling 420 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 14: there loud objections support us from both sides, you know 421 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 14: of the Auckland f C proposal and that included Elie 422 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 14: Williams and those who wanted to save the speedway. 423 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: Wayne Brown walked out at one point too. I did yeah, 424 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: all on for young and old, Oh for goodness now. 425 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 14: With her yea we much come and competer the rest 426 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 14: of the country rain no possible thunderstorms, but it will 427 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 14: be fined by the afternoon. Eighteen is a high. 428 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 2: Brilliant Nava, thank you, loving to see your happy Friday. 429 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: It is nineteen minutes away from top of the nineteen 430 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: minutes away from six year on News Talks. Herb next 431 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: Herod's the subject of a cybertech house correspondence. 432 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: Live international correspondence with Insigne Eye Insurance Peace of mind 433 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 434 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: Sixteen away from six news Talks, Heb. Vincent Mecavini a 435 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: UK europe correspondent. Vince and welcome to the program. European 436 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: leaders cautiously welcoming this minerals deal. This is the one 437 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: between the US and Ukraine. 438 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: Good morning, Yeah, this breakthrough through deal between the US 439 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: and Ukraine, which comes after the two leaders, Vladimirzelenski and 440 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 3: President Trump met here in Europe in the Vatican for 441 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: the Pope's funeral on Saturday. This deal has now been 442 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: struck many months in the making, it was meant to 443 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 3: be signed, remember in that disastrous Oval Office meeting. It 444 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: has now been signed, and European leaders are cautiously optimistic 445 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: about it. They think that Ukraine has been able to 446 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 3: negotiate a good deal. Some of the demands that the 447 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: Americans had about repaying all the money that had been 448 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty billion dollars spent trying to help 449 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 3: Ukraine defend itself, that is now gone. There's no hindrance 450 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 3: to Ukraine joining the EU. That was another concern that 451 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: they had, but that still seems fully open. And indeed 452 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 3: there are provisions saying that when they come to joining 453 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 3: the EU things need to be looked at. In this deal. 454 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 3: The Americans are happy to do that, and that the 455 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: profits will be potentially of it will be reinvested in 456 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: Ukraine without anyone who's been cooperating with Russia over the 457 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: past couple of years able to help in any way 458 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: with the reconstruction. So the EU seems pretty happy so 459 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 3: far with what they're seeing. 460 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: What about this lockdown, sorry, the Sir cyber attack that's 461 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 2: hit Herod's in London. 462 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the latest cyber attack on big retailers 463 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: here in Britain. It's taken out Marks and Spencer this week. 464 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 3: The sort of famous co supermarket here. They've been left 465 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: with their website offline, shelves going empty, warehouses shut because 466 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 3: this ransomware attack on their operations, which is costing them 467 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 3: millions of pounds a day. Another supermarket here, the Cooperative, 468 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: They've also been attacked but have managed to fend some 469 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: of it off. And now Harrod's struggling as well. It's 470 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: had to lock down its computer systems because it detected 471 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 3: a similar attack was going on. It seems like its 472 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: operations are still ongoing, but they think that they are 473 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: still under attack. And what's really interesting about this is 474 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 3: that the co Op, one of the supermarkets attacked, has 475 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 3: brought in a new measure where when anyone goes onto 476 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 3: a Zoom or team's call, they have to have their 477 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: cameras on and identify themselves. There's a suspicion amongst the 478 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 3: IT experts here in the UK that hackers have been 479 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 3: able to lurk in the background of Zoom and teams 480 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: calls and find out crucial data and get access into 481 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: the systems that keep these stores going creepy. 482 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: You need a pass code or something, a safe word 483 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 2: when you go on a zoom call. Vincent, thank you 484 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: for that, Vincent mcavenie, our UK europe correspondent. It is 485 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: thirteen away from six Ryan Bridge. So the Aussies going 486 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: to the polls tomorrow. It was close, was close, elbows 487 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: now pulled ahead. Will he lose his majority though? Will 488 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: he need the Greens? Does he need to do some 489 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: kind of deal the Tials? Who know about the Tills? 490 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: A very big movement over there, the founding member Zarlie Steegel, 491 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: she took the seat from Tony Abbtt, remember that who 492 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 2: had it for twenty five years. Azarie's with me this morning, 493 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: Good morning. 494 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 5: Good morning, line. 495 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: So how do you think this is going to play out? 496 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: What chance do the Tills have? Do you think of 497 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: holding the balance of power after this? 498 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 5: Ah, that's a million dollar question. Many journalists go asking, Look, 499 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 5: I think what we can see is in austrange politics, 500 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 5: the confidence in the major parties keeps decreasing. People are 501 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 5: frustrated and over the old you know, politics for power. 502 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 5: They want to see a focus on policy on people 503 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 5: and communities, and so that primary vote keeps dropping for 504 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 5: the major parties, and we're seeing the rise of community 505 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 5: independence you know, sometimes labeled teals, but all around the 506 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 5: country in many, many communities. And I think it's about 507 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 5: thirty five candidates around the country now that have really 508 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 5: decent shots at changing the narratives in those people. 509 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: Who would you be most comfortable dealing with. 510 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 5: Look, I'm not particularly open to a deal per se. 511 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 5: I think I will look obviously the will of the 512 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 5: australand people. I will look at. An essential element for 513 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 5: me is stability, making sure we have good function in government. 514 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 5: The Australian people have very real issues they need dealing 515 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 5: cost of living, climate risk, insurance, you know, our national security, 516 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 5: all these issues need a stable hand. So I think 517 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 5: transition is really important to look for stability, but ultimately 518 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 5: I will tackle the issues as they come and on 519 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 5: their merits. So I have a very clear pitch to 520 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 5: my community around the issues that I will check right 521 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 5: from fiscal discipline and integrity, climate risk, and these are 522 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 5: things that I will continue to look to legislation from 523 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 5: either major party to how we can best progress that Now. 524 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 5: Obviously convention in Parliament has evolved towards this by you know, 525 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 5: polarized system of the two party politics. But our convention 526 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 5: doesn't talk about political parties. It actually talks of a 527 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 5: health of representatives. So the constitution actually allows for a 528 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 5: very different model of politics to evolve. And I think 529 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 5: that's what a mature Australian Parliament can look like, is 530 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 5: actually having more genuine debate and genuinely looking at the 531 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 5: big issues we need to do for the best interest 532 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 5: of austrange people. 533 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: So you don't actually want to do a deal with anyone, 534 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: You don't want to be in a coalition. You don't 535 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: want to do confidence and supplier. You basically want to 536 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: sit on the cross benches and vote by vote. 537 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 5: I will tackle legislation on its merits looking at those issues. Obviously, 538 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 5: the question of supply and confidence will come down to 539 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 5: numbers as a result of the election capacity to pass 540 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 5: legislation from one side or the other. When it comes 541 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 5: to money bills, there's a lot of I guess convention 542 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 5: that is not actually required Constitutionally. A party can go 543 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 5: to the Government General to form government without having a 544 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: signed deal per se. It is just a question of 545 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 5: whether they would be able to survive a no confidence motion. 546 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 5: Now again I would not for me. You know, it's 547 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 5: very important to have stable operating government, and I think 548 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 5: that again will be part of the consideration post the election. 549 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: Just give us a sense of who the teals are. 550 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: You're fysically conservative, but you obviously got a climate leans 551 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: on you. What does your voter base want from you? 552 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 5: Look, I guess we're very representative of our communities, but 553 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 5: what it is is actually communities frustrated with old style politics, 554 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 5: you know, the old school of the major parties slanging 555 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 5: it out against each other, a lot of negative advertising, 556 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 5: always really spreading smear and fear, but very little vision 557 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 5: or positive proposals for our community. So we are not 558 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 5: a party, so we vote very independently of one another. 559 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 5: That we're very aligned on values around merit based policy, 560 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 5: around fact base, around sound and good law, around integrity, equality, 561 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 5: addressing the big issues, having political courage to talk about 562 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 5: the things that are hard to do but that currently 563 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 5: our political system are just kicking the can down the 564 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 5: road and not addressing. 565 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: Can you just make this really clear for key, we's 566 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: listening to this this morning. If it's really tight and 567 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: you've got Labor and the Greens on one side, and 568 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: you've got the Coalition on the other, and neither of 569 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: them can actually govern them without support from some tialsome independence. 570 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: Who do you go with? 571 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 5: Well, again, I don't think that will be the question. 572 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 5: Keeping in mind coalition is already an agreement between the 573 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 5: Liberal Party and the National Time so that is already 574 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 5: a coalition itself. I want to understand the terms of 575 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 5: that agreement. I think there'll be a question of is 576 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 5: there a mandate for change of government or not, depending 577 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 5: on the will of the Australian people. And I will 578 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 5: be guided by the numbers and there are so many 579 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 5: variations of what could be possible. 580 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: But however Australians support more, you would lean. 581 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 5: Towards I would because again that shows a capacity for stability, 582 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 5: which I think is an essense, That is an essential aspect. 583 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: All right, Zali, appreciate you coming on the program. That's 584 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: Zali Stegel. She's the MP for w Ringer. She replaced 585 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: Tony Abbott who had the seat for twenty five years. 586 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: She's a teel and independent. And since that interviewed is 587 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: a u gav bol poll and if you believe the 588 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: polls and certainly that wasn't the case when scomo Surprise 589 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: Surprise one in twenty nineteen. But it has the Coalition 590 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: on track for their worst result in eighty years. Elbow 591 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: actually expanding his majority eighty four seats in the Parliament, 592 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: well above, of course, the seventy six that you need 593 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: the Coalition and drops seventy forty seven seats, a net 594 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: loss of eleven. You're on news Talk, said B seven 595 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: to six. 596 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with 597 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one roof to make your property search simple, 598 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: Youth Talk, said B. 599 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: Five to six. News Talk said B. 600 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 10: A O. 601 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: Britain's factories are in trouble, so the Bank of England's 602 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: going to come in and cut the rates. Next week 603 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: they reckon the slashing begins. So this is for April 604 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: British factory activity, fastest slump in export orders in five years. 605 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: This is the S and P Global Survey of Manufacturers. 606 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: That's not really a surprise. Mike is here with you 607 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: next on your Friday morning. Good morning, Mike morning. You 608 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: gripped by the mushroom case. I gripped ish because I 609 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: think we all know what happened. 610 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 4: See That's what's funny. You should say that because I'm 611 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 4: not gripped by crime in any way, shape or form. 612 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 4: You know how the media fascinates themselves with trials, most trials. 613 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 4: You know what happened, Yeah, don't you. And it's a 614 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 4: very very rare day that to genuine who done it? 615 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: This doesn't as strike me as a who done it 616 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: because we know we know who. 617 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: Just look at the plates, you know, it's got different 618 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: colored plates. I mean, that's a dead give a detail. 619 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 4: Yesterday on the phones she was googling death cap mushrooms. 620 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 4: On the phone tracks her to the death cap mush 621 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 4: I mean. 622 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: And also she doesn't normally have that number of plates 623 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: in the house, correct, somebody was. 624 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: Unusual, didn't have a lot of plates, and she spent 625 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 4: a fortune quote unquote on beef Wellington. 626 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: I mean, look at her. 627 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 4: Her estranged ex husband to dinner or lunch would have been, 628 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 4: whatever the case was. You know, I was just checking 629 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 4: out that. It just seems this is hard to lose. Yeah, 630 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 4: I'm thinking anyway, the David Seymour thing, I suppose if 631 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 4: you don't want to get exercised about, we've got the 632 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: CEO salary thing out this morning, and I don't you're 633 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 4: not on it. I know you're not a CEO, but. 634 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 9: I'm not on it. 635 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: I know what you were, and it's there there with 636 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 4: the big boys. Might up there with the big boys. 637 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: Why anyway? 638 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: More shortly, have a great day to run. See you 639 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: on Monday. Stay safe out there. 640 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 641 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 642 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.