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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts

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Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news.

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Speaker 2: Togs Head been well in Welcome today another sector looking

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Speaker 2: for more people than they have. We've got more success

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Speaker 2: for the government on emergency housing. Got a new idea

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Speaker 2: from the university. He's got a new trend from Hospit

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Speaker 2: got the lads doing the sport in the commentary box

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Speaker 2: after right, Richard Arnold and Murray Olds they are along

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Speaker 2: for the ride. Pasking welcome to the week, seven past

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Speaker 2: six from our trained spot has filed. The Speaker of

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Speaker 2: Parliament Jerry Brownley, made a ruling last week around notes

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Speaker 2: and speeches and laptops. Came out of a speech from

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Speaker 2: the Murray Party MP Tucker to Ferris who was one

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Speaker 2: using a laptop and two turned out to be a

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Speaker 2: shade shady. It started with him in a speech talking

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Speaker 2: and how this sort of behavior wasn't acceptable. At this

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Speaker 2: point Winston Peter's objective being called a liar and indeed

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Speaker 2: all of Parliament's reputation being spirched. Jerry Brownlee says he

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Speaker 2: didn't hear it. Ferris denied saying it until Hansard was consulted,

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Speaker 2: and indeed the inference was most definitely made. He will

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Speaker 2: need to correct his comments now. Perhaps more importantly than

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Speaker 2: that was what came out of it, a frustration of

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Speaker 2: not a sadness from Winston Peter's over the standards of

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Speaker 2: parliaments these days. For I'm relying on computers and speeches,

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Speaker 2: which Brownly, by the way ruled out to the poor

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Speaker 2: do that a lack of presentation and understanding of life's

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Speaker 2: important matters is probably more widely spread these days outside

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Speaker 2: of parliament as well. We've become too often a sloppy

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Speaker 2: country literally and figuratively in that sense. If parliament is

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Speaker 2: but a reflection of the community, then Peter's I suppose,

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Speaker 2: can't be surprised more perhaps disappointed, as indeed am I.

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Speaker 2: And in suggesting that I side with Peter's does that

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Speaker 3: Am I?

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Speaker 2: One of those people who were used to dismiss as

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Speaker 2: being out of touch the world's moved on, who cares

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Speaker 2: a job or a plane or dinner is sloppy, you know,

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Speaker 2: just the way it is ignorant and so widespread. Who

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Speaker 2: cares is a lack of knowledge. A calling card is

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Speaker 2: a collective rebel the new norm? Or does Peters have

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Speaker 2: where we expect more and should do better? Is Peter's

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Speaker 2: in fact on the money, and a good point well

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Speaker 2: made might in fact be an outworking of age, because

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Speaker 2: age allows you to have seen better days.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety second.

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Speaker 2: And war in the Middleast still on a knife edgees

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Speaker 2: the Israelis keep going after Hebela, Israel's president.

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Speaker 4: We kept on being restrained and restrained and restrained.

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Speaker 3: But something has to end.

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Speaker 5: We have to bring our citizens back to their homes.

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Speaker 3: That's the most natural obligation of any.

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Speaker 6: Nation to its citizen.

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Speaker 2: Israel's prime minister.

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Speaker 7: They haven't stopped for a single day attacking us.

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Speaker 1: No country can accept the wanton rocketing of its cities.

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Speaker 3: We can't accept it either.

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Speaker 7: We will take whatever action is necessary.

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Speaker 2: At the Hesbela commander's funeral, he said that they were

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Speaker 3: In no way were they going.

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Speaker 2: And remember this is a group that probably suffered.

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Speaker 8: Its biggest below on almost every level over the past week.

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Speaker 2: And then the Israelis popped into weld Jazira to close

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Speaker 3: This is a decision that was made by one of

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Speaker 2: In Britain, the new government had been having a conference

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Speaker 8: My own family didn't come to that. It was in

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Speaker 8: a work context. I celebrated my actual fortieth birthday with

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Speaker 8: my kids. This was where I got together colleagues, journalists,

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Speaker 2: And in the States they're still trying to work out

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Speaker 9: It's pretty clear that by the end of the year

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Speaker 2: I'm finally. We've got a bloke called eno Alaric who

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Speaker 2: says he has traveled here from the year twenty six

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Speaker 2: like today is the day that the first confirmed alien

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Speaker 2: signal will arrive from a distant soular system. He's also

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Speaker 2: claiming they come here to take us over, and never

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Speaker 2: in a month's time, the sun is going to let

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Speaker 2: out a rare energy that will let you see how

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Speaker 2: you die. And then there was more. In November, we

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Speaker 2: find an alien artifact in Antarctica that releases a deadly

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Speaker 2: virus worldwide. So that is news of the world in

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Speaker 2: ninety seconds back here on Earth. Better news In Sri Lanka,

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Speaker 2: they had a boat two votes out of the week.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it was a presidential election. A guy called Disanaki,

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Speaker 2: who's either a leftist or what some people are calling

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Speaker 2: to get to fifty one percent. They didn't round one,

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Speaker 2: so they head round two. In all of Sri Lanka's

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Speaker 2: eight presidential elections since eighty two, they've seen the winner

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Speaker 2: seventeen million voters. They also said it was the most

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Speaker 2: peaceful in the country's history, comes of course, after the

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Speaker 2: main protagonists of the calamitous state that they currently find

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Speaker 2: themselves and were overthrown and fled the country. So we

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Speaker 2: wish him the very best. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Zippy and not just for Lanka's sort of Macron presented

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Speaker 2: a government. Believe it or not, Barneyer did the job.

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Speaker 2: And what's interesting to follow is that the election produced

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Speaker 2: detmon Fund's management reach with Morning to You Morning. Mike

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Speaker 2: Down's on a tear.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely record high on Friday, so that was good news

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Speaker 10: and helping drive things was Intel. Those years arebout three percent,

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Speaker 10: rumor going around Mike that Quoalcomm's approached the company about

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Speaker 10: And Intel's a chip maker, but unlike in video, hasn't

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Speaker 10: So Intel's been a bit late to THEAYI party. It's

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Speaker 10: up to fifteen billion to Intel. Push here is not

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Speaker 11: So I said they received last week three.

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Speaker 10: Billion dollars to build chips for the US military and

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Speaker 10: They said they're still uncertainly is around the economy, what's

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Speaker 10: this year knows it's pretty cheap over there for a foreigners.

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Speaker 2: You're under this. Totally agree, Mike. We need to hold

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Wayne. No debate, Richard Anne with the detail.

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Speaker 2: New poll numbers out of the States for Your Shortly

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Speaker 13: What enter to you, Mike.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, Mike. So we've got us an aging workforce and

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. So what do we need to do. Do

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Speaker 13: Immigration settings and immigration is a key part of filling

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Speaker 2: Exactly and how much of this is around growth therefore

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Speaker 2: Nice stuff go well with a campaign. Phil Alexander Crawford,

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Speaker 2: from seven paskiing Harris is bringing in money like there

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Speaker 2: Here's some good news for New Zealand. In the country

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Speaker 2: this week is Monumental Energy. They're Canadian. They want to

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 14: Sex forty five International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance,

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Speaker 14: Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: The state side. Richard Arnold, Good Monday morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good Monday morning, so poles are open and people are

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Speaker 2: starting to vote, and the poles it's all on.

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Speaker 4: Oh like an election, sati right, it's out of he

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Speaker 4: gave for three day years. But yeah, the poll show

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Speaker 4: that Kamala Arris is building a little more momentum although

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Speaker 4: the votes but remains within the margin of error. But

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Speaker 4: a new National NBC poll out today has Harris leading

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Speaker 4: Trump by five points forty nine to forty four percent,

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Speaker 4: also giving her the edge and being seen as competent

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Speaker 4: and effective as well as on having the mental and

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Speaker 4: physical capacity to do with a job. Clear reversal from

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Speaker 4: the same polling question by the same polling outfit when

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Speaker 4: Biden will on the card. Other things have Note that

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Speaker 4: gender gap, We've spoken about it before, but it is

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Speaker 4: extraordinary among men, Trump leading by twelve points, Harris leaeds

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Speaker 4: among women by twenty one points. So that is a

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Speaker 4: thirty three point gender gap spread. That is pretty incredible,

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Speaker 4: is it not. Also, Trump is facing big troubles in

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Speaker 4: battleground state North Carolina, where the African American candidate Mark Robinson,

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Speaker 4: running as a Republican for governor, is having some big,

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Speaker 4: big problems. Discussing comments that Robinson is said to have

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Speaker 4: made on a porn site years ago have come to

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Speaker 4: light where he argues that maybe slavery would be a

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Speaker 4: good thing if it was reintroduced. He calls himself a

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Speaker 4: black Nazi quote unquote, and has argued elsewhere that the Americans

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Speaker 4: worth quote evil intent, need killing. Robinson claims he never

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Speaker 4: said some of this stuff. He calls it tabloid trash

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Speaker 4: and says he will not quit the governor's race. But

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Speaker 4: Trump has been hailing this individual.

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Speaker 3: This is Martin Luther King on steroids.

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Speaker 4: Seriously likens him through doctor Martin Junior. Harris campaign just

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Speaker 4: put out an ad on Robinson, Trump and abortion. He's

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Speaker 4: been an unbelievable Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson.

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Speaker 3: For me, there's no compromise on abortion.

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Speaker 14: Abortion in this country. It's about killing the.

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Speaker 11: Child because you aren't responsible enough to keep your skirt down.

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Speaker 4: Gender gap what gender gap?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Trump Deputy Jdvent says the voters will decide.

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Speaker 11: He says, well, the allegations are pretty far out there,

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Speaker 11: of course, but the allegations aren't necessarily reality.

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Speaker 4: Meantime, Kamala Harris accepted in October twenty third date for

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Speaker 4: a second debate with Trump. Donald said no, as you

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Speaker 4: indicate too late to do another. He says, the voting

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Speaker 4: is cast. Says Trump's speculation though, is that they might

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Speaker 4: reconsider that depending on how the VP debate goes in

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Speaker 4: a bit over a week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, last I look, we had full dead seventeen and't

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Speaker 2: you worry we at in Alabama?

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's horrendous, the latest in this gun toting country.

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Speaker 4: Police in Birmingham's ape they're trying to track down multiple

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Speaker 4: shoots responsible for this latest outrage. Eighteen others apart from

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Speaker 4: the four killed three men and a woman now listed

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Speaker 4: as worded, some dealing with life threatening injuries. This happened

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Speaker 4: in front of a popular eating place in part of

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Speaker 4: the city where crowds gather for food, drink, so outings, entertainment.

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Speaker 4: The police say they do not believe this was random.

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Speaker 4: They still didn't have the full accounting, says Birmingham's mayor

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Speaker 4: Randall Woodfin.

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Speaker 3: There's a certain.

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Speaker 9: Element in this community.

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Speaker 11: Or too comfortable riding around.

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Speaker 15: Semi automatic weapons, automatic weapons, conversion switches and everything else cools.

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Speaker 3: Only in ten Hell.

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Speaker 11: Intent is the hard people.

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Speaker 5: Should people kill people?

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Speaker 4: So how's that for? As an ad for the city

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Speaker 4: right exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I happen to see this Friday. It was like

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Speaker 2: he was the only one on the team Attani and

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Speaker 2: what he did is I mean literally, it's never been done.

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Speaker 14: Before, that's right.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are comparing this to say, Roger

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Speaker 4: Banister breaking the four minute mile marker back in nineteen

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Speaker 4: fifty four. The base world is just buzzing over the

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Speaker 4: fact that he has become the first player ever to

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Speaker 4: reach fifty home runs and fifty solid bases in a

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Speaker 4: single season in the Dodgers last game with the Miami Marlins. Now,

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Speaker 4: two of those who let the historic balls slip through

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Speaker 4: their hands as they were watching this so speaking out

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Speaker 4: and you've got to feel for Ryan Wold, who let

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Speaker 4: the ball graze his fingertips, and Max Martyrs, who had

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Speaker 4: the ball in his grip almost then let it slip

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Speaker 4: in the mad scramble it went on. They say that

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Speaker 4: baseball could be worth half a million bucks, folks, maybe

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Speaker 4: a lot more. These two must be having nightmares.

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Speaker 2: About all his butters.

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Speaker 3: There's quote it was really cool, just big there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, keep telling yourself that fella right on, mate, Will

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Speaker 4: you ever get over it?

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Speaker 8: I love it?

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Speaker 2: Good on you mate see Wednesday, appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: The funny thing is they took the base out for posterity.

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Speaker 2: But the problem with basses these days is they've got

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Speaker 2: metal sticks on the bottom, so it's not like just pulling.

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Speaker 2: You know when you and I played as a kid,

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Speaker 2: you just like grab the base and take it home.

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Speaker 2: This has got a big metal So how you frame

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Speaker 2: that up? I've got no idea. Just quickly, by the way,

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Speaker 2: stand by. I'm assuming this week for the Nevada Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court because they went to the district court and they lost,

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Speaker 2: so they've gone to the Supreme Court. This is the

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Speaker 2: Murdock case that no one seems to know what's going

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Speaker 2: on because the media have been banned from the court proceedings,

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Speaker 2: and this is his future and who gets what, where, why,

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Speaker 2: when and how? But a whole bunch of them see

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Speaker 2: and in New York Times, Washington Post, et cetera. They

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Speaker 2: went to court and they said, we need to we

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Speaker 2: need to have a little sneaky pe can find out

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Speaker 2: what's going on. So we'll see what the Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: has to say about that. As I say, presumably later

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Speaker 2: on this week night Away from seven, the.

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Speaker 1: My costume breakfast with Alveda retirement communities use togsdadvs.

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Speaker 2: It was seven away from seven questions for you if

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Speaker 2: you voted for Torri Farnoo? One do you regret it?

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Speaker 11: Two?

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Speaker 2: Are you prepared publicly to put your hand up at all?

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Speaker 3: Ever?

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Speaker 2: And say why? Because, of course last week she said this, I've.

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Speaker 16: Just sold my car recently to help pay the bills,

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Speaker 16: and I walked to work again. My mortgage rates have

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Speaker 16: doubled in the last few years, so I'm feeling the

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Speaker 16: crunch as well.

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Speaker 2: She's feeling the crunch one hundred and ninety thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: a year. So then she decided, for reasons best known

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Speaker 2: to herself, to turn up with Jack tame on Q and.

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Speaker 3: A I Will.

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Speaker 16: What I said was, yes, I've sold my car and

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Speaker 16: made some comments. What I do think is that it's

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Speaker 16: been completely blown out of proportion and a distraction from

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Speaker 16: the real issues facing Wellington City.

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Speaker 2: She actually raised the issue herself, and as I think

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Speaker 2: Jack pointed out in the clip I saw, she raised

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Speaker 2: it three minutes into the next interview, So not really,

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Speaker 2: because part of her excuse was it was now long

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Speaker 2: interview and you get a bit you laid back and

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Speaker 2: call and you know whatever. So three minutes and she

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Speaker 2: was what was she saying on Nick Show?

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Speaker 16: Again, I've just sold my car recently to help pay

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Speaker 16: the bills.

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Speaker 2: So she just sold a car to help pay the bills.

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Speaker 2: But then we got distracted because we didn't because we're

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Speaker 2: into a So just if you voted for it, just

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Speaker 2: let me know why this is. And then having told

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Speaker 2: that she sold a car, then not sold her car,

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Speaker 2: she then I think, told us she sold a car.

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Speaker 1: Did you need to actually sell a car to pay

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Speaker 1: the bills? No?

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Speaker 16: I actually it's a shame because it was taken out

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Speaker 16: of context.

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Speaker 2: Now it wasn't taken out of context, Tory and then

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Speaker 2: her office set afterwards that she did sell a car

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Speaker 2: to pay the bills. So just once again, if you

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Speaker 2: voted for that, just tell us why five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven, Well, the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business favor. Take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next lest.

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Speaker 2: Weankira Farmers Wednesday results day, of course, for the twenty

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Speaker 2: four financial year, milk price is what the farmers are

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Speaker 2: looking forward to. The twenty three twenty four number the

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Speaker 2: season ended May thirty one of course, farmers haven't been

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Speaker 2: fully paid and won't be until the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: But the latest auction, the Dairy Trade auction mid points

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Speaker 2: eight fifty for the milk solids, which at this stage

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Speaker 2: is above what Dairy New Zealand says says is the

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Speaker 2: national break even price of eight dollars and nine. That

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Speaker 2: eight oh nine doesn't include principal repayments, capital investment, all

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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. The other thing farmer is going

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Speaker 2: to be very interested in this week is whether or

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Speaker 2: not Fontira will be looking to sell all of the

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Speaker 2: consumer business that's valued at a bit over three billion.

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Speaker 2: They've been improving in the eye of those who matter

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Speaker 2: most from Tira. From Tira's doing a very good job

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Speaker 2: at the moment, and your survey of its farmer showed

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Speaker 2: sixty five percent of respond and said their performance had lifted,

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Speaker 2: which is up from fifty eight percent last year. No

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Speaker 2: word on whether they sold any cars or cows, or

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Speaker 2: the walk work or anything. Maybe they just got on

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Speaker 2: with a job and that's Miles hurry employee is doing

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Speaker 2: a very good job. What the government seemed to be

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Speaker 2: doing is significant in emergency housing. So a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks ago Tama Potucker comes out and goes numbers down

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Speaker 2: and then everyone goes, oh, they will have gone to

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Speaker 2: a car or whatever. Anyway, he's got more numbers this morning,

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Speaker 2: and they are dropping like flies out of emergency motels

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Speaker 2: and into social housing generally. So the debate will be

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Speaker 2: back on. But it seems when you look at the

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Speaker 2: actual numbers that they are doing very well. Indeed, Tama

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Speaker 2: Potuck as with us after the news which is next,

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Speaker 2: you're a news talk set.

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,

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Speaker 1: like costing breakfast with the Jaguar f phase cut from

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Speaker 1: a different class news togs.

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Speaker 2: Edb we seven past seven could have been the government

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Speaker 2: have at last crack the emergency housing nightmare that's plagued

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Speaker 2: this country for the past handful of years and the

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Speaker 2: nine months since December. The claim this morning is that

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Speaker 2: the number of households and emergency motels has dropped from

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Speaker 2: thirty one hundred to thirteen hundred, which is a saving

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Speaker 2: numerically of half a million dollars a day. At the

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Speaker 2: Associate Housing Minister tomat Potucker's with Us morning got them

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Speaker 2: very well. Indeed, just for clarification's sake, you talk households,

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Speaker 2: Do we know how many actual people we're dealing with?

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Speaker 15: We do know how many actual people, but there is

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Speaker 15: a little bit of a change sometimes Parmo move out,

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Speaker 15: but the children go somewhere else is a little bit

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Speaker 15: of flexibility in that. But I do have the numbers

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Speaker 15: to hand.

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Speaker 2: But it's thousands of people, presumably if you're dealing with

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Speaker 2: a couple of thousand households.

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Speaker 15: Yes, and certainly since December there's been nearly a couple

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Speaker 15: of thousand children come out of emergency households. And since

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Speaker 15: we made the decision around Priority one, of course thousand

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Speaker 15: and three und eleven up to the end of August.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing it?

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Speaker 15: First of all, we're really focused on making sure that

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Speaker 15: those people who go into emergency net hous and have

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Speaker 15: a genuine need bike for a short term stay in

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Speaker 15: temporary accommodation. That's not just turning up and saying I'm

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Speaker 15: ready to go, Please support me to go into emergency housing.

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Speaker 15: It's making sure they've taken the effort to have a

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Speaker 15: look for housing elsewhere and they're following the appropriate responsibilities framework.

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Speaker 2: So you're doing nothing miraculous, because of course, when you

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Speaker 2: made your emissional announcement. A couple of weeks ago, everyone went, well,

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Speaker 2: I've disappeared. Where have they gone? They've all gone on

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Speaker 2: to the footpath or the cars.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, no, that's not fair. That's completely unclear. We know

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Speaker 15: where most people leave in emergency housing. They're going to

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Speaker 15: about eighty percent, nearly eighty percent when we arrived, when

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Speaker 15: you where about fifty percent we're going. But now we've

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Speaker 15: got better data tracking and knowing where people are going to.

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Speaker 15: Generally there are some people and they don't have to

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Speaker 15: tell us where they're going. We don't know nearly twenty percent.

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Speaker 15: You have a decision we make. Mike was surpriortized and

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Speaker 15: to get them out of emergency housing, and that was

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Speaker 15: a decision we made in April, at the end of April.

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Speaker 15: And since then, as I've said, six hundred and forty

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Speaker 15: five to Fino with Tabatiki, two hundred and eleven have

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Speaker 15: gone into social housing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and they will be in social housing for how

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Speaker 2: long we don't know. So essentially the trick you're pulling here,

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Speaker 2: as you're gone from emergency to social there's still under

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Speaker 2: some sort of state care.

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Speaker 15: No, I think that's a little bit unfair with the

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Speaker 15: priority one. That is true might but there's a whole

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Speaker 15: bunch of others that have gone out of emergency housing

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Speaker 15: into private housing. We know that because of the small

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Speaker 15: accommodation supplements that go through the system that support hundreds

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Speaker 15: of thousands of kiwis into private housing. But our real

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Speaker 15: message is mcs take decisions, be accountable, be really clear

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Speaker 15: across government who's responsible for what. And also this is

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Speaker 15: with the Minister of Housing, make sure we start firing

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Speaker 15: up private development of private housing.

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Speaker 2: Again, does this continue, do you think or is this

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Speaker 2: just the initial low hanging fruit where can claim some

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Speaker 2: big numbers.

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Speaker 15: I think it's blue shirts mite I describe it, and

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Speaker 15: there's a risk of people reversing back to transitional or

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Speaker 15: emergency housing. But we've got to take the steps now

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Speaker 15: to reduce the numbers, make sure the eligible criteria, clear

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Speaker 15: decision making around responsibilities, and then we've got to try

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Speaker 15: probably a couple of other things that we're looking at

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Speaker 15: around social outcomes, contracting and trying a little bit a

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Speaker 15: couple of different methods to ensure that not only do

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Speaker 15: people exit emergency housing, but they stay out of emergency housing.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time time at po taker Associate Housing Minister.

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Speaker 2: Ten minutes past Sevensky got a new idea for university.

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Speaker 2: Sir Peter Gluckman, who is the chair of the university's

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Speaker 2: advisory group. He's proposing more collaboration within the sect de

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Speaker 2: sess students could be picking up courses from multiple institutes,

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Speaker 2: apparently all at once. More details are expected, I think

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Speaker 2: by the end of the month. University's New Zealand boss

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Speaker 2: Chris Williams back. Well, this Chris, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 15: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Do this demand driven?

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Speaker 15: Look, it sort of is, but not so much student

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Speaker 15: demand driven. It's more kind of country demand driven. There's

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Speaker 15: a lot of kind of low demand subjects, particularly subjects

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Speaker 15: which are trying to get to scale. They're things that

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Speaker 15: we need for our economy of the future that actually

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Speaker 15: it would make a lot more sense for universities to

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Speaker 15: collaborate on. So you know, we've got subjects like say

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Speaker 15: Earth science, geophysics, there's actually only five students and undergraduate

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Speaker 15: subjects right now across three universities. It would make far

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Speaker 15: more sense for those universities to collaborate.

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Speaker 2: So that's logical. But if it's for the economy of

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Speaker 2: the future and no one wants it. Is that a

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Speaker 2: problem in and of itself.

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Speaker 15: Well, a lot of these subjects are subjects that have

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Speaker 15: to grow, and often the best way to get them

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Speaker 15: to grow is to actually have universities work together in

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Speaker 15: the first place to get them to the kind of

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Speaker 15: scale where they will be successful. So things like artificial intelligence,

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Speaker 15: it takes time and money to get programs stood up.

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Speaker 15: It would make a lot of sense for universities to

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Speaker 15: be collaborating on that infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: Is the ReVibe within the universities they like collaborating or

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Speaker 2: are they are a little bit prestigious to deal with

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Speaker 2: each other.

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Speaker 15: It's a mixed thing. So in kind of Western style universities,

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Speaker 15: they were all set up in the eighties really on

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Speaker 15: competitive lines, So the whole idea should be But like businesses,

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Speaker 15: if you have to compete for students with really relevant

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Speaker 15: degrees good employment outcomes, that's good. So you know you

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Speaker 15: want competition, you want competition for research funding. But actually

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Speaker 15: universities are expensive. Good teaching is expensive, and it does

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Speaker 15: make sense to collaborate on that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Does that count of the argument? You need people back

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Speaker 2: on campus and there's too many people at home in

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Speaker 2: their bedrooms these days. This sort of works against that

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Speaker 2: general thinking, doesn't it.

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Speaker 15: Well, teaching has evolved quite a bit in the last

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Speaker 15: fifteen to twenty years and accelerated thanks to COVID, So

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Speaker 15: there are really kind of two main modes of teaching.

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Speaker 15: There is pure distance, which is properly designed, you know,

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Speaker 15: putting good support around students, and then this kind of

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Speaker 15: how on campus learning has evolved to the point where

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Speaker 15: now actually you can be located near a campus but

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Speaker 15: never actually come onto campus. You can do electors online,

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Speaker 15: you can do your tutorials online, the whole library is

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Speaker 15: available via your laptop. So actually technology makes a whole

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Speaker 15: lot of different modes of collaboration possible.

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Speaker 2: Now, how does this dubtail in with why Papa Tom

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Speaker 2: Marta rah at Auckland University, where suddenly universities are telling

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Speaker 2: you what you need to learn.

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Speaker 15: Well, that's always something that universities have to consider. Every

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Speaker 15: university has a graduate profile, So these are the sort

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Speaker 15: of things that they know that when they listen to

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Speaker 15: their employers and their communities, the things that they are

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Speaker 15: looking for from graduates. So every university is always looking

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Speaker 15: to make sure that in their main degree programs that

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Speaker 15: they are able to develop those kind of skills and competencies.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Chris, appreciate it, and then

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Speaker 2: notice how diplomatic that got Chris Wheeland from Universities New

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Speaker 2: Zealand thirteen minutes past seven, ask my Tory fanes and

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Speaker 2: absolute bloody joke as as well into city council. The

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Speaker 2: incompetence is palpable. You can't make the stuff up. No, Tony,

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Speaker 2: I've decided you count either. I mean what I heard

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Speaker 2: over the weekend from her, you literally cannot make up Mike. Mike,

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Speaker 2: she needs to do a budgeting course, probably, Mike. Some

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Speaker 2: of us saw through Tory amazing how many intelligent people didn't, Mike.

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Speaker 2: The trouble is not enough people actually voted. That in

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Speaker 2: itself is probably the crux of the problem.

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Speaker 1: Mike.

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Speaker 2: Here is the answer to your question. Most who voted

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Speaker 2: for her are a gender driven so it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: to them what she does. She can straight up and

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Speaker 2: down lie. They won't blink. Only the swing voters may

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Speaker 2: admit they were wrong. Mike, I voted for Tory. There

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Speaker 2: was a TV panel candidate's debate pre the election. Paul

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Speaker 2: Eagle and Andy Foster were squabbling with each other like children.

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Speaker 2: Tory maintained a dignified silence. So yes, I did opt

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Speaker 2: for the new broom. Chris. I admire your fortitude and honesty,

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Speaker 2: if not your political acumen. Fifteen past seven.

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Speaker 2: and all the other madness around it. Anyway, that's still

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Speaker 2: to come. Seventeen past seven not good news. I'm afraid

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand incur influences. The nations on the decline

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Speaker 2: comes from the Lowy Institute. They're out of Australia, of course.

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Speaker 2: They released their annual Asia Power Index. We're one of

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Speaker 2: only three countries to go backwards. The other two are

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Speaker 2: Russia and Me and mass who are an excellent company.

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Speaker 2: A traceable drop in diplomacy since twenty eighteen. I wonder

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Speaker 2: who that would have been traceable drop in diplomacy twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Who was running the place. Lowey Institute Southeast Asia Program

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Speaker 2: Director Susanna Patterns with us. Susanna, good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: So China beats out the Americans and the Asia Pacific

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Speaker 2: militarily for the first time. How are these things actually measured?

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Speaker 17: So we have more than one hundred and thirty indicators

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Speaker 17: that go into our index. So in terms of military capability,

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Speaker 17: for example, we're looking at both the size of the

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Speaker 17: armed forces, the equipment inventories, and then also measures that

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Speaker 17: we take from an expert survey where we ask people, Okay,

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Speaker 17: so a country has this many tanks, but how well

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Speaker 17: prepared are they actually to go to war? So that's

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Speaker 17: one measure, and then we also look at a whole

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Speaker 17: range of other things, including the size of the economy,

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Speaker 17: economic relationships, and diplomacy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, when we look at the top five countries, the States, China,

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Speaker 2: Into and Japan and Australia. Is Australia helped by August.

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Speaker 17: Not yet actually because August hasn't really delivered much yet,

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Speaker 17: so that's yet to show through in our data. Definitely,

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Speaker 17: participation in the Alliance network and defense networks is a

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Speaker 17: phenomenon that we've seen over the last five years that

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Speaker 17: the US has been doing a lot more, especially with Japan,

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Speaker 17: actually even more so than with Australia. So we see

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Speaker 17: that in the data that we collect about, for example,

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Speaker 17: combined military exercises.

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Speaker 2: And is Japan seen as increasingly proactive in the region.

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Speaker 17: Yes. So Japan is really interesting because overall, actually we

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Speaker 17: would say that Japan is in relative decline because it

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Speaker 17: has an aging society, but we do see that Japan

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Speaker 17: is playing a much more active role when it comes

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Speaker 17: to defense and security relationships, especially with countries in Southeast Asia.

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Speaker 2: Take China, take out the military aspect of China. Are

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Speaker 2: they waning or increasing?

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Speaker 17: We describe China's power as plateauing, and that's what we've

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Speaker 17: seen over the last five years. But the US still

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Speaker 17: remains ahead of China. And I think many people would

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Speaker 17: have expected that year on year China would be making steady,

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Speaker 17: steady games to overtake the US, but actually that hasn't happened,

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Speaker 17: and the US remains about ten percent more powerful than China.

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Speaker 17: And that's due to a few different factors, including the

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Speaker 17: fact that the US economy is pretty strong, whereas China

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Speaker 17: faces a lot of long term challenges there.

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Speaker 2: Great insights do is then appreciated very much. Susanna Patann

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Speaker 2: whatever you buy from about health it is backed where

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Speaker 2: a money back guarantee. You can ask for more. Oh

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Speaker 2: eight hundred triple nine three h nine sc on Teptally four.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited by the prospect of a vote. With my

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Speaker 2: vote next election. Potentially the suggesting comes from the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 2: We could be asked whether we want a four year term?

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Speaker 3: Do we?

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Speaker 2: Now there's a debate. Firstly, we need to work out

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Speaker 2: whether the Prime Minister is actually going to deliberate or

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Speaker 2: whether in this Q and A session last week in

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Speaker 2: Front of Business he was merely amusing. So is there

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Speaker 2: a vote in twenty twenty six or not? And if

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Speaker 2: there is, is it binding? And when or if there

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Speaker 2: is a change voted? Four is the first four year term?

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Speaker 2: Could I suggest if we're having a vote, we vote

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Speaker 2: for one the status quo, two a four year term

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Speaker 2: or three a five year term. So if you're going

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Speaker 2: to the people, why not explore all your options? So,

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Speaker 2: assuming there is a vote, which way would you go? Personally?

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Speaker 2: I know my answer and the answer is I don't

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Speaker 2: have an answer. This is one of those areas where

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Speaker 2: there is no right or wrong both can work, both

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Speaker 2: can fail. It's an MMP type debate. There are failings

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Speaker 2: in them. Men list MPs like Darlene Tanna surely are

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Speaker 2: arguments for first past the post. The slap dash, amateurish

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Speaker 2: nature of so much of the political scene these days,

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Speaker 2: perpetrated by radicals and single issue crazies, is a good

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Speaker 2: argument for first past the post. But MMP has given

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Speaker 2: us diversity and gender and race and age. It is

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Speaker 2: a spectacularly diverse parliament these days, and you would argue

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Speaker 2: MMP is what gave us that. Anyway, off the back

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Speaker 2: of the Labour government of twenty seventeen through twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: and particularly twenty twenty through twenty twenty three, surely the

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Speaker 2: shorter the better is the answer. Imagine if they'd carried

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Speaker 2: on their carnage this year, given their term, think about

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Speaker 2: what it would have been twenty twenty through twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: How could you possibly vote for more of that? But

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Speaker 2: good government and this current combination might just prove to

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Speaker 2: be an example of that. Would need and want as

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Speaker 2: much time as possible to write the ship and get

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Speaker 2: us back to some sort of semblance of what we

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Speaker 2: once were. See Either way, you can see good and

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Speaker 2: not so good. That's what makes this one one of

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Speaker 2: your better debates. Ask by Time a clear precise over

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Speaker 2: his portfolio, or take that any day, Mike. Another minister

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Speaker 2: who's got the figures knows this job, doesn't. Fudge speaks

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Speaker 2: clearly and doesn't say I can't tell you. Mike. I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of laughing at how Chippy is rushed off to

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Speaker 2: the British Labor Party's conference when they're in meltdown, Mike.

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Speaker 2: When the Wellington meryal election only had three candidates, what

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Speaker 2: can you expect now, that's excuse making. I don't accept

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Speaker 2: that the candidates are the candidates. Maybe it's because you

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Speaker 2: don't vote. I get that, but I think the lethargy

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Speaker 2: involved in local body politics has been well documented for many, many,

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Speaker 2: many many years. It's like all those people who said, ah,

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Speaker 2: I voted Green to keep Labor out or I voted

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Speaker 2: Labor to keep the Greens out in twenty twenty. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you can't make stuff up like that. You can't second

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Speaker 2: guest democracy, Mike. People voted for Farna due to a

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Speaker 2: lack of good candidates, and so it goes. Everyone's got

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Speaker 2: an excuse, which does, of course bring us very neatly,

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Speaker 2: and we didn't because of Tory. We didn't get coverage

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Speaker 2: on the other Green comedy of the weekend, which was

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Speaker 2: of course the Green Party, because poor old Darlene lost

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Speaker 2: her case, surprising no one on Friday. Looking for a

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Speaker 2: judicial review, she didn't get one. So what now? Well

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Speaker 2: let me quote you, Chloe, Chloe, I am all over this.

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Speaker 2: We will take the appropriate time to take advice and

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Speaker 2: consider next steps. We will have more to say in

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Speaker 2: due course. Could you take longer to do nothing beautiful

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Speaker 2: without setting our record?

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast show you can trust, the mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 2: Tog saidb my Green Party real quick to ban oil

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Speaker 2: and gas exploration. Well were they? I mean they agreed

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Speaker 2: with it, but they weren't really in government when that happened.

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Speaker 2: Were they with not a jot of a care about

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Speaker 2: medium to long term ramifications that are now showing up,

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Speaker 2: but hopeless at doing the obvious? With a reclcitrant member Mike,

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Speaker 2: how if the people at Voter for Tory didn't understand

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Speaker 2: the STV voting system, didn't want it. That is probably

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Speaker 2: your best argument so far and an argument against STB.

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Speaker 2: But but as far as Darlene's concerned in the court case,

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Speaker 2: I cannot understand why clothes busy going. We will take

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Speaker 2: the appropriate time to take advice and consider next steps.

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Speaker 2: Next steps were a meeting. They had a meeting all

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Speaker 2: set to go until they pulled the meeting so they

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Speaker 2: could go to court. Given they've gone to court in Won,

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't the next step be an obvious meeting so

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Speaker 2: they can get on with us, unless, of course, as

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Speaker 2: I suggested weeks ago now, they actually don't want to

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Speaker 2: get on with it. Twenty three to eight lot a

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Speaker 2: talk in the sports world about the rugby Liam Wilson

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Speaker 2: to be confirmed in the next couple of days, which

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Speaker 2: is exciting of course, So were that another match for

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Speaker 2: you with the lads up tow eight o'clock. Meantime, advice

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Speaker 2: to the government to run child poverty reduction has been

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Speaker 2: made public. So the target set by the previous labor government,

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Speaker 2: it turns out, according to Treasury, is no longer quote unquote,

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Speaker 2: no longer realistically achievable. They ask to make the bill

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Speaker 2: to be three billion dollars. The child poverty Reduction Minister

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Speaker 2: Louis Upston is with us on this is a very

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 11: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: It was a thought bubble, wasn't it of miss A

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Speaker 2: Dern at the time, and nothing really material who was

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Speaker 2: achieved despite the fact she wanted it to be. Isn't

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Speaker 2: that the cold hard truth about it?

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Speaker 18: Well, the reality is they threw lots of money at

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Speaker 18: it and the number of children in material hardship went

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Speaker 18: up four one hundred extra children living in material hardship

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Speaker 18: six years of labor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when Mendes March is quoted this morning is saying

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Speaker 2: it's a choice and all you have to do is

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Speaker 2: write a check, he's wrong as well, isn't he.

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Speaker 18: Well, the reality is we know that children do best

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Speaker 18: when the economy is going well, when they've got parents

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Speaker 18: and work, they're attending school, and they've got great opportunities

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Speaker 18: ahead of them. That's why we're taking practical steps to

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Speaker 18: grow the economy, deal with the cost of living crisis,

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Speaker 18: like providing tax relief and making sure kids are at school.

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Speaker 18: Those are the things that actually make a difference in

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Speaker 18: child poverty, and that's what we're focusing on.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any sense of if your prescription is

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Speaker 2: right when that manifests itself in tangible outcomes that we

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Speaker 2: can see in a positive direction.

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Speaker 18: Well, we know for children there is a lag, but

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Speaker 18: we are absolutely focused on the things that make a

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Speaker 18: difference for me, for example, making sure we've got more

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Speaker 18: households and work. We don't know that we're in a recession,

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Speaker 18: so unemployment is higher than we'd like, but that is

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Speaker 18: a direct result of the wasteful spending that the previous

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Speaker 18: government made. Though we've got a few challenging months ahead,

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Speaker 18: but it will come right.

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Speaker 2: The three billion dollars, does anyone know whether that's real

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Speaker 2: or is that just a guess? Even if you did

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Speaker 2: want to spend the money, and if you did think

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Speaker 2: that by spending the money it would make any material difference.

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Speaker 18: Well, that's the figure that Treasury have come up with

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Speaker 18: to reach the target.

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Speaker 2: How do they with those numbers? So they guess they've

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Speaker 2: got a dart board? Is there something more sophisticated than that.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're always seen big round numbers, don't they.

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Speaker 18: Well, it were doing more of what Labour wanted to do,

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Speaker 18: including lifting welfare payments, transfers and a range of other measures,

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Speaker 18: but the reality is the child poverty numbers would get worse.

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Speaker 18: Labour's approach wasn't working. That's why we're going to do

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Speaker 18: something different from what they were doing. And we know

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Speaker 18: that the economy, having a growing economy is the best

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Speaker 18: opportunity for us to lift children and families out of hardship.

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Speaker 2: If you do grow the economy, get down to the

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Speaker 2: crunchy stuff, which is the people who don't want to

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Speaker 2: participate in a growing economy to better themselves, and it's

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Speaker 2: the children who are the unwitting victims of that attitude.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, and that's that's always a challenge, but that's why

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Speaker 18: what we are doing at the moment is making the

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Speaker 18: welfare system far more active, so it is more difficult

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Speaker 18: for people to choose not to participate. As we know,

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Speaker 18: under national there's rights and responsibilities and while the welfare

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Speaker 18: system is there to support you in your time of

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Speaker 18: need and your children, actually there's some expectations that you

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Speaker 18: take steps that you need to take yourself, and presumably

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Speaker 18: we will hold people accountable for that.

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Speaker 2: Sure presumably ties and we had Tama Potucker on earlier

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Speaker 2: on this morning, and this presumably ties in with the

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Speaker 2: emergency housing numbers which have gone from emergency motels into

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Speaker 2: social housing that in and of itself help some kids out.

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Speaker 18: I'm assuming yeah, absolutely, So we want to see more

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Speaker 18: children at school. We want to see housing more affordable.

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Speaker 18: When families have stable housing, it makes it easier for

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Speaker 18: them to be attending school regularly, and in by attending school,

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Speaker 18: we want kids to do well and that's why we've

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Speaker 18: also an achievement targets. Those are the sorts of practical

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Speaker 18: things that's our children up for a great future and

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Speaker 18: that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Appreciate it very much. Louis Upston, who's the

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Speaker 2: child poverty Reduction Minister. Ninety minutes away from seven Lasking,

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Speaker 2: the government announced, I think it must have been Friday

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Speaker 2: that they're going to split the They're going to ax

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Speaker 2: the RIMA and they're going to replace it with two laws.

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Speaker 2: This is dry, convoluted stuff and eventually it will come

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Speaker 2: to pass. But they're going to narrow the scope of

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Speaker 2: the resource management system to focus on managing actual effects

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Speaker 2: on the environment. They're going to strengthen and clarify the

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Speaker 2: role of environmental limit and how they're to be developed,

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Speaker 2: which is good They're going to provide for greater use

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Speaker 2: of national standards to reduce the need for resource consents

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Speaker 2: and simplify council plans. That's particularly good because that what

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Speaker 2: that means is you're not dealing with these little fifdoms

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Speaker 2: that make up their own rules locally that make no

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Speaker 2: particular sense. They're going to have a one stop sort

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Speaker 2: of shop right around the country. Because we're not exactly

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Speaker 2: a massive country. They're going to shift the focus away

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Speaker 2: from the consenting before activities can get underway towards compliance.

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Speaker 2: That's good. They're going to realize efficiencies by requiring one

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Speaker 2: regulatory plan per region. BINGO going to provide for a rapid,

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Speaker 2: low cost resolution dispute system. Good. And they're going to

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Speaker 2: provide faster and cheaper processes with less reliance on litigation.

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Speaker 2: If they can do all of that, we might might

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Speaker 2: be on our way. Seventeen to two.

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Speaker 2: That be Seeing Away from It by Davidson is the

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Speaker 2: the seven. The January vay well done, Congratulations, will be

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Speaker 2: your life. Restaurant Association report for Q two this morning,

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Speaker 2: What are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: Are we up? All we down?

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Speaker 2: Can I be slightly provocative and suggest to you that

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Speaker 2: if you run a good restaurant, come cafe, you're doing okay.

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00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: If you run a fairly ordinary one, then you're probably not.

1087
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: And then you're one of those people, And that the

1088
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: Restaurant Association, by and large, of all the industry groups

1089
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: in this country, are probably one of the bigger winges

1090
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: about the place. They seem to be permanently miserable. And

1091
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: yet when you look at some of the numbers, and

1092
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: you certainly take some anecdotal evidence, and the places I

1093
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: wander around and anecdotally see are booming, not just doing well,

1094
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: but booming. It can be done if you do it well.

1095
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: Annual sales fifteen point seven billion for the year ending

1096
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: March twenty four. Is that good? Well, it's a five

1097
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: point eight percent increase. That's not bad. Can't argue with that.

1098
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: Auckland's down zero point seven. Now is Auckland down zero

1099
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: point seven? Why is it because Auckland's not going well?

1100
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: Or is it because there are many more outlets. Therefore

1101
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: the spread around the individual outlet isn't what it was,

1102
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: don't know. Seventy six percent reported worse or significantly worse profitability.

1103
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: Now in that's the key. So in other words, the

1104
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: speend might be up, but the profitability might be down.

1105
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: So in other words, you're paying more for your goods.

1106
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: You can't pass the price onto the customers. So yes,

1107
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: you're still you know, making money. Yes you're still busy,

1108
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: but you're not making as much money as you were.

1109
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: Takeaway sector, and this is the other thing. This is

1110
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: your classic working from home thing. So for example, if

1111
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: you're a downtown cafe and people are working from home,

1112
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: Wellington being a very good example, you're struggling because no

1113
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: one's downtown anymore, but in the suburbs they are, so

1114
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: you'll be doing well. So we've seen a change here

1115
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 2: the retail the takeaway sector is up four point two percent.

1116
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: That's good. Why well, because you won't be going to

1117
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 2: arrestaurant anymore. You might be going and buying a burger.

1118
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: So one person loses, another one wins. Twenty four percent

1119
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: of respondents stating income is on pars or a quarter

1120
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: on par or above the previous year, neighborhood eateries with

1121
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: a strong local connection of finding success by building loyal

1122
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: customer bases. That's what I'm experiencing. That's what I'm seeing.

1123
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: People who are good, are known to be good, will

1124
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: do fine. But if you just think you can open

1125
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: something up, make bad coffee and offer up a stale

1126
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: scone for six dollars fifty, you're wasting your time. Then

1127
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: we come to the lawyers, who are all miserable. Eight

1128
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: hundred lawyers and law students over three years have been

1129
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: followed by a guy called Aaron doctor Aaron Jardin, Associate Professor,

1130
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: University of Melbourne Center for Well Being Science. Our fifteen

1131
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 2: thousand lawyers are enduring a silent crisis. Apparently, lawyers are

1132
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: suffering high stress, high risk environments. Twenty three percent of

1133
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: lawyers report their organizations do not foster a positive workplace culture.

1134
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: Everyone's miserable, aren't they. I mean really, I mean you

1135
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: go to any workplace in my experience, if you go

1136
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: to any workplace ever and go hey, how about it,

1137
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: and they go they want a slushy machine, then when

1138
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 2: they get.

1139
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 19: A slush we're all giggling away, aren't we.

1140
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 15: Here.

1141
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: No, No, that just me.

1142
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: It's just you are as upbeat as this place gets.

1143
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1144
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: Critical gap and proactive services that enhance well being before

1145
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: challenges arrive. So, in other words, they don't see the

1146
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: problems before they rise. I'm happy, though, mind you. I'm

1147
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: I'm contained in a studio hermetically sealed from everyone else. Yeah,

1148
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: that's how you like it, That's exactly how I like it.

1149
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: Ten minutes away from it, the.

1150
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking breakfast with the Jaguar FBA used talks envy.

1151
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: But seven away from it, you trend in hospital speaking,

1152
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 2: which kegs of cocktails ready for this? Kegs of cocktails?

1153
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: Mass batches of Martiniz Margarita's and Mehitos. Normal Taps co

1154
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: owner Luke Jones is with us on this look very

1155
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: good morning to you morning, Mike.

1156
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: Are you going very well?

1157
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: Indeed, excuse my ignorance. Do you retail or wholesale or both?

1158
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 6: We're actually both. So we have a bar Normal Tats

1159
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 6: and the Citywork's Depo and we've just started about three

1160
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 6: months ago selling wholesale.

1161
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: And do you whole side? Do you make the kegs yourself?

1162
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: In other words, Do you do that and then sell

1163
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: them out or do you bring them in from somewhere?

1164
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1165
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 6: No, No, we make them ourselves. So we started just

1166
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 6: making them just for our bar, and then the demand

1167
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 6: sort of picked up. People caught on to what we're doing,

1168
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 6: and now we make them in larger scale formats and

1169
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 6: sell them out two other bars across.

1170
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: How does the cocktail come out? Does it come out

1171
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: of a hose?

1172
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 6: It comes out, you mean, like through like a tat,

1173
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 6: like a tap.

1174
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 2: You pull it, you pull a trigger, and out comes

1175
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: the drink like a beer.

1176
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, essentially, Yeah, essentially, it's it's like a beer, although

1177
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 6: some of them are probably easier to pour than beers

1178
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 6: because you just you basically just turn the tap, comes

1179
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 6: out and then.

1180
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: Turn it off.

1181
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: Okay, And and do they taste any good?

1182
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 11: Well?

1183
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 6: I hope so, because we've got a bar about it,

1184
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 6: and we've got a wholesale business. But we've we've been lucky,

1185
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 6: so we've done a lot of real time feedback with

1186
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 6: customers at our bar, so we've been able to iterate

1187
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 6: on our products across the last sort of eight nine

1188
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 6: months to a stage where we're super happy with them,

1189
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 6: and yeah, they taste. They taste pretty good.

1190
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: And they got shelf life issues in any way, shape

1191
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: or form though.

1192
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 6: No no, So so they're all able to be kept

1193
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 6: in cakes from around sort of three to six months

1194
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 6: if they're chilled after being tapped. So yeah, that whole

1195
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 6: wastage is an issue with cocktails. It's sort of the

1196
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 6: same as bears on tap all.

1197
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: What happened to the vibe? You know, when you go

1198
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: in and you somebody shakes it up and you know

1199
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: there's some lovely glasses and a lovely ice cube and

1200
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: a little slice of lemon, and you know what I mean?

1201
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: Then what happened to that suddenly you're just ordering up there?

1202
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 20: It is?

1203
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I.

1204
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 6: Guess it's just a different experience really. So what we

1205
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 6: do is we just do the the kind of standard cocktails,

1206
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 6: so the ones that bartenders don't often want to make.

1207
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 6: You know, maybe ten spress of martinis in a row

1208
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 6: can be a little bit frustrating for for a bartender

1209
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 6: and also for the customer on the other end, waiting,

1210
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 6: you know, sort of fifteen minutes for their tennis press

1211
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 6: of martinis, whereas we can see them.

1212
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: In could I blind the only the only drink I

1213
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: don't drink spirits. The only one i'm i'm is a

1214
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: French martini. Could I blind taste of French martini against

1215
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: yours if you poured one out of a tap?

1216
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we don't actually do one, but we

1217
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 6: could do one and you wouldn't be able to tell

1218
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 6: the differences.

1219
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I use fresh pineapple juice

1220
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: and you can't because you're in a key.

1221
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 20: Well, well, we do.

1222
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 6: We do use it's so it's pressurized, So we do

1223
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 6: use fresh pineapple juice. We use fresh, fresh ingredients for everything,

1224
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 6: and there's there's things that we use to sort of

1225
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 6: stabilize it as well so it lasts longer. But yeah,

1226
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 6: all our ingredients are fresh.

1227
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 20: At the moment.

1228
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: Okay, do you charge less because it's more convenient for

1229
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: you as the retailer or no, we do.

1230
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 6: I mean all of our cocktails in the city are

1231
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 6: up for twenty dollars, whereas if you go to other

1232
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 6: bars that probably range from around twenty three.

1233
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: To Sammy, who's my producer who drinks a lot, he

1234
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: says twenty is a good price, so you're obviously on

1235
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: the right.

1236
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, we have happy hour as well, so here

1237
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 6: around the city between three and six. They're fifteen dollars.

1238
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: Fifteen dollars at three in the afternoon, what can possibly

1239
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: go wrong?

1240
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 11: Look?

1241
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely good luck with that nice idea. Luke Jones,

1242
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 2: who's with normal taps, cocktails and a cay.

1243
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 19: Can you never ever say, ever again that you don't

1244
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 19: drink spirits but you do occasionally have a French MATEI.

1245
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: Just occasionally they don't want to come in your room.

1246
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to come across as a heavy drinker.

1247
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: That's all I'm just It's reputation. News is next.

1248
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: Big news, Bold opinions, The mic Hosking Breakfast with our

1249
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: Vita Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News talk said b

1250
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: sp rooms.

1251
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 21: Do wrong, No pretty who says next or not? We

1252
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 21: scored nine tries tonight. We've come to McClay Park and

1253
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 21: we have dethrown the makepie big sired Aufland. They take

1254
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 21: the victory by forty seven points to twenty three.

1255
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 11: Auckland.

1256
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 21: They win it, and they win it by twenty seven

1257
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 21: points to nineteen.

1258
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 7: Tasman with the victory another last minute who went for

1259
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 7: the mark on?

1260
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 11: The All Blacks hang on to win the match. The

1261
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 11: All Blacks hang on to the blad Islam.

1262
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 5: The rugby Championship will be decided in nol Spry next weekend.

1263
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 5: It's an historic victory for Argentina.

1264
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary Box on the mic asking breakfast

1265
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with asset and equipment finance.

1266
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: I have eld S andrews Herbil both well us fellows.

1267
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good morning morning, Mike. I notice

1268
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: very kind of you to get up early in the

1269
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: morning all day. You just back from your morning run

1270
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: sad or you're gonna bounce into that at about eight thirty.

1271
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 11: Well, excuse me. I'm motivated to get out on a

1272
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 11: bat mite because it's light here at about five thirty

1273
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 11: in the morning, which is fantastic And isn't Sydney. Didn't

1274
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 11: mean to Sydney much over the recent past, but isn't

1275
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 11: it a vibrant city. You can understand how many, why

1276
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 11: so many Kiwis are shifting over here compared to say Auckland,

1277
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 11: which just seems to be constant doom and gloomy. Get

1278
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 11: over here and it's vibrant, everything's alive, that sunny. People

1279
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 11: have a great attitude. I've really enjoyed the.

1280
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 20: Last funny should say that projects did you notice that

1281
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 20: when you suggested a run his body just involuntarily.

1282
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: I watched you say I happened to see you on Friday,

1283
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: and I saw you standing there on the water front

1284
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: there and and I felt the same, even though it

1285
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: wasn't even there, I felt the same. And Sydney is

1286
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: one of my favorite places in the world. And you

1287
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: get it on a day like you had it, and

1288
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: obviously the game day was the same. And the harbor

1289
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: is flat, and the sky is blue, and it's nice

1290
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: and warm, and people are at the beach because it's

1291
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: you just think, that's that's what draws people from all

1292
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: over the world to Australia.

1293
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 11: And you walk into a bar, restaurant, a cafe here

1294
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 11: and they welcome you and it's great to see you.

1295
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 11: Get a mate, how's it going out? Can we help

1296
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 11: you go? You walk into a cafe at bar and

1297
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 11: orphant's like, what do you want? No, the kitchen's closed, mate,

1298
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 11: we're closing.

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Speaker 6: See you later.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's so closes.

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Speaker 20: The kitchen closes when you walk because I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I got to the food. We ran out of those. No,

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01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 11: we ran out of chicken yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's so true.

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Speaker 3: Do you know.

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Speaker 2: I was talking with somebody just in the in the

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Speaker 2: staff kitchen a moment ago. I before we get into

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Speaker 2: this bagging of the All Blacks and all that sort

1310
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Speaker 2: of stuff, and I do cite the South African result

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Speaker 2: as a very good example. I actually enjoyed the game.

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01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: I thought the game was a good game, and yes,

1313
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: we could have done some things better, but then again,

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01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: the Australians came to life, and you've got to give

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01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: Schmid some some credit for that. And that's that's mo.

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01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 22: Yeah, it is.

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01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 11: I think twenty one mil up after forty to fifteen minutes,

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01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 11: I thought that Black's going to stick sixty or seventy

1319
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 11: on them. The All Black should have won by more. Yes,

1320
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 11: they made more mistakes in that second half, and that's

1321
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 11: still an ongoing concern that they're not finishing games properly.

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01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 11: I don't think you can blame the bench. I think

1323
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 11: it's a combination of factors. I think clearly Bowden Barrett

1324
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 11: was ruled out through illness. I think a few of

1325
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 11: the other players copped a bug during the week as well.

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01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 11: Maybe Damian McKenzie, who just looked a little bit off

1327
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 11: color weave a Yes, you've got to give credit to

1328
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 11: Joe Schmidt and Mike Kross. They worked a near miracle

1329
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,959
Speaker 11: with this Wallaby team during the past week. They don't

1330
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 11: have the cattle the All Blacks do, but gee, they

1331
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 11: played well in that second half when they came back.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch it and enjoy it, guy, or are

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01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: you too immersed in the horses now to pay any

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01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: attention to anything outside of Gg's Well, I'll be honest.

1335
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 20: I was working, so I didn't watch it live, but

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Speaker 20: I have seen it.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 11: I'm similar to you.

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01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 20: I don't think it's something to get all up in

1340
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 20: arms about, like some people seem to be doing. But

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01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 20: what I do kind of worry about is that it's

1342
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 20: the same problems in the sense that it's disciplined. Two

1343
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 20: more yellow cards. You can't afford to really play a

1344
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 20: rugby game with let's say, twenty minutes with fourteen men

1345
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 20: at it on occasions, Yeah exactly, and then says the

1346
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 20: last twenty minutes or so tests at the moments they

1347
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 20: can't seem to score points. I saw Nick Beauley, who

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01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 20: does the sport down in christ Church for you and

1349
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 20: sometimes reads on your show, put out a stat that

1350
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 20: the All Blacks and the Rugby Championship haven't scored a

1351
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 20: point past the sixty minute mark in this competition this year,

1352
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 20: so that's got.

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01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 11: To be a concern.

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01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 20: I am slightly worried about, not necessarily the bench as such,

1355
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 20: and I think I've said this in the last couple

1356
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 20: of weeks, but more so the depth. I think this

1357
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 20: All Blacks team probably has thirteen to fifteen good players

1358
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 20: and then maybe not as much in the next eight

1359
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 20: or so. And let's be honest, Rugby in this day

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01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 20: and age is a twenty three man game. This is

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01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 20: and you need twenty three parts.

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01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 2: You're worried about the crowd sab I mean it's a

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01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: big stadium, so you can give them that, But I

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01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 2: mean it didn't look even close to being full. I

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01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: mean there was sixteen thousand or something like that.

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01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 11: No, it was just under seventy and it holds about

1367
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 11: eighty eighty three. So I actually thought it was I

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01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 11: thought it was a good crowd that it went flat

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01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 11: on several occasions, especially when a team goes up twenty

1370
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 11: one mili so quickly. But no, I thought the Aussie

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01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 11: rug Union did quite well, given you had the massive

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01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 11: Sydney Swan's game Friday night, you had two Rugby League

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01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 11: semi finals, which I note the Cronella game was nowhere

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01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 11: near a sellout in the middle of town. But I thought,

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01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 11: I thought the crowd was very good. A lot of

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01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 11: all black supporters area. They're expats or people that had

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01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 11: come across. And they do it well at the stadium too,

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01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 11: and it empties very quickly. Great transports.

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01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 2: We go on and on and on, and I can

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01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: go on and on, and it's in the middle of nowhere.

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01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: And that's that's the reason it empties, is because everyone's

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01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: one hundred miles away from where they live.

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01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 11: Well not I mean.

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01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: Completing a mile out of town.

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01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, listen. Listen. When I hadn't been

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01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 11: back to Olympic Park for many years, and when the

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01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 11: Olympics were on, it was just four or five or

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01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 11: six venues and that was it. There was nothing else here.

1389
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 11: But now there's apartment's, hotels, it's all built up. It's

1390
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 11: actually very close to the city.

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01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: It's no closer to the city now than it used

1392
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: to be. Sad because neither had been moved.

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Speaker 11: In, but they've built new They've built a couple of

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01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 11: new tunnels since the Sydney game, so it only takes

1395
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,479
Speaker 11: about fifteen twenty minutes. Maps on the city.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're loving Sydney brief break more at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Sebral Guy Heabilt thirteen past.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Sebral Guy, hebelt Guy, Lydia Cove this morning. Can't

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Speaker 2: stop winning?

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Speaker 20: Wow we Yeah, what a year she is having. I

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01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,479
Speaker 20: don't really know how to sum it up, to be honest.

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01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 20: An Olympic gold medal, of British Open title and now

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01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 20: another LPGA Tour title. I think, what's what? It's ao

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01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 20: citious professional win. It's just remarkable. I hope I hope

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Speaker 20: New Zealanders realize how good she is because, and I

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01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 20: think I said this after the Olympics, she is only

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Speaker 20: going to be around for a couple more years. She's

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Speaker 20: made that pretty clear. So soak it and well you can.

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Speaker 20: It's an incredible career. Very lucky to have seen her

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Speaker 20: live a couple of times, and the fact that she's

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01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 20: kind of gone through a bit of a slump as

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01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 20: well in the last few years and now has got

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01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 20: back to where she is, got back to her best

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01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 20: in a time where women's golf is probably the toughest

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01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 20: that it's been in terms of competition, in terms of

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01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 20: the depths and that sort of thing. I think it's

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Speaker 20: a remarkable feast.

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Speaker 11: She twenty three under.

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01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 20: Nine under today.

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01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, she's in that zone. She's unbeatable.

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Speaker 3: Right on.

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Speaker 23: You.

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Speaker 2: Once you believe you can win, you can win. It's

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Speaker 2: it's as simple as that's outworks. Do you have any

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01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: idea sad with what happened over the weekend in London

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01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: to fix Joseph Parker? I mean, how does that thing

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01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: get stitched together?

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01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 11: If it all Yeah, it was a big upset. That's

1434
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 11: for Anthony Joshua Jesus stocks have gone through the floor.

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01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 11: Daniel Dubois would be a great applonent for Joseph Parker.

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01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,879
Speaker 11: I think they will try to make that in December,

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01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 11: but there's a lot of obviously in boxing, a lot

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01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 11: of moving parts to put into place. I'd love to

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01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 11: see Parker on that who Sick Fury card in December

1440
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 11: in Saudi, and let's hope that happens. I can and

1441
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 11: he can find an opponent. The problem where the problem

1442
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 11: is that Parker's resurgence has frightened a few people off.

1443
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 11: That's that's the issue.

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Speaker 2: That is true, Lawson. To be confirmed, it'll be this

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01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: week or next very interesting, it'll be good. And let

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01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 2: me just put this one forward for you. He's got

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01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 2: the last six races of the season and with the

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Speaker 2: possibility of being reviewed obviously for what answer red Bulle itself.

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Speaker 11: So r B for the last six races, Yes, yep.

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01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 11: And we heard a clip there in the news from Ricardo.

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Speaker 2: He's done. It's over. The only thing they pocked up

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: is the announcement because if you look at what he

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01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 2: looked like over the weekend, he looked miserable and it

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01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: was just it was one of those ridiculous things whereby

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01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: everybody knows what's going on, he just couldn't say so.

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01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: And you saw an interview with Horne and he was

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01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 2: equally as weird about it all. And the whole thing's

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01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: just silly. But it may Lawson gets six races and

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01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 2: if if he's like hot, as in really hot, do

1460
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 2: not be surprised if he ends up in Red Bull.

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 11: And so what you're saying is they could drop Periries

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01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 11: back to.

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01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: Well there, Well, I mean that there's several things that play.

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01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 2: One of them Sonoda, of course, who I am assuming

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01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 2: would back himself to be in Red Bull ahead of Lawson,

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01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: But equally Perrieres may get dropped back or may get

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01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 2: booted out all together. Because you came this morning, it

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01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 2: came tent, you've got one point and.

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Speaker 11: Assuming it happens, isn't this fantastic for New Zealand? New

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Speaker 11: Zealand Sport sport which has produced another Formula One driver,

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Speaker 11: which is quite extraordinary given as only twenty seats per year,

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Speaker 11: right exactly, it's it's because coordinary of you compare that

1473
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 11: to say a footballer making the EPL or a basketball

1474
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 11: like Adam's making the NBA, which is fantastic in itself

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01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 11: and quite extraordinary. But if one with twenty seats and

1476
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 11: the key we to be driving for a top team

1477
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 11: is fantastic.

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01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 15: And when when.

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Speaker 20: Brindan Hartley was in it a few years ago, now,

1480
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,560
Speaker 20: the excitement around you know people getting into one and

1481
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 20: that sort of thing was fantastic. And I don't reand

1482
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 20: this with any disrespect Brendan Hartley at all, but Liam

1483
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 20: Lawson has one points already and if one so, I

1484
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 20: feel like he's probably more ready and more capable of

1485
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 20: achieving some pretty bloody good things.

1486
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 22: And that in that class exactly, you're seeing a new

1487
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 22: generation to hang in there, to hang in there with

1488
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 22: Red Bull and not Grizzle and have a great approach

1489
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 22: as Liam Lawson always does.

1490
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 11: Smart head, engineering wise, driving wise clearly increases everybody in

1491
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 11: that team. And if one paddock and doesn't have the mega,

1492
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,560
Speaker 11: millions of others who aren't that good a driver but

1493
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 11: get drives because they've got the mula. Again is another

1494
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 11: factor that has got Liam Lawson and to.

1495
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 20: Get one gets on very well with Max as well

1496
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 20: as far as I can tell, which I think might

1497
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 20: help him a lot. He might be able to learn

1498
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 20: quite a few things from.

1499
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Speaker 2: Him, exactly. All right, did you see a Taney by

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Speaker 2: the way, either of you on Friday at the LA Dodgers.

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Speaker 11: Didn't see it, But what I've read about it, the

1502
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 11: remarkable what he did in one single game, Wasn't.

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01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: That yeah, well he got a hood. It was fifty

1504
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: to fifty for the season, so fifty home runs and

1505
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: fifty stolen bases. But in fact he got fifty one

1506
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: or fifty two stolen bases by the end of the game.

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01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: But no one literally in the history of baseball ever

1508
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: has done it. That's not like a new it's a

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01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: branch making you record anyway. You enjoy you there for

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01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 2: a couple of days, A couple of days shopping.

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01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 11: Oh day off, day off today on the series, having

1512
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 11: a look around town. Another couple of happy hours to

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01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 11: a team fifteen dollar chicken, A couple of fifteen dollar chicken,

1514
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 11: Schnitty's Mic and the World's a great place. Australia is fantastic.

1515
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 11: I'm not coming home mate.

1516
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: Good on you, Nice to see you and catch you

1517
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: next Monday. Andrew Sebil and Goh else it's a twenty two.

1518
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Ate and use dog.

1519
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 2: Sydney, Mike, we feel exactly the same, not leaving Noosa,

1520
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: adore positive, great people. Sydney has it all as well,

1521
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: whether people food, greatest speechesa Noos's. I'm a big fan

1522
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: of NUSSA. Did you know Michael Katie Perry's the pregame

1523
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: entertainment of the AFL Grand Final next Saturday.

1524
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 3: I did.

1525
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: As it turns out, Swans be Lions. Here's the interesting thing.

1526
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: If you want to see how you promote a sport

1527
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 2: and how you expand a sport, AFL is your best example.

1528
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 2: Note who Once upon a time it was Melbourne Melbourne,

1529
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,919
Speaker 2: only it was a Victorian sport. No one in Australia

1530
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: cared less about it. These days it's a national sport.

1531
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: And the Swans are from Sydney and the Lions are

1532
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: from Brisbane and they're on the final. So not only

1533
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: have they expanded the sport that the good teams are

1534
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: outside of generally outside of Melbourne. Mike is at a

1535
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 2: cafe yesterday they managed to fleece me nineteen dollars for

1536
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 2: what they called a reuben. Description of what was in

1537
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 2: the Ruben was very fancy and I was looking forward

1538
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: to eating something I'd never eaten before. Imagine my shock

1539
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 2: and disappointment when I served nothing more than the toasted

1540
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 2: sandwich for nineteen dollars. Well you won't be back, Willy,

1541
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. The good people know how to

1542
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 2: do it. Mike went to Bennett's and Munga Phire yesterday.

1543
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: Qu'es out the door. I'm not surprised, see, because that

1544
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: particular part of the world would have been packed over

1545
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 2: the weekend because it was a beautiful, warm, sunny weekend.

1546
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: That particular part of the world is good at the

1547
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: best of times, and mung A Fire have been in

1548
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: the business for a very long time, are very good

1549
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: at what they do. Hence you get a cue out

1550
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 2: the door. Mike Lydia has to be the Sportsperson of

1551
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 2: the year possibly so actually Olympic Gold should be up

1552
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: against Dame Lisa though it's a lot of medals, she's

1553
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: got to be spoke so Olympic Gold, Major Champion, LPGA

1554
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. I mean it's a contest, isn't it.

1555
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: Bolt Cocktails, Mike. Best night I had was at a

1556
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: yachting regatta party on a hill and a tiger reggae

1557
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: music Martinis by the jug from a forty four gallon

1558
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 2: drum party central so Cius lindsay.

1559
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 19: At that point it doesn't really matter what's in the martini.

1560
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: Do it well, he's in the he remembered it, so

1561
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: you know, good to remember the good Night's they survived

1562
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 2: murray Olds as well as from Australia The News, which.

1563
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 23: Is next.

1564
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and views, the Mike Hosking

1565
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut from a different cloth.

1566
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 11: News togs.

1567
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 2: He'd be very very good news. I'm sorry I didn't

1568
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 2: get it in earlier, but when Sam started talking about

1569
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: Sydney and how we should all move to Sydney and

1570
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 2: how the place is going off, I was looking for

1571
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: this piece of news to counteract it. With Auckland, the

1572
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: announcement came over the weekend that the pedestrian bridge at

1573
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: Wynyard Quarter is almost fixed.

1574
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 3: No way.

1575
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely so we've been without how long we've been without

1576
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 2: it most of the year, it's been most of the

1577
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 2: year for people outside of Auckland. There's a pedestrian bridge

1578
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 2: that links one side of the harbor to the other

1579
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 2: and it broke because a lot of stuff in Auckland breaks,

1580
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: and when it breaks, what happens is that you need

1581
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 2: months on end for people to meet and thin and

1582
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: talk about it as opposed to just fixing it. And

1583
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: so they've been meeting and thinking and talking about it,

1584
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 2: and finally they have been able to announce. They don't

1585
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: have an exact date, so it was that was the

1586
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: disappointing part about then't they don't have an exact date,

1587
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: but they expect it quote unquote they expect it to

1588
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 2: be sometime in December.

1589
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 19: So yeah, it's been out of action since March eighteen.

1590
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 19: I mean, that's good news because they were telling us

1591
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 19: it was going to be We're going to have to

1592
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 19: wait till.

1593
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:28,839
Speaker 14: Next year Wednesday.

1594
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: Now that's their plant, that's where they're clever.

1595
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 19: And I've walked into that exactly into it, so I

1596
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 19: would have if I'd been able to get the bridge working.

1597
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 2: Back exactly so it was March and so it could

1598
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: be twenty six, twenty seven. Oh no, we've done it

1599
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 2: by December.

1600
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 19: Thank you, thank you, thank you so much.

1601
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 2: Incredible, twenty two minutes away from.

1602
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 14: Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1603
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 14: mind for New Zealand business.

1604
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: It's the turnin our old Murray old back this morning.

1605
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 3: Make Michael very good morning.

1606
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 2: And I would imagine that Elbanezi would like to be

1607
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 2: within the quad, within the heavyweights of the global community

1608
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,520
Speaker 2: while he watches his popularity numbers plummet.

1609
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 3: Well indeed, the Quad meeting in Delaware. Joe Biden's I

1610
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 3: guess his final appearance is the leader of the Quad Japan, Australia,

1611
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 3: India and the United States. And look, it's a photo

1612
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 3: opportunity for a prime minister who's under pressure. It doesn't

1613
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 3: hurt your chances. I wouldn't have thought to be photographed

1614
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 3: with the leaders of three major international democracies, including the

1615
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 3: President of the United States. The hot mic moment, well,

1616
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's probably bleedingly obvious to everybody

1617
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 3: who's got half a brain what Joe Biden said about

1618
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 3: China is absolutely crystal clear. Of course, China is looking

1619
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 3: at the Quad and thinking what's it going to mean

1620
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 3: for us in the years ahead. Joe Biden's a big

1621
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 3: fan of the Quad, so to Albanezi, and until we

1622
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 3: hear otherwise, I guess Peter Dutton as well. I know

1623
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 3: a lot of labor leaders over here, Paul Keating, Bob

1624
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 3: Carr and the like, they're all furiously anti Squad. They're

1625
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 3: anti orcas they say, China is the big player in

1626
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 3: our backyard, and we should cut our apron strings that

1627
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 3: tire us to Washington. That's not going to happen either.

1628
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,560
Speaker 3: So look, it's interesting the quad Albanez. He took the

1629
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 3: chance to go and be photographed with the president, but

1630
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 3: he's got problems back at home as you, as you

1631
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 3: mentioned Mike exactly. So what see.

1632
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: It seems to me that you've got the economy, the

1633
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 2: constat living thing. You've got your Reserve Bank meeting this week.

1634
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 2: My sink to it as they're not going to cut yet.

1635
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 2: So you've got economic problems. You have unemployment numbers come

1636
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: out the other day they were steady in the reasonable levels.

1637
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 2: But you've got this migration thing whereby and I suppose

1638
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 2: it's your own fault for being popular people want to

1639
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 2: flood into the country.

1640
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 3: Quite a lot of talking points in that long question

1641
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 3: of yours, but I mean tic tic tech right across

1642
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: the border. I mean, let's look at the latest opinion poll.

1643
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 3: To start with Labors that are at the lowest point

1644
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 3: in terms of news poll for almost twelve months, thirty

1645
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 3: one percent, the coalition thirty eight percent. When you strip

1646
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 3: out all the other bits and pieces, and you know

1647
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 3: we have preferential voting over here, so your second preferences count,

1648
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 3: it's fifty to fifty, so too close to call. If

1649
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 3: we had we had an election this weekend, you'd probably

1650
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 3: have Labor over the line facts the support of the Greens.

1651
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,480
Speaker 3: So it's extremely tight for Albanezi. And as you say, immigration,

1652
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 3: the whole business of Palestinian visas, and of course the

1653
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 3: housing stink and that is just enormous. That's really marked

1654
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 3: down the Labor government here. But Labour's and a bind Mike,

1655
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 3: as you know, we can't do anything without the support

1656
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 3: of either the Coalition or the Greens, and both those

1657
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 3: two other parties miraculously have lined up politically to oppose

1658
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 3: what Labour wants to do. Now, the Greens on the

1659
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 3: weekend have come out and said listen, we will back

1660
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 3: your support a big apartner. We will support your plan

1661
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 3: to reform the Reserve Bank of Australia by introducing a

1662
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 3: second board with exclusive control of a monetary policy. But

1663
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 3: on the condition that if the Reserve Bank does not

1664
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 3: move tomorrow and cut interest rates, the government steps in,

1665
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 3: and it has this power legislatively it can step in

1666
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 3: and unilaterally cut rates. Well, I mean that's just pine

1667
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 3: the sky stuff from the weirdos in the Greens. I mean,

1668
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 3: Labour's never going to do that, and Dunton never would either.

1669
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 3: So labor's in a rock at a hard place. The

1670
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 3: numbers are very, very poor for labor, but politically it's

1671
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 3: jammed and there's not a hell of a lot albit

1672
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 3: easy can do. And there's no way known the Reserve

1673
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 3: Bank is going to be forced by the government to

1674
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 3: cut rates.

1675
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, and nor should they because of course they're independent

1676
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 2: and they should be independent. That's why you have independent organizations.

1677
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: So and it increased the three hundred and eighty eight thousand.

1678
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: Is there any sort of agreement as to what's an

1679
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 2: acceptable number and water isn't.

1680
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 3: No, it depends that you talk to you on any

1681
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 3: day of the week. I mean, you know net three

1682
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 3: eighty eight was at four and fifty last year. Does

1683
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 3: the coalution want two hundred and twenty? Look, it's they're

1684
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 3: just numbers plucked out of the air, thrown against you know,

1685
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 3: a spitboard, And it just depends who you talk to.

1686
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 3: For political purposes, the Coalition is howling from the rooftops.

1687
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 3: Labor is weak, Labor is pathetic, Labor letting too many people,

1688
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 3: and look at the clog roads. You can't get a house,

1689
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 3: you can't get a rental. But the other side of that,

1690
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 3: of course, is that foreign students, which are the overwhelming

1691
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 3: number of migranc here. Foreign students contribute forty billion dollars

1692
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 3: to the Australian economy billion amazing, And the argument there,

1693
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 3: of course goes will hang on a second. If we've

1694
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 3: got all these foreign students coming in, what about ossie kids.

1695
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 3: Ossie kids pay a fraction of the price for their degrees.

1696
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 3: It's a big business proposition for our universities over here.

1697
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 3: So the government is damned if you do, damned if

1698
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 3: you don't. I mean, who wants to be who wants

1699
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 3: to be a politician?

1700
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: Exactly? I was reading something in the Sydney Morning Hero

1701
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: of the weekend. They were doing average incomes required to

1702
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 2: buy houses in certain parts of Sydney. I mean, admittedly

1703
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 2: they were nicer parts of Sydney, but you're needing a

1704
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 2: wage of half a million dollars and that's you know,

1705
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 2: for your a question.

1706
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, primary teachers are getting one hundred

1707
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year, police officer, one hundred and ten

1708
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 3: nurses eighty nine ninety thousand dollars. I mean, hello, who

1709
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 3: can afford on those wages to buy a home in Sydney.

1710
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 3: It's just ridiculous. But what do you do? How do

1711
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 3: you fix that? And the other thing I thought you

1712
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 3: might like. Friday afternoon, after we spoke last Friday in

1713
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 3: the Senate, some figures were tabled about the visa question

1714
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 3: with the Palestinians who have been granted visas to come

1715
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 3: to Australia. The opposition's been screaming, oh, they've been allowed

1716
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 3: and they're going to they haven't been vetted properly, blah

1717
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 3: blah blah. You know who's coming here, don't you? Women

1718
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 3: and children? Yes, And ASIO, which is the domestic spy

1719
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 3: service we have here in Australia. It stood up in

1720
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 3: the Senate and said, listen, can you just dial down

1721
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 3: the hysterics. Of course we are checking these people. Of

1722
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 3: course we are checking the bono Fridays. They go through

1723
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 3: eight separate lots of checks. So and the opposition side,

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Speaker 3: can you shut up because all you're doing is making

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Speaker 3: people anxious out in the suburbs.

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Speaker 2: Exactly? All right, mate, go well we'll catch up Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Murray Olds across the Tasman. By the way, the other

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Speaker 2: thing I read about housing in Australia over the weekend.

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01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,759
Speaker 2: The share of interest only lines is at twenty percent

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01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 2: twenty plus percent for the June quarter. That's the highest

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01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 2: level since twenty nineteen. Counteracted a little bit. A lot

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Speaker 2: of its investors and often people who buy, you know,

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01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: rental homes, investment homes, whatever, do it on an interest

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Speaker 2: free only but they worry that there's a there's a

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01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 2: pressure building up in the old housing landscape that might

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Speaker 2: come back and bite them in the bun eight forty five, The.

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Speaker 1: High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard By

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Speaker 1: News talks at.

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Speaker 2: Be Mike, it's thirteen minutes twenty minutes away from My

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01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: favorite cocktailer is an espresso Martini. We tried the tap version.

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01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: A lot of you people have been arguing that you've

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01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: been to places here in this country that do do

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01:23:55,160 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 2: tap keg whatever cocktails. Anyway, we tried the tap version

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01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 2: at a bar at Auckland. Not sure if this was

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01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: the same brand, but one hundred percent not the same

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01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 2: fun for a novelty, I wouldn't buy it again. Mike

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01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 2: saw an interview in the last couple of days with Horner.

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Speaker 2: I saw the same thing. This is Christian Horner. They

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01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: had a red Bull in which he said they have

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01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,560
Speaker 2: to check how Liam would go against Beerman. This is

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Speaker 2: Oli Bearman. Oli Beerman's racing for Hals next to you

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01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 2: and a guy they had an Air three A Hadaja Well,

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01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: I think that's his name anyway. It's just that he

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01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 2: doesn't want to dump a mate. Riccardo, it's already done. Look,

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01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 2: just just believe me, it's already over. And I'll have

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01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 2: more than that in a moment. So they've got a

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Speaker 2: three week gap, They've got six races left. They've got

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Speaker 2: the three coming up, which is in Austin and Texas,

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01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 2: then they go to Mexico, then they go to South America,

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Speaker 2: then a small break before they go to Las Vegas,

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01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: and then they do the final two races for the

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01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 2: season in the in the Middle East. So that's basically

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01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: where it's at. But the deal is done. And you

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01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 2: can tell you you didn't have to be a rocket

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01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:59,799
Speaker 2: scientist to work out that the Riccardo knows, Lawson knows everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's just as Ted Krabitz said, I think over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: you know why they don't do these things more cleanly

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Speaker 2: and clearly. I have no idea, and you know, just

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01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 2: just get on with it and announce it. It is

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Speaker 2: ten away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Costing breakfast with al Vida retirement communities.

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Speaker 2: Given away from I forgot to mention that the European

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01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 2: Union over the weekend announced their lending Ukraine by about

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Speaker 2: sixty billion New Zealand dollars and you will decide how

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01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: best to use it. Zelenska notes off to America this

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01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 2: week for more pressure on Biden before he leaves. He

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01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 2: must be absolutely beside himself that Trump's going to win.

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01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: And if Trump wins, that's the end of the money. Anyway,

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01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 2: this will be This will free more of your national

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Speaker 2: resources to strengthen and then, for example, your military capabilities

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01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:50,799
Speaker 2: to defend yourself against the Russian aggression they're doing. They've

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Speaker 2: got these assets frozen, the Russians, or Russian assets in Europe.

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Speaker 2: They've got about four hundred and fifty billion dollars worth

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Speaker 2: of Russian assets in Europe frozen. Their thinking is that

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Speaker 2: somehow that's going to be loosened at some point made available,

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Speaker 2: at which point Zelenski gets to pay back the loan.

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Speaker 2: How they think that's going to work. I'm not one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent sure, but I don't think they worry about

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Speaker 2: that stuff anymore when it comes to debt, the global

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Speaker 2: debt they've also worked out over the weekend. By the way,

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Speaker 2: if you didn't see this, that COVID quote unquote beyond

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Speaker 2: reasonable doubt started with infected animals at the market. It's

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Speaker 2: not a lab, it's not a leak conspiracy. Theorists, put

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Speaker 2: your pens down. It's over short list of animals. They

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Speaker 2: looked at the raccoon dogs, the sibits, and the bamboo

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Speaker 2: rats in the markets team in the US and France.

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Speaker 2: They performed even more advanced genetic analysis on all of this.

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Speaker 2: Analyzing millions of short fragments of genetic code. Both DNA

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01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 2: and RNA established what animals and viruses were in the

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Speaker 2: market in January. Back in twenty twenty. This is all

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Speaker 2: written up in a journal called Cell. We find a

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Speaker 2: very consistent story in terms of this pointing even at

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Speaker 2: the level of a single stall to the market as

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Speaker 2: being the very likely origin of this particular pandemic.

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Speaker 19: So it wasn't even bats, it wasn't what It wasn't

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Speaker 19: even bats or pangolins, or it might have just been rats.

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Speaker 3: So well, that's pretty boring.

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Speaker 2: Bamboo rat, bamboo rat, or a sibbot or a raccoon dog,

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Speaker 2: but no, not a bat, not a bat and not

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Speaker 2: a lab.

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Speaker 19: So we're going to stop calling it the bat flu.

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Speaker 2: And not a leak. It's Ober five minutes away from.

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Speaker 2: Now Redley and Lawson. So these rumors all over the

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Speaker 2: weekend they went into Singapore that it could only it

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Speaker 2: could not only be you know, Ricardo's sort of getting replaced,

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01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: but he was replaced as of this weekend. Brundle, no

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01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 2: less as in Martin. He came out and he also

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01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 2: said that Lawson will replace Ricardo. And that's and that's

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm trying to say with the story. Every

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Speaker 2: body knows it's a done decision. And and what's his name,

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Speaker 2: Horner was busy trying to talk about how the possibility is.

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Speaker 2: And we've got a three week break and we'll have

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Speaker 2: a bit of a chat and we'll see where things

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Speaker 2: are at, and it's all my mean, come on, anyway,

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Speaker 2: Ricardo did his final interview and and you sort of

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Speaker 2: got the seats he knows as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, well.

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Speaker 23: I Yeah, a lot of a lot of emotions because look,

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Speaker 23: I'm aware it could it could be it, And yeah,

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Speaker 23: I think.

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Speaker 3: It's also just exhausted after the race.

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Speaker 23: So there's so much I don't know, just like a

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Speaker 23: flood of many emotions and feelings and.

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Speaker 3: Exhaustion, and yeah, the cockpit is something that.

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Speaker 19: I got very very used to for many years.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, just just one of those save of the moment.

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Speaker 2: Right, So you're telling me they haven't made a decision,

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Speaker 2: and so Horner can stand there. I'm not a big

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Speaker 2: fan of Christian Horner, to be honest, the way he

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Speaker 2: conducts himself. So he stands there throughout the weekend going no, no,

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Speaker 2: nothing's been decided. We'll all get together. And you got

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01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 2: that guy who knows full well his career is over.

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01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 2: He got knocked out. He didn't even get out of

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Speaker 2: Q one, and Sonoda did once again, by the way,

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Speaker 2: when he talks about exhaustion of the race. Because of

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01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: course at Singapore, Lewis, Hamilton and Russell didn't turn up

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Speaker 2: for their post media interviews. They were literally exhausted on

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Speaker 2: drips the whole thing. When you're racing in thirty one

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Speaker 2: degrees and one hundred and thirty thousand percent humidity. Things

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01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 2: tend to get a bit warm and the old cockpit

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01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 2: there we go. One day could have been worse. That's

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Speaker 2: what we say here on the Mic Hosking Breakfast, Isn't

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Speaker 2: it The Mic Hosking Breakfast could.

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Speaker 3: Have been worse.

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow at six as always, have you that.

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