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Speaker 2: B Billing and welcome to day new contract's new approach

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Speaker 2: to try and get the chronically absence into our schools.

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Speaker 2: At the Rentokraft smash Winston Peter's window. Last night with

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Speaker 2: the new laws making any difference, we got more good

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Speaker 2: news around our local body elections. Over two hundred are

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Speaker 2: going to win unopposed. How awesome. Catherine Fields and France

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Speaker 2: who are yet again looking for a prime Minister. Rod

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Speaker 2: lidlchecks in from the UK pasking welcome to the day

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Speaker 2: seven pass six who knew the New Zealand Society of

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Speaker 2: Actuaries would be so useful? Their Retirement Income Interest Group,

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Speaker 2: Yes there is a thing, has come up with what

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Speaker 2: you can only describe as a simple and yet effective

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Speaker 2: idea around hopefully sorting out our retirement nest egg dilemma

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Speaker 2: once and for all. What we need, they argue, and

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Speaker 2: they're right, a single framework for consistent discussion of what

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Speaker 2: would be an adequate retirement income now, their point being

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Speaker 2: the various boss who produce numbers like a million dollars,

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Speaker 2: it means nothing. It's like inflation around food. The other day,

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Speaker 2: the latest stats came out on food. Food prices were

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Speaker 2: up five percent? Were they not really? I mean if

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Speaker 2: you counted all the food they were maybe. But we

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Speaker 2: don't buy all the food. We buy our food, and

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Speaker 2: our food might end up more or less, buy a

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Speaker 2: lot or buy a little. So when they tell you need,

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Speaker 2: for example, a million dollars to retire, will you know

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Speaker 2: you might? But you might not. So what's the point?

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Speaker 2: There isn't one. So to their idea, work backwards. What

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Speaker 2: is it you want by way of a figure? And

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Speaker 2: then you link it to what you were? Now that's

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Speaker 2: not hard. A You might decide you need a little

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Speaker 2: bit less than what you currently earn, given you won't

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Speaker 2: be commuting, or you might not be having afterwork drinks.

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Speaker 2: You might decide you want the same or more whatever.

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Speaker 2: So what you need to do to say that we'll

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Speaker 2: give you what you earn by way of a wage today. Now,

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Speaker 2: if we all talk about that the same way, at

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Speaker 2: least the figure or the goal becomes clear, or at

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Speaker 2: least a bit clearer. Now, their example at the four

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Speaker 2: percent and four percent, which is what we're about to

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Speaker 2: move to. For Kiwi Saber, they've come up with this calculation.

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Speaker 2: If you work from your early twenties, earn a median income,

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Speaker 2: invest in a balance fund, you will end up at

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Speaker 2: about seventy five percent of what you're currently in. Is

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Speaker 2: that what you want? Do you want more? Do you

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Speaker 2: want less? Whatever? At least you know where you are.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the other question you could ask is does

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Speaker 2: anyone pay attention to any of this anyway? Is part

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Speaker 2: of the problem around retirement savings and cost the simple

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Speaker 2: fact that we put it off, pretend it's years away

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Speaker 2: until it isn't. Then we panic if things haven't worked out.

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Speaker 2: The answers have always been there, but it's been confused

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Speaker 2: by the myriad of so called experts, all with their

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Speaker 2: own special recipe for success. But the actuaries might have

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Speaker 2: cracked it simple and consistent, like most good ideas.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Right France, Another day, another PM.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of red lines in the mouths

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Speaker 3: of many.

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Speaker 4: However, the very principle of building a compromise between political

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Speaker 4: parties is to be able to combine green lines and

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Speaker 4: take into account a certain number of red lines.

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Speaker 3: But we cannot be at both extremes.

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Speaker 2: No, we cannot. So he's gone. Catherine shortly across the channel,

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Speaker 2: the Tory is in mid conference. They sink clearly out

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Speaker 2: to beg reform.

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Speaker 5: Let reform chase the clicks and lights online, and let

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Speaker 5: real conservatives serve their communities and in our party. We

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Speaker 5: understand the difference they see.

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Speaker 2: They since stried out to sound like how dean.

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Speaker 6: Conservative values opportunity, aspiration, optimism. We are the party of hope,

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Speaker 6: We are the party of the future.

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Speaker 7: We can and we will.

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Speaker 2: In Sky produced a poll.

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Speaker 8: Only forty six percent think she should stay in place,

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Speaker 8: fifty percent say she shouldn't. Forty nine percent thinks she'll

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Speaker 8: be out before the election. Robert Jenrick forty six percent

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Speaker 8: pick him as their choice for leader.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Hubert has kimming bednok. Of course, Trump's having

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Speaker 2: trouble with rolling out the National Guard. The courts don't

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Speaker 2: quite see it his way at the moment, but they

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Speaker 2: have arrived in Chicago.

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Speaker 9: There is no emergent see here in Chicago or in

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Speaker 9: the state of Illinois.

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Speaker 10: The only crisis that we have is the chaos.

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Speaker 9: That has been caused by Donald Trump and his administration.

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on to sort that particular confusion out. The

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Speaker 11: We have specific officers and agents that have bounties that

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Speaker 11: have been put out on their heads. It's been two

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Speaker 11: thousand dollars to kidnap them, ten thousand dollars to kill them.

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Speaker 11: They've released their pictures, they've sent them between their networks,

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Speaker 11: and it's an extremely dangerous situation.

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Speaker 2: Finally, ozempic face, Yes, it's become a thing in plastic surgery.

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Speaker 2: So when you lose a lot of weight on all

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Speaker 2: these pills and potions and jabs, your face can have

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Speaker 2: a bit of a deflated look. So the American Society

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Speaker 2: of Plastic Surgeons annual report shows put me decent of

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Speaker 2: those who have taken weight loss drugs are considering cosmetic

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Speaker 2: surgery to their face, twenty percent of actually gone ahead

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Speaker 2: and done it. The amount of place of neck fillers

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Speaker 2: is up eight percent, the biggest rise since the reports

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Speaker 2: have began. Philly use generally has doubled since the zimpic

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Speaker 2: was first. Clear fears and let us use the world

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Speaker 2: in runs. Just to confirm, mister Lamont, you twenty seven

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Speaker 2: days if you can be leave at fifth prime, Minister

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Speaker 2: in less than two years twenty seven days. Each political

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Speaker 2: in parliament. So he's gone, as I say, Catherine shortly,

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Speaker 2: but I tell you who is hot. The new PM

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Speaker 2: in Japan stocks hit a record high. They are loving

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Speaker 2: Tacker Ichi more with Andrew. Shortly twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Very sad that Jilly Cooper's died over under the age

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Speaker 2: complete shock out of the fall. But Dame Commander made

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Speaker 2: Dame Commander last year. Other thing this morning, you need

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Speaker 2: looking for an appeal. They're not going to hear it.

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Speaker 2: and partners. Andrew teller her welcome for the week. Very

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Speaker 2: good morning, Mike Paymark, give me the good news. Is

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Speaker 2: there any good news? Are we spending or not?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 12: Well, they are?

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Speaker 3: Why Cat Oak good?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's all good. So the dairy money making a

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Speaker 13: difference there, but no nowhere else. Really, Yeah, we're still

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Speaker 13: signs that the economy is reviving. Spending, that's one area

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Speaker 13: we'd expect to see lifting around this time of year,

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Speaker 13: simply because it is this time of year. So we're

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Speaker 13: coming into summer and the yacht Christmas of course, so

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Speaker 13: seasonally we do spend more. Now, Yeah, this is slightly

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Speaker 13: different lens, isn't it yesterday? Because it's not Stat's New

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Speaker 13: Zealand data, it's not bank data. This is a pressure

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Speaker 13: release yesday from Worldline whore own Paymark Paymark one of

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Speaker 13: the payment processing systems, so the mechanics behind you swiping

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Speaker 13: your car. Figures released yesterday showed that consumer spending recorded

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Speaker 13: through all of their core retail merchants in their New

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Speaker 13: Zealand Payments network in September twenty five reached three point

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Speaker 13: sixty five billion, So we still spend a lot of money.

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Speaker 13: That number is up one point one percent on September

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Speaker 13: twenty four. That is adjusted, so it's like for light,

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Speaker 13: so depending on whether retails came in or out, but

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Speaker 13: immediately you note that number is not inflation adjusts, of

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Speaker 13: which when no inflations stay running around three percent. So

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Speaker 13: on real terms, we're going backwards, aren't we. So it

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Speaker 13: continues to paint the picture of subdued consumer spending worldline.

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Speaker 13: Do note that Key, we start to lift their spending

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Speaker 13: from September through December, so those four months we see

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Speaker 13: a lift as not happened this year. They were also

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Speaker 13: monitoring housing related merchants and hospitality merchants for any sign

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Speaker 13: that the usual seasonal pickup was actually starting or beginning

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Speaker 13: to come in a little bit higher, and the theory

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Speaker 13: there being that this was suggested to turn around in

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Speaker 13: national economic growth. But in their words, Mike, both of

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Speaker 13: those sectors failed to match the uptick of last September,

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Speaker 13: so annual growth rates actually declined. So the big picture, Mike,

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Speaker 13: no flickts regionally. Auckland Northland biggest spend regionally by a

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Speaker 13: heck of a long shot. That was zero point zero percent,

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Speaker 13: so effectively going backwards. As I said, the mighty Waikator

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Speaker 13: up three point three percent, so spending there and Canterbury.

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Speaker 13: Canbury was down nine sero point five, So what's going

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Speaker 2: Well, exactly do it over lunch in order an extra course. Japan,

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Speaker 2: they're loving.

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Speaker 13: It, absolutely loving it. So somewhere that is lifting at

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Speaker 13: least the share market anyway, Japan. So the Japanese share

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Speaker 13: market cheering enthusiastically a potential new leader. So this is

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Speaker 13: Democratic Party of Sinai, Takaichi. There is a result of that,

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Speaker 13: the nik A two to five index has had a

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Speaker 13: heighth That is a very substantial move. The Topics index

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Speaker 13: hundred and twenty five socks, that's also up circa three

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Speaker 13: note that Takichi becoming the LDP leader opens the door

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Speaker 13: female prime minister, and I think that is confirmed voted

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Speaker 13: later this month. As far as the share market concerned, Mike,

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Speaker 13: what you're getting is what's now being termed the attacker

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Speaker 13: echi trade, and it's based upon the expectation of more

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Speaker 13: fiscal stimulus, more government spending, so looser monetary policy. So

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Speaker 13: it's lifting a whole bunch of sectors in the share market.

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Speaker 13: The Japanese yen has weakened. The thing to look out

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Speaker 13: for here is whether or not you see any weakness

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Speaker 13: in longer dated Japanese bonds, because that might sort of

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Speaker 13: just feed through into the global bond market. Defense stocks

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Speaker 13: actually have gone up because more military spending is expected.

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, good on them.

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Speaker 2: Interesting RV tomorrow. So I'll tell you what's interesting is

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Speaker 2: there seems to be no real consensus around this. Yes,

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Speaker 2: a cut, but no one is at twenty five or fifteen,

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Speaker 2: and we can't get agreement on this.

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Speaker 13: I was a little bit surprised that that shadow board.

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Speaker 13: I probably shouldn't be surprised that this is the ends

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Speaker 13: of a shadow board. They're putting a twenty five basis

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Speaker 13: point cut. Look, personally, I think this should go fifty.

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Speaker 2: Base this points.

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Speaker 13: I mean, they're worried about spec capacity in the economy.

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Speaker 13: Remember that it's not about growth. From their point of view,

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Speaker 13: we worry about growth. They've just got to worry about inflation.

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Speaker 13: But unless they move, they're not going to stimulate the economy.

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Speaker 13: That's spare Cabas is going to stay there. I just

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Speaker 13: can't quite see the downside. If you're going to go

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Speaker 13: fifty basis points within and Christmas, why not do it

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Speaker 13: straight away? I just so I need to. I need

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Speaker 13: to sit and contemplate that.

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Speaker 2: Why are we offering free drinks?

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Speaker 2: Are you happy or not?

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Speaker 4: Look, I am happy that the Commerce Commission is doing

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Speaker 4: Well, it means if they did run an inquiry it

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Speaker 2: executive director for the Border Berline Represented, don't you like

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Speaker 2: bright people tell you what the com com did yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Mike?

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Speaker 2: What happened to the noise police sorting out repeat noise

438
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Speaker 2: disturbance at Winnie's place in Auckland? If you play music

439
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Speaker 2: or even talk or laugh, perhaps a backyard barbecue to

440
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Speaker 2: the level it can be heard outside the walls noise

441
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Speaker 2: that that's not true, simply not true. You've got to

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Speaker 2: be doing something, and it's a council thing. I mean,

443
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Speaker 2: what do you expect the council to do?

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Speaker 12: Mike?

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Speaker 2: Those protesters outside Winston's house should be arrested. Their rebel

446
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Speaker 2: of unemployed more intent on intimidation than protesting. I think

447
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Speaker 2: I think Peters was right on the weekend when you

448
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Speaker 2: suggested they'd lost the moral high ground. I think I

449
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Speaker 2: don't think there's anybody left who wouldn't agree with that anyway.

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Speaker 2: More on that after seven o'clock six forty five.

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Speaker 18: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

452
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Speaker 18: for New Zealand business, because we must.

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Speaker 2: Go immediately to chatin Field, who's in France. Catherine, very

454
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Speaker 2: good morning to you, Good morning mine. Is so things

455
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Speaker 2: going reasonably well at the moment, then are they?

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Speaker 19: Mike.

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Speaker 6: I stopped looking at the news about two minutes ago,

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Speaker 6: and I shuddered to think what I may have rested

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Speaker 6: those two minutes, because it has been the most extraordinary

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Speaker 6: twenty four hours. Even by French standards of political drama,

461
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Speaker 6: it's been extraordinary. So we had Sunday evening very late,

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Speaker 6: the caretaker prime minister announced his new Cabinet's Abati Lecorn

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Speaker 6: News said he'd finally, after all the negotiations, come up

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Speaker 6: with the names and then blow me down. The next morning,

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Speaker 6: fourteen hours twenty six minutes later, he announces his resignation,

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Speaker 6: says the government which still hasn't met for cabinet, is

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Speaker 6: also going to resign because forteen hours after announcing this cabinet,

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Speaker 6: he said that the negotiations that had been going on,

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Speaker 6: had gotten nowhere.

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Speaker 18: He said.

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Speaker 6: None of the parties involved were able to make compromises.

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Speaker 6: They all just wanted to push their own program onto

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Speaker 6: the government. Then they wanted other parties to adopt that.

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Speaker 6: So governor has fallen. Lecornu had a record twenty seven

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Speaker 6: days as French Prime minister, shortest ever term. He has

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Speaker 6: now been asked by Emmanuel Macron, the president, to go

477
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Speaker 6: away for forty eight hours to try and find a

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Speaker 6: responsible and stable solution to the crisis of having no government.

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Speaker 6: And once he finds that, then the President will put

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Speaker 6: in place a platform of action and stability. What that

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Speaker 6: means we don't know.

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Speaker 2: No, I was going to say, I didn't understand a

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Speaker 2: word you said. Just then, having said that, at what

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Speaker 2: point does it become Macron's problem. You can't just keep

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Speaker 2: picking people who resign.

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Speaker 6: It is already Macron's problem. Let's just be honest about

487
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Speaker 6: it here. His first term went quite well. He swept

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Speaker 6: to power young new centrist president, and he was also

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Speaker 6: swept to power through parliamentary elections. His party got in,

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Speaker 6: they got a majority. They were able to put in

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Speaker 6: place a lot of those sort of centrist policies that

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Speaker 6: he'd wanted some of the reforms, particularly to the budget.

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Speaker 6: Second term has not gone well. His party did not

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Speaker 6: get a clear majority at the start of that. He

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Speaker 6: thought he might when a new majority by having new

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Speaker 6: elections mid twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: That didn't come off.

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Speaker 6: He's had three prime ministers since mid twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 6: So it is his problem. He caused the problem by

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Speaker 6: causing those elections when he didn't need to. Problem is

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Speaker 6: it's very difficult to get rid of a French president,

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Speaker 6: and as they die in office or they're resigned. He

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Speaker 6: said he's not going to resign. He's staying where he is.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 6: The other problem, of course that Mike is French politics is,

506
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Speaker 6: up until very recently, it was just two parties, so

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Speaker 6: it was sort of go from the Socialists to the

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Speaker 6: Conservatives and backwards and force. They just do not have

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Speaker 6: a culture here, Mike, of compromise of coalitions, and they're

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Speaker 6: learning that the hard way.

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Speaker 2: That was my next question. How much of what these

512
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Speaker 2: parties refused to concede was based on the desire their

513
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Speaker 2: own individual desires to see somebody fall and pay a price.

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Speaker 2: In other words, you can say whatever you want. They're

515
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Speaker 2: not going to agree to anything.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's exactly it. On the one side, you had

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Speaker 6: what they're calling the center ground, which is what Macron

518
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Speaker 6: was hoping that he could get sort of the center

519
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Speaker 6: left and the center right together. But of course the

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Speaker 6: center left all they wanted to talk about was reforms

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Speaker 6: to the retirement policy, to pension reforms.

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Speaker 2: When it came to.

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Speaker 6: The center right, they said, well, you know, we want

524
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Speaker 6: more done on immigration, on migration, number on laws regarding

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Speaker 6: non French people and France the other ones were saying, well,

526
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Speaker 6: we're not going to do anything unless you bring in

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Speaker 6: ax to tax a super rich. So there was no compromise.

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Speaker 6: But I mean some people say, you know, Mike, that

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Speaker 6: perhaps sebast In Corner could have thought of that before

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Speaker 6: he announced the new cabinet.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a pleasure, Catherine ketchup. So in Catherine Field

532
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Speaker 2: and France, they're voting. In Syria, it'll take a while

533
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Speaker 2: before we get the numbers through. This is the first

534
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Speaker 2: election since Elisade got bold no direct vote for the

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Speaker 2: People's Assembly. This bit's interesting. So electoral colleges will select

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Speaker 2: representatives for two thirds of the two hundred and ten

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Speaker 2: seats in the Parliament. They postponed the polls for security

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Speaker 2: reasons in a couple of Kurdish controlled provinces and a

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Speaker 2: third one where there's a bunch of fighting between the

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Speaker 2: government forces and the Druid militia. Siri is now rebuilding

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Speaker 2: itself through establishing a new state, building institutions and laws

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Speaker 2: that guarantee the rights of all without exception, so they

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Speaker 2: say so. The polls are being overseen by the Higher

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Speaker 2: Committee for the Syrian People's Assembly elections. Eleven members were

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Speaker 2: chosen by the President. This is where it all starts

546
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Speaker 2: to get a bit dodgy. So he picks the committee.

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Speaker 2: The committee oversees things. The number of seats dellicated in

548
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Speaker 2: each of the sixty districts is based on census data

549
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Speaker 2: collected back in twenty ten. There's more than fifteen hundred candidates.

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Speaker 2: At least twenty percent of the electoral college members were

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Speaker 2: required to be women. President will choose the representatives for

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Speaker 2: seventy seats from outside the Electoral College. Now, the President

553
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Speaker 2: look him up, look at the group he belongs to,

554
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Speaker 2: and ask yourself, does this guy seem sort of a

555
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Speaker 2: centrist who might be leaving the country ford or not?

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Speaker 2: Nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Togs deadb.

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Speaker 2: Mike Syria a terrorist in a suit. Well, your word's

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Speaker 2: not mine vander Lane. By the way, I should have

560
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Speaker 2: mentioned this before the break. She's got a couple of

561
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Speaker 2: bids coming this week to remove her, second time in

562
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Speaker 2: three months. There's almost note that you need two thirds

563
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Speaker 2: to get rid of it, so they won't get there.

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Speaker 2: But the left and the right. France is far left,

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Speaker 2: hard right. Their national rally in France unbound. They're going

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Speaker 2: to have a crack and they have the vote on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Mike Oh the Irony, Chloe and Marrima are perplexed with

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Speaker 2: the keyboard warriors who attack their MPs, particularly the ones

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Speaker 2: who have done wrong in the public eye but support

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Speaker 2: their Green supporters standing outside of government minister's house. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you notice that, Irony, did you yesterday? Further Irony, I

572
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Speaker 2: noticed was the media stand up and I'll come back

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Speaker 2: to that and where the media were which was nowhere

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Speaker 2: to be seen. But more shortly five minutes away from seven, all.

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Speaker 20: The ins and the outs, it's the bears with business

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Speaker 20: Fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Well, ironly going started the show if you were there

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Speaker 2: at six o'clock on the subject of retire sightings and

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Speaker 2: some potential solutions because we have, as it turns out,

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Speaker 2: a bit of a problem. We're leaving Kiwi, Saber and Droves.

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Speaker 2: These are the annual IRD stats. First time ever. Number

582
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Speaker 2: of people in all the categories below aged thirty five

583
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Speaker 2: have gone backwards, none more so than the under eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Since the peak, which was three hundred and sixty eight

585
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Speaker 2: thousy under eighteen signed up in June of fifteen. There's

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Speaker 2: now only one hundred and sixty nine thousand hours of

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Speaker 2: June this year. They've all deserted for obvious reasons. I

588
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Speaker 2: would have thought it's been going down ever since. The government,

589
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Speaker 2: this was Bill English's idea, canceled the one thousand dollars kickstart.

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Speaker 2: That was the problem. The problem with retirement savings is

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Speaker 2: get in early and stick with it. You stay with

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Speaker 2: it and be consistent. But of course that's what the

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Speaker 2: government preached, but they never followed their own rules. IRD

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Speaker 2: shows ten thousand, six hundred people opted out in the

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Speaker 2: latest financial period. That's those who entered work but they

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Speaker 2: said no to the scheme. Number of people that had

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Speaker 2: previously opted out had dropped from two forty eight to

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Speaker 2: one eighty eight, So that's a good sign. I suppose

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Speaker 2: members age twenty five thirty four. That's the biggest number

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Speaker 2: of participants, which is encouraging. I guess the seven hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty thousand people in that age group. Overall, the

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Speaker 2: age groups have grown by about ten thousand in the

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Speaker 2: last year. We're withdrawing though. This is the problem, you see.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's one thing to be a member, but

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Speaker 2: what are he actually doing? Well, a lot of people

606
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Speaker 2: are pulling money out for hardship. Four hundred and seventy

607
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Speaker 2: one million's gone through hardship in the last financial year.

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Speaker 2: There is some withdrawal, a lot of it for first home.

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Speaker 2: I'm never then convinced this is I mean, either have

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Speaker 2: a retirement scheme while you don't anyway, Be that as

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Speaker 2: it may. So you've got one point nine billion being

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Speaker 2: taken out to get into the housing market compared with

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Speaker 2: one point four billion last year. So essentially it's a

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Speaker 2: first lame buyers saving scheme. It's not really a retirement scheme.

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Speaker 2: The agament being, of course, if you buy your house

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Speaker 2: and then another house and another house you can retire

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Speaker 2: off the back of that. Now you've got to go

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Speaker 2: to school before you can get a job. Of course,

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Speaker 2: I think we've learned that over the weekend with the

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Speaker 2: changes to the laws for job seeker and for all

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Speaker 2: of those people who don't go to school. The government's

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Speaker 2: got yet another plan. They've signed some new contracts with

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Speaker 2: some new people who go out and round up all

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Speaker 2: the scaley wags. David Seymour chargeable of this needs with

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Speaker 2: us directly after the news which.

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Speaker 20: Is mixed, credible, compelling. The breakfast show you can't best.

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Speaker 1: It's the mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate finding

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Speaker 1: the buyers. Others can't use togs dead be.

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Speaker 2: We teven past seven. So new contract system being rolled

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Speaker 2: out to deal with our chronic school absenteers and problem.

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Speaker 2: Old deals have been scrapped. We've got fully new contracts

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Speaker 2: for eighty three rather new contracts. A bunch of schools

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Speaker 2: will get extra support. There's money for basics like uniforms

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Speaker 2: and transport. David Seymore as the Associate Minister of Education

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Speaker 2: and is in charge of all of this needs back

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Speaker 2: with us morning, Good morning mate. Overall, are you winning

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Speaker 2: or not.

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Speaker 21: We are because attendance is improving and it's probably I

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Speaker 21: would say that the number one thing that matters today

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Speaker 21: is how many children actually go to school in terms

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Speaker 21: of defining our long term future. That's why we're fixing it.

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Speaker 21: In the case of these attendance contracts, I went around

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Speaker 21: the country, talked to principals, deans, attendance offices and schools

644
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Speaker 21: and said, well, you know, what are you getting from

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Speaker 21: your attendant service contracts. The answer was highly variable. Ero

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Speaker 21: at the same time did a more scientific investigation and

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Speaker 21: found that it's actually terrible in many places. So we

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Speaker 21: have dumped the contracts that we had. We've recontracted in

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Speaker 21: eighty three new regions. We've also improved the access to

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Speaker 21: data so new software, so they spend less time looking

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Speaker 21: for children and more time actually getting them back to

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Speaker 21: school and staying there. This is on top of adding

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Speaker 21: about twenty million a year in extra funding for attendant

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Speaker 21: services because you can't just throw money at it, but

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Speaker 21: it does help when you have such a big problem.

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Speaker 21: So altogether, from the start of next year we will

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Speaker 21: have a much better use of tax payer money getting

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Speaker 21: children back to school through attendant services and making sure

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Speaker 21: they stay there.

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Speaker 2: Good too, pronged a question out of the were the

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Speaker 2: old agreements you being ripped off or were they just useless?

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Speaker 2: And are the new people better? And do you know

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Speaker 2: they're better? And are the people out there to provide

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Speaker 2: better services or finding people to do the job hard work?

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Speaker 21: Well, first of all, it's just a system that didn't

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Speaker 21: get a lot of attention for a long time. I suspect,

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Speaker 21: so there's some really great people out there. I've met

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Speaker 21: a lot of them. There were some that, frankly, were

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Speaker 21: just useless, and the Aero report was pretty damning in

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Speaker 21: that sense. Do we know we're going to get better? Well,

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Speaker 21: what we've done is started from zero. Nothing's guaranteed, said,

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Speaker 21: these are the criteria, here's your new contracts, here's how

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Speaker 21: we're going to measure the performance, here's your money. We'll

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Speaker 21: be watching. So I hope that that is going to

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Speaker 21: lead to much more consistent and higher performance across the country.

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Speaker 21: So when principals look for the Attendant Service to give

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Speaker 21: them a hand getting children back to school and staying there,

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Speaker 21: the call will be answered a lot more frequently and

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Speaker 21: consistently than it has been.

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Speaker 2: And so how much of it's the attendant service and

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Speaker 2: their efficiency and effectiveness versus the parent who's a dropkick.

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Speaker 21: Well look, I mean there's no question that it's very

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Speaker 21: hard to get this done. And by getting this done,

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Speaker 21: I mean get students back to school at the government's

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Speaker 21: time get rate if the parents don't want to play ball.

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Speaker 21: But what I do know is that good attendant services

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Speaker 21: can get into the home, they can find the barriers,

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Speaker 21: and that's why we've also put aside a small amount

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Speaker 21: of money that they can use for things like transport

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Speaker 21: and uniforms. And sometimes the reason a child won't attend

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Speaker 21: are things you wouldn't expect, you wouldn't think was a

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Speaker 21: big deal, but it is for them. So look, parents'

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Speaker 21: attitudes definitely play a role. But I work on the

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Speaker 21: basis that most people, most of the time are actually

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Speaker 21: trying to make the world work, and we've got to

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Speaker 21: work with them.

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Speaker 2: Lets it works some more. I appreciate your time. David Seymore,

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Speaker 2: Associate Minister of Education. Ten minutes past seven, Paklin the crowd.

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Speaker 2: We're back outside Winston Peter's house. Yesterday they ended up

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Speaker 2: smashing a window. This time comes at a time coincidentally

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Speaker 2: that the government is looking to boost the law around

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Speaker 2: these sort of activity. Submissions have just closed on the

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Speaker 2: criminalizing protests and near private homes. A Graham Edgeler is

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Speaker 2: constitutional law expert. Of course, he's back with It's Graham

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Speaker 2: Morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Smashing windows is already illegal, so the new law won't

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Speaker 2: change anything. Is this one of those crimes that that

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Speaker 2: that the impact on the person is perhaps far greater

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Speaker 2: than any material outworking of the law.

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Speaker 22: I mean, I think quite possibly. I mean that the

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Speaker 22: new offense isn't a particularly serious one, you know in

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Speaker 22: the Summary Offenses Act, which is all sort of the

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Speaker 22: very low level crimes, and so I'm not sure this

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Speaker 22: new offense is going to make that much of a difference.

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Speaker 2: If you can't do something that helps, doesn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: at the moment, most people who stand outside somebody's house

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Speaker 2: banging a drum wouldn't necessarily know they're breaking the law,

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Speaker 2: and they may.

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Speaker 22: Not be, indeed and the game, but equally they may be.

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Speaker 22: I mean, there are offenses which deal with this already.

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Speaker 22: And my suspicion is that the new offense that the draft,

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Speaker 22: at least at the moment, is so complex, perhaps so

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Speaker 22: difficult to prove, you know, was that the reason they're

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Speaker 22: doing that was it, you know, just all the difficulties

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Speaker 22: improving it that the police may just continue to use

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Speaker 22: the criminal offenses that already exist, which kind of have

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Speaker 22: the similar penalties.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: So if we will look, this is coincidental, the Peters

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Speaker 2: thing is coincidental to what the government were already doing.

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Speaker 2: Is this a lesson? And perhaps they've drafted this incorrectly

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Speaker 2: and they might need to. If you were looking to

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Speaker 2: solve a problem, would you do it differently?

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Speaker 22: You probably would a little. I mean, there is some

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Speaker 22: confusion in the way this is drafted. You know, I'm

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Speaker 22: not sure what is covered. I spect police won't be

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Speaker 22: sure what a're covered. And when people aren't sure what's

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Speaker 22: covered and it's a criminal offense, courts tend to err

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Speaker 22: on the side of well, if you wanted to make

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Speaker 22: this clearly i llegal, you'd have done a better job

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Speaker 22: of writing it. So if it's not clear, you tend

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Speaker 22: to favor on the side of the criminal for criminal cases.

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Speaker 22: And so hopefully the government can sort of narrow this

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Speaker 22: and fix it to cover exactly what it is they want.

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Speaker 22: I mean, it's sort of protests near residential areas. I

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Speaker 22: mean Queen Street's got you know, sort of sure, massive

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Speaker 22: massive apartment buildings on it, those residential areas and no

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Speaker 22: protests down Queen Street. I mean, no one's going to

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Speaker 22: apply the law that way. The police are't going to

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Speaker 22: apply that law of the way, the courts are going

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Speaker 22: to apply the law that way, and so is it

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Speaker 22: really going to do much of anything?

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Speaker 2: Interesting? I'm appreciated as always Graham Edgler, who is the

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Speaker 2: constitutional law expert. By the way, thirteen minutes past seven,

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Speaker 2: Cosking justin they've charged a person following that window incident

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Speaker 2: yesterday about eight pm. Man believed to be responsible handed

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Speaker 2: himself in, So congratulations to him. He's twenty nine. He's

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Speaker 2: going to be in the district court on the tenth

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Speaker 2: of October charged with burglary. Interesting. Police recognize the right

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Speaker 2: to lawful protest. However, we will not condone protest action

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Speaker 2: where property is damaged. Police continue to urge protesters to

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Speaker 2: remain within the bounds of the law. And that is

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Speaker 2: the problem, isn't it. What are the bounds of the law?

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Speaker 2: A thirteen past the.

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Speaker 1: High asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: Mike Winston's the deputy senior in the government. He's not

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Speaker 2: the deputy currently obviously our senior in the government cabinet ministers.

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Speaker 2: I think what you're trying to say his home should

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Speaker 2: have police presence. It's I think I'm correct in saying

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Speaker 2: that anybody in the Parliament, particularly in cabinot, can ask

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Speaker 2: for extra security. But it may be coming to the

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Speaker 2: day now where all senior cabinet ministers, because we're such

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Speaker 2: disheveled shambles in terms of discipline in this country, and

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Speaker 2: I mean it's all over the world, but it may

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Speaker 2: well be coming to the day where senior politicians, as

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Speaker 2: far as I know, the only politician in this country

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Speaker 2: gets ongoing police supporters, of course, the Prime Minister. So

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Speaker 2: it may well be coming to the point where we've

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Speaker 2: just got to basically have a cop shadowing everyone in

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Speaker 2: public office, which is pathetic. Anyway, seventeen minutes past seven

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Speaker 2: new data, speaking of democracy, on the magnetism of the

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Speaker 2: local body elections, We're going to end up with a

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Speaker 2: couple of hundred at least who will win unopposed. Got

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Speaker 2: two mayors and nobra eighty councilors already in multiple community

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Speaker 2: board's got no candidates at all now registolts as the

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Speaker 2: Gisbane mayor or so the local government New Zealand VP

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Speaker 2: and with us morning to you, good morning. I find

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Speaker 2: it so depressing. Don't you find this depressing?

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Speaker 9: It is depressing that year in Gisbon we've actually got

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Speaker 9: an active race with thirty people standing for thirteen seats,

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Speaker 9: and we've been around the community. We've had about fifteen

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Speaker 9: community into actions with the Chamber of Commerce, Federated Farmers,

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Speaker 9: at the retirement homes. So in some places there are

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Speaker 9: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Of interest in local bodybot Your numbers are as of

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Speaker 2: yesterday are at twenty three point nine percent turnout. Three

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Speaker 2: quarters of people can't even be bothered.

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Speaker 9: And that's true. We've seen forty percent of people usually

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Speaker 9: vote in local body elections versus the eighty percent and

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Speaker 9: the general elections, and that trend has been going down, down,

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Speaker 9: down since nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, should we if no one stands, should people be

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Speaker 2: elected unopposed? Or is that no longer democracy and we've

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Speaker 2: given up on it and we should just appoint people.

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Speaker 9: I think there are two parts to that we've barely

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Speaker 9: barely ever had a people standing unopposed here. But I

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Speaker 9: know that one lady in one of our rural wards

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Speaker 9: always were unopposed and the reason she was unopposed because

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Speaker 9: she did a bloody fantastic job. So there are two

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Speaker 9: sites to that. There might be apathy and people not

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Speaker 9: wanting to stand there, but there are also people doing

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Speaker 9: great jobs.

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Speaker 2: That's true. That's a fair point. What about because I

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Speaker 2: lived in a ward where that was exactly the case.

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Speaker 2: What about the boards? Now, Glenn, our technical guy, made it,

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Speaker 2: I thought a reasonable point of the people when we

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Speaker 2: say twenty three point nine percent of people have turned

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Speaker 2: out to vote who they voted for in terms of

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Speaker 2: did they just vote for the mayor or do they

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Speaker 2: vote for the community boards as well? And the suggestion

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Speaker 2: would be they're probably mainly voting for the mayor, aren't they.

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Speaker 9: So people, depending where you live, you vote for your mayor.

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Speaker 9: Depending on what ward you live, you would vote either

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Speaker 9: the general ward or the Maori ward and then as

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Speaker 9: there community bought as well, that would be on your

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Speaker 9: voting papers as well as see I know that they

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Speaker 9: actually vote.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know any of these people. I've

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Speaker 2: never heard of them. I don't know, so therefore I go, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. There's people are not going to vote

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Speaker 2: for the mainly end up voting for the mayor.

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Speaker 9: So can I slip that over? Why are you not

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Speaker 9: interested to look at your candidates and find out?

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Speaker 2: No telling you my personal story. What I'm saying is

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Speaker 2: that's how most people, rightly or wrongly. What you're arguing

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Speaker 2: is is, I mean most people don't give them monkeys

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Speaker 2: because they're lazy. That's what it boils down to. They

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Speaker 2: can't be bothered.

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Speaker 9: I think there are several issues affecting it. We're using

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Speaker 9: an old postal system which no one used mailbox as

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Speaker 9: there's no more local newspapers people are, there is apathy,

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Speaker 9: lack of interest, lack of faith in local government and

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Speaker 9: central government. And then also if I know you spoke

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Speaker 9: to the minister before, but I think if we do

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Speaker 9: consistent marketing and administration through the Local Government Commission going

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Speaker 9: forward where everyone knows like the Orange Man, which is

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Speaker 9: consistent with general voting, there would be maybe more interesting there.

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Speaker 9: And then Civics education, we do need to get people

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Speaker 9: more interested because if you vote or not, it is

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Speaker 9: still going to be part of your life.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't Agreemore, couldn't Agreemore nice to talk to Registrlets who

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Speaker 2: is the Gisbane WASH's VP of the New Zealand Government

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Speaker 2: Auckland as of yesterday sixteen percent. I mean it's truly pathetic.

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Speaker 2: Wellington twenty You're stuffed. You can't use your sprinkler in

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Speaker 2: Wellington at the moment because they're so useless. They couldn't

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Speaker 2: the pipes, and yet you can't be bothered voting christ

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Speaker 2: you it's twenty four Nelson twenty six. As I said,

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Speaker 2: Retty is twenty three Southland twenty nine. I mean I

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Speaker 2: go Buller yay thirty six, and that's that's a thing.

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Speaker 2: Mackenzie District is the biggest in the country at thirty

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Speaker 2: eight seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you're a business leader determined to grow profitable

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885
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886
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Speaker 2: twenty four. Now turns out I didn't know this that

887
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: we sell mari kiwifruit as in Kiwifruit as grown by

888
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: people who happen to be Mari and in that is

889
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: part of our ongoing problem with rapes. I would have

890
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: thought now whether a kiwifruit has been grown by someone

891
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: who happens to be Mari. I wouldn't have thought it

892
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: was even a thing any more than a kiwifruit that

893
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: happens to have been grown by, Oh, I don't know,

894
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: a woman, or a family, or an immigrant family or

895
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Speaker 2: anyone else. The differentiating feature of kiwifruit, especially in our

896
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: export markets, is in fact it's from New Zealand, which

897
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: is why we have what they call a single desk system.

898
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: Under the system. The New Zealand story is it's the

899
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: only story. It avoids confusion more you know, from New

900
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: Zealand growers competing with the charther or undercutting each other

901
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: in the international market. A small nation at the bottom

902
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: of the world cannot afford to be sending mixed messages.

903
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: Also goes the thinking, and as far as I can

904
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: work out, the thinking has and is working really well

905
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 2: with our industry. It's now multi billion dollar success story

906
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: in continuing to get larger each season. Except it turns

907
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: out that is part of our trade agreements, there is

908
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: a Maori carve out a special race based exception. Did

909
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: you know this? I didn't now, making this slightly confusing,

910
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 2: I guess is the possible idea that a cultural link

911
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: to an export from a country light New Zealand might

912
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: make a difference or off as some sort of alternative

913
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: narrative if you're looking for market cut through, I don't know.

914
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: But that aside some simple questions, why do we have

915
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: a single desk approach except when we don't? When it

916
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: comes to race, why does race or what does race

917
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: have to do with growing anything? The product's no different,

918
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: it's not growing differently, it's not a different variety. Just

919
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: happens the person growing the fruit wants their race distinguished

920
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: from another person growing the same fruit who isn't of

921
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: the same race. It makes literally no sense. And in

922
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 2: any given market anywhere in the world, the Keywi fruit

923
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: you pick up will not be bought or sold because

924
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 2: of the age, the height, the gender, or the race

925
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: of the grower. It will be bought and sold on

926
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: origin and quality. See a bay of Plenty asks Espbury

927
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: for a regional carve out to a free trade, free trader,

928
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: it would go nowhere for obvious reasons. Why is race

929
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: an exception? Does race make a difference to the amount

930
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: of fruit, any fruit, or any product we sell to

931
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Speaker 2: anyone anywhere? And if the answers know, why is it

932
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: allowed to be a thing? Asking Morning Mike. Back in

933
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 2: the day, not too long ago, we used to arrest

934
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: these dickheads for breach of piece, easy, no charges, just

935
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Speaker 2: held for four hours and the cells and then released

936
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: too easy, It was not, Paul, do you honestly think

937
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: that putting Chloe in the cell for four hours is

938
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Speaker 2: going to solve your problem?

939
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: Went on greta twice.

940
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah it did, didn't it? Hey, Gret has gone away

941
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: quietly with the tail between her legs, hasn't she not?

942
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: And how many times do you want to yet again

943
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: ask yesterday as they did, I reckon the media is

944
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: part of the problem. Chloe holds a stand up yesterday

945
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: and not a single person and asks about her business

946
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: class trip to London. Not one is the media awake

947
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: on any of us? Not one. And the woman Acasia

948
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 2: who was there, she's the rebel rouser outside Winston's place,

949
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: no one asking you difficult questions about that. But if

950
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: you've stuck these people in a cell for four hours,

951
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: do you think the problem would go away? No, it wouldn't.

952
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: There are attention seekers, and I think the only answer

953
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: is to not necessarily give them attention. News for you

954
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: in a couple of months, Chelsea Winter. If you like

955
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: your food, cheese, back with us after eight o'clock this morning.

956
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic Hosking

957
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News

958
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Speaker 1: tog sad.

959
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: Be I didn't expand on it because I couldn't be

960
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: bothered because I'm kind of sick of it, to be

961
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: perfectly honest. But anyway, so there's rolling out of the

962
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: feeds into various cities around America. The latest one was Oregon.

963
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: He had trouble, this is Trump with Scots, said you

964
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 2: can't do it because what you're doing is weaponizing local

965
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: force or enforcement into a national service, and you can't

966
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: do that. So what he was then looking to do

967
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: was roll the Californians out into Oregon. So he didn't

968
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Speaker 2: tap into the national service. He tapped into a local service.

969
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: So he's trying to get around that anyway. Upshot is

970
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: they are in Illinois, in Chicago, and this is Larry Snelling.

971
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Speaker 10: People are using this for their political talking points. Well,

972
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 10: my offices are not political pines. My leadership team not

973
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 10: political pints. Their lives are too important to play politics

974
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 10: with these men and women who face danger every single day.

975
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 10: This is not a game, This is not a joke.

976
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 10: This is still our city, and we still have a

977
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 10: responsibility to maintain safety and calm in our city.

978
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 9: Who want to smooth?

979
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: Could that have been about it? And to make it

980
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: even more ironic, if you were saying, geez, that sounds

981
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: like Obama. Obama was of course from Illinois as well,

982
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: leading to the obvious question, does everyone in an Illinois

983
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: fick like Obama?

984
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 14: Listen?

985
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 2: The only time we're going to hear that question, asked

986
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: and Radio today. Twenty two minutes away from eight, the

987
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 2: bake battle rolls on. Health New Zealand is currently in

988
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: a procurement process. They want regulated partners to supply bake

989
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: kits to people looking to quit. So the government's going

990
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: to pay for your vaping now. The pods would range

991
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: from zero to twenty eight point five megs of nicotine.

992
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: It would come yes, that's right, in three flavors, menthol cinnamon,

993
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: and blueberry, Health Health News. Health News Zia won't tell

994
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 2: us whether this is a continuation of its earlier pilot

995
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: program or not. Anyway, Doctor Kelly Burrows is the lead

996
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: researcher're in vaping for the Auckland University Bioengineering Institute and

997
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: is with us Kelly morning.

998
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 23: Good morning.

999
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 9: I'm glad that you are laughing about it as well.

1000
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: Well, what else can we do? I mean, what else

1001
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: exactly for goodness sake? So what's the state of vaping

1002
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: as you under standard in this country? Is are we

1003
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: winning or not?

1004
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 23: I do not think we are winning. So in New

1005
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 23: Zealand we've got some of the highest vaping rates in

1006
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Speaker 23: the world and it's very much because the government and

1007
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 23: now Health New Zealand are really promoting vaping and supporting

1008
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 23: it as a kind of healthier product. I mean, it

1009
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 23: hopefully is healthier than smoking, but that's not a very

1010
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 23: high benchmark because smoking is one of the worst things

1011
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 23: in the world for you. But the fact is that

1012
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 23: we don't know what the long term health effects are

1013
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 23: of vaping. But there are many, many studies coming out

1014
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 23: every day that are showing that there are negative health

1015
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 23: effects in the short term and even in the medium term. Now,

1016
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 23: so I think, I mean, I think just by supporting

1017
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 23: these products, it's really I mean up something that's really uncertain.

1018
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 23: I mean around the world, the World Health Organization a

1019
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 23: similar organization in the US and the UK. You know,

1020
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 23: they don't support vaping for smoking station programs, other recommended

1021
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 23: you know, there are approved methods that are safe to

1022
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 23: help people get off smoking. So yeah, I think our

1023
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 23: House New Zealand's a ready sending the wrong message by

1024
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 23: supporting these products and now paying for them. But I

1025
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 23: also think the flavorings you know that you laughed at that.

1026
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: That's insane, that's absolutely the same.

1027
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 23: Actually, cinnamon is one of the you know, one of

1028
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 23: the flavoring additives that's been found to be quite toxic

1029
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 23: to cells and sort of sell theose studies. I mean

1030
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 23: around the world, a lot of countries are starting to

1031
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 23: ban all flavors apart from tobacco flavorings, and you know,

1032
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 23: I think that that's the approach we should go. And

1033
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 23: I think also, I mean in Australia, they've sort of

1034
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 23: got a pharmaceutical vape right, so that's a very regulated,

1035
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 23: well understood VAP product that is sort of registered as

1036
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 23: medical device. I mean, I think if Houth New Zealand

1037
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Speaker 23: wants to take this approach, we need to. We can't

1038
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 23: just be buying them from vape companies not really knowing

1039
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 23: what's in them. It needs to be copper.

1040
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how politically whether this is your wheelhouse

1041
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: or not. But Casey Costello, who's sort of in charge

1042
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: of all of this, has been under fire for the

1043
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: last couple of years with her general approach to this

1044
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: is is that part of the problem or is that

1045
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: completely separate? Do you think?

1046
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1047
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 23: I don't know. I do think there's some suspicious stuff

1048
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 23: going on those, you know, the heat not burn products

1049
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 23: that she was supporting. There's no evidence that those are

1050
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 23: healthier than smoking. So there's not really much health research

1051
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 23: on those products. Yeah, So I don't know. It does

1052
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 23: things to seem weird. I mean, if the government was

1053
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 23: really focused on the smoke free vision, you know, why

1054
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 23: did they repeal those smoke free laws which were really

1055
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 23: world leading and you know people were kind of in

1056
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 23: are of them. So and we've got rid of those

1057
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 23: and yet we're supporting vaping and I mean vaping rates

1058
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 23: are really high. You know, as many as one and

1059
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 23: four people are vaping daily.

1060
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Australian pharmacy approach. Are they doing something a

1061
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: little bit better than us?

1062
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Speaker 9: Yes, they are.

1063
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 23: So they've sort of got a prescription only vape. Yeah,

1064
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 23: and it's very regulated, it's very controlled. They've done all

1065
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 23: the toxicology, you know. They know it's got one flavor,

1066
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 23: a controlled dose. It's sort of in a boring package device,

1067
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 23: you know, So it's very much promoted as a smoking

1068
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 23: cessation pharmaceutical device. I mean, I know that in Australia

1069
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 23: you can still buy vates and you know, pretty easily.

1070
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 23: But I think at least the government and the health

1071
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 23: sector over there are sending out the right message that

1072
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 23: it's you know, vaping is for smoking to station. It's

1073
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 23: not a recreational product, and we don't know what the

1074
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 23: long term health effects will be, but there is going

1075
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 23: to be some negative health implications for sure, no question.

1076
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Speaker 2: Let's doctor Kelly appreciated, Doctor Kelly Burrows, who's lead researcher

1077
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: and voping from the University of Auckland Bioengineering Institute, eighteen

1078
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: minutes away from Mate. I do not when we ran

1079
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: Casey Costello's office last night, the bloke who handles Casey

1080
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: Costello's affairs, what would we say, went off as head

1081
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Speaker 2: a bit. I think we went off as head a bit.

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00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 3: As he was he dying for a smoke and he done.

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00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: He started swearing on the phone to us. Apparently old

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Speaker 2: Andy got an ear full. Is that abuse? Should we

1085
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: arrest them? No windows were smashed, so I suppose it's different,

1086
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 2: isn't it. By the way, a very interesting insight into

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Speaker 2: why once again I reiterate my advice take it or

1088
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: leave it. Watch the Prime minister's post cabinet press conference,

1089
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: because in the Herald this morning is the headline. Government

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00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: agencies warned large Crown board fee hikes couldn't pack services

1091
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: and worsen cost pressures. There's your headline. I'll tell you

1092
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: the real story next seventeen to two.

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00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: The Vike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power

1094
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: by News Talks, it'd be yes.

1095
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 2: It's interesting to fourteen away from eight. So the headline,

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00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: and this comes from government advice. Government agencies warned large

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00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: Crown board fee hikes couldn't pack services and worse than

1098
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 2: cost pressures. So you go, oh, my lord, we're already

1099
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: type for money as it is our frontline services. This

1100
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: came up in the Prime Minister's post cabinet press conference yesterday.

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00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: Somebody asked, will will essential services be cut?

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00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 14: Now?

1103
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: What you got to understand, and this is where the

1104
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 2: media lacks a little bit of detail, new and subtlety

1105
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: these days. There I suggest also some experience in professionalism

1106
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: is you've got to understand how these things work. So

1107
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: there is a predilection within the media to literally reprint

1108
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: everything a government agency. Right, So in other words, a

1109
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: government agency offers you a range of views. They'll tell

1110
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: you something's brilliant, they'll tell you something's dreadful, and they'll

1111
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: tell you several versions in between. And that is for

1112
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: you as a minister to look at and just be

1113
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: covered off to go, h, what are my options here?

1114
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 2: That's all they're there for. I mean, they're not there

1115
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: to tell you to do anything. Because you are the ministry,

1116
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want.

1117
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 14: Now.

1118
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: Luckson's point was this, if you haven't been aware, they're

1119
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: looking to increase the fees that they pay directors in

1120
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: public entities, and they need to because the fees are

1121
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: a joke and unless you pay something half decent, you're

1122
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: not going to get anyone any good to do the job.

1123
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: Now they're not paying anywhere close to commercial levels, but

1124
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: nevertheless they want to make it a little bit better

1125
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: than it has been. Now Luson made a very good

1126
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: point yesterday which as far as I can work out,

1127
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: no one's covered. So his point was this, you don't

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00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: need everyone gets alarmed or no our essentral service is

1129
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: going to be cut. No, they're not. Because one of

1130
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: the examples he gave yesterday was classrooms. So the Ministry

1131
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: of Education has X number of dollars for classrooms, and

1132
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: it used to be under the Labour government that a

1133
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,959
Speaker 2: classroom would cost on average one point two million dollars

1134
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 2: per classroom, which seems an astonishing amount of money. Do

1135
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: you know why? Because it was and they looked into

1136
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: it and what they've got it down to was six

1137
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a classroom. So they've got the same budget,

1138
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: but they're getting twice as many classrooms. So can you

1139
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: do more with the same amount. So you've got two

1140
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: different mentalities there. You've got the mentality that we've got

1141
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: X number of dollars and therefore we must be at

1142
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: peaks spend therefore there is no more room. And if

1143
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: you spend something on something else, therefore something else suffer.

1144
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: Is not true. You can spend the same amount of

1145
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: money more efficiently, and that's the point he was making.

1146
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: And that's the nuance subtly that you will get if

1147
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: you watch the whole thing live, as opposed to relying

1148
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: on just the media. In other words, you become the media.

1149
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Next, one fact I have for

1150
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: you is the NRL Final on Sunday Night was the

1151
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: most watched thing in television this year in Australia, perhaps

1152
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: not surprisingly four point four to six million people. Did

1153
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: it beat the AFL, which has traditionally been the most

1154
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: popular sporting event of the year. Yes, it did four

1155
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: point one. But here's the really interesting thing for us,

1156
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: although we could watch it as well. The really interesting

1157
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: thing for us was the women's Grand Final had hundreds

1158
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: of thousands more viewers than the All Blacks Test, and

1159
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: that gives you an insight into how much trouble rugby's

1160
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,479
Speaker 2: in the women's Grand Final. Not to dismiss women, don't

1161
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: go down that track, but let's be blunt. A women's

1162
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 2: final is not the same as a men's final in NRL.

1163
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, they drummed up well in excess of a

1164
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 2: million viewers. The Wallabies All Black Test only got eight

1165
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety thousand tend.

1166
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Speaker 1: Away the mic asking breakfast with a Vita retirement news tosadvs.

1167
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: For that question, Mike, of these idiots and guards are

1168
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: being charged for New Zealand in fat services as they're

1169
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: under advice not to go, Yeah, I will know the

1170
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: answer is now. Of course they won't be charged, but

1171
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: for all the bleeding that was going on yesterday. The

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00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: other thing I haven't no one's asked either is why

1173
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: do they continue to protest and talk as though nothing

1174
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: has changed. Something I would argue has materially changed in

1175
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: the last week. And that is happening as we speak

1176
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: in Egypt, and it's called a peace deal.

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00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 18: Now.

1178
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: It may not be the ideal peace deal, it may

1179
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: not come to anything, but for right now, there is

1180
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: a general expectation that all the things that they're complaining

1181
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: about will be coming to an end within days. Hostages

1182
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 2: will be returned, the bombing will stop, and we may

1183
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: well have a peace deal. So they're sort of talking

1184
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: as though none of that really matters. And I know

1185
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 2: that they've never done anything as regards acknowledging what Trump

1186
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: has done. Heaven forbid they do that, and getting the

1187
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 2: process to this particular point in time now as regard

1188
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: yards tomorrow. Will be spending some time on this tomorrow

1189
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: because it's critically important. It affects every single one of

1190
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: US Reserve Bank cash rate Christian hawksby penultimate time out?

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00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: Do you think you'll dress differently for it? Where do

1192
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: you go from the Reserve Bank? Where's Christian going? Do

1193
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: you reckon? Anyway? Because it's one of those things. Do

1194
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: you leave when you apply for the job and you

1195
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: say you applied for the job? And I thought that

1196
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: was interesting because the last time he was out publicly,

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00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: somebody quite rightly said have you applied for the job?

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00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 2: And instead of going, well, look that's a private matter

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Speaker 2: and we'll leave that for another day, he went, yes,

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00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: I have. And so the moment you've said that and

1201
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: acknowledged that publicly, then obviously we all know you applied

1202
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: for the job and you didn't get the job. Why

1203
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,479
Speaker 2: do you leave? Is it because you're frustrated and thought

1204
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: one they made a mistaken or you were just going

1205
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: to leave anyway if you didn't get the job, because

1206
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: you got bigger fish to frayales where anyway? So penultimate tomorrow,

1207
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: four of the seven economists, the major economists asb Westpac

1208
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: quey bank and infor metrics say fifty the B and

1209
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: ZDA and z the n z IA twenty five. So

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00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: we don't have consensus. We have consensus there's a cut coming,

1211
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: but we don't have consensus on fifty or twenty five.

1212
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: And the arguments for and against the fifty equally balanced.

1213
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: In other words, can you mount something reasonably decent to

1214
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: say it should be fifty, Yes you can. Can you

1215
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: mount something reasonably dessnant to say, look, hold on that

1216
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: all this stuff that we've talked to flowing through into

1217
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: the economy will arrive eventually. Therefore, you don't want to

1218
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: overcook it and have to retract it at a later day.

1219
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: Yes you can. So she's a finely And somebody talked

1220
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: about it, and I thought the most interesting thing about

1221
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: it was what they called sticker shock. So, in other words,

1222
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: since last time, they have been taking a pounding the

1223
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: Monetary Policy Committee. And remember they had a four to

1224
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 2: two vote, two for fifty. So those two go back,

1225
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: if they had any gonads, they go back into the

1226
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: room and go, hey, idiots, I told you wouldn't they

1227
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: get a bit tense behind the room, behind the closed doors,

1228
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: And so do they have sticker shock. In other words,

1229
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 2: go bugger, we blew it, and therefore we need to

1230
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: go fifty when really they may not need to, which

1231
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: brings us to Adrian and four hundred and sixteen, one

1232
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty dollars. And the problem with this is

1233
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: twofold one. The main blok who wrote the check quickly gone.

1234
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 2: Main bloker got the check gone. And then you asked

1235
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: the Prime minister yesterday what about it? And he goes, well,

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00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: it's not nothing to do with me. They're independent. What

1237
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: do you do? No, it's so once again no one

1238
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: gets held to account. So some guy comes in on

1239
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: a million plus he was on one point one eighty

1240
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: two let's call it one point two is on one

1241
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: point two million. He did what he did to the economy,

1242
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: packed a big sad, stamped his feet. They were about

1243
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: to sack him, and then he said, thanks very much

1244
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: four hundred and sixteen thousand dollars. I'll see you in

1245
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: the Cook Islands. No one held to account.

1246
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 3: News for you.

1247
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: In a couple of moments, then Chelsea Winter on the

1248
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 2: make costing.

1249
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: Break Personazari asking the questions others won't the mic asking

1250
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: breakfast with the land Rover Defender, Embrace the Impossible News,

1251
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: togs dea'd be.

1252
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: Seven pasts right now. Chelsea Winter's last book, Tasty, was

1253
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: the biggest selling book of the year at this time.

1254
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: A little bit of a change where back involved with

1255
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 2: meat and bairy nourishes what it's called it to eke

1256
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: the book and Chelsea Winters whether say very good morning,

1257
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: good morning, and delightful to see you. We had Nadier

1258
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 2: limon the other day and I was talking to here

1259
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 2: about publishing, publishing in general, because I'm endlessly fascinated about it.

1260
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: So several questions around publishing and cookbooks. Do you know

1261
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: the people who buy your books whether they actually use them,

1262
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: like as a cookbook successful because of the recipes in

1263
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: its use or you buy a cookbook because it's a thing.

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01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 19: Well, I mean, I'm sure both both are true. I

1265
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 19: have the privilege of being able to be connected to

1266
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 19: a lot of the people who buy my books through

1267
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 19: my social media. I have four hundred and followers on Facebook,

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01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 19: and they send me photos of what they cook, and

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01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 19: they send me messages thanking me. And my books have

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01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 19: always been created with the intention that they are to

1271
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 19: be used. You know, it's not a copy table book.

1272
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 19: Although they are beautiful, it's like, especially Narash this one.

1273
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 19: It is a practical, everyday resource to help people in

1274
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 19: the kitchen. It's' that's what I'm here to do.

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01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: So where do you reckon? We are then, so excepting

1276
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: that people use them and they cook and they still

1277
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: like cooking, where do you reckon? We are in this

1278
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: business of the battle of eating rubbish food and getting

1279
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: obese and having diabetes versus being at home using good

1280
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: ingredients and making good food. We're winning that battle.

1281
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 19: I actually have no idea, but would I would say

1282
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 19: that with the number of people that are buying cookbooks,

1283
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 19: because cookbooks are very successful at the moment, people are

1284
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 19: cooking and eating at home, I would say, like more

1285
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 19: than ever. And depending on what book you're using, yeah,

1286
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 19: it's homemade's always going to be best.

1287
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: How do you tell your recipes? I mean, how complicated

1288
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: do you make them? Do you have a recipe for

1289
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: the recipe?

1290
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 19: I mean, I think part of why the reason my

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Speaker 19: books are so successful is because the recipes are easy

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Speaker 19: to follow because I write them, and you know, there

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Speaker 19: is an art to writing a recipe. It's not just

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Speaker 19: like a few sentences going debt debt like they used

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Speaker 19: to be in the old days. I write them in

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Speaker 19: a way where I know that the reader at home,

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Speaker 19: even if I'm not like confident in the kitchen, can

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Speaker 19: go okay, I get what she's saying here. And I

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Speaker 19: write them as a conversation. I write them as if

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Speaker 19: I'm there in the kitchen with them, and I think

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Speaker 19: that is hugely important, as important as having a beautiful

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Speaker 19: image next to it.

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Speaker 2: How long does that take to formulate a recipe?

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Speaker 19: It takes a long time, like putting a book together,

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Speaker 19: writing one hundred recipes. I write them all myself, and

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Speaker 19: I test them all myself several times. It's months and

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Speaker 19: months and woll yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that's dedication to the task you reckon You're getting

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Speaker 2: better at it.

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Speaker 19: Yes, yes, And that's why I feel so excited about Nourish,

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Speaker 19: because you know, it's my eighth book, and it's a

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Speaker 19: culmination of everything I've learned over the last thirteen years,

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Speaker 19: but also the person I've become. And there's a purpose

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Speaker 19: behind this book. Now, it's not just like, oh look

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Speaker 19: I wont master chef. I'm going to put out a book.

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Speaker 9: Isn't this fun?

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Speaker 19: This is what am I here to do, Like why

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Speaker 19: am I doing this? I'm doing it to empower people

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Speaker 19: in the kitchen, to uplift them and inspire them, to

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Speaker 19: help them nourish their families in a way that's accessible

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Speaker 19: and easeful and joyful.

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Speaker 2: And do you reckon you would have done it if

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Speaker 2: you'd never been on Mastership?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 19: This really good question. I actually don't know.

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Speaker 13: I don't know.

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Speaker 19: I mean I would have probably found my way to

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Speaker 19: it somehow with where I'm stepping into now. But what

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Speaker 19: I have eight cookbooks under them about?

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Speaker 2: Well no, see that's what fascinates me. But see, reality

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Speaker 2: television isn't what it was when you want Mastership. It's

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Speaker 2: not the same thing anymore, sadly, is it. And so

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Speaker 2: at one point you could argue that reality television served

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Speaker 2: a decent purpose. And if you go, say to Master

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Speaker 2: Chef in Britain, there was at least one New Zealander

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Speaker 2: from memory who ended up opening his own restaurant, So

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Speaker 2: it became a real It was a genuine springboard for

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Speaker 2: people with genuine talent to go to a place they

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Speaker 2: wanted to go to. And you're a good example of

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Speaker 2: using your success out of that to land somewhere whereas

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Speaker 2: now I just worry that, you know, it's just about

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Speaker 2: getting a profile or boosting your social media and it's

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Speaker 2: not the same.

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Speaker 19: It's not the same. And I think what people respond

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Speaker 19: to at the end of the day is always the

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Speaker 19: same thing. It's the heart behind things, it's the authenticity,

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Speaker 19: and it's what you're creating. People are sick of just

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Speaker 19: seeing and you know, they want something with substance. They

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Speaker 19: want something they can connect to, that they can relate to,

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Speaker 19: and that they can trust. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 19: that is what I strive to be like with what

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Speaker 19: I'm doing, and I always have.

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Speaker 2: All right, listen, just hold on for two seconds. Chelsea

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Speaker 2: Winters with us more shortly twelve past eight the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio News.

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Speaker 2: TALKSPY News Talks fourteen past eight Chelsea Winters, I guess

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Speaker 2: Nourish is her eighth new book, speaking book. Do you

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Speaker 2: self publish? No, I don't, so have you thought about that?

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Speaker 2: I have, indeed, so so for your model as somebody

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Speaker 2: else does it for you in that sense, and that

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Speaker 2: works for you just the reason Nadia self publishes. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm just trying to work out what's the

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Speaker 2: best path to publishing success.

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Speaker 19: I think for me it was just a capacity thing, right,

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Speaker 19: you know, I'm a solo mum now with two kids,

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Speaker 19: and just for me personally, up until now, self publishing

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Speaker 19: hasn't been an option because I just don't have the capacity.

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Speaker 19: I my time and energy is better spent creating what

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Speaker 19: I'm creating rather than managing all that other stuff, which

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Speaker 19: is monumental, the amount that goes on behind the scenes,

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Speaker 19: Like without my publisher, I don't know where i'd be

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Speaker 19: publishers and so yeah, for me, that's what's worked. In

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Speaker 19: the future, I don't know, well I self published possibly,

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Speaker 19: I'm just going to see where it goes.

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Speaker 2: Do you go with trends in terms of food or not,

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Speaker 2: you know what's currently hot.

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Speaker 19: But it's always been my policy, like I don't follow

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Speaker 19: things just because they're hot. I'm not really interested in

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Speaker 19: fads or food trends. What I'm interested in what feels

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Speaker 19: good and aligned and right to me. Because my books

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01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 19: have always been an extension of who I am and

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Speaker 19: where I'm at at a certain point in my life.

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Speaker 19: That's the honesty behind the books and what I genuinely

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Speaker 19: feel is a good ingredient to start including in a

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Speaker 19: recipe because I've experienced it myself, then I'll put it in,

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Speaker 19: not just because someone sees it on the news or

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Speaker 19: I've read it in the paper somewhere.

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Speaker 2: No, okay, so I think what a vegan?

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Speaker 19: Yes? No, well, I mean I've the two books before

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Speaker 19: Narrow So nourishes are returned to meet eggs and dead. Ye,

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Speaker 19: the two books before, we're plant based. Because I was

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Speaker 19: on a plant based journey myself, right, which I'm very

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Speaker 19: glad I did. No regret, no regrets. I learned a lot,

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Speaker 19: I gained a lot health wives, and I came to

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Speaker 19: understand so much more about where our ingredients come from

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Speaker 19: and how important it is to be discerning, like if

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Speaker 19: you're eating meat, eat metal. Yeah exactly. So I just

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Speaker 19: feel like I'm on a whole new platform now bringing

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Speaker 19: them back in with reverence and intention. Organic if you

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Speaker 19: can afford it one hundred percent. If you can't, then

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Speaker 19: that's okay. I don't buy organic everything, but if I

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Speaker 19: can afford it, sometimes I think one hundred percent it

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Speaker 19: is always the best choice.

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Speaker 2: And what about cost? As an expert on food, what

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Speaker 2: would you describe the market like in terms of feeding

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Speaker 2: a family or buying food. Is there a cost of

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Speaker 2: living crisis? Is it unaffordable or if you know what

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Speaker 2: you're doing you can get buy.

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Speaker 19: I think it's pretty undeniable that there is a cost

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Speaker 19: of living crisis. I think that's something that we're all

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Speaker 19: feeling in all different ways. And yeah, food is more

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Speaker 19: expensive than it's ever been, So I think it's a

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Speaker 19: matter again of being discerning what you know, what can

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Speaker 19: you do without and what is the smarter choice to

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Speaker 19: actually spend the money on, you know, and then just

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Speaker 19: comes down to that and we all just do the best.

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Speaker 2: We can the point of a recipe. So in there

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Speaker 2: is homemade chocolate. Is chocolate worth homemaking as opposed to

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Speaker 2: just buying a bar of it?

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Speaker 19: Some people would say so. Some people will do it

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Speaker 19: because it's fun, for the novelty factor, because they want

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Speaker 19: to do it with their children. And some people like

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Speaker 19: me will do it even though I've got a bar

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Speaker 19: what because you know, always always in the fridge, because

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Speaker 19: it's really really hard to find chocolate that is refined,

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Speaker 19: sugar free, that's actually young.

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Speaker 2: Most of it tastes awful, that's true.

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Speaker 19: So you know, there was there was a gap, there

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Speaker 19: was something missing, and so I created it. And that's

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Speaker 19: what I've done a lot in Irish.

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Speaker 2: The wellness thing. I read that with interest and I thought,

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Speaker 2: I thought, what a snide, horrible thing for it. And

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Speaker 2: that was funny enough. That was a Radio New Zealand story,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it. And so that that came for people who

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Speaker 2: didn't understand you. You do a wellness retreat and people

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Speaker 2: pay money and you go off and you do whatever

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Speaker 2: you do it your wellness retreat, and that's that's fine.

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Speaker 2: That's but they seem to attack that as like a

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Speaker 2: problem and.

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Speaker 19: It's very interesting to it.

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Speaker 2: Did that come out of nowhere? I mean, in other words,

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Speaker 2: it's not news. It it wasn't news. Isn't news. It's like,

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Speaker 2: if you want to do a wellness retreat, do a

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Speaker 2: wellness retreat, what do I care?

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Speaker 15: Well?

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Speaker 19: I think it speaks to an issue that is quite clear,

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Speaker 19: like why did it get so much attention? Why is

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Speaker 19: it then when a woman is doing something to help

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Speaker 19: empower other women that it becomes something that needs to

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Speaker 19: be torn down?

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Speaker 2: Like why is it? Like I'm assuming I was assuming

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Speaker 2: it's a tall, poppy thing, because you can't be the

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Speaker 2: first person who we have invented a wellness In fact,

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Speaker 2: I know you're not the first person who's ever in

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Speaker 2: a wellness retreat, so therefore maybe it's about you. So

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Speaker 2: you're it's the tall, poppy thing.

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Speaker 19: Well, it's like, stay in your lane, little lady. What

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Speaker 19: are you doing over here? Like why are you doing this?

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Speaker 19: It's like, well, you know, we all evolve, we all

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Speaker 19: have certain areas that we are stepping into, and for me,

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Speaker 19: these wellness of treats and this is only the first one. Okay,

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Speaker 19: this is the first of many. This is somewhere where

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Speaker 19: I'm going, and I'm going deep and there will be

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Speaker 19: many more. And this is like, it's literally a calling

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Speaker 19: for me. It's the most heart led creation that I've

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Speaker 19: ever done. It is just it's where I'm going and

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Speaker 19: it's very, very exciting. So you know, I don't mind

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Speaker 19: the conversation around it. I think it was really eliminating.

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Speaker 2: Are you a business person in that sense? Because I

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Speaker 2: looked at your website and you've got the knives? No

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Speaker 2: one loves knives more than I do. A high quality

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01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 2: knife is a wonderful thing. So you're doing the knives

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Speaker 2: and you're doing all sorts of bit. So this is

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Speaker 2: a this is a business outside of publishing and books

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 19: Well, it's it's it's a cyventia. It's it's you know,

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Speaker 19: people are so fixated on this business thing. Like a

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Speaker 19: prominent New Zealand man had done a wee pivot and

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Speaker 19: you know, let's say created something along the same lines

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Speaker 19: as what I've created. Would it have even got media attention?

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Speaker 19: Would we be even having this conversation right now?

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Speaker 6: No?

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01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: No, it is my guess, no exactly.

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Speaker 19: So what's the problem here is, well.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the problems just some people clearly did

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Speaker 2: for a period of time. Are you living the dream?

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01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 19: Well I feel I am, And like success is determined individually, right,

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Speaker 19: some people have a different idea of what success is.

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Speaker 19: My idea of success is living what my authenticity and

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01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,520
Speaker 19: in my truth and in my power and in alignment

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Speaker 19: and doing something, getting paid for something, making a living

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Speaker 19: off something that feels like purpose, that feels like what

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01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 19: I'm here to be doing, and that is exactly what

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Speaker 19: I am doing. So in that sense, I've actually never

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Speaker 19: been happier. Then there's nothing else I would rather be

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Speaker 19: doing than exactly what I'm doing right now.

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Speaker 2: We can't argue with that, can you? Delightful to see you?

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Speaker 2: Thank you So Chelsea Winter Nourish is the book. Want

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Speaker 2: to go to Melbourne stand by eight twenty one.

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Speaker 1: With the Mic Hosking, breakfast with the land Rover Defender

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Speaker 1: and use Tom's dead b.

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Speaker 2: Trotter or zoe Elbond first and best dressed, Newstalk saidb

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Speaker 2: Britain obviously with the Manchester three days after a terror

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Speaker 2: attack on one of the synagogues, British Jews are talking

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Speaker 2: about something they would have dismissed a few years ago,

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Speaker 2: leaving their country for somewhere safer. Tristing article I read

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Speaker 2: in an Australian newspaper ironically yesterday. We'll talk more about

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Speaker 2: this and other matters in Britain after the news which

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Speaker 1: Ive, opinionated, informed, una apologetic, the mic asking breakfast with

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Speaker 2: Looss Trotter's in the draw, Well done, Ross and first

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Speaker 2: twenty three minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 2: Great Roderick Little as well as Rod Morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you. Makee so Jahard British citizen Syrian descent,

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Speaker 2: lived in Manchester for at least a decade, So thanks

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Speaker 2: for coming. We'll give you a citizenship mate. And then

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Speaker 2: you go shoot some people. And not only that, he

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Speaker 2: was on bail for a rape charge. I mean, jeez,

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Speaker 2: how do you dig yourself politically? How do you dig

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Speaker 2: yourself out of that?

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Speaker 12: It's a it's a massive story here. It's not simply

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Speaker 12: the fact that he murdered people and chose Tres A

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Speaker 12: synagogue to do his murdering, but also it's reignited a

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Speaker 12: really corrosive, very divisive divide between the marchers who are

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Speaker 12: marching in in in support of Palestine and those who

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Speaker 12: are aghast that they would do such a thing In

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Speaker 12: Manchester on the very day after he was killed. You know,

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Speaker 12: so after but jihad family did his killing. So those

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Speaker 12: the government and the opposition, though not the Green Party

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Speaker 12: or the Liberal Democrats see not one member of the

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Speaker 12: of the Palestin and in interviewed said I don't let's

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Speaker 12: give him back.

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Speaker 2: Let's get let's get a better line hold on. Rod

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Speaker 2: will get you back in a couple of moments. He's

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Speaker 2: I think he's in Amsterdam at the moment, on the

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Speaker 2: important on his way back. But just to quite this article,

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Speaker 2: I was reading yesterday's Canastrikee. A guy called these he's

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Speaker 2: quoting a guy called Michael Cohen who's sixty five. He

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Speaker 2: and his friends feel prejudiced against Jews. This is in

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Speaker 2: Britain against Jews, has riched labels. He has never witnessed

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Speaker 2: in a lifetime. And sorry, Rod, I think we've got

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Speaker 2: you back here with us. Yeah, I'm with you, Okay,

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Speaker 2: my sincere apologies now, so just carry on, tell us

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Speaker 2: the story and where it's at.

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Speaker 12: Well, you're absolutely right that members of the Jewish community

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Speaker 12: have been saying they simply don't feel safe in Britain anymore.

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Speaker 12: And there's been a number of articles in the newspapers,

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Speaker 12: including at Times, which is you know, liberal center paper

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Speaker 12: from authors of writers with the Jewish back of that matters.

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Speaker 2: See let's give that a go and come back after

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Speaker 2: the break. It's nineteen minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 2: And now rods begwhethers hopefully rod our apologies for the connection,

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Speaker 2: just finish up the story. And I was quoting while

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Speaker 2: we were trying to reconnect you a piece of read

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Speaker 2: in the Australian media yesterday about Jews in London suggesting

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Speaker 2: that they have never felt this level of fear, or

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Speaker 2: Jews in Britain generally have never felt this level of

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Speaker 2: fear and it might well be for the first time

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Speaker 2: in their lifetime they're going to have to leave the

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Speaker 2: country and find somewhere that they perceived to be a

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Speaker 2: bit safer. Would you suggest that's.

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Speaker 14: Real, without question, without any question at all. I mean,

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Speaker 14: it's certainly been the case since I think about ten years,

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Speaker 14: we've lost fifty thousand Jewish people who have left the

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Speaker 14: country because they feel increasingly under threat. And it's gone

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Speaker 14: in harmless of course, with the vast increase in the

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Speaker 14: number of Muslim people who are in the country as well,

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Speaker 14: which is not to say, obviously that all Muslims are

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Speaker 14: hostile to Jews, but there has been a hostility on

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Speaker 14: the part of some community leaders and some within the

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Speaker 14: Muslim community towards Jews, and people are moving out, there's

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Speaker 14: no question. I did an article about it for Sunday

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Speaker 14: Times a couple of years ago, and they're moving to

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Speaker 14: Israel primarily. But goodness me, this will have exacerbated it,

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Speaker 14: not simply the killings, but the reaction from the left

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Speaker 14: to the killings, which is, we don't care. We're going

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Speaker 14: to continue shouting about Palestine.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, which brings us to bed knock in the

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Speaker 2: conference that they're having at the moment, and who's suggesting

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Speaker 2: as really have the weekend. I can't remember the actual law,

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Speaker 2: but they need to do something about the human rights

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Speaker 2: law so that the boat people aren't the problem of

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Speaker 2: the past. But can they do it? Will they do it?

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Speaker 2: And are they sort of stuck? Are they the meat

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Speaker 2: and the political sandwich at the moment of this whole

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Speaker 2: of the boat.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, they can do it. What they want to do

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Speaker 14: is with from the European Convention on Human Rights, which

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Speaker 14: was drawn up in the late forties and essentially held

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Speaker 14: governments to a level of behavior which is just utterly

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Speaker 14: irrelevant now because there wasn't the level of immigration we

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Speaker 14: had then that there is now, So they can withdraw

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Speaker 14: from it. But I don't think it answers their problems,

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Speaker 14: because the problem isn't really the ECCHR. It's the human

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Speaker 14: rights lawyers, the people who are in charge of the

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Speaker 14: tribunals over here, who are usually human rights lawyers, who

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Speaker 14: just keep saying no, you can't send them back. It's

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Speaker 14: a domestic and structural problem with the judiciary over here

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Speaker 14: rather than one dependent upon a supernational legislation.

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Speaker 2: How about the polls she got. I suppose the only

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Speaker 2: advantage of that particular pole for Badenock was that Stamer

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Speaker 2: was about as popular and the breathing down his neck,

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Speaker 2: So you know both.

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Speaker 14: Leader is not popular, Yeah, I mean, but she's not popular,

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Speaker 14: not because of a catalog of failures. You could level

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Speaker 14: at a lack of dynamism in leading the party. But

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Speaker 14: I don't think she's I don't think she's wildly unpopular

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Speaker 14: with the Tory faithful in the way that Sakis Starmer

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Speaker 14: is with the Labor faithful, and I don't think that

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Speaker 14: there's quite the number of people queuing up on the

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Speaker 14: Tory backbenches to get rid of her than for example,

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Speaker 14: there is on the Labour benches trying to get rid

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Speaker 14: of Sakis Starama. I think she's got a few more

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Speaker 14: years in her yet. But to be honest, the tours

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Speaker 14: are almost an irrelevancy in voting at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the interesting thing.

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Speaker 10: I mean.

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Speaker 2: The poll also suggests the amount of enthusiasm for some

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Speaker 2: sort of arrangement with the Reform Party within the Tories.

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Speaker 2: Is that a good idea, Is that something that's welcomed

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Speaker 2: or is that more a public view of the world.

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Speaker 14: Well, I think there will be some sort of informal deal,

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Speaker 14: and certainly some sort of deal if Reform wins the election.

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Speaker 14: There's a long way to go yet. And there was

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Speaker 14: a story broken only yesterday in the papers, which is

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Speaker 14: that Reform is putting up the council tax in one

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Speaker 14: of the councils it were, which is Kent County Council

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Speaker 14: where I used to live. As it happens, that is

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Speaker 14: really really bad news for Reform. They haven't been able

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Speaker 14: to make the budget cuts they said they were going

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Speaker 14: to do. They haven't been able to put more money

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Speaker 14: in the pockets of their ratepayers. If that's kind of

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Speaker 14: echoed around the country, then that is a problem for

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Speaker 14: reform and the Tories might start to climb again. Who knows.

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Speaker 2: Did you know Julie Cooper by the way, No.

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Speaker 14: I didn't. No, not my neck of the literary woods,

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Speaker 14: I'm afraid, but enormously popular here, enormously popular amongst people

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Speaker 14: who like reading about the affluent, upper middle class bonking

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Speaker 14: and riding horses. And she was supremely successful as a novelist,

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Speaker 14: and the Queen commended her today for her compassion, which

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Speaker 14: isn't the first adjective I would have brought up, but

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Speaker 14: nonetheless it's a sad day and undoubtedly was loved by

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Speaker 14: many here and I would guess in New Zealand as well.

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Speaker 2: Exactly eighty eight. All right, rod ketch up on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much, rodal Liddle out of Britain and

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Speaker 2: once again apologies for the connection. Just quickly, just to

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Speaker 2: wrap this up from the Conservative Party conference. Part of

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Speaker 2: what they were also into as they were going to

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Speaker 2: slash and burn and the civil service forty seven billion

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01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 2: is what they're looking to save. That's billion pounds. So

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Speaker 2: what are they going to do with that? Twenty three

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Speaker 2: billion from welfare eight billion by bringing the civil service

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Speaker 2: numbers down seven billion from overseas eight budget three and

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Speaker 2: a half billion by ending the use of hotels for

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Speaker 2: the asylum see because it's all christ of the mills

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Speaker 2: and that most people.

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Speaker 4: I'd like that.

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Speaker 2: I'd imagine four billion. By ensuring benefit and social housings

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Speaker 2: are reserved for the new UK nationals one point six billion

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Speaker 2: by scrapping environmental policies, including cutting subsidies for heat pumps

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Speaker 2: and evs twelve to nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News togs V.

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Speaker 2: co dot m Z asking I'm sorry to people in

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Speaker 2: the rest of the country, but you might have noticed

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Speaker 2: in the news that the powers that be closed the

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Speaker 2: Harbor Bridge, the State Highway one connection between the north

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Speaker 2: and south of the city because of once again the

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Speaker 2: wind mike. Can you please find out who closed the

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Speaker 2: bridge and hold them to account. Why bass the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister about that? There's something wrong in this country. I

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Speaker 2: mean it's very I mean there's a million things wrong

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Speaker 2: with this country. The NZTA runs the bridge and they

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Speaker 2: will have made the decision. I've raised this with the

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Speaker 2: Minister of Transport Brown as he was at the time, Simeon.

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Speaker 2: I've raised it with the Prime Minister. I don't think

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Speaker 2: they really want to own that bad talk. Oh, it's

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Speaker 2: an independent agency, but I mean, at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, you can't keep closing a city down, especially

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Speaker 2: the biggest city in the country, just because you think

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Speaker 2: there might be a bit of wind. If there was

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Speaker 2: a tornado, sure, you know, if there's a cyclone, maybe,

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Speaker 2: but just another breezy gusty at anything over seventy k's

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Speaker 2: they start to panic and the slow down lights go

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Speaker 2: on and those clowns with orange cones come out. The

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Speaker 2: whole thing's become embarrassing and it's a joke. They've got

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Speaker 2: no buying. Everyone laughs at them, and it's just a

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Speaker 2: massive inconvenience.

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Speaker 3: Is this some one we can vote for who will

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Speaker 3: keep the bridge open?

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Speaker 2: Shan't even get me started. I'm on the way to

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Speaker 2: the city for nine to fifteen, but the bridge has

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Speaker 2: closed due to the wind. It's barely raining. Great way

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Speaker 2: to kill productivity in other one says Mike, why are

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Speaker 2: you reporting on the news the bridge is closed. The

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Speaker 2: Harbor Bridge is not closed. Well, that's because they close

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Speaker 2: and they open it literally like that, it's closed, it's open,

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Speaker 2: it's open. It's closed. By the time they get the

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Speaker 2: pigeon to fly from the bridge to our newsroom and

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Speaker 2: say it's closed, it's open again. By the way, tomorrow

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Speaker 2: when the bee comes along, a very good piece in

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Speaker 2: Business desk. We are set to break through a three

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Speaker 2: year low against the Australian dollar. Now it's hovering at

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Speaker 2: the eighty eight ish mark. It's been down at eighty

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Speaker 2: seven something. And I keep reminding you it wasn't that

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Speaker 2: long ago. We talked periodically about parity. We never got there.

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Speaker 2: But you know, in the high nineties you felt good

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Speaker 2: about yourself, didn't You're ninety seven ninety eight, you felt

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Speaker 2: pretty good about yourself. At eighty seven eighty eight, you

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Speaker 2: feel like you're a third world backwater. Now here's the problem. Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We kind of want them to go fifty and if

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Speaker 2: they do the problem with that is the dollar's going

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Speaker 2: to tank because the Reserve Bank of Australia the other

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Speaker 2: day didn't go So they're at three six and we're

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Speaker 2: going to end up in the low twos. And so

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Speaker 2: the disparity between the two economies because a dollar is

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Speaker 2: a reflection of an economy, and people looking at trade

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Speaker 2: currencies are going to look at Australia and then they're

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Speaker 2: going to look at us and they're going to have

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Speaker 2: and so that's why you're suddenly going to be at

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Speaker 2: eighty seven eighty eight. So according to Business Desk, the

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Speaker 2: price action, as they call it, puts the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two low, which is the last time we're down at

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Speaker 2: eighty seven oh three, into real focus. So that could

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Speaker 2: be part of tomorrow's story as well.

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Speaker 16: Five to nine Trending now with Chemist Warehouse celebrate big

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Speaker 2: Day and politics internationally. Not only did the French lose

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Speaker 2: yet another prime minister after twenty seven glorious days, I

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Speaker 2: hope you enjoyed every one of them, because he can

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Speaker 2: surely remember each and every one of them. So Ireland

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Speaker 2: has lost also a potential future president because if you'd forgotten,

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Speaker 2: and I hope you had, because the whole thing was

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Speaker 2: a joke anyway, Connor McGregor was going to one run

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Speaker 2: and be become the president of Ireland. Unfortunately no one

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Speaker 2: supported them.

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Speaker 3: I didn't step down, I stepped aside and I don't

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Speaker 3: sell so highlight even more the undemocratic process that has

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Speaker 3: taking place in Ireland.

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Speaker 16: When McGregor rolls through, it's a circus.

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Speaker 3: So I there's.

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Speaker 10: Some valuable candidates and speaking candidates with good points with

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Speaker 10: no baggers.

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Speaker 5: I may have a bit of baggage at.

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Speaker 9: The minute, and they still didn't get in it.

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Speaker 3: Allill happened change they aren't made in Ireland. What happened

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Speaker 3: to the Irish people?

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Speaker 4: The rumblings of an Earth's quake will happen, pretty artistic

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Speaker 4: to happen.

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Speaker 2: I may have a bit of baggage at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Do you connor what.

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Speaker 17: It says like he didn't consider himself to be one

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Speaker 17: of those good speaking people with good points.

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Speaker 2: Is everyone angry at the moment?

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Speaker 3: Is everyone like a lot of shout agay?

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Speaker 2: Is that everyone seems it doesn't matter where in the

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Speaker 2: world to go. Australia is miserable, We're miserable. Ireland is

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Speaker 2: certainly miserable. As you've heard from Rod, They've got every

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Speaker 2: right to be miserable at the moment. America's on eage

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Speaker 2: in a way that we haven't seen America on each

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Speaker 2: for a sustained period of time. Japanese are happy, they've

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Speaker 2: got a new prime minister, and they're pretty happy about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether the Syrians who voted over the

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Speaker 2: weekend feel good about the election.

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Speaker 17: Do the people who donated their boats to the flotilla,

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Speaker 17: do they get those boats back?

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Speaker 2: What a good question, Quite an excellent question. Anyway, Wednesday

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Speaker 2: is upon us, and it'll be here before you know,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be here from success or worst Happy days.

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