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Speaker 1: So we seem to have built up ahead of steam

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Speaker 1: over recognizing Palestine. Australia looks like they'll do the business

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Speaker 1: at the United Nations next month. They joined Canada and

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Speaker 1: France possibly the UK. Phil GoF as the former Foreign

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Speaker 1: Minister and is with US film Morning Yeah, morning wakes.

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Speaker 1: Can't I can't work out what the phizz is about.

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Speaker 1: Say this afternoon we announced Palestine's estate, We recognize it

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Speaker 1: to what end? For what purpose?

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Speaker 2: It seems a clear and strong message from New Zealand

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Speaker 2: to the Israeli government that it's moves to make life

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Speaker 2: unbearable for Palestinians and Gaza and to settle annex the

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Speaker 2: West Bank are unacceptable as well as being long and

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Speaker 2: illegal under international law, and really reaffirms our belief that

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Speaker 2: Palestine and people have a right to a homeland of

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Speaker 2: their own alongside Israel. It supports the two state solution,

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Speaker 2: which New Zealand has supported and which Israel itself agree

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Speaker 2: to more than thirty years ago. But as Penny Wong

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Speaker 2: said in Australia yesterday, I think if you don't recognize

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Speaker 2: Palestine Palestine now as an entity, it probably won't exist

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Speaker 2: for very long given what Israel is doing in the

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Speaker 2: Middle East at the present time.

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Speaker 1: But given one hundred and fifty countries already recognized, it

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Speaker 1: hasn't stopped the thing, has it.

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Speaker 2: No. No, Look, it's a measure that we should take,

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Speaker 2: but by itself it doesn't resolve the appalling things that

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Speaker 2: are happening in Gaza to the Palestinian people. And that

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Speaker 2: means that you know, New Zealand should be taking doing

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Speaker 2: more to back up. It works with action there as well.

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Speaker 2: We talk the talk, but we don't seem to have

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Speaker 2: the guts to do anything to back up what we're saying.

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Speaker 2: You know, we just saw a journalist for Al Jazeera

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Speaker 2: kill targeted and killed deliberately by the Israelis yesterday. This

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Speaker 2: on top of you know, sixty thousand deaths, probably one

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand plus injuries, people starving. Even Trump says people

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Speaker 2: are starving, and who of course says no, no, it's

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Speaker 2: not happening. Look, it's time to take decisive action. This

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Speaker 2: is unacceptable. New Zealanders are outraged and the national community

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Speaker 2: is outraged.

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Speaker 1: All right, nice to talk to you, appreciate and apologies

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Speaker 1: for the fine field GoF former Foreign Affairs Minister with

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