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Speaker 4: Good morning, Welcome to news Talks V. Jack Tame with

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Speaker 4: you through to midday today, and we're going to start

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Speaker 4: this morning with a little bit of trivia. Okay, who

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Speaker 4: was the voice for adult Simba in The Lion King.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you a wee hint. It just happens to

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Speaker 4: be the lead singer of a very very famous band,

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Speaker 4: the lead singer of a very famous band, and also

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Speaker 4: the son of a very famous composer. Okay, any ideas

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Speaker 4: get this? The lead singer of Toto, Joe Williams is

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Speaker 4: also the voice of adult Simba in the movie The

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Speaker 4: Lion King. I don't know if there's still are two

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Speaker 4: connections with Africa there I suppose, But how crazy is that?

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Speaker 4: His name is Joe Williams. He is making his way

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Speaker 4: to New Zealand and yes, Joe is going to be

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Speaker 4: with us right after ten o'clock this morning as our

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Speaker 4: feature interview on Newstalks EDB before ten o'clock on News

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Speaker 4: Talks EDB, we'll tell you about the latest film from

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Speaker 4: Jason Statham. Plus we've got a delicious little recipe for

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Speaker 4: this time of year if you like making salmon at home,

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Speaker 4: A perfect alternative for you that's coming out very shortly.

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Speaker 4: Right now, it's eight minutes past nine. The time was

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Speaker 4: three point thirty four am on a Wednesday morning, and

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Speaker 4: I lay there, wide awake, oppress the screen on my phone,

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Speaker 4: you know, like you do, just to kind of check

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Speaker 4: the time, any messages, I wondered. I flipped my pillow,

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Speaker 4: I shifted my weight, and I tried to sleep. The

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Speaker 4: obvious cause of my insomnia was the five week old

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Speaker 4: grunting and squirming in his sleepsack a few feet away

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Speaker 4: from me. But it wasn't the humidity or the police

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Speaker 4: helicopter making one of its swoops over the neighborhood. And

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Speaker 4: this insomnia wasn't caused by a baby. It was caused

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Speaker 4: by adolescence. My wife and I had watched the final episode,

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Speaker 4: episode four a few hours earlier. The episode finished, like

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Speaker 4: most of them, in devastating fashion, and I just lay there,

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Speaker 4: just turning over the story in my mind. If you

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Speaker 4: haven't yet caught the Adolescence buzz, the show I think

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Speaker 4: it came to Netflix than almost any other show in

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Speaker 4: recent times. It's broken all sorts of records. After just

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Speaker 4: eleven days, it broke the record for the highest number

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Speaker 4: of Netflix streams in a two week period, tens of

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Speaker 4: millions of views worldwide, with millions more every day. And

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Speaker 4: in a sense, it's a pretty simple concept, right. Adolescence

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Speaker 4: is a four episode series set in the UK about

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Speaker 4: a knife crime. A young woman has been stabbed to death.

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Speaker 4: Every episode has an incredibly ambitious production quality in that

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Speaker 4: it's done in all one shot, so the whole thing

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Speaker 4: words of the creator, Stephen Graham, it's less of a

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Speaker 4: who done it than a WY done it. As someone

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've got a pretty good sense of

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Speaker 4: just how hard it is to make a one shot show.

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Speaker 4: Technically speaking, it is just ridiculously complicated. I just don't

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Speaker 4: think most people appreciate how hard it is to light

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Speaker 4: going from indoors to outdoors, to classrooms to hallways to

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Speaker 4: Sound recording is such a pain. And what if an

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Speaker 4: start again? That's what I read a piece which explained

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Speaker 4: that many of the crew and adolescents who were working

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Speaker 4: When I told a friend about the show, I said, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: the volatility, the brinksmanship, the unraveling. And then episode four,

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Speaker 4: being art, you know, film cinema. It's kind of high art, right,

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Speaker 4: with films, But how do you define good art? Surely

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Speaker 4: it's a creative work that makes people feel, that affects them,

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Speaker 4: a long long time since a TV show affected me

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Speaker 4: TV drama, it was close to perfect. Jack Team ninety two.

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Speaker 4: Liam Lawson situation in a couple of minutes. What a fiasco?

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Speaker 4: So we're talking about high drama. My god, Kevin Man

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Speaker 5: It's no better way to kick off your weekend than

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Speaker 4: News Talks EDB seventeen minutes past nine on newstalk EDB,

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Speaker 4: Aaron has flipped me a note to say, Jack, I

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Speaker 4: totally agree with you. I binged all four episodes of

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Speaker 4: Adolescents in one night and couldn't stop talking about it

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Speaker 4: for days thereafter. Thanks Aaron. Yet it's funny I see

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Speaker 4: in the UK now they're actually talking about even Kirstaff

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Speaker 4: Jack really looking forward to watching lesson. Of course, it

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Speaker 4: was recommended in our screen time segment just a couple

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Speaker 4: catch up with our screen time expert Tara after ten

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Speaker 4: and see what the next adolescence is going to be.

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Speaker 4: Right now, they're time to catch up with Kevin Milne.

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Speaker 4: He's with us this morning more than Kevin. Jack, have

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Speaker 4: you seen our lessons yet.

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Speaker 6: No, I haven't. Actually, I'm sort of I'm one of

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Speaker 4: you're working even I was two years late to teed Less.

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Speaker 4: So if you're working through ted Less, so now then

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Speaker 4: I'm afraid that we can probably safely say you're not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: I realized that.

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Speaker 6: No, I will, now you've said it, I will have

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Speaker 4: It's stunning, adolessons. It is just it is. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: not I'm not hamming it up one iota, and I

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Speaker 4: cannot remember being as moved by a TV show, certainly

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Speaker 4: It's on Netflix. Yeah, but you need to I'll tell

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been looking for a little hatchback for Tommy.

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Speaker 6: a good safety rating. I was looking at hatchbacks around

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Speaker 6: Swifts had a pretty good reputation for safety. I was

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Speaker 6: According to the same ratings, it's so unsafe now, But

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Speaker 6: from buy a newer car. For eleven thousand, I found

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Speaker 6: a great little two thousand and fifty Suzuki Swift, New Zealand,

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Speaker 6: new new tires, seven airbags, Bluetooth, et cetera. Again, I

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Speaker 6: checked at safety ratings. It was the same as the

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Speaker 6: Eleven grands a lot of money for a kids first car.

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Speaker 6: It's what a lot of parents spend on their own cars.

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Speaker 6: I'm told by the dealers that has more safety innovations

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Speaker 6: older models drop and drop. It's not like those older

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Speaker 7: Cow to Savlter, Jack G, you're a mind of information.

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Speaker 3: I had no idea about the.

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Speaker 6: John.

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Speaker 7: I mean, everybody knows that John Williams music score. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: It's amazing, ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, just all those kind of connections. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: It's embarrassing for Red Bull. I agree, and I'm not

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Speaker 7: and his production.

429
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Speaker 4: One of the executive producers.

430
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a bit of a hand in it.

431
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Speaker 7: And because he's a huge fan of Stephen Graham, they

432
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Speaker 7: work together and snatch.

433
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Speaker 4: Yes all those years yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and how funny.

434
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Speaker 4: Ah yeah, key.

435
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Speaker 7: Stephen Graham looked like he was about seventeen and now

436
00:23:43,013 --> 00:23:45,493
Speaker 7: he's now, he's gone on and become a such a

437
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Speaker 7: fantastic gainst.

438
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Speaker 4: So good, Yeah, he's so good. All right, Hey, thank

439
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Speaker 4: you sir. We better keep moving. We'll catch against in

440
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Speaker 4: our Sporto Andrew Saville before ten o'clock. We've got a

441
00:23:53,413 --> 00:23:56,533
Speaker 4: grilled salmon and rice recipe for you. Delicious, not too oily,

442
00:23:56,653 --> 00:23:58,933
Speaker 4: a nice easy way to make salmon at home. Next up,

443
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Speaker 4: your film picks for this week.

444
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Speaker 8: It's Big.

445
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Speaker 2: Bag.

446
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Speaker 4: It's Lady six. She's performing at Symphony and the Auckland Domain.

447
00:24:18,693 --> 00:24:20,533
Speaker 4: Last night. Oh my gosh, I was just driving past

448
00:24:20,533 --> 00:24:23,533
Speaker 4: the domain before. It looks amazing. It's gonna be a

449
00:24:23,653 --> 00:24:26,693
Speaker 4: huge event. These symphony events just seem to get bigger

450
00:24:26,693 --> 00:24:29,373
Speaker 4: and bigger and bigger and more popular. Feels like half

451
00:24:29,373 --> 00:24:31,013
Speaker 4: the country is going to be going to synphony. So

452
00:24:31,733 --> 00:24:34,373
Speaker 4: if you don't know synthony, it's basically a blend of

453
00:24:34,733 --> 00:24:40,213
Speaker 4: you have an orchestra playing dance music and it's outdoors.

454
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Speaker 4: Everyone gets together. It's really it's yeah. It kind of

455
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Speaker 4: brings in people from all different kind of generations and

456
00:24:47,933 --> 00:24:51,093
Speaker 4: music tastes and everyone just has a really good spirited

457
00:24:51,173 --> 00:24:53,213
Speaker 4: dance in the domain. So it's gonna be pretty epic

458
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Speaker 4: at Auckland Domain when that kicks off tonight. Right now,

459
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Speaker 4: it is twenty one minutes to ten on News Stork'd

460
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Speaker 4: be time to catch up with our film review of

461
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Speaker 4: Francesca Rudkin for her picks this weekend. More than good morning.

462
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Speaker 4: Let's start off with a film that is showing in

463
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Speaker 4: cinemas at the moment, tell Us about the Seed of

464
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Speaker 4: the Sacred fig right.

465
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Speaker 9: So this is just under three hours long. It was

466
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Speaker 9: nominated for Best International Feature Film at the Oscars. It

467
00:25:20,413 --> 00:25:24,053
Speaker 9: won their can't Special Dury Prize last year. It's from

468
00:25:24,133 --> 00:25:29,813
Speaker 9: Iranian filmmaker Mohammad Russeloff. And in completing this film, which

469
00:25:29,973 --> 00:25:34,773
Speaker 9: was shot entirely in secret and Iran, he was sentenced

470
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Speaker 9: to eight years jail and a flogging. He managed to

471
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Speaker 9: leave the country and we think now resides in Germany.

472
00:25:43,013 --> 00:25:45,253
Speaker 9: And if you go and watch this film, it's absolutely

473
00:25:45,293 --> 00:25:51,693
Speaker 9: no surprise really that has happened to him. So it's

474
00:25:51,733 --> 00:25:55,333
Speaker 9: a story about an investigating judge in the Revolutionary court

475
00:25:55,413 --> 00:25:59,133
Speaker 9: in Tehran. It's a very stressful job. He's just had

476
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Speaker 9: a promotion which is very excited about. It means that

477
00:26:01,493 --> 00:26:05,413
Speaker 9: the family gets to move to a bigger apartment, but

478
00:26:05,733 --> 00:26:09,093
Speaker 9: it also puts an awful lot of pressure on his

479
00:26:09,213 --> 00:26:12,093
Speaker 9: home life, on his wife and his two daughters, one

480
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Speaker 9: who is at high school and one who is just

481
00:26:13,533 --> 00:26:17,173
Speaker 9: starting college, because all eyes are on them and they

482
00:26:17,253 --> 00:26:22,693
Speaker 9: need to make sure that they behave perfectly and are

483
00:26:22,733 --> 00:26:24,693
Speaker 9: not seen to step out of line in anyway. And

484
00:26:24,733 --> 00:26:28,533
Speaker 9: this is difficult because at this particular time there is

485
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Speaker 9: an awful lot of protests going on, and of course

486
00:26:31,973 --> 00:26:35,133
Speaker 9: a lot of women, in particular at demanding more human rights,

487
00:26:35,173 --> 00:26:36,973
Speaker 9: have been able to live their lives the way they

488
00:26:37,013 --> 00:26:40,813
Speaker 9: want to, and during this time, the judge's gun disappears

489
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Speaker 9: and he's left to suspect that his wife or his

490
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Speaker 9: daughter's have something to do with it, causing this terrible

491
00:26:46,253 --> 00:26:49,093
Speaker 9: tension in the house. It's the sort of psychological portrayal

492
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Speaker 9: of living under a theocracy in Iran and the paranoia,

493
00:26:55,453 --> 00:26:59,973
Speaker 9: the violence, and the tension that kind of comes with it.

494
00:26:59,973 --> 00:27:04,893
Speaker 9: It's a story of oppression and resilience and hope, and

495
00:27:05,293 --> 00:27:07,973
Speaker 9: I think a very brave film considering the very serious

496
00:27:07,973 --> 00:27:11,293
Speaker 9: consequences which had been imposed upon the director. I believe

497
00:27:11,333 --> 00:27:13,533
Speaker 9: other members too, who were involved in the making of

498
00:27:13,573 --> 00:27:15,933
Speaker 9: this film have also had to leave the country as well.

499
00:27:16,213 --> 00:27:18,213
Speaker 9: Look if you want, it's a very taught film. The

500
00:27:18,253 --> 00:27:21,133
Speaker 9: pressure really builds, it kind of unfolds slowly, but you

501
00:27:21,253 --> 00:27:24,733
Speaker 9: really do feel the fear of these people and what

502
00:27:24,813 --> 00:27:26,613
Speaker 9: it must be like to live in a press of

503
00:27:26,693 --> 00:27:30,253
Speaker 9: society like this. Yeah, yeah, no, quite.

504
00:27:30,013 --> 00:27:32,733
Speaker 4: Remarkable, sounds incredible. Yeah, okay, so that's the seed of

505
00:27:32,773 --> 00:27:35,373
Speaker 4: the Sacred fig at showing in cinemas at the moment.

506
00:27:36,133 --> 00:27:39,453
Speaker 4: Next up, something completely different. Let's have a listen to

507
00:27:39,653 --> 00:27:42,813
Speaker 4: a working man from my wife's past, and I love

508
00:27:42,853 --> 00:27:43,653
Speaker 4: the Royal Marines.

509
00:27:43,933 --> 00:27:45,413
Speaker 5: A lot of people would keep it up on me.

510
00:27:45,613 --> 00:27:48,253
Speaker 5: You give me a job, you're pleasing with me, You

511
00:27:48,693 --> 00:27:50,773
Speaker 5: color Jenny, you're my family.

512
00:27:53,253 --> 00:28:04,813
Speaker 4: Excuse me, here's not your business. That is, of course,

513
00:28:04,933 --> 00:28:09,773
Speaker 4: Jason Stathem and what I would describe as a not

514
00:28:09,893 --> 00:28:11,973
Speaker 4: particularly convincing American accent.

515
00:28:13,893 --> 00:28:16,333
Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, okay, this is a working man.

516
00:28:16,773 --> 00:28:17,013
Speaker 10: Look.

517
00:28:17,093 --> 00:28:19,653
Speaker 9: I actually was looking forward to this because last year

518
00:28:19,893 --> 00:28:23,013
Speaker 9: Jason Staffham and David Eir, the director on this film,

519
00:28:23,053 --> 00:28:25,853
Speaker 9: they teamed up together to create a film called The Beekeeper.

520
00:28:26,133 --> 00:28:27,253
Speaker 8: People might remember it.

521
00:28:27,333 --> 00:28:31,333
Speaker 9: He played this character Adam Clay, who single handedly sort

522
00:28:31,333 --> 00:28:34,453
Speaker 9: of set out to destroy a scammering that had taken

523
00:28:34,493 --> 00:28:38,533
Speaker 9: advantage of a lovely old woman that Adam knew. And

524
00:28:38,613 --> 00:28:40,973
Speaker 9: it was great fun and it was a really good

525
00:28:41,773 --> 00:28:44,453
Speaker 9: action thriller. So I was like, yay, okay, tour back

526
00:28:44,493 --> 00:28:47,173
Speaker 9: together again. This is awesome. Let's see what they produced

527
00:28:47,173 --> 00:28:51,853
Speaker 9: this time. Well, criikey okay. It's produced and written by

528
00:28:51,853 --> 00:28:56,573
Speaker 9: Syvester Stallone, and it's got his sort of name all

529
00:28:56,613 --> 00:28:58,733
Speaker 9: over it. In the field of it. The music, the

530
00:28:58,933 --> 00:29:03,333
Speaker 9: soundtrack is ridiculously epic and over the top. It's really

531
00:29:03,413 --> 00:29:06,813
Speaker 9: earnest and a very far fetched story. And we know

532
00:29:06,893 --> 00:29:09,533
Speaker 9: that Jason Stephan one of the great things is he

533
00:29:09,653 --> 00:29:12,693
Speaker 9: is a brilliant action guy, but he also can throw

534
00:29:12,733 --> 00:29:15,933
Speaker 9: the humor into things as well. There is nothing subtle

535
00:29:15,973 --> 00:29:19,373
Speaker 9: about this film. It's all laid out for you through

536
00:29:20,293 --> 00:29:23,293
Speaker 9: sort of pretty simple dialogue. The wardrobe, oh my goodness,

537
00:29:23,373 --> 00:29:26,853
Speaker 9: the cliched way that people addressed. I mean I started

538
00:29:26,933 --> 00:29:28,573
Speaker 9: laughing when I don't think I.

539
00:29:28,493 --> 00:29:29,573
Speaker 10: Was supposed to be laughing.

540
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Speaker 9: But look, there is always room for an over the

541
00:29:33,733 --> 00:29:37,853
Speaker 9: top take itself too seriously, escapism, piece of action thriller.

542
00:29:38,333 --> 00:29:42,613
Speaker 9: It's just unfortunately, you know, the director and the actor

543
00:29:42,653 --> 00:29:45,733
Speaker 9: did such a good job last year. My hopes were raised,

544
00:29:46,453 --> 00:29:48,613
Speaker 9: and you know, I mean this is the Wheelhouse. This

545
00:29:48,693 --> 00:29:52,373
Speaker 9: is what Jason Stress does so well, and I think

546
00:29:52,373 --> 00:29:54,813
Speaker 9: that him and David Air could have done a really

547
00:29:54,853 --> 00:29:57,933
Speaker 9: good job of this. But it's just yeah, anyway, there

548
00:29:57,973 --> 00:29:58,253
Speaker 9: we go.

549
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Speaker 10: I'll leave it a bit.

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Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, if that eccing does anything to go by,

551
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Speaker 11: I mean, we all love Jason State them being like,

552
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Speaker 11: oh yeah, you know, I'm just in every man who

553
00:30:08,973 --> 00:30:10,933
Speaker 11: happens to be also at killing people.

554
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Speaker 4: But like, I just don't know why you trust me.

555
00:30:15,773 --> 00:30:19,213
Speaker 9: Yes, the least you have to worry about what the

556
00:30:19,253 --> 00:30:21,853
Speaker 9: way they've dressed everybody to make them so clearly obvious,

557
00:30:21,893 --> 00:30:22,773
Speaker 9: like you're the bad guy.

558
00:30:22,893 --> 00:30:24,453
Speaker 4: Oh, you're the you know yeah.

559
00:30:25,733 --> 00:30:28,093
Speaker 9: And then the sort of the gangsters all dressed in

560
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Speaker 9: these ridiculously over the top sort of tracks outfits, which

561
00:30:31,213 --> 00:30:33,853
Speaker 9: makes me so stand out, like you know that they wouldn't.

562
00:30:33,893 --> 00:30:35,253
Speaker 9: Oh I can't. I just don't, you know.

563
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Speaker 4: Sometimes they say they say that there's some study it

564
00:30:38,053 --> 00:30:40,933
Speaker 4: says that your your brain in watching TV or movies

565
00:30:40,973 --> 00:30:44,093
Speaker 4: sometimes your brain can be less active than when it's sleeping.

566
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Speaker 4: It sounds like one of those films. It sounds like

567
00:30:46,093 --> 00:30:48,613
Speaker 4: one of those films if you're all just sit in

568
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Speaker 4: front of it and the film happens.

569
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Speaker 9: To you for anything else and going in very good.

570
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Speaker 4: Okay, that's thank you. That is a working man that's

571
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Speaker 4: showing in cinemas now. Francisca brings us a variety. That's

572
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Speaker 4: why we love talking with her on Saturday mornings. The

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Speaker 4: Seed of the Sacred Fig is the nearly three hour

574
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Speaker 4: film in farest See, the first one that she shared

575
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Speaker 4: with us. We'll put both of those films and all

576
00:31:09,373 --> 00:31:11,133
Speaker 4: the details for them up on the news talks, he'd

577
00:31:11,133 --> 00:31:12,813
Speaker 4: be website, We're talking food with that cook.

578
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Speaker 1: Next Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going

579
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Speaker 1: through the weekend with bepure dot cot in here for

580
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Speaker 1: high quality supplements Used talks.

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Speaker 4: They'd be thirteen minutes to ten on news Talks. He'd

582
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Speaker 4: be our cook. Nicki Wicks is here, she's seen adolescents.

583
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Speaker 4: What did you think, Nikki?

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Speaker 12: Oh yes, oh well I found myself incredibly disturbed. Yeah,

585
00:31:36,693 --> 00:31:39,373
Speaker 12: it was great. I was I was absolutely gripped by it,

586
00:31:39,453 --> 00:31:42,133
Speaker 12: by the acting in it, et cetera. It was extraordinary

587
00:31:42,173 --> 00:31:46,733
Speaker 12: and it was it was so true, Like, yeah, it was.

588
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Speaker 4: It was you know, that's you know what if they

589
00:31:49,933 --> 00:31:51,493
Speaker 4: not that they need it, but if they if they

590
00:31:51,533 --> 00:31:53,333
Speaker 4: need that, if they you know, they've got their like

591
00:31:53,373 --> 00:31:55,013
Speaker 4: posters up anywhere and they have it and they have

592
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Speaker 4: the reviews. You know, it's just like our five stars,

593
00:31:57,653 --> 00:31:59,893
Speaker 4: the Guardian five stars, in New York Times five stars

594
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Speaker 4: and Wall Street General. They can just put Nicki Wicks,

595
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Speaker 4: I think that.

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Speaker 5: No.

597
00:32:06,773 --> 00:32:09,173
Speaker 4: I think.

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00:32:09,733 --> 00:32:15,133
Speaker 12: Your terrible situation unfold and you had sympathies for all

599
00:32:15,253 --> 00:32:18,813
Speaker 12: all around, and you're kind of like, when did young

600
00:32:18,933 --> 00:32:21,973
Speaker 12: men or when do young men. Yeah, I don't know,

601
00:32:22,293 --> 00:32:27,413
Speaker 12: feel so rejected. And so when do any young people

602
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Speaker 12: feel as though the idea of being liked is the

603
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Speaker 12: most important thing in the world.

604
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Speaker 4: Really, you know, it's just not.

605
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Speaker 12: We all learn that as adults that you start to

606
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Speaker 12: realize it's not about other people liking you, it's about

607
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Speaker 12: who you love.

608
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Speaker 13: And oh it's tricky.

609
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Speaker 4: It's tricky.

610
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Speaker 14: Yeah.

611
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Speaker 4: Well anyway, okay, anyway, this morning, you've got a grilled

612
00:32:49,253 --> 00:32:51,693
Speaker 4: rice and grilled salmon. And rice used to be for us,

613
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Speaker 4: which is great because I mean, I love salmon, but

614
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Speaker 4: I know, like my wife finds it a bit if

615
00:32:57,613 --> 00:33:01,693
Speaker 4: we bake it, she finds it a bit too overwhelming,

616
00:33:01,733 --> 00:33:03,893
Speaker 4: a bit too salmony, and a bit too rich, you know.

617
00:33:04,813 --> 00:33:07,413
Speaker 4: And this is maybe a bit of an alternative, it

618
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Speaker 4: really is.

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Speaker 12: Look, I'm not a big fan of baking salmon, add all.

620
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Speaker 12: I either smoke it or I grill it. Okay, so

621
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Speaker 12: either which way, but I find baked salmon I really

622
00:33:16,213 --> 00:33:18,693
Speaker 12: enjoy it. I mean, and I'm a r A R

623
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Speaker 12: L y. I just it is too rich for me.

624
00:33:21,533 --> 00:33:24,893
Speaker 12: Whereas if you grill it, and you just need to

625
00:33:24,933 --> 00:33:27,053
Speaker 12: really grill it on one side because it'll go all

626
00:33:27,093 --> 00:33:30,493
Speaker 12: the way through. It tends to just leak some of

627
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Speaker 12: that oil out. I know the works good for you

628
00:33:32,453 --> 00:33:34,173
Speaker 12: and all that sort of thing, but I'm not keen.

629
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Speaker 12: So I've got this grilled salmon respect. I also love

630
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Speaker 12: it as a dinner for one or two, because salmon's

631
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Speaker 12: quite expensive too. Trying to feed a family for six

632
00:33:42,933 --> 00:33:45,373
Speaker 12: on it, I'm sure we'll be pricey. So I think

633
00:33:45,453 --> 00:33:47,453
Speaker 12: you'd about one hundred to one hundred and fifty grams

634
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Speaker 12: yourself because it is rich. I buy those lovely salmon

635
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Speaker 12: filets that have got the skin on. If they're too thick,

636
00:33:52,173 --> 00:33:54,453
Speaker 12: ole slice them down the middle to save two.

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Speaker 15: Get you get your oven on.

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Speaker 12: Grill really high. I put the salmon just on a

639
00:34:00,013 --> 00:34:02,573
Speaker 12: foil lined tray because that oil will come out of it.

640
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Speaker 12: And I like to mix a little mix of soy sauce.

641
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Speaker 12: I don't know, two tablespoons a teaspoon of freshly grated

642
00:34:10,653 --> 00:34:14,333
Speaker 12: ginger and about half a teaspoon of sugar jack, and

643
00:34:14,373 --> 00:34:16,493
Speaker 12: you mix all of that together and then just brush

644
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Speaker 12: that over the salmon, and you've put the salmon skin

645
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Speaker 12: side down on your on your on your on your

646
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Speaker 12: sheet of foil. I also a little, a little tip

647
00:34:26,333 --> 00:34:28,493
Speaker 12: is also I often try and buy the tail piece.

648
00:34:29,053 --> 00:34:31,813
Speaker 12: Tail piece has a I think less fat in it

649
00:34:32,213 --> 00:34:35,253
Speaker 12: and also less less bones are left of bone and

650
00:34:35,253 --> 00:34:38,333
Speaker 12: which is often cheaper to by bonin. Grill it until

651
00:34:38,373 --> 00:34:42,013
Speaker 12: it's really you know, sort of quite caramelized. It'll you know,

652
00:34:42,013 --> 00:34:43,933
Speaker 12: you're only gonna grill it on the one side, so

653
00:34:44,053 --> 00:34:45,813
Speaker 12: it'll be you know, you can really leave it under

654
00:34:45,853 --> 00:34:48,333
Speaker 12: there for a while, and then remove the skin. You're

655
00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:50,813
Speaker 12: going to serve the flesh of it, and then grill

656
00:34:50,893 --> 00:34:54,373
Speaker 12: the skin until it's really crispy, because that's delicious to

657
00:34:54,373 --> 00:34:55,853
Speaker 12: have it. You don't want to waste the grit that.

658
00:34:55,853 --> 00:34:57,453
Speaker 12: You don't want to waste that. And then I just

659
00:34:57,533 --> 00:35:00,093
Speaker 12: serve this with some beautiful brown rice. I love the

660
00:35:00,093 --> 00:35:02,413
Speaker 12: earthiness of brown rice. I mean, this is a very

661
00:35:02,493 --> 00:35:06,653
Speaker 12: sort of common breakfast item in Japan as sort of

662
00:35:06,693 --> 00:35:09,813
Speaker 12: rice and salmon, and it's really long lasting. It will

663
00:35:09,893 --> 00:35:12,773
Speaker 12: keep you satisfied all day, especially if you use brown rice.

664
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Speaker 12: And I just use brown rice. I put maybe some

665
00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:18,733
Speaker 12: lovely little pickled vegetables or maybe some salad greens in

666
00:35:18,773 --> 00:35:21,813
Speaker 12: this little bowl with my rice salmon on top. Sprinkle

667
00:35:21,813 --> 00:35:24,813
Speaker 12: over some sesame seed, squeeze of lemon juice and then

668
00:35:24,853 --> 00:35:28,133
Speaker 12: serve it with that crisp skin on the side, and

669
00:35:28,173 --> 00:35:31,813
Speaker 12: it's just a lovely little It's just beautiful. It's just simple,

670
00:35:31,853 --> 00:35:33,213
Speaker 12: it's easy, it's good for you.

671
00:35:33,413 --> 00:35:34,973
Speaker 4: It's clean food.

672
00:35:35,013 --> 00:35:39,253
Speaker 12: Not that I consider any food necessarily dirty, but yeah,

673
00:35:39,253 --> 00:35:41,293
Speaker 12: it's good. You'll feel great afterward. It makes a good

674
00:35:41,333 --> 00:35:46,693
Speaker 12: sort of breakfast or lunch or dinner. Yeah, so perfect, Yeah, yummy.

675
00:35:46,813 --> 00:35:49,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. I always find it weird

676
00:35:49,493 --> 00:35:53,653
Speaker 4: when people don't like eating salmon skin, you know, yeah,

677
00:35:53,653 --> 00:35:56,893
Speaker 4: because it's I know, when it's crispy, especially I mean

678
00:35:56,973 --> 00:35:58,293
Speaker 4: you know, you know, if you bake it, and it

679
00:35:58,333 --> 00:36:02,653
Speaker 4: can be kind of a bit like maybe that's understandable.

680
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Speaker 12: People don't like that.

681
00:36:04,893 --> 00:36:08,213
Speaker 4: No, I don't think people like fleating play things. But

682
00:36:08,213 --> 00:36:10,293
Speaker 4: but when it's Krisby, I'm was like, what are you doing?

683
00:36:10,493 --> 00:36:12,133
Speaker 4: How are you missing out on this? This is incredible?

684
00:36:12,333 --> 00:36:13,493
Speaker 15: I know, it's so young.

685
00:36:13,653 --> 00:36:14,693
Speaker 9: It's like the best little chip.

686
00:36:15,253 --> 00:36:18,653
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah. Can I do a little teas.

687
00:36:18,453 --> 00:36:19,053
Speaker 16: For next week?

688
00:36:19,133 --> 00:36:19,813
Speaker 4: Please?

689
00:36:20,573 --> 00:36:23,413
Speaker 12: Just because I like praps, some other listeners have got

690
00:36:23,493 --> 00:36:27,533
Speaker 12: quint quinces. It is Quinn season, and if you know

691
00:36:27,573 --> 00:36:30,893
Speaker 12: about quin season, you'll be drowning in them. And so

692
00:36:30,973 --> 00:36:32,813
Speaker 12: next week I want to give us some ideas on

693
00:36:32,853 --> 00:36:35,693
Speaker 12: how to make beautiful quince paste. They'll store well. So

694
00:36:35,733 --> 00:36:38,053
Speaker 12: if you're listening and you've got a bucket of quinc there,

695
00:36:38,053 --> 00:36:40,013
Speaker 12: they still think well, so they'll store for a week.

696
00:36:40,773 --> 00:36:42,933
Speaker 12: And next week I'll give us a lovely couple of

697
00:36:43,053 --> 00:36:48,253
Speaker 12: ideas for sort of baked, beautiful slow quints. Love them,

698
00:36:48,853 --> 00:36:51,333
Speaker 12: and also give my recipe for a quick quince paste.

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Speaker 4: Very good, Okay, I look forward to there. Thank you,

700
00:36:54,053 --> 00:36:56,453
Speaker 4: look forward to it. So you next Saturday, thank you,

701
00:36:56,493 --> 00:36:59,333
Speaker 4: we are cook there. We'll make sure her recipe and

702
00:36:59,373 --> 00:37:02,293
Speaker 4: instructions for grilling salmon with some brown rice rup on

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Speaker 4: the Newstalk's head be website newstalks headb dot co dot

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Speaker 4: m z. Right now it is seven to.

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Speaker 1: Ten giving you the inside scoof on all you need

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Speaker 4: Harry says Jack. I turned adolescents off, just really disturbing. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't blame you, Harry. I told my parents about

710
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Speaker 4: it and Mum was like, yep, I'm gonna watch it.

711
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Speaker 4: But I just I need to pick the right time.

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Speaker 4: I said, yep, that's very wise. Like I said, it's

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Speaker 4: not gory. I think it's just a like an R

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Speaker 4: thirteen or PG thirteen or whatever. So it's not gory.

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Speaker 4: It is just affecting Jack. The film nineteen seventeen is

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Speaker 4: done in one shot. I experienced motion sickness during the

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Speaker 4: opening scenes of running through the trenches. It's incredible. Yeap,

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Speaker 4: that is amazing. Nineteen seventeen does give the effect of

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Speaker 4: one shot. But trust me, I went down a rabbit

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Speaker 4: hole with all of this. So when they were making

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Speaker 4: nineteen seventeen the film, they actually recorded it in several

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Speaker 4: different shots, and they used like digital editing techniques to

723
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Speaker 4: stitch those together, which are very complicated with adolescents. They

724
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Speaker 4: literally just filmed it in one shot, so they hit

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Speaker 4: record and then they filmed the whole thing. My goodness,

726
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Speaker 4: you wouldn't want to be the camera person who accidentally

727
00:38:11,253 --> 00:38:14,773
Speaker 4: forgot to hit record, would you. Jack A rented a car.

728
00:38:14,973 --> 00:38:18,533
Speaker 4: The amount of so called safety tech is ridiculous. It

729
00:38:18,573 --> 00:38:20,493
Speaker 4: was actually a distraction with all of the alerts. The

730
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Speaker 4: worst feature was the steering trying to force against where

731
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Speaker 4: I wanted to go. This is what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: That's the lane departure. I'm sure can be helpful, but

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Speaker 4: it can also be a little distracting and disconcerting when

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden the car heads in a direction

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Speaker 4: you weren't expecting. Anyway, I'll get to more of your

736
00:38:34,653 --> 00:38:36,853
Speaker 4: feedback after ten o'clock ninety two. Ninety two is the

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Speaker 4: text number if you want to send us a message,

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Speaker 4: and of course our feature interview right after the ten

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Speaker 4: o'clock news, Joe Williams from Toto is going to be

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Speaker 4: with us. Cannot wait for that, but it's just coming

741
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Speaker 4: up to ten o'clock news. Is next a Saturday Morning,

742
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Speaker 4: I'm Jack Tame.

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00:38:59,133 --> 00:39:02,213
Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and vpewer dot co dot in seat for

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Speaker 1: a high quality supplement ex news talks'd.

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Speaker 17: Be ah, what a jam?

747
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Speaker 4: What a jam? My goodness. Toto did it right. They

748
00:39:42,133 --> 00:39:45,213
Speaker 4: did it. They found just the right blend of groove

749
00:39:45,413 --> 00:39:48,853
Speaker 4: and malady to hit that kind of glorious sweet spot.

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Speaker 4: They didn't crack under pressure. They never swayed away from

751
00:39:52,653 --> 00:39:56,013
Speaker 4: their high gloss sound. As the world turned to heavier

752
00:39:56,133 --> 00:39:58,853
Speaker 4: rock and roll, and next month, Toto are coming to

753
00:39:59,053 --> 00:40:02,373
Speaker 4: New Zealand touring our shores, and ahead of their tour,

754
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Speaker 4: Joe Williams from Toto is with us this morning, Keldo,

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Off into the show.

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Speaker 18: Good morning. How's everybody doing.

757
00:40:09,573 --> 00:40:13,373
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone is doing incredibly well, all the better for

758
00:40:13,573 --> 00:40:15,773
Speaker 4: having you with us this morning, So thank you very

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Speaker 4: much for your time.

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Speaker 3: How do you how do.

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Speaker 4: You distinguish the success that Toto still enjoys all these

762
00:40:24,933 --> 00:40:28,693
Speaker 4: years since you first formed? Why is Toto still so popular?

763
00:40:28,773 --> 00:40:30,413
Speaker 4: Do you think?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 19: I think it's a great deal of it has to

766
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Speaker 19: do with these the songs, the big hit songs, I

767
00:40:38,213 --> 00:40:42,653
Speaker 19: mean Africa alone, just as a as a song has

768
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Speaker 19: given us life, you know, beyond perhaps may have been

769
00:40:48,253 --> 00:40:50,773
Speaker 19: you know, who knows, But you know, I think that

770
00:40:50,813 --> 00:40:53,213
Speaker 19: some of these songs are timeless and as people go

771
00:40:53,373 --> 00:40:57,533
Speaker 19: back searching through you know, music from the eighties, seventies

772
00:40:57,573 --> 00:41:02,013
Speaker 19: and eighties and nineties, they latch onto things that still

773
00:41:02,053 --> 00:41:05,533
Speaker 19: hold up, you know. I think that's part of it. Yeah,

774
00:41:05,813 --> 00:41:08,173
Speaker 19: the other the other part, I think it's just it's

775
00:41:08,253 --> 00:41:11,773
Speaker 19: just that the band has never really stopped touring over

776
00:41:11,813 --> 00:41:15,853
Speaker 19: all of these years, and so you know, who knows.

777
00:41:15,973 --> 00:41:18,733
Speaker 4: You say that Africa has given you life? What do

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00:41:18,773 --> 00:41:19,293
Speaker 4: you mean by that?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, well, if you just you know, younger and younger

780
00:41:24,373 --> 00:41:29,653
Speaker 20: people are finding it and and I suppose a few

781
00:41:29,693 --> 00:41:34,893
Speaker 20: of the different artists who have re recorded it or

782
00:41:35,573 --> 00:41:38,613
Speaker 20: used pieces of it or something, or it's shown up

783
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Speaker 20: in a particular TV series or a movie something like that,

784
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Speaker 20: And and then it still holds.

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Speaker 19: Up after all the all of these years, and so

786
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Speaker 19: as people find it, it breathes new life into the

787
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Speaker 19: into the band.

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Speaker 4: It's It's amazing, isn't it That That kind of says

789
00:41:55,493 --> 00:41:58,093
Speaker 4: something about human beings as well, that a song like

790
00:41:58,133 --> 00:42:03,253
Speaker 4: that can be so infectious and catchy, you know, decades ago,

791
00:42:03,533 --> 00:42:05,773
Speaker 4: and yet someone introduced to it today will still have

792
00:42:05,813 --> 00:42:09,813
Speaker 4: the same reaction. We'll still find it really infixious and catchy.

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00:42:09,933 --> 00:42:11,693
Speaker 4: It'll become an ear wom It'll be stuck in the

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Speaker 4: heat for days. There's something kind of a bad condition.

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Speaker 4: And I suppose it speaks to the speaks to the

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Speaker 4: magic of that song.

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Speaker 18: It does.

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Speaker 19: I mean, you know, in my view, the production of

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Speaker 19: it and the sounds that were used back at that

800
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Speaker 19: at that time, primarily the Bob Bob you know that

801
00:42:33,093 --> 00:42:35,933
Speaker 19: was done on a keyboard that that really you can

802
00:42:36,013 --> 00:42:40,213
Speaker 19: only get that sound from that particular piece of hardware,

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00:42:41,613 --> 00:42:43,893
Speaker 19: and then if you just think about the production of

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Speaker 19: the whole song after that, it still holds up.

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Speaker 5: Today.

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Speaker 18: A lot of.

807
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Speaker 19: Music doesn't, you know, play or seems corny or odd

808
00:42:52,573 --> 00:42:55,453
Speaker 19: or maybe the sonically it doesn't sound as good that

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Speaker 19: kind of thing. Africa still really holds up. It's a

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00:42:58,733 --> 00:43:03,773
Speaker 19: kind of a very smooth feel feeling and uh and

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Speaker 19: talk about earworms. I think that that that the chorus

812
00:43:07,573 --> 00:43:09,693
Speaker 19: of that song, and also just some of the sounds

813
00:43:09,733 --> 00:43:11,613
Speaker 19: on there are are infectious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you remember the writing and recording process for Africa.

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Speaker 18: I don't, but you know, some of the other guys,

816
00:43:22,093 --> 00:43:22,813
Speaker 18: I'm sure do.

817
00:43:23,013 --> 00:43:25,053
Speaker 19: What I what I do know about that song, which

818
00:43:25,093 --> 00:43:27,093
Speaker 19: is I think is kind of an interesting story, is

819
00:43:27,133 --> 00:43:28,813
Speaker 19: that the rest of the guys in the band at

820
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Speaker 19: that time.

821
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Speaker 18: Did not want it on the record.

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Speaker 19: It was brought in late in the game, and they

823
00:43:37,773 --> 00:43:41,493
Speaker 19: they went ahead and produced it up and finished finished it.

824
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Speaker 19: But when it finally was finished, a lot of the

825
00:43:44,013 --> 00:43:46,893
Speaker 19: guys thought it didn't fit with the rest of the album,

826
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Speaker 19: and so maybe they'll just put it at the very

827
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Speaker 19: very end. In those days, when you had vinyl, you

828
00:43:51,973 --> 00:43:53,813
Speaker 19: would go to side to and put it as the

829
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Speaker 19: last cut.

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Speaker 18: And so that's what they did with it, not thinking

831
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Speaker 18: or you know, realizing.

832
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Speaker 5: That it.

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Speaker 18: Would be as big as it became.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny, isn't it, Like you just he is

835
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Speaker 4: the imagine if it hadn't been included, your life probably

836
00:44:12,613 --> 00:44:13,973
Speaker 4: would have been profoundly different.

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Speaker 5: It came very.

838
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Speaker 18: Close to not being included. That's that's the odd thing.

839
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Speaker 19: Yeah, So you know, and that's sometimes the way with

840
00:44:23,533 --> 00:44:27,053
Speaker 19: like big hit films or big hit TV series that

841
00:44:27,093 --> 00:44:31,693
Speaker 19: you can often hear producers and writers and creators saying,

842
00:44:31,853 --> 00:44:33,453
Speaker 19: you know, you had no idea it was going to

843
00:44:33,453 --> 00:44:34,893
Speaker 19: be this big that kind of thing.

844
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Speaker 4: You're listening to Jack Tame. I'm speaking with Joe Williams

845
00:44:38,413 --> 00:44:42,653
Speaker 4: from Toto ahead of their three New Zealand shows. So, Joe,

846
00:44:42,693 --> 00:44:47,533
Speaker 4: you have all sorts of different musical and artistic pursuits.

847
00:44:47,653 --> 00:44:50,173
Speaker 4: I know you've recorded heaps as a solo artist, and

848
00:44:50,733 --> 00:44:53,013
Speaker 4: you know you spend a lot of time writing scores

849
00:44:53,133 --> 00:44:56,213
Speaker 4: for film and TV as well. So how do you,

850
00:44:56,213 --> 00:44:59,213
Speaker 4: you know, kind of balance those different pursuits and interests.

851
00:44:59,213 --> 00:45:01,693
Speaker 4: Are there certain things that you get more joy from

852
00:45:01,693 --> 00:45:02,493
Speaker 4: at different times.

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00:45:04,973 --> 00:45:09,013
Speaker 19: Well, certain, that's it's been a while since I've done

854
00:45:09,093 --> 00:45:14,693
Speaker 19: any real work composing for television and or film. Just

855
00:45:15,333 --> 00:45:18,533
Speaker 19: I've been busy back on the road for sixteen fifteen,

856
00:45:18,893 --> 00:45:23,093
Speaker 19: almost sixteen years, and so I've been fortunate to have

857
00:45:23,173 --> 00:45:26,413
Speaker 19: these chunks in my life where I'd be doing one

858
00:45:26,453 --> 00:45:29,773
Speaker 19: thing or another. You know, I left, I left the

859
00:45:29,853 --> 00:45:34,733
Speaker 19: group in eighty nine and had went through a little period.

860
00:45:34,373 --> 00:45:38,213
Speaker 18: Of reinvention and uh, you met my wife and.

861
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Speaker 19: Ended up having my kids, and and and learned how

862
00:45:42,253 --> 00:45:45,853
Speaker 19: to do a different thing, you know, acquired a skill

863
00:45:45,973 --> 00:45:49,213
Speaker 19: to do it, and and moved into composing for TV

864
00:45:49,293 --> 00:45:53,613
Speaker 19: and film and then uh, and then always recording you know, pop.

865
00:45:53,453 --> 00:45:56,053
Speaker 18: Music or rock music or whatever whatever you want to

866
00:45:56,053 --> 00:45:59,853
Speaker 18: call us, in between and showing up for the odd

867
00:45:59,893 --> 00:46:01,413
Speaker 18: concert here and there with Toto.

868
00:46:02,173 --> 00:46:06,453
Speaker 19: But then, you know, after fifteen years or so, I

869
00:46:06,493 --> 00:46:09,213
Speaker 19: started to feel a little bit bit of a burnout

870
00:46:09,253 --> 00:46:14,213
Speaker 19: with the with the composing for for producers and directors,

871
00:46:14,333 --> 00:46:17,373
Speaker 19: it's a it's an exhausting process, and you're dealing with

872
00:46:17,733 --> 00:46:20,773
Speaker 19: a lot of different personalities, and you know, it's it

873
00:46:21,173 --> 00:46:25,213
Speaker 19: takes it takes a strong person to do that and

874
00:46:25,293 --> 00:46:27,773
Speaker 19: handle that. My hats are always off to my father

875
00:46:27,813 --> 00:46:30,613
Speaker 19: because he's always done such a great job with that.

876
00:46:31,093 --> 00:46:33,013
Speaker 19: But then I was lucky when that, you know, when

877
00:46:33,013 --> 00:46:36,253
Speaker 19: that came to a sort of a slow.

878
00:46:37,653 --> 00:46:46,213
Speaker 18: End, back came the touring full time. Yeah, different different chunks.

879
00:46:45,773 --> 00:46:48,493
Speaker 19: And now you know, my kids are grown, I have

880
00:46:48,613 --> 00:46:52,253
Speaker 19: grandchildren and and uh and and our tours are going

881
00:46:52,333 --> 00:46:55,573
Speaker 19: better than they than they ever have really in terms

882
00:46:55,653 --> 00:46:58,373
Speaker 19: of in terms of attendance and the kinds of venues

883
00:46:58,413 --> 00:46:59,013
Speaker 19: that we're playing.

884
00:46:59,413 --> 00:47:00,493
Speaker 18: So it's very exciting.

885
00:47:01,053 --> 00:47:04,653
Speaker 19: And uh, you know, we still have a good hunger

886
00:47:04,893 --> 00:47:08,373
Speaker 19: to keep out there on the road. Everybody's healthy and

887
00:47:08,373 --> 00:47:10,893
Speaker 19: and ready to go. And and we've got a great

888
00:47:10,933 --> 00:47:12,813
Speaker 19: show that we're doing now that that we're going to

889
00:47:12,853 --> 00:47:13,773
Speaker 19: be doing this whole year.

890
00:47:13,893 --> 00:47:15,613
Speaker 4: Yeah, tell us about the show and what what can

891
00:47:15,693 --> 00:47:17,093
Speaker 4: audiences in New Zealand E speak?

892
00:47:18,773 --> 00:47:20,013
Speaker 18: Well, we have a great set.

893
00:47:20,293 --> 00:47:20,413
Speaker 15: Uh.

894
00:47:20,573 --> 00:47:20,773
Speaker 5: You know.

895
00:47:20,893 --> 00:47:23,053
Speaker 19: One of the lovely things about the band is that

896
00:47:23,093 --> 00:47:27,773
Speaker 19: there's a very very deep, deep barrel of wonderful songs

897
00:47:28,333 --> 00:47:29,213
Speaker 19: to choose from.

898
00:47:29,533 --> 00:47:31,373
Speaker 18: Of course you're gonna hear all of the.

899
00:47:31,733 --> 00:47:34,653
Speaker 19: Big ones, you know, that's that's a that's a given.

900
00:47:35,293 --> 00:47:37,933
Speaker 19: And I think they're placed just right in terms of

901
00:47:38,053 --> 00:47:42,373
Speaker 19: you know, audience excitement and and everything. But uh uh

902
00:47:42,413 --> 00:47:46,853
Speaker 19: but and and then there's a slew of songs that

903
00:47:46,933 --> 00:47:50,213
Speaker 19: were in the top ten or perhaps even in different

904
00:47:50,293 --> 00:47:53,373
Speaker 19: territories of the world number one songs. Yeah that maybe

905
00:47:53,373 --> 00:47:57,373
Speaker 19: people people have I don't know, I don't know forgotten

906
00:47:57,413 --> 00:47:59,053
Speaker 19: about is the is the right way to put it?

907
00:47:59,093 --> 00:48:01,733
Speaker 18: But you're you're sure, Oh yeah, I didn't.

908
00:48:01,813 --> 00:48:02,293
Speaker 5: I forgot.

909
00:48:02,373 --> 00:48:04,573
Speaker 19: I didn't know that was that those guys, Right, I

910
00:48:04,613 --> 00:48:06,773
Speaker 19: forgot that tune was from the those guys.

911
00:48:06,853 --> 00:48:07,853
Speaker 18: We have a lot of those.

912
00:48:08,613 --> 00:48:11,213
Speaker 19: And then a couple of deep cuts that maybe the

913
00:48:11,573 --> 00:48:15,573
Speaker 19: really uh die hard fans are going to recognize, but

914
00:48:16,653 --> 00:48:21,573
Speaker 19: are great songs in and of themselves, and I think

915
00:48:21,693 --> 00:48:24,373
Speaker 19: exciting to listen to, and that you know, the tour

916
00:48:24,533 --> 00:48:27,493
Speaker 19: is is a it's a stage of really great musicians.

917
00:48:27,613 --> 00:48:27,773
Speaker 5: You know.

918
00:48:27,853 --> 00:48:29,813
Speaker 18: One one of the things about this band.

919
00:48:29,653 --> 00:48:32,733
Speaker 19: Is that it's always had, with all of its different changes,

920
00:48:33,773 --> 00:48:37,213
Speaker 19: fantastic musicians, just a very very top and in uh

921
00:48:37,693 --> 00:48:42,613
Speaker 19: in musicianship and and uh, you know, cohesiveness within within

922
00:48:42,653 --> 00:48:46,733
Speaker 19: the group. So you'll have that, You'll hear great singing.

923
00:48:46,813 --> 00:48:49,213
Speaker 19: You're gonna, you're gonna, there's you're gonna, there's people are

924
00:48:49,253 --> 00:48:52,373
Speaker 19: gonna be surprised. We have a couple of old members

925
00:48:52,413 --> 00:48:55,373
Speaker 19: coming back and a couple of new members who were

926
00:48:55,453 --> 00:48:59,773
Speaker 19: very exciting for us and breathing some new life and

927
00:49:00,493 --> 00:49:02,853
Speaker 19: a great program. We just did a month in Europe

928
00:49:02,853 --> 00:49:06,613
Speaker 19: and it was fantastic. So we'll, uh, we're gonna bring

929
00:49:06,653 --> 00:49:07,213
Speaker 19: it to you.

930
00:49:07,173 --> 00:49:08,933
Speaker 4: And Christopher Cross is going to be here as well,

931
00:49:08,933 --> 00:49:12,293
Speaker 4: which is which is just so exciting for you know,

932
00:49:12,453 --> 00:49:15,133
Speaker 4: for New Zealand fans. I know, hey, before we let you,

933
00:49:15,213 --> 00:49:16,813
Speaker 4: before we let you go, Joe, there was one other

934
00:49:16,813 --> 00:49:20,413
Speaker 4: thing I wanted to ask you about that the speaking

935
00:49:20,453 --> 00:49:27,853
Speaker 4: of like amazing, enduring kind of cultural performances. You played

936
00:49:27,893 --> 00:49:29,933
Speaker 4: Simba in The Lion King. You were the voice of

937
00:49:29,933 --> 00:49:32,293
Speaker 4: Simba and The Lion King. Did did you have any

938
00:49:32,293 --> 00:49:35,973
Speaker 4: idea at that time that that that that film was

939
00:49:36,053 --> 00:49:37,813
Speaker 4: going to have the kind of impact that it's had.

940
00:49:39,573 --> 00:49:42,413
Speaker 18: Well, I certainly hoped it would, you know. I remember

941
00:49:42,493 --> 00:49:44,573
Speaker 18: the session very very clearly.

942
00:49:44,693 --> 00:49:48,253
Speaker 19: I wasn't in the studio for very long, and uh,

943
00:49:49,093 --> 00:49:51,013
Speaker 19: my part was was going.

944
00:49:50,813 --> 00:49:52,613
Speaker 18: To be pretty small.

945
00:49:53,373 --> 00:49:56,613
Speaker 19: Thankfully, my wife was with me and she was in

946
00:49:56,693 --> 00:49:59,573
Speaker 19: the booth and actually old friends with one of the

947
00:49:59,973 --> 00:50:03,013
Speaker 19: producers of the music in that film.

948
00:50:03,893 --> 00:50:04,253
Speaker 18: Obviously.

949
00:50:04,293 --> 00:50:07,333
Speaker 19: It was at hot Zimmer's place and and uh, and

950
00:50:07,373 --> 00:50:09,813
Speaker 19: the directors of the film were there, and a couple

951
00:50:09,853 --> 00:50:12,493
Speaker 19: of the producers, and they they they were.

952
00:50:12,373 --> 00:50:15,333
Speaker 18: Scratching their heads about how to do you know, the

953
00:50:15,453 --> 00:50:17,373
Speaker 18: song with Kuna Matata.

954
00:50:16,853 --> 00:50:19,773
Speaker 19: Where where the where the lion the lion king goes

955
00:50:19,813 --> 00:50:23,413
Speaker 19: from being a little kid into being an adolescent.

956
00:50:22,893 --> 00:50:25,973
Speaker 18: And then and then on from there. And they weren't

957
00:50:26,013 --> 00:50:27,413
Speaker 18: sure how they were going to pull it off.

958
00:50:27,413 --> 00:50:30,333
Speaker 19: And uh, they had a couple of lines in that song,

959
00:50:30,373 --> 00:50:33,133
Speaker 19: and my wife said, don't you just leave them out

960
00:50:33,133 --> 00:50:35,773
Speaker 19: there in the booth and ask them to just, you know,

961
00:50:35,853 --> 00:50:39,733
Speaker 19: ad lib something. And so that's what happened, and they

962
00:50:39,933 --> 00:50:42,333
Speaker 19: liked what I did, So I ended up I ended

963
00:50:42,413 --> 00:50:45,413
Speaker 19: up in that film in a in a kind of

964
00:50:45,453 --> 00:50:51,293
Speaker 19: memorable way, very very lucky break, and uh, something I'm

965
00:50:52,253 --> 00:50:53,973
Speaker 19: very very happy happened.

966
00:50:54,013 --> 00:50:56,733
Speaker 18: And still that's another one that kind of holds up.

967
00:50:57,253 --> 00:51:00,173
Speaker 4: It certainly does it, certainly does. I think you've got

968
00:51:00,173 --> 00:51:03,493
Speaker 4: a neck of being involved somehow, Jock. Look, thank you

969
00:51:03,533 --> 00:51:05,693
Speaker 4: so much for your time. We really appreciate it. And

970
00:51:05,733 --> 00:51:09,573
Speaker 4: I know I'm so many Kiwi fans are just delighted

971
00:51:09,693 --> 00:51:11,613
Speaker 4: that you're going to be playing here soon, so travel

972
00:51:11,653 --> 00:51:13,813
Speaker 4: safely and we look forward to seeing you on our shores.

973
00:51:14,773 --> 00:51:16,973
Speaker 18: Great my pleasure. We'll see you THEREK That.

974
00:51:17,013 --> 00:51:19,973
Speaker 4: Is Joe Williams from Toto. So Toto, We're coming to Auckland,

975
00:51:20,013 --> 00:51:23,893
Speaker 4: Wellington and christ Church next month. Get in quick, especially

976
00:51:23,933 --> 00:51:25,373
Speaker 4: if you want to get to that christ Church show,

977
00:51:25,373 --> 00:51:27,733
Speaker 4: because tickets are selling really quickly and all of the

978
00:51:27,773 --> 00:51:31,093
Speaker 4: details for getting tickets to Toto and Christopher Cross are

979
00:51:31,093 --> 00:51:33,773
Speaker 4: going to be up on our website Newstalks headb dot

980
00:51:33,773 --> 00:51:35,053
Speaker 4: co dot in seed. I mean.

981
00:51:36,493 --> 00:51:36,893
Speaker 3: It does.

982
00:51:37,013 --> 00:51:39,533
Speaker 4: Joe has just said like a connection with just has

983
00:51:39,533 --> 00:51:42,093
Speaker 4: a connection with so many amazing kind of catchy songs.

984
00:51:42,093 --> 00:51:42,253
Speaker 5: Eh.

985
00:51:42,693 --> 00:51:43,173
Speaker 3: Do you know what?

986
00:51:43,213 --> 00:51:45,413
Speaker 4: Though, controversially I actually reckon hold the line as a

987
00:51:45,413 --> 00:51:46,613
Speaker 4: better song than Africa?

988
00:51:46,773 --> 00:51:47,093
Speaker 5: Is that?

989
00:51:47,173 --> 00:51:47,413
Speaker 2: Oh?

990
00:51:47,853 --> 00:51:50,813
Speaker 4: Is it a controversial take? Anyway? Let me know your thoughts.

991
00:51:50,933 --> 00:51:53,293
Speaker 4: Ninety two ninety two is our text number jacket Newstalks

992
00:51:53,293 --> 00:51:55,853
Speaker 4: hedb dot co dot nz. It's my email address. In

993
00:51:55,853 --> 00:51:57,973
Speaker 4: a couple of minutes we'll get our screen time picks

994
00:51:57,973 --> 00:52:00,013
Speaker 4: for this weekend on News Talks. He'd be It's nineteen

995
00:52:00,093 --> 00:52:00,573
Speaker 4: past ten.

996
00:52:01,573 --> 00:52:05,053
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack

997
00:52:05,133 --> 00:52:09,373
Speaker 1: Tame and beep you inst for high quality supplements used.

998
00:52:09,413 --> 00:52:10,133
Speaker 5: Talk z EDB.

999
00:52:10,293 --> 00:52:13,733
Speaker 4: Twenty two past ten on News Talks. EDB was Taraward,

1000
00:52:14,133 --> 00:52:17,733
Speaker 4: our screen Time Experts recommendation that first turned me on

1001
00:52:17,773 --> 00:52:20,813
Speaker 4: too Adolescents, And Tara's back with us this morning is

1002
00:52:20,853 --> 00:52:23,133
Speaker 4: she is every Saturday with her picks for this week.

1003
00:52:23,173 --> 00:52:25,653
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Tara. It was an amazing show.

1004
00:52:25,773 --> 00:52:28,813
Speaker 4: It really really was, and it has just Yeah, I

1005
00:52:28,853 --> 00:52:30,373
Speaker 4: just cannot stop thinking about it.

1006
00:52:31,253 --> 00:52:33,293
Speaker 10: Oh, I'm the same. I watched it two weeks ago

1007
00:52:33,373 --> 00:52:36,053
Speaker 10: and I'm still thinking about it every day and now

1008
00:52:36,093 --> 00:52:38,493
Speaker 10: I'm reading everything i can about how they made it

1009
00:52:38,533 --> 00:52:41,093
Speaker 10: and how they pulled off that single shot and how

1010
00:52:41,093 --> 00:52:43,533
Speaker 10: they did that amazing drone shot and episode two. It's

1011
00:52:43,613 --> 00:52:46,333
Speaker 10: just kind of got into my head and thinking about

1012
00:52:46,373 --> 00:52:47,733
Speaker 10: it in so many different ways, and I think that's

1013
00:52:47,773 --> 00:52:49,453
Speaker 10: the same for lots of other people who have watched it.

1014
00:52:49,573 --> 00:52:49,773
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1015
00:52:49,813 --> 00:52:52,533
Speaker 4: It's funny, how because you know, in a way, it's

1016
00:52:52,573 --> 00:52:54,973
Speaker 4: kind of a it's a relatively simple concept, but it's

1017
00:52:54,973 --> 00:52:59,773
Speaker 4: just kind of a simple concept, exquisitely done, perfectly done,

1018
00:52:59,813 --> 00:53:00,013
Speaker 4: you know.

1019
00:53:00,693 --> 00:53:03,213
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's so rare to have a TV show like

1020
00:53:03,253 --> 00:53:05,813
Speaker 10: Adolescents where every single part of it works. There's no

1021
00:53:06,493 --> 00:53:09,133
Speaker 10: a weak point in it. You know, the writing is perfect,

1022
00:53:09,133 --> 00:53:12,733
Speaker 10: the acting is phenomenal, the story feels very realistic and relatable,

1023
00:53:12,773 --> 00:53:15,493
Speaker 10: and it just all comes together in an incredible way.

1024
00:53:15,653 --> 00:53:17,813
Speaker 4: Well, my thanks to you, because that turned out to

1025
00:53:17,853 --> 00:53:20,853
Speaker 4: be a superb recommendation. And it's not just me who

1026
00:53:20,893 --> 00:53:23,453
Speaker 4: says it. It's something like eighty five million people who

1027
00:53:23,573 --> 00:53:28,413
Speaker 4: now streamed it on Netflix. It's absolutely destroyed the records

1028
00:53:28,573 --> 00:53:30,813
Speaker 4: or all of the previous streaming records, which I guess.

1029
00:53:30,613 --> 00:53:31,013
Speaker 2: Is no great.

1030
00:53:31,053 --> 00:53:31,733
Speaker 5: That's amazing.

1031
00:53:31,893 --> 00:53:35,253
Speaker 10: Yeah, And there wasn't a lot of hype to it.

1032
00:53:35,293 --> 00:53:37,573
Speaker 10: It just kind of dropped, And I think maybe that's

1033
00:53:37,573 --> 00:53:39,253
Speaker 10: why we're all caught up on it too, because there

1034
00:53:39,293 --> 00:53:42,413
Speaker 10: were no expectations. We just have watched it all together

1035
00:53:42,453 --> 00:53:44,453
Speaker 10: and we're all talking about it together, which doesn't happen

1036
00:53:44,693 --> 00:53:46,373
Speaker 10: quite as much as it used to a television show.

1037
00:53:46,493 --> 00:53:48,613
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you just, you know, people sort of

1038
00:53:48,653 --> 00:53:51,173
Speaker 4: let the show do the talking, and it's spread by

1039
00:53:51,213 --> 00:53:54,453
Speaker 4: word of mouth and by recommendations on screen time on

1040
00:53:54,493 --> 00:53:57,213
Speaker 4: Saturday mornings, on newsbooks. He'd be So we've got three

1041
00:53:57,213 --> 00:54:00,333
Speaker 4: shows for this weekend. No pressure living up to that pack.

1042
00:54:01,413 --> 00:54:03,933
Speaker 4: Let's start off with a new show streaming on Neon

1043
00:54:04,133 --> 00:54:07,573
Speaker 4: starring Timothy Spall. Tell us about the Sixth Commandment.

1044
00:54:08,613 --> 00:54:12,293
Speaker 10: If you want another chilling drama to watch this week's recommendation.

1045
00:54:12,373 --> 00:54:15,453
Speaker 10: This is a BBC drama. It won a BAFTA last

1046
00:54:15,533 --> 00:54:18,373
Speaker 10: year for Best Limited Drama and it stars Timothy Spall,

1047
00:54:18,373 --> 00:54:21,053
Speaker 10: who won both a Bafter and an International Emmy for

1048
00:54:21,093 --> 00:54:24,093
Speaker 10: this role. And it's another one of those quality British

1049
00:54:24,133 --> 00:54:26,733
Speaker 10: productions that just sort of takes every box. The writing

1050
00:54:26,813 --> 00:54:29,533
Speaker 10: is by Sarah Phelps, The acting is beautifully done, and

1051
00:54:29,573 --> 00:54:32,853
Speaker 10: the story is really compelling. It's based on a true

1052
00:54:32,893 --> 00:54:36,053
Speaker 10: story and it's about a retired school teacher who's played

1053
00:54:36,053 --> 00:54:39,573
Speaker 10: by Timothy Spaull and his elderly neighbor who are both

1054
00:54:39,653 --> 00:54:43,693
Speaker 10: quite lonely, vulnerable people. They become friends with a young

1055
00:54:43,733 --> 00:54:46,333
Speaker 10: man named Ben and both fall in love with him,

1056
00:54:46,413 --> 00:54:49,053
Speaker 10: and Ben, of course is not her. He seems. He

1057
00:54:49,133 --> 00:54:53,093
Speaker 10: befriends them and makes himself indispensable in their lives. He

1058
00:54:53,213 --> 00:54:57,653
Speaker 10: persuades both of them to update their wills and leave

1059
00:54:57,893 --> 00:55:01,013
Speaker 10: everything to him, and then he tries to murder them.

1060
00:55:01,133 --> 00:55:04,013
Speaker 10: And it's a true story, very shocking, and the show

1061
00:55:04,053 --> 00:55:07,013
Speaker 10: doesn't shy away from that, but it's very British in

1062
00:55:07,013 --> 00:55:10,453
Speaker 10: the way that nothing here is over the top or sensationalise.

1063
00:55:10,573 --> 00:55:14,533
Speaker 10: It all just unfolds in a very understated way that

1064
00:55:14,613 --> 00:55:16,773
Speaker 10: makes it quite uncomfortable to watch at times. But the

1065
00:55:16,773 --> 00:55:21,293
Speaker 10: tragedy of the story is quiet and uneasy and quite haunting.

1066
00:55:21,373 --> 00:55:22,813
Speaker 10: And I think that's the power of it, that this

1067
00:55:22,893 --> 00:55:26,453
Speaker 10: doesn't need any over the top embellishing. Timothy Spall is

1068
00:55:26,493 --> 00:55:28,253
Speaker 10: so good in this. I mean, he's always good, but

1069
00:55:28,293 --> 00:55:30,973
Speaker 10: he's incredible in this. He pulls you on right from

1070
00:55:30,973 --> 00:55:33,853
Speaker 10: his start as this very lonely man of faith. And

1071
00:55:34,533 --> 00:55:37,133
Speaker 10: you know, if you want something intense but very carefully

1072
00:55:37,133 --> 00:55:39,053
Speaker 10: and thoughtfully made that you can just sort of slowly

1073
00:55:39,093 --> 00:55:41,893
Speaker 10: work your way through four episodes, this is a great watch.

1074
00:55:42,253 --> 00:55:47,493
Speaker 4: Great That's the sixth Commandment on Apple TV. Plus the Studio.

1075
00:55:48,013 --> 00:55:50,693
Speaker 10: There's something very different. This is a new satire that

1076
00:55:50,773 --> 00:55:54,373
Speaker 10: stars Seth Rogan and a long list of famous Hollywood

1077
00:55:54,413 --> 00:55:57,493
Speaker 10: guest stars. It's a comedy that's poking fun at the

1078
00:55:57,493 --> 00:56:00,493
Speaker 10: movie industry and Seth Rogan plays the head of a

1079
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Speaker 10: movie studio and he wants to make these meaningful art

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00:56:04,293 --> 00:56:08,093
Speaker 10: house films, but he is employed purely to make the huge,

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00:56:08,333 --> 00:56:13,053
Speaker 10: pointless billion dollar blockbusters, and so for his first film

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Speaker 10: in the job, he tries to do both, to make

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00:56:15,173 --> 00:56:18,693
Speaker 10: a very beautiful, worthy film about the drink kool Aid,

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Speaker 10: but also makes a lot of money. And so everything

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Speaker 10: is a juggle. There's egos to manage, there's deals to

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Speaker 10: be done, there's lies to be told, and Seth Rogan's

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Speaker 10: character is continually moving and shouting and trying to convince

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Speaker 10: everyone that he knows what he's doing. And so there's

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Speaker 10: a lot of clever industry in jokes in the show,

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Speaker 10: and it's very self aware and I think if you

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Speaker 10: watch a lot of movies, or if you're interested in

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Speaker 10: the in the workings of Hollywood and America, then you'll

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Speaker 10: get a lot more out of this. But the big

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Speaker 10: pull to the show is the cameos. Everyone from Catherine

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Speaker 10: O'Hara to Martin Scorsesey to Charlie's theirn zach Efron pops

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Speaker 10: up on this. It's like, you know, spot the Celebrity. So,

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Speaker 10: you know, a really clever show, very fast and punchy back,

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Speaker 10: quite silly and over the top as well, and just

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Speaker 10: quite resh refreshing to see something that doesn't take itself

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Speaker 10: to seriously, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That sounds nice, But my gosh, that's a hell of

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Speaker 4: a line up, isn't it.

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Speaker 10: I know, every episode full of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So that's the studio that's on Apple TV

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Speaker 4: Plus and on three now the last Anniversary.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. This is a new Australian drama based on the

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Speaker 10: book by Leanne Moriarty, who of course wrote Big Little

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Speaker 10: Lies and Nine Perfect Strangers. And this is the latest

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Speaker 10: novel to be adapted for at TV. And it's about

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Speaker 10: a family who live on a remote island in Australia

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Speaker 10: near Sydney, and when the matriarch of the family dies,

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Speaker 10: she leaves her house to a stranger, effectively much to

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Speaker 10: the dismay of the rest of the family. And the

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Speaker 10: stranger's arrival on the island and what that represents kick

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00:57:49,253 --> 00:57:53,933
Speaker 10: starts all of these long hidden, deep buried family secrets

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Speaker 10: coming to the surface. So it's a family saga, it's

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Speaker 10: a romance, it's about motherhood and relationships. There were lots

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Speaker 10: of characters introduced in the first episode, so I'm hoping

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Speaker 10: that it will settle down and find its own comfortable

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Speaker 10: paces a go on, because it's a really easy to watch,

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Speaker 10: quite moody and atmospheric thriller, A little bit so be

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Speaker 10: but in a good way, but a great way, mistery thriller.

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Speaker 4: Very good. Okay, cool, that sounds great. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Tara will put all of those recommendations on the news

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Speaker 4: talks there B website. The show is once again. The

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Speaker 4: Sixth Commandment is on Neon. That's the one with Timothy Spall.

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Speaker 4: The studio is on Apple TV Plus, and the Last

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Speaker 4: Anniversary is on three. Now, Jack, what was the Netflix

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00:58:32,213 --> 00:58:34,253
Speaker 4: show you were talking about? Jack, what's the wonderful show

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Speaker 4: you've just been recommending? I started, I started the program

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Speaker 4: this morning by talking about Adolescents, which is this incredible

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Speaker 4: show on Netflix. Four episodes. Tara recommended it to us

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00:58:46,253 --> 00:58:47,693
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, and so I went and

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Speaker 4: watched it, and it's one of those shows that just

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Speaker 4: stays with you. It stays with you for so long afterwards,

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Speaker 4: you find yourself kind of turning over all of the

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Speaker 4: events and scenes in your head in the middle of

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Speaker 4: the night and yeah, I'm not the only one that's

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00:58:59,493 --> 00:59:02,373
Speaker 4: broken all sorts of streaming records. And not because it's

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Speaker 4: a real whiz bang production, not because it has you know,

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Speaker 4: big fiery car, you know car chase scenes or anything

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Speaker 4: like that, just because it's amazing storytelling, really affecting storytelling.

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Speaker 4: So if you haven't seen it yet, Adolescence on Netflix,

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Speaker 4: I will warn you it's kind of disturbing. It is upsetting.

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Speaker 4: It it's devastating. Really not not gruesome or you know,

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Speaker 4: gaulish or you know, kind of horror or anything like that,

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Speaker 4: but just really affecting. That's the word I keep coming

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Speaker 4: back to. So Adolescence on Netflix, I will recommend for

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Speaker 4: the last time this morning. I promise it's just gone

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Speaker 4: ten thirty before eleven o'clock on Newstalks. He'd be we're

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Speaker 4: in the garden, given the weather is cooling, daylight saving

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00:59:42,933 --> 00:59:45,973
Speaker 4: next weekend. Our man in the garden, Rooge climb Pass

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00:59:46,053 --> 00:59:48,413
Speaker 4: has all the things you need to do if you

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Speaker 4: want to grow your tomatoes next season from seed. So

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Speaker 4: if you want to save seeing me tomatoes from your

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Speaker 4: garden the season you've had a great crop, they're starting

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00:59:56,093 --> 00:59:58,173
Speaker 4: to they're starting to die off. Now if you've got

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Speaker 4: any left, I'm pretty impressed, to be perfectly honest, But

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Speaker 4: he's got the things you need to do in order

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Speaker 4: to grow tomatoes from seeds next season. The things you

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Speaker 4: need to do in preparing this now right now, ten.

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Speaker 5: Getting your weekend started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks.

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Speaker 21: B Will we will We Boil?

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Speaker 4: It's the banjo's The sound is unmistakable. Mumford and Sons,

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01:00:48,853 --> 01:00:52,573
Speaker 4: of course, are the British folk rockers that sent the

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Speaker 4: template for a sort of beard positive, emotional but spirited

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Speaker 4: man pop that paved the way for more recent acts

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Speaker 4: like The Lumineas Hosier and Noah Khan. I'm into it.

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Speaker 4: I don't mind a bit of Manvid and Sons. It

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Speaker 4: sort of feels like the sort of thing you have

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Speaker 4: to be embarrassed about these days, but I've never embarrassed

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Speaker 4: about the music.

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Speaker 22: I like.

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Speaker 4: Their last album, though, was Ages Ago. That was Delta,

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Speaker 4: as in that was the name of the album, not

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Speaker 4: the not the COVID nineteen strain. But it was before

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Speaker 4: COVID nineteen. It was way back in twenty eighteen, and

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Speaker 4: things have changed a whole lot for Mumford and Sons

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Speaker 4: in the time since. So their banjo player has left

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Speaker 4: the band following outcry after he praised an alt right agitator.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine it Mumford and Sons with no banjo player.

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Speaker 4: My goodness. Anyway, they've now slimmed down to a three

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Speaker 4: piece for album number five. They're using it as a

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Speaker 4: bit of a new beginning, a bit of a fresh start.

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Speaker 4: The album is called rush Meir and it's named after

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Speaker 4: a pond on Wimbledon Common, which is close to where

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Speaker 4: they formed back in two thousand and seven. So anyway,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have a bit of a listen to the

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Speaker 4: new sound of Munford and Sons before midday today, our

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Speaker 4: music reviewer will be in to give us her thoughts

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Speaker 4: on Rushma as well. Regarding Toto, though Jack I introduced

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Speaker 4: my son Sam to the song Africa, belting it out

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01:02:11,973 --> 01:02:13,653
Speaker 4: in the car when he was about seven years old.

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Speaker 4: He's now twenty one and shouting it to me this morning,

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Speaker 4: shouting me to Toto later this month. Cannot wait, says Simon.

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Speaker 4: That's specially. I remember my dad loved Stinging the Police,

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Speaker 4: and I remember, you know, we kind of grew up

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Speaker 4: with that sound and grew up with lots of blues

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Speaker 4: and stuff, and I remember going to you know, like

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Speaker 4: as a young adult, as an eighteen year old or

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Speaker 4: twenty year old or whatever. The police came and played

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Speaker 4: in New Zealand and we went as a whole family

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Speaker 4: and it was just there was something so special about

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Speaker 4: as kids having been brought up with mama Dad's music

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Speaker 4: and then going to that artist. So yeah, maybe you'll

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Speaker 4: get to experience the same thing, Simon Jack. I think

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Speaker 4: adolescence is a great drama. It's confronting rather than disturbing.

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Speaker 4: As a mother of four teenagers, I can totally relate

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Speaker 4: to the surprises life can throw it you, says Nolene.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for that, Nolean ninety two ninety two. If you

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Speaker 4: want to send us a message, our texpert is in

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Speaker 4: in a couple of minutes. Right now, it's twenty five

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Speaker 4: to eleven. You're with Jack tame as News doalg zedb.

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Speaker 1: Digging into the issues that affect you the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 23: Very good news from the government on the crackdown on

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Speaker 23: consultancy spending though, so they're looking to save eight hundred

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Speaker 23: million dollars over a couple of years being that done

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Speaker 23: at Finance Minister Nikola Willis what was eight hundred million

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Speaker 23: dollars being spent?

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Speaker 24: I think we had developed a culture in the public

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Speaker 24: service where if you wanted to get someone to give

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Speaker 24: you some graphs and some numbers, tended to a consultant,

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01:03:33,973 --> 01:03:36,493
Speaker 24: get then to do a powerpoints heet of slides for

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Speaker 24: the minister. And it had become so endemic. The money

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Speaker 24: being spend had just sawed out quite dramatically to more

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Speaker 24: than a billion dollars. And the minute that we came

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Speaker 24: in and said, are not happening anymore, those numbers drove

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Speaker 24: down quickly. But ultimately public servants are capable.

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Speaker 14: They can do their stuff themselves.

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Speaker 23: Back Monday from six am, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 23: the Rain drove of the last news Talk ZEDB twenty.

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Speaker 4: Two minutes two eleven non News Talk ZEDB. DNA is

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Speaker 4: up for sale. That really popular company for DNA testing

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01:04:08,733 --> 01:04:11,813
Speaker 4: twenty three and meters has filed for bankruptcy, which means

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Speaker 4: the DNA results of fifteen million customers are potentially out

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Speaker 4: for sale. Our textbit Paulstinehouse has the details. Paul, should

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Speaker 4: we be worried?

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Speaker 15: Is it just first of all, isn't it just like

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01:04:22,773 --> 01:04:26,173
Speaker 15: a dystopian line to say? It's kind of like something

1241
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Speaker 15: out of the Black Mirror episodes on Netflix?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: You know, yeah, what are we going to do? It's

1244
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Speaker 15: actually DNA is for sale, and it's crazy that that

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01:04:35,973 --> 01:04:39,373
Speaker 15: is the major asset of that company, right, Yeah, that

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01:04:39,533 --> 01:04:42,693
Speaker 15: is the thing that they have and they sell. And

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Speaker 15: here's where it gets crazier, Jack, Not only have they

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Speaker 15: you know, sequenced the DNA, you could actually opt and

1249
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Speaker 15: I guess you still can opt to actually have them

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Speaker 15: store your saliva sample, your physical saliva sample.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so people are now and.

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Speaker 15: On the advice of very you know, big figures, New

1253
01:05:03,133 --> 01:05:06,093
Speaker 15: York's Attorney General basically said to customers, it might be

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01:05:06,133 --> 01:05:09,293
Speaker 15: time to take action to safeguard your data. And people

1255
01:05:09,293 --> 01:05:13,013
Speaker 15: are doing that. They're going to the website, they are

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01:05:13,053 --> 01:05:16,453
Speaker 15: trying to delete their data and trying to get them

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01:05:16,533 --> 01:05:20,533
Speaker 15: to remove their samples from I don't know the vault

1258
01:05:20,693 --> 01:05:23,733
Speaker 15: or the cold storage or whatever they're stored in, but

1259
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Speaker 15: the website's been going down. And there's a really interesting

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01:05:27,413 --> 01:05:30,813
Speaker 15: point that one of the lawmakers in California who put

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Speaker 15: in some of the US's most strict privacy laws, right,

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Speaker 15: he's made a very interesting point.

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Speaker 4: He's that great.

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Speaker 15: I love that we have the privacy.

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Speaker 22: Laws, but they are now being tested because if you've

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Speaker 22: got a company that's filed for bankruptcy. Yeah, what happens

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01:05:45,293 --> 01:05:49,333
Speaker 22: if the numbers of employees are cut? Who is there

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01:05:49,413 --> 01:05:55,613
Speaker 22: to actually help process the electronic delete request? But who's

1269
01:05:55,613 --> 01:05:58,573
Speaker 22: going to be there actually physically this In this case,

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Speaker 22: there's physical person data that you need to destroy it

1271
01:06:01,893 --> 01:06:04,533
Speaker 22: as well. And if you think about all these people

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Speaker 22: going to this website to delete their data, can a

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Speaker 22: company actually handle tens of thousands of requests.

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Speaker 25: In a couple of days, a couple.

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Speaker 15: Of weeks like whatever it might look like.

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Speaker 22: Because I don't know if you know this, there are

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Speaker 22: some really old systems around there.

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Speaker 15: If you ever unsubscribed from an email and you think,

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01:06:22,173 --> 01:06:24,053
Speaker 15: why am I still getting emails? Or it says it's

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Speaker 15: going to take seven to ten business days, sometimes it's

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Speaker 15: because that involves an actual person getting maybe an email

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Speaker 15: themselves that says, go and delete Jack Tame from this database,

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Speaker 15: this database, this database.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 15: So I'm not saying that is.

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Speaker 3: How twenty three and meters is, but like you can imagine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what I really can like it could be chaos definitely, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's it is a bit kind of stopian. Ah, And

1289
01:06:48,933 --> 01:06:52,213
Speaker 4: you can just imagine for insurance companies or anyone else

1290
01:06:52,293 --> 01:06:58,733
Speaker 4: how vague that information might be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, Hey,

1291
01:06:58,573 --> 01:07:01,973
Speaker 4: the AI note taker otter, which I've used a little

1292
01:07:01,973 --> 01:07:05,493
Speaker 4: bit that it gets used by companies and meetings and

1293
01:07:05,533 --> 01:07:07,853
Speaker 4: that kind of thing, you know, to listen to the

1294
01:07:07,853 --> 01:07:11,693
Speaker 4: conversations and write up notes, but now has opinions it does.

1295
01:07:12,053 --> 01:07:13,053
Speaker 15: I mean, it is very handy.

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01:07:13,093 --> 01:07:13,813
Speaker 4: It takes notes.

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Speaker 15: I don't know about you, but people are not very

1298
01:07:15,733 --> 01:07:16,413
Speaker 15: good at taking notes.

1299
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, I always.

1300
01:07:17,693 --> 01:07:19,653
Speaker 15: Forget that you're supposed to do something, but the AI

1301
01:07:19,733 --> 01:07:22,813
Speaker 15: helps with that. But it's been listening, and yes, it's

1302
01:07:22,853 --> 01:07:26,013
Speaker 15: been deciding, and it's been analyzing data and oddo. AI

1303
01:07:26,133 --> 01:07:30,013
Speaker 15: is now slowly rolling out some new tools that some

1304
01:07:30,013 --> 01:07:31,853
Speaker 15: of these are kind of creepy. So you can actually

1305
01:07:31,973 --> 01:07:35,173
Speaker 15: summon the AI kind of during the meeting because it's there,

1306
01:07:35,213 --> 01:07:37,693
Speaker 15: you see it in the participants list, so you can

1307
01:07:37,733 --> 01:07:39,893
Speaker 15: kind of ask it like Siri to do things now

1308
01:07:39,973 --> 01:07:42,573
Speaker 15: like send an email or look up meeting information and

1309
01:07:42,613 --> 01:07:44,533
Speaker 15: things that it has in its database. Wouldn't it be

1310
01:07:44,533 --> 01:07:47,213
Speaker 15: great if you were like, hey, on AI, did Jack

1311
01:07:47,293 --> 01:07:48,973
Speaker 15: actually do that thing he said he was going to

1312
01:07:49,013 --> 01:07:49,893
Speaker 15: do in the last meeting?

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01:07:50,973 --> 01:07:51,053
Speaker 17: No?

1314
01:07:51,813 --> 01:07:52,213
Speaker 5: Oops?

1315
01:07:53,213 --> 01:07:55,093
Speaker 15: But it also this is the one that got me.

1316
01:07:55,973 --> 01:08:01,253
Speaker 15: It also can do live sales coaching. So you're on

1317
01:08:01,293 --> 01:08:04,013
Speaker 15: the call and you know, there's you Jack the salesperson.

1318
01:08:04,373 --> 01:08:07,293
Speaker 15: You know you're doing your best pitch. The ALI is

1319
01:08:07,413 --> 01:08:10,693
Speaker 15: chirping in giving you messages and things saying actually, Jack,

1320
01:08:11,253 --> 01:08:14,013
Speaker 15: you shouldn't be talking so much. Actually Jack, remember he

1321
01:08:14,133 --> 01:08:16,813
Speaker 15: is the line you should be saying. Yeah, And it

1322
01:08:16,893 --> 01:08:19,173
Speaker 15: also gives you information on how to handle complaints.

1323
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Speaker 9: Isn't that funny?

1324
01:08:20,213 --> 01:08:20,853
Speaker 4: That's amazing.

1325
01:08:21,053 --> 01:08:22,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so ridiculous.

1326
01:08:22,893 --> 01:08:25,373
Speaker 15: I mean it's great, but it's ridiculous and scary and

1327
01:08:25,453 --> 01:08:27,693
Speaker 15: terrifying and cool all exactly the same.

1328
01:08:27,773 --> 01:08:27,973
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1329
01:08:28,053 --> 01:08:29,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's like AOD way to summ it that.

1330
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Paul. That's our textbo Paul Stenhouse before eleven

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01:08:32,773 --> 01:08:35,733
Speaker 4: o'clock tips on how to grow tomatoes from seed and

1332
01:08:35,773 --> 01:08:37,533
Speaker 4: what you need to do to save the seeds from

1333
01:08:37,613 --> 01:08:41,453
Speaker 4: your crop this summer before the weather finally turns. Seventeen

1334
01:08:41,493 --> 01:08:42,613
Speaker 4: to eleven, A little bit.

1335
01:08:42,573 --> 01:08:43,773
Speaker 5: Of way to kick off your weekend.

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01:08:43,893 --> 01:08:47,253
Speaker 1: Then with Jack, Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and beep

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Speaker 1: it dot co dot nz for high quality supplements used

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Speaker 1: talks EDB.

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Speaker 4: Quarter to eleven on News talks 'b after eleven o'clock,

1340
01:08:54,213 --> 01:08:56,853
Speaker 4: our travel correspondent has a very tough gig at the moment.

1341
01:08:56,933 --> 01:08:59,653
Speaker 4: He's currently plotting his way across Europe, but he's doing

1342
01:08:59,693 --> 01:09:02,933
Speaker 4: it overland and he's doing it on trains, which I

1343
01:09:03,053 --> 01:09:05,973
Speaker 4: think just has to be the best way to travel

1344
01:09:06,013 --> 01:09:06,853
Speaker 4: through that part.

1345
01:09:06,653 --> 01:09:07,133
Speaker 5: Of the world.

1346
01:09:07,253 --> 01:09:12,253
Speaker 4: Anyway. He's picked out a selection of Europe's best railway restaurants,

1347
01:09:12,413 --> 01:09:15,693
Speaker 4: so restaurants that are in railway stations in Europe. He's

1348
01:09:15,693 --> 01:09:17,573
Speaker 4: going to share those with us after eleven this morning,

1349
01:09:17,613 --> 01:09:20,133
Speaker 4: so I'm really looking forward to that. Right now, though,

1350
01:09:20,173 --> 01:09:22,653
Speaker 4: it is fourteen to eleven on news Doorg seed B,

1351
01:09:22,773 --> 01:09:24,933
Speaker 4: which means it's wine o'clock and time to catch up

1352
01:09:24,973 --> 01:09:27,733
Speaker 4: with Master Somalier. Cameron Douglas is with us this morning.

1353
01:09:27,773 --> 01:09:30,133
Speaker 3: Cal to Cameron, Kyoda, good morning.

1354
01:09:30,413 --> 01:09:31,013
Speaker 26: Nice to be here.

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01:09:31,093 --> 01:09:33,533
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice to be chatting with you. You've chosen a Pegasus

1356
01:09:33,573 --> 01:09:36,813
Speaker 4: Bay Chardonnay from twenty twenty two for us this week,

1357
01:09:36,853 --> 01:09:38,533
Speaker 4: So tell us about the wine. What does it taste like?

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01:09:39,893 --> 01:09:45,253
Speaker 27: Well, Shardonay is one of those great New Zealand fines,

1359
01:09:45,613 --> 01:09:49,893
Speaker 27: and with Pegasus Bay we've got a much fuller bodied expression,

1360
01:09:50,013 --> 01:09:53,853
Speaker 27: something that a lot of Shardeney fans like, and it's

1361
01:09:54,093 --> 01:10:00,253
Speaker 27: packed with structure, nice fine tannins, and full bodied flavors

1362
01:10:00,253 --> 01:10:04,013
Speaker 27: of pineapple and vanilla. There's just enough toasty yolk and

1363
01:10:04,053 --> 01:10:07,733
Speaker 27: it's well aged, great flavors on the pell, great texture,

1364
01:10:08,133 --> 01:10:12,413
Speaker 27: something that ticks the boxes for everybody who like sharden.

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01:10:12,133 --> 01:10:14,493
Speaker 4: May and Pegasus Bay have a real reputation for the

1366
01:10:14,533 --> 01:10:16,493
Speaker 4: sort of stuff a oh gosh.

1367
01:10:16,533 --> 01:10:17,013
Speaker 5: Yes, you know.

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01:10:17,053 --> 01:10:20,293
Speaker 27: They're located in North Camp to bring in the Waipra.

1369
01:10:20,093 --> 01:10:22,693
Speaker 14: Valley area and their.

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Speaker 27: Grapes grow largely on this glass and even soils with

1371
01:10:26,013 --> 01:10:28,373
Speaker 27: a little bit of limestone going through. And what that

1372
01:10:28,493 --> 01:10:32,173
Speaker 27: means for the wine is great purity of fruit, great

1373
01:10:32,293 --> 01:10:36,853
Speaker 27: acid line, and fruit that's ripe enough to really find

1374
01:10:36,893 --> 01:10:38,533
Speaker 27: a nice happy place with oak.

1375
01:10:38,853 --> 01:10:40,293
Speaker 4: Oh yees, So how oaky is it?

1376
01:10:41,893 --> 01:10:45,493
Speaker 27: Well, they use puncheons to ferment the wine and age

1377
01:10:45,493 --> 01:10:49,333
Speaker 27: the wine, so it's not about full on, full throttle

1378
01:10:49,413 --> 01:10:53,053
Speaker 27: oak power. It's actually more about the subtlety and the

1379
01:10:53,213 --> 01:10:55,933
Speaker 27: complexity that oak brings to sharden May.

1380
01:10:56,173 --> 01:10:56,413
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:10:56,533 --> 01:11:00,413
Speaker 4: Right, nice. So the twenty twenty two vintage sells for

1382
01:11:00,413 --> 01:11:02,693
Speaker 4: about forty five dollars a bottle. What would you pair

1383
01:11:02,773 --> 01:11:03,733
Speaker 4: it with? Do you think Cameron.

1384
01:11:04,893 --> 01:11:06,813
Speaker 27: Well, it's up there in terms of so I know

1385
01:11:06,893 --> 01:11:11,253
Speaker 27: that much. But in terms of pairing, you need an

1386
01:11:11,333 --> 01:11:15,693
Speaker 27: equally rich and full bodied food. So salmon with skin on,

1387
01:11:16,013 --> 01:11:20,773
Speaker 27: pans sea it or baked and topped with a soy glaze, touches,

1388
01:11:20,893 --> 01:11:24,133
Speaker 27: all of you know, all the excitement.

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01:11:23,653 --> 01:11:24,573
Speaker 5: Boxes as well.

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01:11:24,653 --> 01:11:27,853
Speaker 27: You serve it with a little bit of lentil, something earthy,

1391
01:11:27,973 --> 01:11:30,733
Speaker 27: something green, or baked jacket potato, that kind of thing

1392
01:11:30,773 --> 01:11:31,533
Speaker 27: with sour cream.

1393
01:11:31,813 --> 01:11:36,533
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that so good. Yeah, and it's you know,

1394
01:11:36,733 --> 01:11:39,933
Speaker 4: it's okay, we're getting into the kind of autumnal weather

1395
01:11:39,973 --> 01:11:43,693
Speaker 4: a little bit now. The daytime temperatures are still hot,

1396
01:11:43,693 --> 01:11:47,293
Speaker 4: but you reckon this time of year. That's the kind

1397
01:11:47,293 --> 01:11:49,053
Speaker 4: of right sort of dish because Chardona is a nice

1398
01:11:49,093 --> 01:11:52,893
Speaker 4: sort of you know, in between season option A.

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Speaker 8: It certainly is.

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01:11:54,733 --> 01:11:56,373
Speaker 27: You know, I'm looking out the window now and it's

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01:11:56,413 --> 01:11:59,093
Speaker 27: a blue sky, but I know by about five o'clock

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01:11:59,133 --> 01:12:01,573
Speaker 27: this afternoon it's going to get a little coolest. So

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01:12:02,173 --> 01:12:04,853
Speaker 27: a wine like this gives you that transition, as you

1404
01:12:04,933 --> 01:12:08,613
Speaker 27: put it, in between that autumn winter period where we

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01:12:08,693 --> 01:12:12,533
Speaker 27: want something a little richer and fuller and a little

1406
01:12:12,573 --> 01:12:14,773
Speaker 27: bit more alcohol in there. That just you know, warm

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01:12:14,933 --> 01:12:18,613
Speaker 27: warms the tummy a little bit more. And with food

1408
01:12:18,733 --> 01:12:21,933
Speaker 27: like that salmon, which is so easy to prepare. It's

1409
01:12:22,173 --> 01:12:24,253
Speaker 27: a sip of that wine while you're preparing the salmon

1410
01:12:24,293 --> 01:12:26,533
Speaker 27: and just alongside when you're eating it.

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01:12:26,773 --> 01:12:30,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds so good. You know what I am.

1412
01:12:30,293 --> 01:12:32,093
Speaker 4: I'm not a massive drink or anything, but I'll tell

1413
01:12:32,093 --> 01:12:34,773
Speaker 4: you what. I've transitioned to that stage of life where

1414
01:12:34,813 --> 01:12:38,333
Speaker 4: Chardonay is my pet, which is a good It's a

1415
01:12:38,333 --> 01:12:40,213
Speaker 4: great stage of life. It's a great stage of life.

1416
01:12:40,213 --> 01:12:42,853
Speaker 4: But you know, I've moved on from the from the

1417
01:12:42,893 --> 01:12:46,573
Speaker 4: sweeter options of my youth. And yes, that that pegas

1418
01:12:46,613 --> 01:12:49,093
Speaker 4: of space sounds superb. So thank you very much, Cameron.

1419
01:12:49,773 --> 01:12:51,933
Speaker 4: That once again is a Piggas of space Chardonnay from

1420
01:12:51,973 --> 01:12:54,733
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. We have the details on the news

1421
01:12:54,733 --> 01:12:57,893
Speaker 4: talks he'd be website. Rude Climb past our Man in

1422
01:12:57,933 --> 01:12:59,733
Speaker 4: the Garden is with us in a couple of minutes.

1423
01:12:59,813 --> 01:13:00,053
Speaker 2: Right now.

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01:13:00,093 --> 01:13:00,653
Speaker 4: It's ten to.

1425
01:13:00,573 --> 01:13:06,133
Speaker 1: Eleven gardening with Still shaft free autumn upgrades on Still's

1426
01:13:06,133 --> 01:13:06,813
Speaker 1: best sellers.

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01:13:07,653 --> 01:13:09,693
Speaker 4: Rou Climb passes in the garden for us this morning,

1428
01:13:09,733 --> 01:13:10,613
Speaker 4: Good morning, sir.

1429
01:13:11,533 --> 01:13:13,653
Speaker 8: Good morning, And I was in the garden and then

1430
01:13:13,693 --> 01:13:16,293
Speaker 8: I'm not now I'm inside anyway, I am in the

1431
01:13:16,333 --> 01:13:20,173
Speaker 8: garden because my grandson Edaway is looking after my miss

1432
01:13:20,213 --> 01:13:24,413
Speaker 8: Nets were catching birds at the mountain. Oh yeah, that's

1433
01:13:24,453 --> 01:13:25,893
Speaker 8: a lovely story.

1434
01:13:25,973 --> 01:13:30,493
Speaker 4: Oh that's good. Yeah, presumably that's yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

1435
01:13:31,173 --> 01:13:34,213
Speaker 4: You know, my wife had a very dramatic scene the

1436
01:13:34,213 --> 01:13:36,293
Speaker 4: other day. She had to she was in a shop

1437
01:13:36,413 --> 01:13:38,973
Speaker 4: and there was a kingfisher that got stuck in the shop,

1438
01:13:39,933 --> 01:13:42,693
Speaker 4: and yeah, I know, crazy, and then she ended up,

1439
01:13:42,773 --> 01:13:48,133
Speaker 4: what are they? And then and then she so they

1440
01:13:48,213 --> 01:13:50,373
Speaker 4: no one knew what to do, and then someone it

1441
01:13:50,413 --> 01:13:52,533
Speaker 4: was in the corner, and someone threw a towel over it,

1442
01:13:53,173 --> 01:13:58,413
Speaker 4: and she marves sort of fancies herself in emergency situations,

1443
01:13:58,653 --> 01:14:00,933
Speaker 4: and so she rushed over, rushed over. No one knew

1444
01:14:00,933 --> 01:14:02,173
Speaker 4: what to do. Whilce the towel was on it, she

1445
01:14:02,213 --> 01:14:04,453
Speaker 4: picked it up, scooped it up and took it outside

1446
01:14:04,533 --> 01:14:06,133
Speaker 4: and the and the towel and then released it. But

1447
01:14:06,173 --> 01:14:08,253
Speaker 4: she's said it was the most like she said, it

1448
01:14:08,333 --> 01:14:12,013
Speaker 4: was the softest ever felt. Yes, you said, it was amazing,

1449
01:14:12,253 --> 01:14:16,333
Speaker 4: just like touching its you know, touching its coat. So anyway,

1450
01:14:16,773 --> 01:14:19,773
Speaker 4: so good, Yeah, it was all good. Flew away even

1451
01:14:20,053 --> 01:14:23,293
Speaker 4: lived happily ever after. Me and Mather had a story

1452
01:14:23,293 --> 01:14:25,693
Speaker 4: to dine out on for about three days, you know,

1453
01:14:25,813 --> 01:14:29,693
Speaker 4: Hollo heroes, wee apes. Anyway, this morning, you've got tips

1454
01:14:29,733 --> 01:14:34,333
Speaker 4: on using tomato seeds to grow. Because most of us,

1455
01:14:34,573 --> 01:14:36,453
Speaker 4: I'm a bit lazy with my tomatoes. I just get

1456
01:14:36,453 --> 01:14:38,093
Speaker 4: a little you know, I go to the go to

1457
01:14:38,173 --> 01:14:40,093
Speaker 4: the plant shop and just get a couple of different varietals.

1458
01:14:40,093 --> 01:14:41,613
Speaker 4: But this could be an option for next summer.

1459
01:14:42,893 --> 01:14:45,093
Speaker 8: It is, but it's also a way of actually getting

1460
01:14:45,093 --> 01:14:48,013
Speaker 8: your own stuff going from your own collections. Yeah, you like,

1461
01:14:48,773 --> 01:14:50,893
Speaker 8: because and now it's a good time to do that

1462
01:14:50,893 --> 01:14:53,493
Speaker 8: because the tomatos are still ripening, I suppose, but it

1463
01:14:53,533 --> 01:14:56,093
Speaker 8: won't be long before it gets too too cold and

1464
01:14:56,133 --> 01:14:58,693
Speaker 8: all that sort of stuff. And I thought i'd write

1465
01:14:58,733 --> 01:15:01,213
Speaker 8: a little bit about that. And the first thing is,

1466
01:15:01,293 --> 01:15:03,493
Speaker 8: you know, if you've got a tomato growing that's an

1467
01:15:03,653 --> 01:15:07,973
Speaker 8: F one hybrid, then be where that you can't have

1468
01:15:08,053 --> 01:15:12,613
Speaker 8: that you cannot if you like, use those seeds because

1469
01:15:12,613 --> 01:15:15,093
Speaker 8: what you're going to get is completely different from what

1470
01:15:15,213 --> 01:15:18,693
Speaker 8: you had. F one is one of those little first

1471
01:15:18,853 --> 01:15:23,253
Speaker 8: filial generation as they call it in that work. These

1472
01:15:23,293 --> 01:15:25,933
Speaker 8: things will come back basically to their old parents, and

1473
01:15:25,973 --> 01:15:30,653
Speaker 8: sometimes even a different species. It's extraordinary. But if you've

1474
01:15:30,653 --> 01:15:36,533
Speaker 8: got air loom varieties, the so called open pollinated varieties,

1475
01:15:36,973 --> 01:15:41,013
Speaker 8: they will come true to type when you use the seeds.

1476
01:15:41,373 --> 01:15:44,893
Speaker 8: Things like I've used tigarella all my life back grim Thessalonica.

1477
01:15:45,213 --> 01:15:48,693
Speaker 8: But now Neil Robertson from Piano gave me this wonderful

1478
01:15:48,733 --> 01:15:52,893
Speaker 8: thing and he said you'd love it. It's called Gardener's Delight,

1479
01:15:53,453 --> 01:15:58,013
Speaker 8: and it is larger than a normal tomato, you know,

1480
01:15:58,093 --> 01:16:00,813
Speaker 8: one of those little tomatoes if you like. And it

1481
01:16:00,973 --> 01:16:04,573
Speaker 8: is sweet, and it is absolutely juicy and beautiful. So

1482
01:16:05,653 --> 01:16:06,693
Speaker 8: on behalf of Neil.

1483
01:16:06,733 --> 01:16:07,093
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1484
01:16:07,213 --> 01:16:09,813
Speaker 8: I've actually got those things, and I've written exactly in

1485
01:16:09,853 --> 01:16:12,293
Speaker 8: the system that will be online how to do that.

1486
01:16:13,453 --> 01:16:18,213
Speaker 8: You basically get the fully ripe tomatoes, scrape, scrape off

1487
01:16:18,493 --> 01:16:21,613
Speaker 8: the you cut them in half, scrape off the seeds

1488
01:16:22,093 --> 01:16:24,413
Speaker 8: and put them on, if you like, under in a car,

1489
01:16:24,573 --> 01:16:28,853
Speaker 8: under underwater, so most of the sticky stuff goes out.

1490
01:16:29,253 --> 01:16:29,453
Speaker 5: You know.

1491
01:16:29,533 --> 01:16:33,013
Speaker 8: You do that a few times if you like, And

1492
01:16:33,333 --> 01:16:35,133
Speaker 8: once you've done that a few times, you'll find that

1493
01:16:35,133 --> 01:16:37,493
Speaker 8: the seeds are not so sticky anymore. You put them

1494
01:16:37,493 --> 01:16:41,333
Speaker 8: in some kitchen paper if you like, and you dry

1495
01:16:41,373 --> 01:16:44,213
Speaker 8: them very gently, not in the sun.

1496
01:16:44,773 --> 01:16:46,933
Speaker 4: Oh okay, not in the sun.

1497
01:16:47,013 --> 01:16:49,333
Speaker 8: Not too hot, not in the sun, but nice and dry.

1498
01:16:49,453 --> 01:16:49,893
Speaker 5: That's it.

1499
01:16:50,133 --> 01:16:52,813
Speaker 8: And two days later, basically they will have desiccated. They

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Speaker 8: will be totally dry then. And what I do then

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Speaker 8: is I separate them and put them in little envelopes

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Speaker 8: paper envelopes, and then I send them around to people

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Speaker 8: that might like them. So you should have yours in

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Speaker 8: the letter by now. Yeah, And and Levy asked for

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Speaker 8: some as well, So it's gonna happen there, very good.

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Speaker 4: I have to chig. So just that, really, why didn't

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Speaker 4: you put them in the sun? So you want them

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Speaker 4: to dry, but you don't want them to dry too quickly.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 8: It goes really slowly because normally those you know, the

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Speaker 8: way these things basically fall off a plant is that

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Speaker 8: they split open and they are basically in the shade

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Speaker 8: under a plant, and that's how they go on for

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Speaker 8: next year. But in this case, you're going to sort

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Speaker 8: it out yourself. Not in the sun. Please leave them

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Speaker 8: nice and warm and dry and you'll be fine. And

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Speaker 8: so have a little tip you can do if you,

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Speaker 8: for instance, in an area with a lot of relative humidity.

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Speaker 8: You can use some silica gel in the envelope to

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01:17:53,973 --> 01:17:57,093
Speaker 8: absorb moisture and to keep those things dry, and they'll

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Speaker 8: be actually, by the way, they'll be good for the

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Speaker 8: next two three four years.

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Speaker 3: Saying okay, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Oh, no, pre sure, and you would love them. I would.

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Speaker 4: You're right, Thank you so much for route climb passing

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Speaker 4: in the garden for us. We'll make sure those tips

1527
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Speaker 1: He'd be Saturday mornings with Jack tam keeping the conversation

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Speaker 3: B good morning.

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Speaker 4: If you're just turning on the radio this morning. Jactane

1537
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Speaker 4: with you through to twelve o'clock is put every Saturday

1538
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Speaker 4: morning on news Talks. He'd be before the day telling

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Speaker 4: me about Hallan Kober new book. And he churns them out, Ah,

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Speaker 4: absolutely churns them out. In one of these amazing authors,

1541
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Speaker 4: like incredibly successful authors who still somehow has the capacity

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Speaker 4: to turn out a new book every year. So I'm

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Speaker 4: going to tell you about Nobody's Full which is his

1544
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Speaker 4: latest read before midday, as well as that we've got

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Speaker 4: brand new music from Mumford and Sons. I love Mumford

1546
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Speaker 4: and Sons, and I always think of them as being

1547
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Speaker 4: like the banjo band, like the kind of pinnacle of

1548
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Speaker 4: banjo rock musicians. But the thing is that they don't

1549
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Speaker 4: have a banjo player anymore. They had a bit of

1550
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Speaker 4: a tiff with their banjo player, so they've just released

1551
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Speaker 4: their brand new album, which is their first in seventh

1552
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Speaker 4: years and is their first without their banjo player. So

1553
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Speaker 4: we're going to make sure we have a little bit

1554
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Speaker 4: of time to listen to Mumford and Sons sans banjo

1555
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Speaker 4: before midday. Right now, it is eight minutes past eleven.

1556
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Speaker 5: Jack Team and co.

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Speaker 4: Of course, psychologist Google Sutherland is all with us this morning. Calder, Google,

1558
01:20:00,373 --> 01:20:03,013
Speaker 4: George jet I happy with you again. We started the

1559
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Speaker 4: show this morning by talking about the program Adolescence, which

1560
01:20:05,813 --> 01:20:09,413
Speaker 4: has yes, it didn't just rely on my Rave review

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Speaker 4: has had gazillions of Rave reviews and tens of millions

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Speaker 4: of views since it went live on Netflix a couple

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01:20:15,933 --> 01:20:16,453
Speaker 4: of weeks ago.

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Speaker 14: You've seen it, yes, absolutely, Binge watched it in tonight.

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Speaker 4: Ah, how good. Okay, So as a clinical psychologist, without

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01:20:26,013 --> 01:20:28,373
Speaker 4: giving two much of the plot away, how did that

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01:20:28,573 --> 01:20:30,093
Speaker 4: impact the way that you watched the show?

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Speaker 14: Do you know what? It hit me more a little

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01:20:34,853 --> 01:20:36,813
Speaker 14: bit Like you were talking about at the start of

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01:20:36,893 --> 01:20:39,973
Speaker 14: the show, that actually hit me more on a personal level,

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Speaker 14: particularly that final episode, thinking about my role as a

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Speaker 14: dad and as a father and what I have you know,

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Speaker 14: and how I've parented my son. Yeah, and I've just

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01:20:52,893 --> 01:20:55,493
Speaker 14: found it really I think there was particularly I found

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01:20:55,533 --> 01:20:58,213
Speaker 14: that last episode, I guess from a psychological perspective too,

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01:20:58,653 --> 01:21:03,333
Speaker 14: really fascinating. All the little subtle things that the father

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01:21:03,533 --> 01:21:06,173
Speaker 14: does and says in the way he acts that just

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01:21:06,413 --> 01:21:09,693
Speaker 14: you can just see how that's just sown some seeds

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Speaker 14: in his son, and not deliberately, not in a but

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Speaker 14: but just some of the ways that he interacts and

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Speaker 14: how what he's modeled for his son, and about how

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01:21:19,213 --> 01:21:21,653
Speaker 14: he struggled to he you know, talked about it. I

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01:21:21,813 --> 01:21:24,333
Speaker 14: just tried to be better than my dad. Yeah, And

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Speaker 14: so it was I was really affected by it the

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Speaker 14: whole next day, and I just it's amazing on so

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Speaker 14: many levels, as you know, as you've talked about with

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01:21:35,213 --> 01:21:37,613
Speaker 14: the one track shot and and but just on a

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01:21:38,053 --> 01:21:40,933
Speaker 14: psychological and what it says about how to be a guy,

1589
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Speaker 14: and how to raise kids and how to raise sons.

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Speaker 14: It's just amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, did you did you know the episode two when

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01:21:46,853 --> 01:21:50,013
Speaker 4: they have the or it's a three rather when it's

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Speaker 4: just the child clinical psychologist and and and the main

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Speaker 4: and the boy in a room. I mean, like, I'm

1595
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Speaker 4: not expecting you've been in those situations, but was that accurate?

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Speaker 4: Do you think was that kind of.

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Speaker 14: A I've been, and I haven't been. I haven't done

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Speaker 14: a court report, but I've certainly been. I've certainly met

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Speaker 14: with young people who are in that sort of environment,

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Speaker 14: and yeah, look, there were aspects of it that are true.

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Speaker 14: But also I think, you know, my experience with young

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Speaker 14: people is often that they are quite really able to

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Speaker 14: talk and reflect and you know, but I think there

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Speaker 14: was something just you know, there was just glimmers of

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Speaker 14: something in that young thirteen year old that were slightly

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Speaker 14: disturbing and slightly worrying. But I think it's a relatively

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Speaker 14: realistic portrayal of yeah goes on. It's certainly much more

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Speaker 14: realistic than somebody lying on a couch and talking about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah exactly. Yeah yeah. Anyway, well I'm glad,

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you found it affecting as well. I've been

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Speaker 4: ranting on around about it this morning, which is what

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Speaker 4: good art does. You know, it's you know, it is

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Speaker 4: what it is. Anyway, we're talking about presenteeism this morning. Now,

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Speaker 4: people will be familiar with absentism in terms absenteeism is

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Speaker 4: a problem. Is presenteism an issue as well?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: Well, look this is on the back of We're just Umbrella.

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Speaker 14: We've just released some research and we we've talked to

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Speaker 14: over eight and a half thousand people. Present teaism is

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Speaker 14: that is, when you turn up for work, so you're

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Speaker 14: physically present, but you're carrying with you some sort of

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Speaker 14: mental health or physical health condition that leads you to

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Speaker 14: work at less than your normal one hundred percent productivity.

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Speaker 14: So it's it's, it's and it's it's a hidden cost.

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Speaker 14: We actually we estimated, and this is a broad estimate,

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Speaker 14: we estimated it's costing over forty billion dollars per year

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Speaker 14: in lost productivity because it's hidden, you know, because somebody

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Speaker 14: can be sitting at their deskcore in their workplace where

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Speaker 14: into that wherever that is, and they're physically there, so

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Speaker 14: it appears that so it can get overlooked, but actually

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Speaker 14: they're not really producing at their full capacity. So it's

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Speaker 14: it's a it's a hidden cost, and lots of people

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Speaker 14: aren't really aware of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so twenty five percent of eight and a

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Speaker 4: half thousand people surveyed, so they had kind of experienced it.

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Speaker 4: So talk to us about the impact on a workplace, like,

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Speaker 4: in what ways does someone experiencing presentees talk us through

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Speaker 4: the different ways it affects a business.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, look, and I think we can all relate to

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01:24:28,133 --> 01:24:30,533
Speaker 14: it as on some level, we've all had a day

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01:24:30,613 --> 01:24:34,253
Speaker 14: when you're just just not quite firing on all cylinders right,

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01:24:34,333 --> 01:24:39,413
Speaker 14: and you get those things like low energy, you're distracted,

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01:24:39,693 --> 01:24:43,293
Speaker 14: it's harder to focus, you might find it more difficult

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01:24:43,333 --> 01:24:47,413
Speaker 14: to finish things or to make quick decisions. And for

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01:24:47,493 --> 01:24:49,613
Speaker 14: most of us, you know that that might be present

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01:24:50,493 --> 01:24:53,053
Speaker 14: on the odd day. But yeah, we had twenty five

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01:24:53,133 --> 01:24:56,693
Speaker 14: percent of the people we surveyed said that they regularly

1648
01:24:58,133 --> 01:25:01,453
Speaker 14: experienced this up to about the time equivalent is about

1649
01:25:01,533 --> 01:25:04,213
Speaker 14: six days per month, So imagine you know, that's six

1650
01:25:04,333 --> 01:25:07,133
Speaker 14: days per month where you are not real really there.

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01:25:08,013 --> 01:25:11,333
Speaker 14: And I think too, there's a potential, particularly if you're

1652
01:25:11,333 --> 01:25:14,653
Speaker 14: working with machinery heavy machinery or transport, that you can

1653
01:25:15,053 --> 01:25:18,013
Speaker 14: make lapses in judgment or make small mistakes that could

1654
01:25:18,093 --> 01:25:20,693
Speaker 14: have quite a major cost or major you know, major

1655
01:25:20,733 --> 01:25:23,813
Speaker 14: effect on your health for other people's heels. So it's

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01:25:23,853 --> 01:25:26,293
Speaker 14: not like people are deliberately doing this, but they're just

1657
01:25:26,373 --> 01:25:29,293
Speaker 14: their mind is on something else there, They're they're worried

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01:25:29,293 --> 01:25:31,573
Speaker 14: about something that that there, you know, there's been an

1659
01:25:31,693 --> 01:25:34,133
Speaker 14: argument at home, and their minds on that instead, or

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01:25:34,173 --> 01:25:36,653
Speaker 14: they're they're you know, they're their mood is low and

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01:25:36,773 --> 01:25:40,533
Speaker 14: they can't really bring themselves to fully to work as

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01:25:40,573 --> 01:25:41,253
Speaker 14: they usually would.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, okay, And I mean the cost can be significant.

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Speaker 4: So two thousand dollars a month per employee, which is

1665
01:25:47,173 --> 01:25:50,173
Speaker 4: if you if you're extrapolated out across the whole of

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01:25:50,213 --> 01:25:53,533
Speaker 4: New Zealand, that's like billions and billions of dollars, like

1667
01:25:53,693 --> 01:25:57,173
Speaker 4: teens of billions of dollars. So what can we kind

1668
01:25:57,213 --> 01:25:57,773
Speaker 4: of do about it?

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Speaker 14: Look, I think I think to be honest, we're just

1670
01:26:01,253 --> 01:26:04,813
Speaker 14: this is an emerging area for many organizations. There's lots

1671
01:26:04,853 --> 01:26:09,013
Speaker 14: of international research that that has established us as a

1672
01:26:09,053 --> 01:26:11,973
Speaker 14: presence in the workplace, but for New Zealand it's still

1673
01:26:12,133 --> 01:26:15,493
Speaker 14: sort of we're just starting the conversation. And I'd say

1674
01:26:15,573 --> 01:26:18,253
Speaker 14: to workplaces, look, it's really important that you actually get

1675
01:26:18,253 --> 01:26:21,213
Speaker 14: an accurate assessment of how you're going in this area,

1676
01:26:21,293 --> 01:26:23,533
Speaker 14: because you know, as you've said that, we've made an

1677
01:26:23,693 --> 01:26:26,773
Speaker 14: estimate and extrapolated that out across the population, but that

1678
01:26:26,813 --> 01:26:30,533
Speaker 14: will vary across different workplaces and work sites. So I'd

1679
01:26:30,533 --> 01:26:32,613
Speaker 14: say to organizations, get a handle on it. You know

1680
01:26:33,573 --> 01:26:35,333
Speaker 14: how much of an issue is it at your place,

1681
01:26:35,813 --> 01:26:38,893
Speaker 14: and then look at the way that your workplace is.

1682
01:26:39,013 --> 01:26:43,173
Speaker 14: How are people comfortable coming to work and saying, hey, look,

1683
01:26:43,213 --> 01:26:47,453
Speaker 14: I'm not fully I'm not fully here today, I'm I'm

1684
01:26:47,493 --> 01:26:50,253
Speaker 14: not at one hundred and either be encouraged to take

1685
01:26:50,333 --> 01:26:54,173
Speaker 14: a day off of sick leave if that's possible, or

1686
01:26:54,733 --> 01:26:57,293
Speaker 14: to be able to have some sort of flexibility in

1687
01:26:57,373 --> 01:27:00,453
Speaker 14: their work where their manager or colleagues or co workers

1688
01:27:00,493 --> 01:27:03,373
Speaker 14: can say, hey, look we'll take that extra bit off

1689
01:27:03,453 --> 01:27:06,933
Speaker 14: you today, you know, and recognize that it could be

1690
01:27:07,013 --> 01:27:10,253
Speaker 14: us tomorrow that needs that kind of support. So it's

1691
01:27:10,293 --> 01:27:12,373
Speaker 14: how can we flexibly deal with us and not just

1692
01:27:12,453 --> 01:27:13,653
Speaker 14: pretend it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, no, that makes a lot of sense. Hey,

1694
01:27:15,773 --> 01:27:18,373
Speaker 4: thank you, Dougal. I really appreciate that. All Southern from

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01:27:18,573 --> 01:27:21,093
Speaker 4: Umbrella welbing there with us this morning. Right now it

1696
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Speaker 4: is quarter past eleven on News Talks. Edb our travel

1697
01:27:24,213 --> 01:27:27,053
Speaker 4: correspondent is taking us all through Europe next.

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Speaker 5: Travel with Windy wutours Where the World is yours book now.

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Speaker 4: Mike Hardley is our travel correspondent. He's here with us

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01:27:35,613 --> 01:27:38,333
Speaker 4: this morning. Keldo, Good morning from Europe.

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Speaker 26: Jack, I hit us up. Been watching the coverage of

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01:27:41,093 --> 01:27:44,053
Speaker 26: this Me and My earthquake. I was actually in man

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01:27:44,173 --> 01:27:49,173
Speaker 26: Delay ten years ago, virtually to the day, and gee,

1704
01:27:49,253 --> 01:27:52,733
Speaker 26: given how flimsy their construction standards are, I just hate

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01:27:52,773 --> 01:27:54,213
Speaker 26: to think how big this death toll.

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Speaker 6: Is going to be.

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01:27:55,053 --> 01:27:57,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hideous, isn't it. Some of the images that

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01:27:57,773 --> 01:28:00,533
Speaker 4: have come out of there this morning are just lawful.

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Speaker 4: And of course, given the political situation and that part

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01:28:03,733 --> 01:28:05,213
Speaker 4: of the world at the moment, I can't imagine the

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01:28:05,293 --> 01:28:07,373
Speaker 4: response is going to be. You know, it's going to

1712
01:28:07,413 --> 01:28:10,893
Speaker 4: be any easier that it might have been. That that

1713
01:28:11,293 --> 01:28:14,053
Speaker 4: must be awful seeing that so ten years ago. Gosh,

1714
01:28:14,173 --> 01:28:16,053
Speaker 4: things have changed a lot in that part of the world,

1715
01:28:16,093 --> 01:28:18,013
Speaker 4: and not not just as a result of this earthquake.

1716
01:28:18,373 --> 01:28:22,733
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well, look, we all hope obviously that that

1717
01:28:23,973 --> 01:28:26,693
Speaker 4: you know, it's not as bad as has seemed, you know,

1718
01:28:26,853 --> 01:28:28,733
Speaker 4: at first glance. But it's one of those things, isn't it.

1719
01:28:28,933 --> 01:28:30,493
Speaker 4: In the first few hours they are always trying to

1720
01:28:30,573 --> 01:28:33,013
Speaker 4: work out, you know, try and get you know, try

1721
01:28:33,013 --> 01:28:35,613
Speaker 4: and get a good sense of just how bad it is.

1722
01:28:35,693 --> 01:28:37,893
Speaker 4: But certainly from what we've seen so found and all

1723
01:28:37,933 --> 01:28:39,773
Speaker 4: the stuff coming into the newsroom at the moment, it

1724
01:28:39,813 --> 01:28:44,733
Speaker 4: looks looks pretty tough. So yeahah, yeah, heyah. Anyway, we

1725
01:28:45,013 --> 01:28:48,213
Speaker 4: are focusing this morning on things where well, you know,

1726
01:28:48,253 --> 01:28:49,973
Speaker 4: a slightly more stable part of the world, and every

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01:28:50,053 --> 01:28:53,853
Speaker 4: sense I suppose you are traveling through Europe at the

1728
01:28:53,893 --> 01:28:58,293
Speaker 4: moment and enjoying some of Europe's great railway station restaurants

1729
01:28:58,333 --> 01:29:01,973
Speaker 4: and traveling by train is the way to go in Europe? Right?

1730
01:29:02,253 --> 01:29:04,373
Speaker 4: Are the railway stations busy at this time of year.

1731
01:29:05,613 --> 01:29:09,213
Speaker 26: It's interesting. I'm no fan of the summer crush in

1732
01:29:09,333 --> 01:29:12,773
Speaker 26: the big European destination, so I deliberately decided to get

1733
01:29:12,813 --> 01:29:15,773
Speaker 26: a jump on that. And first of all, on the

1734
01:29:15,853 --> 01:29:19,813
Speaker 26: weather front, it's obviously cooler than summer, but a lot

1735
01:29:19,973 --> 01:29:23,053
Speaker 26: calmer on the streets. Not so many bonds to have

1736
01:29:23,213 --> 01:29:27,453
Speaker 26: to wrestle with the trains and the railway stations, yep,

1737
01:29:27,733 --> 01:29:31,453
Speaker 26: the perky, plenty of people about but not heaving, and

1738
01:29:32,253 --> 01:29:35,893
Speaker 26: you certainly won't have any trouble scoring seat reservations on

1739
01:29:35,973 --> 01:29:38,253
Speaker 26: the most popular routes at this time of year. So

1740
01:29:39,053 --> 01:29:43,253
Speaker 26: I am absolutely a huge fan of exploring Europe in

1741
01:29:43,413 --> 01:29:49,453
Speaker 26: those shoulder season periods, whether it be March, April, October, November. Yeah,

1742
01:29:49,613 --> 01:29:50,573
Speaker 26: definitely the way to go.

1743
01:29:50,813 --> 01:29:52,973
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I totally agree, totally agree with that. So

1744
01:29:53,053 --> 01:29:55,253
Speaker 4: let's talk about some of the track side restaurants then.

1745
01:29:55,333 --> 01:29:57,573
Speaker 4: Do they sort of tend to be, you know, like

1746
01:29:57,693 --> 01:29:58,533
Speaker 4: hidden treasures?

1747
01:29:59,773 --> 01:30:04,933
Speaker 26: Yeah, totally. And many of Europe's grand and venerable railway

1748
01:30:05,013 --> 01:30:10,573
Speaker 26: stations house some quite remarkable restaurant experiences. And I was

1749
01:30:10,613 --> 01:30:13,333
Speaker 26: thinking to myself yesterday, why would you want to settle

1750
01:30:13,373 --> 01:30:15,733
Speaker 26: for an underwhelming grab and ghost sandwich to take on

1751
01:30:15,853 --> 01:30:20,133
Speaker 26: the train when you've got these brilliant track side brassris

1752
01:30:20,173 --> 01:30:23,333
Speaker 26: and best rows at your disposal. And the thing about them, Jack,

1753
01:30:23,493 --> 01:30:26,773
Speaker 26: is a lot of them embody the romance of rail travel.

1754
01:30:27,293 --> 01:30:30,933
Speaker 26: Others the more like little quirky add ons to your journey.

1755
01:30:31,053 --> 01:30:34,053
Speaker 26: But there are some real jewels to uncover.

1756
01:30:34,253 --> 01:30:36,733
Speaker 4: Okay, let's start in London, then where's good.

1757
01:30:38,293 --> 01:30:41,373
Speaker 26: Well, many Kiwis will be familiar with Sintancras station, which

1758
01:30:41,453 --> 01:30:45,053
Speaker 26: is the London hub for Eurostar trains. Curiously, the guy

1759
01:30:45,133 --> 01:30:49,453
Speaker 26: that designed Satankras, George Gilbert Scott, was the original designer

1760
01:30:49,893 --> 01:30:54,693
Speaker 26: for christ Church Cathedral. Quirki We connection there, but anyway,

1761
01:30:54,773 --> 01:30:59,253
Speaker 26: at tin Tankras Booking Office eighteen sixty nine is where

1762
01:30:59,293 --> 01:31:02,653
Speaker 26: to go. And as the name suggests, it was originally

1763
01:31:02,773 --> 01:31:06,293
Speaker 26: the vast ticket office of the station. Four years ago

1764
01:31:06,493 --> 01:31:10,413
Speaker 26: the space was redesigned as a Victorian style winter garden,

1765
01:31:10,813 --> 01:31:15,973
Speaker 26: so it's got these soaring palm trees, plant themed chandeliers.

1766
01:31:16,493 --> 01:31:21,173
Speaker 26: It's all very whimsical, escapist and exotic and as you'd expect.

1767
01:31:21,213 --> 01:31:24,053
Speaker 26: On the menu, lots of British classics, but also nods

1768
01:31:24,133 --> 01:31:28,133
Speaker 26: to all sorts of far flung destinations. But I reckon

1769
01:31:28,213 --> 01:31:32,013
Speaker 26: the Scottish charcuterie board is the perfect choice.

1770
01:31:32,093 --> 01:31:35,533
Speaker 4: Below what about Paris, Paris mistakes and beating.

1771
01:31:36,813 --> 01:31:41,093
Speaker 26: Yeah, best of the best La Trandleur restaurant at Garde Leon.

1772
01:31:41,853 --> 01:31:45,773
Speaker 26: This is like an explosion of belly pop grandeur with

1773
01:31:46,013 --> 01:31:50,373
Speaker 26: decor inspired by the Mediterranean coasts glamour spots. So I

1774
01:31:50,533 --> 01:31:56,733
Speaker 26: think guilt, watercolor paintings, chandeliers, leather banquettes. The top cellar bea.

1775
01:31:56,813 --> 01:31:58,853
Speaker 26: By the way, Jack is a leg of lamb hand

1776
01:31:59,053 --> 01:32:03,053
Speaker 26: carved at your table. If you want to mimic mister Bean,

1777
01:32:03,533 --> 01:32:06,653
Speaker 26: think of the Bean movie. This is where he had

1778
01:32:06,933 --> 01:32:10,133
Speaker 26: quite a bit of trouble trying to swallow those king prawns.

1779
01:32:10,253 --> 01:32:11,573
Speaker 5: Ah right.

1780
01:32:12,093 --> 01:32:14,413
Speaker 4: So, like you say, though, that kind of old school

1781
01:32:14,693 --> 01:32:17,933
Speaker 4: glamor ray. So where else would you recommend for the

1782
01:32:18,053 --> 01:32:19,453
Speaker 4: kind of old school dining vibes.

1783
01:32:20,493 --> 01:32:24,293
Speaker 26: Yeah, well, if you find yourself at Brussels medi the

1784
01:32:24,373 --> 01:32:27,413
Speaker 26: main station in Brussels, the Brasserie is a cracker. It's

1785
01:32:28,053 --> 01:32:32,213
Speaker 26: actually a Michelin Stud restaurant, once again transporting you back

1786
01:32:32,253 --> 01:32:36,053
Speaker 26: to rails golden age, with antique train lngins in the restaurant,

1787
01:32:36,213 --> 01:32:41,013
Speaker 26: Victorian timetables and even railway workers' hats adorning the wars.

1788
01:32:41,133 --> 01:32:45,933
Speaker 26: But given it to Michelin Stud joint obviously you may

1789
01:32:46,013 --> 01:32:50,813
Speaker 26: be mindful of cost. I would go for something relatively

1790
01:32:51,453 --> 01:32:55,573
Speaker 26: when extensive. The shrimp croquets are really good. And if

1791
01:32:55,613 --> 01:33:00,533
Speaker 26: you're in Amsterdam, the Grand Cafe restaurant at Central Station,

1792
01:33:00,973 --> 01:33:05,293
Speaker 26: very similar nineteenth century, was a first class waiting hall.

1793
01:33:05,733 --> 01:33:08,493
Speaker 26: The original locke has been preserved, but the funny thing

1794
01:33:08,573 --> 01:33:11,253
Speaker 26: Jack is true to the weird Dutch sense of humor.

1795
01:33:11,813 --> 01:33:14,573
Speaker 26: Also in the Grand Cafe restaurant is a rather talkative

1796
01:33:14,653 --> 01:33:18,493
Speaker 26: cockertoo called Elvis, who has perched permanently at.

1797
01:33:18,413 --> 01:33:19,813
Speaker 5: The bar ah.

1798
01:33:20,733 --> 01:33:25,373
Speaker 4: How talkative because you know, like congatoos are not known

1799
01:33:25,533 --> 01:33:26,773
Speaker 4: for being quiet.

1800
01:33:28,053 --> 01:33:30,453
Speaker 26: That's yeah, he's he's on rotate.

1801
01:33:30,653 --> 01:33:34,413
Speaker 4: If he's talkative, then that's fine. If he's going, I

1802
01:33:34,533 --> 01:33:36,213
Speaker 4: think I'd tire of that pretty quickly.

1803
01:33:36,373 --> 01:33:36,573
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1804
01:33:37,533 --> 01:33:40,373
Speaker 4: What about what about like, you know, the railway restaurants

1805
01:33:40,413 --> 01:33:42,253
Speaker 4: that are kind of star performers on social media?

1806
01:33:43,693 --> 01:33:48,613
Speaker 26: Yes, Ed Milan Central Station, the owner of Antico Venio

1807
01:33:49,293 --> 01:33:51,933
Speaker 26: has become a bit of a TikTok hero, so he

1808
01:33:52,413 --> 01:33:56,173
Speaker 26: rolls out these videos of him constructing his double decker

1809
01:33:56,293 --> 01:33:59,413
Speaker 26: Italian subs. I've actually had one of the sandwiches that's

1810
01:33:59,453 --> 01:34:04,573
Speaker 26: called Father Losa, and it's this enormous construction stacked with

1811
01:34:04,733 --> 01:34:10,213
Speaker 26: salami and pecorino cheese and artichokes spread and spicy eggplants.

1812
01:34:10,213 --> 01:34:14,613
Speaker 26: They're just ridiculously sized, so that's definitely worth to stop.

1813
01:34:14,973 --> 01:34:18,093
Speaker 26: And in Athan's Jack, I love this, there's this Greek

1814
01:34:18,133 --> 01:34:21,613
Speaker 26: actress who has made it her life's work to fully

1815
01:34:21,733 --> 01:34:25,733
Speaker 26: restore vintage carriages. So she set them all up at

1816
01:34:26,013 --> 01:34:30,213
Speaker 26: Ethan's Roof railway station and she's called it the Wagon Restaurant.

1817
01:34:30,293 --> 01:34:33,533
Speaker 26: And this is buzzing with the instacrawt because one of

1818
01:34:33,653 --> 01:34:39,653
Speaker 26: the carriages there is actually the original dining car from

1819
01:34:39,773 --> 01:34:43,293
Speaker 26: the Orient Express. You can actually lunt within that car,

1820
01:34:43,453 --> 01:34:44,053
Speaker 26: isn't that Cole?

1821
01:34:44,213 --> 01:34:47,413
Speaker 4: Oh that's amazing. Yeah, that is incredible And Mike you reckon,

1822
01:34:47,493 --> 01:34:51,533
Speaker 4: you have experienced the most beautiful McDonald's in the world.

1823
01:34:53,093 --> 01:34:56,613
Speaker 26: I have this week, Jack, I'm here to cover all

1824
01:34:56,773 --> 01:35:01,493
Speaker 26: classes of cuisine. So for for a five star Golden

1825
01:35:01,613 --> 01:35:07,373
Speaker 26: Arts experience. Macas has just reopened at Budapest New Ghati station.

1826
01:35:08,013 --> 01:35:12,013
Speaker 26: So it's in this little building adjoining the station, one

1827
01:35:12,133 --> 01:35:14,653
Speaker 26: hundred and fifty year old building. It's been given a

1828
01:35:14,813 --> 01:35:18,733
Speaker 26: tip to toe restoration. It's like this neo classical jewel

1829
01:35:18,813 --> 01:35:23,453
Speaker 26: box with antique lambs and painted stucco ceilings, all fresh.

1830
01:35:24,133 --> 01:35:28,893
Speaker 26: The only thing is those touch screen ordering kiosks look

1831
01:35:28,933 --> 01:35:32,773
Speaker 26: a bit out of place. It's all the grandeur, but

1832
01:35:32,933 --> 01:35:33,533
Speaker 26: I'm loving it.

1833
01:35:33,853 --> 01:35:36,573
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I reckon. We could do a whole segment

1834
01:35:36,693 --> 01:35:39,653
Speaker 4: on quirky McDonald's. I only have one to contribute, but

1835
01:35:40,613 --> 01:35:42,933
Speaker 4: you know that I don't I'm not. I don't eat McDonald's,

1836
01:35:42,973 --> 01:35:45,413
Speaker 4: but I do visit them when they're in quirky places.

1837
01:35:45,613 --> 01:35:47,973
Speaker 4: And I can proudly say that I have been to

1838
01:35:48,493 --> 01:35:53,093
Speaker 4: the only McDonald's on the island of Cuba. Wow, which

1839
01:35:53,173 --> 01:35:53,613
Speaker 4: is which is?

1840
01:35:53,733 --> 01:35:54,133
Speaker 5: Of course?

1841
01:35:55,213 --> 01:35:59,093
Speaker 4: It is of course in the Guantanamo Bay Military base,

1842
01:35:59,853 --> 01:36:02,373
Speaker 4: with the within the base. It's the only only one

1843
01:36:02,413 --> 01:36:04,253
Speaker 4: in Cuba. So there we go. We can I reckon,

1844
01:36:04,373 --> 01:36:06,173
Speaker 4: I seriously reckon. One day we can. We can add

1845
01:36:06,213 --> 01:36:07,573
Speaker 4: them all up and you and I could do a

1846
01:36:07,613 --> 01:36:09,733
Speaker 4: little segment together. That'd be a bit of fun day.

1847
01:36:10,173 --> 01:36:12,413
Speaker 4: But we'll keep things classy if now, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1848
01:36:12,413 --> 01:36:14,253
Speaker 4: we'll keep things classy. If now, make sure all of

1849
01:36:14,333 --> 01:36:17,893
Speaker 4: your tips for visiting Europe's top railway restaurants are up

1850
01:36:17,893 --> 01:36:20,373
Speaker 4: on the news talks He'd website. Travel safely, sir, and

1851
01:36:20,493 --> 01:36:21,333
Speaker 4: we will catch you soon.

1852
01:36:21,973 --> 01:36:28,693
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Jack, getting your weekends started. It's

1853
01:36:28,733 --> 01:36:32,213
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack team on News Talks EDB.

1854
01:36:54,333 --> 01:36:57,653
Speaker 4: News talks 'B with Jack Tame this Saturday Morning.

1855
01:36:58,293 --> 01:36:58,493
Speaker 21: Jack.

1856
01:36:58,573 --> 01:37:01,013
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's been a great show, but honestly, I

1857
01:37:01,093 --> 01:37:03,933
Speaker 4: stopped listening about an hour ago. Usually I would never

1858
01:37:04,013 --> 01:37:05,853
Speaker 4: read out this text, of course, but there's a reason

1859
01:37:05,933 --> 01:37:09,893
Speaker 4: for the stop listening. Stop listening an hour ago after

1860
01:37:09,933 --> 01:37:11,973
Speaker 4: your interview with Joe Williams from Toto, so that I

1861
01:37:12,053 --> 01:37:14,573
Speaker 4: could play a few of Toto's songs on the piano.

1862
01:37:14,613 --> 01:37:17,333
Speaker 4: I've spent the last hour on a keyboard with the

1863
01:37:17,373 --> 01:37:19,653
Speaker 4: help of a YouTube tutorial, trying to get my fingers

1864
01:37:19,653 --> 01:37:24,093
Speaker 4: around some of the hairy Africa chords. I really should

1865
01:37:24,173 --> 01:37:26,733
Speaker 4: know how to play in a recognizable fashion, one of

1866
01:37:26,813 --> 01:37:29,933
Speaker 4: my favorite tunes from the eighties, Infectious. Indeed, thank you

1867
01:37:30,053 --> 01:37:32,133
Speaker 4: for that said, and we're going to forgive you this

1868
01:37:32,253 --> 01:37:36,413
Speaker 4: time and this time only. But thank you, and don't worry.

1869
01:37:36,453 --> 01:37:38,133
Speaker 4: Of course, you can catch up with everything from our

1870
01:37:38,213 --> 01:37:40,853
Speaker 4: show by going to the website NEWSBOOKSZB dot co, dot

1871
01:37:40,973 --> 01:37:43,813
Speaker 4: mded Ford slash Jack, where you will find everything from

1872
01:37:43,853 --> 01:37:46,933
Speaker 4: the show. I very much enjoyed that interview with Joe Williams.

1873
01:37:47,013 --> 01:37:50,293
Speaker 4: What an amazing life and what an amazing family, Joe

1874
01:37:50,373 --> 01:37:53,893
Speaker 4: Williams and his dad John Williams, the amazing composer of

1875
01:37:53,933 --> 01:37:55,613
Speaker 4: the guy who wrote the Star Wars song, the guy

1876
01:37:55,653 --> 01:37:58,293
Speaker 4: who wrote the theme to Jurassic Park, et all of

1877
01:37:58,333 --> 01:38:02,653
Speaker 4: those Spielberg classics. What an amazing kind of musical family. Yay,

1878
01:38:02,693 --> 01:38:04,973
Speaker 4: So yeah, thank you for that. And I was thinking too,

1879
01:38:05,293 --> 01:38:07,093
Speaker 4: for all of my going on and on on about

1880
01:38:07,093 --> 01:38:11,373
Speaker 4: adolescents this morning, we should really be celebrating another amazing drama.

1881
01:38:12,053 --> 01:38:15,253
Speaker 4: Of course, news this week that after the Party, that

1882
01:38:15,373 --> 01:38:18,973
Speaker 4: amazing show that screened on TV and Z plus this year,

1883
01:38:18,973 --> 01:38:22,333
Speaker 4: and TVNZ won starring Robin Malcolm has been nominated for

1884
01:38:22,453 --> 01:38:26,293
Speaker 4: a Bafter. So yeah, a couple of fantastic shows that

1885
01:38:26,373 --> 01:38:28,613
Speaker 4: we can celebrate this week. Right now, it is twenty

1886
01:38:28,653 --> 01:38:30,813
Speaker 4: eight minutes to twelve after twelve o'clock on News Talks,

1887
01:38:30,853 --> 01:38:32,693
Speaker 4: he'd be Jason Pine will be in the hot seat

1888
01:38:32,773 --> 01:38:35,893
Speaker 4: for weekend Sport, and what a weekend of sport it is? Piney,

1889
01:38:35,973 --> 01:38:40,693
Speaker 4: we should start with Liam Lawson. My goodness, did you

1890
01:38:40,853 --> 01:38:43,453
Speaker 4: see this coming this time last week? Knowing that things

1891
01:38:43,493 --> 01:38:46,173
Speaker 4: were looking pretty tricky. He hanging into the last Grand Prix.

1892
01:38:46,293 --> 01:38:49,053
Speaker 4: Did you think it was possible Liam Lawson would be dropped? No,

1893
01:38:49,213 --> 01:38:49,573
Speaker 4: I didn't.

1894
01:38:49,733 --> 01:38:53,493
Speaker 25: I really did not see it coming Jack. After two

1895
01:38:53,693 --> 01:38:57,053
Speaker 25: races on unfamiliar tracks, one of them in the pouring

1896
01:38:57,173 --> 01:38:59,893
Speaker 25: rain in Melbourne, I really thought red Bull would have

1897
01:38:59,973 --> 01:39:03,693
Speaker 25: more patience than this. But for them to pull the

1898
01:39:03,733 --> 01:39:07,733
Speaker 25: trigger so early in the piece ahead of a Japanese

1899
01:39:07,773 --> 01:39:10,573
Speaker 25: Grand Prix, which is a track that Liam Lawson actually

1900
01:39:10,693 --> 01:39:13,333
Speaker 25: knows and knows pretty well, I think is a bit

1901
01:39:13,493 --> 01:39:15,533
Speaker 25: short sighted from red Ball. I think they've failed in

1902
01:39:15,573 --> 01:39:19,533
Speaker 25: their duty of care. That's one thing they've really, I

1903
01:39:19,613 --> 01:39:21,173
Speaker 25: don't want to say thrown him under the bus. He

1904
01:39:21,253 --> 01:39:23,653
Speaker 25: still got a seat, one of only twenty. But I

1905
01:39:23,813 --> 01:39:26,933
Speaker 25: just think it's been extremely badly managed by red Ball.

1906
01:39:26,973 --> 01:39:29,613
Speaker 25: Max for Stappan is on record as saying he doesn't

1907
01:39:29,653 --> 01:39:32,173
Speaker 25: agree with the decision. And you can't tell me, Jack

1908
01:39:32,213 --> 01:39:34,493
Speaker 25: that Yuki Sonoda is going to be able to drive

1909
01:39:34,533 --> 01:39:36,533
Speaker 25: a car which has been set up for a Stappin

1910
01:39:36,813 --> 01:39:37,933
Speaker 25: any better than Liam.

1911
01:39:37,733 --> 01:39:40,013
Speaker 4: Has been able to. Yeah, this is what I understand.

1912
01:39:40,253 --> 01:39:42,893
Speaker 4: It just says to me, like whoever's driving that second car,

1913
01:39:42,973 --> 01:39:46,013
Speaker 4: It just seems to be like facing an impossible challenge.

1914
01:39:46,373 --> 01:39:48,893
Speaker 4: I'm just just for the sake of playing Devil's advocate,

1915
01:39:48,973 --> 01:39:51,413
Speaker 4: because as you know, that's my other job. Sometimes I

1916
01:39:52,013 --> 01:39:55,493
Speaker 4: have to put forward difficult arguments. Yes, and I'm just

1917
01:39:55,533 --> 01:39:57,533
Speaker 4: saying this. I'm not saying I believe this. I'm just

1918
01:39:58,013 --> 01:39:59,453
Speaker 4: just to play Devil's advocate.

1919
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Speaker 5: Here.

1920
01:40:00,933 --> 01:40:03,013
Speaker 4: Is there an argument that Liam Lawson one of the

1921
01:40:03,053 --> 01:40:05,573
Speaker 4: reasons he got that Red Bull seat was because he

1922
01:40:05,693 --> 01:40:08,493
Speaker 4: impressed Red Ball with how aggressive he was last year,

1923
01:40:09,173 --> 01:40:12,493
Speaker 4: and that in being aggressive he might have actually got

1924
01:40:12,573 --> 01:40:14,653
Speaker 4: offside with a lot of the drivers and a lot

1925
01:40:14,693 --> 01:40:15,893
Speaker 4: of people in Each one world.

1926
01:40:16,053 --> 01:40:16,533
Speaker 5: Is that fair?

1927
01:40:17,173 --> 01:40:21,293
Speaker 4: It's it's not a bad yeah, so stick with it

1928
01:40:21,333 --> 01:40:24,253
Speaker 4: if if you agree with that in principle like that,

1929
01:40:24,933 --> 01:40:27,533
Speaker 4: maybe he has got offside a little bit by kind

1930
01:40:27,613 --> 01:40:31,533
Speaker 4: of you know, not being brash necessarily, but being confident

1931
01:40:31,613 --> 01:40:33,493
Speaker 4: and aggressive as you have to be as a driver.

1932
01:40:33,853 --> 01:40:36,253
Speaker 4: I just I'm just recall him pulling the fingers at

1933
01:40:36,293 --> 01:40:39,853
Speaker 4: another driver, and I wonder if for some people in

1934
01:40:39,973 --> 01:40:42,053
Speaker 4: Formula one world, there's going to be a bit of

1935
01:40:42,133 --> 01:40:44,413
Speaker 4: a you know, live by the sword, die by this

1936
01:40:44,453 --> 01:40:46,333
Speaker 4: sword kind of attitude here. They're going to say, you

1937
01:40:46,373 --> 01:40:48,573
Speaker 4: know what, you came out all confident in brash. You

1938
01:40:48,653 --> 01:40:50,653
Speaker 4: haven't lived up to it in your first couple of races.

1939
01:40:51,253 --> 01:40:53,813
Speaker 4: You you know, talked a big game and now you're

1940
01:40:53,973 --> 01:40:55,173
Speaker 4: kind of seeing the other side of that.

1941
01:40:55,413 --> 01:40:57,933
Speaker 25: Is that or that that narrative is definitely around, There's

1942
01:40:58,013 --> 01:41:01,013
Speaker 25: no question about that that those outside of the rebel operation,

1943
01:41:01,133 --> 01:41:05,013
Speaker 25: I'm sure are luxuriating in this and are probably enjoying it.

1944
01:41:05,093 --> 01:41:07,133
Speaker 25: But I don't think that's the reason he's had the

1945
01:41:07,173 --> 01:41:07,693
Speaker 25: seat taken on.

1946
01:41:07,933 --> 01:41:09,653
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think so either for

1947
01:41:09,693 --> 01:41:12,173
Speaker 4: a moment, But I do wonder if he's maybe not

1948
01:41:12,413 --> 01:41:15,333
Speaker 4: getting the sympathy then he might have otherwise right right

1949
01:41:16,093 --> 01:41:18,293
Speaker 4: being in this position, because it does seem absurd. I mean,

1950
01:41:18,333 --> 01:41:20,773
Speaker 4: I mean, surely they've made the switch because it's Yuki's

1951
01:41:20,813 --> 01:41:23,173
Speaker 4: gone Prix but Yuk's homegrownd pre But yeah.

1952
01:41:23,533 --> 01:41:25,893
Speaker 25: Because I've I've seen that argument put forward about how

1953
01:41:26,013 --> 01:41:29,973
Speaker 25: much more commercial value Yuki Sonoda brings the Liam Lawson. Well,

1954
01:41:29,973 --> 01:41:31,653
Speaker 25: if that was the case, they would have given them

1955
01:41:31,653 --> 01:41:35,453
Speaker 25: the seat to start the year, not two races in. Look,

1956
01:41:35,493 --> 01:41:38,613
Speaker 25: it's it's cutthroat, it is. But I've said a couple

1957
01:41:38,653 --> 01:41:40,773
Speaker 25: of times on air over the last twenty four hours

1958
01:41:40,853 --> 01:41:44,333
Speaker 25: or so Jack. You know that instant gratification mindset, not

1959
01:41:44,533 --> 01:41:47,093
Speaker 25: just a Formula one but of a lot of elite

1960
01:41:47,133 --> 01:41:51,413
Speaker 25: sport is just really really short sighted. You know, two

1961
01:41:51,613 --> 01:41:54,413
Speaker 25: races out of a twenty four race season.

1962
01:41:54,493 --> 01:41:54,973
Speaker 4: It's nuts.

1963
01:41:55,333 --> 01:41:55,653
Speaker 5: Surely.

1964
01:41:55,973 --> 01:41:57,293
Speaker 25: I mean at the start of the season, if you

1965
01:41:57,333 --> 01:41:59,093
Speaker 25: and I chatted about this in which okay, when in

1966
01:41:59,133 --> 01:42:01,253
Speaker 25: fact we might have, when do you think they'll make

1967
01:42:01,413 --> 01:42:04,293
Speaker 25: an accurate assessment? I think we both said at least

1968
01:42:04,333 --> 01:42:06,933
Speaker 25: give them half a dozen. Yeah, at least I mean two.

1969
01:42:07,493 --> 01:42:10,893
Speaker 25: It just seems so premature to me. But yeah, here

1970
01:42:10,933 --> 01:42:13,173
Speaker 25: we are, Yeah, here we are. Okay, what's on the

1971
01:42:13,173 --> 01:42:15,573
Speaker 25: show this afternoon, sir? Well, the Liam lost the stuff

1972
01:42:15,573 --> 01:42:17,413
Speaker 25: I want to cover off tomorrow in quite some death

1973
01:42:17,453 --> 01:42:19,533
Speaker 25: because after mid day today we've got Andrew Webster live

1974
01:42:19,573 --> 01:42:22,533
Speaker 25: in studio will So Warrior's coach, for an extended chat

1975
01:42:22,573 --> 01:42:25,453
Speaker 25: about the season, about his coaching philosophy, how he deals

1976
01:42:25,533 --> 01:42:27,933
Speaker 25: with different types of players. Also what happened in Vegas.

1977
01:42:28,013 --> 01:42:31,293
Speaker 25: I want to find out about that. So yeah, so, yeah,

1978
01:42:31,373 --> 01:42:33,653
Speaker 25: well I'll give it a crack anyway. So Andrew Webster

1979
01:42:34,093 --> 01:42:38,013
Speaker 25: leading us off after after twelve today A bit later on, well,

1980
01:42:38,173 --> 01:42:40,653
Speaker 25: we'll do some Super Rugby and other bits and pieces. Yeah,

1981
01:42:40,693 --> 01:42:43,453
Speaker 25: but for for weekend sport fans who want to chat

1982
01:42:43,493 --> 01:42:45,733
Speaker 25: a bit of Liam Lawson, that opportunity will be after

1983
01:42:45,813 --> 01:42:46,773
Speaker 25: mid day tomorrow.

1984
01:42:46,933 --> 01:42:49,613
Speaker 4: Who's your pick for Crusaders more Ona Pacifica this evening.

1985
01:42:49,853 --> 01:42:51,813
Speaker 25: I would love to see more Wana Pacifica win the show.

1986
01:42:53,613 --> 01:42:55,493
Speaker 25: I don't think more Onana Pacifica will win the game

1987
01:42:55,533 --> 01:42:58,533
Speaker 25: of rugby. I watched the Crusaders dismantle the Blues at

1988
01:42:58,653 --> 01:43:00,613
Speaker 25: Eden Park a week ago and I was I'm oppressed

1989
01:43:00,653 --> 01:43:02,933
Speaker 25: with them, man, I just it feels like last year

1990
01:43:03,013 --> 01:43:04,293
Speaker 25: was just an outlier.

1991
01:43:03,973 --> 01:43:06,973
Speaker 4: And turn around it is crazy.

1992
01:43:07,173 --> 01:43:08,413
Speaker 25: And then you look at the players they have and

1993
01:43:08,493 --> 01:43:11,253
Speaker 25: you think, well, actually, I'm not surprised. Will Jordan playing

1994
01:43:11,333 --> 01:43:13,253
Speaker 25: like he you know, like he always has. I think

1995
01:43:13,293 --> 01:43:15,493
Speaker 25: David Havili is a massive part of that team and

1996
01:43:15,613 --> 01:43:17,613
Speaker 25: running the cutter in a in a you know, in

1997
01:43:17,653 --> 01:43:20,333
Speaker 25: a relatively inexperienced backline, and then up front you've got

1998
01:43:20,733 --> 01:43:22,493
Speaker 25: all sorts of all blacks here and there. So look,

1999
01:43:22,493 --> 01:43:24,693
Speaker 25: I expect them to win and win. Well did you

2000
01:43:24,773 --> 01:43:26,373
Speaker 25: catch the Hurricanes winning and.

2001
01:43:26,453 --> 01:43:28,533
Speaker 4: Winning well last night? Look it was a fello out

2002
01:43:28,533 --> 01:43:30,453
Speaker 4: of that. It was only it was it was only

2003
01:43:30,533 --> 01:43:32,533
Speaker 4: the task. You know, if it had been the Brumbies,

2004
01:43:32,573 --> 01:43:33,453
Speaker 4: I would have been impressed.

2005
01:43:33,493 --> 01:43:35,013
Speaker 2: But no, no, no, it was.

2006
01:43:35,133 --> 01:43:37,253
Speaker 4: It wasn't a bad performance last night. I tell you what, though,

2007
01:43:37,813 --> 01:43:40,733
Speaker 4: Maybe Red Bull could learn something from the Crusaders right

2008
01:43:40,813 --> 01:43:43,413
Speaker 4: and stickability and actually giving people a little bit more

2009
01:43:43,453 --> 01:43:45,773
Speaker 4: of a chance and maybe not just running them off immediately,

2010
01:43:45,853 --> 01:43:48,453
Speaker 4: because like you say, that turnaround is something.

2011
01:43:48,933 --> 01:43:50,933
Speaker 25: I'm going to write that down and own that opinion

2012
01:43:51,013 --> 01:43:55,293
Speaker 25: as part of the lead and tomorrow Jay Tame here

2013
01:43:55,413 --> 01:43:59,133
Speaker 25: is Jay pines that opinion and to reiterate that the

2014
01:43:59,213 --> 01:44:02,733
Speaker 25: other one wasn't mine. I was merely playing people's advocate. Hey,

2015
01:44:02,773 --> 01:44:03,333
Speaker 25: thank you so much.

2016
01:44:03,373 --> 01:44:05,693
Speaker 4: Looking forward to this afternoon, Sir Jason Pine behind the

2017
01:44:05,773 --> 01:44:08,213
Speaker 4: mic for Weekie Sport right after the twelve o'clock news

2018
01:44:08,253 --> 01:44:11,213
Speaker 4: before midday. We've got that new album from Mumford and

2019
01:44:11,333 --> 01:44:13,213
Speaker 4: Sons that we're going to share with you. Next up,

2020
01:44:13,253 --> 01:44:15,413
Speaker 4: we've got your book picks for this weekend.

2021
01:44:17,693 --> 01:44:21,893
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

2022
01:44:22,213 --> 01:44:23,533
Speaker 1: Power by News Talks B.

2023
01:44:24,453 --> 01:44:27,813
Speaker 4: Twenty to twelve on news Talks Ed. Be time to

2024
01:44:27,893 --> 01:44:30,213
Speaker 4: catch up with our book reviewer Katherine Rains, who has

2025
01:44:30,333 --> 01:44:33,493
Speaker 4: two reads for us this weekend. Hey Catherine, morning Jack.

2026
01:44:33,893 --> 01:44:36,573
Speaker 4: Let's begin with a new book from Rachel Paris. The

2027
01:44:36,613 --> 01:44:38,693
Speaker 4: book is called See How They Fall.

2028
01:44:39,613 --> 01:44:42,093
Speaker 16: So this is written in a style that's a bit

2029
01:44:42,133 --> 01:44:44,973
Speaker 16: like a Who Done It mystery, and it's set in Sydney,

2030
01:44:45,453 --> 01:44:47,853
Speaker 16: and the story is told by two women who take

2031
01:44:47,973 --> 01:44:50,173
Speaker 16: alternating chapters and points of view. And the first is

2032
01:44:50,253 --> 01:44:52,893
Speaker 16: Sky who's a mum, and the second is Min who's

2033
01:44:52,973 --> 01:44:55,613
Speaker 16: a police officer. And we meet Sky first off, and

2034
01:44:55,693 --> 01:44:58,373
Speaker 16: she's married to Duncan Turner and together they have this

2035
01:44:58,453 --> 01:45:01,493
Speaker 16: lovely six year old daughter called Tilly. And Duncan's father

2036
01:45:01,693 --> 01:45:03,973
Speaker 16: is the very rich and famous Sir Campbell Turner, who's

2037
01:45:04,013 --> 01:45:07,053
Speaker 16: this owner of this luxury goods empire, and he's just

2038
01:45:07,213 --> 01:45:10,373
Speaker 16: died and his three sons, Jamie, Duncan and Hugo are

2039
01:45:10,413 --> 01:45:13,013
Speaker 16: set to inherit the family business. And so to sort

2040
01:45:13,133 --> 01:45:16,493
Speaker 16: things out and process what's gone on, the family decide

2041
01:45:16,493 --> 01:45:19,293
Speaker 16: to gather for this weekend retreat so effectively they can

2042
01:45:19,333 --> 01:45:21,733
Speaker 16: discuss the next steps of what's going to happen. But

2043
01:45:21,893 --> 01:45:25,333
Speaker 16: added into the mix is Duncan's adult son, Cody, who

2044
01:45:25,413 --> 01:45:28,653
Speaker 16: no one and the family has met. Duncan himself has

2045
01:45:28,733 --> 01:45:31,773
Speaker 16: just learned that about him from a previous relationship. And

2046
01:45:31,853 --> 01:45:34,093
Speaker 16: so as the family gets together, all the tensions and

2047
01:45:34,213 --> 01:45:37,293
Speaker 16: tempers and all sorts of things begin to flare. And

2048
01:45:37,413 --> 01:45:40,973
Speaker 16: then the next morning everything changes, and there's some tragic

2049
01:45:41,013 --> 01:45:43,693
Speaker 16: events that happened Sky's daughter till He's been poisoned and

2050
01:45:43,773 --> 01:45:46,573
Speaker 16: now in a coma, and Jamie's wife Nina, who was

2051
01:45:46,653 --> 01:45:49,973
Speaker 16: also poisoned, has died, and everybody in the house, of course,

2052
01:45:50,093 --> 01:45:52,213
Speaker 16: is now a suspect. And this is where my the

2053
01:45:52,333 --> 01:45:55,173
Speaker 16: detective comes in, because she immediately knows that there's more

2054
01:45:55,333 --> 01:45:57,613
Speaker 16: to the case that meets the eye, and Sky of

2055
01:45:57,653 --> 01:46:00,173
Speaker 16: course is determined to find out who poisoned her little girl.

2056
01:46:00,333 --> 01:46:02,453
Speaker 16: And then there's lots of secrets that will be uncovered

2057
01:46:02,453 --> 01:46:05,173
Speaker 16: and people try to keep their secrets haden. And this

2058
01:46:05,733 --> 01:46:08,053
Speaker 16: domestics sort of takes place over a week, and there's

2059
01:46:08,133 --> 01:46:11,053
Speaker 16: lots of red hearings and a surprising ending, but great

2060
01:46:11,133 --> 01:46:13,493
Speaker 16: twists and turns and some very interesting characters.

2061
01:46:14,133 --> 01:46:17,013
Speaker 4: Yeah cool, that sounds great, Catherine, Let's see how they fall.

2062
01:46:17,093 --> 01:46:20,213
Speaker 4: It's by Rachel Paris. You've also read Nobody's Full the

2063
01:46:20,293 --> 01:46:23,053
Speaker 4: latest from Harlan Coben, so nobody's.

2064
01:46:22,653 --> 01:46:26,413
Speaker 16: Full brings back an old character called Sammy Queses, who

2065
01:46:26,773 --> 01:46:29,893
Speaker 16: was in for me once and that saw him being

2066
01:46:29,933 --> 01:46:34,093
Speaker 16: stood down from the NYPD and his ex fiance now

2067
01:46:34,253 --> 01:46:38,813
Speaker 16: had been murdered. And now he's teaching a chromeology car

2068
01:46:39,253 --> 01:46:42,133
Speaker 16: class and his face from his past turns up in

2069
01:46:42,173 --> 01:46:45,533
Speaker 16: his class. But he knows that this person is impossible

2070
01:46:45,573 --> 01:46:48,493
Speaker 16: to meet because this woman called Anna is dead and

2071
01:46:48,693 --> 01:46:51,253
Speaker 16: he had found her body covered in blood twenty two

2072
01:46:51,373 --> 01:46:53,613
Speaker 16: years ago in Spain, and that was the point where

2073
01:46:53,653 --> 01:46:56,893
Speaker 16: his whole life changed, because back there he's fled this

2074
01:46:57,013 --> 01:47:00,413
Speaker 16: hotel room race to the police station to give a statement,

2075
01:47:00,573 --> 01:47:03,213
Speaker 16: and then when the question that the officer's questioned his involvement,

2076
01:47:03,613 --> 01:47:05,733
Speaker 16: he caught the first plane back to the States, and

2077
01:47:06,093 --> 01:47:09,133
Speaker 16: this incident derailed his entire life, and he dropped out

2078
01:47:09,133 --> 01:47:12,093
Speaker 16: of medical school. He drank himself into a blavion, and

2079
01:47:12,213 --> 01:47:15,293
Speaker 16: he actually changed kreas to become a cop to redeem

2080
01:47:15,413 --> 01:47:18,773
Speaker 16: himself almost And while he's in this classroom, he's thinking,

2081
01:47:18,933 --> 01:47:21,293
Speaker 16: how can that be her? The last time he woke

2082
01:47:21,413 --> 01:47:23,173
Speaker 16: up covered in her blood and a knife in his hand,

2083
01:47:23,613 --> 01:47:27,373
Speaker 16: and when he acknowledges her, she runs, and so he's

2084
01:47:27,493 --> 01:47:29,853
Speaker 16: trying to track down this woman who might be Anna

2085
01:47:30,213 --> 01:47:33,133
Speaker 16: and discovers that she's connected to this very powerful family

2086
01:47:34,013 --> 01:47:37,333
Speaker 16: and things start to come out of this decade's old mystery.

2087
01:47:37,533 --> 01:47:41,573
Speaker 16: And then meanwhile, his ex fiance's convicted killer is released

2088
01:47:41,573 --> 01:47:44,693
Speaker 16: from prison unexpectedly, claiming that he's innocent and wanting to

2089
01:47:44,733 --> 01:47:47,133
Speaker 16: team up with Sammy to find the real murder.

2090
01:47:47,453 --> 01:47:48,693
Speaker 8: So, without giving.

2091
01:47:48,493 --> 01:47:51,093
Speaker 16: Away any spoilers, there's lots of mystery and action in

2092
01:47:51,173 --> 01:47:53,453
Speaker 16: this book, and the very web of tangled lies and

2093
01:47:53,493 --> 01:47:56,213
Speaker 16: mis directions and events, and it keeps you guessing and hooked.

2094
01:47:57,093 --> 01:48:00,013
Speaker 16: And it's fascinating the way that everything starts to tie

2095
01:48:00,093 --> 01:48:01,013
Speaker 16: together towards the end.

2096
01:48:01,133 --> 01:48:02,413
Speaker 4: Yeah, Harlen Common is so good.

2097
01:48:02,453 --> 01:48:02,573
Speaker 24: Eh.

2098
01:48:02,973 --> 01:48:06,613
Speaker 16: So he's so good at leaving these red hair and

2099
01:48:06,693 --> 01:48:08,653
Speaker 16: these trails and you start to you kind of start

2100
01:48:08,693 --> 01:48:10,453
Speaker 16: to go down this path and it's not really bad.

2101
01:48:10,613 --> 01:48:13,253
Speaker 16: And how he ties his character it very clever.

2102
01:48:13,413 --> 01:48:15,973
Speaker 4: Either, very random bit of trivia for him. Do you

2103
01:48:16,013 --> 01:48:18,813
Speaker 4: know he's friends with Chris Childhood, friends with Chris Christie.

2104
01:48:19,013 --> 01:48:21,173
Speaker 4: You remember the governor of New Jersey ran for prison

2105
01:48:21,253 --> 01:48:21,813
Speaker 4: a couple of times.

2106
01:48:21,893 --> 01:48:22,093
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2107
01:48:22,373 --> 01:48:24,893
Speaker 4: Anyway, Yeah, they are the friends from Charlhood. They grow

2108
01:48:24,973 --> 01:48:28,653
Speaker 4: up together, so anyway, Small World, Thank you so much, Catherine.

2109
01:48:28,693 --> 01:48:31,413
Speaker 4: So That's Nobody's Fall by Harlan Coben and See How

2110
01:48:31,453 --> 01:48:34,773
Speaker 4: They Fall by Rachel Paris. Both of those books will

2111
01:48:34,813 --> 01:48:36,453
Speaker 4: be up on the news Talk He'd be website if

2112
01:48:36,453 --> 01:48:37,973
Speaker 4: you would like to read along at home, just to

2113
01:48:38,013 --> 01:48:40,013
Speaker 4: keep you up to date with the cricket, the black

2114
01:48:40,093 --> 01:48:44,293
Speaker 4: Caps Pakistan in Napier Huldy today black Caps are betting

2115
01:48:44,333 --> 01:48:46,333
Speaker 4: thirty three for one. Will Young got out for one.

2116
01:48:46,813 --> 01:48:49,533
Speaker 4: Nick Kelly is currently on fifteen not out. Henry Nichols

2117
01:48:49,613 --> 01:48:52,853
Speaker 4: also at the crease on three. I think about seven

2118
01:48:52,933 --> 01:48:56,053
Speaker 4: right overs have gone. If there's anything dramatic in the

2119
01:48:56,133 --> 01:48:57,813
Speaker 4: next fifteen minutes or so, I'll make sure we'll let

2120
01:48:57,853 --> 01:48:57,973
Speaker 4: you know.

2121
01:48:58,373 --> 01:48:58,613
Speaker 5: Right now.

2122
01:48:58,613 --> 01:49:02,093
Speaker 28: It's called It to twelve giving you the inside scoop

2123
01:49:02,173 --> 01:49:04,773
Speaker 28: on all you need to know Saturday Mornings with Jack

2124
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2125
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2126
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Speaker 5: It'd be when I.

2127
01:49:10,413 --> 01:49:15,333
Speaker 29: Look into yours, I feel further every time, but I

2128
01:49:15,453 --> 01:49:19,453
Speaker 29: see the roots that take put a siver down my spine.

2129
01:49:20,333 --> 01:49:24,333
Speaker 29: I came here asking nothing, but I'm leaving with a list.

2130
01:49:25,133 --> 01:49:26,093
Speaker 2: I was born.

2131
01:49:27,413 --> 01:49:29,813
Speaker 5: To believe the truth is.

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Speaker 4: This is Mumford and Sons. That song is called Truth.

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Speaker 4: They've got a new album. It's their first in Yonks.

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Speaker 4: The album is called Rushmir, not Rushmore. It's called rash

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Speaker 4: Mer and our music review at stale Cliff it's been listening.

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Speaker 4: Hey Stelle, Hello.

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Speaker 30: Anytime I try and write there and sewing my phone

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01:49:49,173 --> 01:49:51,013
Speaker 30: or a message, it does change it to Rushmore one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 30: So it's kind of one of those ones where you're

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01:49:53,573 --> 01:49:57,413
Speaker 30: like what it also yeah, yeah, also, so that is

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Speaker 30: named it's after the place where they met. And yeah,

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01:50:02,653 --> 01:50:06,213
Speaker 30: it's like a pond, Rushmere pond and so on their album.

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Speaker 30: Other is like the scenery and a pond, not rush

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01:50:09,933 --> 01:50:13,853
Speaker 30: not Rushmia. Just some random photo of a pond in America.

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Speaker 4: Okay, why why because they're sons, that's why, Stelle.

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Speaker 13: Why didn't you take a photo of the proper play.

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01:50:22,453 --> 01:50:23,933
Speaker 13: So yeah, I'm so weirded.

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Speaker 4: Out by the You know, if you're horrified by that,

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01:50:26,813 --> 01:50:27,893
Speaker 4: I've got some bad news for you.

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Speaker 13: You're not loving this album.

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01:50:30,533 --> 01:50:33,453
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I was gonna say, there is no

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01:50:33,613 --> 01:50:34,893
Speaker 4: month and they're not his sons.

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Speaker 13: No, there's no sons.

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Speaker 30: There's yeah, yeah, Marcus, there's Marcus and I guess maybe

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01:50:42,533 --> 01:50:44,533
Speaker 30: he just looks at his friends as they're his sons,

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Speaker 30: his disciples.

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Speaker 13: I don't know, we could go deep on that. That's

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01:50:49,693 --> 01:50:50,253
Speaker 13: that song there.

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Speaker 30: I actually do quite like it's a little bit of

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01:50:51,933 --> 01:50:54,413
Speaker 30: a you know, a bit of a move different to

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01:50:54,533 --> 01:50:58,733
Speaker 30: them than that. It's got that more rock, doesn't It

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01:50:58,813 --> 01:51:01,813
Speaker 30: doesn't have a bando, so definitely more of a rock guitar.

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01:51:01,893 --> 01:51:03,653
Speaker 30: There's quite a cool riff through it, which I think

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01:51:03,733 --> 01:51:07,093
Speaker 30: is quite catchy, but probably not as obvious. And Sons

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01:51:07,613 --> 01:51:09,933
Speaker 30: his voice is still quite the standout, like it's quite

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01:51:09,973 --> 01:51:10,933
Speaker 30: distinctive I think.

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Speaker 13: Over their music.

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Speaker 30: So yeah, they're banjoist, little word banjoist, benjois player.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 30: He left a few years ago, which I guess was

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01:51:22,093 --> 01:51:24,733
Speaker 30: the start of the end. So now they're down to

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01:51:24,773 --> 01:51:26,613
Speaker 30: being a trio. There was like that seven year gap

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01:51:26,813 --> 01:51:30,053
Speaker 30: Marcus Mumford did a solo album, but actually they've kind

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01:51:30,053 --> 01:51:33,013
Speaker 30: of come back and I think probably a good place

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01:51:33,053 --> 01:51:35,933
Speaker 30: to revisit where they began and what that actually means.

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Speaker 30: There is still, thank goodness, there is still some banjo

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01:51:39,453 --> 01:51:42,493
Speaker 30: and folk, fast paced kind of stuff that I think

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Speaker 30: it would be weird if Mumford and Sons didn't give.

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01:51:44,653 --> 01:51:45,093
Speaker 13: Us some of that.

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01:51:46,333 --> 01:51:49,413
Speaker 30: I expect it, so you've got to have some of

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01:51:49,493 --> 01:51:52,373
Speaker 30: it on there, and there definitely is some of that,

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01:51:52,533 --> 01:51:54,133
Speaker 30: but it's probably just in a different kind of way.

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01:51:54,933 --> 01:51:57,493
Speaker 30: I did see an interview with Marcus Mumford that hole

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01:51:58,173 --> 01:52:00,533
Speaker 30: you have to be a little more. You actually have

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01:52:00,613 --> 01:52:02,773
Speaker 30: to say what you're thinking, as opposed to hiding away,

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01:52:02,813 --> 01:52:06,293
Speaker 30: because you can't be a minority factor when you're there's

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01:52:06,533 --> 01:52:08,893
Speaker 30: three of you, Like you know, you can take two,

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01:52:08,933 --> 01:52:10,613
Speaker 30: and two can take sides when you're coming up with

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01:52:10,693 --> 01:52:12,853
Speaker 30: ideas or whatever, but there's three of you, there's no

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01:52:13,013 --> 01:52:15,173
Speaker 30: real side to take because you're kind of like a

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01:52:15,253 --> 01:52:18,613
Speaker 30: lone wolf. So he sees it's been quite a different

2193
01:52:18,653 --> 01:52:21,413
Speaker 30: way in process to right. Everyone's had to share their

2194
01:52:21,413 --> 01:52:24,853
Speaker 30: feelings perhaps a little bit more, which is probably quite good.

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01:52:24,893 --> 01:52:27,453
Speaker 30: It's quite as sort of some dark, sort of I

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01:52:27,533 --> 01:52:31,133
Speaker 30: guess topics at the start, with some form of hopeful

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01:52:31,173 --> 01:52:34,053
Speaker 30: resolution towards the end. So there's an album where I

2198
01:52:34,093 --> 01:52:37,133
Speaker 30: think they've done some storytelling from beginning to end, but

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Speaker 30: I don't think that necessarily means you have to listen

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01:52:39,533 --> 01:52:43,053
Speaker 30: to the album like that. Marcus has been hanging out

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01:52:43,093 --> 01:52:47,493
Speaker 30: with people like Joni Mitchell, Shuka Khan Forrell Williams and

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01:52:47,533 --> 01:52:51,093
Speaker 30: people not like just casually call throwing out their names,

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01:52:51,133 --> 01:52:53,613
Speaker 30: and Chris Martin and Coldplay, So he's probably been a

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01:52:53,613 --> 01:52:57,413
Speaker 30: little bit influenced by by that. I guess influenced by

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01:52:57,453 --> 01:52:59,333
Speaker 30: the fact that he spends more time in the States

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01:52:59,373 --> 01:53:02,253
Speaker 30: in Nashville than he does anywhere else. So there's kind

2207
01:53:02,253 --> 01:53:04,053
Speaker 30: of some of that sort of folk indie stuff that's

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01:53:04,053 --> 01:53:06,453
Speaker 30: coming through a little bit more in their music, and

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01:53:06,533 --> 01:53:08,453
Speaker 30: maybe that's sort of the some of the dark cloud

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01:53:08,493 --> 01:53:12,213
Speaker 30: that's over that as well. They still do some really

2211
01:53:12,333 --> 01:53:15,893
Speaker 30: nice There's a beautiful song actually called Where It Belongs,

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01:53:16,293 --> 01:53:21,093
Speaker 30: and it's this calmer, acoustic, real rich harmonies track, you

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01:53:21,133 --> 01:53:24,573
Speaker 30: know those beautiful and folks songs when those uses just

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01:53:24,733 --> 01:53:28,133
Speaker 30: blend and it kind of gives you other tingles. That's

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01:53:28,133 --> 01:53:30,733
Speaker 30: actually a really great song to showcase that and that

2216
01:53:30,893 --> 01:53:33,053
Speaker 30: hope for kindness and that people need to shake off

2217
01:53:33,053 --> 01:53:35,293
Speaker 30: their anger, because you know, there's there's a bit of

2218
01:53:35,333 --> 01:53:36,133
Speaker 30: that day where it feels like.

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01:53:36,093 --> 01:53:38,693
Speaker 13: Everyone's just quite angry about things very much.

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01:53:38,773 --> 01:53:41,133
Speaker 30: So yeah, so that's that speaks to the tone of

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01:53:41,133 --> 01:53:43,093
Speaker 30: where we're at, and I think that they do capture

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01:53:43,133 --> 01:53:46,133
Speaker 30: that quite well. And I kind of like their call

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01:53:46,213 --> 01:53:50,013
Speaker 30: to arms, strum along, full on as fast as you

2224
01:53:50,093 --> 01:53:52,413
Speaker 30: can kind of song. I actually quite like that sort

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01:53:52,413 --> 01:53:55,053
Speaker 30: of propulsion of energy moving forward.

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01:53:56,733 --> 01:53:58,733
Speaker 4: It's kind of not very cold or something, but I

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01:53:58,973 --> 01:54:03,373
Speaker 4: quite like their banjo stuff absolutely. Yeah.

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01:54:03,733 --> 01:54:06,733
Speaker 13: I just sort of distinctive to them, isn't it It is?

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01:54:06,813 --> 01:54:09,653
Speaker 4: And I'm not so totally sure about mumf and Sons

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01:54:09,693 --> 01:54:10,413
Speaker 4: sands banjo.

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01:54:11,333 --> 01:54:12,133
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah.

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01:54:12,173 --> 01:54:15,293
Speaker 13: And that's the thing.

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01:54:15,333 --> 01:54:19,133
Speaker 30: If you've had a dedicated artist who that's the line

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01:54:19,173 --> 01:54:21,093
Speaker 30: that they deliver in an album, it is going to

2235
01:54:21,173 --> 01:54:23,173
Speaker 30: change that sound. And there's definitely more of that rock

2236
01:54:23,773 --> 01:54:26,613
Speaker 30: guitar electric stuff than they've done where they used to

2237
01:54:26,653 --> 01:54:28,893
Speaker 30: be that real acoustic kind of sound.

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Speaker 13: Like I say, there is a bit of banjo, but

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01:54:31,213 --> 01:54:31,493
Speaker 13: you know you.

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Speaker 4: Don't have that that's so yeah.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, but I agree with you. I think that was

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01:54:37,453 --> 01:54:38,573
Speaker 13: their charm in the first place.

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01:54:38,733 --> 01:54:38,893
Speaker 4: Yea.

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01:54:39,333 --> 01:54:40,653
Speaker 13: And and that's the thing.

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01:54:41,173 --> 01:54:43,453
Speaker 30: There's an energy about it that makes you kind of,

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01:54:43,853 --> 01:54:45,253
Speaker 30: you know, tap your foot and you can't help but

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01:54:45,333 --> 01:54:45,773
Speaker 30: be part of that.

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01:54:45,933 --> 01:54:47,413
Speaker 13: So there's still some of that in here, so you

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01:54:47,653 --> 01:54:49,173
Speaker 13: won't miss it completely.

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Speaker 4: But it is a different there's a different sound yeah.

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01:54:51,133 --> 01:54:52,293
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's very considered.

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01:54:52,613 --> 01:54:54,533
Speaker 30: It's coming out of some dark spaces. I think that's

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01:54:54,533 --> 01:54:57,493
Speaker 30: probably probably okay too. There'll be something that's stick in

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01:54:57,533 --> 01:54:57,973
Speaker 30: your head.

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Speaker 13: More than others, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, Rush that you've got to

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01:55:01,493 --> 01:55:03,893
Speaker 4: play soon. Yeah, that's the one. I think that that

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01:55:03,973 --> 01:55:05,813
Speaker 4: sounds like a bit of a bang, right, come here

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01:55:06,493 --> 01:55:11,373
Speaker 4: not more? Yeah, Rush Mayor, what'd you give it?

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01:55:12,173 --> 01:55:14,213
Speaker 13: I'm giving it a seven out of ten? Cool, it's

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01:55:14,213 --> 01:55:15,133
Speaker 13: still a solid listen.

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01:55:15,293 --> 01:55:17,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice, okay, cool? Seven out of ten for Months

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Speaker 4: and Sons and Rush Mayor the latest album. Thank you

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01:55:20,533 --> 01:55:22,613
Speaker 4: very much to Stell. We will see next week and

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01:55:22,693 --> 01:55:24,293
Speaker 4: play that song for you in a couple of minutes

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Speaker 4: to see you know the black Caps have lost another.

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Speaker 4: Wicke at the Now thirty five for two, Henry Nichols,

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Speaker 4: Mark Chapman at the Crease seven to twelve.

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01:56:06,933 --> 01:56:08,893
Speaker 4: Until then, we're gonna leave you with Momfa and sons.

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Speaker 4: The new album is rush Me. This is the title track,

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Speaker 4: Don't Like.

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01:56:13,973 --> 01:56:14,693
Speaker 3: To Your sol.

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01:56:18,053 --> 01:56:25,493
Speaker 29: There's man Names and Marge Kennery. There's Beauty in the Bain,

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01:56:26,933 --> 01:56:29,613
Speaker 29: Don't Lie to Yourself.

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01:56:32,693 --> 01:56:38,493
Speaker 31: Light me Up, bom Wasted in the Dark, rush Me

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01:56:38,653 --> 01:56:48,413
Speaker 31: a restless heart. This something we might miss an.

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01:56:52,093 --> 01:56:53,893
Speaker 16: Sun, Don't let us down

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