1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Now it apparently takes an average of fifty days nowadays 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: to seller house in New Zealand, and prices are still 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: largely flat. Inflementary Infametrix principle economist Brad Olson's with me. 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: Now, hey, Brad, good evening. 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So what's the market actually doing? Is it volatile 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: or has it settled into a kind of a flat space? 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's broadly pretty flat at the moment, 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: I think. I mean, there was a little bit of 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: evidence in the data that we got today from the 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: Real Estate Institute suggesting that maybe there've been a little 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: bit of a pop higher in prices in the month 12 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: of September, but to be fair, that would be the 13 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: first time we'd seen a monthly increase since April, so 14 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: nearly half a year. Realistically, that means you've had six 15 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: months of down and then one month of up, so 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: really you're not going anywhere fast on the price front. 17 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: I think the thing that gets me hither when we 18 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 2: look through the housing market at the moment, and this 19 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: is going to be the challenge for sellers particularly Not 20 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 2: only is it taking fifty days on a seasonally adjusted 21 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: basis to seller house, but there's about half a year's 22 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: worth of house sales currently sitting on the market unsolved, 23 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of choice out there. Good if 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: you're one of those limited number of buyers, but not 25 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: so good if you're trying to sell a house, because 26 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: you're competing with everyone else to sell it. 27 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: So I mean that obviously drives prices down, right, So 28 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: should we expect prices to continue to fall? 29 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: What we are seeing at the moment is that the 30 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: number of houses left on the market is high, but 31 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: ever so slightly starting to either decrease or sort of 32 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: track sideways. So I think we're likely to see house 33 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: prices be fairly subdued. And I say that because you 34 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: could see a few months of ups and a few 35 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: months of downs at different points. But realistically, I don't 36 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: think that you're going to see a whole art lot. 37 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: And that's sort of the big one. Because, yes, interest 38 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: rates are coming down, which of course should stimulate a 39 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: bit more buyer activity, But realistically, there's still a lot 40 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: of people out there who are trying to sell a house, 41 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: so for the moment, still more in the buyer's hands 42 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: than in the sellars. 43 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Are you seeing that one month of price increases as 44 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: a bit of a shift. 45 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a little bit too early to read into it. 46 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: I mean, is it coincidences at the start of something new. 47 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: One month's worth of data probably doesn't tell us. It 48 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: could be a little bit of it coming through. You've 49 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: definitely heard a lot of people who are talking with 50 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: a lot more optimism in the housing market. But I 51 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: think we'll want to wait and see. Regardless, I don't 52 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: think we're about to see, you know, the housing market 53 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: really perk up. It's likely to just be sort of 54 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: hovering for a little while. 55 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: Brad, what are you picking for the inflation number tomorrow? 56 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: I think we're at two point two two point three, 57 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: so sort of in that ballpark regardless. I mean, the 58 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: numbers are likely to look a lot better in a sense, 59 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: which is certainly encouraging. It's one of those things though 60 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: part of that has been driven by the likes of 61 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: petrol and similar so jury's out as to where we're 62 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: going from here. But realistically, I think we're in a 63 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: much better spot and that's encouraging news for the economy. 64 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: More interest rate reductions on the way, so better things 65 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: around the corner. Stuff. 66 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't be more happy about it Brad, Thank 67 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: you very much, Brad Olsen, Principal economist it in for Metrics. 68 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. 69 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: Listen live to news talks that'd be from four pm weekdays, 70 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio