Speaker 1: Inside met for getting you closer to the game you
Speaker 1: love with Adean Wilson, Anna Stanley and Jenny Woods. Soured
Speaker 1: by news talks that'd be I've got a koto and
Speaker 1: welcome to Inside Netball. We've got the full team back
Speaker 1: together this week. Jean has done a fabulous job holding
Speaker 1: down the fort. But I thought it was about time
Speaker 1: I returned back from Bali and swapped my cocktails for
Speaker 1: cups of tea.
Speaker 2: You were there a long time, good time forever.
Speaker 1: It didn't feel for ever. It was a great break,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure Adean you're enjoying being back from your
Speaker 1: menagerial duties down in Wellington for basketball. I think the
Speaker 1: last post I saw you were doing the laundry at midnight.
Speaker 1: I mean's a bit at one o'clock that night, all
Speaker 1: morning and then I think we're up at like five
Speaker 1: thirty two games a day, a lot of washing, you know,
Speaker 1: eleven boys to rush around after, honest to goodness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but love it love It's good. So Jenny, we are back.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for covering for us. Are you
Speaker 1: happy Mum and dadd are back with you.
Speaker 2: I feel so much better not to say that Eyvon
Speaker 2: was so absolutely.
Speaker 1: Super sub Yeah, loved it. But before we get into it,
Speaker 1: I have to say Adean game On debuted last night
Speaker 1: on TV three. For everyone that doesn't know, Adean is
Speaker 1: back playing a bit of netty alongside some of her
Speaker 1: Silver Foon teammates. Started with the fitness test and you
Speaker 1: won the Bronco for the Fernees. I should have won
Speaker 1: it over everybody, but on my very last turn, my
Speaker 1: achilles completely gave out and I got just pipped at
Speaker 1: the line by Tira may So. A bit to work on.
Speaker 1: But how about Irene? She could have kept going four
Speaker 1: minute plank and she hadn't even started shaking. Seriously, she
Speaker 1: made it look easy. Planks are hard. What did you
Speaker 1: do for the plank? Did you get to two?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I can just get to two. You just start shaking
Speaker 1: and everything shutting down. It was my arm more than
Speaker 1: my actual abs.
Speaker 2: But I can't get over how many people are talking
Speaker 2: about it excellent. Well that's not just people who are
Speaker 2: it so there you go.
Speaker 1: Wow, there's plenty of talk to get through today. Of course,
Speaker 1: the regular season is done and dusted. Two rounds down,
Speaker 1: we head to Finals Netball, where we see the Pulse
Speaker 1: take on the Tactics in christ Church. And one player
Speaker 1: who will be playing in that Pulse team who are
Speaker 1: taking on the Tactics is midcarter Maddy Gordon, and she
Speaker 1: joins us now Inside May welcome to Inside Netball. Great
Speaker 1: to have you here. Hey, Now, it's been a tough
Speaker 1: old year for the Pulse, but you've scraped into that
Speaker 1: elimination final. How's the team feeling as you build up
Speaker 1: to that game against the Tactics this weekend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: I think, as everyone has seen, it's been a bit
Speaker 3: of a up and down season for us. One games
Speaker 3: that probably some people didn't think we were and then
Speaker 3: lost games where we really.
Speaker 4: Should have won.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been tough, but I think the last
Speaker 3: couple of games that we've had we've.
Speaker 4: Really got a lot of confidence going into this game
Speaker 4: against the Tactics.
Speaker 1: Oh, Genny's pointing at me. I thought she was gonna
Speaker 1: ask the question.
Speaker 2: I've just suddenly jumped to dargable here can I You're
Speaker 2: doing to get dark over?
Speaker 1: So I'm actually going to jump to the wing attack
Speaker 1: position then, because I feel like that is a segue,
Speaker 1: because I actually did. I think I was commentating the
Speaker 1: first game when you played wing attack because Whitney was
Speaker 1: out and I did sing your praises, I'd just like
Speaker 1: to say, what do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Way?
Speaker 1: I loved you there, Like how much is it a
Speaker 1: change from center because you look just very much at home.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've had a lot of questions about this. Actually, well,
Speaker 3: I have been loving it. Let's just say that I
Speaker 3: posid center, but I have been.
Speaker 4: Really enjoying it.
Speaker 3: I think it really brings out my strengths, as in
Speaker 3: you can really see my change of direction and my
Speaker 3: speed and all of that stuff a lot better than
Speaker 3: Center because I guess wing attack you're the leader of
Speaker 3: that attacking in ball in hand like kind of center
Speaker 3: fills what you're doing kind of thing. So I feel
Speaker 3: like that's really worked for me. But again I still
Speaker 3: love Center, but just for me this year, I yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like it's really it worked in my favor.
Speaker 4: I guess to showing everyone what I can do.
Speaker 1: So your knee hasn't because obviously you're still got quite
Speaker 1: a heavily strap knee. It doesn't seem to bother you.
Speaker 1: You are changing direction beautifully. So is that just precautionary?
Speaker 3: Yes, So there's a little bit of strapping at the front,
Speaker 3: which I'll probably have for a while. That's like the
Speaker 3: main injury, but the big white tape that makes it
Speaker 3: all look a bit scary. I just did a little
Speaker 3: bit of a hyper extension in the Tactics game down
Speaker 3: in christ Church, and it's literally just there to stop
Speaker 3: me hyper extending it again. It's not like I did
Speaker 3: any major damage with it. It's just literally precautionary. I have
Speaker 3: asked if I did need it, and they were like, hey,
Speaker 3: a couple of games left, it's not gonna hurt.
Speaker 4: Let's just give it on. But it's not going to
Speaker 4: be staying around for long. Tell you that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just need a bit of tape for your head,
Speaker 1: just to know that, you know you're protecting art. I
Speaker 1: rememb when I did my ic ACL when I came back,
Speaker 1: I taked it for like months afterwards, and p I
Speaker 1: said to me, you know this is doing nothing. I said,
Speaker 1: I don't care. It just feels good. And they just
Speaker 1: need to get skin colored tape though, Like I think
Speaker 1: you're right. It's all white. It's just so in your face.
Speaker 3: But it looks like it's some major kind of injury.
Speaker 3: But you know, probably half of the reason it's there too,
Speaker 3: which I'll admit, is the taping really ruins my tan,
Speaker 3: so I like, you need to get.
Speaker 2: The tan while the takes on and just you know,
Speaker 2: take So, while we're on the subject of talking about
Speaker 2: changing positions, how much has that an effect had on
Speaker 2: you know, the up and down nature of the season.
Speaker 2: You've had you know, people with concussion, you've had people ill,
Speaker 2: it's you, I don't I don't know that how many
Speaker 2: games have been with the with the same lineup. Has
Speaker 2: that had a big effect.
Speaker 3: I think it definitely has had an effect, But I
Speaker 3: also think we can't really like blame that and have
Speaker 3: excuses for it, because if you look at who's in
Speaker 3: our team, like, we definitely have amazing players in all
Speaker 3: areas where they can fit in and play well. So
Speaker 3: I guess the disruption of not being able to grow
Speaker 3: in those combos for long has probably affected it. But
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's not that we have the people
Speaker 3: that can do it.
Speaker 1: How frustrating has it been because you know you're lose
Speaker 1: to the steel one week, then the following week you
Speaker 1: know you win your game, and as a team, how
Speaker 1: do you pick yourself up? And try and debrief those
Speaker 1: performances that have over the course of the year been
Speaker 1: so inconsistent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it definitely has been frustrating, but we've never
Speaker 3: I guess we've always had the belief and confidence in
Speaker 3: ourselves to know that we can do it. And I
Speaker 3: think I think we all know when we're all on,
Speaker 3: we're quite unstoppable. And I think that's just the key
Speaker 3: is how do we get the best out of everyone
Speaker 3: that we're all performing at the same time rather than
Speaker 3: just a few people. So that's definitely like what we've
Speaker 3: been working on.
Speaker 1: We've spoke a lot about the two point shot this
Speaker 1: year and different innovations. Is it starting to sort of
Speaker 1: settle in for you now? I mean it worked bloody
Speaker 1: well in the weekend. I'm a huggy best two points around.
Speaker 1: It's her reaction, right, How good is it that she
Speaker 1: responds the way she does?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's so funny, But like I always I
Speaker 3: actually said to her because I was actually screaming behind it,
Speaker 3: we only need one so funny, But hey, she shot
Speaker 3: it and now like she got it in, so I
Speaker 3: can't say anything, but I'm sure there would have been
Speaker 3: different conversations yes, when.
Speaker 1: You say that, you know, I was actually quite nervous
Speaker 1: because not because I didn't think she could get it in,
Speaker 1: but if you guys had gone into extra time and
Speaker 1: then lost by more than five, you would have been
Speaker 1: in trouble. So in some ways I was like, lose
Speaker 1: by one, just lose by one because they actually was safer.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: Definitely, our scenarios throughout the whole week was we are
Speaker 3: not drawing this game.
Speaker 1: Right, So we had talked about it.
Speaker 3: Oh, we had talked about it all week. It was
Speaker 3: a big focus for us, and the main message was
Speaker 3: we are not drawing because if we get into this
Speaker 3: extra time and something happens and it blows out, we're screwed.
Speaker 3: So that's why obviously I was yelling take for what,
Speaker 3: like you know, but hey, she is a confidence player
Speaker 3: and she must have known that she could like because
Speaker 3: she's quite good at her decision making when to go
Speaker 3: for the twos and when to not, So she just
Speaker 3: must have known deep down and that I've got this,
Speaker 3: I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: And she did that Grand Final that you guys played
Speaker 2: last year. I still think it was one of the
Speaker 2: best we've had. It was so exciting and you, Yes,
Speaker 2: you lost, but do you ever do you ever go
Speaker 2: back and think about that game or use that game
Speaker 2: as a you know, incentive to do better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely always talk about that game and how
Speaker 3: I guess how fitting say, if you know, we just
Speaker 3: want to play kind of the mystics again, had read
Speaker 3: demail sales. We obviously we've got a game before that
Speaker 3: to do, but no, it's always in the back of
Speaker 3: our minds, just knowing that, you know, pretty much we
Speaker 3: had we had that game, and I guess we've.
Speaker 4: Worked on those moments.
Speaker 3: I guess you saw earlier in the season against the
Speaker 3: steel when we were close and we lost in those
Speaker 3: last couple of minutes. But then we've had a couple
Speaker 3: of games on from that, like a tight game with
Speaker 3: the Stars and we pulled it out in the last quarter,
Speaker 3: and then that tight game against the Magic and we
Speaker 3: like pulled it out in that last quarter. So I
Speaker 3: feel like we've definitely learnt on how to like win
Speaker 3: in those last minutes, I guess.
Speaker 4: So that's definitely helped.
Speaker 1: So if you've learned how to win, You've got the
Speaker 1: elimination final this weekend against the Tactics. Where do you
Speaker 1: think you can expose them. You've beaten them this year,
Speaker 1: you've lost to them this year. Where's yours? Where do
Speaker 1: your strengths lie as a team?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think disconnecting TP is quite key for us.
Speaker 3: She plays that extra you know, third feeder, and she
Speaker 3: does it, has a big workload down there, so I
Speaker 3: definitely think she's a target for us. And then just
Speaker 3: also their d end, Like they love working together and
Speaker 3: that's what they're good at. So it's just you know,
Speaker 3: not letting them do that, separating them and yeah, hopefully
Speaker 3: those two main things should work.
Speaker 1: Only got a big game coming up. There's there's still
Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty in the netball environment about what
Speaker 1: the hell is happening next year? I mean how much
Speaker 1: is that unsettling or is it something you've just put
Speaker 1: to the back of your mind? I mean, have would
Speaker 1: you either be tempted to go to Australia? You know,
Speaker 1: so many questions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Steph like I don't think like it's not
Speaker 3: really out there, like how uncertain it is, and it
Speaker 3: actually is like there, I know there are a lot
Speaker 3: of girls who are freaking out, So I think it's
Speaker 3: hard to say that we do try and just put
Speaker 3: it to the back of our minds because it is
Speaker 3: our career and you know, everyone loves the game, So no,
Speaker 3: it's definitely there. Obviously not enough to fully be like, no,
Speaker 3: this is too much, I can't focus on my playing.
Speaker 3: But I guess then just going out there and giving
Speaker 3: it everything because you just don't really know what's going
Speaker 3: to happen next year, right, But yeah, we'll see how
Speaker 3: this exemption process goes and all of that as well.
Speaker 4: I would never say.
Speaker 2: No, what if they told you have they have they
Speaker 2: told you anything?
Speaker 3: I think they're just still working through it. That's pretty much.
Speaker 3: There's really, yeah, nothing more from that. They're still trying
Speaker 3: to work it out.
Speaker 1: So because what do you what are you doing other
Speaker 1: than nitbull yourself currently? Are you studying? Your working? So
Speaker 1: you really need this deal to go through.
Speaker 3: Yes, I obviously have little things on the side, but
Speaker 3: obviously I'm I am that player who loves the game
Speaker 3: and gives it all and like, I am so focused
Speaker 3: and want to be one of the best in the future.
Speaker 3: So I think I give all my time and if
Speaker 3: it internet, well, I know that's probably not the best
Speaker 3: thing to do, but that's just who I am, but
Speaker 3: what I do do with things on the side, Like
Speaker 3: I did the Nitty Notes book with Kate Heffernan that
Speaker 3: came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did they go?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, Actually, so the first year it came out,
Speaker 3: it was a bit slow, and then we all kind
Speaker 3: of worked out how to like promote it better on
Speaker 3: like social media and stuff, and then I think we've
Speaker 3: only got like less than one hundred left, so it's
Speaker 3: actually done.
Speaker 4: Quite well in the end.
Speaker 3: And then I do a bit of like social media,
Speaker 3: like I do a couple of things on there which
Speaker 3: I get. I've got like a cool thing going with
Speaker 3: nutral grain and stuff, so like I do have like
Speaker 3: little things on the side. I definitely it is something
Speaker 3: I'm really like working on as finding what I absolutely
Speaker 3: love outside of netball, and I think that's a big
Speaker 3: thing to find out. But I'm just one of those
Speaker 3: ones who's not quite sure yet. But I'm definitely not
Speaker 3: doing nothing. I'm just still trying to work out what
Speaker 3: I really really want to do.
Speaker 1: That's okay, a lot of us are still working out
Speaker 1: what we want to do. What we want to do.
Speaker 1: Given nipples such a big part of your life, who's
Speaker 1: been your biggest inspiration when it comes to netball, who
Speaker 1: have you admired?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 1: Irene Van Dyke doing four minute playing game on ye
Speaker 1: start right.
Speaker 3: Well, I'd better be doing a four minute planet at
Speaker 3: age two two minutes. No, there's a lot, I even Oh,
Speaker 3: there is honestly so many. I think I can't really
Speaker 3: go past. I don't know, like Amelia Ran, Like obviously
Speaker 3: I've been in a team with her and just everything
Speaker 3: she's gone through, Like I was in that team with
Speaker 3: the Pulse when she went through like her mental health
Speaker 3: kind of phase, and like I was quite close to
Speaker 3: her at that point, so that was like it was
Speaker 3: hard to see her go through that. But how she's
Speaker 3: come out of it, how she's had kids, how she
Speaker 3: just leads in general, Like I think she is such
Speaker 3: an inspiration.
Speaker 2: And I think, what is it about that leadership?
Speaker 4: She just.
Speaker 3: She just cares so much about you, like as a
Speaker 3: and she just wants the best for you, which I
Speaker 3: love about her. It's not all like all about like
Speaker 3: her I guess if that makes sense. She cares about
Speaker 3: one that's along the ride with her, which I think
Speaker 3: is so important.
Speaker 1: You've played twenty five test cats for the silver ferns.
Speaker 1: I think that number is correct. What's your ambitions in
Speaker 1: the black dress? I mean, what would it mean for
Speaker 1: you to get to go to a Komwaff games and
Speaker 1: win and win a medal? In particular goals.
Speaker 4: That's definitely on.
Speaker 3: We've had like one plan things and it's like, what
Speaker 3: are your goals over the next couple of years and
Speaker 3: mine is yeah, definitely, like I haven't been to a
Speaker 3: Common Games yet, so that's definitely one to win a medal.
Speaker 4: Obviously, I went to a World Cup and.
Speaker 3: We've did meddle, so that's definitely another thing, Like, there
Speaker 3: is so much I want to be, like, I want
Speaker 3: to be like the starting wall, center or whatever position,
Speaker 3: but I just want to really own like and be
Speaker 3: like a solid performer in that environment.
Speaker 1: Yes, well I reckon you could be a solid performer
Speaker 1: in both midies. So just keep that one attack one
Speaker 1: up your sleeve, because it's always good to have the two. Hey,
Speaker 1: we wish you all the best for the game this
Speaker 1: weekend and of course silver fan selections coming up later on.
Speaker 1: But we do finish our little segment with a quick
Speaker 1: fire fast five section.
Speaker 4: He didn't get dargable.
Speaker 2: I know, well, I didn't know what to do, and
Speaker 2: I thought, I can't bring dargle. Can't darga?
Speaker 1: Maybe we could eat it.
Speaker 2: But at the start about dar Okay, well I wonder
Speaker 2: if it would work.
Speaker 1: Who knows, that's what those fiery tech people. Yes, people, Well.
Speaker 2: I can ask you now, do you miss Dargle?
Speaker 4: No, it's a quick fire question.
Speaker 1: You have. That was the sixth questions.
Speaker 3: This is so like obviously I'm from Fanaday and I
Speaker 3: would go to Dargonball a lot for swimming, and my
Speaker 3: grandma lived there. Like there is just like one thing,
Speaker 3: no cafes, Like I'm telling you no, really.
Speaker 2: Not even what about blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: You're gonna say the only one they blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: How are you Northlanders?
Speaker 3: All the other things are like bakery cafes.
Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I do know what you mean.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's a business opportunity for you. You're looking at
Speaker 1: what you want to do making slices and coffee and
Speaker 1: dog ball funny okay, inside fast five. So the first
Speaker 1: one is if you could play any other sport, what
Speaker 1: sport would it be other than that ball?
Speaker 4: Controversial cricket?
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't see that coming cricket cricket if you
Speaker 2: can as a female in New Zealand, cricket.
Speaker 1: Is where you? Is that why you would choose that one?
Speaker 4: I honestly love watching it.
Speaker 3: I am Yeah.
Speaker 2: Did you play when you were young?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I like obviously in school and stuff like yes, but
Speaker 3: never likely. And I'm actually really gutted I didn't because
Speaker 3: here I am saying, yeah, I want to play, greg.
Speaker 3: I don't even know them any good but I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's just I love watching it. I go to most
Speaker 3: games I can. I'm always watching it on.
Speaker 4: TV and it's just something I really love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I just would like to do it as well.
Speaker 2: The others in your family? Have you grown up watching cricket?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well my dad loves it, he used to play,
Speaker 3: My brother plays, like all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: This is a good start. We've got a different apper answer, Ezerland. Okay,
Speaker 1: who and your team is most likely to get you
Speaker 1: into trouble and get you out of trouble?
Speaker 4: Oh easy? As in trouble Paris Mason and.
Speaker 1: We head heir on did she say? Did she say herself? Probably?
Speaker 3: And then to keep me out of trouble, My good
Speaker 3: old trusty friend Kelly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she did say Kelly.
Speaker 2: Now, what's your favorite go to post game snack or meal?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Great question?
Speaker 3: Post game? Probably like well, I really enjoy after our
Speaker 3: post games we get like a burger and some chips,
Speaker 3: which is nice, or I wouldn't mind a good pizza.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm quite good. I'm one of that.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people find it hard to
Speaker 3: eat after games, but high and starving.
Speaker 1: So they're running around. Because you're a MIDI we do
Speaker 1: all the work, Eddie.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you could take three athletes to dinner, past or present,
Speaker 1: so dead or alive, who would those three athletes be?
Speaker 4: Oh, that's so harsh.
Speaker 1: Athletes three athletes, I think, all around the world, not
Speaker 1: just any sport, any sport, any sport.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Probably like you'd have to take someone
Speaker 3: like like Lebron James or something on the app. Cool,
Speaker 3: that's quite intriguing to me. Um, who's another story I noticed?
Speaker 1: Is here a cricketer? Yeah, no, that's what.
Speaker 4: I'm actually trying to think of.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what about Chris Gale?
Speaker 3: Actually that is a great one, is pretty amazing, Thank
Speaker 3: you very much. I was actually trying to think of
Speaker 3: a cricketer who I can put on there. Yep, let's
Speaker 3: go with him and.
Speaker 4: Anyone, anyone, anyone.
Speaker 3: Maybe even like I don't know, like a Lisa Carrington.
Speaker 3: You know, she's the government gun, so I'd love to
Speaker 3: pick her brown.
Speaker 1: Her arms are insane. The best piece of advice you
Speaker 1: have ever been given.
Speaker 4: Oh honestly, it's so simple. But just to be yourself
Speaker 4: and have fun. Like I think that's just so key.
Speaker 1: Oh that's pretty good advice. If you live your life
Speaker 1: like that, you'll be doing well. Maddie so Hey, thanks
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. We wish you all the
Speaker 1: very best this weekend.
Speaker 4: What's thank you inside?
Speaker 1: It well great to hear from Anny there. She's obviously
Speaker 1: a real netballer, isn't she. She loves her netball. She
Speaker 1: throws everything into netball and we talk about these days
Speaker 1: that you know, balance is really important. She hasn't found
Speaker 1: that balance yet. And you know what, that's okay because
Speaker 1: her netball's pretty good. Absolutely, and you know if that's
Speaker 1: and I think she she was harsh on herself because
Speaker 1: she is doing other stuff. You know, she's not you know,
Speaker 1: doing a traditional degree or a job. She has got
Speaker 1: a career path. That's what she was saying. The fact
Speaker 1: that she's busy. And I love the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: this whole influence a thing that completely confuses me, but
Speaker 1: you know, she's doing those sorts of things. She's finding
Speaker 1: ways to get a following and make money.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I like the fact too that you know cricket.
Speaker 2: It was the you know, the suggestion that she might
Speaker 2: like to be She's.
Speaker 1: Never played it.
Speaker 2: No, she did at school, didn't She's that I think
Speaker 2: she might have, but not a lot. But she's watched
Speaker 2: a lot with her dad, so you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, very impressive. Okay, so the round has finished
Speaker 1: the ladder, we look at the ladder. It ended up
Speaker 1: being Mystics, Tactics, Pulse, and then the bottom three Steel
Speaker 1: Magic Stars. So let's wrap the season for the Steel
Speaker 1: Stars in Magic. Because none of us actually chose that
Speaker 1: top three to No. Well, Jenny picked the Mistics, we
Speaker 1: didn't pick the mistakes a dean.
Speaker 2: But I picked the Magic to win, and it was
Speaker 2: fairly evident early on that they they I don't know
Speaker 2: what happened to the Magic actually, because they were building building,
Speaker 2: building very nicely at the end of last season. Yes,
Speaker 2: not this, No, no, no, and then but even this.
Speaker 1: Season, halfway through these podcasts, we had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: make a change and take Magic out and we still
Speaker 1: didn't copy. Aren't we? God backed them, didn't we? We
Speaker 1: thought that save you to we Emelia Andi Canasio combination
Speaker 1: was going to get us here. It didn't. Let's start
Speaker 1: with the Steel. We'll go start from fourth position down
Speaker 1: to Saxon. So the Steel finished last last year, they
Speaker 1: got the wooden Spoon. They moved up two places, finished fourth.
Speaker 1: If we perhaps look at something positive to have come
Speaker 1: out of that side and maybe somewhere along the way
Speaker 1: where they didn't go so well. Highlight for me, without
Speaker 1: a doubt, is the resurrection of kar Stythe or perhaps
Speaker 1: just the performances that she's put out. I think she's
Speaker 1: showed up every week in that goalkeep position. She's made
Speaker 1: it her own. Obviously coming from the mystics, we she
Speaker 1: didn't get much caught time, and she has really consolidated
Speaker 1: that position and she's in the fight for silver ferns.
Speaker 1: So for me, stife and then the Steel beating the
Speaker 1: Pulse by one this year. I thought that was pretty.
Speaker 2: Cool for me. I thought the coaches they were a
Speaker 2: real successful. In fact, I've enjoyed all the coaches this year,
Speaker 2: and you sort of what I found myself waiting for
Speaker 2: was look really looking forward to a time out because
Speaker 2: I was thinking, what is Wendy Freu going to say
Speaker 2: this time? And I also enjoyed any home game and
Speaker 2: it was like when's for mayor, which I thought was
Speaker 2: kind of cooled.
Speaker 1: She is the queen of Southland.
Speaker 2: She is the Queen of Southland.
Speaker 1: There, I'm with you, Jena. I thought she was brilliant.
Speaker 1: Her and Leana Liota. I just think exactly to your point,
Speaker 1: just hearing what they had to say, how specific they were.
Speaker 1: And for me, you know, she's Robbie Broughton, you know,
Speaker 1: that's where she's learned. She Robbie was her coach when
Speaker 1: she was at school. Robbie was her coach when she
Speaker 1: played for the Steel. And you can just see that,
Speaker 1: you know, the little sentimentalness comes out for me, you
Speaker 1: can you can see it, you can hear. I mean
Speaker 1: you see it in Don's actually as well. So I
Speaker 1: thought that was awesome. I actually thought both the Heafenan's
Speaker 1: were also very good. I thought Georgia at times was great.
Speaker 1: Other time maybe a bit quieter, but great to see
Speaker 1: another goal attack, stick her hand up and be an
Speaker 1: option in the silver fern environment and Kate. Great that
Speaker 1: Kate's back and she's getting back to her best because
Speaker 1: we know what she can do in that black dress.
Speaker 1: Do we want to do low lights with each team
Speaker 1: or not? For me, it was just disappointing that they
Speaker 1: beat the mistakes. They got within one of the mystics
Speaker 1: in Dunedin and they got within four, so for me
Speaker 1: that was just that would be for them, really disappointed
Speaker 1: that they didn't finish those games.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think we should do a low light
Speaker 2: to steal because yeah, I still I mean Alia done.
Speaker 2: You could case to answer or case to put up
Speaker 2: for all. It's just about every player actually, so I
Speaker 2: think you can argue they've come on from that.
Speaker 1: It does show. It shows when you don't have a shooter,
Speaker 1: which they lost their shooters at the start of two
Speaker 1: seasons in a row, and then you finally do have
Speaker 1: a shooter and Alia Dunn, who played well you know
Speaker 1: as much as any we love our mid corners. Shooters
Speaker 1: make a big difference.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, that's why they're there.
Speaker 1: And when you think about it, that team They had
Speaker 1: the most changes in any other team at the start
Speaker 1: of the season, six changes. They had two new coaches,
Speaker 1: so they did pretty well to get fourth, so they
Speaker 1: can only get better next year. Okay, moving up to
Speaker 1: the Magic, they finished in fifth position. Low light for
Speaker 1: me for them is just as you said, Jen, we
Speaker 1: just didn't see that continuity from last year. We all
Speaker 1: thought that's why we had them in the top three.
Speaker 1: They were going to push on. They had the potential
Speaker 1: and a little bit for me, I just don't think
Speaker 1: Echinaccio was at her best this season for the Magic,
Speaker 1: So for me, that was just a little bit disappointing.
Speaker 1: She did have the most accurate two point shots at
Speaker 1: fifty eight percent. She was actually the only player that
Speaker 1: got over fifty percent with her two pointers. I would
Speaker 1: have liked to have seen more from her.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree with that. Interesting though, wasn't it,
Speaker 2: because you know, I think that they had the least fewest.
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I can't think who it was, and so
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, it's good, it's good, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: so hard to know. And you know, Georgia Tong. Wish
Speaker 2: her well in her retirement, but it will be fascinating
Speaker 2: to see what they do next year.
Speaker 1: They're going to need more defensive firepower. I don't think
Speaker 1: they picked up enough ball attacking wise, Yes, there was
Speaker 1: some brilliant place save you two. I think MVP virtually
Speaker 1: every single game because of that beautiful smile and the
Speaker 1: way she takes that ball. But if they do really
Speaker 1: want to compete and get into that top three, I
Speaker 1: wonder if they need to look further afield for a
Speaker 1: defensive player that's really going to come up for ball.
Speaker 1: In saying that the one player I thought that came
Speaker 1: up with a huge mable George Edgecombe. I thought she
Speaker 1: was outstanding at when defense and deserves a silver FIRN Trial.
Speaker 1: Well I've got her as my highlight of the Magic
Speaker 1: is the rise of Georgia edgekamb in fact and saying
Speaker 1: defensive games, Erin and Makatyk picked up a lot of
Speaker 1: ball in the game just gone when they push the pulse.
Speaker 1: But as you say, she will need someone in that
Speaker 1: goal circle with her. Or how long has Erin and McCarty.
Speaker 2: Gone, Well, that's a very good question.
Speaker 1: She might not be there as well. So I think
Speaker 1: for all of us Magic, we had you in our
Speaker 1: top three. All three of us. Your rascals made us
Speaker 1: look Sully okay. And then the Stars. Boy, well, they've
Speaker 1: had a tough old season. I think it's probably fair
Speaker 1: to say the injury woes. I did that game with you. No,
Speaker 1: I did that game. I were watching, we were in
Speaker 1: the crowd. I mean, it's never nice to see any
Speaker 1: plague off the court. They had three from the same
Speaker 1: team in a wheelchair, all get rolled off the court.
Speaker 1: So disappointing. But as I said in commentary the other night,
Speaker 1: you know, they would have had a huge amount of
Speaker 1: growth for Bubby in her first season. What she would
Speaker 1: have learned as a coach. She would have had to
Speaker 1: have dug deep within herself to problem solve, to deal
Speaker 1: with adversity and resilience, and she can only grow from that.
Speaker 1: So I'm hopeful for what Bubby can do with that franchise.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I feel the same also too. You know,
Speaker 2: losing Monica Faulkner that way through the season there to
Speaker 2: ACLS and you just think, oh jeep, so oh boy.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder if as a player, you'd be
Speaker 2: willing Timmy param not to call you and you know,
Speaker 2: see if you want to play. But no, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: there's nothing she can say.
Speaker 1: We just hope that Timmy Putter is about to go
Speaker 1: on holiday because she certainly deserves it, and because you
Speaker 1: will be drained as a coach at the end of
Speaker 1: the season. And when we spoke to Timmy Putter, you know,
Speaker 1: she spoke about you know, you go over everything at
Speaker 1: night and your brain about could I have done this?
Speaker 1: What should I have done differently? And that would have
Speaker 1: she would have lost a lot of sleep this season.
Speaker 1: So I really do hope she has a big holiday.
Speaker 1: As to your point earlier, Gen, I think all those
Speaker 1: new coaches, you saw how spectacular they can be, and
Speaker 1: they all would have learned a lot this season. What
Speaker 1: will be interesting? Do they bring Charlie Bell back? Did
Speaker 1: Remy Carmo do enough to lead? I think I don't
Speaker 1: think Bubby. Did she select them?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that she did. I think this
Speaker 2: next team.
Speaker 4: Here will be hers.
Speaker 1: So we'll be interestelling will she bring both of those
Speaker 1: two players? About who will she bring back? Who knows?
Speaker 1: As we heard Maddie say, no one knows a lot
Speaker 1: just yet, so a lot that I think a lot's
Speaker 1: gonna happened in the next month, And well, they'll need
Speaker 1: Kate Burley to come back. She's obviously recovering from Planta
Speaker 1: Fasher and yet sort of forget, you know, the players
Speaker 1: that have remained like merely really Buchanan, Wilson, really Buchanan's
Speaker 1: coming back with her own injury. She's not at her
Speaker 1: best yet, so she's still recovering from her acroikin. Takes
Speaker 1: a good twelve months until you're back at your best.
Speaker 1: I saw Griers and Claire who she was ACR as
Speaker 1: well at the game, the Mystics Technics game in the weekend. Amazing,
Speaker 1: she had surgery, she's had surgery, and she was she
Speaker 1: was walking so well, and I do feel like you
Speaker 1: get the sense, I don't know who well, but you
Speaker 1: feel like she's going to be that person that will
Speaker 1: do everything to get back on there. She was walking
Speaker 1: very fit that first game when she did it, and
Speaker 1: I felt so sorry for her because she looked like
Speaker 1: she'd done the work in the off season and that
Speaker 1: will be helping her recovery. To write the fact that
Speaker 1: she started at such a good but really heartwarming to
Speaker 1: see that her recovery is started in a really good place.
Speaker 1: We talk about lost with the Stars side I think
Speaker 1: we have to mention that, you know, Bubby being the coach,
Speaker 1: her assistant Leana Debrain, has suffered huge devastation as well.
Speaker 1: This year she lost her brother and then a month
Speaker 1: later she loses her mother. So you know, Bubby's been
Speaker 1: dealing with coaching this team, supporting her mate who's dealt
Speaker 1: with a huge amount of loss. But I think perhaps
Speaker 1: that may have put perspective in a lot of people's
Speaker 1: lives in the team that you know, yes, Snipple's a
Speaker 1: big part of your life and it's the game you play,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, gosh, it's family
Speaker 1: that matters. So you know they've dealt with a lot. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: that wraps the last three teams. Let's look forward to
Speaker 1: one of the finals that is coming up, the elimination
Speaker 1: Final Tactics over the Pulse. They've played each other twice
Speaker 1: this year. In round six it went the way of
Speaker 1: the Tactics sixty one fifty two. Rounds ago, round eight
Speaker 1: it was fifty nine fifty to the Pulse. So we've
Speaker 1: heard from Maddie their Pulse have been up and down
Speaker 1: as the Tactics have just been having lost to the
Speaker 1: Mystics in the last round, where is it going to
Speaker 1: be won or lost? Jenny, How significant is to pass
Speaker 1: Salby Reckitt going to be for the Tactics.
Speaker 2: Well, I think if the Pulse can manage to isolate her,
Speaker 2: as Maddie was suggesting they might, that could be the answer.
Speaker 2: But I just am still trying to unpick that game
Speaker 2: the other day, between the Tactics and the Mystics. I
Speaker 2: didn't for a moment think that it would be that
Speaker 2: one sided. And I still can't quite believe that, you know,
Speaker 2: that was the result. But wow, it looked to me
Speaker 2: like Berger and Watson just had no answer for Danelle Wallam.
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about how many times they would
Speaker 2: have played her, and I'm thinking take away the preseason,
Speaker 2: I don't know that they would have.
Speaker 1: I think Donna mentioned just once in pre season she said, yeah,
Speaker 1: So what I found really surprising in that game was
Speaker 1: Walem you know, they would just going one on one
Speaker 1: against Wallam, I know, and they were, you know, Jane
Speaker 1: was getting smoked, like Wallam was doing an outstanding job
Speaker 1: of holding her angles, holding high, doing all those things
Speaker 1: you want a goal shoot to do. And I found
Speaker 1: it fascinating that Burger continued to stay on Viillie because
Speaker 1: Voi wasn't shooting. She didn't shoot many. If I look back,
Speaker 1: Vuie only shot. Where is she? You know she shot
Speaker 1: a few in the end, but she wasn't really a
Speaker 1: threat and she doesn't do much outside the circle. Vote
Speaker 1: So Burger, get in the circle, go two on Wallom.
Speaker 1: I agree, and I wonder if that's the sort of
Speaker 1: thing the Pulse will learn from watching those sorts of games,
Speaker 1: because obviously it's a it's They've got Walmsley Warmsey, same thing.
Speaker 1: She's been taking that high ball really well? Do you
Speaker 1: double mark Warmsly? Tiana has not been shooting. She hangs
Speaker 1: around outside the shooting circle. And if you're hanging out there,
Speaker 1: you can't shoot, you're not a shooting threat. So to
Speaker 1: those yeah agree. Maturno's volume last week in thirty six
Speaker 1: minutes of netbulls, she shot three goals. Now Wormsley shot
Speaker 1: forty three out of forty three last week one hundred
Speaker 1: percent game the week before forty six from forty one nine.
Speaker 1: So Matuto and Massalla generally are averaging Matudo three from four,
Speaker 1: Mali Salah was eight from ten. You look at that
Speaker 1: and I agree, you'd go why would you put you'd
Speaker 1: put two defenders back on Wormsley double team here, because
Speaker 1: you could probably you know, get it, get into Warmsley
Speaker 1: and keep them, keep Matudo and Mali Sella on their own,
Speaker 1: just pick them up as they come on. And you
Speaker 1: might not be tight both tight and warms You might
Speaker 1: have someone that's you know, hunting a little bit more
Speaker 1: but still close to that circle so you can pick
Speaker 1: up that that lob will come sprinting through for the
Speaker 1: lob take that back space. But yeah, I did find
Speaker 1: that quite intriguing in that Tactics game, and it was
Speaker 1: a little bit like and again, how much would the
Speaker 1: Pulse have learned that when when TP wasn't involved, That's
Speaker 1: when the Tactics really struggle. When they actually started catching
Speaker 1: back up again was when TP got in the circle
Speaker 1: and she started shooting. And then that actually they got
Speaker 1: on a bit of a momentuming the Tactics and I
Speaker 1: mean that school flattered them at the end. It was
Speaker 1: only what fourteen, but that was because TP, you know,
Speaker 1: shot about five two pointers in a row. But I
Speaker 1: actually think and they will have they would have done
Speaker 1: the analysis of that Tactics game, but I think that
Speaker 1: would have told them a lot about what potentially to
Speaker 1: do against the tactics, saying that we haven't seen a
Speaker 1: lot of defenders, you know, double team the goal shooters
Speaker 1: this year, so I will be fascinated to see if
Speaker 1: either team do that the tactics. The big question for
Speaker 1: Donner is who's she going to start bird or Salmon.
Speaker 1: I think I think i'd go bird. I'd start with
Speaker 1: the height in there. Who will she be up against? Yes?
Speaker 2: But that was interesting, wasn't it? Because TP with us?
Speaker 2: Didn't she say yes? What did she say? She said
Speaker 2: she preferred playing with well, implied she preferred playing with salmon.
Speaker 1: Did she she looked more comfortable with salmon in the
Speaker 1: second half? I thought, yeah, Salmon moves well, but I
Speaker 1: just think they can They can see bird a bit.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: The bird has an extra I looked it up. She's
Speaker 2: a lot taller, Yes, three sent meters taller.
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. I would start with a bird,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't muck around bringing salmon on if it
Speaker 1: wasn't if it wasn't working. And that's that's the pressure
Speaker 1: of these finals, right The coaches, they've got to make
Speaker 1: their decisions pretty quickly before the gap gets too big.
Speaker 1: Of course we've We've talked to Maddie. We've seen her
Speaker 1: swing into that wing attack position. That's been great. Simpson
Speaker 1: at Gold Defense, she did well there in the in
Speaker 1: the weekend.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's funny, isn't it, Because you think of Gaby
Speaker 2: Simpson and you don't think a tall player.
Speaker 1: You think she was always a hustler, real Aussie wing
Speaker 1: defense that got in the area. So what are we
Speaker 1: going for this one? Who's who's going Tactics, Who's going Pole?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to put my with a queen of yes,
Speaker 2: of hopeless choicing. I think the Poles will take it,
Speaker 2: and I think we'll come through and we'll have another
Speaker 2: repeat of last year's.
Speaker 1: Grand Final Pols Mystics. I'm going to go Tactics just
Speaker 1: purely because I'm a Kenab and they're playing at home,
Speaker 1: and I actually want the Tactics to win pulsive one
Speaker 1: at three times at someone else's turn, the Tactics mistics.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for that for the Grand Final. I literally
Speaker 1: do not know, you do not care. I don't actually
Speaker 1: play for neither team, don't have but it is to
Speaker 1: me I find it really hard to pick because of
Speaker 1: the inconsistency, and we've spoken about this all season. Hit
Speaker 1: on the line of Dean, We've just done it. I
Speaker 1: would then go Technics. They're at home, and I think
Speaker 1: that they have been getting really good crowds at home,
Speaker 1: and I think that will be you know, the eight flat.
Speaker 1: I know it's not supposed to influence umpires and things,
Speaker 1: but you know, subconsciously you wonder if it's a fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty call and the whole crowd screaming at you
Speaker 1: if you just slightly lean towards the red and black.
Speaker 1: So because of home advantage nothing else, I'm going to
Speaker 1: say Technics.
Speaker 2: But haven't the crowd's been great. I mean we've had
Speaker 2: sellout crowds out at Trusts. Yes, we haven't seen those
Speaker 2: for years, which is, you know, so fabulous.
Speaker 1: My mate came up from Blenham and wanted to go
Speaker 1: online and buy a ticket sold out, couldn't get one.
Speaker 1: I said, you should have just rocked up to Trust
Speaker 1: arena and I'm sure you would a snack in, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you couldn't get one.
Speaker 2: Well she probably couldn't have. Actually, anyway, we won't. We've
Speaker 2: just I've just got it. I really want this is
Speaker 2: so impressive. When I was reading about Amarani Melisella. She
Speaker 2: is going to be admitted to the bar in November,
Speaker 2: and I mean, I love the fact she's obviously just
Speaker 2: loves the drama. And she's also going to be admitted
Speaker 2: with her sister. Yeah, and they're going to be they're
Speaker 2: both fluent and terreo and someone and you just think
Speaker 2: Jeepers Netball has so many of these sort of people.
Speaker 1: And what I love about her too, she knows her role.
Speaker 1: You know, she's not sulking on the sideline because I
Speaker 1: want to start. You know, she knows her role, and
Speaker 1: her role has been to come on and have impact
Speaker 1: and come on normally in that last five minute, and
Speaker 1: she's embraced that. I mean that's pretty cool because as
Speaker 1: we all know, you want to start, that's normally the
Speaker 1: feeling you start from. But she gets that wider picture,
Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. Well, she secured it for them.
Speaker 1: She was the buzzer beater in that game on the
Speaker 1: weekend that secured the win to get them into that
Speaker 1: elimination final. So very impressive. Before we go, SECN are
Speaker 1: finishing up gen.
Speaker 2: They are, they found their top four. All we're not
Speaker 2: all played but they've got the minor semi final and
Speaker 2: the Major semi final minus semi final on Saturday. That
Speaker 2: will be the Thunderbirds at home to the Victims. Now
Speaker 2: that's a sudden death. If you lose, you know you're off.
Speaker 2: But the big one Sunday at six is the Fever
Speaker 2: versus the Swift. Now that you you know, if you lose,
Speaker 2: you still have a life, and so the loser of
Speaker 2: that match will play the winner of the other. So
Speaker 2: that's slightly different systems.
Speaker 1: We do it like that, yes, we Why we changed
Speaker 1: because I think, you know, the Mystics aren't going to
Speaker 1: get a weekend off right straight through to the ground
Speaker 1: and final, and it's always a tough fun do you
Speaker 1: want to keep playing? I'm sure they will have a game,
Speaker 1: they'll probably play them main, but yeah, it's an interesting one.
Speaker 1: I think I prefer the way that the Ossies do it,
Speaker 1: and you have the Major Major, Minor and then then.
Speaker 2: So best of luck to the Swift. I sort of
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, Casey Corper has done her thing
Speaker 2: with the Giants, and I presume she's probably back.
Speaker 1: Home game on prepared her for that. Keep watching game
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Tuesday nights on TV three. I think it is.
Speaker 1: I think we should at the end say how good
Speaker 1: the Mystics were. By the way as well, because I
Speaker 1: feel like Mistis fans are going to be like, you
Speaker 1: didn't talk about the Mystics and they played really well,
Speaker 1: So shout out to the Mystics. They were very, very good.
Speaker 2: And didn't matter who went on the court, like when
Speaker 2: Holly Ray went on, I thought she was outstanding. Every
Speaker 2: every player.
Speaker 1: We will focus a lot on them next week because
Speaker 1: we will be previewing that Grand Final next week. Of course,
Speaker 1: it is the elimination final on Sunday between the Tactics
Speaker 1: and that seven forty kickoff, and then we will wrap
Speaker 1: that game and then preview the big one, the Grand Final.
Speaker 1: Look forward to having you back next week. Until then,
Speaker 1: martewa