1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from news Talks at b. 3 00:00:14,453 --> 00:00:34,693 Speaker 2: F School. 4 00:00:37,133 --> 00:00:40,533 Speaker 3: That song is called Forget Me Not. It's by Lave. 5 00:00:41,133 --> 00:00:43,413 Speaker 3: She's got a new album called A Matter of Time. 6 00:00:44,453 --> 00:00:48,733 Speaker 3: Interesting name given. It sort of feels like slightly timeless music, 7 00:00:48,773 --> 00:00:51,253 Speaker 3: a kind of hard to pin down. Stelle Clifford is 8 00:00:51,293 --> 00:00:53,333 Speaker 3: our music review. She's with us now, good morning. 9 00:00:54,053 --> 00:00:56,613 Speaker 4: Hello. Don't you just feel like you're watching some old 10 00:00:56,653 --> 00:01:01,173 Speaker 4: school nineteen fifties movie, yeah or something, or that's Cinderellerie 11 00:01:01,173 --> 00:01:03,813 Speaker 4: snow White thing where you're out in the forest and 12 00:01:03,853 --> 00:01:05,733 Speaker 4: the birds are floating around. 13 00:01:05,853 --> 00:01:09,613 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all beautiful. She's so clever. 14 00:01:09,733 --> 00:01:13,093 Speaker 4: I love this though, because there's this prettiness to it, right, 15 00:01:13,133 --> 00:01:15,933 Speaker 4: and there's these flourishes of the orchestra and the strings. 16 00:01:16,493 --> 00:01:19,213 Speaker 4: But actually some of what she writes, the lyrics can 17 00:01:19,213 --> 00:01:23,493 Speaker 4: actually be quite dark, and it makes me think Grim 18 00:01:23,533 --> 00:01:25,493 Speaker 4: Brother's kind of fairy tale. 19 00:01:25,133 --> 00:01:28,013 Speaker 3: For sure, like the old school ones before. 20 00:01:27,733 --> 00:01:29,893 Speaker 4: We go them nice endings. Yeah, yeah, so she's like that. 21 00:01:30,093 --> 00:01:32,813 Speaker 4: She's said in a recent interview. My songs of self 22 00:01:32,853 --> 00:01:36,053 Speaker 4: reflection on this album aren't very hopeful. They're actually quite cynical. 23 00:01:38,533 --> 00:01:41,093 Speaker 4: But it's not the whole tone, you know what I mean, 24 00:01:41,453 --> 00:01:45,093 Speaker 4: there's still brightness about it, and there's somewhere She's even 25 00:01:45,093 --> 00:01:47,213 Speaker 4: teased on her Instagram She's like, the only way to 26 00:01:47,253 --> 00:01:49,093 Speaker 4: get through this song is to skip down the road. 27 00:01:49,133 --> 00:01:52,093 Speaker 4: And it's quite joyful. And I think that's the energy 28 00:01:52,293 --> 00:01:55,373 Speaker 4: of the music that's behind her voice as well. That 29 00:01:55,453 --> 00:01:57,733 Speaker 4: song in particular, Forget Me Not. I just think that 30 00:01:57,853 --> 00:02:02,693 Speaker 4: really showcases the control in her voice. Someone who has 31 00:02:02,733 --> 00:02:08,013 Speaker 4: studied classical music and jazz music, there's just something so 32 00:02:09,173 --> 00:02:11,733 Speaker 4: magic about the way they use their voices and their 33 00:02:11,773 --> 00:02:16,453 Speaker 4: instruments too, Like just the controllery here and there on 34 00:02:16,613 --> 00:02:18,453 Speaker 4: like fire Out that just actually blows my mind a 35 00:02:18,493 --> 00:02:21,653 Speaker 4: little bit. Right from the side of the album, Like 36 00:02:21,693 --> 00:02:23,653 Speaker 4: I said, you're in that kind of snow whitey sort 37 00:02:23,653 --> 00:02:25,213 Speaker 4: of thing. But then every now and then a lyric 38 00:02:25,253 --> 00:02:28,133 Speaker 4: will drop. I like that she sometimes just drops into 39 00:02:28,133 --> 00:02:32,133 Speaker 4: her native tongue and you almost don't realize until you 40 00:02:32,253 --> 00:02:34,253 Speaker 4: really are listening to what's going on. And there's a 41 00:02:34,293 --> 00:02:37,453 Speaker 4: few swears that she's randomly peppered in, maybe near the 42 00:02:37,533 --> 00:02:38,933 Speaker 4: end of a song. It just really kind of makes 43 00:02:38,933 --> 00:02:39,493 Speaker 4: you go, wait, what. 44 00:02:40,693 --> 00:02:41,533 Speaker 2: You're talking about. 45 00:02:42,413 --> 00:02:45,573 Speaker 4: She worked with Aaron Desner on some of the songs 46 00:02:45,613 --> 00:02:49,813 Speaker 4: on this album, So think Tate. So she does have 47 00:02:50,533 --> 00:02:52,733 Speaker 4: she does have interest, and she does have musicality that 48 00:02:52,893 --> 00:02:54,933 Speaker 4: is pop and she wanted, I guess, to bring that 49 00:02:54,973 --> 00:02:57,613 Speaker 4: out a little bit more. And you hear that kind 50 00:02:57,613 --> 00:03:00,293 Speaker 4: of and the later songs of the album. There's quite 51 00:03:00,293 --> 00:03:01,973 Speaker 4: a few tracks on this, but I think someone more 52 00:03:01,973 --> 00:03:04,573 Speaker 4: of that pop vibe comes in that he's able to 53 00:03:04,613 --> 00:03:07,653 Speaker 4: bring to that, and she did that. She thinks he 54 00:03:07,653 --> 00:03:10,453 Speaker 4: helped her sort of get like a level of shine 55 00:03:10,573 --> 00:03:13,293 Speaker 4: and some speed and paste the music that she hasn't 56 00:03:13,333 --> 00:03:16,093 Speaker 4: necessarily always had or when you sit in that nineteen 57 00:03:16,133 --> 00:03:20,053 Speaker 4: fifties movie old school style, you can get quite swoony 58 00:03:20,093 --> 00:03:23,733 Speaker 4: and drifty and whimsical. But she wanted to bring it 59 00:03:23,893 --> 00:03:26,893 Speaker 4: some pace into some of the music that she's got. 60 00:03:26,933 --> 00:03:28,613 Speaker 4: So I think he actually does quite a good job 61 00:03:28,613 --> 00:03:30,413 Speaker 4: on it. I think it kind of means when you 62 00:03:30,493 --> 00:03:32,893 Speaker 4: hear some of the pop tracks, I mean, they're not 63 00:03:33,013 --> 00:03:35,853 Speaker 4: hugely too poppy, but they would be reminiscent I think 64 00:03:35,893 --> 00:03:39,253 Speaker 4: of Taylor Swift, and I think we've had someone like 65 00:03:39,813 --> 00:03:41,373 Speaker 4: Aaron work on that sort of thing. You know, that's 66 00:03:41,413 --> 00:03:43,573 Speaker 4: his style, right, So there's a little. You can kind 67 00:03:43,613 --> 00:03:45,733 Speaker 4: of once you've heard it a few times, I think 68 00:03:45,773 --> 00:03:47,933 Speaker 4: you can kind of pick out the tracks that he's 69 00:03:47,933 --> 00:03:50,653 Speaker 4: probably worked with her on. There's a great song on 70 00:03:50,693 --> 00:03:53,093 Speaker 4: the album called tough Luck, and there are some low 71 00:03:53,173 --> 00:03:55,653 Speaker 4: key burns that I am so here for, and the 72 00:03:55,733 --> 00:04:00,093 Speaker 4: lyrics on that outing a cheetah who didn't cheat on her, 73 00:04:00,213 --> 00:04:03,533 Speaker 4: but cheated on the girl before her. Look, it's just 74 00:04:03,573 --> 00:04:05,693 Speaker 4: a real story. We're like, w. 75 00:04:07,133 --> 00:04:07,693 Speaker 3: Give it to him. 76 00:04:07,733 --> 00:04:09,933 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah yeah. I love that she kind 77 00:04:09,933 --> 00:04:12,253 Speaker 4: of follows rules what musicality is, but not I mean, 78 00:04:12,253 --> 00:04:14,813 Speaker 4: if you're going to blend classical jazz and pop music, 79 00:04:15,733 --> 00:04:17,533 Speaker 4: it feels like you're throwing a whole lot up in 80 00:04:17,573 --> 00:04:19,893 Speaker 4: the air and sort of seeing where it lands. So 81 00:04:19,893 --> 00:04:22,413 Speaker 4: she says that she doesn't get too stuck in rules 82 00:04:22,493 --> 00:04:25,333 Speaker 4: of how music's supposed to be if it sounds and 83 00:04:25,373 --> 00:04:28,173 Speaker 4: feels right to her. Then with this album in particular, 84 00:04:28,213 --> 00:04:31,533 Speaker 4: she's had real confidence in saying this is what my 85 00:04:31,653 --> 00:04:33,453 Speaker 4: sound is and this is what I'm playing with. And 86 00:04:33,493 --> 00:04:36,733 Speaker 4: I actually really love that because, I mean, jazz is 87 00:04:36,733 --> 00:04:40,573 Speaker 4: a wonderful genre to be in. It makes you want 88 00:04:40,613 --> 00:04:43,973 Speaker 4: to dance, it makes this is such beautiful imagery with 89 00:04:44,053 --> 00:04:46,813 Speaker 4: that kind of music, I think so yeah, the way 90 00:04:46,853 --> 00:04:48,493 Speaker 4: she does it, I mean for it. If you get 91 00:04:48,493 --> 00:04:50,253 Speaker 4: a chance to see any of her music videos that 92 00:04:50,293 --> 00:04:55,133 Speaker 4: she's just released, they are very cinematic and just wonderful. 93 00:04:55,173 --> 00:04:55,373 Speaker 2: I think. 94 00:04:55,373 --> 00:04:58,693 Speaker 4: I think she's really pushing some boundaries but also really 95 00:04:58,733 --> 00:05:01,373 Speaker 4: finding her place and how to mix all of those 96 00:05:01,533 --> 00:05:03,573 Speaker 4: things that she loves and put them into one thing. 97 00:05:03,693 --> 00:05:05,693 Speaker 4: If you want to know what classical jazz and pop 98 00:05:05,733 --> 00:05:12,733 Speaker 4: sound like together her, then leve is your a very 99 00:05:12,773 --> 00:05:14,893 Speaker 4: Icelandic way to say that. Of course there is a 100 00:05:15,013 --> 00:05:18,333 Speaker 4: you sound, but I can't quite get it, and it 101 00:05:18,373 --> 00:05:20,773 Speaker 4: makes me want to say, like, like Marty instead. 102 00:05:20,613 --> 00:05:23,533 Speaker 3: I've done enough job with pronunciation sie free to stay. 103 00:05:23,573 --> 00:05:25,653 Speaker 3: I called sea free this morning, So you know, it's 104 00:05:25,693 --> 00:05:29,053 Speaker 3: just if you're looking for an Icelandic pronunciation, you've come 105 00:05:29,053 --> 00:05:30,093 Speaker 3: to the wrong place, I'm afraid. 106 00:05:30,133 --> 00:05:32,093 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And maybe don't look at it. Just don't 107 00:05:32,093 --> 00:05:34,213 Speaker 4: look at how it's written, I think is the best way, 108 00:05:34,213 --> 00:05:36,133 Speaker 4: and just get it in your head to say leve 109 00:05:37,293 --> 00:05:38,253 Speaker 4: and then you'll be good. 110 00:05:38,373 --> 00:05:40,293 Speaker 3: Because you know what my take is. And I feel 111 00:05:40,413 --> 00:05:44,013 Speaker 3: very like it's very rare that for someone like this 112 00:05:44,253 --> 00:05:46,733 Speaker 3: who's a little bit not off Broadway. But you know, 113 00:05:47,293 --> 00:05:50,693 Speaker 3: it's very unusual for me to have to have heard 114 00:05:50,733 --> 00:05:53,293 Speaker 3: of her before we played an album. We have played 115 00:05:53,293 --> 00:05:55,133 Speaker 3: a couple of songs of hers before. But you know, 116 00:05:56,093 --> 00:05:58,613 Speaker 3: I feel like it's perfect music for if you've got 117 00:05:58,653 --> 00:06:01,133 Speaker 3: someone coming out for dinner or something and you want 118 00:06:01,133 --> 00:06:02,213 Speaker 3: to seem cool and interesting. 119 00:06:03,333 --> 00:06:06,133 Speaker 4: Look, I think that's it because that's some discussion where they're. 120 00:06:05,933 --> 00:06:08,013 Speaker 3: Like, what's this and you're like, oh, don't you know, 121 00:06:08,613 --> 00:06:09,093 Speaker 3: don't you know that. 122 00:06:09,173 --> 00:06:11,733 Speaker 4: She's actually a new artist, and you feel all like you. 123 00:06:11,733 --> 00:06:14,373 Speaker 3: Really know exactly and you're like, yeah, yeah, like I 124 00:06:14,413 --> 00:06:17,173 Speaker 3: think I read somewhere that she's classically trained. Yeah, but 125 00:06:17,213 --> 00:06:20,093 Speaker 3: it is, it is. It is interesting music. It is. 126 00:06:20,333 --> 00:06:22,733 Speaker 4: It's really interesting music. And I think there is that 127 00:06:22,893 --> 00:06:25,613 Speaker 4: thing that actually you don't like it's beautiful for background, 128 00:06:25,733 --> 00:06:27,333 Speaker 4: but really try and sit with it so you can 129 00:06:27,373 --> 00:06:30,253 Speaker 4: hear some of her storytelling and lyrics because they're kind 130 00:06:30,293 --> 00:06:32,253 Speaker 4: of funny, like she does have that sort of dark 131 00:06:32,293 --> 00:06:35,413 Speaker 4: wish about her. Yeah, and I think again that gives 132 00:06:35,413 --> 00:06:38,173 Speaker 4: you the interest piece. So look, you're a conversation starter 133 00:06:38,173 --> 00:06:38,933 Speaker 4: at your dinner parties. 134 00:06:39,013 --> 00:06:40,213 Speaker 3: Jacks, Yeah, exactly. 135 00:06:40,413 --> 00:06:41,413 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's got it going on. 136 00:06:41,453 --> 00:06:43,373 Speaker 3: You know all, all I want is just for someone 137 00:06:43,413 --> 00:06:45,213 Speaker 3: to think that I'm cool and interesting, you know. So 138 00:06:45,293 --> 00:06:47,613 Speaker 3: this is perfect. No, that sounds really good. So what 139 00:06:47,613 --> 00:06:48,493 Speaker 3: did you give a matter. 140 00:06:48,293 --> 00:06:50,453 Speaker 4: Of Time as an eight out of teen for me? 141 00:06:50,493 --> 00:06:51,173 Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it. 142 00:06:51,253 --> 00:06:53,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, I think so. Yeah. Cool. All right, 143 00:06:53,933 --> 00:06:54,973 Speaker 3: we'll have a bit more of a listening in a 144 00:06:55,013 --> 00:06:57,133 Speaker 3: few minutes. 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