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Speaker 1: Afternoon. So the school year is kicking off with something new,

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Speaker 1: which is a new reporting system. It's rolling out this year,

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Speaker 1: giving parents of primary and intermediate aged kids nationally consistent

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Speaker 1: assessment and reporting of their children's progress. Education Minister Erica

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Speaker 1: Stanford is with us.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Erica, hey, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm well, thank you. Don't we already have reports to parents.

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Speaker 2: We do have reports to parents, but they aren't nationally

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Speaker 2: consistent to get some schools who provide very detailed, rich

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Speaker 2: reporting and others who don't do that same level of detail.

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Speaker 2: And so we're just trying to get a consistency across

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Speaker 2: the board because parents want to know how their children

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Speaker 2: are doing, and if they change schools or they go

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Speaker 2: from intermediate to primary, want it. We want it to

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Speaker 2: be the same language across the board and the same

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Speaker 2: level of detail.

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Speaker 1: Again, this is compulsory for all primary and intermediate schools.

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Speaker 2: Is it It is. It's already compulsory that they have

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Speaker 2: to report twice a year. But we are just putting

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Speaker 2: in regulations what they need to report on. So against

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Speaker 2: the new English and that's curriculum, they'll need to report

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Speaker 2: on reading, writing, and maths. But for example, within mathematics,

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Speaker 2: they'll have to report on geometry measurements some of the

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Speaker 2: other strands, you know, the number strands, so it'll be

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Speaker 2: more detailed. Rather than Maths tick proficient. It'll actually give

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Speaker 2: you far more granular detail on which strands of maths

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Speaker 2: and how your child is doing in each one, and

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Speaker 2: then what you can do at home to help them.

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Speaker 2: For example, with measurement, it might say, you know, do

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Speaker 2: some baking at home and double the recipes so they

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Speaker 2: have to practice their measurement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the feedback, because I know you trialed

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Speaker 1: it in about eighty five schools. What was the feedback

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Speaker 1: from parents? Did they like it?

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Speaker 2: We trialed the new assessment tool. The reporting framework has

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Speaker 2: been out to schools and out to the sector. We've

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Speaker 2: tried it within a number of different sector groups have

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Speaker 2: all given us extraordinarily good feedback. So there's two parts

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Speaker 2: to this. There's the twice yearly assessment which is brand

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Speaker 2: new as well. So this year schools need to assess

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Speaker 2: children in their progress twice a year and reading, writing

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Speaker 2: and maths using one of three tools, which will be

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Speaker 2: reducing to two tools next year. That for the first

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Speaker 2: time in our country's history, gives us a nationally consistent

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Speaker 2: view of student progress over time, so parents know exactly

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Speaker 2: how their kids are doing. No more getting to high

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Speaker 2: school and realizing a kid doesn't know the times tables,

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Speaker 2: because it will be assessed and it will also go

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Speaker 2: alongside teacher judgment and it will be reported on Erica.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I'm getting a lot of text from parents, completely unprompted,

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Speaker 1: complaining that there are schools who are already running teacher

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Speaker 1: only days as early as this Thursday, just ahead of

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Speaker 1: White Tonguey Day. What's going on here?

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Speaker 2: But schools need to hold curriculum days because in the

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Speaker 2: curriculum roll.

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Speaker 1: But hang on it. Think they're just coming back today

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Speaker 1: and then they're back off again on teacher only days

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. That's taken them, mickey, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well? They have to hold them across the year, and

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Speaker 2: they do try and hold them close to public holidays,

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Speaker 2: not for the reasons you think, but for the reasons

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Speaker 2: that those tend to be the days that kids take

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Speaker 2: off anyway, and they try to put them on the

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Speaker 2: days where they have the lowest student numbers.

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Speaker 1: Why are they doing it during term breaks?

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Speaker 2: That is an excellent question, My friend, and you should

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Speaker 2: ask the union that because I would love them.

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Speaker 1: Too, You would love them to, Seymour would love them to.

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Speaker 1: This has been subject to them like this was part

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Speaker 1: of the negotiations at the end of last year. This

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Speaker 1: feels very much. Yeah, like they're flicking you guys the bird?

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Speaker 2: Are they Well, there are Sorry, I'm standing outside with buses.

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Speaker 2: I apologize for the noise. There are callback days that

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Speaker 2: teachers can come in during school to break. There's ten

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Speaker 2: of them per year. The problem with them is is

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Speaker 2: that schools have to pay for childcare, travel, food and

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Speaker 2: other allowances and they just it is difficult for schools.

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Speaker 2: It comes out of their OPSCRP if they do that,

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Speaker 2: and this is part of the union requirements. And I try,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're in negotiations with the union to try

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Speaker 2: and make that a bit easier to get you know, parents, sorry,

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Speaker 2: to get teachers to come back during term break to

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Speaker 2: do their PLD. But it's proving very very difficult that

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Speaker 2: unions have a holding firm over that and I want

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Speaker 2: to do that.

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Speaker 1: Well, good luck with it, Erica, and thanks very much again,

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Speaker 1: Eric Stanford, Education Minister. For more from Heather Duplessy, Allen Drive,

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