1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: And to the courts where we've updated protocols for judge 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: alone trials. They'll be implemented nationwide from tomorrow. It involves 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: teleconferences between prosecution and defense three weeks before that trial 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: to help streamline the process. We've also got progress on 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: sentencing adjournments. They've dropped from thirty six to twenty nine 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: percent with nearly twenty nine hundred fewer delays. All of 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: the sounds reasonable. Nicle the Keys, the Minister for Courts 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: with of course, and is back with us very. 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Mike. 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: As all of this come together as this material, we 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: are getting better and tracking will Is that fair? 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: Yes, we're on the right track. I mean this is 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: a mammoth task trying to speed up the court system, 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: and I think we've been trying it over successive governments. 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: I think where we've really won with this one as 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 2: having the Chief District Court Judge Timon who come in 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: and say I'm going to get on board with what 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: the Beehives directing, how can we do this? And he's 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: come out with some really good timeliness protocols, programs, case 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: review hearing and if I care, Mike, just let me 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: run through very quickly what it all means. So three 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: weeks before a trial, as you said, Register of the 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: Court's going to contact the prosecution and defense and say 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: are you ready to proceed? And if you are, what's 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: the priority Like has this person been on remand for 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: a long time? And if that person has, let's put 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: them first and then they'll set a hearing down. Then 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: it we'll get to the day of the trial. And 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: when we have the day of the trial instead of 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: its starting at ten o'clock in the morning and the 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: judge's right, is everybody ready? The judge is going to 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: start at nine or nine point thirty, go through all 33 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: of the cases that are there and say are these 34 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: people ready? And have we got the priority right? So 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: those that have been on remand get heard first, and 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: when they say yes we are, or no, this one's not, 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: this guy's going to change his mind and he's now 38 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: going to plead guilty, he actually comes off that list. 39 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: And when he comes off that list, it frees up 40 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: the space for someone else. So those people will know 41 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: when through the day that they will be there. And 42 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: further to that, with the case review notes or hearing 43 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: guidelines that's going to come out on Friday as well. 44 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: It means that if a person says I plead not 45 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: guilty within ten days, the registrar is going to get 46 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: hold of the prosecutor and say what's your evidence for this, 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: just to check whether or not it's the case that's 48 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: worthwhile going through and where we've piloted it, we've seen 49 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: good results. So this, on top of the other changes 50 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: we're making, it's going to make huge improvements. And it's 51 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: what ACT has always said, we want fair and timely 52 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: justice for our victims, and we're starting to get their minds. 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: It also seems logical apart flary this judge alone thing, though, 54 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: is that justice being seen to be done? Are we 55 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: open to a bit of postcode judging or justice potentially? 56 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, because it's actually going to 57 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: be based on the need, the readiness of the trial 58 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: and the need of the person who is being prosecuted, 59 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: especially those ones that have been sitting on remand for 60 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: a long time. We've had quite a few people plead 61 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 2: not guilty and change their pleas later on in the process, 62 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: and that's what causes a lot of delays because we 63 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: set down these hearing dates and then they change their minds, 64 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: but they change their mind on that day, So I 65 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: don't think it has anything to do with where you live. 66 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: It's more about speeding up the entire process so you 67 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: get seen early and there's that tiny justice for victims 68 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: as well. 69 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: Good stuff to co appreciate it. Nicole McKee, who's the 70 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: Justice Minister or Minister for Court Social say she's not 71 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: the Justice Minister for Goldsmith's. For more from the My 72 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks that'd be from 73 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio