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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Simon Barnett and James Daniels Afternoons

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Speaker 1: podcast from News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Nigel Avery has spent almost fifty six years in sport,

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Speaker 2: from running, jumping, throwing as a kid in athletics to

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Speaker 2: almost making the nineteen ninety six Olympic Games in a

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Speaker 2: New Zealand bob sled team can you believe of course,

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Speaker 2: then going on to win five Commonwealth Games weightlifting, including

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Speaker 2: two goals, and competing in Olympic Games weightlifting as well.

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Speaker 2: He then went on to work in high performance management

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Speaker 2: before taking on the role of Chef de Mission in

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand Olympic team in Paris, which, as we know,

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Speaker 2: was our most successful campaign ever. It really is a

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Speaker 2: pleasure to welcome Nigel Avery on for six and a song.

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Speaker 2: Hello Nigel, Nigel.

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Speaker 3: Hey you guys have it going? Let me on, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Pleasure, Thanks for being here. Yeah, we're delighted to talk

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Speaker 2: to you. You so accomplished yourself as an athlete, but

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Speaker 2: of course now you roll as Chef de mission. Can

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Speaker 2: we just go back a little bit to your weightlifting

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Speaker 2: where you achieved reals from me to success there? What

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Speaker 2: is it about weightlifting? That appeals.

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Speaker 3: Good question. I think it's it's really sort of a

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Speaker 3: goal orientated sport, like you have a chance to hit

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Speaker 3: PBS in almost every training session of particular as a

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Speaker 3: novice or a developing lifter. So it's just the sense

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Speaker 3: of achievement of hitting those personal bests with it and

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Speaker 3: squatting all the different exercises. But then I suppose on

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Speaker 3: the competition day it's a really unique sport and that

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Speaker 3: you're attempting quite often something you've never ever listed or

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Speaker 3: set your goals and you achieved them, you know, the

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Speaker 3: sense of achievement is it's fantastic, and I was fortunate

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Speaker 3: enough to be able to do that on some on

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Speaker 3: pretty big occasions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really the reason I asked the question is

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Speaker 2: I find the sport fascinating. I love it. And of

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Speaker 2: course we've had some great lifters in this country, not

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Speaker 2: But what we did a thing a few weeks back

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Speaker 2: when the Olympics were on, and we are what's your

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Speaker 2: favorite sport. And somebody said, and I quote, I love

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Speaker 2: watching the old fat baggers in the weightlifting, And that's

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Speaker 2: the thing, the biomechanics of weightlifters. Yeah, like you can

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Speaker 2: they do look you know, they've got big motors. So

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Speaker 2: how does that work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there's different weight classes, so it's a sport

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Speaker 3: deep squad position where the belly is hitting the quads

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 4: So Nigel, you've been the shift the mission at the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I kind of help people succeed financially

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Speaker 2: It would be what's actually the job description for the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's on the I guess the athletes champion.

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Speaker 3: I'm making sure that everything we do is for the athletes.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Nigel, where does the term come from? The title

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Speaker 4: chef the mission? Because I was a bit of an

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Speaker 4: chief embarrassed that up. So where does the where does

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I guess it's a French term. So chef is chief

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Speaker 3: and mission is the delegation or the organizations are hitting

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Speaker 2: So yeah, now, Nigel, you touched on the culture. It

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Speaker 2: did really seem like there was this wonderful culture when

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Speaker 2: guessing I'm not asking for intricate details here, but I'm

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Speaker 3: They could do. So we've got a large number of

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Speaker 3: psyching and all that, So there's a number of people

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Speaker 2: But with some of the athletes from other countries, I

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Speaker 2: that again that you know, these are young, fat people

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Speaker 2: at their prime. They do dumb stuff occasionally. Is your role?

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Speaker 2: Would you have to reprimand one of your athletes if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to have some sort of discussion with it,

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Speaker 3: But because of that, you know, we spent a lot

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Speaker 3: just to make sure they really understood that. That's kind

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Speaker 3: because look, you know it's a large number of people.

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Speaker 4: So what were some of your favorite or standout moments

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a hard question. The just so many. Obviously

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Speaker 3: was pretty outstanding. And talking about athletics mates, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean Lydia, Yeah, it just goes on and on.

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Speaker 2: I know what a campaign. Hey, probably an unfair question

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Speaker 2: you see when you're with these athletes two hundred You mentioned,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because you've got Hamusk. We've interviewed him James

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Speaker 2: Then you've got the Lydias and the Butcher with the

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Speaker 2: just crazy. Yeah. Our guest is Nigel Avery in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: Olympic teams shift the mission from that highly successful the

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Speaker 2: most successful campaign. Thank you again, Nigel for your time

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 4: Nigel quick fire question number one. What's the one of

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Speaker 4: the nicest compliments you've ever received?

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Speaker 3: Maybe not the nice and maybe the most unusual. At

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Speaker 3: first ever social media post to products mind more, which business,

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Speaker 3: the first comment or the only comment was nice teeth.

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Speaker 3: About a year later I gave it. I got that

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Speaker 2: Was That's gorgeous. If you had the power to change

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Speaker 2: one thing in your world, Nigel, in your particular world,

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Speaker 2: what would it be?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think maybe the world in general. Just peace

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Speaker 3: and harmony.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, what's something that you thought was important when

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Speaker 3: Probably you know what people think of you. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you know who you are?

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Speaker 2: We've had all manner of politicians, stars, musicians, people like

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Speaker 2: yourself on here in Nigel. Success for the athletes, and

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Speaker 2: that's the thing that crops up most office. I say,

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Speaker 3: You've got so much pretty family. Shelley and I are

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Speaker 3: raising three beautiful girls. They're wonderful kids and so far,

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Speaker 2: How old are your children?

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Speaker 3: Twins are sixteen and eldest three daughters who's are about

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Speaker 4: Oh well nice, I thought you'd be proud of those teeth. Hey,

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Speaker 4: what do you consider your worst quality? We'll use the

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Speaker 3: Probably have a problem saying maybe yes, too much fine,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, are you going to stay in the role

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to. I guess there's a process involved

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Speaker 4: Hey, if you could invite any one person still alive

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Speaker 3: I think I'd invite big Grills to sharp at the

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Speaker 3: boys hunting trip at yeah, the Red Heart and he

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Speaker 3: think probably Elon two. Yeah, because I think he just

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Speaker 3: thinks just so differently on different things. That would be

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Speaker 3: pretty interesting conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Elon would be useless in the hunting trip though

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Speaker 2: he's not going to hollow out a carcass for you

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Speaker 2: to sleep in overnight. No, no, hey, we've really enjoyed

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Speaker 2: talking with you, Nigel, and congratulations again. You did seem

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Speaker 2: to run it just it just looked like the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand team really was harmonious on every level. So congratulations again.

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Speaker 2: It must have been something to really celebrate, an a

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Speaker 2: wonderful thing to be part of. So we're going to

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Speaker 2: finish with your choice of song. What have you chosen en?

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 3: We're going to go Ain't just dreemon? I think it

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Speaker 3: would be most appropriate. So toy for identic conjunction with

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Speaker 3: played that to my girls before it was released and

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Speaker 3: I said, well he's the reason of this guys, and

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Speaker 3: I said, oh yeah, we could be on for a.

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Speaker 4: Winning say what again? Who it is and what it is?

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Speaker 3: Angel treatment by toy Boy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's great, that's really lovely. Well we're going to

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Speaker 2: play that for you. Thank you very very much again,

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Speaker 2: Nigel for your time, all the best going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much to you guys, and enjoy

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Speaker 3: listening to your show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Nigel Avery, what a nice nice

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Speaker 2: man and this is his choice of.

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Speaker 5: Song to dageous stream Ress.

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Speaker 3: Hold on.

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