1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Well, it's quite the show. The Murray Party. We're expelling 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: couple King and Paris. Of course they'll become independents. They're 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: going to fight at whatever that means. Baden Barbara is 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: the spokesperson for the EECHS Forum and is with us. Baden, 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: morning to you, Good morning. What your role in this 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: and what happened yesterday? Is this all part of the 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: plan or not? 8 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no. We've we were trying 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: to get to a meeting together on Wednesday actually to 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 2: see if we could find a way forward. But this, 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: you know, this has been a process that's been happening 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: within the initial council of the Maori Party and then 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: they've come up with their decision. 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: When you say wednesday, you mean tomorrow. Is that still 15 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: going ahead? Is there any point? 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: No, it's not going ahead. We're going to hold off 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 2: on the meeting Tucket and Mediumnal. You know, they've got 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: things to consider, what their nixt moves are, and yeah, 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: there was probably not going to be the best time 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: day that we What can. 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: You explain to us in really simple terms when what 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: does it these two have done specifically? 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: I'm not too sure. I'm not too sure that the 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: grounds is why they've been kicked out of the party. 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: See, isn't that the problem? No one seems to know 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: what's going on. 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: Well, I mean would we at our meeting with the 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: co leaders. I mean there were some issues there, but 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: whether or not those specific issues were the reasons why 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: they were kicked out, yeah, yeah, But yet we've always 31 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: identified that as a problem that they're not talking to 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: each other. They haven't been talking each to each other 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: for a month now, and so if we could get 34 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: them in the room on them and I together have 35 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: face to face conversations, you know that that goes a 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: long way, goes a long way. 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: But when they say they're going to fight it, fight 38 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: it with who. 39 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: Well I guess so they'll they'll go back to the 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 2: National Council who made the decision and in public case, because. 41 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: That have any standing anywhere in law? Or is this 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: just a group of people seeing around making a few 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: decisions and they're just arguing with each other. 44 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I think that the party's got its own 45 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: constitution and rules, and so you know they're by the 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: reports they've used the constitutions. Is the reason to to 47 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: kind of move them on? 48 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: See the problem I have. I mean, I don't have 49 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: a problem because I don't care. But when you talk 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: about the Maori Party and the EWE Cheers Forum, how 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: many actual Maori do the do you guys represent? In 52 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: other words, you know plenty of Mari you're just getting 53 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: on with their life and couldn't give them monkeys about this, 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: you know, I mean they don't represent Maori them, do they? 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 2: Oh? The EUE chairs, so I mean we've got we've 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: got big ewie small EWE eighty eight in total, I 57 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: would say they would represent a big chunk of Mari 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: that are registered on the EWE enrollment. So yeah, yeah, 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: it'd be thousands, thousands of Mardi. 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: So so what's your hope? Basically they will get on, 61 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: get thereack together and stop embarrassing themselves. 62 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 2: Well we we we hope that we could find some reconciliation, 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: knowing that we're a year out from a very important 64 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: election and that the Marti Party needs to be organized 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: in dropping policy at this time not having inviting so, 66 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we were concerned with the well being and 67 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: in the future of our people, and the Marty Party 68 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: has a role to play in any government going forward. 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: Why don't you stand for the New Sounds sensible. 70 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: No, I've got a big I've got a big job 71 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: trying to look after my owny. We not to go 72 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: and we one hundred thousand people and we've got we've 73 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: got a lot of issues that we're trying to expirations 74 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: in dreams, we're trying to trying to achieve. But I mean, 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: the Marti Party got a they've got a really important 76 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: role to play in helping EWE achieve EWE explorations and exactly, 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: and so that's really important, and that's kind of why 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: was stepped in to try and find a way forward. 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: Well, what's your best with it? Biden, appreciate your time, 80 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: Biden Barber, who's these spokes erstoned? But the evue cheers 81 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: for him. 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