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Speaker 1: The legislation is on the way to introduce congestion charging

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Speaker 1: on our busiest roads. The bill will be drafted and

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Speaker 1: introduced this year select committee. From early twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: local councils will propose what their ideas are for local roads.

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Speaker 1: N ZTA will help with the design. The funds supposedly

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Speaker 1: will be ring fence. They must be reinvested back into

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Speaker 1: transport in the area. They were taken from the AA

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Speaker 1: Policy director as Martin Glynn's with us this morning. Martin,

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Speaker 1: good morning, Good to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, right.

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Speaker 1: So is this just local roads that we're talking about?

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Speaker 1: Will this actually help motorway traffic?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's local roads at all. I

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Speaker 2: think there's a very high chance that the two scheme

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Speaker 2: will be on one or more walks leaves.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we're not just talking about CBD congestion charging here.

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Speaker 2: No, we're not. I mean all the singles we've had

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Speaker 2: Ryan As. It'll be focused on negwork performance. Auckland City

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Speaker 2: centers to such a tiny proportion of the traffic it

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Speaker 2: doesn't it's sort of unable to have it impact on

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Speaker 2: the whole network. So yeah, we're expecting it'll be beyond

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Speaker 2: the city center. But we'll have to wait and see

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Speaker 2: what finally, what Auckland proposes.

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Speaker 1: Which I guess makes sense. The NZTA is involved, right,

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Speaker 1: given the motorway networks run by central.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a combination of that and the

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Speaker 2: government wanting to be really sure whatever's proposed is actually

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Speaker 2: going to shift the dialogue congestion.

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Speaker 1: In Europe, Asia the Middle East where they've done this.

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Speaker 1: It only seems to work in those central areas if

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Speaker 1: you have good public transport alternatives. Do we have that

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Speaker 1: on our motorway network, No.

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Speaker 2: We don't. Most of the motorway trucks are heading to

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Speaker 2: the city center, they're all over the place. A public

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Speaker 2: transport is now pretty good. And then out of the

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Speaker 2: city center and an Auckland's cases, of course we'll get

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Speaker 2: a lot better with the city rail length. But generally, ye,

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Speaker 2: public transport is a unable to provide a motorway trips.

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Speaker 1: What's a reasonable charge? Do you reckon? I saw Wayne

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Speaker 1: Brown saying five bucks a cup of coffee?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a hard question to right to answer,

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Speaker 2: and I will need to be about that. And they've

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Speaker 2: automated people, you know, really think about whether they need

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Speaker 2: to be on the network or not. But they're led up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like you know, five bucks a trip for someone who's

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Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't work in the office and they're

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Speaker 2: not not don't have the kind of work from home

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Speaker 2: offer in a couple of days a week, that's you know,

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Speaker 2: that could be fifty bucks, that's the way. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a big amount. And that's one of the things

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Speaker 2: we're really concerned about that the charges has got to

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Speaker 2: be affordable because you know, people don't need the alternatives.

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Speaker 2: You know, they've still got to drive.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Thanks for you Tom this morning. Martin Martin Glenn,

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Speaker 1: the AA policy director for US. And don't forget that

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Speaker 1: those changes, I mean that will be a couple of

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Speaker 1: years before they come into for so for people who

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Speaker 1: are worried right now.

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