1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: So Nittnya, who's now talking about talks over Lebanon, Iran 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: says the strait is going to stay closed and we 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: will only reopen it if the US backs off their 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: quote aggression. 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: You cannot have a check and eat it. At the 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: same time, that was the message that Roon send quite clearly, 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: crystal clearly, to Washington and to the Oral Office last night. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Alexander Cormeill with US Reutter's senior Middle East correspondent in Jerusalem. Alexander, 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: nice to have you back on the show, thanks to 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: being with me. What about Nitta Yahoo, what's the game 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: plan here do you think. 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: To try? I mean, the announcement comes just, you know, 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: a day after those huge strikes on Lebanon that has 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: now killed more than three hundred people. We don't have 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: an official date for these talks that will take place 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: with the Lebanese now. One thing to keep in mind 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: is that Lebanon, for the past month, the Lebanese government 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: has been pushing for direct talks with Israel and Natanya, 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: who had rebuffed him this whole time. One thing also 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: to consider is that the US Vice President yesterday and 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Budapest said that Israel had sort of decided to check themselves, 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: as the way he phrased it, after those strikes in Lebanon. 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: So we'll have to wait and see when and if 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: those talks will happen. Iran has been adamant that the 25 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: ceasefire also include Lebanon, and we've also seen a number 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: of European states come out to say and say Lebanon 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: must be included in the ceasefire as well. 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: Ntnya, who's wanted for a long time the Lebanese government 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: to go after his Bulla themselves, is there any chance 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: of that happening. 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: I mean, the Lebanese government and the Lebanese Armed Forces 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: were supposed to do that following a twenty twenty four 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: agreement that was essentially a ceasefire between Hesbla and Israel, 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: and the armed forces said that they the Lebanese Armed 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: Forces said they did take over areas of the south. However, 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: you know, we did see Hesba open fire in March 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: following the attacks on Iran against Israel, so it's it's 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: very unclear what capabilities they have. The Lebanese army had 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: been withdrawing from some areas of Lebanon as the Israeli 40 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: military advance and continued its bombardment. So it's you know, 41 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: if these talks happen with these a big ifs, it's 42 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: you know, there's going to be some kind of mechanism here, 43 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: some kind of guarantee that probably has to come from 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: outside of Lebanon and outside of Israel, possibly the United States, 45 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: possibly the French or always keen to play a role 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: in Lebanon. 47 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: And as terms of why nitnya who's now saying let's 48 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: talk about talks, it's pressure from the US, isn't it. 49 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: I was looking at poles that were polling Republican voters 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: on their support for Israel and its many wars, and 51 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: that has been slowly dropping through Iran. 52 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well again we saw these huge coordinated 53 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: strikes by Israel. Yes, say these strikes. Now, Israel has 54 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: traditionally targeted areas of southern Lebanon, of southern beaut areas 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: that are Shia Muslim areas where known to have a presence, 56 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: that are strongholds. Many of the areas that attacked us 57 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: they were in mixed religious areas, so Sunni, Muslim and 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: Christian areas that many Lebanese had thought were safe and 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: away from Hesbela and the toll the scale attacks has 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: really panicked many this everyday people in Lebanon. Over a 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: million people in Lebanon are displaced by have been displaced 62 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: by the Israeli military. Over a thousand people have been 63 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: killed before yesterday's attacks, and Iran has said this ceasefire 64 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: includes Lebanon and that there's no point having negotiations with 65 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: the Americans if it's not so. There has been some 66 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: question here as to whether the ceasefire the American arrange 67 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: seas I would even hold and if those Israeli strikes 68 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: as they had, jeopardized the whole truth. 69 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: Appreciate your time and Jore analysis. Alexander Cornwell Reutter has 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: seen the Middle East Correspondent. 71 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: For more from earlier edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 72 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: to news Talks. 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