WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 01 August 2026 0:00:06.667 --> 0:00:10.387 You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 0:00:10.707 --> 0:00:16.427 from News Talks EDB. The only place for the big names, 0:00:16.747 --> 0:00:21.827 the big issues, the big controversies, and the big conversations. 0:00:21.947 --> 0:00:25.267 It's all on Weekend Sports with Jason Vine and the 0:00:25.347 --> 0:00:28.827 udi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout edition on Youth Talks EDB, 0:00:29.147 --> 0:00:30.747 your home of sport. 0:00:30.867 --> 0:00:33.107 Bideck you're to get afternoon. Welcome into a new month, 0:00:33.147 --> 0:00:35.867 and welcome into the Saturday edition of Weekend Sport on 0:00:35.907 --> 0:00:39.307 News Talks EDB for the first of August fifty years, 0:00:39.587 --> 0:00:43.027 half a century since this two hundred meters left. 0:00:43.107 --> 0:00:45.707 I watch man dam right on behind John Walker. 0:00:45.747 --> 0:00:46.627 He's very strong. 0:00:47.907 --> 0:00:50.507 Walker's got in the front. He's good to stay there. 0:00:51.507 --> 0:00:58.347 Walk about Damn Partland. Well, that's coming strongly in the 0:00:58.427 --> 0:01:02.707 best traditions of tech, Lovelock and metters. Now, John Walker, 0:01:02.747 --> 0:01:05.907 when's the fifteen hundred meters gold medal at the Olympic Game? 0:01:06.347 --> 0:01:09.707 When you can you believe that's fifty years ago, Olympic 0:01:09.747 --> 0:01:12.067 fifteen hundred out of gold in Montreal, August the fir 0:01:12.267 --> 0:01:14.987 nineteen seventy six for John Walker. I'm Jason Pine Show 0:01:15.027 --> 0:01:18.547 producer Andy McDonald. We're talking Sport until three heaps to 0:01:18.627 --> 0:01:21.467 get through some thoughts on the FIFA situation in just 0:01:21.547 --> 0:01:24.707 a moment. Gold and bronze in the women's pole vault 0:01:24.747 --> 0:01:28.267 this morning in Glasgow. Eliza McCartney and Imma Generis both 0:01:28.307 --> 0:01:31.467 on the podium, going to celebrate that this hour. Couple 0:01:31.547 --> 0:01:35.667 of great studio guests as well today Stephen Adams after one, 0:01:36.147 --> 0:01:40.947 Shane Cameron with us after two. Rising darts star Jan 0:01:41.027 --> 0:01:42.827 von Fayne is also on the show. Ed of the 0:01:42.867 --> 0:01:45.867 New Zealand Darts Masters in a fortnight from now, and 0:01:46.187 --> 0:01:49.867 we'll preview a very very important gain for the Warriors 0:01:49.987 --> 0:01:52.867 against the Titans on the Gold Coach this afternoon. First 0:01:52.947 --> 0:01:55.267 up today though Stephen Fleming is the new England Test 0:01:55.547 --> 0:01:58.867 cricket coach. Going to get some reaction from the UK shortly. 0:01:58.947 --> 0:02:00.867 Your thoughts on this are welcome as well. How to 0:02:00.947 --> 0:02:03.827 reckon we'll go and why do those in power at 0:02:03.867 --> 0:02:06.707 English cricket seem to like keep we so much? Live 0:02:06.747 --> 0:02:09.347 Sport will keep it on the MPC Counties Manico hosting 0:02:09.387 --> 0:02:12.827 Tatanuki from five past two, but as always this is 0:02:12.907 --> 0:02:15.667 your show to contribute to A eight hundred and eighty 0:02:15.827 --> 0:02:18.547 ten eighty for your phone calls nine two ninety two 0:02:18.587 --> 0:02:22.267 for your text messages, emails into Jason at newstalksb dot 0:02:22.347 --> 0:02:24.787 co dot NZ nine past midday. 0:02:25.107 --> 0:02:28.707 The scoreboard only tells half the story. Finally tells the rest. 0:02:28.987 --> 0:02:32.667 Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and the Audi Q seven 0:02:32.747 --> 0:02:36.307 Dynamic Black Runout Edition Test Drive Today News. 0:02:36.187 --> 0:02:38.667 Talks env just before we move, as you heard in 0:02:38.707 --> 0:02:41.027 the Sports News with Elliott. In the last hour, FIFA 0:02:41.147 --> 0:02:44.467 President Jianni and Fantino has issued a statement on his 0:02:44.667 --> 0:02:48.627 proposal to sell off a section of FIFA tournaments, including 0:02:48.787 --> 0:02:52.227 World Cups, to private investors now. When his plan came 0:02:52.307 --> 0:02:54.747 to light in the last few days, it was met 0:02:54.827 --> 0:02:59.147 with major opposition from all parts of the football family. YUWEFA, 0:02:59.627 --> 0:03:03.827 conker CAFF and the Asian Football Confederation all voiced their 0:03:03.867 --> 0:03:08.267 official opposition to it in very strong language, threatening to 0:03:08.387 --> 0:03:13.147 boycott future World Cups unless the scheme was abandoned, and 0:03:13.347 --> 0:03:18.867 senior officials at FIFA, including Gianni and Fantino's senior advisor 0:03:18.987 --> 0:03:23.267 Carlos Cadero, have quit in protest of both the idea 0:03:23.347 --> 0:03:26.987 itself and the unilateral way in which it was being 0:03:27.267 --> 0:03:29.947 pulled together without any form of consultation at all, and 0:03:30.107 --> 0:03:33.187 now the idea is dead in the water. The statement 0:03:33.267 --> 0:03:36.547 from the FIFA President reads as follows. I'll read this verbatim. 0:03:36.907 --> 0:03:40.107 The FIFA Forward Enterprise project was intended to provide a 0:03:40.187 --> 0:03:44.187 basis for further strengthening our FIFA member associations and our 0:03:44.227 --> 0:03:48.347 sport worldwide, especially in those countries where supporters most needed, 0:03:48.427 --> 0:03:50.987 and more so, as we said from the outset to 0:03:51.067 --> 0:03:53.587 do this only if a majority of the FIFA member 0:03:53.667 --> 0:03:57.667 associations were in support and always subject to a consultation 0:03:57.867 --> 0:04:02.387 process with them, the FIFA Council, the confederations and wider stakeholders. 0:04:02.867 --> 0:04:05.387 The statement goes on to say, having listened carefully to 0:04:05.547 --> 0:04:08.667 all the views, it's become clear that the project has 0:04:08.787 --> 0:04:11.827 created divisions of a nature that, regardless of the level 0:04:11.867 --> 0:04:14.867 of support, are no longer in the interest of the 0:04:14.987 --> 0:04:18.547 objective set out in the first place. Our purpose has 0:04:18.627 --> 0:04:22.067 always been and will always be, to unite and improve. 0:04:22.667 --> 0:04:26.347 As a result, this proposal will not proceed, and the 0:04:26.427 --> 0:04:30.867 statement from Infantino finishes moving forward, My intent is to 0:04:30.947 --> 0:04:34.147 bring all interested parties back together in the coming days 0:04:34.227 --> 0:04:37.027 and weeks in the spirit of shared interest in our 0:04:37.147 --> 0:04:41.227 game and with the objective to continue growing football everywhere, 0:04:41.707 --> 0:04:45.547 particularly in those countries that mostly need our support. That 0:04:45.747 --> 0:04:51.267 is the end of the statement. This is an enforced 0:04:51.347 --> 0:04:58.667 back down of staggering, unprecedented proportions and a misjudgment of 0:04:58.867 --> 0:05:03.227 the highest order from Gianni and Fantino, which has led 0:05:03.307 --> 0:05:09.907 to utter humiliation for him. During his time as FIFA president, 0:05:10.467 --> 0:05:15.467 Infantino has become more and more detached from reality, to 0:05:15.587 --> 0:05:17.267 the point where he thought he was some sort of 0:05:17.467 --> 0:05:21.667 all powerful head of the global game and could do 0:05:21.867 --> 0:05:26.667 whatever he liked without any regard littlone discussion with anybody else. 0:05:26.907 --> 0:05:34.787 His arrogance, his levels of delusion have become breathtaking. The 0:05:34.987 --> 0:05:39.667 game is not Gianni Infantinos to sell. It is not 0:05:39.947 --> 0:05:44.627 anyone's to sell. Those in the corridors of power at 0:05:44.707 --> 0:05:48.387 FIFA are merely guardians of the game. They are not 0:05:48.587 --> 0:05:52.387 the owners of any part of it. FIFA exists to 0:05:52.627 --> 0:05:57.707 administer the game and to ensure ensure its development in 0:05:57.787 --> 0:06:00.947 all parts of the world. But somewhere along the line, 0:06:02.027 --> 0:06:07.107 Gianni Infantino has fallen under the severe misapprehension that he 0:06:07.267 --> 0:06:11.067 is somehow bigger than the game himself, or bigger than 0:06:11.147 --> 0:06:15.867 the game itself he is not, and this may well 0:06:16.027 --> 0:06:19.187 mark the beginning of the end for a man who 0:06:19.307 --> 0:06:26.267 has become deeply unpopular as football's supposed global leader. Anyone 0:06:26.947 --> 0:06:32.267 with a shred of dignity or self awareness would now resign, 0:06:33.547 --> 0:06:37.307 but Infantino has neither of those things, and so he won't. 0:06:38.187 --> 0:06:41.467 Our good friend on the show, Seb Stafford Blower wrote 0:06:41.467 --> 0:06:45.427 today in The Athletic that this is Jarni and Fantino's 0:06:46.027 --> 0:06:52.467 Icarus moment. The FIFA president has finally flown too close 0:06:52.507 --> 0:06:55.747 to the sun and the consequences for him may well 0:06:55.987 --> 0:07:00.867 and should be swift and severe. Big Gaus Big Moments. 0:07:01.027 --> 0:07:03.827 We cand Sport with Jason Vine and the outi Q 0:07:04.067 --> 0:07:06.307 seven Dynamic Black Runout edition from. 0:07:08.147 --> 0:07:10.787 News Talk z'b. Your thoughts of this are welcome through 0:07:10.867 --> 0:07:13.267 all the usual channels. Will dig down more into it 0:07:13.547 --> 0:07:16.547 as well on the show tomorrow, but any thought you 0:07:16.667 --> 0:07:20.347 have would be welcome. But former Black Caps captain Stephen 0:07:20.427 --> 0:07:23.787 Fleming is the issue for discussion to kick us off today. 0:07:23.867 --> 0:07:26.987 Confirmed as the head coach of England's men's test site, 0:07:27.347 --> 0:07:30.107 he succeeds former teammate Brendan McCullum in charge of the 0:07:30.187 --> 0:07:34.227 red ball side. McCullum will retain the white ball coaching roles. 0:07:34.707 --> 0:07:37.987 Stephen Fleming has signed a four year deal. He'll officially 0:07:38.107 --> 0:07:41.747 take charge away in South Africa later in the year. 0:07:42.067 --> 0:07:44.667 Let's get some insight into this from English based cricket 0:07:44.707 --> 0:07:48.147 writer Cameron Ponsonby. Cameron, thanks for joining us across New Zealand. 0:07:48.147 --> 0:07:52.387 What's the reaction been to Stephen Fleming being appointed England 0:07:52.707 --> 0:07:53.907 Test cricket coach. 0:07:55.787 --> 0:07:57.347 I'll change to a ki Wei friend of mine. He 0:07:57.427 --> 0:07:59.587 was wondering how Steven Fleming was going to balance the 0:07:59.707 --> 0:08:03.107 test role with his role as the fujitsu heat pump man. 0:08:03.267 --> 0:08:05.987 I don't know. That didn't mean that much to me, but. 0:08:07.707 --> 0:08:09.347 He said it was very important there how he was 0:08:09.387 --> 0:08:10.587 going to manage to do the two things at the 0:08:10.627 --> 0:08:13.587 same time. We're kind of we're just learning as we 0:08:13.667 --> 0:08:16.667 go at the moment because Stephen Fleming, he's got all 0:08:16.667 --> 0:08:20.827 the IPL credentials, but as we've kind of got used 0:08:20.827 --> 0:08:23.547 to having the big kind of celebrity personality of Brenda 0:08:23.587 --> 0:08:25.987 McCollum over the last four years, so I think everyone 0:08:26.067 --> 0:08:27.987 just wants everything to calm down a little bit. 0:08:28.507 --> 0:08:32.507 I think where it feels like an adult's being hired. 0:08:32.867 --> 0:08:36.427 I think that's kind of probably the most realistic assessment 0:08:36.467 --> 0:08:38.627 where the fear was we were going to end up 0:08:38.627 --> 0:08:40.947 with like Justin Langer and purposefully kind of go from 0:08:41.507 --> 0:08:44.147 one end of the spectrum with Brendan McCollum and then 0:08:44.147 --> 0:08:45.627 all of a sudden go all the way to the 0:08:45.707 --> 0:08:47.907 other end and with a really intense coach. But it 0:08:47.947 --> 0:08:50.107 sounds like Stephen Fleming's probably a bit of a happy 0:08:50.147 --> 0:08:53.507 middle grounds. It helps that him and McCollum know each 0:08:53.507 --> 0:08:55.867 other because the weird thing at the moment is like 0:08:55.987 --> 0:08:57.307 the ex girlfriends still in the room. 0:08:57.347 --> 0:08:58.587 Brenda mccllum's still here. 0:08:59.107 --> 0:09:02.067 He's leading the white ball teams and so this new 0:09:02.227 --> 0:09:04.587 Test head coach is going to have to manage that relationship. 0:09:05.347 --> 0:09:08.067 It's a bit strange because he's not doing the South 0:09:08.107 --> 0:09:10.227 Africa SERI or sorry, the Pakistan series but starts in 0:09:10.267 --> 0:09:13.987 a couple of weeks, so obviously in England's to too 0:09:14.107 --> 0:09:15.947 much of a degree in my opinion, we focus on 0:09:15.987 --> 0:09:19.507 the Ashes, but there's ten Test matches to go into 0:09:19.867 --> 0:09:22.507 next year's Ashes. He misses three, he's only gonna have seven, 0:09:22.547 --> 0:09:24.387 So the first series he has at home will be 0:09:24.547 --> 0:09:28.427 that Ashes series. Next year, but I think overall people 0:09:28.467 --> 0:09:31.387 are content that sensible man has been given the job. 0:09:31.587 --> 0:09:34.347 Well, it's been one of the most successful franchise coaches 0:09:34.747 --> 0:09:36.627 in world cricket in the last little while, but this 0:09:36.827 --> 0:09:40.467 is his first international coaching role. Does his success at 0:09:40.547 --> 0:09:44.027 Chinnai translate to the teat arena or are they really 0:09:44.227 --> 0:09:46.067 just completely different jobs. 0:09:47.787 --> 0:09:50.347 I think it's an amazing question, and it's a debate 0:09:50.387 --> 0:09:53.827 I've been having with my own friends about how peculiar 0:09:53.867 --> 0:09:57.147 it is that the last two head coaches that England 0:09:57.267 --> 0:10:00.787 have appointed, neither of them ever led a red Bull game. 0:10:01.307 --> 0:10:04.587 And I think it's more of a not an indictment, 0:10:04.667 --> 0:10:09.187 but a representation of the modern sports. So what if 0:10:09.187 --> 0:10:11.907 you're Brendan McCullum and Stephen Fleming, and let's say you're 0:10:11.987 --> 0:10:14.987 kind of around forty five to fifty five years old 0:10:15.027 --> 0:10:17.627 when you retired, your first coaching opportunities were probably in 0:10:17.707 --> 0:10:20.387 T twenty cricket because that's where the new opportunities were, 0:10:20.427 --> 0:10:23.227 and it's taken less seriously at that point. And now 0:10:23.267 --> 0:10:25.667 we're ten to fifteen years on and all the most 0:10:25.707 --> 0:10:29.147 experienced coaches are from a T twenty background because the 0:10:29.227 --> 0:10:31.507 most the highest paid jobs are in the IPL, and 0:10:31.587 --> 0:10:32.747 that's how you are. 0:10:32.867 --> 0:10:34.227 Those are the plumb jobs now. 0:10:34.987 --> 0:10:40.107 So I'm fascinated to see if that makes a difference, 0:10:40.187 --> 0:10:44.027 because it sounds like listening to players and other pundits, 0:10:44.387 --> 0:10:46.667 it says not, really, you're kind of coaching the basics. 0:10:46.707 --> 0:10:49.307 You're managing a team, you're managing personalities as much as 0:10:49.347 --> 0:10:50.827 you're teaching someone to play a cover drive. 0:10:51.187 --> 0:10:53.747 But I do find it interesting that in a world. 0:10:53.587 --> 0:10:56.507 Where playing like red ball and white ball, players are 0:10:56.507 --> 0:10:58.827 becoming so specialized in those two games are going further 0:10:58.867 --> 0:11:02.267 and further apart in the coaching arena at least, that 0:11:02.347 --> 0:11:05.627 that's very different. So I imagine it won't make a difference. 0:11:05.787 --> 0:11:08.027 I think the fact that he's had the experience of 0:11:08.507 --> 0:11:12.787 managing MS Tony and that character and that media intensity 0:11:12.907 --> 0:11:16.987 over in the IPL that will see him go really 0:11:17.027 --> 0:11:21.107 well over here in a way that Adam Milne was 0:11:21.147 --> 0:11:23.547 bowling some Yorkers and it's like, oh, he doesn't need 0:11:23.587 --> 0:11:24.467 to do that in the test game. 0:11:24.507 --> 0:11:25.907 So I think I think it should be okay. 0:11:25.987 --> 0:11:27.627 But it's a question I don't know the answer to, 0:11:27.707 --> 0:11:30.387 and it's one I'm kind of interested to see how 0:11:31.387 --> 0:11:31.947 it works out. 0:11:32.027 --> 0:11:35.347 Yeah, So wait, so we Cameron, you mentioned it before 0:11:35.427 --> 0:11:37.867 and you bought it really well. The ex girlfriend is 0:11:37.907 --> 0:11:40.427 still there. Brandan McCallum is still in the mix obviously, 0:11:40.507 --> 0:11:43.547 and he is the England white ball coach, so he 0:11:43.747 --> 0:11:46.067 is red and white ball coaches of England. This isn't 0:11:46.107 --> 0:11:49.227 you you've head split coaches before. How much contact will 0:11:49.267 --> 0:11:51.667 Stephen Fleming and Brendan McCallum have to have. 0:11:53.187 --> 0:11:56.387 There's going to have to be loads because next summer 0:11:57.147 --> 0:12:00.027 we have the Ashes series here in July and then 0:12:00.027 --> 0:12:02.547 two months later it's the ODI World Cup, so there's 0:12:02.587 --> 0:12:04.427 going to have to be a real balance struck between 0:12:04.547 --> 0:12:08.427 those two setups and it's awkward. So we actually just 0:12:08.467 --> 0:12:11.907 spoke to Rob Key, who's the managing Oh my god, 0:12:11.947 --> 0:12:14.147 what is his job? Director of cricket something like that. 0:12:14.187 --> 0:12:16.947 I've gone and completely forgotten. He's one of the big 0:12:16.987 --> 0:12:21.627 boys in charge, and we've been talking about he's talking about. 0:12:21.667 --> 0:12:25.987 What's different between now and before is when COVID kind 0:12:25.987 --> 0:12:28.067 of bummed up the schedule for England. They're playing so 0:12:28.227 --> 0:12:31.147 much cricket that they end up playing two series at 0:12:31.147 --> 0:12:32.747 the same time in different parts of the world, so 0:12:32.787 --> 0:12:35.867 they'd play a white ball tour in the West Indies 0:12:36.027 --> 0:12:38.427 and the Test team would be landing in Pakistan basically 0:12:38.427 --> 0:12:40.987 at the same time, and so you literally could not 0:12:41.867 --> 0:12:45.787 have your two best teams going out onto the pitch 0:12:45.867 --> 0:12:48.667 because you'd need Joff Archer to be in Karachi and 0:12:48.907 --> 0:12:52.467 Grenada and he can't do that, whereas now there is 0:12:52.547 --> 0:12:54.867 a little bit more kind of breathing room in the 0:12:54.907 --> 0:13:00.027 schedule where there is gaps between the two. However, look, 0:13:00.027 --> 0:13:01.547 if you're Brendan McCullum and you're like, well, hang on, 0:13:01.587 --> 0:13:04.507 I'm getting judged on my results here and you're not 0:13:04.587 --> 0:13:07.547 letting me have joff Erararchi or Josh Tungu or whoever 0:13:07.627 --> 0:13:09.547 my quick bowlers are because that you've got to look 0:13:09.547 --> 0:13:12.187 after him for the Test match. I don't want that 0:13:12.227 --> 0:13:14.267 to come back on me if we then lose the 0:13:14.347 --> 0:13:16.507 matches where they're not available for me. And that is 0:13:16.587 --> 0:13:18.587 what happened with Matthew Mott, who was the previous white 0:13:18.627 --> 0:13:20.747 ball coach in England, and that he basically never had 0:13:20.787 --> 0:13:24.507 his first choice team until the last od I World 0:13:24.747 --> 0:13:28.347 Up where England got thumped basically, and so he's always 0:13:28.387 --> 0:13:30.347 kind of cutted a bit of it. 0:13:30.387 --> 0:13:31.827 He's been a bit of an unfortunate figure in. 0:13:31.827 --> 0:13:35.187 English cricket because he's never had the opportunity to work 0:13:35.227 --> 0:13:38.667 with the best team that he could and now that 0:13:38.867 --> 0:13:43.547 scenario shouldn't quite happen again with Brenda McCollum. But without doubt, 0:13:43.907 --> 0:13:46.747 without doubt, it's going to be office politics, kind of 0:13:46.787 --> 0:13:49.307 behind the scenes of trying to make sure both parties 0:13:49.307 --> 0:13:51.147 will want their best team. And you know who's going 0:13:51.227 --> 0:13:53.707 to win that conversation, Stephen Fleming, because people came more 0:13:53.747 --> 0:13:54.747 about test cricket. 0:13:55.627 --> 0:13:59.627 Stephen Fleming inheriting a good team. 0:14:01.467 --> 0:14:08.067 No, it's we. 0:14:08.347 --> 0:14:11.027 I think these numbers used to be kind of rattled 0:14:11.307 --> 0:14:14.667 through my head bit's but with England are losing a lot. 0:14:15.147 --> 0:14:17.187 We haven't won like a multi match series since like 0:14:17.227 --> 0:14:18.947 the end of twenty twenty four, since we played you guys. 0:14:18.987 --> 0:14:21.867 Actually, you guys just beat us at home. 0:14:21.907 --> 0:14:23.707 That's the first time we've lost like a proper series 0:14:23.747 --> 0:14:26.787 at home since twenty twelve. We've got thumps in the ashes. 0:14:26.827 --> 0:14:29.307 We didn't beat India. They always talk about this stuff. 0:14:29.307 --> 0:14:31.787 It annoys me so much because they talk about how 0:14:31.827 --> 0:14:34.827 we judge ourselves against India and Australia. I'm like, well, 0:14:34.907 --> 0:14:37.067 other teams like are good and exists, and I was 0:14:37.067 --> 0:14:38.707 actually quite I can say this because I'm talking on 0:14:38.747 --> 0:14:40.467 New Zealand radio rather than at home, Like I was 0:14:40.507 --> 0:14:42.547 kind of relieved when you guys beat us because I see, 0:14:42.947 --> 0:14:45.307 like other countries are good. We can't we shouldn't just 0:14:45.347 --> 0:14:48.587 be spending all our time focusing on these only these 0:14:48.627 --> 0:14:49.227 two series. 0:14:49.427 --> 0:14:50.747 We're going to go to South Africa away. 0:14:50.947 --> 0:14:52.627 They probably gonna beat us as well because they're a 0:14:52.667 --> 0:14:54.587 really good cricket team, but they say we're going to 0:14:54.627 --> 0:14:57.547 focus on India and Australia and across Brekenda McCollum's time 0:14:57.587 --> 0:15:00.707 in charge, we won six out of twenty matches against 0:15:00.707 --> 0:15:02.507 those guys. We never beat them in one of the 0:15:02.547 --> 0:15:06.107 big series. So when it comes down to the kind 0:15:06.147 --> 0:15:09.987 of the series, the results where they are judged they've 0:15:10.067 --> 0:15:12.067 not performed to the level they want. 0:15:12.667 --> 0:15:15.707 Is the team which basically is new now. 0:15:16.067 --> 0:15:19.027 So Joe Root's basically the last of that previous generation 0:15:19.227 --> 0:15:22.347 that a lot of you, Ben Stokes, Stuart Braw, James Anderson, 0:15:22.427 --> 0:15:25.947 Johnny Bears, so, Chris Wokes, everyone's gone that it's just 0:15:26.107 --> 0:15:28.107 Joe Root left and he's now captain again. So he's 0:15:28.147 --> 0:15:32.027 basically leaving the children forward. It's not a bad cricket team. 0:15:33.307 --> 0:15:35.507 There has a lot of potential in it. Harry Brook 0:15:35.947 --> 0:15:40.627 is a phenomenally talented cricketer. Ben Ducketts had a bit 0:15:40.627 --> 0:15:42.387 of a dip recently, but he's excellent as well. 0:15:42.427 --> 0:15:43.707 There's exciting bowlers. 0:15:43.947 --> 0:15:46.507 We don't have a spinner, but I mean you guys 0:15:46.547 --> 0:15:48.867 get by with Ratchan and Glenn Phillips, so maybe maybe 0:15:48.867 --> 0:15:52.707 you don't need one. No, So basically what I'm saying 0:15:52.827 --> 0:15:57.107 is if Stephen Fleming has success, congratulations because he's changed 0:15:57.147 --> 0:15:58.787 something because we've been losing recently. 0:15:58.827 --> 0:16:01.627 Now, well you mentioned Joe Roup before. He's back as 0:16:01.747 --> 0:16:04.187 taste capt and then there's always a lot of chet. 0:16:04.227 --> 0:16:07.067 When Brendan McCallum was in charge, he and benchs the 0:16:07.147 --> 0:16:10.427 coach captain relationship was always seen as is very important. 0:16:11.027 --> 0:16:14.627 How do you evaluate the potential Stephen Fleming Joe Root 0:16:14.987 --> 0:16:18.667 partnership as coach in captain in red ball cricket for England? 0:16:20.547 --> 0:16:24.387 Just sensible, so responsible, two kind of men who are 0:16:24.467 --> 0:16:29.147 just going to make sure everything's okay. It's a really 0:16:29.507 --> 0:16:32.347 bizarre situation that Joe Rue is back in the saddle 0:16:32.787 --> 0:16:34.907 because he was a broken Man. At the end of 0:16:34.987 --> 0:16:38.547 his previous tenure as Captaincy, England had won one match 0:16:38.587 --> 0:16:42.507 in seventeen, we'd had COVID, they'd gone away to Australia 0:16:42.507 --> 0:16:44.067 and played a horrible lockdown series. 0:16:44.107 --> 0:16:45.627 They've then gone to India as well. 0:16:46.387 --> 0:16:50.707 And that's actually it's sounding more rather than it being 0:16:51.267 --> 0:16:54.067 that's a scar, which means he never wanted this job again. 0:16:54.627 --> 0:16:57.067 It's actually feels like a bit of an injustice that 0:16:57.667 --> 0:17:01.027 it was left in the way it was because before 0:17:01.227 --> 0:17:04.267 that final year and a half of Joe's roots Captaincy, 0:17:04.387 --> 0:17:07.227 if you just skip a tiny bit ahead, his stock 0:17:07.267 --> 0:17:10.347 had never really been higher. He had this generational series 0:17:10.507 --> 0:17:13.147 away in Sri Lanka where England won I think they 0:17:13.187 --> 0:17:15.147 won three nil. Then they went to Indian and they 0:17:15.187 --> 0:17:16.707 won the first Test of this series and Joe it 0:17:16.787 --> 0:17:17.947 pretty much scored centuries in. 0:17:17.947 --> 0:17:20.827 All the games and it was like, Wow, this is 0:17:20.907 --> 0:17:22.667 the time where the man. 0:17:22.547 --> 0:17:24.387 Who previously husd to not be able to turn fifties 0:17:24.387 --> 0:17:26.707 into hundreds, which is something him and Stephen Pleman can 0:17:26.747 --> 0:17:29.187 have a chat about that'd be nice, has now kind 0:17:29.227 --> 0:17:31.707 of cracked that kind of curse he had. He's now 0:17:31.747 --> 0:17:34.747 scoring loads of runs England are winning, and then like 0:17:34.827 --> 0:17:38.747 the world exploded and so too did the England kind 0:17:38.747 --> 0:17:42.587 of fortunes within cricket, and so now he had the 0:17:42.627 --> 0:17:45.347 little taste of it again at the Oval when Ben 0:17:45.427 --> 0:17:49.387 Stokes was suspended for his late night antics, and then 0:17:50.627 --> 0:17:52.987 it just feels like he's got a chance to put 0:17:53.027 --> 0:17:55.867 a bowl on everything. The fear that I think we 0:17:56.027 --> 0:17:59.867 have as fans is he's batting so brilliantly and the 0:18:00.027 --> 0:18:03.827 Test captaincy did overall not right at the end of 0:18:03.867 --> 0:18:08.147 his tenure, but overall impacts his battle performance. He does 0:18:08.187 --> 0:18:10.027 average less when he's captain than when he's. 0:18:09.907 --> 0:18:13.947 Not, So in a best case scenario, he's not having 0:18:13.987 --> 0:18:15.347 to do this. It's just Joe. 0:18:15.427 --> 0:18:17.267 You carry on back in for another two or three years, 0:18:18.387 --> 0:18:21.187 catch Statchington, Dolker, Winner, Nash years and ride off into 0:18:21.187 --> 0:18:21.707 the sunset. 0:18:21.787 --> 0:18:22.867 It should be Harry Brooke. 0:18:23.147 --> 0:18:25.867 He's twenty seven, he's played forty Test matches, averages fifty five. 0:18:26.067 --> 0:18:29.027 On paper, he's absolutely the correct candidate, and it's an 0:18:29.067 --> 0:18:32.227 indictment of the fact that no one else is ready 0:18:32.267 --> 0:18:35.427 to do it, that Joe's having to have another go. 0:18:35.747 --> 0:18:38.907 But I think from his perspective, he saw how tight 0:18:39.227 --> 0:18:42.827 McCollum and Stokes were were and how much Stokes enjoyed 0:18:42.907 --> 0:18:45.747 working with someone who was kind of that they bonded 0:18:45.827 --> 0:18:48.467 with and saving filhme, he's got reputation as a great tactician, 0:18:49.347 --> 0:18:52.267 and Rupe went, you know what, let's have an overgo 0:18:52.307 --> 0:18:53.707 at this and kind of sign off the way I 0:18:53.747 --> 0:18:55.787 would like to as opposed to the way it had 0:18:55.827 --> 0:18:56.547 happened previously. 0:18:56.987 --> 0:18:59.427 And the other big discussion point, obviously of Bringda McCallum's 0:18:59.507 --> 0:19:03.027 rign was what happened off the field England's cricket culture. 0:19:03.387 --> 0:19:05.707 I guess she'd call it, well, what kind of influence 0:19:05.787 --> 0:19:08.347 do you think state than flaming will have on the 0:19:08.427 --> 0:19:11.267 culture of the team beyond just you know, tectics in 0:19:11.347 --> 0:19:11.947 team selection. 0:19:13.067 --> 0:19:16.067 Well, there's an interview he did with the Cricket Monthly 0:19:16.067 --> 0:19:17.707 a couple of years ago, which is doing the rounds 0:19:17.787 --> 0:19:20.787 now in England, where there's a paragraph of text where 0:19:20.867 --> 0:19:22.387 you could copy and paste it and it would sound 0:19:22.387 --> 0:19:25.907 like Brendan McCollum about optional training sessions and player autonomy 0:19:25.947 --> 0:19:29.587 and just giving the responsibility to the players. So it 0:19:29.707 --> 0:19:32.147 sounds like it's going to be a little bit of 0:19:32.187 --> 0:19:35.507 a reversion to the mean here where it's still going 0:19:35.547 --> 0:19:39.467 to be player first, individualized, you guys look after yourself, 0:19:39.547 --> 0:19:42.187 but just with the kind of the eyes dotted and 0:19:42.227 --> 0:19:44.707 the t's crossed and a little bit more attention to detail, 0:19:44.707 --> 0:19:48.627 which I think sounds like a happy middle ground. There's 0:19:48.707 --> 0:19:53.547 really strange thing that and a great example of how 0:19:53.707 --> 0:19:57.867 things and why things went wrong over in England is 0:19:58.547 --> 0:20:02.427 when Brendan McCollums started as England had Test coach, it 0:20:02.587 --> 0:20:07.667 was like the most freewheeling, carefree, relaxed environment in cricket, 0:20:07.747 --> 0:20:10.867 in world cricket. And that team finished with a bedtime. 0:20:11.467 --> 0:20:13.827 That was the change that happened. They put a curfew 0:20:13.867 --> 0:20:17.107 in they're not drinking on match days. That it was 0:20:17.187 --> 0:20:19.947 the distinct shift that happened of how it all kind 0:20:19.947 --> 0:20:23.467 of fell apart and so as bizarre as it may sound, 0:20:23.987 --> 0:20:26.787 given Brendan McCallum has a reputation for being very kind 0:20:26.787 --> 0:20:28.947 of relaxed, if not casual, I think is the way 0:20:29.147 --> 0:20:32.147 they describe it. It's going to have to get more 0:20:32.187 --> 0:20:36.067 relaxed again because at the moment the fact that on 0:20:36.187 --> 0:20:38.987 the last day of a Test match, if England win, 0:20:39.587 --> 0:20:41.147 like the guys can't have a beer with each other 0:20:41.187 --> 0:20:43.387 in the changing room Like that's that's absurd, Like what 0:20:43.587 --> 0:20:47.587 what situation we got to where that arguably the best 0:20:47.707 --> 0:20:51.947 bit of playing team sports is taken away and the 0:20:52.067 --> 0:20:53.627 idea of that, oh you got to be in bed 0:20:53.707 --> 0:20:57.387 by twelve, like I have a day like what we're 0:20:57.387 --> 0:21:00.787 talking about here. So hopefully he can just be sensible, 0:21:01.987 --> 0:21:07.187 bringing probably more structured training regimes and basically how the professionalism, 0:21:07.987 --> 0:21:11.987 but also have the leeway for everyone to be able 0:21:12.027 --> 0:21:14.987 to just be grown ups and be trusted to go 0:21:15.147 --> 0:21:18.907 to a better twelve thirty A drink sounds right? 0:21:19.347 --> 0:21:22.147 It does all right to me, Cameron. You've given us 0:21:22.147 --> 0:21:24.867 amazing insight made It's a fascinating time for English cricket. 0:21:24.907 --> 0:21:28.067 We'll be watching with great interest as Stephen Fleming takes 0:21:28.107 --> 0:21:30.067 the reins. Thanks for joining us across New Zealand to 0:21:30.747 --> 0:21:31.747 lend us your analysis. 0:21:32.107 --> 0:21:33.627 No, thank you, Jason Chairs Now. 0:21:33.627 --> 0:21:35.827 Good on you mate. That is our Cameron Ponsonby, England 0:21:36.027 --> 0:21:40.067 based cricket writer on the appointment of Stephen Fleming as 0:21:40.747 --> 0:21:44.507 English Test cricket coach twelve twenty nine. Your chance to 0:21:44.587 --> 0:21:46.547 give us your reaction to the lines open on eight 0:21:46.667 --> 0:21:49.187 hundred and eighty ten eighty. I saw a bit of 0:21:49.267 --> 0:21:53.467 rhetoric during the week which suggested Stephen Fleming coaching England 0:21:54.347 --> 0:21:59.707 was somehow unpatriotic. I could not agree less with that. 0:22:00.027 --> 0:22:02.707 I have to say Stephen Fleming can coach whoever he 0:22:02.787 --> 0:22:06.027 wants to, just like any key week coach in any 0:22:06.067 --> 0:22:10.467 sport can coach any team that wants them. At the Helm, 0:22:10.627 --> 0:22:15.067 we have long since moved past the point where teams 0:22:15.227 --> 0:22:19.987 and nations only consider their countrymen and women to coach them. 0:22:20.667 --> 0:22:25.427 Appointments are made on ability, not nationality, and when Brendan 0:22:25.467 --> 0:22:27.707 mcallum got the England job, I heard some similar stuff 0:22:28.187 --> 0:22:31.227 and the secondary layer to it, which was probably to 0:22:31.307 --> 0:22:34.387 be fair, at the heart of any negativity was why 0:22:34.467 --> 0:22:38.067 can't he coach us? Look of New Zealand Cricket wanted 0:22:38.107 --> 0:22:41.467 Brendan mcallum or Stephen Fleming or anyone coaching the black Caps, 0:22:41.507 --> 0:22:45.307 they are absolutely free and able to explore that option. 0:22:46.427 --> 0:22:49.307 The feeling has always been that we can't compete with 0:22:49.427 --> 0:22:52.747 the money that is on offer elsewhere, and that's probably true. 0:22:52.867 --> 0:22:57.067 But if New Zealand Cricket really really wanted a certain coach, 0:22:57.187 --> 0:23:00.667 be it Stephen Fleming, Brendan McCullum or anyone they could 0:23:00.667 --> 0:23:03.027 if they wanted to, if they really wanted to, they 0:23:03.067 --> 0:23:06.107 could make it happen financially. The fact is, though, that 0:23:06.587 --> 0:23:09.467 taking over as Black Aps coach, Rob Walter has done 0:23:09.467 --> 0:23:12.667 a pretty exceptional job. I'm not sure too many of 0:23:12.787 --> 0:23:15.067 us knew that much about him before, certainly not as 0:23:15.147 --> 0:23:18.587 much as we did about Brendan McCullum or Stephen Fleming. 0:23:18.627 --> 0:23:22.547 But Rob Walter as very quickly and pretty quietly built 0:23:22.627 --> 0:23:24.907 up an excellent body of work, including the Tea series 0:23:24.947 --> 0:23:28.347 win over England in England, which has us now looking 0:23:28.427 --> 0:23:32.827 forward with great optimism towards the tour by India and 0:23:32.987 --> 0:23:36.147 our tour of Australia in the next six months or so. 0:23:37.027 --> 0:23:38.787 But on Stephen Fleming, I think this is a great 0:23:38.787 --> 0:23:44.507 appointment by England, extremely impressive bloke and as Camerger said, 0:23:44.587 --> 0:23:48.187 a slightly different type of character to Brendan McCullum, which 0:23:48.267 --> 0:23:52.027 was probably needed. Stephen Fleming's never coached international cricket, so 0:23:52.707 --> 0:23:55.987 I guess there's a small question mark there, but there's 0:23:56.027 --> 0:23:58.947 never been any question about his cricket in IQ or 0:23:59.027 --> 0:24:02.307 as man management ability. I mean, you don't survive and 0:24:02.467 --> 0:24:05.787 thrive for seventeen years in the cutthroat quadron of the 0:24:05.827 --> 0:24:08.627 IPL without having a bit about you. I think he'll 0:24:08.667 --> 0:24:12.187 be great for England. And even if he did have 0:24:12.307 --> 0:24:15.587 a thought that he was in some way being unpatriotic, 0:24:15.907 --> 0:24:19.427 which I doubt he is, it wouldn't be based on 0:24:19.547 --> 0:24:21.987 anything other than the odds snipe from cricket fans here 0:24:22.907 --> 0:24:25.627 who are probably just a bit gutted that he's coaching 0:24:25.667 --> 0:24:28.867 England and not us. Twelve thirty one, Dallas with you 0:24:28.987 --> 0:24:31.467 after this eight hundred and eighty ten eighties and number 0:24:31.547 --> 0:24:33.907 nine two ninety two for your text messages. This is 0:24:33.947 --> 0:24:35.867 Weekend Sport on Newstalk's EDB. 0:24:36.467 --> 0:24:40.067 Big Calls, Big Moments We Can Sport with Jason Vine 0:24:40.187 --> 0:24:43.387 and the outi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout edition from 0:24:43.427 --> 0:24:46.107 one thirty nine nine ninety News Talks. 0:24:45.907 --> 0:24:48.427 EDB coming up twenty six away from one want to 0:24:48.987 --> 0:24:52.987 get you to the Woman's Pole Vault in Glasgow before 0:24:53.027 --> 0:24:57.587 one o'clock but talking some cricket. Hello Dallas, Hi, Tonny, 0:24:57.667 --> 0:24:59.307 how you doing very good things? 0:24:59.387 --> 0:24:59.667 Dallas. 0:25:01.267 --> 0:25:03.867 I think it's a great appointment. I feel very proud 0:25:05.107 --> 0:25:13.787 as Akiwi that we're so well recognized and respected in 0:25:14.027 --> 0:25:18.507 English cricket and yeah, I think it's amazing that he's 0:25:18.587 --> 0:25:21.507 never actually coached the Test team. 0:25:22.627 --> 0:25:25.267 Yeah, I think he's Yeah, no, it is, and I'm 0:25:25.347 --> 0:25:28.187 sure he's had approaches. He's been up in the IPL 0:25:28.307 --> 0:25:32.067 with Chennai for yes, seventeen years. I mean even to 0:25:32.267 --> 0:25:36.547 last seventeen years in the IPL for whatever reason, you know, 0:25:36.667 --> 0:25:38.787 whether you get sick of it or they get sick 0:25:38.827 --> 0:25:41.667 of you, the results don't go your way. To last 0:25:41.747 --> 0:25:43.787 that long, you've got to have a bit about you. 0:25:43.907 --> 0:25:46.507 And yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing from Stephen Fleming. 0:25:46.547 --> 0:25:49.467 I haven't seen any media with him. We reached out 0:25:49.507 --> 0:25:51.307 to him and he said, look, he can't really talk 0:25:51.347 --> 0:25:53.827 at the moment, but he will when the time is right. 0:25:54.067 --> 0:25:55.987 Really keen to find out from him why he felt 0:25:56.067 --> 0:25:58.347 like this was the right opportunity at this time. 0:26:01.067 --> 0:26:05.987 Yeah, no, no, it will be interesting. I think it 0:26:06.067 --> 0:26:08.507 isn't a steak with Joe Route being captain. I think 0:26:08.547 --> 0:26:12.947 he's a terrible captain. He just seems to have no 0:26:14.427 --> 0:26:17.227 feel on the on the ground for the game and 0:26:17.907 --> 0:26:19.907 he always seems to over bowl. 0:26:21.187 --> 0:26:22.147 For Archer or. 0:26:24.227 --> 0:26:28.987 Yeah, I think being a great batsman doesn't necessarily translate 0:26:29.027 --> 0:26:31.867 to Captaincy. I think we saw that with Williamson as well, 0:26:32.707 --> 0:26:35.747 So yeah, I think that's a bit of a weakness. 0:26:35.867 --> 0:26:40.947 But hey, I've got a prediction. Finally, go on, Ben Stokes. 0:26:41.027 --> 0:26:44.267 We're back for the ashes here, alright. 0:26:44.747 --> 0:26:47.067 I'll take the beat with you, Dallas. I'll take the beat. 0:26:47.387 --> 0:26:48.667 I'll take the beat that he won't be. 0:26:49.427 --> 0:26:49.747 I don't know. 0:26:49.827 --> 0:26:51.547 We bought on chocolate fish or something. I don't know. 0:26:54.467 --> 0:26:58.547 He'll be back. It'll be. They love drama over there, 0:26:58.587 --> 0:27:01.747 they love the drama, big comeback. 0:27:02.507 --> 0:27:02.707 Yeah. 0:27:03.107 --> 0:27:06.987 The other thing is I invented the word flemblele ehl 0:27:07.427 --> 0:27:08.307 p at l. 0:27:08.547 --> 0:27:13.307 Gm different kind of flem ha. Good on your Dallas, 0:27:13.507 --> 0:27:15.107 Thanks mate, You're right. I think we do it. We 0:27:15.427 --> 0:27:17.227 agree that they do like a bit of drama over there. 0:27:17.587 --> 0:27:20.227 It feels like to me though, and I you know, 0:27:20.467 --> 0:27:22.547 not saying that Brenda McCallum did, but it feels to 0:27:22.627 --> 0:27:24.947 me as though Stephen Fleming would have no time for that, 0:27:25.427 --> 0:27:28.507 would just not be interested in any drama whatsoever, he 0:27:28.587 --> 0:27:30.387 said a coach a cricket team. To be fair, Brenda 0:27:30.427 --> 0:27:33.147 McCullum was as well. I think drama just happens around 0:27:34.987 --> 0:27:38.747 around English sports teams. For whatever reason. Just on Joe Root, 0:27:40.307 --> 0:27:43.667 I hope that in his second crack at captain c 0:27:44.347 --> 0:27:47.987 that he aligns himself with some of the values of 0:27:47.987 --> 0:27:50.067 Steven Fleming, which you'll get the opportunity to do that. 0:27:50.627 --> 0:27:54.347 You know, the coach captain relationship in cricket is probably 0:27:54.467 --> 0:27:57.467 more integral to a team's success than in most other sports, 0:27:59.067 --> 0:28:02.467 the way that the two go together, and often you 0:28:02.547 --> 0:28:05.307 get a couple of similar personalities. And I think we 0:28:05.427 --> 0:28:08.347 probably had that with Brenda McCullum and Ben Stokes and 0:28:08.467 --> 0:28:11.787 Stephen Fleming and Joe Roots strike me as fairly similar 0:28:11.947 --> 0:28:17.267 types of cricketing personalities. And Cameron Ponsonby said said exactly that. 0:28:17.387 --> 0:28:20.387 He said, you know that they're both deep thinkers about 0:28:20.427 --> 0:28:23.547 the game. I like the tactics and the and the 0:28:23.627 --> 0:28:26.987 minutia of the game. So I hope that Stephen Fleming 0:28:28.147 --> 0:28:33.307 brings out the best and Joe Root, Hi Jason. The 0:28:33.347 --> 0:28:36.867 nonsense of some people objecting to our sports greats coaching 0:28:36.947 --> 0:28:41.027 elsewhere it started when Russell Coots and Brad Butterworth went 0:28:41.067 --> 0:28:44.307 to another team after the two thousand. America's carpets are 0:28:44.427 --> 0:28:46.787 a garbage, says Tony. People are free to use their 0:28:46.827 --> 0:28:50.987 skills anywhere they wish. Totally agree, Tony totally agree, Pinty 0:28:50.987 --> 0:28:54.627 correct decision, says this one. McCullum white bull, Fleming, red bull. 0:28:55.867 --> 0:28:56.067 Yeah. 0:28:56.787 --> 0:29:03.027 When when Brenda McCullum was first was first appointed as 0:29:03.107 --> 0:29:04.987 the Test coach, because that was the job he was 0:29:05.307 --> 0:29:09.667 appointed to first, they had split coaches and Brenda McCullum 0:29:09.747 --> 0:29:13.547 took the red ball job, and I guess we probably 0:29:13.627 --> 0:29:15.747 all thought, you know what, Brendan McCullum just feels better 0:29:15.827 --> 0:29:20.067 suited to white ball coaching. He was a brilliant Test cricketer, 0:29:20.187 --> 0:29:23.467 as we know, but white ball just seems to suit 0:29:23.547 --> 0:29:28.587 his personality, his approach, his aggression, that sort of thing. 0:29:29.027 --> 0:29:30.907 Put it this way, if I said to you, okay, 0:29:30.987 --> 0:29:33.427 Brendan McCullum, Stephen Fleming, one of them is going to 0:29:33.507 --> 0:29:35.227 coach the white ball team, one of them is going 0:29:35.307 --> 0:29:37.627 to coach the red ball team. Which would you choose 0:29:37.667 --> 0:29:39.907 for which? It's funny, isn't it? That Stephen Fleming has 0:29:39.947 --> 0:29:42.867 made such a brilliant career out of white ball coaching 0:29:43.307 --> 0:29:46.347 and Brendan mullum got an opportunity at international level to 0:29:46.427 --> 0:29:48.867 coach red ball when it feels really natural though, it 0:29:48.867 --> 0:29:51.787 should be the other way around, and now it is so. 0:29:52.067 --> 0:29:54.587 Not only are we interested now in tracking what happens 0:29:54.987 --> 0:29:59.387 to England's test side, it's going to be very very 0:29:59.427 --> 0:30:03.107 interesting too, now, unencumbered from the test stuff, whether Brendan 0:30:03.147 --> 0:30:05.307 McCullum can make a real good guy of the white 0:30:05.347 --> 0:30:11.867 ball stuff. Jason, it is possible to accept that Stephen 0:30:11.907 --> 0:30:14.427 Fleming is perfectly free to do this and at the 0:30:14.507 --> 0:30:17.467 same time be a little disappointed that he wants to 0:30:17.587 --> 0:30:22.987 coach against his own country. Patriotism isn't the only virtual virtue. Rather, 0:30:23.707 --> 0:30:27.787 but it's undeniable that this isn't a patriotic choice. Yeah, look, 0:30:27.827 --> 0:30:30.867 I take the point, of course. I think we'd all 0:30:30.907 --> 0:30:32.987 love it. If I would have loved to have had 0:30:33.027 --> 0:30:35.267 Brenda mullen coach in the black Caps, would love to 0:30:35.307 --> 0:30:38.067 have had Stephen Fleming coach in the black Caps. That 0:30:38.267 --> 0:30:43.907 may happen down the track, but I already, in these 0:30:44.307 --> 0:30:49.147 days of modern professional sport, I fail to see how 0:30:49.267 --> 0:30:53.787 patriotism can be in any way ascribed as a you know, 0:30:54.067 --> 0:30:56.507 as a reason why somebody does or doesn't do something. 0:30:57.947 --> 0:31:01.507 If this is the right opportunity for Stephen Fleming, then 0:31:02.267 --> 0:31:06.907 he should take it. And he has twenty to one. 0:31:07.027 --> 0:31:09.107 Gonna take a right comeback talk some women's pole vault 0:31:09.187 --> 0:31:11.547 Golden bronze in Glasgow this morning. We'll cover that off 0:31:11.587 --> 0:31:12.147 when we come back. 0:31:12.227 --> 0:31:15.307 Sport doesn't Stomp at the full time Whistle Weekend Sport 0:31:15.507 --> 0:31:18.787 with Jason Pine and the outi Q seven Dynamic Black 0:31:18.867 --> 0:31:22.747 Runout Edition includes thirty thousand dollars of premium upgrades. Call 0:31:22.867 --> 0:31:25.587 oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty News Talk said. 0:31:25.467 --> 0:31:28.187 Be coming up sixteen to one Golden bronze and the 0:31:28.227 --> 0:31:34.267 women's pole vault at the Calm Games this morning. Kennedy, No, 0:31:34.547 --> 0:31:37.547 she can't. It's a gold medal for New Zealand. 0:31:37.947 --> 0:31:40.587 Eliza McCartney has won the gold medal. 0:31:41.987 --> 0:31:46.907 Well, Nina Kennedy. We did not expect to have four 0:31:47.067 --> 0:31:50.307 sixty five on her card today as her best height. 0:31:50.947 --> 0:31:51.827 Got a silver. 0:31:51.707 --> 0:31:54.907 Medalist today and a guaranteed gold in. 0:31:55.067 --> 0:32:00.107 Glasgow for this woman here. Redemption for McCartney. 0:32:00.267 --> 0:32:04.787 Yeah, Eliza McCartney Gold imagineeris bronze. Olivia mctaggett finished fourth 0:32:04.827 --> 0:32:06.867 the other KIW that was the v there at the 0:32:06.987 --> 0:32:09.427 end of former Olympian Sarah Cowley Ross, who was on 0:32:09.507 --> 0:32:12.147 the call with Sky and offered some brilliant analysis. You 0:32:12.267 --> 0:32:14.867 must have really enjoyed that, Sarah oh, I loved it, 0:32:15.027 --> 0:32:15.227 and I. 0:32:15.267 --> 0:32:18.267 Think New Zealand would have loved waking up to that result, 0:32:18.387 --> 0:32:20.667 or hopefully they got up early and watched it. But 0:32:21.347 --> 0:32:24.787 what a thrilling final and just so wonderful to see 0:32:24.987 --> 0:32:28.747 Eliza on top of the podium after such a long 0:32:28.907 --> 0:32:32.267 journey in the pole vault, and also to have you 0:32:32.347 --> 0:32:35.387 know her New Zealand teammate image and Ras there as well. 0:32:35.867 --> 0:32:38.787 Just before we unpack what happened in the competition, and 0:32:38.987 --> 0:32:41.267 just from your words there you also use the word 0:32:41.387 --> 0:32:44.467 redemption in commentary. And it has been quite the journey 0:32:44.867 --> 0:32:47.827 for Eliza McCartney, hasn't it Since she won bronze at Rio. 0:32:47.947 --> 0:32:49.347 What's that ten years ago? 0:32:49.467 --> 0:32:49.627 Now? 0:32:50.627 --> 0:32:52.947 Yeah, she shot to fame and she was only nineteen 0:32:53.107 --> 0:32:55.987 then and we forget that, you know, And it has 0:32:56.107 --> 0:33:00.387 been just a tumultuous journey, probably is an understatement for 0:33:00.947 --> 0:33:05.867 Eliza after that silver at the Gold Coast Common Math Games, 0:33:06.027 --> 0:33:11.507 follow years of Kelly's troubles inflammatory conditions, and she missed 0:33:11.587 --> 0:33:15.987 Tokyo Olympics, she missed the Birmingham Games, and you would 0:33:16.027 --> 0:33:18.907 have to say this is a story of resilience, of 0:33:19.627 --> 0:33:24.267 courage to keep going, and just the smile on her face. 0:33:24.787 --> 0:33:28.267 It was trademark McCartney, but also some tears in there 0:33:28.307 --> 0:33:30.787 as well because it means so much to her and 0:33:30.947 --> 0:33:31.387 her team. 0:33:32.147 --> 0:33:35.267 So we got to form me to seventy. Eliza McCartney 0:33:35.307 --> 0:33:38.707 had cleared every previous height at the first attempt Australia 0:33:38.787 --> 0:33:41.747 Nana Kennedy had a miss at four sixty five. So 0:33:42.267 --> 0:33:44.987 when neither of them could clear four seventy, Eliza McCartney 0:33:45.027 --> 0:33:47.347 took the gold on countback. So what did you make 0:33:47.387 --> 0:33:49.667 of her clearances? It for me to thirty four, to 0:33:49.707 --> 0:33:52.867 forty five, for fifty five and for sixty five all 0:33:52.947 --> 0:33:53.907 at the first attempt. 0:33:54.827 --> 0:33:58.187 Well, I'd heard that Eliza was in really good shape 0:33:58.387 --> 0:34:03.347 and those clearances certainly indicated that. And I think had 0:34:03.427 --> 0:34:07.387 the competition gone on Kennedy, if she had for seventy, 0:34:07.747 --> 0:34:11.467 I definitely think Eliza was in You know, you saw 0:34:11.547 --> 0:34:15.667 her attempt at three, her third attempt at four seventy. 0:34:16.587 --> 0:34:20.307 She's in brilliant shape and brilliant condition. I think that 0:34:20.467 --> 0:34:23.467 she's entering these championships for the first time in a 0:34:23.587 --> 0:34:27.907 long time injury free and got it really showed out there, 0:34:28.187 --> 0:34:31.787 you know her class and her temperament as well. 0:34:32.227 --> 0:34:34.827 When you're watching somebody in the pole vault, I don't know, 0:34:34.947 --> 0:34:36.947 we all just watch it with a sense of wonder 0:34:37.027 --> 0:34:38.787 that they can they can even put all of these 0:34:39.067 --> 0:34:42.307 moving parts together. What do you look for to tell 0:34:42.347 --> 0:34:45.107 you that somebody is pole vaulting really? 0:34:45.187 --> 0:34:47.547 Well, well, it starts with. 0:34:47.587 --> 0:34:50.227 The runner, and so with all the jumps in the 0:34:50.307 --> 0:34:54.667 athletics program, how someone runs really tells you a lot 0:34:54.747 --> 0:34:56.827 about then how they're going to take off, and then 0:34:56.907 --> 0:35:00.467 in the poll, how are they going to invert, how 0:35:00.547 --> 0:35:03.147 they're going to get over the bar, So the way 0:35:03.347 --> 0:35:06.307 they were running, the way they were covering the ground, 0:35:07.347 --> 0:35:11.907 all going forward, so then that they can store that 0:35:12.147 --> 0:35:16.187 kinetic and elastic energy in the poll to really. 0:35:16.227 --> 0:35:17.427 Launch them up and over. 0:35:18.187 --> 0:35:20.827 Many athletes have a steely determination on their face at 0:35:20.827 --> 0:35:22.547 the top of their run up, not just in pole vault, 0:35:22.587 --> 0:35:24.707 but in long jump and really at the start of 0:35:24.747 --> 0:35:28.627 a lot of events. There's a steely determination on athletes faces. 0:35:28.667 --> 0:35:32.307 By contrast, Eliza McCartney has this wide smile at the 0:35:32.427 --> 0:35:34.827 top of hers Do you think that's a deliberate part 0:35:34.907 --> 0:35:35.667 of her routine. 0:35:36.747 --> 0:35:40.027 I think it is now. I think that it's intentional. 0:35:40.507 --> 0:35:43.067 You know, when an athlete is having fun out there, 0:35:43.067 --> 0:35:46.147 and we've seen this across the common mask games, they 0:35:46.227 --> 0:35:51.347 are more inclined to embrace the moment and get out 0:35:51.387 --> 0:35:53.227 there and do their best. I mean the contrast was 0:35:53.307 --> 0:35:57.747 Nina Kennedy's face, which is always like that. Actually she's 0:35:57.787 --> 0:36:00.507 a bit of an assassin Kennedy, but she didn't have 0:36:00.627 --> 0:36:02.227 it today against McCartney. 0:36:02.947 --> 0:36:06.547 Imaginaris takes the bronze. Were you a bit worried when 0:36:06.587 --> 0:36:08.387 she missed her first term at four thirty? 0:36:09.467 --> 0:36:10.787 I was, actually I. 0:36:10.867 --> 0:36:13.707 Was thinking, oh God, please don't do this to us, 0:36:14.307 --> 0:36:17.387 because that's you know, to not clear a height at 0:36:17.427 --> 0:36:20.067 a game is just, you know, a field of vents. 0:36:20.707 --> 0:36:24.507 Well any inventor's worse nightmare. And for her to you know, 0:36:24.787 --> 0:36:27.267 settle the nerves down. She knew she had the height, 0:36:27.427 --> 0:36:29.467 she just needed to tidy up a few factors. And 0:36:29.867 --> 0:36:32.787 in Polville, you know, the margins are just so small, 0:36:32.867 --> 0:36:35.587 so you're off by a fraction and the jump sort 0:36:35.627 --> 0:36:39.227 of unravels itself. And you know, once she got that underway, 0:36:39.307 --> 0:36:42.027 you just saw it, and that your shoulders relaxed a 0:36:42.107 --> 0:36:45.547 little bit and then it was a great four forty 0:36:45.627 --> 0:36:50.027 five clearance and four fifty five clearance at on first attempt. 0:36:50.267 --> 0:36:52.347 Will she be happy with bronze, imaginaris? 0:36:53.747 --> 0:36:57.027 I think she will be because you know, she started 0:36:57.067 --> 0:37:00.227 the year before this year she hadn't jumped over four seventy, 0:37:00.667 --> 0:37:03.347 So I think yes, if you'd asked in the in 0:37:03.467 --> 0:37:07.187 the front half of the year, were her extash's high 0:37:07.387 --> 0:37:11.267 Absolutely in terms of heights. I know that, you know, 0:37:11.587 --> 0:37:17.507 after jumping for eighty one in June that then she 0:37:17.667 --> 0:37:20.227 got you know, had ale of sickness and a few 0:37:20.427 --> 0:37:24.707 other niggles. So I think today she'll be delighted four 0:37:24.827 --> 0:37:29.347 fifty five, you know, bronze in Birmingham, bronze in Glasgow 0:37:29.507 --> 0:37:32.147 and another major championship podium. 0:37:32.827 --> 0:37:34.347 I think I heard you mentioned a couple of times 0:37:34.427 --> 0:37:37.067 here in commentary. Today was the wind and the athletes 0:37:37.107 --> 0:37:39.907 looking over at the windsock to I guess get the 0:37:39.947 --> 0:37:42.427 optimum time to jump. How much of a factor was 0:37:42.507 --> 0:37:43.547 the wind today? 0:37:44.627 --> 0:37:47.347 Well it was huge, that's and that's why we didn't 0:37:47.427 --> 0:37:50.667 see those those great heights that these athletes have all 0:37:50.787 --> 0:37:53.467 jumped this year. I mean Nani Kennedy, she took the 0:37:53.547 --> 0:37:56.907 lives of the Oceana record off her for ninety five 0:37:57.467 --> 0:38:00.787 and to catapult into the sixth best jumper of all time. 0:38:01.307 --> 0:38:04.707 So this is not about a competition where you got 0:38:04.707 --> 0:38:07.227 to do your absolute best when conditions are like this, 0:38:07.427 --> 0:38:10.307 and particularly in the pole vot. The other factor that 0:38:10.627 --> 0:38:14.347 which I didn't mention in commentary was actually that the 0:38:14.467 --> 0:38:17.307 positioning of where they jumped, so the polevot was on 0:38:17.867 --> 0:38:19.947 on what we say in athletics on the d so 0:38:20.427 --> 0:38:23.067 on the curve as opposed to being on the straight, 0:38:23.187 --> 0:38:25.707 and that adds an extra element as well. You've got 0:38:26.027 --> 0:38:28.267 you know, there was races going on. They had to 0:38:28.347 --> 0:38:33.507 pause for metal ceremonies so that the height reflects the conditions. 0:38:34.507 --> 0:38:39.227 But they were able to handle the championship element of 0:38:39.387 --> 0:38:40.987 this competition very well. 0:38:41.187 --> 0:38:43.667 All right, So golden bronze and the women's pole vault 0:38:43.667 --> 0:38:46.267 still to come. Some key we interest in the track 0:38:46.347 --> 0:38:49.027 and field Ethan Olivia men's triple jump tonight, a couple 0:38:49.027 --> 0:38:51.427 of keys in the men's pole vault Tory Morby and 0:38:51.507 --> 0:38:54.427 the women's javelin sam Tana and the men's mile. What 0:38:54.667 --> 0:38:56.987 chance here we see a couple more medals? 0:38:57.027 --> 0:39:01.547 Perhaps I think that certainly in the field, and you 0:39:01.707 --> 0:39:04.147 never know. With the men's mile, it will be run 0:39:04.507 --> 0:39:07.307 very fast, I would say. And Josh, you know after 0:39:07.667 --> 0:39:11.387 you know, only setting the world record in the mile, 0:39:11.507 --> 0:39:13.267 and if you saw him in the heat, how teg 0:39:13.427 --> 0:39:15.827 he was, you know, trying to get his home crowd. 0:39:16.267 --> 0:39:21.907 The Scotsman get up for these gentlemen doing their qualifying race, 0:39:22.027 --> 0:39:24.267 So that will be hot. If Tann is in a 0:39:24.347 --> 0:39:26.867 good position, you never know what's going to happen. But 0:39:26.987 --> 0:39:31.107 I'm calling the triple jump tonight and then the javelin 0:39:31.147 --> 0:39:32.187 in the morning, and then. 0:39:32.147 --> 0:39:32.827 The pole vault. 0:39:33.947 --> 0:39:36.067 In the pole volt I would say, could be a 0:39:36.147 --> 0:39:39.627 cheeky bronze potentially, Again it will come down to strategy 0:39:40.107 --> 0:39:44.067 and the conditions and the javelin. Tory Morby, if she 0:39:44.187 --> 0:39:46.947 can get one over around sixty meters, she'll be in 0:39:46.987 --> 0:39:50.467 the mixer. And in the triple jump tonight. Ethan Olivia, 0:39:50.507 --> 0:39:53.267 who's one of the real talents of this team in 0:39:53.427 --> 0:39:56.827 terms of potential for the future. Will junior champion in 0:39:56.907 --> 0:40:01.587 this event. I think high sixteen to seventeen will be 0:40:01.667 --> 0:40:05.667 on the podium. That's definitely in his wheelhouse. But again, 0:40:06.107 --> 0:40:09.267 just like the pole vault, the wind conditions in the 0:40:09.387 --> 0:40:13.427 stadium will certainly be a factor in that trouble jump final. 0:40:13.547 --> 0:40:15.507 No, look forward to watching all of those keys in action. 0:40:15.627 --> 0:40:18.067 Just before you go, a word on Zoe Hobbs, who 0:40:18.107 --> 0:40:21.667 you know so well. Gee, what a moment for her? 0:40:21.987 --> 0:40:24.987 How significant is her? Is her one hundred meter gold? 0:40:25.947 --> 0:40:29.667 It is phenomenal Piney and Bosh even a few days later, 0:40:30.027 --> 0:40:32.827 makes me emotional just that you're with your intro there 0:40:32.907 --> 0:40:35.347 to her. I mean, what a gold. I think that 0:40:36.067 --> 0:40:39.227 it's captured New Zealand, which is wonderful to see. And 0:40:39.507 --> 0:40:42.827 you know, lots of people are talking about it that 0:40:42.987 --> 0:40:47.227 would never talk about sprinting before. And when you think 0:40:47.267 --> 0:40:49.347 about it, you know, out of all events at the 0:40:49.387 --> 0:40:51.227 Common Mark Games, out of all the sports you do 0:40:51.347 --> 0:40:53.667 in your life, lots of people have run one hundred 0:40:53.667 --> 0:40:55.947 meters at their school at Edicts Day. So it's an 0:40:55.987 --> 0:40:59.467 event we can all you know, have done in our lives. 0:40:59.947 --> 0:41:04.147 And Zoe winning you know, from lane seven in the rain, 0:41:04.587 --> 0:41:08.147 in the time, and the way she executed that race 0:41:09.107 --> 0:41:10.627 absolutely phenomenal. 0:41:10.787 --> 0:41:13.387 Yeah, amazing, Thank you so much, Sarah. Sarah Kelly Ross 0:41:13.427 --> 0:41:15.387 with us on Weekend Sports six and a half to one. 0:41:15.467 --> 0:41:18.267 Coming up, three to one one o'clock News and then 0:41:18.467 --> 0:41:22.347 joined in studio by Stephen Adams, who is back in 0:41:22.427 --> 0:41:25.907 New Zealand to help launch a brand new initiative alongside 0:41:25.987 --> 0:41:28.667 the Warriors to get more key week kids playing sport. 0:41:28.787 --> 0:41:29.947 Steven Adams after one. 0:41:31.587 --> 0:41:34.827 The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on. 0:41:36.587 --> 0:41:38.427 Head off the field a story. 0:41:38.947 --> 0:41:41.947 It's all on Weekend Sports with Jason Vine and the 0:41:42.107 --> 0:41:46.347 udi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout edition on News Talks MB, 0:41:46.667 --> 0:41:47.707 your home of sport. 0:41:48.467 --> 0:41:51.187 Welcome into News Talks NB and Weekend Sport. I'm Jason Pine. 0:41:51.227 --> 0:41:54.067 Andy McDonald is show producer. We're here till three. It's 0:41:54.147 --> 0:41:57.747 one oh seven. Stephen Adams has spent more than a 0:41:57.867 --> 0:42:03.027 decade forging an outstanding basketball career in the NBA. He 0:42:03.107 --> 0:42:07.387 has become one of our greatest sports people. Impact stretches 0:42:07.427 --> 0:42:12.427 well beyond the basketball court. Through his Pathways trust, he's 0:42:12.587 --> 0:42:15.947 already helped thousands of KIW kids access sport and the 0:42:16.067 --> 0:42:19.187 opportunities that come with it. And now he's teaming up 0:42:19.267 --> 0:42:21.627 with the one New Zealand Warriors on a new initiative 0:42:21.987 --> 0:42:24.787 designed to give even more young New Zealanders the chance 0:42:24.907 --> 0:42:29.187 to play, grow and thrive regardless of the sport they choose. 0:42:29.547 --> 0:42:33.787 It's a partnership built around removing barriers, creating opportunities and 0:42:34.027 --> 0:42:36.507 using the power of sport to make a real difference 0:42:36.947 --> 0:42:39.907 in young lives. Stephen Adams is back in the country 0:42:40.067 --> 0:42:43.427 and joins us on Weekend Sports. Stephen, thanks for popping in. 0:42:43.547 --> 0:42:48.427 Congratulations on this a wonderful initiative. Why was partnering with 0:42:48.587 --> 0:42:50.067 the Warriors the right fit for. 0:42:50.187 --> 0:42:56.627 You because we have a like minded his interest now 0:42:56.787 --> 0:42:59.387 we have similar interests. Just trying to help out the youth, 0:43:00.187 --> 0:43:03.907 starting from grassroots and just yeah, supporting as many kids 0:43:03.947 --> 0:43:06.987 as possible. Again, there's one thing about sport. It teaches 0:43:07.027 --> 0:43:10.187 you a lot about values, and especially the Kiwi values. 0:43:10.667 --> 0:43:13.147 Number one thing that the feedback I get from the 0:43:13.227 --> 0:43:15.347 kids that I fly over to the States is that 0:43:15.387 --> 0:43:18.827 they're very well mannered. They look after their things, you 0:43:18.867 --> 0:43:20.907 know what I mean, and other people's things. And that's 0:43:20.987 --> 0:43:24.987 like the biggest respect that I could get, honestly, because 0:43:24.987 --> 0:43:28.147 it's just it just shows like the character, and I 0:43:28.187 --> 0:43:30.427 think we have a very unique special character in New Zealand. 0:43:30.467 --> 0:43:32.667 We work hard, but then also respect everything. 0:43:32.787 --> 0:43:35.267 You know, and you mentioned the worries there you believe 0:43:35.307 --> 0:43:37.827 they share similar traits in the in the in the 0:43:38.267 --> 0:43:40.227 qualities I guess, and the values that they display. It 0:43:40.307 --> 0:43:41.267 felt like a good fit for you. 0:43:41.587 --> 0:43:44.947 Yeah, because like again, like if if you want to 0:43:44.987 --> 0:43:48.827 pursue sports, then that's cool. That's more up to the individual. 0:43:49.147 --> 0:43:51.827 But the environment that we're setting it just gives the 0:43:51.907 --> 0:43:54.187 opportunity to do that. But if you if you want 0:43:54.187 --> 0:43:56.147 to pivot to something else, that's cool. You will still 0:43:56.187 --> 0:43:58.507 get something from it as well. And just partnering with 0:43:58.627 --> 0:44:01.427 each other, I think this just helps with the outreach 0:44:01.787 --> 0:44:04.667 and bring awareness to what we're doing, because it's really 0:44:04.747 --> 0:44:05.347 cool what we're doing. 0:44:05.387 --> 0:44:05.507 Man. 0:44:05.547 --> 0:44:07.747 Honestly, like I enjoyed every time, and that's why I 0:44:07.787 --> 0:44:09.347 do it every year. It's like one of the most 0:44:09.387 --> 0:44:11.307 exciting times of the year for me, you know, coming 0:44:11.387 --> 0:44:14.827 back seeing the kids and then also just like looking 0:44:14.947 --> 0:44:17.707 back on say some of my first camps. Those kids 0:44:17.747 --> 0:44:20.227 who are at my first camp like ten twelve years ago, 0:44:20.627 --> 0:44:22.747 they're helping out at these camps, you know what I mean, 0:44:22.867 --> 0:44:25.227 and it's just like it's a crazy it's a really 0:44:25.267 --> 0:44:27.347 crazy feeling, but it's awesome that we've been building this 0:44:27.507 --> 0:44:30.507 long and then they're giving back to the next generation. 0:44:30.827 --> 0:44:33.427 Love that, man, love that. So, I mean, how important 0:44:33.507 --> 0:44:36.067 is simply getting access to organize sport because that can 0:44:36.107 --> 0:44:38.507 be a challenge for some families. How important is that 0:44:38.907 --> 0:44:41.907 to remove those barriers and make participation possible for as 0:44:41.987 --> 0:44:43.427 many kids as possible. 0:44:43.827 --> 0:44:45.947 Yeah, yeah, no, that's exactly what we work on, men. 0:44:46.027 --> 0:44:48.787 So like obviously help Like my camps are all free. 0:44:49.227 --> 0:44:50.867 Try to make sure we just inject them with like 0:44:50.987 --> 0:44:54.587 free basketballs peril. And then also some of the sponsors 0:44:54.907 --> 0:44:56.867 we had meadow Fresh, so then they get a bunch 0:44:56.907 --> 0:44:58.547 of food, so the parents are happy. They get some 0:44:58.587 --> 0:45:00.387 milk and stuff like this. Very so when they come 0:45:00.427 --> 0:45:02.187 and pick up their kids, they don't have to stop 0:45:02.227 --> 0:45:05.107 into the grocery store or anything. So it's just stuff 0:45:05.147 --> 0:45:07.067 like that, bro, Like you're can access ability is huge. 0:45:07.067 --> 0:45:08.427 But as long as they get the basketball they could 0:45:08.467 --> 0:45:11.627 ribble it around and just participate in sport in general. 0:45:11.867 --> 0:45:13.787 Like awesome, That's that's all that matters. 0:45:14.267 --> 0:45:16.107 You often talk about the people who had belief in 0:45:16.187 --> 0:45:19.027 you when you were growing up. Who were those people 0:45:19.067 --> 0:45:22.267 and how much did they shape the journey that you've taken. 0:45:23.227 --> 0:45:24.547 There was a lot of people. It's hard to list 0:45:24.587 --> 0:45:26.947 all of them. But obviously right now on top of 0:45:26.947 --> 0:45:29.147 the head is like the Kenny McFadden. 0:45:29.387 --> 0:45:29.507 Uh. 0:45:29.827 --> 0:45:33.067 He was like he was like the like the leader 0:45:33.107 --> 0:45:36.067 of the basketball route. But along with that, it's like 0:45:36.187 --> 0:45:37.907 in terms of like character and stuff like that, it 0:45:37.987 --> 0:45:41.187 was a Kenny also. But then also my family blossom, 0:45:41.547 --> 0:45:44.747 she was with me in Wellington, my friends, and you know, 0:45:44.947 --> 0:45:47.427 just everyone in their basketball community, like everyone, everyone had 0:45:47.467 --> 0:45:50.067 their had their part in my life. And they're not 0:45:50.267 --> 0:45:51.667 like all of them are like one to one, like 0:45:51.707 --> 0:45:53.307 you know, I mean, it's not one more than the other, 0:45:53.907 --> 0:45:55.827 but they just all played some sort of role. So 0:45:55.867 --> 0:45:57.667 it's not just me, you know, I mean, it's it's 0:45:57.907 --> 0:46:00.187 it's all of them. They helped me, help me be 0:46:00.387 --> 0:46:00.947 me today. 0:46:01.027 --> 0:46:01.547 That you're. 0:46:04.227 --> 0:46:05.947 So if we look down the track, you know, a 0:46:06.107 --> 0:46:08.587 fan and when this partnership is a success, because it 0:46:08.627 --> 0:46:10.587 will be what would you like to see five or 0:46:10.627 --> 0:46:12.827 ten years down the track, what will success look like 0:46:12.907 --> 0:46:14.667 for this for this initiative. 0:46:15.147 --> 0:46:18.627 Well, the I think what success will look like is 0:46:18.747 --> 0:46:21.907 that we go to the communities, because again this camp 0:46:22.027 --> 0:46:25.747 is just one day in a city. What it'll be 0:46:25.827 --> 0:46:28.187 really cool to say is that they go back to 0:46:28.347 --> 0:46:31.347 their towns or whatever. And then there is a growth 0:46:31.467 --> 0:46:34.987 in basketball participation or sports participation in there because yeah, 0:46:35.027 --> 0:46:36.427 look there's a lot of days of the year, the 0:46:36.507 --> 0:46:39.867 rest of the year that they're still pursuing sport. That'll 0:46:39.907 --> 0:46:41.507 be awesome, you know what I mean, Because that's a 0:46:41.627 --> 0:46:44.067 fertile ecosystem if you will, you know what I mean. 0:46:44.147 --> 0:46:47.387 It's not like I have to constantly inject something. It's 0:46:47.467 --> 0:46:50.027 just come back, you know, once a year or whatever, 0:46:50.427 --> 0:46:53.787 every two years whatever, come in and then they're still growing, 0:46:54.067 --> 0:46:55.307 you know what I mean, and helping out in their 0:46:55.347 --> 0:46:57.267 own way, because it doesn't matter. The scale doesn't matter. 0:46:57.587 --> 0:46:59.067 It's just as long as they're going back. And then 0:46:59.067 --> 0:47:02.387 there's that constant like helping the youth and just bringing 0:47:02.507 --> 0:47:06.267 fun like basketball and values and stuff. That'll be awesome. 0:47:06.907 --> 0:47:09.267 Just on you, Stephen. You had ankle surgery in January, 0:47:09.267 --> 0:47:11.667 Mississian second half of the season with the Rockets. How's 0:47:11.707 --> 0:47:13.627 the rehab? Yeah, looking for Are you going to be 0:47:13.707 --> 0:47:14.547 right for the new season? 0:47:15.147 --> 0:47:15.347 Yeah? 0:47:15.667 --> 0:47:17.867 We're checking that way, bro. It's hard to tell with 0:47:18.027 --> 0:47:21.307 like injuries, especially ankles, like big dudes, you know, like 0:47:21.587 --> 0:47:24.347 it's really tough, like in the books that they write about. Yeah, 0:47:24.547 --> 0:47:26.707 I'm not in there, you know, so it's more like 0:47:26.787 --> 0:47:29.427 the average size dude. So we have to you know, 0:47:29.547 --> 0:47:32.187 make some pivots and all that sort of oh stuff. 0:47:32.347 --> 0:47:34.387 Sorry guys, so all that sort of stuff. So but 0:47:34.587 --> 0:47:37.867 we're tecking well men. Our preseason starts in September, so 0:47:38.387 --> 0:47:42.067 very close. Yeah, we do. It's an exciting here, man, Yeah, 0:47:42.307 --> 0:47:42.547 it is. 0:47:42.627 --> 0:47:45.147 I mean, and for you, I mean over over eight 0:47:45.827 --> 0:47:48.987 eight hundred and fifty regular season and playoff games since 0:47:49.067 --> 0:47:52.027 you first, you know, took that that that first course 0:47:52.067 --> 0:47:54.787 to step into the NBA. How different are you now, 0:47:54.907 --> 0:47:57.787 man from the Steven Adams who made his NBA debut 0:47:57.867 --> 0:47:59.907 for OKC in twenty thirteen. 0:48:00.347 --> 0:48:03.107 Oh just very different. Yeah, just a different human and 0:48:03.267 --> 0:48:06.027 general men, just you know, I mean, like but still 0:48:06.067 --> 0:48:08.827 the same if that makes sense. There's there's there's parts 0:48:08.827 --> 0:48:11.187 that's changed, and you know, you kind of go through 0:48:11.267 --> 0:48:14.147 trial and error so you make some adjustments, but then yeah, 0:48:14.147 --> 0:48:16.707 you kind of still keep to keep to being kiwi, 0:48:16.987 --> 0:48:18.347 you know what I mean, as much as I can, 0:48:18.507 --> 0:48:20.107 I just try and be myself. 0:48:20.787 --> 0:48:22.147 How many more seasons? Sure can you get? 0:48:22.187 --> 0:48:22.227 On? 0:48:22.307 --> 0:48:22.347 You? 0:48:23.107 --> 0:48:24.987 I'll play as long until the wheels fall off, to 0:48:25.027 --> 0:48:27.307 be honest, man, I'll play. I love playing basketball, brother, 0:48:27.467 --> 0:48:30.747 you know, i'd much I'll definitely be super proud if 0:48:30.787 --> 0:48:32.627 I play long enough to see another Kiwi in the 0:48:32.987 --> 0:48:34.707 in the league, you know what I mean, that'll be 0:48:35.027 --> 0:48:35.667 that'll be fun. 0:48:35.827 --> 0:48:37.507 Well, there's a few coming through. I mean that there's 0:48:37.787 --> 0:48:39.627 and I'm sure you've kept tabs on this. There's some 0:48:39.667 --> 0:48:41.627 good young kids coming through the system. I mean, it 0:48:41.747 --> 0:48:43.587 might not be too far away before they do join 0:48:43.627 --> 0:48:45.307 you in the NBA one hundred percent. 0:48:45.427 --> 0:48:48.307 Yeah, there's definitely some talented kids coming through from the Kiwis. 0:48:48.347 --> 0:48:49.587 But what was cool is that, like there's a lot 0:48:49.627 --> 0:48:52.947 of scouts actually looking down to New Zealand now, which 0:48:52.987 --> 0:48:55.587 is which is huge. And so yeah, anyway, we've been 0:48:55.627 --> 0:48:59.227 supporting them and like just about about those kids and 0:48:59.307 --> 0:49:01.867 getting that next generation through even just college broke like 0:49:01.947 --> 0:49:04.667 college and general just getting a scholarship, getting over there, 0:49:04.747 --> 0:49:07.947 get a free degree, all that gets money as well. Sweet, 0:49:08.467 --> 0:49:08.907 all good. 0:49:09.347 --> 0:49:11.587 Just a finish man. I mean, you've inspired so many 0:49:11.667 --> 0:49:14.107 Kiwis through what you've achieved, not just not just Kiwis 0:49:14.147 --> 0:49:16.707 who love the game of basketball, but but Kiwis who 0:49:16.787 --> 0:49:19.787 have a dream. When you talk to kids, what is 0:49:19.827 --> 0:49:22.067 your message to them? If they believe that that dream 0:49:22.147 --> 0:49:23.107 might be out of their reach. 0:49:24.947 --> 0:49:28.347 Well, I think what I've repeated the most is just 0:49:28.507 --> 0:49:31.627 like not like not listen to any of the naysayers. 0:49:32.067 --> 0:49:34.067 It's really tough because I mean I dealt with it too, 0:49:34.347 --> 0:49:35.827 like you know what I mean, just like people just 0:49:35.947 --> 0:49:38.587 doubt you, but like just having that general belief in 0:49:38.627 --> 0:49:43.107 yourself and just dedication, hard work and consistency. I mean, 0:49:43.387 --> 0:49:45.387 you could get you can get everything done, to be honest. 0:49:45.587 --> 0:49:47.107 So as long as you as long as you believe 0:49:47.147 --> 0:49:49.187 in that and you stick by that and not get 0:49:49.467 --> 0:49:51.507 swayed by like oh let's go to a party or 0:49:52.827 --> 0:49:55.067 just crack on, bro, and like all the other stuff 0:49:55.067 --> 0:49:57.547 will still be around, except you'll be a better person. 0:49:57.627 --> 0:49:59.507 You've proved it to yourself, you know what I mean, 0:49:59.547 --> 0:50:02.307 You've worked for like the people who supported you, you 0:50:02.427 --> 0:50:06.027 represented them well, so yeah, you'll be able to be 0:50:06.587 --> 0:50:09.307 be be awesome. You'll be able to be the man. 0:50:10.587 --> 0:50:13.067 This is a fantastic initiative. Congrats on it. Congrats on 0:50:13.147 --> 0:50:14.827 partnering with the one New Zealand Warriors on it. I 0:50:14.907 --> 0:50:17.627 think the benefits are going to be so far reaching. Stephen, 0:50:17.627 --> 0:50:18.987 great to see you, mate, Thanks for stopping it for. 0:50:18.987 --> 0:50:20.107 A chat, chairs mate, Thank you. 0:50:22.467 --> 0:50:25.787 You as well. Good to see if Stephen Adams joining us. 0:50:26.227 --> 0:50:29.587 He's partnered with the One New Zealand Warriors to support 0:50:29.667 --> 0:50:34.627 more Keiwek kids. The Warriors already operate nine academies from 0:50:34.707 --> 0:50:37.947 Fungadai to in for Cargol, eight nationwide camps for female 0:50:37.987 --> 0:50:41.147 athletes as well to provide opportunities for young New Zealanders 0:50:41.227 --> 0:50:45.067 to represent the Warrior's colors. And since twenty fifteen, Steven 0:50:45.067 --> 0:50:47.387 Adams has done the same with those basketball camps he 0:50:47.467 --> 0:50:50.867 was talking about, more than ten thousand Kiwi kids have 0:50:50.947 --> 0:50:52.787 been given the chance to play, to learn and to 0:50:52.947 --> 0:50:57.587 grow free of charge. So both organizations, the Warriors and 0:50:57.747 --> 0:51:00.467 Steven Adams have come together, joining forces to give greater 0:51:00.587 --> 0:51:04.387 exposure and access to sport for young people. Now, the 0:51:04.507 --> 0:51:09.707 fundraising campaign for what the Steven Adams Pathway Foundation is 0:51:09.747 --> 0:51:11.827 going to be launched at the Warrior's home game against 0:51:11.827 --> 0:51:15.267 the Panthers on Friday, so there'll be all sorts of 0:51:15.347 --> 0:51:17.747 touches around that. If you're lucky enough to have a 0:51:17.787 --> 0:51:19.667 ticket to that game, and I know not everybody has, 0:51:19.827 --> 0:51:22.787 but if you are off to go Media Stadium next Friday, 0:51:23.067 --> 0:51:25.187 you'll see a number of special touches around the ground, 0:51:25.547 --> 0:51:29.627 skills challenges, exclusive giveaways, chance to meet Steven Adams who 0:51:29.707 --> 0:51:32.347 was actually going to be there, and you can support 0:51:32.387 --> 0:51:35.787 this campaign. You can make an automatic three dollar donation 0:51:36.027 --> 0:51:40.387 really easily. Just text Stephen it's st e v e 0:51:40.627 --> 0:51:44.747 n Stephen or up the Wars. I think you know 0:51:44.787 --> 0:51:47.667 how to spell that to nine three three to make 0:51:47.667 --> 0:51:50.827 an automatic three dollar donation. So Stephen st e v 0:51:50.947 --> 0:51:53.827 e in or up the Wars or one word to 0:51:53.987 --> 0:51:57.027 nine three three an automatic three dollar donation. What a 0:51:57.947 --> 0:52:00.387 what an initiative of this, Gary, says Jason. Last week 0:52:00.427 --> 0:52:03.827 Stephen had a coaching date at Walton Nash Stadium in 0:52:03.947 --> 0:52:07.667 Lola Hut. It was amazing. Everyone had a huge smile 0:52:07.747 --> 0:52:10.107 on their face when they left. There was a grocery 0:52:10.147 --> 0:52:14.867 parcel and a ball to take home or a fantastic opportunity. Honestly, 0:52:14.947 --> 0:52:17.427 Steven Adams, you know, I'm not sure if you've had 0:52:17.467 --> 0:52:20.467 the opportunity to read his autobiography. It's a really good read. 0:52:21.147 --> 0:52:22.947 But just the way he continues to be a force 0:52:23.027 --> 0:52:25.667 for good using his platform that he has worked so 0:52:25.747 --> 0:52:28.547 hard to create for the benefit of others, and to 0:52:28.667 --> 0:52:32.307 give in particular young Kiwi's the chance to get involved 0:52:32.347 --> 0:52:36.067 in sport. I've been at a couple of those days 0:52:36.107 --> 0:52:40.667 where Steven Adams has you know, has kids along, you know, 0:52:40.787 --> 0:52:44.187 to be part of his camps, and the utter joy 0:52:44.347 --> 0:52:47.387 that he brings. I mean, he is just in the 0:52:47.827 --> 0:52:50.147 you know, in the most positive form of this sentence, 0:52:50.347 --> 0:52:53.067 he is just a big, big kid himself. He clearly 0:52:53.227 --> 0:52:56.187 loves it, loves being out there with the kids, and 0:52:56.307 --> 0:52:58.827 they clearly love it as well. So yeah, up the 0:52:58.867 --> 0:53:01.147 wars or Stephen to nine three three, you'll make it 0:53:01.187 --> 0:53:03.747 automatic three dollar donation. Great to get the chance to 0:53:03.787 --> 0:53:07.267 chat to Steven Adams on his new initiative one nineteen 0:53:07.267 --> 0:53:09.747 Herod News Talks head be got another studio guest after two. 0:53:09.867 --> 0:53:14.267 Actually Stephen Adams has gone now, but Shane Cameron, one 0:53:14.307 --> 0:53:16.427 of our greatest ever boxes is and after two he'll 0:53:16.467 --> 0:53:18.947 be taking the same seat. Actually that Stephen was just 0:53:19.027 --> 0:53:20.987 in to talk about his new book. Next up, though, 0:53:21.027 --> 0:53:24.027 we're going to talk some darts. The Auckland Darts Masters 0:53:24.067 --> 0:53:27.387 are back. They're a fortnight away at Spark Arena and 0:53:27.507 --> 0:53:31.467 among those traveling down from the PDC, Jian von Faine 0:53:31.867 --> 0:53:35.627 Rising Dutch darts player who made the final of the 0:53:35.667 --> 0:53:39.307 World Championship earlier this year at Alexandra Palace season to 0:53:39.387 --> 0:53:41.947 join us for a chat on his career and the 0:53:42.027 --> 0:53:44.787 Auckland Darts Masters when we come back here on Weekend Sport. 0:53:45.307 --> 0:53:49.307 From brilliant victories to battling selections, it's all fair game 0:53:49.547 --> 0:53:53.267 on Weekend Sports with Jason Vine and the aldi Q 0:53:53.467 --> 0:53:56.867 seven Dynamic Black Runout edition available whilst Dog's. 0:53:56.667 --> 0:54:00.427 Last News Talks v News Talks Heben Weekendsport one twenty two. 0:54:00.747 --> 0:54:05.427 A star studded international lineup featuring world champions, Major winners 0:54:05.747 --> 0:54:09.187 and some of the sports most exciting emerging talent will 0:54:09.227 --> 0:54:12.667 headline the twenty twenty six New Zealand Dance Masters, coming 0:54:12.747 --> 0:54:15.907 up at Spark Arena in Auckland on Friday August fourteen 0:54:16.347 --> 0:54:20.467 and Saturday August fifteen. Eight PDC professionals will take on 0:54:20.507 --> 0:54:23.227 the best players from New Zealand and Australia in front 0:54:23.307 --> 0:54:27.867 of another capacity Auckland crowd, and the international field features 0:54:27.947 --> 0:54:32.427 former world champion Girwin Price, crowd favorite Stephen Bunting, Australian 0:54:32.467 --> 0:54:36.347 number one, Damon Hetter, former Major winner, James Wade, Welsh 0:54:36.507 --> 0:54:41.347 star Johnny Clayton, Northern Ireland sensation, Josh Rock, former European 0:54:41.467 --> 0:54:46.267 champion Ross Smith and rising Dutch star gianfan Faye. It's 0:54:46.307 --> 0:54:50.467 all about Hen van Vey, something you'd have been dreaming out. 0:54:52.267 --> 0:54:59.987 Since he was a Gan Vanvey. He's in the Championship final, pepeats. 0:54:59.507 --> 0:55:03.107 Garry Anderson by six, six to three in what was 0:55:03.187 --> 0:55:05.427 an a solar world of the game. 0:55:05.987 --> 0:55:08.827 What a world championship he had. John von Venders with 0:55:08.987 --> 0:55:12.267 us on Weekend Sport. Thanks for joining us, John, very much. 0:55:12.307 --> 0:55:14.347 Looking forward to having you down here in New Zealand. 0:55:14.427 --> 0:55:16.587 Have you visited New Zealand before? 0:55:17.907 --> 0:55:19.827 No, It's going to be my first time, so I'm 0:55:19.867 --> 0:55:20.547 looking forward to it. 0:55:20.787 --> 0:55:23.907 We're looking forward to having you here as well. Well. 0:55:23.987 --> 0:55:26.467 You're still only in your early twenties, but you've already 0:55:26.747 --> 0:55:30.587 established yourself as one of darts bright young stars. When 0:55:30.667 --> 0:55:33.307 did you first realize that you could make a career 0:55:33.547 --> 0:55:34.187 out of darts? 0:55:35.227 --> 0:55:37.627 Oh, yeah, it was difficult. I think during COVID times. 0:55:37.947 --> 0:55:41.267 I played a lot of darts in yeah, my backroom, 0:55:41.387 --> 0:55:43.507 vial Wakam, I played a lot of online darts, and 0:55:43.587 --> 0:55:46.347 then I played a lot of like PDC talk card 0:55:46.387 --> 0:55:48.947 holders back down who played at fantastic level and I 0:55:48.987 --> 0:55:50.067 gave them really good games. 0:55:50.427 --> 0:55:52.587 So at that moment and I realized, well. 0:55:52.467 --> 0:55:55.227 If I get this into the PDC tournaments and maybe 0:55:55.227 --> 0:55:56.707 I can have a career out of this. And yet 0:55:56.827 --> 0:55:58.627 when I was so fast afterwards, but I think that 0:55:58.787 --> 0:56:00.867 was the first realization when I was like, oh, maybe. 0:56:00.707 --> 0:56:02.347 I can have a good career out of this. 0:56:02.987 --> 0:56:06.947 Every young Dutch player coming through inevitably. As compared to 0:56:07.227 --> 0:56:10.387 Michael van Gowin, is that flattering or is it a 0:56:10.427 --> 0:56:12.707 comparison that you you try to avoid. 0:56:13.867 --> 0:56:15.587 Well, no, it's not something I'm trying to avoid. 0:56:15.627 --> 0:56:17.627 Of course, it's flattering when you get compared to Michael 0:56:17.667 --> 0:56:20.347 Ango and them, but it's also a comparison which you 0:56:20.427 --> 0:56:22.987 are almost never going to win because he's won so 0:56:23.107 --> 0:56:26.907 many tournaments, three will titles or counters of majors. So 0:56:27.027 --> 0:56:28.987 it's even though I'm ahead of him on the world 0:56:29.067 --> 0:56:31.587 ranking right now, I don't see myself ahead of him 0:56:31.627 --> 0:56:35.547 ever because yeah, everything he has done for the game. 0:56:35.587 --> 0:56:37.427 But yeah, of course it's always nice to be compared 0:56:37.467 --> 0:56:39.347 to one of the best players in the sport. 0:56:39.787 --> 0:56:42.747 Your game has developed really quickly over the past couple 0:56:42.827 --> 0:56:45.467 of years. Where do you think the big improvements have 0:56:45.587 --> 0:56:46.307 come in your game. 0:56:47.467 --> 0:56:50.707 I think it's all about experience and also confidence. Yes, 0:56:50.787 --> 0:56:52.787 it's been going so well the last couple of years. 0:56:52.947 --> 0:56:56.107 The first year was always you know, different arenas you're 0:56:56.107 --> 0:56:59.427 playing new players, you're you're getting experience, and then afterwards, 0:56:59.467 --> 0:57:01.707 you once you have those experience, you know what you're 0:57:01.707 --> 0:57:03.547 going to expect on the stages and in front of 0:57:03.587 --> 0:57:05.947 the big crowds, and you know what the players are like. 0:57:06.547 --> 0:57:08.307 You're not playing them for the first time anymore. And 0:57:08.347 --> 0:57:10.387 then you start beating them and you know you can 0:57:10.467 --> 0:57:12.827 beat them. Then afterwards because of your confidence is growing 0:57:12.867 --> 0:57:15.347 and I think once that has clicked for me, it's 0:57:15.467 --> 0:57:16.787 really shut me up the rankings. 0:57:17.227 --> 0:57:20.307 The twenty twenty six World Championship, you went all the 0:57:20.307 --> 0:57:23.467 way to the final, wins over Luke Humphries and Gary 0:57:23.547 --> 0:57:25.987 Anderson among others on the way there. How do you 0:57:26.067 --> 0:57:28.547 reflect back on the World Championships at the start of 0:57:28.587 --> 0:57:29.107 this year. 0:57:29.907 --> 0:57:31.147 Yeah, fantastic, of course. 0:57:31.187 --> 0:57:32.867 You know, going into that tournament, I never won a 0:57:32.907 --> 0:57:35.947 game at Alexandra Pellens there so that was the main 0:57:36.027 --> 0:57:37.867 goal for the tournament. But then as soon as that 0:57:38.027 --> 0:57:40.387 was out of the way, I felt so much relief. 0:57:40.427 --> 0:57:42.547 I was actually enjoying myself up on that stage and 0:57:42.907 --> 0:57:46.387 I didn't feel any pressure whatsoever. So yeah, looking back 0:57:46.387 --> 0:57:48.387 at it now, of course, it was a fantastic tournament 0:57:48.387 --> 0:57:50.187 and I think, really really my breakthrough. 0:57:50.747 --> 0:57:52.747 It looks amazing on television and I know a lot 0:57:52.787 --> 0:57:56.307 of our listeners have visited Alexandra Pellas for the World Champs. 0:57:56.587 --> 0:57:59.427 What is that arena like to walk into and to 0:57:59.627 --> 0:57:59.987 play in? 0:58:01.107 --> 0:58:04.027 Yeah, it's an iconic venue. You know. It's because it's 0:58:04.067 --> 0:58:04.747 on top of the hill. 0:58:04.787 --> 0:58:06.907 So as soon as you drive up the hill, especially 0:58:06.987 --> 0:58:09.027 at night, when you see Alexandra Palace with all this 0:58:09.187 --> 0:58:12.027 lights lit up, I still get goosebumps every time I 0:58:12.147 --> 0:58:12.867 drive up that hill. 0:58:12.907 --> 0:58:14.347 And then as soon as you enter. 0:58:14.427 --> 0:58:16.827 It's especially on stage because it's not as big as 0:58:16.867 --> 0:58:19.547 people may think, so it's very loud in there. The 0:58:19.627 --> 0:58:22.467 crowd are very close to the stage. It's one big 0:58:22.707 --> 0:58:26.627 noise inside the arena. So every time I'm what that stage, 0:58:26.627 --> 0:58:29.667 I'm enjoying myself and it's Yeah, it's always a special feeling. 0:58:29.867 --> 0:58:32.867 Did your performances there, you know, enriching the final earlier 0:58:32.907 --> 0:58:35.107 this year? How much of a boost did that give you? John? 0:58:35.147 --> 0:58:38.907 How much confidence did you gain from thinking to yourself, right, 0:58:38.987 --> 0:58:41.787 I really belong among the best players in the world. 0:58:42.867 --> 0:58:43.747 Yeah, massively. 0:58:43.907 --> 0:58:45.627 Yeah, As I said, I've not won a game there 0:58:45.667 --> 0:58:48.227 before that tournament, so there was always hanging above my 0:58:48.307 --> 0:58:50.107 head like, Okay, he's a good player, but he still 0:58:50.147 --> 0:58:51.707 hasn't done well in the World Championship. 0:58:51.907 --> 0:58:54.387 And as soon as I make that final, those doubts 0:58:54.467 --> 0:58:57.187 were gone. Everyone. Well, yeah, of course it's the biggest 0:58:57.227 --> 0:58:57.827 tournament of them all. 0:58:57.867 --> 0:58:59.747 You put yourself on the map for the whole world, 0:59:00.627 --> 0:59:02.747 and that gave me so much more confidence going into 0:59:03.027 --> 0:59:05.667 twenty twenty six. You know, you being, as you said, 0:59:05.707 --> 0:59:07.907 the likes of Luke Humphreys, Gary Anderson on the biggest 0:59:07.907 --> 0:59:09.627 stage and the biggest tournament of them all, and if 0:59:09.667 --> 0:59:11.547 you can do it there, you can do it everywhere. 0:59:11.627 --> 0:59:14.947 So yeah, that tournament gave me so much more confidence. 0:59:15.107 --> 0:59:17.907 And you're now regularly playing against those sorts of pliers, 0:59:17.947 --> 0:59:20.267 the best players in the world. What do you learn 0:59:20.387 --> 0:59:23.347 from competing against players of that caliber so regularly? 0:59:24.347 --> 0:59:26.347 Yeah, you learn a lot, you know, especially with the 0:59:26.387 --> 0:59:26.867 Premier League. 0:59:26.907 --> 0:59:28.747 As you said when you played the week in, week out, 0:59:28.827 --> 0:59:31.027 you're gonna lose a lot more games so you're gonna 0:59:31.347 --> 0:59:33.787 learn a lot more about yourself and how you take 0:59:33.867 --> 0:59:36.267 those losses, because that's what happens when you play the 0:59:36.347 --> 0:59:38.747 best week in week out, and you can see they 0:59:38.787 --> 0:59:40.867 have done it for years. It's my first year playing 0:59:40.947 --> 0:59:43.107 them week in week out, so you can see what 0:59:43.227 --> 0:59:44.907 it's like and how they deal with it. Maybe you 0:59:44.987 --> 0:59:47.827 can ask for some tips here and there. But I 0:59:47.907 --> 0:59:51.267 think it's been mostly in learning curve about myself this year. 0:59:51.547 --> 0:59:55.867 Is there any plaier you particularly enjoy facing because you 0:59:55.987 --> 0:59:57.307 know they'll bring out the best in you. 0:59:59.907 --> 1:00:00.587 What's the difficut one? 1:00:00.707 --> 1:00:02.907 I always like to play Luke Humphreys, but for myself 1:00:03.427 --> 1:00:06.027 growing up, Gary Anderson was my idol, so I always 1:00:06.107 --> 1:00:08.987 like to play Gary, especially that World's semi final game. 1:00:09.347 --> 1:00:11.107 We were both playing really well and I was I 1:00:11.187 --> 1:00:13.147 think that's my most enjoyable match out of my whole 1:00:13.187 --> 1:00:16.027 career so far, because of yeah, playing my idol on 1:00:16.067 --> 1:00:18.227 the biggest stage, and so yeah, I always like to 1:00:18.227 --> 1:00:18.747 play Gary. 1:00:18.947 --> 1:00:24.067 Wonderful. The margins at the top level are incredibly fine. 1:00:24.427 --> 1:00:27.027 It's the biggest difference do you think between good players 1:00:27.547 --> 1:00:29.987 and great players? Is it the mental side of the game. 1:00:31.507 --> 1:00:33.907 Yeah, that's one of the major aspects of the game. 1:00:34.267 --> 1:00:36.587 As I said, because this year I've played so many games, 1:00:36.587 --> 1:00:37.907 You're going to lose many more games. 1:00:37.947 --> 1:00:40.667 So if you're mentally that strong, you know how to 1:00:40.747 --> 1:00:41.427 take losses. 1:00:41.467 --> 1:00:44.507 And if you keep only thinking about the good times 1:00:44.507 --> 1:00:46.147 that during the match, you could beat anyone. And I 1:00:46.227 --> 1:00:49.347 think that's especially at the at the top end of 1:00:49.467 --> 1:00:51.627 this sport. That's so crucial for your game, because if 1:00:51.627 --> 1:00:54.067 you're mentally not strong enough, you're you're going to crumble 1:00:54.107 --> 1:00:56.507 on the pressure. So yeah, I think the mental aspect 1:00:56.547 --> 1:00:59.507 of the game is something that's maybe even bigger than 1:00:59.547 --> 1:01:00.067 the people think. 1:01:00.587 --> 1:01:02.187 And what are some of the things you've really worked 1:01:02.187 --> 1:01:02.467 hard on? 1:01:02.507 --> 1:01:02.547 Me? 1:01:02.627 --> 1:01:05.187 Everyone talks about your scoring power and it's so impressive, 1:01:05.267 --> 1:01:08.667 but are there other things that you have specifically worked 1:01:08.787 --> 1:01:10.787 the hardest on over the last year or so? 1:01:11.747 --> 1:01:14.227 Yeah, I think my finishing part, because last year my 1:01:14.267 --> 1:01:15.227 finishing was really good. 1:01:16.187 --> 1:01:18.907 Yes, I'm scoring well, but I'm not like Luke Littler, 1:01:18.907 --> 1:01:21.067 for example, you can outscore everyone. I'm not in that 1:01:22.427 --> 1:01:24.507 like that region at the moment, but I know I 1:01:24.547 --> 1:01:26.787 can out finish anyone. And if I take all my 1:01:26.827 --> 1:01:29.947 finishes like I've done two weeks ago at the world matchpeed, 1:01:30.027 --> 1:01:32.427 I can even with a bit less scoring, I could 1:01:32.427 --> 1:01:34.627 still get to the semifinals, for example. So I think 1:01:35.067 --> 1:01:37.227 that's an aspect of my game I've really focused on, 1:01:37.347 --> 1:01:39.347 and I think that's working. 1:01:39.307 --> 1:01:40.747 Very well for me so far. Do you have a 1:01:40.787 --> 1:01:41.507 favorite double? 1:01:42.867 --> 1:01:44.507 Double sixteen? That's my favorite double? 1:01:44.627 --> 1:01:44.827 Yeah. 1:01:45.067 --> 1:01:47.347 I think a lot of people would say the same thing. Yes, 1:01:48.267 --> 1:01:51.267 it seems to be a favorite. We see you walk out, Jian. 1:01:51.427 --> 1:01:54.347 You know, that's the first time we see you when 1:01:54.627 --> 1:01:56.947 or any of the players, is when you walk out. 1:01:57.187 --> 1:01:59.987 What about before that? What is your pre walkout routine? 1:02:00.067 --> 1:02:02.267 Do you listen to music? Do you like to stay relaxed? 1:02:02.347 --> 1:02:04.627 What do you do before you walk into those those 1:02:04.667 --> 1:02:05.347 big arenas? 1:02:06.827 --> 1:02:08.507 Mostly I start trying to say relaxed. 1:02:08.587 --> 1:02:10.707 I pract for about two and a half hours before 1:02:10.787 --> 1:02:13.187 my game, especially with all the players, we'd like to 1:02:13.307 --> 1:02:15.707 joke around for a little bit. But as soon as that, yeah, 1:02:15.747 --> 1:02:17.587 you get close to the game, like thirty or twenty 1:02:17.627 --> 1:02:21.307 minutes before your game, I put my headphones in, get 1:02:21.347 --> 1:02:23.267 some music on. I listened to some good music to 1:02:23.307 --> 1:02:26.027 get me in the good vibe and then in a yeah, 1:02:26.107 --> 1:02:28.867 emotional headspace, and then I'm ready for the game, get 1:02:28.947 --> 1:02:31.947 focused in and then yeah, and then it's getting onto 1:02:31.987 --> 1:02:33.027 the stage of course, all. 1:02:32.987 --> 1:02:34.907 Right, and we're looking forward as a side of seeing 1:02:34.947 --> 1:02:37.787 you here in New Zealand. I guess the feature of 1:02:37.867 --> 1:02:40.907 these tournaments is that is that our local players, our 1:02:40.947 --> 1:02:43.747 best players, get a shot at the world's beast. How 1:02:43.867 --> 1:02:45.627 dangerous can those matches be for you? 1:02:47.067 --> 1:02:49.107 Very dangerous? Yeah, you've seen it in the past. There's 1:02:49.107 --> 1:02:51.347 a lot of good players from the likes of New. 1:02:51.307 --> 1:02:54.867 Zealand, barsso Australia, So it's I'm very excited to going 1:02:54.947 --> 1:02:57.987 out there spend some time in the lovely country in 1:02:57.987 --> 1:03:00.307 New Zealand. But yeah, of course the players are are 1:03:00.387 --> 1:03:01.947 fantastic there as well, and I think it's a good 1:03:01.987 --> 1:03:04.627 opportunity for them to show the work what they're capable of. 1:03:06.427 --> 1:03:08.187 But yeah, of course the PDCA are going to be 1:03:08.227 --> 1:03:08.707 the favorite. 1:03:08.707 --> 1:03:10.707 But if we're not playing at our full hundred percent, 1:03:11.227 --> 1:03:14.427 then we can be in for some real danger because 1:03:14.467 --> 1:03:15.707 they are capable of vetting us. 1:03:16.027 --> 1:03:18.067 We're really looking forward to having you down here in 1:03:18.147 --> 1:03:21.747 New Zealand. John, all the best as you travel down. 1:03:21.787 --> 1:03:23.347 We look forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks. 1:03:23.347 --> 1:03:25.747 Thanks for taking the time for a chat today, No problem, 1:03:25.827 --> 1:03:27.667 thank you very much, No, thank you for joining us. 1:03:27.707 --> 1:03:31.987 John John fun Fayne there a Dutch rising star and 1:03:32.387 --> 1:03:34.507 as I say, rising's probably not the right word. He 1:03:34.587 --> 1:03:38.467 made the World Championship final against Luke Littler earlier this 1:03:38.627 --> 1:03:42.427 year at the World Championships at Alexandra Palace. He's one 1:03:42.507 --> 1:03:45.747 of eight PDC professionals so going to be here. Gwin Price, 1:03:46.147 --> 1:03:50.507 Stephen Bunting, Damon Hetter, James Wade, Johnny Clayton, Josh Rock, 1:03:50.747 --> 1:03:53.067 Ross Smith and John vun Fayne are going to be 1:03:53.147 --> 1:03:55.747 there at the New Zealand Darts Masters Spark Arena in 1:03:55.787 --> 1:03:59.467 Auckland on Friday August fourteen and Saturday August fifteen. Or 1:03:59.587 --> 1:04:02.387 is a great event and the best key we players 1:04:02.387 --> 1:04:04.507 are going to get the chance to lock horns with 1:04:04.587 --> 1:04:09.267 those PDC professionals and perhaps see if they can cause 1:04:09.267 --> 1:04:13.067 an upset on the stage at Spark Arena twenty eight 1:04:13.107 --> 1:04:15.987 away from two. Just back to the Commonwealth Games for 1:04:16.067 --> 1:04:19.227 a sec another big night of action coming. Just having 1:04:19.267 --> 1:04:21.507 a look at what we can look forward to tonight 1:04:21.747 --> 1:04:25.787 and overnight into tomorrow morning. Talking to Sarah Cally Ross's 1:04:25.827 --> 1:04:29.947 last hour about the Gold and bronze for Eliza McCartney 1:04:29.987 --> 1:04:33.347 and Imagenneris and the women's pole vault. She'd identified a 1:04:33.387 --> 1:04:36.587 couple of metal possibilities in the track and field tonight 1:04:37.027 --> 1:04:40.267 and overnight ten past nine. This is all New Zealand times. 1:04:40.307 --> 1:04:42.627 It's easier to do it this way. Ten past nine 1:04:42.627 --> 1:04:46.347 Tonight Ethan Olivier in the men's triple jump that is 1:04:46.387 --> 1:04:49.107 a straight final, so he'll be jumping for a medal 1:04:49.187 --> 1:04:52.947 tonight from just after ten past nine. Then tomorrow morning 1:04:53.027 --> 1:04:57.267 five past six, James Stayin and Nick Southgate take part 1:04:57.387 --> 1:05:01.427 in the men's pole vault, relatively unknown compared to the 1:05:01.627 --> 1:05:05.827 likes of Eliza McCartney, Imageneris, Olivia mctaggett, but James Stain, 1:05:06.467 --> 1:05:08.827 Nick Southgate and the men's pole vault five past six, 1:05:09.427 --> 1:05:13.467 six point thirty five. I think Tory Moreby is a 1:05:13.547 --> 1:05:16.107 real medal chance, and the women's javelin kind of been 1:05:16.187 --> 1:05:19.147 tracking her progress in recent times, and I just wonder 1:05:19.147 --> 1:05:21.907 whether Tory Moreby might be a bit of a smoky 1:05:22.027 --> 1:05:25.267 for a medal in the women's javelin. And then Sam Tanner, 1:05:25.507 --> 1:05:29.947 our man Sam Tanner in the iconic men's mile that 1:05:30.107 --> 1:05:33.067 goes tomorrow morning at five to eight, So seven fifty 1:05:33.107 --> 1:05:36.267 five tomorrow morning, Sam Tanner in the Men's Mile, the 1:05:36.907 --> 1:05:40.067 famous iconic black singlet well. At the top of the show, 1:05:40.147 --> 1:05:43.267 we pointed out that it's fifty years to the day 1:05:43.947 --> 1:05:47.467 since John Walker won his Olympic gold in Montreal in 1:05:47.547 --> 1:05:51.827 nineteen seventy six, fifty years ago. Incredible that flowing blonde 1:05:51.867 --> 1:05:54.907 hair of John Walker's down the home straight with Keith 1:05:54.987 --> 1:05:59.227 Quinn's commentary bringing him home. Sam Tanner Tomorrow morning. Different 1:05:59.347 --> 1:06:03.267 kind of stature. Sam Tanner doesn't have the flowing blonde locks. 1:06:03.747 --> 1:06:06.747 There's the iconic mustache though, so let's so Sam can 1:06:07.227 --> 1:06:10.067 be there or thereabouts and the Men's Mile are the 1:06:10.187 --> 1:06:13.027 kiwis in action in the Silver Ferns played the semi 1:06:13.067 --> 1:06:14.947 finals a night against England. They've been good, haven't they? 1:06:15.227 --> 1:06:18.067 The Silver Ferns, putting all the off field controversy to 1:06:18.187 --> 1:06:21.187 one side and concentrating on the netball in the semis 1:06:21.187 --> 1:06:24.027 against England, Australia, Jamaica and the other semi the medal 1:06:24.067 --> 1:06:27.027 matches tomorrow night on the Bowling Green. The men's pair, 1:06:27.107 --> 1:06:29.467 the Power Men's Pair and the Power of women's pair 1:06:29.907 --> 1:06:33.947 all in action. Judo a number of our judokas are 1:06:34.227 --> 1:06:38.307 on the matt tonight, Joel Robinson, Elliott Connolly, Kuana Christi, 1:06:38.787 --> 1:06:42.307 Moira de Villiers and Noah Wallace and their various weight 1:06:42.587 --> 1:06:47.187 classes they have preliminary bouts and then hopefully into the 1:06:47.267 --> 1:06:51.307 metal fights as well. And on the track cycling, well, 1:06:51.307 --> 1:06:55.027 we've got high hopes again for some of these cyclists. 1:06:55.267 --> 1:06:59.507 Sam Dakin and the men's sprint, George Jackson, Keegan Hornblow 1:06:59.547 --> 1:07:02.627 and Marshall Rwood and the men's ten k scratch race, 1:07:02.707 --> 1:07:05.987 Ali Wallaston, Emily Sherman and Bryani Bortter and the women's 1:07:06.027 --> 1:07:09.907 twenty five k points race, Emmy Emma Foy with Jesse 1:07:10.027 --> 1:07:13.787 Hodges as her pilot in the women's tandem B one 1:07:13.827 --> 1:07:16.667 thousand meter time trial, and Alise Andrews well, you'd have 1:07:16.747 --> 1:07:18.667 to think she's a very good chance of a gold medal. 1:07:18.907 --> 1:07:21.827 Olivia King as well in the women's one thousand meter 1:07:21.987 --> 1:07:25.667 time trial. Those are the kiwis in action tonight and 1:07:25.787 --> 1:07:28.787 heading into tomorrow morning at the Glasgow Commonwealth Games. Will 1:07:28.787 --> 1:07:30.787 certainly keep eyes on that for you right through the 1:07:30.867 --> 1:07:32.467 night and if you don't get the chance to watch 1:07:32.467 --> 1:07:34.627 any of it, then we'll update you as part of 1:07:34.667 --> 1:07:38.827 our News Talk Zibbie Sports bulletins tomorrow morning twenty four 1:07:39.107 --> 1:07:42.787 to two. Wonder how the Commonwealth Games are being received 1:07:42.827 --> 1:07:45.227 in Australia. They just seem to get so many medals, 1:07:45.427 --> 1:07:48.747 don't they, particularly in the pool. There is it getting 1:07:48.787 --> 1:07:50.547 the cut through over there of the likes of a 1:07:50.547 --> 1:07:54.027 World Championship ar and Olympic Games. Probably not, but you'd 1:07:54.067 --> 1:07:56.507 have to think there'd be a degree of celebration on 1:07:56.547 --> 1:07:59.627 the other side of the ditch. Arroustrating correspondent Adam Peacock 1:07:59.667 --> 1:08:01.107 going to join us in just a moment, maybe give 1:08:01.147 --> 1:08:04.467 us some insight into that and other Australian sporting matters 1:08:04.507 --> 1:08:05.067 when we come back. 1:08:05.387 --> 1:08:06.107 I call this hell. 1:08:06.347 --> 1:08:08.707 You see us on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 1:08:08.947 --> 1:08:12.667 Weekend Sports with Jason Vahim and the Audi Q seven 1:08:12.747 --> 1:08:15.627 Dynamic Black runout edition of Vailla will at your local 1:08:15.707 --> 1:08:16.587 Audi dealership. 1:08:16.787 --> 1:08:17.667 News Talks EDB. 1:08:18.307 --> 1:08:20.827 One forty here on News talks 'b but a live 1:08:20.907 --> 1:08:22.907 sport for you this afternoon. We'll keep eyes on it 1:08:22.987 --> 1:08:27.067 for you. The NPC is underway for twenty twenty six. 1:08:27.187 --> 1:08:31.027 A Sea Tasman just getting home against North Harbor last 1:08:31.107 --> 1:08:34.387 night down in Nelson thirty one twenty nine. I thought 1:08:34.627 --> 1:08:36.547 North Harbor might cause an upset down there. Not to 1:08:36.667 --> 1:08:42.267 be Counties Manaco against Taranaki from five past two this afternoon, Southland, Otago, 1:08:42.387 --> 1:08:46.347 Stag Day, Stag Dane and the Cargill. Anybody's heading along 1:08:46.387 --> 1:08:47.627 to that, just drop us a note and let us 1:08:47.667 --> 1:08:49.107 know what the weather's like and how big it's going 1:08:49.187 --> 1:08:52.427 to be. Canterbury Auckland Man talk about rivalries under the 1:08:52.507 --> 1:08:55.067 roof in christ Dues tonight. That game is at ten 1:08:55.187 --> 1:09:00.387 past seven tomorrow, Northland, munawar Tu and Faraday from what 1:09:00.547 --> 1:09:03.747 time's that game? Five past two? And then Wellington against 1:09:03.787 --> 1:09:06.787 Hawks Bay but of a Hurricanes derby there at five 1:09:06.947 --> 1:09:10.747 past five tomorrow afternoon. Let's get you across the Tasman 1:09:10.787 --> 1:09:13.867 though to Australian correspondent Adam Peacock has with us as 1:09:13.987 --> 1:09:17.187 usual on a Saturday, just saying before the breakout about 1:09:17.187 --> 1:09:20.027 the Commonwealth Games, I looked at the medal table. You're 1:09:20.267 --> 1:09:23.227 miles ahead of everybody else on the medal table one 1:09:23.347 --> 1:09:26.787 hundred and twenty eight medals all up, including fifty five 1:09:26.907 --> 1:09:30.107 gold medals. The next best, by the way is seventeen 1:09:30.267 --> 1:09:32.907 gold medals. So you've got three times as many golds 1:09:32.947 --> 1:09:37.267 as anybody else. So are the Commonwealth Games getting any 1:09:37.347 --> 1:09:40.667 sort of cut through, any sort of exposure over there 1:09:40.707 --> 1:09:41.707 in Australia. 1:09:41.867 --> 1:09:45.467 Yeah, not as much as it used to. We're noticing it, 1:09:45.627 --> 1:09:49.747 but it's certainly not at Olympic levels. It's on and like, 1:09:49.867 --> 1:09:52.867 it's on Channel seven over here, so they've obviously gone 1:09:53.027 --> 1:09:55.907 real heavy on it, and other news outlets are covering it. 1:09:56.107 --> 1:09:59.267 But if your busy live like for instance, I've had 1:09:59.307 --> 1:10:02.307 a pretty busy week doing some other stuff and I 1:10:02.387 --> 1:10:07.107 haven't been fully across it, So you can easily not 1:10:07.227 --> 1:10:08.587 be across it if you don't know what I mean. 1:10:08.667 --> 1:10:12.187 It's not like everyone's talking about it, like I felt 1:10:12.227 --> 1:10:14.427 like everyone was talking about the World Cup when the 1:10:14.507 --> 1:10:16.747 Olympics is on. Everyone's talking about the Olympics. Is not 1:10:16.867 --> 1:10:20.267 quite at that level, but nonetheless it's not detracting from 1:10:20.307 --> 1:10:24.107 firstly the performances and the importance of this for our 1:10:24.387 --> 1:10:27.147 younger athletes of getting a crack on the international stage 1:10:27.187 --> 1:10:27.787 for the first time. 1:10:27.947 --> 1:10:30.587 Yeah. I think that resonates over here too. Everybody talked 1:10:30.587 --> 1:10:32.467 about the World Cup when the Olympics are on. You're right, 1:10:32.547 --> 1:10:34.827 the Commonwealth Games are almost sort of happening off to 1:10:34.907 --> 1:10:37.387 one side necessarily, and to be fair, the time's under 1:10:37.387 --> 1:10:38.987 a bit tricky as well, with a lot of stuff 1:10:38.987 --> 1:10:41.147 happening in the middle of the night. But yeah, that 1:10:41.267 --> 1:10:43.107 sort of feels like it is over here. Just on 1:10:43.227 --> 1:10:46.387 your swimmers, though. Goodness may if I hear that bloody 1:10:46.427 --> 1:10:49.427 Australian national anthem one more time at the pool. Thank god, 1:10:49.507 --> 1:10:53.067 the swimming's over. Why, I mean, why are you so 1:10:53.347 --> 1:10:54.107 good in the pool? 1:10:55.467 --> 1:10:56.347 Yeah? I think. 1:10:57.947 --> 1:11:00.027 It's ebbed and flowed, and I think we've just got 1:11:00.067 --> 1:11:03.187 this younger crop supporting what was a very good generation 1:11:03.307 --> 1:11:07.747 of swimmers. There's financial support, It's not huge, but there 1:11:07.827 --> 1:11:11.547 is support for our youngest swimmers coming through. I mean, 1:11:11.827 --> 1:11:14.387 the reason why the American system works so well is 1:11:14.467 --> 1:11:18.547 because they've got college as their development system. We just 1:11:18.627 --> 1:11:23.267 have this halfway where young athletes are happy to balance 1:11:23.427 --> 1:11:28.267 UNI and getting in pool. However many times they do it. 1:11:28.867 --> 1:11:31.987 It's yeah, it's one of those things. It's like ingraining 1:11:32.067 --> 1:11:34.547 our culture that we can swim because we're surrounded by 1:11:34.627 --> 1:11:37.627 ocean and yeah, we're just and there's a lot of 1:11:37.707 --> 1:11:40.187 pools as well. Because it's so warm, we can jump 1:11:40.227 --> 1:11:42.867 in half a year so yeah, all those factors just 1:11:43.027 --> 1:11:45.027 mean that we've got this depth of talent coming through 1:11:45.147 --> 1:11:47.347 and then when they get the coaching structures right, which 1:11:47.387 --> 1:11:49.987 they obviously have, these things happen. 1:11:50.627 --> 1:11:52.827 Let's go to the NRL, where the Roosters are on 1:11:52.907 --> 1:11:54.787 a bit of a charge since they lost to the 1:11:54.867 --> 1:11:57.307 Dolphins quite heavily back on the twelfth of June. I 1:11:57.347 --> 1:12:00.867 think it's six straight winds, including putting eighty two on 1:12:00.987 --> 1:12:03.507 the Cowboys the other night. Are the Roosters sort of 1:12:03.707 --> 1:12:07.067 now almost RL kind of joint favorites I guess with 1:12:07.107 --> 1:12:07.587 the Panthers. 1:12:08.707 --> 1:12:11.147 Yeah, yeah, Penrith have been the front runners all year. Look, 1:12:11.227 --> 1:12:15.787 I asked the question last week, Okay, this week, and 1:12:15.987 --> 1:12:18.467 I think we find out who the second best team 1:12:18.507 --> 1:12:21.987 in the comp is, or who's ranked behind Penrith. I 1:12:22.027 --> 1:12:24.387 don't think we need to even have the weekend to 1:12:25.227 --> 1:12:26.467 get the answer. Give them what I have it on 1:12:26.547 --> 1:12:30.867 Thursday night that was extraordinary. And the Cowboys, you know 1:12:30.947 --> 1:12:32.987 they're not going to finish last. They're going to finish 1:12:33.027 --> 1:12:35.067 nowhere near last. They could finish in the eighth still, 1:12:35.627 --> 1:12:39.347 and that was a mortal destruction of them. It just 1:12:39.427 --> 1:12:42.227 clicked for the Roosters. It showed everything what they've got. 1:12:42.707 --> 1:12:45.667 They've got this attacking flare which is hard to stop. 1:12:45.787 --> 1:12:48.307 So yeah, they end up playing Penrith in the Grand Final. 1:12:48.467 --> 1:12:50.067 That's going to be a really good look because you've 1:12:50.067 --> 1:12:53.987 got two contrasting styles and that was just out of 1:12:54.067 --> 1:12:54.867 this world what they did. 1:12:55.107 --> 1:12:59.107 Yeah, are dismantling, absolute dismantling of the Cowboys. The Warries, 1:12:59.147 --> 1:13:00.787 of course, have a but to say about this. They've 1:13:00.787 --> 1:13:03.507 got the Titans this afternoon. Warriors lost to the Bulldogs 1:13:03.587 --> 1:13:06.627 last week. Titans have got two wins from their last two. Men. Actually, 1:13:06.707 --> 1:13:08.547 reckon the key weis will be okay on the Gold Coast. 1:13:10.907 --> 1:13:14.707 Not entirely convinced. Gold Coast have got better in the 1:13:14.787 --> 1:13:19.187 last month or so. They're playing their best of the season. 1:13:19.347 --> 1:13:23.427 But realistically, if they're going to be a top four side, 1:13:23.427 --> 1:13:25.227 which we all think they are, the Warriors, well they've 1:13:25.347 --> 1:13:27.667 got to take care of this one. So tricky one, 1:13:27.947 --> 1:13:28.427 tricky one. 1:13:28.907 --> 1:13:30.827 Look forward to seeing what Everson the Panthers of course, 1:13:30.867 --> 1:13:34.067 across to go media next Friday night. That'll be a cracker. 1:13:34.147 --> 1:13:37.747 Just before I let you go football. The fallout from 1:13:38.147 --> 1:13:42.347 Gianni Infantino's plan to sell off part of the world 1:13:42.387 --> 1:13:45.907 Cup to private investment has been pretty swift from all 1:13:45.987 --> 1:13:50.067 around the world. What gage you're getting from from Football 1:13:50.107 --> 1:13:53.787 Australia and the wider football and community over there. 1:13:55.667 --> 1:14:00.507 Yeah, it's It's one of those ones where I think 1:14:01.187 --> 1:14:05.987 one man's power and ego has just gone beyond the 1:14:06.107 --> 1:14:10.347 Norse and got carried away and he's been smashed for it. 1:14:10.427 --> 1:14:12.907 And it probably took you ay For to come out 1:14:13.027 --> 1:14:15.387 and slipe him over the head about it and say no, 1:14:15.587 --> 1:14:17.827 that this is not happening, and then the rest to follow. 1:14:17.947 --> 1:14:20.947 Like Infantino, I think has read the room and gone, well, 1:14:20.947 --> 1:14:23.387 I've got immense power here because I don't even need 1:14:23.467 --> 1:14:25.307 you Ah for this. I just need to get the 1:14:25.347 --> 1:14:28.227 majority through of votes of the two hundred and eleven 1:14:28.307 --> 1:14:32.067 to pass this, which is questionable in itself. But the 1:14:32.147 --> 1:14:36.307 AFC have come out and hit hit him back, even 1:14:36.387 --> 1:14:40.907 the region where the World Cup was just held, hit him, 1:14:41.027 --> 1:14:43.667 hit back at him, and he's just totally misread it. 1:14:43.707 --> 1:14:46.147 And yet you know, within twenty four hours you've got that. 1:14:46.587 --> 1:14:46.907 I do know. 1:14:46.987 --> 1:14:49.187 We didn't mean that like little tweets to what we 1:14:49.267 --> 1:14:52.587 were saying. It's like, yeah, come on, man, everyone seeing 1:14:52.627 --> 1:14:56.147 straight through it, and this is what you get when 1:14:56.507 --> 1:14:58.947 you get this immense amount of power and then self 1:14:59.387 --> 1:15:02.747 self belief in a leader that you go and do 1:15:02.947 --> 1:15:05.627 things like this. And this will be a documentary for sure, 1:15:07.147 --> 1:15:12.107 how he's how he's power and level of status has 1:15:12.147 --> 1:15:14.667 grown to the point where he just forgets about reality. 1:15:14.827 --> 1:15:15.787 It's just extraordinary. 1:15:15.987 --> 1:15:16.427 Yeah, it is. 1:15:16.547 --> 1:15:19.507 But reality is now that there must be pressure building 1:15:19.587 --> 1:15:22.547 on him. How is this documentary going to end? Is 1:15:22.587 --> 1:15:25.107 it going to end with the door hitting in on 1:15:25.147 --> 1:15:26.147 the backside on the way out? 1:15:27.027 --> 1:15:29.627 Yeah, I think it does. I don't know exactly how 1:15:29.707 --> 1:15:32.787 at the moment because no one stands against him, but yeah, 1:15:33.427 --> 1:15:37.747 I think an alternative is put up now that the 1:15:37.827 --> 1:15:41.107 hard thing is like, for instance, you're in Oceania OFC 1:15:41.307 --> 1:15:44.987 New Zealand, they can't and Australia was a bit the same. 1:15:45.107 --> 1:15:46.667 We can't just come out and just go no, no, no, 1:15:47.147 --> 1:15:49.787 we're not doing that because we've got an obligation in Australia, 1:15:50.107 --> 1:15:53.107 the stakeholders here in Australia about what does forty minion 1:15:53.147 --> 1:15:55.547 look like. It's supposed to twenty million. We're part of 1:15:55.587 --> 1:15:59.627 the AFC, the OFC, for instance, their Champions League is 1:15:59.667 --> 1:16:05.187 funded by FIFA Panawatu's vote counts as much as France's 1:16:05.227 --> 1:16:09.747 though with FIFA like wonder one. So that's where Infancy 1:16:09.787 --> 1:16:11.467 now is going with this. He knew that he would 1:16:11.467 --> 1:16:14.547 have had massive support with some of the lesser nations 1:16:14.627 --> 1:16:21.627 financially speaking, and unfortunately he's kind of misread the wind 1:16:21.667 --> 1:16:24.747 direction and as said, God hammered for him. 1:16:24.827 --> 1:16:27.987 Yeah, indeed, or I made always good chatting Australian sport 1:16:28.027 --> 1:16:30.067 with her, Thanks for taking the time. Is always has 1:16:30.107 --> 1:16:32.187 the new cricket pod going. I've watched it but during 1:16:32.227 --> 1:16:33.787 the week it looks like you're having fun with it. 1:16:34.987 --> 1:16:38.107 Yeah, yeah, good, one week down. So we'll do a 1:16:38.147 --> 1:16:41.507 couple of episodes a week and it's enjoyable. Actually, not 1:16:41.627 --> 1:16:45.667 that there's a lot to talk about in Australian cricket 1:16:45.667 --> 1:16:47.187 at the moment. Not much is happening, but plenty of 1:16:47.187 --> 1:16:51.467 happening with Kiwi's being Englishmen. Another one. You've given them 1:16:51.507 --> 1:16:51.947 another one? 1:16:52.027 --> 1:16:54.267 Well, I know, yeah, they love their Kiwi's over and 1:16:54.587 --> 1:16:57.267 over in England. Yah, Stephen Fleming the new teast coach 1:16:57.307 --> 1:16:59.307 for England. That'll be an interesting one to keep tabs on. 1:16:59.467 --> 1:17:01.067 Good on yet, I'm always good to chet mate. We'll 1:17:01.067 --> 1:17:02.027 do it again next Saturday. 1:17:02.107 --> 1:17:03.107 Thanks body, Thanks mate. 1:17:03.107 --> 1:17:05.467 That is out of Peacock Air Australian correspondent. He's with 1:17:05.587 --> 1:17:08.747 us around the time every Saturday. A couple of texts 1:17:08.747 --> 1:17:11.827 to get through. Don't forget the Sharks. Yeah, the Sharks. 1:17:11.987 --> 1:17:14.347 The Sharks, they're where are they at the moment? 1:17:14.467 --> 1:17:14.707 Fourth? 1:17:14.827 --> 1:17:16.667 Did I say? They got up to fourth on the ladder? 1:17:17.147 --> 1:17:18.787 Is still to play this weekend? I think they've won 1:17:18.827 --> 1:17:22.107 their last four games. The Sharks here, we shouldn't count 1:17:22.147 --> 1:17:25.107 them out. It's getting quite tight at the top, isn't 1:17:25.107 --> 1:17:27.987 it look at the NROL ladder. We'll talk about this 1:17:28.067 --> 1:17:32.027 more after two. Going to preview the Warriors against the 1:17:32.147 --> 1:17:36.547 Titans with Matt Russell, who's calling the game. Panthers thirty 1:17:36.587 --> 1:17:40.427 four points from eighteen games, Roosters thirty four from nineteen games, 1:17:40.507 --> 1:17:43.107 including their absolute demolition job the other night of the 1:17:43.187 --> 1:17:47.027 Cowboys eighty to twelve. I still couldn't believe that score 1:17:47.067 --> 1:17:48.987 when I wake up on Friday morning and saw at 1:17:49.067 --> 1:17:54.187 eighty two twelve. Warriors thirty points from eighteen games, Sharks 1:17:54.267 --> 1:17:59.227 thirty points from eighteen games, Dolphins thirty points from nineteen games. 1:18:00.187 --> 1:18:04.427 So five teams really in with a shout of the 1:18:04.507 --> 1:18:08.067 top two, then you drop down to the rabbit O's 1:18:08.107 --> 1:18:11.467 twenty six Nights, twenty six are the Night, seventh are 1:18:11.507 --> 1:18:14.907 the Nights are going to make the finals? Eddy, unbelievable 1:18:14.947 --> 1:18:17.427 stuff from your boys. The Bulldogs are on twenty six. 1:18:17.507 --> 1:18:21.227 The Cowboys, despite that hammering, are on twenty six. Then 1:18:21.307 --> 1:18:23.267 see Eagles and then you drop out. Did I see? 1:18:23.307 --> 1:18:25.467 Craig Bellamy said that he is now accepting that the 1:18:25.507 --> 1:18:28.507 Storm won't make the six, won't make the eighth. Yeah, 1:18:28.587 --> 1:18:31.147 bit of a fall from grace for the Storm who 1:18:31.187 --> 1:18:33.747 were always so good. So yeah, the Sharks, I think 1:18:33.747 --> 1:18:37.787 we have to watch them circling around Marsus Piney. What 1:18:37.867 --> 1:18:40.147 about a chocolate fish on the Magpies to beat the 1:18:40.227 --> 1:18:43.107 Wellington line somewhere I must I'll take that bed. I'll 1:18:43.147 --> 1:18:45.387 take that bed. I'll take the bed of the Wellington 1:18:45.467 --> 1:18:48.267 lines to beat Hawk's Bay. Although I do note I 1:18:48.387 --> 1:18:51.347 was looking at the lineups for this game a bit 1:18:51.387 --> 1:18:54.107 of a Hurricane's darby as I say, I do note 1:18:54.107 --> 1:18:57.907 that Harry Godfrey is back, which is great news because 1:18:57.987 --> 1:19:00.587 he missed all of the season, just gone the Super 1:19:00.627 --> 1:19:03.907 season with another injury. Seems to have had terrible luck 1:19:03.947 --> 1:19:06.747 with injuries. Harry Godfrey, but he's in the tea jersey 1:19:06.747 --> 1:19:09.867 tomorrow of Hawk's Bay for our Fuckatava is halfback, So 1:19:09.947 --> 1:19:13.067 the nine ten combo Fuckatava Godfrey. That looks pretty good 1:19:13.107 --> 1:19:15.307 and you know a sprinkling and other Super Rugby players 1:19:15.347 --> 1:19:17.587 through the Hawks bay side. But as there is in 1:19:17.667 --> 1:19:21.067 the in the Wellington Lives lineup, du plus Kalifi is 1:19:21.107 --> 1:19:24.187 there of course co captain Caleb Delaney and other Hurricane 1:19:24.227 --> 1:19:29.667 in the second row Callum Callum Harkin running the cutter, 1:19:30.267 --> 1:19:32.907 played a lot of fullback for the Hurricanes during Super Rugby. 1:19:32.947 --> 1:19:35.227 He's the first five. I'll take the bet mask if 1:19:35.227 --> 1:19:36.507 you want to. If you want to put a chocolate 1:19:36.507 --> 1:19:38.467 fish on it, I'll put a chocolate fish on it. 1:19:41.307 --> 1:19:43.787 Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is our number nine 1:19:43.867 --> 1:19:45.947 two ninety two if you would like to send a 1:19:46.027 --> 1:19:48.027 text back in a second On News Talks EDB. 1:19:48.667 --> 1:19:52.747 The biggest names and sport are here. 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I think back on some of the 1:20:25.587 --> 1:20:28.347 titanic battles that these two teams have had down the years, 1:20:28.387 --> 1:20:33.107 and you gravitate towards that very very famous shield challenge 1:20:34.027 --> 1:20:36.587 with Auckland winning the shield off Canterbury moves at nineteen 1:20:36.747 --> 1:20:41.107 eighty five. From memory, I remember I saw some footage 1:20:41.107 --> 1:20:42.667 of that during the week. I'm not sure what the 1:20:42.747 --> 1:20:46.027 context was, but the crowd just, you know, right up 1:20:46.587 --> 1:20:49.867 on the basically touching the white lines at Lancaster Park 1:20:49.947 --> 1:20:52.387 that day and Auckland up were they about twenty twenty 1:20:52.427 --> 1:20:55.187 four nil up? And then Canterbury came charging back, Auckland 1:20:55.227 --> 1:20:59.867 on the shield, John Kerwin batting it behind that final 1:20:59.987 --> 1:21:01.947 kick I think Wayne Smith would have put up and 1:21:02.227 --> 1:21:04.867 JK goes back and bats it behind you get a 1:21:04.947 --> 1:21:06.707 penalty again she if we did that these days not 1:21:06.827 --> 1:21:08.707 then so Canterbury Auckland to night that's great. If they 1:21:08.747 --> 1:21:12.347 get twenty thousand under the roof outstanding, Canterbury be firm favorites. 1:21:12.347 --> 1:21:14.707 I would imagine to win that game. Look forward to 1:21:14.707 --> 1:21:18.107 seeing how it all plays out. There's this the Warriors year. 1:21:18.467 --> 1:21:20.387 I've heard a lot of people ask, well, at the 1:21:20.547 --> 1:21:23.707 very least you could see out the remainder of the 1:21:23.827 --> 1:21:27.187 season in a brand new one New Zealand Warriors Jersey. 1:21:27.547 --> 1:21:29.307 We've got one to give away and we're doing it 1:21:29.387 --> 1:21:32.707 through our brand new Instagram page. So if you search 1:21:32.787 --> 1:21:37.667 for news Talk ZEDB Sport on Instagram, follow the page 1:21:37.947 --> 1:21:40.627 and then like and comment on the pinned post there 1:21:40.667 --> 1:21:43.347 which has got the one New Zealand Warriors Jersey on it. 1:21:43.387 --> 1:21:48.267 You're in to win news Talk ZEDB Sport on Instagram. 1:21:49.227 --> 1:21:51.627 Just get there. You'll get the latest sport content direct 1:21:51.667 --> 1:21:54.227 to your feed and have the opportunity to win that 1:21:54.907 --> 1:21:57.587 one New Zealand Warriors Jersey. Speaking of which, as I 1:21:57.627 --> 1:22:00.467 mentioned before, Matt Russell's calling the game, well here his 1:22:01.347 --> 1:22:03.547 call of the game a bit later on today from 1:22:03.627 --> 1:22:05.867 five o'clock but he's going to join us next out 1:22:05.907 --> 1:22:08.587 of preview it straight after the two o'clock news though, 1:22:08.627 --> 1:22:13.787 we're joined in studio by one of our great heavyweight boxes, 1:22:14.307 --> 1:22:19.187 Shane Cameron. His is a story of off small beginnings, 1:22:19.187 --> 1:22:22.787 really raised in rural Tenured Otto, just an hour in 1:22:22.907 --> 1:22:24.867 land from Gisbon, but went on to become one of 1:22:24.907 --> 1:22:28.467 our great fighters. His book is out, it's called Mountain 1:22:28.747 --> 1:22:32.587 Warrior available I think available soon actually certainly in the 1:22:32.627 --> 1:22:35.507 next little while. But Shane Cameron going to join us 1:22:35.547 --> 1:22:37.387 in studio for a yan about that and his career 1:22:37.467 --> 1:22:37.907 after two. 1:22:39.267 --> 1:22:43.067 The only place for the big names, the big issues, 1:22:43.427 --> 1:22:47.827 the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on 1:22:47.987 --> 1:22:51.387 Weekend Sports with Jason Vine and the udi Q seven 1:22:51.467 --> 1:22:54.947 Dynamic Black Runout edition on Youth Talks MB, your home 1:22:55.027 --> 1:22:55.547 of sport. 1:22:56.147 --> 1:22:57.987 Hi there, welcome into the show. Welcome back to the show. 1:22:58.027 --> 1:23:00.747 This is Weekend Sport on News TALKSB until three then 1:23:00.867 --> 1:23:04.427 Tim Beverage takes over with the Weekend Collective fathers Our 1:23:04.467 --> 1:23:09.707 Will preview Warriors. Titans also mark one hundred days until 1:23:10.107 --> 1:23:13.547 the one hundred Years of Unity through Sport Festival begins, 1:23:14.587 --> 1:23:17.947 celebrating the connections between New Zealand and India, both on 1:23:17.987 --> 1:23:21.467 the sporting field and elsewhere. Shane Cameron standing by the 1:23:21.547 --> 1:23:23.987 chat to us about his new book as well. You 1:23:24.067 --> 1:23:26.227 can join us anytime you're like eight hundred and eighty 1:23:26.307 --> 1:23:29.547 ten eighty nineteen ninety two on text seven past two. 1:23:29.667 --> 1:23:31.587 As we always do, though, to kick off the two 1:23:31.587 --> 1:23:33.347 o'clock hour, we like to bring you up to date 1:23:33.627 --> 1:23:35.267 with some of the things that might have escaped your 1:23:35.307 --> 1:23:38.187 attention in case you missed. It is what we call it, 1:23:38.267 --> 1:23:40.787 and we start in the NRL where the Dolphins have 1:23:40.907 --> 1:23:44.267 scrapped hard to eventually beat the Dragons. 1:23:44.067 --> 1:23:46.707 Tend to play both teams a little bit out in 1:23:46.707 --> 1:23:49.427 their feet at the moment Marshall kick on the Flagler 1:23:49.747 --> 1:23:51.827 Flegler soft. 1:23:51.587 --> 1:23:53.227 That book straight through the middle. 1:23:55.067 --> 1:23:55.827 That's too easy. 1:23:55.987 --> 1:23:59.267 Twenty eight twenty two. The Dolphins continue to solidify their 1:23:59.347 --> 1:24:02.707 spot in the eighth and the Bulldogs have also crept 1:24:02.787 --> 1:24:04.547 into the playoff positions. 1:24:04.627 --> 1:24:08.787 Oh it opens up here, finishing star Stephen crowding the 1:24:08.907 --> 1:24:12.107 number six? What's there? 1:24:13.347 --> 1:24:16.587 And Hender Breathe come on with the job in this 1:24:16.747 --> 1:24:21.587 second half thirty six twenty two, Continuing Melbourne's Missouri in 1:24:21.747 --> 1:24:25.787 the NPC fins up the Tasman Muckle started this season 1:24:25.827 --> 1:24:27.627 with a hard fought winn at Trafelga Park I. 1:24:27.747 --> 1:24:29.627 Under stand that, can you hear it? 1:24:29.707 --> 1:24:31.827 And it's all of it Missy that made him out 1:24:31.827 --> 1:24:34.387 of it back here nor parlot give him takes. 1:24:34.107 --> 1:24:36.547 Tiant top on bout here he could. 1:24:39.187 --> 1:24:44.427 Shack alive of the mistakes of part on attack. But Tira, Tom, 1:24:45.227 --> 1:24:48.067 tell me if I'm hoover thirty one twenty nine the 1:24:48.227 --> 1:24:51.947 final score over North Harbor and it wasn't just Eliza McCartney. 1:24:52.347 --> 1:24:55.827 Key we gold for Devin Briggs in the Velndrome overnight 1:24:55.907 --> 1:24:58.547 winner of the Power See one to See three one 1:24:58.587 --> 1:25:00.507 thousand meter track time trial. 1:25:01.227 --> 1:25:03.867 One more lup to go and he's gone out over 1:25:03.987 --> 1:25:06.547 a second now surely he can hold on from me, Yeah, 1:25:06.587 --> 1:25:09.507 it's going to be a big fights, super quick start. 1:25:09.627 --> 1:25:12.787 There may be a deceleration. No, it's one point five now, 1:25:12.947 --> 1:25:15.427 so win the final bend. Coming up to the finish line, 1:25:15.707 --> 1:25:17.947 it's Devin Briggs that's going to take the gold battle 1:25:18.347 --> 1:25:19.747 out to one point eight in the end. 1:25:19.867 --> 1:25:22.707 Sensational riot from him. Briggs with the one oh five 1:25:22.827 --> 1:25:24.467 point five to take golf. 1:25:24.707 --> 1:25:28.587 Per one matters in Sports Weekend Sports with Jason Vain 1:25:28.827 --> 1:25:32.387 and the Audi Q seven Dynamic Black Runout Edition available 1:25:32.427 --> 1:25:33.907 at your local Audi dealership. 1:25:34.107 --> 1:25:34.907 News Talks End. 1:25:34.907 --> 1:25:38.587 Be nine past two. Shane Cameron's story is one of 1:25:38.667 --> 1:25:43.307 the great New Zealand sporting journeys. Raised in rural Tinto 1:25:43.507 --> 1:25:46.507 and our Inland from Gisbon, he didn't even take up 1:25:46.547 --> 1:25:49.227 boxing until his late teens, but went on to become 1:25:49.307 --> 1:25:53.627 one of the country's most successful heavyweight fighters. We are 1:25:53.707 --> 1:25:54.627 ready for round. 1:25:54.467 --> 1:25:57.467 Number four, but at W be your Asia Pacific, W 1:25:57.627 --> 1:26:02.547 be your Oriental Tato that champion multi Barry Shan't Cameron is. 1:26:10.827 --> 1:26:11.267 Champion? 1:26:13.747 --> 1:26:28.147 Shap Cavin locked camera, He's the news. Here's a Pacific. 1:26:29.827 --> 1:26:30.267 Champion. 1:26:33.067 --> 1:26:33.267 Yeah. 1:26:33.347 --> 1:26:37.787 Shane Cameron won multiple New Zealand and regional titles, represented 1:26:37.827 --> 1:26:40.347 New Zealand at the Commonwealth Games, shared the ring with 1:26:40.467 --> 1:26:43.987 some of the biggest names in world boxing, and headlines 1:26:44.347 --> 1:26:47.227 the biggest fight in New Zealand boxing history against David 1:26:47.267 --> 1:26:50.427 Tour in two thousand and nine. But the story's about 1:26:50.787 --> 1:26:53.707 much more than what happened inside the ropes. It's one 1:26:53.747 --> 1:26:59.147 of resilience, setbacks, redemption and finding purpose beyond sport. Shane 1:26:59.187 --> 1:27:03.387 has now put it all into a new autobiography, Mountain Warrior, 1:27:03.627 --> 1:27:06.907 which is released this month. It's an honest inflection on 1:27:06.987 --> 1:27:09.787 his life, his career, and all the lessons he's learned 1:27:10.027 --> 1:27:13.187 along the way. Shane Cameron joins us in studio. Great 1:27:13.227 --> 1:27:15.107 to see him. I congratulations on the book. Are you 1:27:15.187 --> 1:27:16.987 happy with the way it's come out? 1:27:17.787 --> 1:27:17.907 Oh? 1:27:18.067 --> 1:27:20.227 Thank you very much mate. After that introduction, I can't 1:27:20.227 --> 1:27:28.467 wait to hear myself speak hey, oh my gosh, yeah, no, mate, yeah, 1:27:28.507 --> 1:27:30.147 I am happy with the book. You're definitely happy with 1:27:30.187 --> 1:27:34.707 the book. And then yeah, yeah, just passing, you know. 1:27:34.827 --> 1:27:36.067 And how am I going to say? 1:27:36.267 --> 1:27:36.467 Really? 1:27:36.547 --> 1:27:38.987 When I when I read the synopsis of the book 1:27:39.187 --> 1:27:41.987 that I didn't really wasn't that not that keen on doing? 1:27:42.027 --> 1:27:43.907 Because I didn't think I was worthy enough of a book. 1:27:44.787 --> 1:27:46.907 And then I read that, I'm like, oh, that's you know, 1:27:47.067 --> 1:27:49.987 so I needed an angle in my head. So as 1:27:50.027 --> 1:27:53.347 to why I would write a book would be to 1:27:53.507 --> 1:27:56.587 help people that would like me, thinking dumbat school, dyslexic, 1:27:57.867 --> 1:28:00.387 where they really struggled. But you know, if you set 1:28:00.387 --> 1:28:02.987 your mind on something and willing to work hard, you 1:28:03.067 --> 1:28:04.107 can achieve anything. 1:28:04.827 --> 1:28:08.147 Your roots are in rural New Zealand and that features strongly, 1:28:08.227 --> 1:28:09.867 particularly in the early part of the story, but right 1:28:09.907 --> 1:28:12.947 throughout the story as well. How much did your upbringing 1:28:13.507 --> 1:28:16.387 shape the fighter and and the man that you've become. 1:28:17.147 --> 1:28:18.987 Yeah, big part of that, mate, I'll tell you what. 1:28:19.107 --> 1:28:20.307 The upbringing, it's. 1:28:21.867 --> 1:28:25.707 Definitely not for the fainthearted, you know, riding the horse 1:28:25.747 --> 1:28:29.107 to school and just the stuff that we did as 1:28:29.107 --> 1:28:30.867 young kids, Me and my brothers. You know, we're all 1:28:31.427 --> 1:28:35.267 tough buggers to mate, all the same. Dad was tough man, so, 1:28:35.427 --> 1:28:37.387 you know, fruit down and for far from the tree. 1:28:37.227 --> 1:28:37.627 A you know. 1:28:38.507 --> 1:28:41.147 So, but no, I love that wouldn't change anything for 1:28:41.267 --> 1:28:41.627 the world. 1:28:41.827 --> 1:28:41.987 You know. 1:28:42.067 --> 1:28:44.587 It was a great upbringing. We left, were left our 1:28:44.627 --> 1:28:48.027 own devices. Mum, she was amazing. 1:28:48.387 --> 1:28:50.667 Just yeah, we just we just left our own devices 1:28:50.667 --> 1:28:52.027 and we just found our way, you know. 1:28:54.147 --> 1:28:55.227 Yeah, you know it was it was. 1:28:55.387 --> 1:28:57.547 It was great, mate, the upbringing. And you know, there's 1:28:57.587 --> 1:28:59.187 a lot in the book. You're you're you'll see and 1:28:59.267 --> 1:29:01.667 go out that kind of happened. Did that happen for real? 1:29:02.267 --> 1:29:04.107 You know, yeah, that happened for real. 1:29:05.107 --> 1:29:07.547 I thought that a few times. I say, I thought that, surely, 1:29:07.667 --> 1:29:09.627 surely there's a bit of there's a bit of GST 1:29:09.827 --> 1:29:13.107 on that, But no, the more I read, the more 1:29:13.147 --> 1:29:14.667 I thought, you know what, he's telling the truth and 1:29:14.747 --> 1:29:17.147 nothing but the truth. The thing that I found really 1:29:17.187 --> 1:29:20.667 interesting is that boxing didn't come into your life until 1:29:20.907 --> 1:29:23.547 like you're late teens. She went to the UK. You 1:29:23.707 --> 1:29:26.147 met the Bogra's family at a at a pub. They 1:29:26.227 --> 1:29:28.467 invited you back for Sunday lunch or something like that 1:29:28.667 --> 1:29:30.987 or dinner. You end up being friends with them. You're 1:29:31.027 --> 1:29:33.187 watching TV at their place and there's boxing on the 1:29:33.267 --> 1:29:34.747 TV and you go, hey, I would mind even to 1:29:34.787 --> 1:29:36.707 go at that? Is that really what happened? 1:29:36.987 --> 1:29:38.547 That's what happened, mate? Oh my god. 1:29:38.587 --> 1:29:41.467 You bring up the Boger's family and what a legend. Yeah, 1:29:41.507 --> 1:29:44.827 the legend family. And that's how that's how it panned out. 1:29:44.867 --> 1:29:44.987 You know. 1:29:45.187 --> 1:29:45.707 I went there. 1:29:45.827 --> 1:29:47.907 I was nineteen years of age watching some boxing on 1:29:48.027 --> 1:29:51.587 TV on a Sunday morning, hungover, and I'm like, oh am, 1:29:51.587 --> 1:29:53.307 I giving that sport to go. You know, I think 1:29:53.347 --> 1:29:55.147 I'll be good at that, you know. And for me, 1:29:55.307 --> 1:29:57.067 I've got a strong mind. When I set my mind 1:29:57.107 --> 1:29:59.547 on something, I will do whatever it takes to try 1:29:59.547 --> 1:30:03.427 and achieve it. Yeah, And that's sort of how it started, mate, 1:30:03.507 --> 1:30:06.267 That's how it started. I didn't have any boxing experience 1:30:06.347 --> 1:30:08.467 apart from maybe having too many beers and thinking I 1:30:08.547 --> 1:30:10.667 was a tough guy and maybe yeah in the pub, 1:30:10.747 --> 1:30:11.067 but other. 1:30:10.987 --> 1:30:12.547 Than that, yeah, I don't recommend doing that. 1:30:12.707 --> 1:30:15.707 But anyway, but then and then so then Peter Bogers, 1:30:15.787 --> 1:30:17.627 who was the Sun yeah and became one of your 1:30:17.667 --> 1:30:21.627 best mates, sits up this boxing ring and you're in 1:30:21.707 --> 1:30:25.027 the front garden and you're sparring. And then and then 1:30:25.227 --> 1:30:28.707 he's inviting guys and to fight you. This is almost 1:30:28.787 --> 1:30:30.187 like fiction, but it's true. 1:30:30.867 --> 1:30:32.027 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:30:32.107 --> 1:30:34.787 So I was in there with Peter sparring and he 1:30:34.947 --> 1:30:36.667 was actually a better than me, and he kept hitting 1:30:36.747 --> 1:30:38.227 me on the nose and I wasn't used to getting 1:30:38.267 --> 1:30:40.387 head on the nose and my note my eyes were watering, 1:30:40.907 --> 1:30:43.747 you know. And at the same time, a forestry truck 1:30:43.787 --> 1:30:46.467 went by with some of the boys they worked at 1:30:46.467 --> 1:30:48.747 the end of the road and they will forestry boys. 1:30:48.787 --> 1:30:50.427 And he stops the truck and he goes, oh, who's 1:30:50.427 --> 1:30:52.947 your toughest guy, And they go, oh, that's old Jimmy. 1:30:52.987 --> 1:30:54.907 He's down in the down at the yard. They go here, 1:30:55.347 --> 1:30:56.947 tell him to come back. Shane wants to fight, and 1:30:57.107 --> 1:30:58.347 I'm looking at them, going, no, I don't want to 1:30:58.347 --> 1:30:58.947 fight anyone. 1:30:59.467 --> 1:30:59.707 Yeah. 1:31:00.307 --> 1:31:01.867 So then they go get him and they come bring 1:31:01.987 --> 1:31:03.947 him back up, and then I bloody, Yeah, I knocked 1:31:03.947 --> 1:31:05.947 two of us front teeth out in the front lawn. 1:31:07.147 --> 1:31:08.747 Yeah, yeah, sorry? 1:31:09.187 --> 1:31:10.387 When did it shame? When did it? 1:31:10.627 --> 1:31:10.747 You know? 1:31:11.067 --> 1:31:13.187 I mean, I don't know. I've never boxed, but it 1:31:13.307 --> 1:31:15.827 feels like it must be quite addictive. When did it 1:31:15.947 --> 1:31:17.787 start to become something that you thought, you know what, 1:31:18.267 --> 1:31:20.427 I want to see how far I can take this? 1:31:21.387 --> 1:31:23.387 Yeah, And that was what my mentality was, and so 1:31:23.467 --> 1:31:24.867 I want to see how far I can take this. 1:31:25.067 --> 1:31:29.747 And it probably wasn't really until I turned professional and 1:31:29.867 --> 1:31:33.187 when I was in Las Vegas, even though I thought 1:31:33.267 --> 1:31:35.587 David to at some point, you know, but like earlier on, 1:31:36.307 --> 1:31:39.227 we were living in the same house and I was 1:31:39.267 --> 1:31:41.707 sparring with I did rounds with David. But then I 1:31:41.747 --> 1:31:44.307 did some rounds with some other world class heavyweights and 1:31:44.387 --> 1:31:46.107 I was matching it with him, and I was doing well. 1:31:46.187 --> 1:31:48.067 I'm going, oh, man, I reckon, I could probably do 1:31:48.227 --> 1:31:50.747 something here, you know. But up until that point, I 1:31:50.787 --> 1:31:52.227 just wanted to see how far I could go. You 1:31:52.267 --> 1:31:56.987 know there was after winning the Commonwealth Games medal, and yeah, 1:31:57.147 --> 1:31:58.787 so it might have been earlier than that, but anyway, 1:31:58.827 --> 1:32:02.227 but my mentality as that anyway, Man, I just got 1:32:02.347 --> 1:32:04.787 to I want to be the best at everything that 1:32:04.867 --> 1:32:07.067 I do, and as Debata will on the best at 1:32:07.107 --> 1:32:09.867 everything I do. But that is my mentality. You know, 1:32:10.067 --> 1:32:12.627 same with business, same same, same same. 1:32:13.267 --> 1:32:16.667 You're spart with Mike Tyson. That in itself, that sentence 1:32:16.747 --> 1:32:17.507 is a great sentence. 1:32:19.147 --> 1:32:19.787 What was he like? 1:32:19.947 --> 1:32:22.107 And did anything surprise you about him as a boxer 1:32:22.187 --> 1:32:23.027 and as a and as a. 1:32:23.067 --> 1:32:25.387 Person as a fighter. 1:32:26.907 --> 1:32:29.627 Yeah, how explosive he was, and how fast and how 1:32:29.827 --> 1:32:33.547 accurate he was. Yeah he punched hard, but you know 1:32:33.787 --> 1:32:38.707 David Ta punches harder. But but yeah, just his ferociousness 1:32:38.907 --> 1:32:42.907 and and yeah, and that was sort of probably coming 1:32:42.987 --> 1:32:45.547 towards the end of his career. And even Jeff Fennick, 1:32:45.667 --> 1:32:48.627 his his coach at the time, he said, he's as 1:32:48.667 --> 1:32:51.787 good as any other heavyweight over over three rounds. You know, 1:32:51.867 --> 1:32:54.547 you get him past three four rounds, you big chance 1:32:54.627 --> 1:32:57.867 you you eat them. And that's sort of what happened 1:32:57.867 --> 1:33:00.947 in his last fight against Kevin McBride. You know, he 1:33:01.067 --> 1:33:03.867 started fast, first two minute rounds. I could just see him. 1:33:03.867 --> 1:33:06.907 He started in a fade and then he just yeah, 1:33:06.907 --> 1:33:10.067 he just bailed out. But great, great experience. 1:33:10.147 --> 1:33:10.307 Man. 1:33:10.467 --> 1:33:12.387 Like you know, I don't think I would have had 1:33:12.467 --> 1:33:14.707 the success of my boxing career if I hadn't done 1:33:14.747 --> 1:33:17.147 that experience of sparring Mike Tyson for two weeks, you know, 1:33:17.187 --> 1:33:19.947 because you have an experience like that. And my mentality 1:33:20.147 --> 1:33:23.307 was when I left that that training camp and I 1:33:23.427 --> 1:33:26.827 come home and I'm thinking, I survived two weeks sparring 1:33:26.867 --> 1:33:29.787 with the baddest man on the planet. I go, well, 1:33:29.867 --> 1:33:31.827 no one really is going to intimidate me after that, 1:33:32.027 --> 1:33:33.987 and no one's really going to skim me after that. 1:33:34.347 --> 1:33:37.907 So then I'm you know, I'm I'm but you still 1:33:37.907 --> 1:33:39.267 got to work hard, you still got to do all 1:33:39.307 --> 1:33:39.547 the things. 1:33:39.587 --> 1:33:41.667 You still got, all the training, you got, all that stuff, 1:33:41.667 --> 1:33:45.987 and that all amounts to just a strong, confident fighter. 1:33:46.307 --> 1:33:49.387 And that's basically what I become, you know, just strong 1:33:49.467 --> 1:33:51.187 confident fighter. And I'm saying I won every fight, but 1:33:51.787 --> 1:33:53.667 I wanted most of them, you know. 1:33:54.507 --> 1:33:57.707 Yeah, the David to a Fight two thousand and nine. 1:33:57.787 --> 1:34:01.187 Obviously a big part of the story was writing about that. 1:34:02.147 --> 1:34:04.067 More difficult than you thought it might be or not. 1:34:05.227 --> 1:34:06.027 Yeah, it's it was. 1:34:06.107 --> 1:34:08.347 It was probably the right time. It was probably the 1:34:08.467 --> 1:34:10.947 right time, you know, and that was probably a reason 1:34:10.987 --> 1:34:13.907 why maybe you know, the right timing for the book maybe, 1:34:14.187 --> 1:34:16.267 but it was you know, there's another reason about that anyway, 1:34:16.307 --> 1:34:19.947 which I might have mentioned. But yeah, I can talk 1:34:19.987 --> 1:34:21.787 about it now, you know, I couldn't talk about it 1:34:21.867 --> 1:34:25.387 for ten teen, twelve years because of just man and 1:34:25.467 --> 1:34:27.147 I think it just I was just thinking the other 1:34:27.227 --> 1:34:29.627 day it was just the magnitude of it, how huge 1:34:29.707 --> 1:34:33.427 the fight was, how big the promotion was, and how 1:34:33.587 --> 1:34:35.907 I talked it up, and how confident I come across 1:34:35.947 --> 1:34:37.947 and you know, and that was genuine. I was confident 1:34:37.987 --> 1:34:41.747 I was going to win the fight. And then it 1:34:42.067 --> 1:34:45.627 finished like that, It finished like that, like I didn't 1:34:45.947 --> 1:34:47.747 even get through, you know, I only just got through 1:34:47.787 --> 1:34:51.467 the first round. Was man, I'm thinking, is that all 1:34:51.547 --> 1:34:51.867 you did? 1:34:51.987 --> 1:34:52.307 Shane? 1:34:52.707 --> 1:34:53.187 Is that all? 1:34:53.267 --> 1:34:53.427 You know? 1:34:53.587 --> 1:34:55.507 I'm just going I'm better than that, you know, I'm 1:34:55.547 --> 1:34:58.747 better than that. But just there was just a man, 1:34:58.787 --> 1:34:59.387 it was it was. 1:35:00.267 --> 1:35:02.267 It was a big learning curve moment, just but just 1:35:02.467 --> 1:35:04.107 one of the and I've done it the fighters, you know, 1:35:04.147 --> 1:35:06.227 I did it to Montebert, the guy who beat David Tour. 1:35:06.627 --> 1:35:07.707 You know, I put them the sleep in. 1:35:07.747 --> 1:35:10.387 Four rounds, and I'm like, I actually felt sorry for him. 1:35:10.387 --> 1:35:13.107 I'm sitting in the changing room and I could visualize 1:35:13.147 --> 1:35:15.667 his changing room. You know, I had feelings for him. 1:35:15.707 --> 1:35:18.227 I think, ah, you know, and that's what happened to 1:35:18.307 --> 1:35:19.667 day too, when he hasn't. 1:35:19.467 --> 1:35:19.947 Done it to me. 1:35:20.307 --> 1:35:23.747 You know, I was mortified. I was depressed, I was sad. 1:35:23.947 --> 1:35:27.667 I was all of those things for a long time. 1:35:28.427 --> 1:35:30.987 But you know, I just my favorite saying, it's not 1:35:31.067 --> 1:35:33.027 how you for, it's how you rise. You know, you 1:35:33.227 --> 1:35:35.707 just got to dust yourself up. You know, I always say, 1:35:35.747 --> 1:35:37.827 and I say that quite a lot. You've got two options. 1:35:38.347 --> 1:35:40.427 You've always got two options. One to keep going, the 1:35:40.467 --> 1:35:42.707 other one to give up. You know, and giving up 1:35:42.827 --> 1:35:44.907 is never an option for me, in business, or in 1:35:45.027 --> 1:35:47.067 life or in sport, as much as you want to 1:35:47.067 --> 1:35:49.187 give up. And sometimes it's easy, because it's easy to 1:35:49.267 --> 1:35:51.387 give up. Anyone can give up, but not anyone can 1:35:51.507 --> 1:35:53.907 keep going and keep fighting, keep pushing forward. And that 1:35:53.987 --> 1:35:55.907 could be you don't have to be a boxer, you know, 1:35:55.987 --> 1:35:58.507 it could be in school, you know, in tough times. 1:35:58.827 --> 1:36:01.227 But that's how you grow as a person with the 1:36:01.347 --> 1:36:04.027 tough times. If you're not pushing yourself out of the 1:36:04.067 --> 1:36:06.507 comfort outside your comfort zone, you're not being challenged. If 1:36:06.667 --> 1:36:08.827 not being challenging, then you're not growing. And if you're 1:36:08.827 --> 1:36:10.507 not growing, oh I don't know where you're going. 1:36:11.787 --> 1:36:15.627 Amazing, amazing. I mean, the book's so honest, man, brutally honest. 1:36:16.227 --> 1:36:18.787 Was there anything that you're wrestled with before deciding that 1:36:18.907 --> 1:36:22.027 you would include it? Yeah? 1:36:23.227 --> 1:36:26.147 Not really, you know, Well, I don't know. I probably 1:36:26.147 --> 1:36:27.827 need to read the book again. I'm short, I got 1:36:27.907 --> 1:36:29.507 a short I got a short term memory. 1:36:29.547 --> 1:36:31.427 Man, I don't really know some of the stuff that 1:36:31.507 --> 1:36:33.387 I said this in the book, but it's all genuine 1:36:33.427 --> 1:36:35.747 and you know, and I'm not a good reader. And 1:36:36.147 --> 1:36:38.547 Steve Kilgallen did a great job of being a ghostwriter 1:36:38.707 --> 1:36:42.747 for the book, and he he pestered me for like 1:36:42.827 --> 1:36:44.667 a month, you know, because it took two years. 1:36:44.467 --> 1:36:46.547 To write the book. And I can't blame it all 1:36:46.667 --> 1:36:47.307 on everyone else. 1:36:47.347 --> 1:36:49.067 I can blame it on myself for probably the first 1:36:49.707 --> 1:36:52.227 probably six weeks, because he sent me the whole draft 1:36:52.267 --> 1:36:53.747 and he goes read it chain and. 1:36:53.867 --> 1:36:56.147 I'm going, oh, that's the worst thing. I can ever 1:36:56.267 --> 1:36:58.267 do read. I'm like, oh my god. 1:36:58.347 --> 1:37:00.107 Then I started reading. I'm going, oh, I just I'm 1:37:00.147 --> 1:37:01.427 getting a headache just looking at it. 1:37:01.947 --> 1:37:02.627 And then I didn't do it. 1:37:02.707 --> 1:37:05.067 He goes, how's the book? And I am started, Man, 1:37:05.107 --> 1:37:09.387 I'm struggling to read it. And then then made Wayne. 1:37:09.987 --> 1:37:12.267 He goes, no, I'll do it in an audio. Hey 1:37:12.387 --> 1:37:12.907 can you do that? 1:37:12.987 --> 1:37:16.027 And he's like a like a tech legend. He goes yeah, 1:37:16.107 --> 1:37:17.387 and he did it in an audio and then it 1:37:17.467 --> 1:37:18.267 just read it back to him. 1:37:18.267 --> 1:37:19.387 I'm going, oh, this is magic. 1:37:19.547 --> 1:37:22.267 Yeah, And within within two days I read go to 1:37:22.307 --> 1:37:23.907 Steve cole gall and I've read it. He goes, no, 1:37:24.067 --> 1:37:26.147 you didn't go yeah, I did the audio read it 1:37:26.227 --> 1:37:29.707 back to me. Yeah, so that's how Yeah, so good man, 1:37:29.947 --> 1:37:30.387 so good. 1:37:30.907 --> 1:37:31.107 Yeah. 1:37:31.147 --> 1:37:32.987 You've said the phrase before, and you use it a 1:37:33.027 --> 1:37:34.467 lot in the book. It's not how you fall, it's 1:37:34.467 --> 1:37:37.707 how you rise. And resilience is clearly something that that is, 1:37:37.907 --> 1:37:40.787 you know, a defining quality in your life. I mean, 1:37:40.787 --> 1:37:44.387 you've built successful businesses since retiring. How challenging has that been? 1:37:44.667 --> 1:37:47.107 I mean, can you compare preparing for a big fight 1:37:47.227 --> 1:37:49.587 with you know, with with the battles and the challenges 1:37:49.627 --> 1:37:51.387 you have in business since you're retired. 1:37:52.267 --> 1:37:55.867 Yeah, yeah, there are, there are challenges, but nothing like 1:37:55.907 --> 1:37:59.147 a challenge and going into a fight and going into 1:37:59.187 --> 1:38:01.867 battle where, man, this is a fight game. You know, 1:38:02.107 --> 1:38:04.987 this is a fight game where you can get seriously hurting, 1:38:05.067 --> 1:38:07.147 you knock the f out, you know, it can be 1:38:07.507 --> 1:38:09.427 not a good night for you and get humbled and 1:38:09.467 --> 1:38:11.387 then all of a sudden you're going to face the media, face, 1:38:11.427 --> 1:38:13.347 the public, face of friends and family. 1:38:13.987 --> 1:38:14.947 You know, all of that stuff. 1:38:14.987 --> 1:38:17.747 So so doing stuff outside my comfort zone outside of boxing, 1:38:17.987 --> 1:38:21.467 it's not too much of an issue, you know, Like 1:38:21.587 --> 1:38:23.587 doing Dancing with the Stars. That was probably the second 1:38:23.667 --> 1:38:26.467 challenging thing that I did that was so tough. I 1:38:26.547 --> 1:38:28.427 don't know how to dance before, and I still don't 1:38:28.467 --> 1:38:31.627 know how to dance Africa because it's all choreographed, you know. 1:38:31.827 --> 1:38:33.227 Bless our narrative courties. 1:38:33.307 --> 1:38:34.427 She did a great job with me. 1:38:35.827 --> 1:38:38.187 The last chapter of the book, it's called Paying the Price, 1:38:38.747 --> 1:38:41.227 talks about the effects of your chosen sport on your 1:38:41.507 --> 1:38:45.387 future well being, specifically your suspicion that you may have CTE, 1:38:45.507 --> 1:38:49.267 which can't be diagnosed until after you die. Yeah, do 1:38:49.347 --> 1:38:51.267 you worry about what the rest of your life will 1:38:51.307 --> 1:38:51.627 be like. 1:38:52.507 --> 1:38:54.667 Yeah, I do sometimes, Yeah, I do. I do at 1:38:54.747 --> 1:38:57.187 times because I do struggle with my memory with short 1:38:57.267 --> 1:39:00.147 term stuff. I know my memory probably wasn't better that 1:39:00.307 --> 1:39:03.907 good when I was younger, but it's hard to compare. 1:39:05.507 --> 1:39:07.627 I have a lot going on, but I'm not trying 1:39:07.627 --> 1:39:12.427 to downgrade it, but like, yeah, but I do feel 1:39:12.547 --> 1:39:14.987 sometimes like a man, I just struggle to remember that 1:39:15.187 --> 1:39:20.027 or or because I'm OCD, so that that helps because 1:39:20.067 --> 1:39:22.547 I put I don't lose stuff, you know, not like 1:39:22.627 --> 1:39:25.027 other people that I know that don't have any having 1:39:25.027 --> 1:39:27.587 any punched in the head ortoever, or they're pretty smart, 1:39:27.627 --> 1:39:29.387 but they still lose a lot of things. So I'm 1:39:29.467 --> 1:39:32.707 quite happy about that that I'm I'm OCD and everything 1:39:32.747 --> 1:39:35.227 has to go into the right place and then everything wherever. 1:39:35.347 --> 1:39:38.267 Yeah, so anyway, you know what I mean. But yeah, 1:39:38.387 --> 1:39:41.787 so hopefully nothing comes of it any any bad. 1:39:41.867 --> 1:39:44.587 But I know, you know, being punched in the head, 1:39:44.827 --> 1:39:47.947 you know by some you know, for seventeen years, it's 1:39:47.987 --> 1:39:50.827 got to take us told at some point maybe hopefully not, 1:39:50.947 --> 1:39:53.547 but yeah, well just worry about that when when that 1:39:53.627 --> 1:39:54.067 comes to it. 1:39:54.187 --> 1:39:55.547 I did see a professional about it. 1:39:55.627 --> 1:39:57.467 I've seen a few professionals, but I did want to 1:39:57.747 --> 1:40:00.547 see a professional last year and I wanted just to see, 1:40:00.787 --> 1:40:04.347 you know, and she just didn't worry me about anything. 1:40:04.427 --> 1:40:07.827 She just goes, just live healthy lifestyle, do lots of training, 1:40:07.907 --> 1:40:10.027 and just do she goes. You can't focus on what 1:40:10.147 --> 1:40:12.027 if some this could happen and that could happen. 1:40:12.947 --> 1:40:13.587 So that's what I do. 1:40:13.827 --> 1:40:15.907 I just do that stuff and that's my lifestyle. I 1:40:15.947 --> 1:40:20.067 love my fitness, my health and well being and and 1:40:21.147 --> 1:40:22.787 and the outdoors, and that's that's what I do. And 1:40:23.027 --> 1:40:24.827 just and what will be what will be. 1:40:25.107 --> 1:40:27.107 And then that's it. 1:40:27.587 --> 1:40:30.467 Yeah, it's a great attitude, mate. Just to finish. When 1:40:30.507 --> 1:40:33.787 people finish reading this book Mountain Warrior, what do you 1:40:33.827 --> 1:40:36.147 hope that they remember most? Do they do? You do 1:40:36.267 --> 1:40:40.147 you hope that they remember Shane Cameron the boxer or 1:40:40.307 --> 1:40:41.947 the man behind the box and gloves. 1:40:44.107 --> 1:40:45.987 I just want to people to read the book and 1:40:46.067 --> 1:40:46.507 then just go. 1:40:46.667 --> 1:40:46.827 Man. 1:40:46.947 --> 1:40:49.627 You know, you can achieve whatever you want to achieve 1:40:49.747 --> 1:40:50.987 if you just sit in your mind to it. 1:40:51.347 --> 1:40:51.547 You know. 1:40:52.387 --> 1:40:56.467 That's that's it, you know, because that's how I got 1:40:56.507 --> 1:41:00.387 my success, by surrounding myself with good people and just 1:41:00.467 --> 1:41:03.307 working hard, you know, because I didn't have an education, 1:41:03.507 --> 1:41:05.507 but I just worked hard and just found my way. 1:41:06.427 --> 1:41:07.947 And there's always a way, and you find your way 1:41:07.947 --> 1:41:09.787 and you just be surprised what you can achieve. You 1:41:09.827 --> 1:41:11.627 can be unstoppable if you see your mind to it. 1:41:12.587 --> 1:41:15.467 It's a great book, Shane. I absolutely loved reading it. 1:41:15.627 --> 1:41:17.907 Found out a lot about you, learned a lot and 1:41:18.027 --> 1:41:21.947 some great messaging for boxing fans and for human beings. 1:41:22.067 --> 1:41:25.587 Shane Cameron Mountain Warrior with Steve Kilgallen. It's available very 1:41:25.707 --> 1:41:27.667 very soon. Thanks for stopping and mate, great to get 1:41:27.667 --> 1:41:28.427 the chance to chet. 1:41:28.267 --> 1:41:29.427 To you appreciate it. 1:41:29.507 --> 1:41:32.587 Thank you, no, thank you. Shane Cameron there joining us 1:41:32.627 --> 1:41:35.387 in the ZB studio. Check it out. Mountain Warrior on 1:41:35.627 --> 1:41:38.787 salette at all the normal places soon to twenty five 1:41:38.867 --> 1:41:42.467 take Away, come Back and then preview Warriors Titans five 1:41:42.467 --> 1:41:43.867 o'clock this afternoon. 1:41:44.267 --> 1:41:48.307 From Grassroots to the grand Stand. Weekends Force with Jason 1:41:48.387 --> 1:41:51.707 Vine and the aldi Q seven Dynamic Black runout edition 1:41:51.867 --> 1:41:56.347 from one eight hundred eighty News Talks. 1:41:56.267 --> 1:41:59.587 V to twenty eight. The Warrior's Face a big test 1:41:59.707 --> 1:42:02.307 This afternoon. They head to the Gold Coast to take 1:42:02.387 --> 1:42:04.827 on a Titan's side that suddenly found a bit of 1:42:04.867 --> 1:42:08.027 confidence back to back wins for the Titans. The Warriors, 1:42:08.067 --> 1:42:10.387 on the other hand, looking to bounce back after a 1:42:10.587 --> 1:42:17.507 disappointing outing last week. That the have done it again 1:42:19.147 --> 1:42:20.947 the Blue and White of Jennifury. 1:42:21.667 --> 1:42:25.867 I'm making a finals run full time at a Corps 1:42:26.347 --> 1:42:29.427 Jannebury eighteen the Warriors six. 1:42:29.547 --> 1:42:32.227 Five o'clock kickoff this afternoon. That's New Zealand time. One 1:42:32.267 --> 1:42:34.667 of the best callers in the business, Matt Russell, is 1:42:34.867 --> 1:42:36.947 on the mic for this one. He joins us. Now 1:42:37.147 --> 1:42:39.627 I'm looking at the table, I'm looking at the season, Matt, 1:42:39.787 --> 1:42:43.667 and how important this game is in terms of the 1:42:43.827 --> 1:42:46.467 context of the Warriors season in their charge to the 1:42:46.547 --> 1:42:49.307 top two and top four. Does it have a bit 1:42:49.347 --> 1:42:50.867 of a must win feel about it? 1:42:51.907 --> 1:42:54.347 The ladder will tell you it's not must win, won't it. 1:42:54.387 --> 1:42:56.467 But I sort of feel like they need a big 1:42:56.627 --> 1:42:59.387 left at the moment the Warriors. We know that last 1:42:59.507 --> 1:43:01.627 year and in other seasons when it's come to this 1:43:01.787 --> 1:43:04.307 pointy end of the campaign, they just haven't lacked that 1:43:05.107 --> 1:43:07.587 punch that's required to really bed down a top two 1:43:07.747 --> 1:43:10.947 or top four finish. Well. This year, that chance is 1:43:11.067 --> 1:43:13.387 there again and they're going to be walking into quite 1:43:13.427 --> 1:43:16.707 the atmosphere today. General admission tickets are sold out. There's 1:43:16.747 --> 1:43:19.947 a big tea week intingents out East Queensland. Many of 1:43:20.067 --> 1:43:22.907 them will be at Seabar Superstadium, So I sort of 1:43:22.907 --> 1:43:25.107 feel that even though the Warriors are on the road today, 1:43:25.667 --> 1:43:29.267 they might even have the majority of support inside the venue. 1:43:29.387 --> 1:43:32.467 So if fat to be a genuine top four, top 1:43:32.547 --> 1:43:35.467 two team, I think, given what's gone on this season, 1:43:35.507 --> 1:43:38.427 they must be beating the Gold Coast today. So short 1:43:38.467 --> 1:43:41.227 answer you the question, it's huge for Andrew Webster's team. 1:43:41.427 --> 1:43:43.587 Yeah, for you keep us on the Gold Coast. So yeah, 1:43:43.627 --> 1:43:45.907 look looking forward to seeing a few Warriors jerseys in 1:43:45.987 --> 1:43:48.987 the crowd this afternoon. Last week's lost to the Bulldogs 1:43:49.267 --> 1:43:51.987 bit of a reality check. What will Andrew Webster have 1:43:52.107 --> 1:43:54.267 demanded most from his side during the week and the 1:43:54.347 --> 1:43:55.067 lead up to this one? 1:43:55.627 --> 1:43:57.827 I think to stay calm and to ignore voices like 1:43:57.947 --> 1:44:01.027 mine saying come on, Warrior show, it's the best put 1:44:01.107 --> 1:44:04.747 it forward now. But what he will absolutely want to 1:44:04.827 --> 1:44:08.947 bet down is a defensive application that served them well 1:44:09.027 --> 1:44:11.547 to start the season, because let me tell you, Gold 1:44:11.627 --> 1:44:13.827 Coast are dangerous right now. That one two in a 1:44:13.987 --> 1:44:17.707 row and this spine playing under Josh Hannah, the first 1:44:17.827 --> 1:44:21.427 year NRL coach, has been fantastic in recent weeks. Count 1:44:21.467 --> 1:44:24.707 O Kinney at the back has been dynamic, Rookie Olie 1:44:24.747 --> 1:44:27.307 Pasco has been a fine there and dummy half and 1:44:27.427 --> 1:44:30.747 we know the halves young Zane Harris and jumping out 1:44:30.787 --> 1:44:33.027 of the ground and Jaden Campbell he's fully resistible. So 1:44:33.107 --> 1:44:36.027 there's a one six seventy nine that is creating and 1:44:36.187 --> 1:44:39.827 doing damage and certainly is good enough to upset the Warriors. 1:44:39.907 --> 1:44:43.107 So I'm sure it all starts defensively for the Warriors. 1:44:43.147 --> 1:44:45.227 Let's roll your sleeves up and see if you can 1:44:45.747 --> 1:44:47.947 find the same defensive application we've seen. 1:44:47.867 --> 1:44:50.627 Earlier this season one sixty seven nine. It's such an 1:44:50.627 --> 1:44:53.627 important spine, isn't it. Luke Metcalf Matt there's so much 1:44:53.667 --> 1:44:56.147 talk about him over here, hasn't yet got another opportunity 1:44:56.187 --> 1:44:59.187 at first grade. What's your view on this? Mate? Should 1:44:59.187 --> 1:45:01.427 Andrew Webster go to Luke Metcalf. 1:45:02.467 --> 1:45:05.027 Well, let's paint the picture. First, he had naciel injury 1:45:05.067 --> 1:45:08.107 that saw him return after the first few rounds this year, 1:45:08.467 --> 1:45:11.507 then picked up a hamstring injury. By memory, it was 1:45:11.547 --> 1:45:15.707 against the Sharks in Cronulla earlier this season and hasn't 1:45:15.707 --> 1:45:16.907 played NRL since. 1:45:17.307 --> 1:45:17.467 Now. 1:45:17.467 --> 1:45:21.667 I've been asked this a lot, and the Warriors our 1:45:21.787 --> 1:45:24.827 top four for a reason because Tomorrow Martin and Janelle 1:45:24.867 --> 1:45:29.427 Harris Aviva have been fantastic in the jumpers six and seven. 1:45:29.547 --> 1:45:29.667 Now. 1:45:29.947 --> 1:45:32.347 It is unfortunate for Luke Metcalf, who is an NRL 1:45:32.427 --> 1:45:35.307 player every day of the week right But when the 1:45:35.387 --> 1:45:38.547 Warriors are winning and they're at the right end of 1:45:38.587 --> 1:45:43.107 the table, what justifies Andrew Webster making the change? If 1:45:43.147 --> 1:45:47.347 they are delivering and they have. I've praised those halves reputedly, 1:45:47.467 --> 1:45:51.107 not just for their on ball for but also defensively. 1:45:51.427 --> 1:45:56.027 I think they're underestimated defenders. So it's a comfortable position 1:45:56.147 --> 1:45:58.067 for coach Webbs to the being to know that if 1:45:58.107 --> 1:46:01.347 there is a hiccup, if there's a suspension or an injury, 1:46:01.827 --> 1:46:04.547 then Luke Metcalff comes straight back in. But at the 1:46:04.587 --> 1:46:10.027 same time, none of the defeat, certainly successive weekends have 1:46:10.107 --> 1:46:11.907 been diabolical enough for him that so I want to 1:46:11.987 --> 1:46:14.187 change my hearts because that's a massive piece of surgery. 1:46:14.467 --> 1:46:16.587 What happens if he does that and one gets a 1:46:16.627 --> 1:46:20.507 little discontent and then Luke's form isn't quite there or 1:46:20.547 --> 1:46:23.387 he gets injured or suspended, then it's a bit awkward 1:46:23.427 --> 1:46:25.147 to bring the bloke you drop back in so I 1:46:25.227 --> 1:46:27.667 can sort of understand what Andrew Webs is doing. As 1:46:27.747 --> 1:46:30.587 hard as that is for Luke Metcalf and as genuine 1:46:30.627 --> 1:46:33.147 as his claims are for NRL. 1:46:32.827 --> 1:46:35.467 Rugby League, Charms Nickel click star back in the number 1:46:35.467 --> 1:46:37.387 one jersey for the Warriores. How important might. 1:46:37.347 --> 1:46:43.987 He be outstanding person to have on standby? And there's 1:46:44.027 --> 1:46:46.707 the situation that we can translate to the halves because 1:46:47.187 --> 1:46:49.347 it came to our Picky has been great, hasn't he 1:46:49.387 --> 1:46:51.227 Those fast feet at the back? Certainly out of the 1:46:51.267 --> 1:46:55.787 modern mold of rugby league fullbacks diminutive but still confident 1:46:55.787 --> 1:46:58.067 in the air with fast feet meat a reading, great 1:46:58.107 --> 1:47:00.947 way to start your sets. Well, I think Charles Nicolok 1:47:00.947 --> 1:47:03.707 crook star, who's what hasn't been a starting fullback for 1:47:03.987 --> 1:47:06.427 the best part of three months? What it come that 1:47:06.547 --> 1:47:09.107 Frandre Ribsters go, you know what Charms you're in? Look 1:47:09.147 --> 1:47:11.867 what he did last week when required when Taine was 1:47:11.907 --> 1:47:15.307 forced off. I thought Charms was fantastic in the forty 1:47:15.347 --> 1:47:18.147 five minutes he played. And if I'm coach Webster, I'm 1:47:18.187 --> 1:47:20.347 not losing much sleep the fact that I've got charms 1:47:20.387 --> 1:47:21.387 filling in for pain. 1:47:21.787 --> 1:47:24.667 We started to get towards the point of the season, Matt, 1:47:24.707 --> 1:47:28.667 where points differential matters, wins matter. Obviously there's real jockeying 1:47:28.747 --> 1:47:31.907 for position. Can you sense that familiar urgency now around 1:47:31.947 --> 1:47:33.307 teams chasing finals football? 1:47:33.747 --> 1:47:36.107 Absolutely I can, and it was on show last night 1:47:36.187 --> 1:47:40.267 in Melbourne. I did the game Storm hosting the Bulldogs 1:47:40.307 --> 1:47:43.627 Storm Brave at Canterbury, knowing that if they win they 1:47:43.707 --> 1:47:45.947 go inside the top eight. They found that winning kick 1:47:46.347 --> 1:47:48.907 and they rely on their senior players, the likes of 1:47:48.987 --> 1:47:51.827 Burton and kick out and criton. It might be a 1:47:51.867 --> 1:47:54.627 bit the same for the Warriors today. You look through 1:47:54.707 --> 1:47:56.987 that lineup and you say, well, the senior players, the 1:47:57.067 --> 1:47:59.467 leaders of the two front rowers there in Fisher, Harris 1:47:59.907 --> 1:48:02.547 and Barnett, they've got a big job to play against. 1:48:03.147 --> 1:48:06.147 The starting front rowers for dol Coast in mofod Awake, 1:48:06.387 --> 1:48:09.187 Tino Farsu Mala. Are we when's the last time He's 1:48:09.187 --> 1:48:11.867 a little question, when was the last time the two 1:48:12.227 --> 1:48:16.347 starting front rowers in each team were both co captain, 1:48:16.427 --> 1:48:18.627 So the eight and the ten on both sides of 1:48:18.667 --> 1:48:21.147 the team yesterday are joint leaders of their teams and 1:48:21.147 --> 1:48:22.987 I think they've got to play a huge role all. 1:48:22.907 --> 1:48:24.907 Right, production time out the keywis in the crowd this 1:48:25.027 --> 1:48:28.307 afternoon going to be the happier of the two fan bases, Matt. 1:48:29.067 --> 1:48:31.387 I think they will. I just feel that as well 1:48:31.427 --> 1:48:35.227 as the Gold Coast Titans are playing. You just touched 1:48:35.227 --> 1:48:38.147 on it. The Warriors need it more. Their form, while 1:48:38.347 --> 1:48:42.147 patchy hasn't been diabolical, I feel they fall back into 1:48:42.227 --> 1:48:44.467 rhythm at a venue where there's going to be huge 1:48:44.467 --> 1:48:47.987 support and really daytime conditions on the Goal Coast should 1:48:48.027 --> 1:48:49.667 be a great atmosphere. I can't wait to be there. 1:48:49.787 --> 1:48:51.307 Yeah, I can't wait to hear you call, Matt. Thanks 1:48:51.307 --> 1:48:53.267 so much for joining us today, mate, Really appreciate your 1:48:53.267 --> 1:48:53.627 time as. 1:48:53.587 --> 1:48:56.347 Always, anytime thanks to supporter of Rugby League. 1:48:56.427 --> 1:48:58.507 Yeah, thanks for joining us, Matt. Looking forward to hearing 1:48:58.547 --> 1:49:00.547 your call. Matt Russell. 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It's paying a dollar 1:51:15.347 --> 1:51:19.427 seventy three you would win one hundred and nine dollars fifty. 1:51:19.707 --> 1:51:24.147 That is the short bet. Evans is the NPC, the 1:51:24.267 --> 1:51:28.307 Happy Stag Day Special, Southland v Otago and in the cargo. 1:51:28.827 --> 1:51:31.867 It's for Southland to win the game, it's paying four dollars. 1:51:32.507 --> 1:51:37.027 You would win four hundred and fifty and long at 1:51:37.067 --> 1:51:41.747 the Commonwealth Games it's called the it's only sixteen hundred 1:51:41.747 --> 1:51:45.627 and nine meters special. It's the Men's Mile, and for 1:51:45.787 --> 1:51:48.587 Sam Tanner, our man in the black singlet, to win 1:51:48.707 --> 1:51:52.947 the gold medal, it's paying seventy one dollars. You would 1:51:52.987 --> 1:51:57.707 win ten and a half thousand dollars. So the New 1:51:57.787 --> 1:52:00.307 Zealand Warrior is to get five tries or more, you'd 1:52:00.347 --> 1:52:03.027 win one hundred and nine dollars fifty. Southland to beat 1:52:03.067 --> 1:52:06.867 Otago you'd win four hundred and fifty. Sam Tanner to 1:52:06.947 --> 1:52:09.947 win the Men's Mile at the Colm Games you'd win 1:52:10.067 --> 1:52:11.227 ten and a half thousand. 1:52:11.587 --> 1:52:14.027 What are you going to go with, Marco, I've got 1:52:14.067 --> 1:52:15.227 to back the team to win the mile. 1:52:15.747 --> 1:52:18.347 I think, so a ten and a half grand just 1:52:18.427 --> 1:52:22.787 for being calling number five, I'd be taking too well 1:52:22.947 --> 1:52:26.067 it Why not, mate, why not? We will place the 1:52:26.147 --> 1:52:28.907 bet for you. We'll be cheering Sam Tanner home. Imagine 1:52:28.907 --> 1:52:35.347 if he wins Marco ten and a half grand Let's 1:52:35.387 --> 1:52:38.387 have the powers that be are listening and watching and 1:52:38.507 --> 1:52:40.787 that Sam Tanner is your man who wins the gold medal. 1:52:41.427 --> 1:52:43.267 Good on your Marco hold there. Make sure that Andy's 1:52:43.267 --> 1:52:44.827 got all the right details for you. We're going to 1:52:44.867 --> 1:52:47.387 place the bet on your behalf the ta B bonus bet. 1:52:47.547 --> 1:52:49.787 Keep our fingers crossed for you if it comes home 1:52:49.827 --> 1:52:53.307 the winnings of yours. Place a three plus leg same 1:52:53.427 --> 1:52:56.827 game multi on the NRL Super Rugby or US Basketball 1:52:56.987 --> 1:53:00.347 and if it fails by one leg, get bonus cash back, 1:53:00.387 --> 1:53:02.627 teas and seas apply. We'll do it again next week. 1:53:02.627 --> 1:53:04.707 We'll play a Sporting Chants again next Saturday. Thanks to 1:53:04.787 --> 1:53:09.427 our mates at the tabs. Always please bet responsibly coming 1:53:09.507 --> 1:53:12.267 up seventeen to three. Sport has long been one of 1:53:12.347 --> 1:53:16.347 the strongest connections between New Zealand and India, and this 1:53:16.507 --> 1:53:19.267 year that relationship is being celebrated in a big way. 1:53:19.547 --> 1:53:22.267 We are now just one hundred days away from the 1:53:22.547 --> 1:53:26.867 one hundred Years of Unity through Sport Festival, a nationwide 1:53:26.907 --> 1:53:31.587 celebration featuring a record twelve match black Cap series against India. 1:53:32.027 --> 1:53:36.067 Two All Whites Internationals, a new Trans Tasman Bowls series, 1:53:36.467 --> 1:53:40.387 along with cultural, community and business events. It's all designed 1:53:40.747 --> 1:53:43.227 to mark a century of sporting ties between the two 1:53:43.267 --> 1:53:47.507 countries and showcase the power of sport to bring people together. 1:53:47.667 --> 1:53:51.347 The program director helping drive it all is Jamie Taunty. 1:53:51.427 --> 1:53:53.707 Joins us Now, Jamie Gratachat to you, we've reached the 1:53:53.787 --> 1:53:56.947 one hundred days to go, Mark, how excited are you 1:53:57.027 --> 1:53:58.747 about what November will bring? 1:54:01.387 --> 1:54:03.907 Well, first and foremost, Pinty, that was an amazing intro. 1:54:04.027 --> 1:54:05.307 I think you could actually do my job. 1:54:05.467 --> 1:54:08.267 My job is burning cats, and you've certainly summed it 1:54:08.387 --> 1:54:09.067 up really well. 1:54:09.547 --> 1:54:12.187 Look, it is super exciting and the energy out there 1:54:12.227 --> 1:54:14.947 in the Indian community is overwhelming. It's so cool to 1:54:15.027 --> 1:54:18.187 see so many people getting behind this. It's not just 1:54:18.227 --> 1:54:20.147 the sports that have been named already, it's those that 1:54:20.187 --> 1:54:22.067 are out there looking for how they can get involved. 1:54:22.107 --> 1:54:24.587 So it's an amazing history and I'd love to share 1:54:24.587 --> 1:54:26.067 a bit of that history with you, Pineer. It's just 1:54:26.267 --> 1:54:27.347 a really great story. 1:54:27.627 --> 1:54:30.267 Well let's do that and tell us a bit about 1:54:30.267 --> 1:54:33.387 the one hundred years between these two countries that have 1:54:33.507 --> 1:54:35.187 led us to this point and to the celebration. 1:54:36.027 --> 1:54:39.827 Well, nineteen twenty six, the Indian Army hockey team came 1:54:39.867 --> 1:54:41.827 out to New Zealand to play a series ended up 1:54:41.867 --> 1:54:44.627 being seventeen matches back in the day where there wasn't 1:54:44.627 --> 1:54:46.707 a lot of workload monitoring, and they got through a 1:54:46.747 --> 1:54:49.307 hell of a lot of games. They won all but 1:54:49.467 --> 1:54:51.947 one of their games up and down the country, just 1:54:52.067 --> 1:54:55.187 drawing one. But the remarkable thing about that team, and 1:54:55.227 --> 1:54:57.307 apart from the fact they covered a lot of miles, 1:54:58.067 --> 1:55:02.187 is there was some really great backstories amongst the team. 1:55:02.827 --> 1:55:07.467 Peter Mitzgimmings's grandfather, who was Xee of Sport New Zealand 1:55:07.507 --> 1:55:10.347 and out sort of my right hand one hundred percent 1:55:10.467 --> 1:55:13.987 in sport diplomacy around New Zealand around the world. His 1:55:14.227 --> 1:55:19.667 grandfather was actually the match official in that team. Sid Holland, 1:55:20.067 --> 1:55:22.507 our twenty fifth Prime Minister of New Zealand, was the 1:55:22.667 --> 1:55:25.827 New Zealand team's selector of that tour. 1:55:26.507 --> 1:55:29.267 But the final part was Dan Charmed. 1:55:29.747 --> 1:55:32.827 He is the goat of hockey and he took part 1:55:32.867 --> 1:55:35.867 in that first ever match series here in New Zealand. 1:55:35.947 --> 1:55:39.987 So it's got an incredible backstory and all things being equal, 1:55:40.267 --> 1:55:44.027 hockey was the fifty first years, and you could argue 1:55:44.147 --> 1:55:46.227 that now cricket has taken up the mantle in that 1:55:46.347 --> 1:55:47.187 second fifty years. 1:55:47.507 --> 1:55:50.107 It has indeed an India's cricket team, as I mentioned, 1:55:50.227 --> 1:55:53.987 playing a record twelve match tour of New Zealand. But 1:55:54.387 --> 1:55:56.467 we've got the All Whites, We've got an International Bowl 1:55:56.587 --> 1:55:59.747 series with more to come. How important was it to 1:55:59.867 --> 1:56:03.387 have a number of sports represented rather than just relying 1:56:03.467 --> 1:56:05.387 on one real headline event. 1:56:06.507 --> 1:56:07.307 I look, it really is. 1:56:07.387 --> 1:56:10.067 India is one of the largest and fastest growing sports 1:56:10.107 --> 1:56:12.907 markets in the World's got a strong fan base. They're 1:56:12.947 --> 1:56:15.467 increasing their investment across the board in sport, not just 1:56:15.587 --> 1:56:18.187 in cricket but other sports as well. It's got a 1:56:18.267 --> 1:56:23.747 real aspiration to host upcoming international events, looking as far 1:56:23.867 --> 1:56:25.827 ahead as twenty thirty six where they're looking to put 1:56:25.867 --> 1:56:28.627 their name in the hat for the host in the Olympics. 1:56:28.747 --> 1:56:31.747 So they're looking at New Zealand now as two ways 1:56:31.787 --> 1:56:33.787 in which and I hate saying this piny, but we 1:56:33.867 --> 1:56:35.987 continue to punch above our weight. It's the phrase. It 1:56:36.027 --> 1:56:40.147 gets off the news. India looks to New Zealand to see, well, 1:56:40.147 --> 1:56:42.867 how do you do that? What are the ways in systems? 1:56:43.707 --> 1:56:45.627 Or how do we train our athletes in the ip 1:56:45.827 --> 1:56:48.867 that sits behind that that may help them. I guess 1:56:49.507 --> 1:56:51.867 move towards those targets have been really successful on the 1:56:51.907 --> 1:56:55.827 world stage. So look, I think it's super important to 1:56:55.987 --> 1:56:59.547 have those that vast array of sports. And I think 1:57:00.147 --> 1:57:04.107 there's no better example than bowls. Bowls is the only 1:57:04.267 --> 1:57:07.347 sport that I am aware of that male male para 1:57:07.587 --> 1:57:10.827 athletes can all compete on the same green. And we've 1:57:10.907 --> 1:57:13.347 seen it during the Commonwealth Games. We've got a twenty 1:57:13.387 --> 1:57:14.787 three year old playing someone. 1:57:14.587 --> 1:57:15.667 Who's over seventy. 1:57:15.907 --> 1:57:18.187 Yeah, amazing and just hope for us all, hope for 1:57:18.307 --> 1:57:20.787 us all all. Yeah, yeah, you've vented that. There are 1:57:20.827 --> 1:57:22.747 still some more announcements to come. So with that having 1:57:22.787 --> 1:57:24.987 too much, what sort of editions can we expect over 1:57:25.067 --> 1:57:27.187 the next well ninety nine days anyway? 1:57:28.227 --> 1:57:28.787 Yeah, Look, the. 1:57:29.747 --> 1:57:32.947 Events themselves have received funding from the government's Event Boost 1:57:32.987 --> 1:57:35.627 Fund and so that they have aspirations across the number 1:57:35.667 --> 1:57:38.747 of things. It's not just in sport, it's across obviously 1:57:39.027 --> 1:57:41.067 the way in which we might develop business between the 1:57:41.107 --> 1:57:46.307 two countries. We know that India Indian students have a 1:57:46.427 --> 1:57:49.987 large footprint here now particular across a lot of our 1:57:50.067 --> 1:57:53.947 university programs. The education plays a role, so you might 1:57:53.987 --> 1:57:58.507 see some education initiatives. We know that we are always 1:57:58.587 --> 1:58:02.547 interested in showing off our beautiful country, so tourism plays 1:58:02.587 --> 1:58:04.307 a role, so you can expect to see a number 1:58:04.307 --> 1:58:08.147 of announcements across sports, business, education and those sort of 1:58:08.227 --> 1:58:11.547 areas as well. So it's it's a unique program, mates, 1:58:11.587 --> 1:58:13.947 and it's something that I'm obviously very excited about. 1:58:14.027 --> 1:58:16.747 Now I can tell even more than normal, Jamie. You're 1:58:16.747 --> 1:58:19.187 always one of the more enthusiastic people I get the 1:58:19.307 --> 1:58:21.467 chance to have a chat to, and this is obviously 1:58:21.827 --> 1:58:25.027 something which is really invigorating you. We often talk about 1:58:25.067 --> 1:58:28.827 the power of sport to bring people together. Will this 1:58:28.947 --> 1:58:31.587 create some good opportunities for New Zealand's large and growing 1:58:32.027 --> 1:58:34.347 Indian community to feel a real part of this. 1:58:35.667 --> 1:58:38.027 The Indian community as it stands, is the third largest 1:58:38.027 --> 1:58:40.547 ethnic population in New Zealand. It's about three hundred and 1:58:40.587 --> 1:58:44.427 fifty thousand and growing. I guess you could say sport 1:58:44.587 --> 1:58:48.107 was the first handshake ever made between New Zealand and India, 1:58:48.227 --> 1:58:50.707 and that's where sort of one hundred year relationships start 1:58:51.227 --> 1:58:53.147 and it continues to bring people together. 1:58:54.387 --> 1:58:55.267 The Indian community. 1:58:55.627 --> 1:58:57.587 Like I say, they contribute in so many ways, not 1:58:57.747 --> 1:59:00.587 just in sport, but through business and education here in 1:59:00.667 --> 1:59:03.347 New Zealand, and it's such a vibrant community that we're 1:59:03.387 --> 1:59:09.227 extremely lucky that it's not going to be isolated to Auckland. 1:59:09.347 --> 1:59:13.747 It's going to be Auckland, christ Church, Wellington, Tottering and Hamilton. 1:59:13.787 --> 1:59:16.707 So it's up and down the country. And whilst it's 1:59:16.747 --> 1:59:19.707 a year long program, most of the events happen in 1:59:19.827 --> 1:59:22.987 November and the main festival period is between the ninth 1:59:23.107 --> 1:59:25.987 and the twenty second of November, so it's very cool 1:59:26.027 --> 1:59:29.067 Ponty and I think there'll be other things happening during 1:59:29.107 --> 1:59:32.227 the year. In fact, rugby has already played a significant role. 1:59:33.587 --> 1:59:36.387 It's you mentioned at the start. It's like hurting cats 1:59:36.427 --> 1:59:38.867 and I can imagine with anything of this size there 1:59:38.947 --> 1:59:43.067 are some logistical challenges. How have you found it sort 1:59:43.067 --> 1:59:45.507 of pulling all of the bits and pieces together with 1:59:45.667 --> 1:59:47.827 now we're getting down to only one hundred days to go. 1:59:48.867 --> 1:59:51.027 Oh look, I think our superpower in New Zealand is 1:59:51.067 --> 1:59:54.307 working together and it's so cool that we've got awesome 1:59:54.347 --> 1:59:57.187 host cities or putting their hand up to use. Even 1:59:57.267 --> 2:00:00.147 some of their existing events that they've got in their 2:00:00.227 --> 2:00:04.627 calendar to really amplify this opportunity with India. So whether 2:00:04.707 --> 2:00:09.027 it's looking at christ Church down they're in the Cup week, 2:00:09.107 --> 2:00:12.307 or whether it might be their fashions festival they've got 2:00:12.387 --> 2:00:15.067 going on, there are multiple ways in which they can 2:00:15.147 --> 2:00:17.507 bring those other events to life with an Indian feel 2:00:17.587 --> 2:00:20.587 on theme. So yeah, we're super lucky with great host cities. 2:00:20.627 --> 2:00:22.667 And I've got to give a shout out to people 2:00:22.747 --> 2:00:25.867 like New Zealand Cricket, New Zealand Football, New Zealand Bowls, 2:00:25.907 --> 2:00:28.387 so we're all working in collaboration to ensure this is 2:00:28.867 --> 2:00:29.747 a great success. 2:00:29.827 --> 2:00:33.387 And look I mentioned rugby before, mate, there. 2:00:33.427 --> 2:00:35.907 Was a request come down from India to look at 2:00:35.907 --> 2:00:37.907 how rugby might be involved in the program. 2:00:38.027 --> 2:00:41.747 And earlier this year New Zealand Rugby come on board to. 2:00:41.787 --> 2:00:45.707 Send up Well probably I'll say it outright, Alan Bunting, 2:00:45.987 --> 2:00:49.227 our greatest ever women's rugby coach, went up to India 2:00:49.347 --> 2:00:52.027 for a few days with Varnye Wolf Graham and Kahu 2:00:52.147 --> 2:00:55.347 Kerry to deliver a coaching program in sevens up there. 2:00:55.427 --> 2:00:58.947 And look, some of those rugby ties will continue later 2:00:59.027 --> 2:01:00.987 in the year where we send up a couple of 2:01:01.067 --> 2:01:03.707 age group squads to India to take part in a 2:01:03.827 --> 2:01:06.507 in a training week with the Indian equivalents, which is 2:01:06.507 --> 2:01:07.667 pretty cool as well. 2:01:07.867 --> 2:01:10.307 Indeed it is indeed it is one hundred years of 2:01:10.387 --> 2:01:13.627 Unity through Sport coming up in November, one hundred days away, Jamie, 2:01:13.667 --> 2:01:15.187 Thanks for taking time out of what I know is 2:01:15.227 --> 2:01:17.507 a very busy all for you to have a chat 2:01:17.547 --> 2:01:18.347 to us this afternoon. 2:01:18.427 --> 2:01:20.667 Are you're a champion Pointy? Thanks for making time mate. 2:01:20.507 --> 2:01:22.747 No, thank you for joining us, Jamie. Jamie Taut, program 2:01:22.907 --> 2:01:26.387 director of one hundred Years of Unity through Sport, celebrating 2:01:26.387 --> 2:01:29.187 one hundred years of competition between New Kilinda and India 2:01:29.627 --> 2:01:32.987 on the sporting fields of both countries. Look forward to 2:01:33.027 --> 2:01:35.987 hearing more as November draws closer. Night away from three 2:01:36.067 --> 2:01:36.867 News Talks, heab. 2:01:37.827 --> 2:01:40.747 The big names and the big calls on your home 2:01:40.827 --> 2:01:44.827 of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Vine News Talks. 2:01:44.867 --> 2:01:47.507 Heb two point fifty four. That'll just about do us 2:01:47.587 --> 2:01:49.827 quick look ahead to the show tomorrow. The All Blacks 2:01:49.867 --> 2:01:52.787 are now in South Africa, as you've heard across our 2:01:52.867 --> 2:01:55.307 news bulletins today, We're going to get a view from 2:01:55.467 --> 2:01:57.707 South Africa about how they're feeling about all of this. 2:01:58.427 --> 2:01:59.907 Have they have they? 2:02:00.227 --> 2:02:00.387 Well? 2:02:00.387 --> 2:02:03.387 Are they sharing any of our sense of optimism around 2:02:03.427 --> 2:02:06.427 the All Blacks or are they supremely confident that the 2:02:06.467 --> 2:02:08.027 spring Box will do a number on us over the 2:02:08.107 --> 2:02:09.907 next couple of months or so. So we've got that 2:02:10.067 --> 2:02:12.107 for you. We'll review the Warriors and also here from 2:02:12.107 --> 2:02:16.427 Auckland FC's brand new coach, Pedro Modadda, among other things. 2:02:16.507 --> 2:02:18.667 Anything happens at the Colm Games, we'll cover that off 2:02:18.707 --> 2:02:21.547 for you as well. Thanks for listening in. Thanks to 2:02:21.627 --> 2:02:23.987 any McDonald for producing the show. As usual, what is 2:02:24.027 --> 2:02:26.467 our exit song today? Finely? This is one for our 2:02:26.507 --> 2:02:29.787 good friend in Switzerland who runs runs FIFA. 2:02:30.027 --> 2:02:33.067 It's the man who sold the World or as I'm 2:02:33.067 --> 2:02:35.427 gonna call it, the man who sold the World Cup. 2:02:37.987 --> 2:03:13.067 Love it see tomorrow, folks, love me, revele mospitl. 2:03:13.627 --> 2:03:20.027 Your face, your face looking up so the world. 2:04:22.307 --> 2:04:25.467 For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 2:04:25.587 --> 2:04:28.867 to News Talks It B weekends from midday, or follow 2:04:28.907 --> 2:04:30.467 the podcast on iHeartRadio.