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Speaker 2: Talks env just before we move, as you heard in
Speaker 2: the Sports News with Elliott. In the last hour, FIFA
Speaker 2: President Jianni and Fantino has issued a statement on his
Speaker 2: proposal to sell off a section of FIFA tournaments, including
Speaker 2: World Cups, to private investors now. When his plan came
Speaker 2: to light in the last few days, it was met
Speaker 2: with major opposition from all parts of the football family. YUWEFA,
Speaker 2: conker CAFF and the Asian Football Confederation all voiced their
Speaker 2: official opposition to it in very strong language, threatening to
Speaker 2: boycott future World Cups unless the scheme was abandoned, and
Speaker 2: senior officials at FIFA, including Gianni and Fantino's senior advisor
Speaker 2: Carlos Cadero, have quit in protest of both the idea
Speaker 2: itself and the unilateral way in which it was being
Speaker 2: pulled together without any form of consultation at all, and
Speaker 2: now the idea is dead in the water. The statement
Speaker 2: from the FIFA President reads as follows. I'll read this verbatim.
Speaker 2: The FIFA Forward Enterprise project was intended to provide a
Speaker 2: basis for further strengthening our FIFA member associations and our
Speaker 2: sport worldwide, especially in those countries where supporters most needed,
Speaker 2: and more so, as we said from the outset to
Speaker 2: do this only if a majority of the FIFA member
Speaker 2: associations were in support and always subject to a consultation
Speaker 2: process with them, the FIFA Council, the confederations and wider stakeholders.
Speaker 2: The statement goes on to say, having listened carefully to
Speaker 2: all the views, it's become clear that the project has
Speaker 2: created divisions of a nature that, regardless of the level
Speaker 2: of support, are no longer in the interest of the
Speaker 2: objective set out in the first place. Our purpose has
Speaker 2: always been and will always be, to unite and improve.
Speaker 2: As a result, this proposal will not proceed, and the
Speaker 2: statement from Infantino finishes moving forward, My intent is to
Speaker 2: bring all interested parties back together in the coming days
Speaker 2: and weeks in the spirit of shared interest in our
Speaker 2: game and with the objective to continue growing football everywhere,
Speaker 2: particularly in those countries that mostly need our support. That
Speaker 2: is the end of the statement. This is an enforced
Speaker 2: back down of staggering, unprecedented proportions and a misjudgment of
Speaker 2: the highest order from Gianni and Fantino, which has led
Speaker 2: to utter humiliation for him. During his time as FIFA president,
Speaker 2: Infantino has become more and more detached from reality, to
Speaker 2: the point where he thought he was some sort of
Speaker 2: all powerful head of the global game and could do
Speaker 2: whatever he liked without any regard littlone discussion with anybody else.
Speaker 2: His arrogance, his levels of delusion have become breathtaking. The
Speaker 2: game is not Gianni Infantinos to sell. It is not
Speaker 2: anyone's to sell. Those in the corridors of power at
Speaker 2: FIFA are merely guardians of the game. They are not
Speaker 2: the owners of any part of it. FIFA exists to
Speaker 2: administer the game and to ensure ensure its development in
Speaker 2: all parts of the world. But somewhere along the line,
Speaker 2: Gianni Infantino has fallen under the severe misapprehension that he
Speaker 2: is somehow bigger than the game himself, or bigger than
Speaker 2: the game itself he is not, and this may well
Speaker 2: mark the beginning of the end for a man who
Speaker 2: has become deeply unpopular as football's supposed global leader. Anyone
Speaker 2: with a shred of dignity or self awareness would now resign,
Speaker 2: but Infantino has neither of those things, and so he won't.
Speaker 2: Our good friend on the show, Seb Stafford Blower wrote
Speaker 2: today in The Athletic that this is Jarni and Fantino's
Speaker 2: Icarus moment. The FIFA president has finally flown too close
Speaker 2: to the sun and the consequences for him may well
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Speaker 2: as well on the show tomorrow, but any thought you
Speaker 2: have would be welcome. But former Black Caps captain Stephen
Speaker 2: Fleming is the issue for discussion to kick us off today.
Speaker 2: Confirmed as the head coach of England's men's test site,
Speaker 2: he succeeds former teammate Brendan McCullum in charge of the
Speaker 2: red ball side. McCullum will retain the white ball coaching roles.
Speaker 2: Stephen Fleming has signed a four year deal. He'll officially
Speaker 2: take charge away in South Africa later in the year.
Speaker 2: Let's get some insight into this from English based cricket
Speaker 2: writer Cameron Ponsonby. Cameron, thanks for joining us across New Zealand.
Speaker 2: What's the reaction been to Stephen Fleming being appointed England
Speaker 2: Test cricket coach.
Speaker 4: I'll change to a ki Wei friend of mine. He
Speaker 4: was wondering how Steven Fleming was going to balance the
Speaker 4: test role with his role as the fujitsu heat pump man.
Speaker 5: I don't know. That didn't mean that much to me, but.
Speaker 4: He said it was very important there how he was
Speaker 4: going to manage to do the two things at the
Speaker 4: same time. We're kind of we're just learning as we
Speaker 4: go at the moment because Stephen Fleming, he's got all
Speaker 4: the IPL credentials, but as we've kind of got used
Speaker 4: to having the big kind of celebrity personality of Brenda
Speaker 4: McCollum over the last four years, so I think everyone
Speaker 4: just wants everything to calm down a little bit.
Speaker 5: I think where it feels like an adult's being hired.
Speaker 4: I think that's kind of probably the most realistic assessment
Speaker 4: where the fear was we were going to end up
Speaker 4: with like Justin Langer and purposefully kind of go from
Speaker 4: one end of the spectrum with Brendan McCollum and then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden go all the way to the
Speaker 4: other end and with a really intense coach. But it
Speaker 4: sounds like Stephen Fleming's probably a bit of a happy
Speaker 4: middle grounds. It helps that him and McCollum know each
Speaker 4: other because the weird thing at the moment is like
Speaker 4: the ex girlfriends still in the room.
Speaker 5: Brenda mccllum's still here.
Speaker 4: He's leading the white ball teams and so this new
Speaker 4: Test head coach is going to have to manage that relationship.
Speaker 4: It's a bit strange because he's not doing the South
Speaker 4: Africa SERI or sorry, the Pakistan series but starts in
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks, so obviously in England's to too
Speaker 4: much of a degree in my opinion, we focus on
Speaker 4: the Ashes, but there's ten Test matches to go into
Speaker 4: next year's Ashes. He misses three, he's only gonna have seven,
Speaker 4: So the first series he has at home will be
Speaker 4: that Ashes series. Next year, but I think overall people
Speaker 4: are content that sensible man has been given the job.
Speaker 2: Well, it's been one of the most successful franchise coaches
Speaker 2: in world cricket in the last little while, but this
Speaker 2: is his first international coaching role. Does his success at
Speaker 2: Chinnai translate to the teat arena or are they really
Speaker 2: just completely different jobs.
Speaker 4: I think it's an amazing question, and it's a debate
Speaker 4: I've been having with my own friends about how peculiar
Speaker 4: it is that the last two head coaches that England
Speaker 4: have appointed, neither of them ever led a red Bull game.
Speaker 4: And I think it's more of a not an indictment,
Speaker 4: but a representation of the modern sports. So what if
Speaker 4: you're Brendan McCullum and Stephen Fleming, and let's say you're
Speaker 4: kind of around forty five to fifty five years old
Speaker 4: when you retired, your first coaching opportunities were probably in
Speaker 4: T twenty cricket because that's where the new opportunities were,
Speaker 4: and it's taken less seriously at that point. And now
Speaker 4: we're ten to fifteen years on and all the most
Speaker 4: experienced coaches are from a T twenty background because the
Speaker 4: most the highest paid jobs are in the IPL, and
Speaker 4: that's how you are.
Speaker 5: Those are the plumb jobs now.
Speaker 4: So I'm fascinated to see if that makes a difference,
Speaker 4: because it sounds like listening to players and other pundits,
Speaker 4: it says not, really, you're kind of coaching the basics.
Speaker 4: You're managing a team, you're managing personalities as much as
Speaker 4: you're teaching someone to play a cover drive.
Speaker 5: But I do find it interesting that in a world.
Speaker 4: Where playing like red ball and white ball, players are
Speaker 4: becoming so specialized in those two games are going further
Speaker 4: and further apart in the coaching arena at least, that
Speaker 4: that's very different. So I imagine it won't make a difference.
Speaker 4: I think the fact that he's had the experience of
Speaker 4: managing MS Tony and that character and that media intensity
Speaker 4: over in the IPL that will see him go really
Speaker 4: well over here in a way that Adam Milne was
Speaker 4: bowling some Yorkers and it's like, oh, he doesn't need
Speaker 4: to do that in the test game.
Speaker 5: So I think I think it should be okay.
Speaker 4: But it's a question I don't know the answer to,
Speaker 4: and it's one I'm kind of interested to see how
Speaker 4: it works out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So wait, so we Cameron, you mentioned it before
Speaker 2: and you bought it really well. The ex girlfriend is
Speaker 2: still there. Brandan McCallum is still in the mix obviously,
Speaker 2: and he is the England white ball coach, so he
Speaker 2: is red and white ball coaches of England. This isn't
Speaker 2: you you've head split coaches before. How much contact will
Speaker 2: Stephen Fleming and Brendan McCallum have to have.
Speaker 4: There's going to have to be loads because next summer
Speaker 4: we have the Ashes series here in July and then
Speaker 4: two months later it's the ODI World Cup, so there's
Speaker 4: going to have to be a real balance struck between
Speaker 4: those two setups and it's awkward. So we actually just
Speaker 4: spoke to Rob Key, who's the managing Oh my god,
Speaker 4: what is his job? Director of cricket something like that.
Speaker 4: I've gone and completely forgotten. He's one of the big
Speaker 4: boys in charge, and we've been talking about he's talking about.
Speaker 4: What's different between now and before is when COVID kind
Speaker 4: of bummed up the schedule for England. They're playing so
Speaker 4: much cricket that they end up playing two series at
Speaker 4: the same time in different parts of the world, so
Speaker 4: they'd play a white ball tour in the West Indies
Speaker 4: and the Test team would be landing in Pakistan basically
Speaker 4: at the same time, and so you literally could not
Speaker 4: have your two best teams going out onto the pitch
Speaker 4: because you'd need Joff Archer to be in Karachi and
Speaker 4: Grenada and he can't do that, whereas now there is
Speaker 4: a little bit more kind of breathing room in the
Speaker 4: schedule where there is gaps between the two. However, look,
Speaker 4: if you're Brendan McCullum and you're like, well, hang on,
Speaker 4: I'm getting judged on my results here and you're not
Speaker 4: letting me have joff Erararchi or Josh Tungu or whoever
Speaker 4: my quick bowlers are because that you've got to look
Speaker 4: after him for the Test match. I don't want that
Speaker 4: to come back on me if we then lose the
Speaker 4: matches where they're not available for me. And that is
Speaker 4: what happened with Matthew Mott, who was the previous white
Speaker 4: ball coach in England, and that he basically never had
Speaker 4: his first choice team until the last od I World
Speaker 4: Up where England got thumped basically, and so he's always
Speaker 4: kind of cutted a bit of it.
Speaker 5: He's been a bit of an unfortunate figure in.
Speaker 4: English cricket because he's never had the opportunity to work
Speaker 4: with the best team that he could and now that
Speaker 4: scenario shouldn't quite happen again with Brenda McCollum. But without doubt,
Speaker 4: without doubt, it's going to be office politics, kind of
Speaker 4: behind the scenes of trying to make sure both parties
Speaker 4: will want their best team. And you know who's going
Speaker 4: to win that conversation, Stephen Fleming, because people came more
Speaker 4: about test cricket.
Speaker 2: Stephen Fleming inheriting a good team.
Speaker 6: No, it's we.
Speaker 4: I think these numbers used to be kind of rattled
Speaker 4: through my head bit's but with England are losing a lot.
Speaker 4: We haven't won like a multi match series since like
Speaker 4: the end of twenty twenty four, since we played you guys.
Speaker 5: Actually, you guys just beat us at home.
Speaker 4: That's the first time we've lost like a proper series
Speaker 4: at home since twenty twelve. We've got thumps in the ashes.
Speaker 4: We didn't beat India. They always talk about this stuff.
Speaker 4: It annoys me so much because they talk about how
Speaker 4: we judge ourselves against India and Australia. I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: other teams like are good and exists, and I was
Speaker 4: actually quite I can say this because I'm talking on
Speaker 4: New Zealand radio rather than at home, Like I was
Speaker 4: kind of relieved when you guys beat us because I see,
Speaker 4: like other countries are good. We can't we shouldn't just
Speaker 4: be spending all our time focusing on these only these
Speaker 4: two series.
Speaker 5: We're going to go to South Africa away.
Speaker 4: They probably gonna beat us as well because they're a
Speaker 4: really good cricket team, but they say we're going to
Speaker 4: focus on India and Australia and across Brekenda McCollum's time
Speaker 4: in charge, we won six out of twenty matches against
Speaker 4: those guys. We never beat them in one of the
Speaker 4: big series. So when it comes down to the kind
Speaker 4: of the series, the results where they are judged they've
Speaker 4: not performed to the level they want.
Speaker 5: Is the team which basically is new now.
Speaker 4: So Joe Root's basically the last of that previous generation
Speaker 4: that a lot of you, Ben Stokes, Stuart Braw, James Anderson,
Speaker 4: Johnny Bears, so, Chris Wokes, everyone's gone that it's just
Speaker 4: Joe Root left and he's now captain again. So he's
Speaker 4: basically leaving the children forward. It's not a bad cricket team.
Speaker 4: There has a lot of potential in it. Harry Brook
Speaker 4: is a phenomenally talented cricketer. Ben Ducketts had a bit
Speaker 4: of a dip recently, but he's excellent as well.
Speaker 5: There's exciting bowlers.
Speaker 4: We don't have a spinner, but I mean you guys
Speaker 4: get by with Ratchan and Glenn Phillips, so maybe maybe
Speaker 4: you don't need one. No, So basically what I'm saying
Speaker 4: is if Stephen Fleming has success, congratulations because he's changed
Speaker 4: something because we've been losing recently.
Speaker 2: Now, well you mentioned Joe Roup before. He's back as
Speaker 2: taste capt and then there's always a lot of chet.
Speaker 2: When Brendan McCallum was in charge, he and benchs the
Speaker 2: coach captain relationship was always seen as is very important.
Speaker 2: How do you evaluate the potential Stephen Fleming Joe Root
Speaker 2: partnership as coach in captain in red ball cricket for England?
Speaker 4: Just sensible, so responsible, two kind of men who are
Speaker 4: just going to make sure everything's okay. It's a really
Speaker 4: bizarre situation that Joe Rue is back in the saddle
Speaker 4: because he was a broken Man. At the end of
Speaker 4: his previous tenure as Captaincy, England had won one match
Speaker 4: in seventeen, we'd had COVID, they'd gone away to Australia
Speaker 4: and played a horrible lockdown series.
Speaker 5: They've then gone to India as well.
Speaker 4: And that's actually it's sounding more rather than it being
Speaker 4: that's a scar, which means he never wanted this job again.
Speaker 4: It's actually feels like a bit of an injustice that
Speaker 4: it was left in the way it was because before
Speaker 4: that final year and a half of Joe's roots Captaincy,
Speaker 4: if you just skip a tiny bit ahead, his stock
Speaker 4: had never really been higher. He had this generational series
Speaker 4: away in Sri Lanka where England won I think they
Speaker 4: won three nil. Then they went to Indian and they
Speaker 4: won the first Test of this series and Joe it
Speaker 4: pretty much scored centuries in.
Speaker 5: All the games and it was like, Wow, this is
Speaker 5: the time where the man.
Speaker 4: Who previously husd to not be able to turn fifties
Speaker 4: into hundreds, which is something him and Stephen Pleman can
Speaker 4: have a chat about that'd be nice, has now kind
Speaker 4: of cracked that kind of curse he had. He's now
Speaker 4: scoring loads of runs England are winning, and then like
Speaker 4: the world exploded and so too did the England kind
Speaker 4: of fortunes within cricket, and so now he had the
Speaker 4: little taste of it again at the Oval when Ben
Speaker 4: Stokes was suspended for his late night antics, and then
Speaker 4: it just feels like he's got a chance to put
Speaker 4: a bowl on everything. The fear that I think we
Speaker 4: have as fans is he's batting so brilliantly and the
Speaker 4: Test captaincy did overall not right at the end of
Speaker 4: his tenure, but overall impacts his battle performance. He does
Speaker 4: average less when he's captain than when he's.
Speaker 5: Not, So in a best case scenario, he's not having
Speaker 5: to do this. It's just Joe.
Speaker 4: You carry on back in for another two or three years,
Speaker 4: catch Statchington, Dolker, Winner, Nash years and ride off into
Speaker 4: the sunset.
Speaker 5: It should be Harry Brooke.
Speaker 4: He's twenty seven, he's played forty Test matches, averages fifty five.
Speaker 4: On paper, he's absolutely the correct candidate, and it's an
Speaker 4: indictment of the fact that no one else is ready
Speaker 4: to do it, that Joe's having to have another go.
Speaker 4: But I think from his perspective, he saw how tight
Speaker 4: McCollum and Stokes were were and how much Stokes enjoyed
Speaker 4: working with someone who was kind of that they bonded
Speaker 4: with and saving filhme, he's got reputation as a great tactician,
Speaker 4: and Rupe went, you know what, let's have an overgo
Speaker 4: at this and kind of sign off the way I
Speaker 4: would like to as opposed to the way it had
Speaker 4: happened previously.
Speaker 2: And the other big discussion point, obviously of Bringda McCallum's
Speaker 2: rign was what happened off the field England's cricket culture.
Speaker 2: I guess she'd call it, well, what kind of influence
Speaker 2: do you think state than flaming will have on the
Speaker 2: culture of the team beyond just you know, tectics in
Speaker 2: team selection.
Speaker 4: Well, there's an interview he did with the Cricket Monthly
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, which is doing the rounds
Speaker 4: now in England, where there's a paragraph of text where
Speaker 4: you could copy and paste it and it would sound
Speaker 4: like Brendan McCollum about optional training sessions and player autonomy
Speaker 4: and just giving the responsibility to the players. So it
Speaker 4: sounds like it's going to be a little bit of
Speaker 4: a reversion to the mean here where it's still going
Speaker 4: to be player first, individualized, you guys look after yourself,
Speaker 4: but just with the kind of the eyes dotted and
Speaker 4: the t's crossed and a little bit more attention to detail,
Speaker 4: which I think sounds like a happy middle ground. There's
Speaker 4: really strange thing that and a great example of how
Speaker 4: things and why things went wrong over in England is
Speaker 4: when Brendan McCollums started as England had Test coach, it
Speaker 4: was like the most freewheeling, carefree, relaxed environment in cricket,
Speaker 4: in world cricket. And that team finished with a bedtime.
Speaker 4: That was the change that happened. They put a curfew
Speaker 4: in they're not drinking on match days. That it was
Speaker 4: the distinct shift that happened of how it all kind
Speaker 4: of fell apart and so as bizarre as it may sound,
Speaker 4: given Brendan McCallum has a reputation for being very kind
Speaker 4: of relaxed, if not casual, I think is the way
Speaker 4: they describe it. It's going to have to get more
Speaker 4: relaxed again because at the moment the fact that on
Speaker 4: the last day of a Test match, if England win,
Speaker 4: like the guys can't have a beer with each other
Speaker 4: in the changing room Like that's that's absurd, Like what
Speaker 4: what situation we got to where that arguably the best
Speaker 4: bit of playing team sports is taken away and the
Speaker 4: idea of that, oh you got to be in bed
Speaker 4: by twelve, like I have a day like what we're
Speaker 4: talking about here. So hopefully he can just be sensible,
Speaker 4: bringing probably more structured training regimes and basically how the professionalism,
Speaker 4: but also have the leeway for everyone to be able
Speaker 4: to just be grown ups and be trusted to go
Speaker 4: to a better twelve thirty A drink sounds right?
Speaker 2: It does all right to me, Cameron. You've given us
Speaker 2: amazing insight made It's a fascinating time for English cricket.
Speaker 2: We'll be watching with great interest as Stephen Fleming takes
Speaker 2: the reins. Thanks for joining us across New Zealand to
Speaker 2: lend us your analysis.
Speaker 5: No, thank you, Jason Chairs Now.
Speaker 2: Good on you mate. That is our Cameron Ponsonby, England
Speaker 2: based cricket writer on the appointment of Stephen Fleming as
Speaker 2: English Test cricket coach twelve twenty nine. Your chance to
Speaker 2: give us your reaction to the lines open on eight
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. I saw a bit of
Speaker 2: rhetoric during the week which suggested Stephen Fleming coaching England
Speaker 2: was somehow unpatriotic. I could not agree less with that.
Speaker 2: I have to say Stephen Fleming can coach whoever he
Speaker 2: wants to, just like any key week coach in any
Speaker 2: sport can coach any team that wants them. At the Helm,
Speaker 2: we have long since moved past the point where teams
Speaker 2: and nations only consider their countrymen and women to coach them.
Speaker 2: Appointments are made on ability, not nationality, and when Brendan
Speaker 2: mcallum got the England job, I heard some similar stuff
Speaker 2: and the secondary layer to it, which was probably to
Speaker 2: be fair, at the heart of any negativity was why
Speaker 2: can't he coach us? Look of New Zealand Cricket wanted
Speaker 2: Brendan mcallum or Stephen Fleming or anyone coaching the black Caps,
Speaker 2: they are absolutely free and able to explore that option.
Speaker 2: The feeling has always been that we can't compete with
Speaker 2: the money that is on offer elsewhere, and that's probably true.
Speaker 2: But if New Zealand Cricket really really wanted a certain coach,
Speaker 2: be it Stephen Fleming, Brendan McCullum or anyone they could
Speaker 2: if they wanted to, if they really wanted to, they
Speaker 2: could make it happen financially. The fact is, though, that
Speaker 2: taking over as Black Aps coach, Rob Walter has done
Speaker 2: a pretty exceptional job. I'm not sure too many of
Speaker 2: us knew that much about him before, certainly not as
Speaker 2: much as we did about Brendan McCullum or Stephen Fleming.
Speaker 2: But Rob Walter as very quickly and pretty quietly built
Speaker 2: up an excellent body of work, including the Tea series
Speaker 2: win over England in England, which has us now looking
Speaker 2: forward with great optimism towards the tour by India and
Speaker 2: our tour of Australia in the next six months or so.
Speaker 2: But on Stephen Fleming, I think this is a great
Speaker 2: appointment by England, extremely impressive bloke and as Camerger said,
Speaker 2: a slightly different type of character to Brendan McCullum, which
Speaker 2: was probably needed. Stephen Fleming's never coached international cricket, so
Speaker 2: I guess there's a small question mark there, but there's
Speaker 2: never been any question about his cricket in IQ or
Speaker 2: as man management ability. I mean, you don't survive and
Speaker 2: thrive for seventeen years in the cutthroat quadron of the
Speaker 2: IPL without having a bit about you. I think he'll
Speaker 2: be great for England. And even if he did have
Speaker 2: a thought that he was in some way being unpatriotic,
Speaker 2: which I doubt he is, it wouldn't be based on
Speaker 2: anything other than the odds snipe from cricket fans here
Speaker 2: who are probably just a bit gutted that he's coaching
Speaker 2: England and not us. Twelve thirty one, Dallas with you
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Speaker 7: I think it's a great appointment. I feel very proud
Speaker 7: as Akiwi that we're so well recognized and respected in
Speaker 7: English cricket and yeah, I think it's amazing that he's
Speaker 7: never actually coached the Test team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's Yeah, no, it is, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure he's had approaches. He's been up in the IPL
Speaker 2: with Chennai for yes, seventeen years. I mean even to
Speaker 2: last seventeen years in the IPL for whatever reason, you know,
Speaker 2: whether you get sick of it or they get sick
Speaker 2: of you, the results don't go your way. To last
Speaker 2: that long, you've got to have a bit about you.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing from Stephen Fleming.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any media with him. We reached out
Speaker 2: to him and he said, look, he can't really talk
Speaker 2: at the moment, but he will when the time is right.
Speaker 2: Really keen to find out from him why he felt
Speaker 2: like this was the right opportunity at this time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no, it will be interesting. I think it
Speaker 7: isn't a steak with Joe Route being captain. I think
Speaker 7: he's a terrible captain. He just seems to have no
Speaker 7: feel on the on the ground for the game and
Speaker 7: he always seems to over bowl.
Speaker 8: For Archer or.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think being a great batsman doesn't necessarily translate
Speaker 7: to Captaincy. I think we saw that with Williamson as well,
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think that's a bit of a weakness.
Speaker 7: But hey, I've got a prediction. Finally, go on, Ben Stokes.
Speaker 7: We're back for the ashes here, alright.
Speaker 2: I'll take the beat with you, Dallas. I'll take the beat.
Speaker 2: I'll take the beat that he won't be.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We bought on chocolate fish or something. I don't know.
Speaker 7: He'll be back. It'll be. They love drama over there,
Speaker 7: they love the drama, big comeback.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The other thing is I invented the word flemblele ehl
Speaker 7: p at l.
Speaker 2: Gm different kind of flem ha. Good on your Dallas,
Speaker 2: Thanks mate, You're right. I think we do it. We
Speaker 2: agree that they do like a bit of drama over there.
Speaker 2: It feels like to me though, and I you know,
Speaker 2: not saying that Brenda McCallum did, but it feels to
Speaker 2: me as though Stephen Fleming would have no time for that,
Speaker 2: would just not be interested in any drama whatsoever, he
Speaker 2: said a coach a cricket team. To be fair, Brenda
Speaker 2: McCullum was as well. I think drama just happens around
Speaker 2: around English sports teams. For whatever reason. Just on Joe Root,
Speaker 2: I hope that in his second crack at captain c
Speaker 2: that he aligns himself with some of the values of
Speaker 2: Steven Fleming, which you'll get the opportunity to do that.
Speaker 2: You know, the coach captain relationship in cricket is probably
Speaker 2: more integral to a team's success than in most other sports,
Speaker 2: the way that the two go together, and often you
Speaker 2: get a couple of similar personalities. And I think we
Speaker 2: probably had that with Brenda McCullum and Ben Stokes and
Speaker 2: Stephen Fleming and Joe Roots strike me as fairly similar
Speaker 2: types of cricketing personalities. And Cameron Ponsonby said said exactly that.
Speaker 2: He said, you know that they're both deep thinkers about
Speaker 2: the game. I like the tactics and the and the
Speaker 2: minutia of the game. So I hope that Stephen Fleming
Speaker 2: brings out the best and Joe Root, Hi Jason. The
Speaker 2: nonsense of some people objecting to our sports greats coaching
Speaker 2: elsewhere it started when Russell Coots and Brad Butterworth went
Speaker 2: to another team after the two thousand. America's carpets are
Speaker 2: a garbage, says Tony. People are free to use their
Speaker 2: skills anywhere they wish. Totally agree, Tony totally agree, Pinty
Speaker 2: correct decision, says this one. McCullum white bull, Fleming, red bull.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When when Brenda McCullum was first was first appointed as
Speaker 2: the Test coach, because that was the job he was
Speaker 2: appointed to first, they had split coaches and Brenda McCullum
Speaker 2: took the red ball job, and I guess we probably
Speaker 2: all thought, you know what, Brendan McCullum just feels better
Speaker 2: suited to white ball coaching. He was a brilliant Test cricketer,
Speaker 2: as we know, but white ball just seems to suit
Speaker 2: his personality, his approach, his aggression, that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Put it this way, if I said to you, okay,
Speaker 2: Brendan McCullum, Stephen Fleming, one of them is going to
Speaker 2: coach the white ball team, one of them is going
Speaker 2: to coach the red ball team. Which would you choose
Speaker 2: for which? It's funny, isn't it? That Stephen Fleming has
Speaker 2: made such a brilliant career out of white ball coaching
Speaker 2: and Brendan mullum got an opportunity at international level to
Speaker 2: coach red ball when it feels really natural though, it
Speaker 2: should be the other way around, and now it is so.
Speaker 2: Not only are we interested now in tracking what happens
Speaker 2: to England's test side, it's going to be very very
Speaker 2: interesting too, now, unencumbered from the test stuff, whether Brendan
Speaker 2: McCullum can make a real good guy of the white
Speaker 2: ball stuff. Jason, it is possible to accept that Stephen
Speaker 2: Fleming is perfectly free to do this and at the
Speaker 2: same time be a little disappointed that he wants to
Speaker 2: coach against his own country. Patriotism isn't the only virtual virtue. Rather,
Speaker 2: but it's undeniable that this isn't a patriotic choice. Yeah, look,
Speaker 2: I take the point, of course. I think we'd all
Speaker 2: love it. If I would have loved to have had
Speaker 2: Brenda mullen coach in the black Caps, would love to
Speaker 2: have had Stephen Fleming coach in the black Caps. That
Speaker 2: may happen down the track, but I already, in these
Speaker 2: days of modern professional sport, I fail to see how
Speaker 2: patriotism can be in any way ascribed as a you know,
Speaker 2: as a reason why somebody does or doesn't do something.
Speaker 2: If this is the right opportunity for Stephen Fleming, then
Speaker 2: he should take it. And he has twenty to one.
Speaker 2: Gonna take a right comeback talk some women's pole vault
Speaker 2: Golden bronze in Glasgow this morning. We'll cover that off
Speaker 2: when we come back.
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Speaker 2: Be coming up sixteen to one Golden bronze and the
Speaker 2: women's pole vault at the Calm Games this morning. Kennedy, No,
Speaker 2: she can't. It's a gold medal for New Zealand.
Speaker 12: Eliza McCartney has won the gold medal.
Speaker 13: Well, Nina Kennedy. We did not expect to have four
Speaker 13: sixty five on her card today as her best height.
Speaker 4: Got a silver.
Speaker 2: Medalist today and a guaranteed gold in.
Speaker 13: Glasgow for this woman here. Redemption for McCartney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eliza McCartney Gold imagineeris bronze. Olivia mctaggett finished fourth
Speaker 2: the other KIW that was the v there at the
Speaker 2: end of former Olympian Sarah Cowley Ross, who was on
Speaker 2: the call with Sky and offered some brilliant analysis. You
Speaker 2: must have really enjoyed that, Sarah oh, I loved it,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 13: Think New Zealand would have loved waking up to that result,
Speaker 13: or hopefully they got up early and watched it. But
Speaker 13: what a thrilling final and just so wonderful to see
Speaker 13: Eliza on top of the podium after such a long
Speaker 13: journey in the pole vault, and also to have you
Speaker 13: know her New Zealand teammate image and Ras there as well.
Speaker 2: Just before we unpack what happened in the competition, and
Speaker 2: just from your words there you also use the word
Speaker 2: redemption in commentary. And it has been quite the journey
Speaker 2: for Eliza McCartney, hasn't it Since she won bronze at Rio.
Speaker 2: What's that ten years ago?
Speaker 14: Now?
Speaker 13: Yeah, she shot to fame and she was only nineteen
Speaker 13: then and we forget that, you know, And it has
Speaker 13: been just a tumultuous journey, probably is an understatement for
Speaker 13: Eliza after that silver at the Gold Coast Common Math Games,
Speaker 13: follow years of Kelly's troubles inflammatory conditions, and she missed
Speaker 13: Tokyo Olympics, she missed the Birmingham Games, and you would
Speaker 13: have to say this is a story of resilience, of
Speaker 13: courage to keep going, and just the smile on her face.
Speaker 13: It was trademark McCartney, but also some tears in there
Speaker 13: as well because it means so much to her and
Speaker 13: her team.
Speaker 2: So we got to form me to seventy. Eliza McCartney
Speaker 2: had cleared every previous height at the first attempt Australia
Speaker 2: Nana Kennedy had a miss at four sixty five. So
Speaker 2: when neither of them could clear four seventy, Eliza McCartney
Speaker 2: took the gold on countback. So what did you make
Speaker 2: of her clearances? It for me to thirty four, to
Speaker 2: forty five, for fifty five and for sixty five all
Speaker 2: at the first attempt.
Speaker 13: Well, I'd heard that Eliza was in really good shape
Speaker 13: and those clearances certainly indicated that. And I think had
Speaker 13: the competition gone on Kennedy, if she had for seventy,
Speaker 13: I definitely think Eliza was in You know, you saw
Speaker 13: her attempt at three, her third attempt at four seventy.
Speaker 13: She's in brilliant shape and brilliant condition. I think that
Speaker 13: she's entering these championships for the first time in a
Speaker 13: long time injury free and got it really showed out there,
Speaker 13: you know her class and her temperament as well.
Speaker 2: When you're watching somebody in the pole vault, I don't know,
Speaker 2: we all just watch it with a sense of wonder
Speaker 2: that they can they can even put all of these
Speaker 2: moving parts together. What do you look for to tell
Speaker 2: you that somebody is pole vaulting really?
Speaker 7: Well, well, it starts with.
Speaker 13: The runner, and so with all the jumps in the
Speaker 13: athletics program, how someone runs really tells you a lot
Speaker 13: about then how they're going to take off, and then
Speaker 13: in the poll, how are they going to invert, how
Speaker 13: they're going to get over the bar, So the way
Speaker 13: they were running, the way they were covering the ground,
Speaker 13: all going forward, so then that they can store that
Speaker 13: kinetic and elastic energy in the poll to really.
Speaker 14: Launch them up and over.
Speaker 2: Many athletes have a steely determination on their face at
Speaker 2: the top of their run up, not just in pole vault,
Speaker 2: but in long jump and really at the start of
Speaker 2: a lot of events. There's a steely determination on athletes faces.
Speaker 2: By contrast, Eliza McCartney has this wide smile at the
Speaker 2: top of hers Do you think that's a deliberate part
Speaker 2: of her routine.
Speaker 13: I think it is now. I think that it's intentional.
Speaker 13: You know, when an athlete is having fun out there,
Speaker 13: and we've seen this across the common mask games, they
Speaker 13: are more inclined to embrace the moment and get out
Speaker 13: there and do their best. I mean the contrast was
Speaker 13: Nina Kennedy's face, which is always like that. Actually she's
Speaker 13: a bit of an assassin Kennedy, but she didn't have
Speaker 13: it today against McCartney.
Speaker 2: Imaginaris takes the bronze. Were you a bit worried when
Speaker 2: she missed her first term at four thirty?
Speaker 14: I was, actually I.
Speaker 13: Was thinking, oh God, please don't do this to us,
Speaker 13: because that's you know, to not clear a height at
Speaker 13: a game is just, you know, a field of vents.
Speaker 13: Well any inventor's worse nightmare. And for her to you know,
Speaker 13: settle the nerves down. She knew she had the height,
Speaker 13: she just needed to tidy up a few factors. And
Speaker 13: in Polville, you know, the margins are just so small,
Speaker 13: so you're off by a fraction and the jump sort
Speaker 13: of unravels itself. And you know, once she got that underway,
Speaker 13: you just saw it, and that your shoulders relaxed a
Speaker 13: little bit and then it was a great four forty
Speaker 13: five clearance and four fifty five clearance at on first attempt.
Speaker 2: Will she be happy with bronze, imaginaris?
Speaker 13: I think she will be because you know, she started
Speaker 13: the year before this year she hadn't jumped over four seventy,
Speaker 13: So I think yes, if you'd asked in the in
Speaker 13: the front half of the year, were her extash's high
Speaker 13: Absolutely in terms of heights. I know that, you know,
Speaker 13: after jumping for eighty one in June that then she
Speaker 13: got you know, had ale of sickness and a few
Speaker 13: other niggles. So I think today she'll be delighted four
Speaker 13: fifty five, you know, bronze in Birmingham, bronze in Glasgow
Speaker 13: and another major championship podium.
Speaker 2: I think I heard you mentioned a couple of times
Speaker 2: here in commentary. Today was the wind and the athletes
Speaker 2: looking over at the windsock to I guess get the
Speaker 2: optimum time to jump. How much of a factor was
Speaker 2: the wind today?
Speaker 13: Well it was huge, that's and that's why we didn't
Speaker 13: see those those great heights that these athletes have all
Speaker 13: jumped this year. I mean Nani Kennedy, she took the
Speaker 13: lives of the Oceana record off her for ninety five
Speaker 13: and to catapult into the sixth best jumper of all time.
Speaker 13: So this is not about a competition where you got
Speaker 13: to do your absolute best when conditions are like this,
Speaker 13: and particularly in the pole vot. The other factor that
Speaker 13: which I didn't mention in commentary was actually that the
Speaker 13: positioning of where they jumped, so the polevot was on
Speaker 13: on what we say in athletics on the d so
Speaker 13: on the curve as opposed to being on the straight,
Speaker 13: and that adds an extra element as well. You've got
Speaker 13: you know, there was races going on. They had to
Speaker 13: pause for metal ceremonies so that the height reflects the conditions.
Speaker 13: But they were able to handle the championship element of
Speaker 13: this competition very well.
Speaker 2: All right, So golden bronze and the women's pole vault
Speaker 2: still to come. Some key we interest in the track
Speaker 2: and field Ethan Olivia men's triple jump tonight, a couple
Speaker 2: of keys in the men's pole vault Tory Morby and
Speaker 2: the women's javelin sam Tana and the men's mile. What
Speaker 2: chance here we see a couple more medals?
Speaker 13: Perhaps I think that certainly in the field, and you
Speaker 13: never know. With the men's mile, it will be run
Speaker 13: very fast, I would say. And Josh, you know after
Speaker 13: you know, only setting the world record in the mile,
Speaker 13: and if you saw him in the heat, how teg
Speaker 13: he was, you know, trying to get his home crowd.
Speaker 13: The Scotsman get up for these gentlemen doing their qualifying race,
Speaker 13: So that will be hot. If Tann is in a
Speaker 13: good position, you never know what's going to happen. But
Speaker 13: I'm calling the triple jump tonight and then the javelin
Speaker 13: in the morning, and then.
Speaker 15: The pole vault.
Speaker 13: In the pole volt I would say, could be a
Speaker 13: cheeky bronze potentially, Again it will come down to strategy
Speaker 13: and the conditions and the javelin. Tory Morby, if she
Speaker 13: can get one over around sixty meters, she'll be in
Speaker 13: the mixer. And in the triple jump tonight. Ethan Olivia,
Speaker 13: who's one of the real talents of this team in
Speaker 13: terms of potential for the future. Will junior champion in
Speaker 13: this event. I think high sixteen to seventeen will be
Speaker 13: on the podium. That's definitely in his wheelhouse. But again,
Speaker 13: just like the pole vault, the wind conditions in the
Speaker 13: stadium will certainly be a factor in that trouble jump final.
Speaker 2: No, look forward to watching all of those keys in action.
Speaker 2: Just before you go, a word on Zoe Hobbs, who
Speaker 2: you know so well. Gee, what a moment for her?
Speaker 2: How significant is her? Is her one hundred meter gold?
Speaker 13: It is phenomenal Piney and Bosh even a few days later,
Speaker 13: makes me emotional just that you're with your intro there
Speaker 13: to her. I mean, what a gold. I think that
Speaker 13: it's captured New Zealand, which is wonderful to see. And
Speaker 13: you know, lots of people are talking about it that
Speaker 13: would never talk about sprinting before. And when you think
Speaker 13: about it, you know, out of all events at the
Speaker 13: Common Mark Games, out of all the sports you do
Speaker 13: in your life, lots of people have run one hundred
Speaker 13: meters at their school at Edicts Day. So it's an
Speaker 13: event we can all you know, have done in our lives.
Speaker 13: And Zoe winning you know, from lane seven in the rain,
Speaker 13: in the time, and the way she executed that race
Speaker 13: absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, Thank you so much, Sarah. Sarah Kelly Ross
Speaker 2: with us on Weekend Sports six and a half to one.
Speaker 2: Coming up, three to one one o'clock News and then
Speaker 2: joined in studio by Stephen Adams, who is back in
Speaker 2: New Zealand to help launch a brand new initiative alongside
Speaker 2: the Warriors to get more key week kids playing sport.
Speaker 2: Steven Adams after one.
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Speaker 2: Welcome into News Talks NB and Weekend Sport. I'm Jason Pine.
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Speaker 2: one oh seven. Stephen Adams has spent more than a
Speaker 2: decade forging an outstanding basketball career in the NBA. He
Speaker 2: has become one of our greatest sports people. Impact stretches
Speaker 2: well beyond the basketball court. Through his Pathways trust, he's
Speaker 2: already helped thousands of KIW kids access sport and the
Speaker 2: opportunities that come with it. And now he's teaming up
Speaker 2: with the one New Zealand Warriors on a new initiative
Speaker 2: designed to give even more young New Zealanders the chance
Speaker 2: to play, grow and thrive regardless of the sport they choose.
Speaker 2: It's a partnership built around removing barriers, creating opportunities and
Speaker 2: using the power of sport to make a real difference
Speaker 2: in young lives. Stephen Adams is back in the country
Speaker 2: and joins us on Weekend Sports. Stephen, thanks for popping in.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on this a wonderful initiative. Why was partnering with
Speaker 2: the Warriors the right fit for.
Speaker 8: You because we have a like minded his interest now
Speaker 8: we have similar interests. Just trying to help out the youth,
Speaker 8: starting from grassroots and just yeah, supporting as many kids
Speaker 8: as possible. Again, there's one thing about sport. It teaches
Speaker 8: you a lot about values, and especially the Kiwi values.
Speaker 8: Number one thing that the feedback I get from the
Speaker 8: kids that I fly over to the States is that
Speaker 8: they're very well mannered. They look after their things, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean, and other people's things. And that's
Speaker 8: like the biggest respect that I could get, honestly, because
Speaker 8: it's just it just shows like the character, and I
Speaker 8: think we have a very unique special character in New Zealand.
Speaker 8: We work hard, but then also respect everything.
Speaker 2: You know, and you mentioned the worries there you believe
Speaker 2: they share similar traits in the in the in the
Speaker 2: qualities I guess, and the values that they display. It
Speaker 2: felt like a good fit for you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because like again, like if if you want to
Speaker 8: pursue sports, then that's cool. That's more up to the individual.
Speaker 8: But the environment that we're setting it just gives the
Speaker 8: opportunity to do that. But if you if you want
Speaker 8: to pivot to something else, that's cool. You will still
Speaker 8: get something from it as well. And just partnering with
Speaker 8: each other, I think this just helps with the outreach
Speaker 8: and bring awareness to what we're doing, because it's really
Speaker 8: cool what we're doing.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 8: Honestly, like I enjoyed every time, and that's why I
Speaker 8: do it every year. It's like one of the most
Speaker 8: exciting times of the year for me, you know, coming
Speaker 8: back seeing the kids and then also just like looking
Speaker 8: back on say some of my first camps. Those kids
Speaker 8: who are at my first camp like ten twelve years ago,
Speaker 8: they're helping out at these camps, you know what I mean,
Speaker 8: and it's just like it's a crazy it's a really
Speaker 8: crazy feeling, but it's awesome that we've been building this
Speaker 8: long and then they're giving back to the next generation.
Speaker 2: Love that, man, love that. So, I mean, how important
Speaker 2: is simply getting access to organize sport because that can
Speaker 2: be a challenge for some families. How important is that
Speaker 2: to remove those barriers and make participation possible for as
Speaker 2: many kids as possible.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, that's exactly what we work on, men.
Speaker 8: So like obviously help Like my camps are all free.
Speaker 8: Try to make sure we just inject them with like
Speaker 8: free basketballs peril. And then also some of the sponsors
Speaker 8: we had meadow Fresh, so then they get a bunch
Speaker 8: of food, so the parents are happy. They get some
Speaker 8: milk and stuff like this. Very so when they come
Speaker 8: and pick up their kids, they don't have to stop
Speaker 8: into the grocery store or anything. So it's just stuff
Speaker 8: like that, bro, Like you're can access ability is huge.
Speaker 8: But as long as they get the basketball they could
Speaker 8: ribble it around and just participate in sport in general.
Speaker 8: Like awesome, That's that's all that matters.
Speaker 2: You often talk about the people who had belief in
Speaker 2: you when you were growing up. Who were those people
Speaker 2: and how much did they shape the journey that you've taken.
Speaker 8: There was a lot of people. It's hard to list
Speaker 8: all of them. But obviously right now on top of
Speaker 8: the head is like the Kenny McFadden.
Speaker 16: Uh.
Speaker 8: He was like he was like the like the leader
Speaker 8: of the basketball route. But along with that, it's like
Speaker 8: in terms of like character and stuff like that, it
Speaker 8: was a Kenny also. But then also my family blossom,
Speaker 8: she was with me in Wellington, my friends, and you know,
Speaker 8: just everyone in their basketball community, like everyone, everyone had
Speaker 8: their had their part in my life. And they're not
Speaker 8: like all of them are like one to one, like
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, it's not one more than the other,
Speaker 8: but they just all played some sort of role. So
Speaker 8: it's not just me, you know, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 8: it's all of them. They helped me, help me be
Speaker 8: me today.
Speaker 17: That you're.
Speaker 2: So if we look down the track, you know, a
Speaker 2: fan and when this partnership is a success, because it
Speaker 2: will be what would you like to see five or
Speaker 2: ten years down the track, what will success look like
Speaker 2: for this for this initiative.
Speaker 8: Well, the I think what success will look like is
Speaker 8: that we go to the communities, because again this camp
Speaker 8: is just one day in a city. What it'll be
Speaker 8: really cool to say is that they go back to
Speaker 8: their towns or whatever. And then there is a growth
Speaker 8: in basketball participation or sports participation in there because yeah,
Speaker 8: look there's a lot of days of the year, the
Speaker 8: rest of the year that they're still pursuing sport. That'll
Speaker 8: be awesome, you know what I mean, Because that's a
Speaker 8: fertile ecosystem if you will, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: It's not like I have to constantly inject something. It's
Speaker 8: just come back, you know, once a year or whatever,
Speaker 8: every two years whatever, come in and then they're still growing,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, and helping out in their
Speaker 8: own way, because it doesn't matter. The scale doesn't matter.
Speaker 8: It's just as long as they're going back. And then
Speaker 8: there's that constant like helping the youth and just bringing
Speaker 8: fun like basketball and values and stuff. That'll be awesome.
Speaker 2: Just on you, Stephen. You had ankle surgery in January,
Speaker 2: Mississian second half of the season with the Rockets. How's
Speaker 2: the rehab? Yeah, looking for Are you going to be
Speaker 2: right for the new season?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: We're checking that way, bro. It's hard to tell with
Speaker 8: like injuries, especially ankles, like big dudes, you know, like
Speaker 8: it's really tough, like in the books that they write about. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm not in there, you know, so it's more like
Speaker 8: the average size dude. So we have to you know,
Speaker 8: make some pivots and all that sort of oh stuff.
Speaker 8: Sorry guys, so all that sort of stuff. So but
Speaker 8: we're tecking well men. Our preseason starts in September, so
Speaker 8: very close. Yeah, we do. It's an exciting here, man, Yeah,
Speaker 8: it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, and for you, I mean over over eight
Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty regular season and playoff games since
Speaker 2: you first, you know, took that that that first course
Speaker 2: to step into the NBA. How different are you now,
Speaker 2: man from the Steven Adams who made his NBA debut
Speaker 2: for OKC in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 8: Oh just very different. Yeah, just a different human and
Speaker 8: general men, just you know, I mean, like but still
Speaker 8: the same if that makes sense. There's there's there's parts
Speaker 8: that's changed, and you know, you kind of go through
Speaker 8: trial and error so you make some adjustments, but then yeah,
Speaker 8: you kind of still keep to keep to being kiwi,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, as much as I can,
Speaker 8: I just try and be myself.
Speaker 2: How many more seasons? Sure can you get?
Speaker 18: On?
Speaker 14: You?
Speaker 8: I'll play as long until the wheels fall off, to
Speaker 8: be honest, man, I'll play. I love playing basketball, brother,
Speaker 8: you know, i'd much I'll definitely be super proud if
Speaker 8: I play long enough to see another Kiwi in the
Speaker 8: in the league, you know what I mean, that'll be
Speaker 8: that'll be fun.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a few coming through. I mean that there's
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you've kept tabs on this. There's some
Speaker 2: good young kids coming through the system. I mean, it
Speaker 2: might not be too far away before they do join
Speaker 2: you in the NBA one hundred percent.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's definitely some talented kids coming through from the Kiwis.
Speaker 8: But what was cool is that, like there's a lot
Speaker 8: of scouts actually looking down to New Zealand now, which
Speaker 8: is which is huge. And so yeah, anyway, we've been
Speaker 8: supporting them and like just about about those kids and
Speaker 8: getting that next generation through even just college broke like
Speaker 8: college and general just getting a scholarship, getting over there,
Speaker 8: get a free degree, all that gets money as well. Sweet,
Speaker 8: all good.
Speaker 2: Just a finish man. I mean, you've inspired so many
Speaker 2: Kiwis through what you've achieved, not just not just Kiwis
Speaker 2: who love the game of basketball, but but Kiwis who
Speaker 2: have a dream. When you talk to kids, what is
Speaker 2: your message to them? If they believe that that dream
Speaker 2: might be out of their reach.
Speaker 8: Well, I think what I've repeated the most is just
Speaker 8: like not like not listen to any of the naysayers.
Speaker 8: It's really tough because I mean I dealt with it too,
Speaker 8: like you know what I mean, just like people just
Speaker 8: doubt you, but like just having that general belief in
Speaker 8: yourself and just dedication, hard work and consistency. I mean,
Speaker 8: you could get you can get everything done, to be honest.
Speaker 8: So as long as you as long as you believe
Speaker 8: in that and you stick by that and not get
Speaker 8: swayed by like oh let's go to a party or
Speaker 8: just crack on, bro, and like all the other stuff
Speaker 8: will still be around, except you'll be a better person.
Speaker 8: You've proved it to yourself, you know what I mean,
Speaker 8: You've worked for like the people who supported you, you
Speaker 8: represented them well, so yeah, you'll be able to be
Speaker 8: be be awesome. You'll be able to be the man.
Speaker 2: This is a fantastic initiative. Congrats on it. Congrats on
Speaker 2: partnering with the one New Zealand Warriors on it. I
Speaker 2: think the benefits are going to be so far reaching. Stephen,
Speaker 2: great to see you, mate, Thanks for stopping it for.
Speaker 8: A chat, chairs mate, Thank you.
Speaker 2: You as well. Good to see if Stephen Adams joining us.
Speaker 2: He's partnered with the One New Zealand Warriors to support
Speaker 2: more Keiwek kids. The Warriors already operate nine academies from
Speaker 2: Fungadai to in for Cargol, eight nationwide camps for female
Speaker 2: athletes as well to provide opportunities for young New Zealanders
Speaker 2: to represent the Warrior's colors. And since twenty fifteen, Steven
Speaker 2: Adams has done the same with those basketball camps he
Speaker 2: was talking about, more than ten thousand Kiwi kids have
Speaker 2: been given the chance to play, to learn and to
Speaker 2: grow free of charge. So both organizations, the Warriors and
Speaker 2: Steven Adams have come together, joining forces to give greater
Speaker 2: exposure and access to sport for young people. Now, the
Speaker 2: fundraising campaign for what the Steven Adams Pathway Foundation is
Speaker 2: going to be launched at the Warrior's home game against
Speaker 2: the Panthers on Friday, so there'll be all sorts of
Speaker 2: touches around that. If you're lucky enough to have a
Speaker 2: ticket to that game, and I know not everybody has,
Speaker 2: but if you are off to go Media Stadium next Friday,
Speaker 2: you'll see a number of special touches around the ground,
Speaker 2: skills challenges, exclusive giveaways, chance to meet Steven Adams who
Speaker 2: was actually going to be there, and you can support
Speaker 2: this campaign. You can make an automatic three dollar donation
Speaker 2: really easily. Just text Stephen it's st e v e
Speaker 2: n Stephen or up the Wars. I think you know
Speaker 2: how to spell that to nine three three to make
Speaker 2: an automatic three dollar donation. So Stephen st e v
Speaker 2: e in or up the Wars or one word to
Speaker 2: nine three three an automatic three dollar donation. What a
Speaker 2: what an initiative of this, Gary, says Jason. Last week
Speaker 2: Stephen had a coaching date at Walton Nash Stadium in
Speaker 2: Lola Hut. It was amazing. Everyone had a huge smile
Speaker 2: on their face when they left. There was a grocery
Speaker 2: parcel and a ball to take home or a fantastic opportunity. Honestly,
Speaker 2: Steven Adams, you know, I'm not sure if you've had
Speaker 2: the opportunity to read his autobiography. It's a really good read.
Speaker 2: But just the way he continues to be a force
Speaker 2: for good using his platform that he has worked so
Speaker 2: hard to create for the benefit of others, and to
Speaker 2: give in particular young Kiwi's the chance to get involved
Speaker 2: in sport. I've been at a couple of those days
Speaker 2: where Steven Adams has you know, has kids along, you know,
Speaker 2: to be part of his camps, and the utter joy
Speaker 2: that he brings. I mean, he is just in the
Speaker 2: you know, in the most positive form of this sentence,
Speaker 2: he is just a big, big kid himself. He clearly
Speaker 2: loves it, loves being out there with the kids, and
Speaker 2: they clearly love it as well. So yeah, up the
Speaker 2: wars or Stephen to nine three three, you'll make it
Speaker 2: automatic three dollar donation. Great to get the chance to
Speaker 2: chat to Steven Adams on his new initiative one nineteen
Speaker 2: Herod News Talks head be got another studio guest after two.
Speaker 2: Actually Stephen Adams has gone now, but Shane Cameron, one
Speaker 2: of our greatest ever boxes is and after two he'll
Speaker 2: be taking the same seat. Actually that Stephen was just
Speaker 2: in to talk about his new book. Next up, though,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk some darts. The Auckland Darts Masters
Speaker 2: are back. They're a fortnight away at Spark Arena and
Speaker 2: among those traveling down from the PDC, Jian von Faine
Speaker 2: Rising Dutch darts player who made the final of the
Speaker 2: World Championship earlier this year at Alexandra Palace season to
Speaker 2: join us for a chat on his career and the
Speaker 2: Auckland Darts Masters when we come back here on Weekend Sport.
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Speaker 2: A star studded international lineup featuring world champions, Major winners
Speaker 2: and some of the sports most exciting emerging talent will
Speaker 2: headline the twenty twenty six New Zealand Dance Masters, coming
Speaker 2: up at Spark Arena in Auckland on Friday August fourteen
Speaker 2: and Saturday August fifteen. Eight PDC professionals will take on
Speaker 2: the best players from New Zealand and Australia in front
Speaker 2: of another capacity Auckland crowd, and the international field features
Speaker 2: former world champion Girwin Price, crowd favorite Stephen Bunting, Australian
Speaker 2: number one, Damon Hetter, former Major winner, James Wade, Welsh
Speaker 2: star Johnny Clayton, Northern Ireland sensation, Josh Rock, former European
Speaker 2: champion Ross Smith and rising Dutch star gianfan Faye. It's
Speaker 2: all about Hen van Vey, something you'd have been dreaming out.
Speaker 14: Since he was a Gan Vanvey. He's in the Championship final, pepeats.
Speaker 17: Garry Anderson by six, six to three in what was
Speaker 17: an a solar world of the game.
Speaker 2: What a world championship he had. John von Venders with
Speaker 2: us on Weekend Sport. Thanks for joining us, John, very much.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to having you down here in New Zealand.
Speaker 2: Have you visited New Zealand before?
Speaker 14: No, It's going to be my first time, so I'm
Speaker 14: looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: We're looking forward to having you here as well. Well.
Speaker 2: You're still only in your early twenties, but you've already
Speaker 2: established yourself as one of darts bright young stars. When
Speaker 2: did you first realize that you could make a career
Speaker 2: out of darts?
Speaker 14: Oh, yeah, it was difficult. I think during COVID times.
Speaker 17: I played a lot of darts in yeah, my backroom,
Speaker 17: vial Wakam, I played a lot of online darts, and
Speaker 17: then I played a lot of like PDC talk card
Speaker 17: holders back down who played at fantastic level and I
Speaker 17: gave them really good games.
Speaker 14: So at that moment and I realized, well.
Speaker 17: If I get this into the PDC tournaments and maybe
Speaker 17: I can have a career out of this. And yet
Speaker 17: when I was so fast afterwards, but I think that
Speaker 17: was the first realization when I was like, oh, maybe.
Speaker 14: I can have a good career out of this.
Speaker 2: Every young Dutch player coming through inevitably. As compared to
Speaker 2: Michael van Gowin, is that flattering or is it a
Speaker 2: comparison that you you try to avoid.
Speaker 14: Well, no, it's not something I'm trying to avoid.
Speaker 17: Of course, it's flattering when you get compared to Michael
Speaker 17: Ango and them, but it's also a comparison which you
Speaker 17: are almost never going to win because he's won so
Speaker 17: many tournaments, three will titles or counters of majors. So
Speaker 17: it's even though I'm ahead of him on the world
Speaker 17: ranking right now, I don't see myself ahead of him
Speaker 17: ever because yeah, everything he has done for the game.
Speaker 17: But yeah, of course it's always nice to be compared
Speaker 17: to one of the best players in the sport.
Speaker 2: Your game has developed really quickly over the past couple
Speaker 2: of years. Where do you think the big improvements have
Speaker 2: come in your game.
Speaker 17: I think it's all about experience and also confidence. Yes,
Speaker 17: it's been going so well the last couple of years.
Speaker 17: The first year was always you know, different arenas you're
Speaker 17: playing new players, you're you're getting experience, and then afterwards,
Speaker 17: you once you have those experience, you know what you're
Speaker 17: going to expect on the stages and in front of
Speaker 17: the big crowds, and you know what the players are like.
Speaker 17: You're not playing them for the first time anymore. And
Speaker 17: then you start beating them and you know you can
Speaker 17: beat them. Then afterwards because of your confidence is growing
Speaker 17: and I think once that has clicked for me, it's
Speaker 17: really shut me up the rankings.
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty six World Championship, you went all the
Speaker 2: way to the final, wins over Luke Humphries and Gary
Speaker 2: Anderson among others on the way there. How do you
Speaker 2: reflect back on the World Championships at the start of
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 14: Yeah, fantastic, of course.
Speaker 17: You know, going into that tournament, I never won a
Speaker 17: game at Alexandra Pellens there so that was the main
Speaker 17: goal for the tournament. But then as soon as that
Speaker 17: was out of the way, I felt so much relief.
Speaker 17: I was actually enjoying myself up on that stage and
Speaker 17: I didn't feel any pressure whatsoever. So yeah, looking back
Speaker 17: at it now, of course, it was a fantastic tournament
Speaker 17: and I think, really really my breakthrough.
Speaker 2: It looks amazing on television and I know a lot
Speaker 2: of our listeners have visited Alexandra Pellas for the World Champs.
Speaker 2: What is that arena like to walk into and to
Speaker 2: play in?
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's an iconic venue. You know. It's because it's
Speaker 14: on top of the hill.
Speaker 17: So as soon as you drive up the hill, especially
Speaker 17: at night, when you see Alexandra Palace with all this
Speaker 17: lights lit up, I still get goosebumps every time I
Speaker 17: drive up that hill.
Speaker 14: And then as soon as you enter.
Speaker 17: It's especially on stage because it's not as big as
Speaker 17: people may think, so it's very loud in there. The
Speaker 17: crowd are very close to the stage. It's one big
Speaker 17: noise inside the arena. So every time I'm what that stage,
Speaker 17: I'm enjoying myself and it's Yeah, it's always a special feeling.
Speaker 2: Did your performances there, you know, enriching the final earlier
Speaker 2: this year? How much of a boost did that give you? John?
Speaker 2: How much confidence did you gain from thinking to yourself, right,
Speaker 2: I really belong among the best players in the world.
Speaker 14: Yeah, massively.
Speaker 17: Yeah, As I said, I've not won a game there
Speaker 17: before that tournament, so there was always hanging above my
Speaker 17: head like, Okay, he's a good player, but he still
Speaker 17: hasn't done well in the World Championship.
Speaker 14: And as soon as I make that final, those doubts
Speaker 14: were gone. Everyone. Well, yeah, of course it's the biggest
Speaker 14: tournament of them all.
Speaker 17: You put yourself on the map for the whole world,
Speaker 17: and that gave me so much more confidence going into
Speaker 17: twenty twenty six. You know, you being, as you said,
Speaker 17: the likes of Luke Humphreys, Gary Anderson on the biggest
Speaker 17: stage and the biggest tournament of them all, and if
Speaker 17: you can do it there, you can do it everywhere.
Speaker 14: So yeah, that tournament gave me so much more confidence.
Speaker 2: And you're now regularly playing against those sorts of pliers,
Speaker 2: the best players in the world. What do you learn
Speaker 2: from competing against players of that caliber so regularly?
Speaker 14: Yeah, you learn a lot, you know, especially with the
Speaker 14: Premier League.
Speaker 17: As you said when you played the week in, week out,
Speaker 17: you're gonna lose a lot more games so you're gonna
Speaker 17: learn a lot more about yourself and how you take
Speaker 17: those losses, because that's what happens when you play the
Speaker 17: best week in week out, and you can see they
Speaker 17: have done it for years. It's my first year playing
Speaker 17: them week in week out, so you can see what
Speaker 17: it's like and how they deal with it. Maybe you
Speaker 17: can ask for some tips here and there. But I
Speaker 17: think it's been mostly in learning curve about myself this year.
Speaker 2: Is there any plaier you particularly enjoy facing because you
Speaker 2: know they'll bring out the best in you.
Speaker 14: What's the difficut one?
Speaker 17: I always like to play Luke Humphreys, but for myself
Speaker 17: growing up, Gary Anderson was my idol, so I always
Speaker 17: like to play Gary, especially that World's semi final game.
Speaker 17: We were both playing really well and I was I
Speaker 17: think that's my most enjoyable match out of my whole
Speaker 17: career so far, because of yeah, playing my idol on
Speaker 17: the biggest stage, and so yeah, I always like to
Speaker 17: play Gary.
Speaker 2: Wonderful. The margins at the top level are incredibly fine.
Speaker 2: It's the biggest difference do you think between good players
Speaker 2: and great players? Is it the mental side of the game.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's one of the major aspects of the game.
Speaker 17: As I said, because this year I've played so many games,
Speaker 17: You're going to lose many more games.
Speaker 14: So if you're mentally that strong, you know how to
Speaker 14: take losses.
Speaker 17: And if you keep only thinking about the good times
Speaker 17: that during the match, you could beat anyone. And I
Speaker 17: think that's especially at the at the top end of
Speaker 17: this sport. That's so crucial for your game, because if
Speaker 17: you're mentally not strong enough, you're you're going to crumble
Speaker 17: on the pressure. So yeah, I think the mental aspect
Speaker 17: of the game is something that's maybe even bigger than
Speaker 17: the people think.
Speaker 2: And what are some of the things you've really worked
Speaker 2: hard on?
Speaker 11: Me?
Speaker 2: Everyone talks about your scoring power and it's so impressive,
Speaker 2: but are there other things that you have specifically worked
Speaker 2: the hardest on over the last year or so?
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think my finishing part, because last year my
Speaker 14: finishing was really good.
Speaker 17: Yes, I'm scoring well, but I'm not like Luke Littler,
Speaker 17: for example, you can outscore everyone. I'm not in that
Speaker 17: like that region at the moment, but I know I
Speaker 17: can out finish anyone. And if I take all my
Speaker 17: finishes like I've done two weeks ago at the world matchpeed,
Speaker 17: I can even with a bit less scoring, I could
Speaker 17: still get to the semifinals, for example. So I think
Speaker 17: that's an aspect of my game I've really focused on,
Speaker 17: and I think that's working.
Speaker 2: Very well for me so far. Do you have a
Speaker 2: favorite double?
Speaker 14: Double sixteen? That's my favorite double?
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would say the same thing. Yes,
Speaker 2: it seems to be a favorite. We see you walk out, Jian.
Speaker 2: You know, that's the first time we see you when
Speaker 2: or any of the players, is when you walk out.
Speaker 2: What about before that? What is your pre walkout routine?
Speaker 2: Do you listen to music? Do you like to stay relaxed?
Speaker 2: What do you do before you walk into those those
Speaker 2: big arenas?
Speaker 14: Mostly I start trying to say relaxed.
Speaker 17: I pract for about two and a half hours before
Speaker 17: my game, especially with all the players, we'd like to
Speaker 17: joke around for a little bit. But as soon as that, yeah,
Speaker 17: you get close to the game, like thirty or twenty
Speaker 17: minutes before your game, I put my headphones in, get
Speaker 17: some music on. I listened to some good music to
Speaker 17: get me in the good vibe and then in a yeah,
Speaker 17: emotional headspace, and then I'm ready for the game, get
Speaker 17: focused in and then yeah, and then it's getting onto
Speaker 17: the stage of course, all.
Speaker 2: Right, and we're looking forward as a side of seeing
Speaker 2: you here in New Zealand. I guess the feature of
Speaker 2: these tournaments is that is that our local players, our
Speaker 2: best players, get a shot at the world's beast. How
Speaker 2: dangerous can those matches be for you?
Speaker 14: Very dangerous? Yeah, you've seen it in the past. There's
Speaker 14: a lot of good players from the likes of New.
Speaker 17: Zealand, barsso Australia, So it's I'm very excited to going
Speaker 17: out there spend some time in the lovely country in
Speaker 17: New Zealand. But yeah, of course the players are are
Speaker 17: fantastic there as well, and I think it's a good
Speaker 17: opportunity for them to show the work what they're capable of.
Speaker 14: But yeah, of course the PDCA are going to be
Speaker 14: the favorite.
Speaker 17: But if we're not playing at our full hundred percent,
Speaker 17: then we can be in for some real danger because
Speaker 17: they are capable of vetting us.
Speaker 2: We're really looking forward to having you down here in
Speaker 2: New Zealand. John, all the best as you travel down.
Speaker 2: We look forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time for a chat today, No problem,
Speaker 2: thank you very much, No, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2: John John fun Fayne there a Dutch rising star and
Speaker 2: as I say, rising's probably not the right word. He
Speaker 2: made the World Championship final against Luke Littler earlier this
Speaker 2: year at the World Championships at Alexandra Palace. He's one
Speaker 2: of eight PDC professionals so going to be here. Gwin Price,
Speaker 2: Stephen Bunting, Damon Hetter, James Wade, Johnny Clayton, Josh Rock,
Speaker 2: Ross Smith and John vun Fayne are going to be
Speaker 2: there at the New Zealand Darts Masters Spark Arena in
Speaker 2: Auckland on Friday August fourteen and Saturday August fifteen. Or
Speaker 2: is a great event and the best key we players
Speaker 2: are going to get the chance to lock horns with
Speaker 2: those PDC professionals and perhaps see if they can cause
Speaker 2: an upset on the stage at Spark Arena twenty eight
Speaker 2: away from two. Just back to the Commonwealth Games for
Speaker 2: a sec another big night of action coming. Just having
Speaker 2: a look at what we can look forward to tonight
Speaker 2: and overnight into tomorrow morning. Talking to Sarah Cally Ross's
Speaker 2: last hour about the Gold and bronze for Eliza McCartney
Speaker 2: and Imagenneris and the women's pole vault. She'd identified a
Speaker 2: couple of metal possibilities in the track and field tonight
Speaker 2: and overnight ten past nine. This is all New Zealand times.
Speaker 2: It's easier to do it this way. Ten past nine
Speaker 2: Tonight Ethan Olivier in the men's triple jump that is
Speaker 2: a straight final, so he'll be jumping for a medal
Speaker 2: tonight from just after ten past nine. Then tomorrow morning
Speaker 2: five past six, James Stayin and Nick Southgate take part
Speaker 2: in the men's pole vault, relatively unknown compared to the
Speaker 2: likes of Eliza McCartney, Imageneris, Olivia mctaggett, but James Stain,
Speaker 2: Nick Southgate and the men's pole vault five past six,
Speaker 2: six point thirty five. I think Tory Moreby is a
Speaker 2: real medal chance, and the women's javelin kind of been
Speaker 2: tracking her progress in recent times, and I just wonder
Speaker 2: whether Tory Moreby might be a bit of a smoky
Speaker 2: for a medal in the women's javelin. And then Sam Tanner,
Speaker 2: our man Sam Tanner in the iconic men's mile that
Speaker 2: goes tomorrow morning at five to eight, So seven fifty
Speaker 2: five tomorrow morning, Sam Tanner in the Men's Mile, the
Speaker 2: famous iconic black singlet well. At the top of the show,
Speaker 2: we pointed out that it's fifty years to the day
Speaker 2: since John Walker won his Olympic gold in Montreal in
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six, fifty years ago. Incredible that flowing blonde
Speaker 2: hair of John Walker's down the home straight with Keith
Speaker 2: Quinn's commentary bringing him home. Sam Tanner Tomorrow morning. Different
Speaker 2: kind of stature. Sam Tanner doesn't have the flowing blonde locks.
Speaker 2: There's the iconic mustache though, so let's so Sam can
Speaker 2: be there or thereabouts and the Men's Mile are the
Speaker 2: kiwis in action in the Silver Ferns played the semi
Speaker 2: finals a night against England. They've been good, haven't they?
Speaker 2: The Silver Ferns, putting all the off field controversy to
Speaker 2: one side and concentrating on the netball in the semis
Speaker 2: against England, Australia, Jamaica and the other semi the medal
Speaker 2: matches tomorrow night on the Bowling Green. The men's pair,
Speaker 2: the Power Men's Pair and the Power of women's pair
Speaker 2: all in action. Judo a number of our judokas are
Speaker 2: on the matt tonight, Joel Robinson, Elliott Connolly, Kuana Christi,
Speaker 2: Moira de Villiers and Noah Wallace and their various weight
Speaker 2: classes they have preliminary bouts and then hopefully into the
Speaker 2: metal fights as well. And on the track cycling, well,
Speaker 2: we've got high hopes again for some of these cyclists.
Speaker 2: Sam Dakin and the men's sprint, George Jackson, Keegan Hornblow
Speaker 2: and Marshall Rwood and the men's ten k scratch race,
Speaker 2: Ali Wallaston, Emily Sherman and Bryani Bortter and the women's
Speaker 2: twenty five k points race, Emmy Emma Foy with Jesse
Speaker 2: Hodges as her pilot in the women's tandem B one
Speaker 2: thousand meter time trial, and Alise Andrews well, you'd have
Speaker 2: to think she's a very good chance of a gold medal.
Speaker 2: Olivia King as well in the women's one thousand meter
Speaker 2: time trial. Those are the kiwis in action tonight and
Speaker 2: heading into tomorrow morning at the Glasgow Commonwealth Games. Will
Speaker 2: certainly keep eyes on that for you right through the
Speaker 2: night and if you don't get the chance to watch
Speaker 2: any of it, then we'll update you as part of
Speaker 2: our News Talk Zibbie Sports bulletins tomorrow morning twenty four
Speaker 2: to two. Wonder how the Commonwealth Games are being received
Speaker 2: in Australia. They just seem to get so many medals,
Speaker 2: don't they, particularly in the pool. There is it getting
Speaker 2: the cut through over there of the likes of a
Speaker 2: World Championship ar and Olympic Games. Probably not, but you'd
Speaker 2: have to think there'd be a degree of celebration on
Speaker 2: the other side of the ditch. Arroustrating correspondent Adam Peacock
Speaker 2: going to join us in just a moment, maybe give
Speaker 2: us some insight into that and other Australian sporting matters
Speaker 2: when we come back.
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Speaker 2: One forty here on News talks 'b but a live
Speaker 2: sport for you this afternoon. We'll keep eyes on it
Speaker 2: for you. The NPC is underway for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: A Sea Tasman just getting home against North Harbor last
Speaker 2: night down in Nelson thirty one twenty nine. I thought
Speaker 2: North Harbor might cause an upset down there. Not to
Speaker 2: be Counties Manaco against Taranaki from five past two this afternoon, Southland, Otago,
Speaker 2: Stag Day, Stag Dane and the Cargill. Anybody's heading along
Speaker 2: to that, just drop us a note and let us
Speaker 2: know what the weather's like and how big it's going
Speaker 2: to be. Canterbury Auckland Man talk about rivalries under the
Speaker 2: roof in christ Dues tonight. That game is at ten
Speaker 2: past seven tomorrow, Northland, munawar Tu and Faraday from what
Speaker 2: time's that game? Five past two? And then Wellington against
Speaker 2: Hawks Bay but of a Hurricanes derby there at five
Speaker 2: past five tomorrow afternoon. Let's get you across the Tasman
Speaker 2: though to Australian correspondent Adam Peacock has with us as
Speaker 2: usual on a Saturday, just saying before the breakout about
Speaker 2: the Commonwealth Games, I looked at the medal table. You're
Speaker 2: miles ahead of everybody else on the medal table one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight medals all up, including fifty five
Speaker 2: gold medals. The next best, by the way is seventeen
Speaker 2: gold medals. So you've got three times as many golds
Speaker 2: as anybody else. So are the Commonwealth Games getting any
Speaker 2: sort of cut through, any sort of exposure over there
Speaker 2: in Australia.
Speaker 18: Yeah, not as much as it used to. We're noticing it,
Speaker 18: but it's certainly not at Olympic levels. It's on and like,
Speaker 18: it's on Channel seven over here, so they've obviously gone
Speaker 18: real heavy on it, and other news outlets are covering it.
Speaker 18: But if your busy live like for instance, I've had
Speaker 18: a pretty busy week doing some other stuff and I
Speaker 18: haven't been fully across it, So you can easily not
Speaker 18: be across it if you don't know what I mean.
Speaker 18: It's not like everyone's talking about it, like I felt
Speaker 18: like everyone was talking about the World Cup when the
Speaker 18: Olympics is on. Everyone's talking about the Olympics. Is not
Speaker 18: quite at that level, but nonetheless it's not detracting from
Speaker 18: firstly the performances and the importance of this for our
Speaker 18: younger athletes of getting a crack on the international stage
Speaker 18: for the first time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that resonates over here too. Everybody talked
Speaker 2: about the World Cup when the Olympics are on. You're right,
Speaker 2: the Commonwealth Games are almost sort of happening off to
Speaker 2: one side necessarily, and to be fair, the time's under
Speaker 2: a bit tricky as well, with a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: happening in the middle of the night. But yeah, that
Speaker 2: sort of feels like it is over here. Just on
Speaker 2: your swimmers, though. Goodness may if I hear that bloody
Speaker 2: Australian national anthem one more time at the pool. Thank god,
Speaker 2: the swimming's over. Why, I mean, why are you so
Speaker 2: good in the pool?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think.
Speaker 18: It's ebbed and flowed, and I think we've just got
Speaker 18: this younger crop supporting what was a very good generation
Speaker 18: of swimmers. There's financial support, It's not huge, but there
Speaker 18: is support for our youngest swimmers coming through. I mean,
Speaker 18: the reason why the American system works so well is
Speaker 18: because they've got college as their development system. We just
Speaker 18: have this halfway where young athletes are happy to balance
Speaker 18: UNI and getting in pool. However many times they do it.
Speaker 18: It's yeah, it's one of those things. It's like ingraining
Speaker 18: our culture that we can swim because we're surrounded by
Speaker 18: ocean and yeah, we're just and there's a lot of
Speaker 18: pools as well. Because it's so warm, we can jump
Speaker 18: in half a year so yeah, all those factors just
Speaker 18: mean that we've got this depth of talent coming through
Speaker 18: and then when they get the coaching structures right, which
Speaker 18: they obviously have, these things happen.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the NRL, where the Roosters are on
Speaker 2: a bit of a charge since they lost to the
Speaker 2: Dolphins quite heavily back on the twelfth of June. I
Speaker 2: think it's six straight winds, including putting eighty two on
Speaker 2: the Cowboys the other night. Are the Roosters sort of
Speaker 2: now almost RL kind of joint favorites I guess with
Speaker 2: the Panthers.
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, Penrith have been the front runners all year. Look,
Speaker 18: I asked the question last week, Okay, this week, and
Speaker 18: I think we find out who the second best team
Speaker 18: in the comp is, or who's ranked behind Penrith. I
Speaker 18: don't think we need to even have the weekend to
Speaker 18: get the answer. Give them what I have it on
Speaker 18: Thursday night that was extraordinary. And the Cowboys, you know
Speaker 18: they're not going to finish last. They're going to finish
Speaker 18: nowhere near last. They could finish in the eighth still,
Speaker 18: and that was a mortal destruction of them. It just
Speaker 18: clicked for the Roosters. It showed everything what they've got.
Speaker 18: They've got this attacking flare which is hard to stop.
Speaker 18: So yeah, they end up playing Penrith in the Grand Final.
Speaker 18: That's going to be a really good look because you've
Speaker 18: got two contrasting styles and that was just out of
Speaker 18: this world what they did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are dismantling, absolute dismantling of the Cowboys. The Warries,
Speaker 2: of course, have a but to say about this. They've
Speaker 2: got the Titans this afternoon. Warriors lost to the Bulldogs
Speaker 2: last week. Titans have got two wins from their last two. Men. Actually,
Speaker 2: reckon the key weis will be okay on the Gold Coast.
Speaker 18: Not entirely convinced. Gold Coast have got better in the
Speaker 18: last month or so. They're playing their best of the season.
Speaker 18: But realistically, if they're going to be a top four side,
Speaker 18: which we all think they are, the Warriors, well they've
Speaker 18: got to take care of this one. So tricky one,
Speaker 18: tricky one.
Speaker 2: Look forward to seeing what Everson the Panthers of course,
Speaker 2: across to go media next Friday night. That'll be a cracker.
Speaker 2: Just before I let you go football. The fallout from
Speaker 2: Gianni Infantino's plan to sell off part of the world
Speaker 2: Cup to private investment has been pretty swift from all
Speaker 2: around the world. What gage you're getting from from Football
Speaker 2: Australia and the wider football and community over there.
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's It's one of those ones where I think
Speaker 18: one man's power and ego has just gone beyond the
Speaker 18: Norse and got carried away and he's been smashed for it.
Speaker 18: And it probably took you ay For to come out
Speaker 18: and slipe him over the head about it and say no,
Speaker 18: that this is not happening, and then the rest to follow.
Speaker 18: Like Infantino, I think has read the room and gone, well,
Speaker 18: I've got immense power here because I don't even need
Speaker 18: you Ah for this. I just need to get the
Speaker 18: majority through of votes of the two hundred and eleven
Speaker 18: to pass this, which is questionable in itself. But the
Speaker 18: AFC have come out and hit hit him back, even
Speaker 18: the region where the World Cup was just held, hit him,
Speaker 18: hit back at him, and he's just totally misread it.
Speaker 18: And yet you know, within twenty four hours you've got that.
Speaker 5: I do know.
Speaker 18: We didn't mean that like little tweets to what we
Speaker 18: were saying. It's like, yeah, come on, man, everyone seeing
Speaker 18: straight through it, and this is what you get when
Speaker 18: you get this immense amount of power and then self
Speaker 18: self belief in a leader that you go and do
Speaker 18: things like this. And this will be a documentary for sure,
Speaker 18: how he's how he's power and level of status has
Speaker 18: grown to the point where he just forgets about reality.
Speaker 18: It's just extraordinary.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: But reality is now that there must be pressure building
Speaker 2: on him. How is this documentary going to end? Is
Speaker 2: it going to end with the door hitting in on
Speaker 2: the backside on the way out?
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it does. I don't know exactly how
Speaker 18: at the moment because no one stands against him, but yeah,
Speaker 18: I think an alternative is put up now that the
Speaker 18: hard thing is like, for instance, you're in Oceania OFC
Speaker 18: New Zealand, they can't and Australia was a bit the same.
Speaker 18: We can't just come out and just go no, no, no,
Speaker 18: we're not doing that because we've got an obligation in Australia,
Speaker 18: the stakeholders here in Australia about what does forty minion
Speaker 18: look like. It's supposed to twenty million. We're part of
Speaker 18: the AFC, the OFC, for instance, their Champions League is
Speaker 18: funded by FIFA Panawatu's vote counts as much as France's
Speaker 18: though with FIFA like wonder one. So that's where Infancy
Speaker 18: now is going with this. He knew that he would
Speaker 18: have had massive support with some of the lesser nations
Speaker 18: financially speaking, and unfortunately he's kind of misread the wind
Speaker 18: direction and as said, God hammered for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, or I made always good chatting Australian sport
Speaker 2: with her, Thanks for taking the time. Is always has
Speaker 2: the new cricket pod going. I've watched it but during
Speaker 2: the week it looks like you're having fun with it.
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, good, one week down. So we'll do a
Speaker 18: couple of episodes a week and it's enjoyable. Actually, not
Speaker 18: that there's a lot to talk about in Australian cricket
Speaker 18: at the moment. Not much is happening, but plenty of
Speaker 18: happening with Kiwi's being Englishmen. Another one. You've given them
Speaker 18: another one?
Speaker 2: Well, I know, yeah, they love their Kiwi's over and
Speaker 2: over in England. Yah, Stephen Fleming the new teast coach
Speaker 2: for England. That'll be an interesting one to keep tabs on.
Speaker 2: Good on yet, I'm always good to chet mate. We'll
Speaker 2: do it again next Saturday.
Speaker 7: Thanks body, Thanks mate.
Speaker 2: That is out of Peacock Air Australian correspondent. He's with
Speaker 2: us around the time every Saturday. A couple of texts
Speaker 2: to get through. Don't forget the Sharks. Yeah, the Sharks.
Speaker 2: The Sharks, they're where are they at the moment?
Speaker 11: Fourth?
Speaker 2: Did I say? They got up to fourth on the ladder?
Speaker 2: Is still to play this weekend? I think they've won
Speaker 2: their last four games. The Sharks here, we shouldn't count
Speaker 2: them out. It's getting quite tight at the top, isn't
Speaker 2: it look at the NROL ladder. We'll talk about this
Speaker 2: more after two. Going to preview the Warriors against the
Speaker 2: Titans with Matt Russell, who's calling the game. Panthers thirty
Speaker 2: four points from eighteen games, Roosters thirty four from nineteen games,
Speaker 2: including their absolute demolition job the other night of the
Speaker 2: Cowboys eighty to twelve. I still couldn't believe that score
Speaker 2: when I wake up on Friday morning and saw at
Speaker 2: eighty two twelve. Warriors thirty points from eighteen games, Sharks
Speaker 2: thirty points from eighteen games, Dolphins thirty points from nineteen games.
Speaker 2: So five teams really in with a shout of the
Speaker 2: top two, then you drop down to the rabbit O's
Speaker 2: twenty six Nights, twenty six are the Night, seventh are
Speaker 2: the Nights are going to make the finals? Eddy, unbelievable
Speaker 2: stuff from your boys. The Bulldogs are on twenty six.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys, despite that hammering, are on twenty six. Then
Speaker 2: see Eagles and then you drop out. Did I see?
Speaker 2: Craig Bellamy said that he is now accepting that the
Speaker 2: Storm won't make the six, won't make the eighth. Yeah,
Speaker 2: bit of a fall from grace for the Storm who
Speaker 2: were always so good. So yeah, the Sharks, I think
Speaker 2: we have to watch them circling around Marsus Piney. What
Speaker 2: about a chocolate fish on the Magpies to beat the
Speaker 2: Wellington line somewhere I must I'll take that bed. I'll
Speaker 2: take that bed. I'll take the bed of the Wellington
Speaker 2: lines to beat Hawk's Bay. Although I do note I
Speaker 2: was looking at the lineups for this game a bit
Speaker 2: of a Hurricane's darby as I say, I do note
Speaker 2: that Harry Godfrey is back, which is great news because
Speaker 2: he missed all of the season, just gone the Super
Speaker 2: season with another injury. Seems to have had terrible luck
Speaker 2: with injuries. Harry Godfrey, but he's in the tea jersey
Speaker 2: tomorrow of Hawk's Bay for our Fuckatava is halfback, So
Speaker 2: the nine ten combo Fuckatava Godfrey. That looks pretty good
Speaker 2: and you know a sprinkling and other Super Rugby players
Speaker 2: through the Hawks bay side. But as there is in
Speaker 2: the in the Wellington Lives lineup, du plus Kalifi is
Speaker 2: there of course co captain Caleb Delaney and other Hurricane
Speaker 2: in the second row Callum Callum Harkin running the cutter,
Speaker 2: played a lot of fullback for the Hurricanes during Super Rugby.
Speaker 2: He's the first five. I'll take the bet mask if
Speaker 2: you want to. If you want to put a chocolate
Speaker 2: fish on it, I'll put a chocolate fish on it.
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Speaker 2: Auckland Inn PC Tonight eighteen and a half thousand tickets sold,
Speaker 2: twenty thousand here we come outstanding. This is of course
Speaker 2: at one YUS zeal And Stadium at Takaha in christ
Speaker 2: which I think the same sort of thing happens when
Speaker 2: a new venue opens anywhere, is that people want to
Speaker 2: get along regardless of what's on there, not saying that
Speaker 2: this isn't a good game. I mean Canterbury Auckland. It's
Speaker 2: one of the most famous rivalries in all of New
Speaker 2: Zealand provincial rugby. I think back on some of the
Speaker 2: titanic battles that these two teams have had down the years,
Speaker 2: and you gravitate towards that very very famous shield challenge
Speaker 2: with Auckland winning the shield off Canterbury moves at nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty five. From memory, I remember I saw some footage
Speaker 2: of that during the week. I'm not sure what the
Speaker 2: context was, but the crowd just, you know, right up
Speaker 2: on the basically touching the white lines at Lancaster Park
Speaker 2: that day and Auckland up were they about twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four nil up? And then Canterbury came charging back, Auckland
Speaker 2: on the shield, John Kerwin batting it behind that final
Speaker 2: kick I think Wayne Smith would have put up and
Speaker 2: JK goes back and bats it behind you get a
Speaker 2: penalty again she if we did that these days not
Speaker 2: then so Canterbury Auckland to night that's great. If they
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Speaker 2: we're joined in studio by one of our great heavyweight boxes,
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Speaker 2: really raised in rural Tenured Otto, just an hour in
Speaker 2: land from Gisbon, but went on to become one of
Speaker 2: our great fighters. His book is out, it's called Mountain
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Speaker 2: and we start in the NRL where the Dolphins have
Speaker 2: scrapped hard to eventually beat the Dragons.
Speaker 9: Tend to play both teams a little bit out in
Speaker 9: their feet at the moment Marshall kick on the Flagler
Speaker 9: Flegler soft.
Speaker 2: That book straight through the middle.
Speaker 3: That's too easy.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight twenty two. The Dolphins continue to solidify their
Speaker 2: spot in the eighth and the Bulldogs have also crept
Speaker 2: into the playoff positions.
Speaker 3: Oh it opens up here, finishing star Stephen crowding the
Speaker 3: number six? What's there?
Speaker 2: And Hender Breathe come on with the job in this
Speaker 2: second half thirty six twenty two, Continuing Melbourne's Missouri in
Speaker 2: the NPC fins up the Tasman Muckle started this season
Speaker 2: with a hard fought winn at Trafelga Park I.
Speaker 14: Under stand that, can you hear it?
Speaker 3: And it's all of it Missy that made him out
Speaker 3: of it back here nor parlot give him takes.
Speaker 7: Tiant top on bout here he could.
Speaker 2: Shack alive of the mistakes of part on attack. But Tira, Tom,
Speaker 2: tell me if I'm hoover thirty one twenty nine the
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Speaker 2: Key we gold for Devin Briggs in the Velndrome overnight
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Speaker 9: One more lup to go and he's gone out over
Speaker 9: a second now surely he can hold on from me, Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's going to be a big fights, super quick start.
Speaker 9: There may be a deceleration. No, it's one point five now,
Speaker 9: so win the final bend. Coming up to the finish line,
Speaker 9: it's Devin Briggs that's going to take the gold battle
Speaker 9: out to one point eight in the end.
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Speaker 2: Be nine past two. Shane Cameron's story is one of
Speaker 2: the great New Zealand sporting journeys. Raised in rural Tinto
Speaker 2: and our Inland from Gisbon, he didn't even take up
Speaker 2: boxing until his late teens, but went on to become
Speaker 2: one of the country's most successful heavyweight fighters. We are
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Speaker 12: Number four, but at W be your Asia Pacific, W
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Speaker 5: Champion?
Speaker 12: Shap Cavin locked camera, He's the news. Here's a Pacific.
Speaker 14: Champion.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Shane Cameron won multiple New Zealand and regional titles, represented
Speaker 2: New Zealand at the Commonwealth Games, shared the ring with
Speaker 2: some of the biggest names in world boxing, and headlines
Speaker 2: the biggest fight in New Zealand boxing history against David
Speaker 2: Tour in two thousand and nine. But the story's about
Speaker 2: much more than what happened inside the ropes. It's one
Speaker 2: of resilience, setbacks, redemption and finding purpose beyond sport. Shane
Speaker 2: has now put it all into a new autobiography, Mountain Warrior,
Speaker 2: which is released this month. It's an honest inflection on
Speaker 2: his life, his career, and all the lessons he's learned
Speaker 2: along the way. Shane Cameron joins us in studio. Great
Speaker 2: to see him. I congratulations on the book. Are you
Speaker 2: happy with the way it's come out?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 16: Thank you very much mate. After that introduction, I can't
Speaker 16: wait to hear myself speak hey, oh my gosh, yeah, no, mate, yeah,
Speaker 16: I am happy with the book. You're definitely happy with
Speaker 16: the book. And then yeah, yeah, just passing, you know.
Speaker 16: And how am I going to say?
Speaker 11: Really?
Speaker 16: When I when I read the synopsis of the book
Speaker 16: that I didn't really wasn't that not that keen on doing?
Speaker 16: Because I didn't think I was worthy enough of a book.
Speaker 16: And then I read that, I'm like, oh, that's you know,
Speaker 16: so I needed an angle in my head. So as
Speaker 16: to why I would write a book would be to
Speaker 16: help people that would like me, thinking dumbat school, dyslexic,
Speaker 16: where they really struggled. But you know, if you set
Speaker 16: your mind on something and willing to work hard, you
Speaker 16: can achieve anything.
Speaker 2: Your roots are in rural New Zealand and that features strongly,
Speaker 2: particularly in the early part of the story, but right
Speaker 2: throughout the story as well. How much did your upbringing
Speaker 2: shape the fighter and and the man that you've become.
Speaker 6: Yeah, big part of that, mate, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 6: The upbringing, it's.
Speaker 16: Definitely not for the fainthearted, you know, riding the horse
Speaker 16: to school and just the stuff that we did as
Speaker 16: young kids, Me and my brothers. You know, we're all
Speaker 16: tough buggers to mate, all the same. Dad was tough man, so,
Speaker 16: you know, fruit down and for far from the tree.
Speaker 11: A you know.
Speaker 6: So, but no, I love that wouldn't change anything for
Speaker 6: the world.
Speaker 18: You know.
Speaker 16: It was a great upbringing. We left, were left our
Speaker 16: own devices. Mum, she was amazing.
Speaker 6: Just yeah, we just we just left our own devices
Speaker 6: and we just found our way, you know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know it was it was.
Speaker 6: It was great, mate, the upbringing. And you know, there's
Speaker 6: a lot in the book. You're you're you'll see and
Speaker 6: go out that kind of happened. Did that happen for real?
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, that happened for real.
Speaker 2: I thought that a few times. I say, I thought that, surely,
Speaker 2: surely there's a bit of there's a bit of GST
Speaker 2: on that, But no, the more I read, the more
Speaker 2: I thought, you know what, he's telling the truth and
Speaker 2: nothing but the truth. The thing that I found really
Speaker 2: interesting is that boxing didn't come into your life until
Speaker 2: like you're late teens. She went to the UK. You
Speaker 2: met the Bogra's family at a at a pub. They
Speaker 2: invited you back for Sunday lunch or something like that
Speaker 2: or dinner. You end up being friends with them. You're
Speaker 2: watching TV at their place and there's boxing on the
Speaker 2: TV and you go, hey, I would mind even to
Speaker 2: go at that? Is that really what happened?
Speaker 6: That's what happened, mate? Oh my god.
Speaker 16: You bring up the Boger's family and what a legend. Yeah,
Speaker 16: the legend family. And that's how that's how it panned out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: I went there.
Speaker 16: I was nineteen years of age watching some boxing on
Speaker 16: TV on a Sunday morning, hungover, and I'm like, oh am,
Speaker 16: I giving that sport to go. You know, I think
Speaker 16: I'll be good at that, you know. And for me,
Speaker 16: I've got a strong mind. When I set my mind
Speaker 16: on something, I will do whatever it takes to try
Speaker 16: and achieve it. Yeah, And that's sort of how it started, mate,
Speaker 16: That's how it started. I didn't have any boxing experience
Speaker 16: apart from maybe having too many beers and thinking I
Speaker 16: was a tough guy and maybe yeah in the pub,
Speaker 16: but other.
Speaker 6: Than that, yeah, I don't recommend doing that.
Speaker 2: But anyway, but then and then so then Peter Bogers,
Speaker 2: who was the Sun yeah and became one of your
Speaker 2: best mates, sits up this boxing ring and you're in
Speaker 2: the front garden and you're sparring. And then and then
Speaker 2: he's inviting guys and to fight you. This is almost
Speaker 2: like fiction, but it's true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 16: So I was in there with Peter sparring and he
Speaker 16: was actually a better than me, and he kept hitting
Speaker 16: me on the nose and I wasn't used to getting
Speaker 16: head on the nose and my note my eyes were watering,
Speaker 16: you know. And at the same time, a forestry truck
Speaker 16: went by with some of the boys they worked at
Speaker 16: the end of the road and they will forestry boys.
Speaker 16: And he stops the truck and he goes, oh, who's
Speaker 16: your toughest guy, And they go, oh, that's old Jimmy.
Speaker 16: He's down in the down at the yard. They go here,
Speaker 16: tell him to come back. Shane wants to fight, and
Speaker 16: I'm looking at them, going, no, I don't want to
Speaker 16: fight anyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 16: So then they go get him and they come bring
Speaker 16: him back up, and then I bloody, Yeah, I knocked
Speaker 16: two of us front teeth out in the front lawn.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, sorry?
Speaker 2: When did it shame? When did it?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I've never boxed, but it
Speaker 2: feels like it must be quite addictive. When did it
Speaker 2: start to become something that you thought, you know what,
Speaker 2: I want to see how far I can take this?
Speaker 16: Yeah, And that was what my mentality was, and so
Speaker 16: I want to see how far I can take this.
Speaker 16: And it probably wasn't really until I turned professional and
Speaker 16: when I was in Las Vegas, even though I thought
Speaker 16: David to at some point, you know, but like earlier on,
Speaker 16: we were living in the same house and I was
Speaker 16: sparring with I did rounds with David. But then I
Speaker 16: did some rounds with some other world class heavyweights and
Speaker 16: I was matching it with him, and I was doing well.
Speaker 16: I'm going, oh, man, I reckon, I could probably do
Speaker 16: something here, you know. But up until that point, I
Speaker 16: just wanted to see how far I could go. You
Speaker 16: know there was after winning the Commonwealth Games medal, and yeah,
Speaker 16: so it might have been earlier than that, but anyway,
Speaker 16: but my mentality as that anyway, Man, I just got
Speaker 16: to I want to be the best at everything that
Speaker 16: I do, and as Debata will on the best at
Speaker 16: everything I do. But that is my mentality. You know,
Speaker 16: same with business, same same, same same.
Speaker 2: You're spart with Mike Tyson. That in itself, that sentence
Speaker 2: is a great sentence.
Speaker 11: What was he like?
Speaker 2: And did anything surprise you about him as a boxer
Speaker 2: and as a and as a.
Speaker 6: Person as a fighter.
Speaker 16: Yeah, how explosive he was, and how fast and how
Speaker 16: accurate he was. Yeah he punched hard, but you know
Speaker 16: David Ta punches harder. But but yeah, just his ferociousness
Speaker 16: and and yeah, and that was sort of probably coming
Speaker 16: towards the end of his career. And even Jeff Fennick,
Speaker 16: his his coach at the time, he said, he's as
Speaker 16: good as any other heavyweight over over three rounds. You know,
Speaker 16: you get him past three four rounds, you big chance
Speaker 16: you you eat them. And that's sort of what happened
Speaker 16: in his last fight against Kevin McBride. You know, he
Speaker 16: started fast, first two minute rounds. I could just see him.
Speaker 16: He started in a fade and then he just yeah,
Speaker 16: he just bailed out. But great, great experience.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 16: Like you know, I don't think I would have had
Speaker 16: the success of my boxing career if I hadn't done
Speaker 16: that experience of sparring Mike Tyson for two weeks, you know,
Speaker 16: because you have an experience like that. And my mentality
Speaker 16: was when I left that that training camp and I
Speaker 16: come home and I'm thinking, I survived two weeks sparring
Speaker 16: with the baddest man on the planet. I go, well,
Speaker 16: no one really is going to intimidate me after that,
Speaker 16: and no one's really going to skim me after that.
Speaker 6: So then I'm you know, I'm I'm but you still
Speaker 6: got to work hard, you still got to do all
Speaker 6: the things.
Speaker 16: You still got, all the training, you got, all that stuff,
Speaker 16: and that all amounts to just a strong, confident fighter.
Speaker 16: And that's basically what I become, you know, just strong
Speaker 16: confident fighter. And I'm saying I won every fight, but
Speaker 16: I wanted most of them, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the David to a Fight two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: Obviously a big part of the story was writing about that.
Speaker 2: More difficult than you thought it might be or not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it was.
Speaker 16: It was probably the right time. It was probably the
Speaker 16: right time, you know, and that was probably a reason
Speaker 16: why maybe you know, the right timing for the book maybe,
Speaker 16: but it was you know, there's another reason about that anyway,
Speaker 16: which I might have mentioned. But yeah, I can talk
Speaker 16: about it now, you know, I couldn't talk about it
Speaker 16: for ten teen, twelve years because of just man and
Speaker 16: I think it just I was just thinking the other
Speaker 16: day it was just the magnitude of it, how huge
Speaker 16: the fight was, how big the promotion was, and how
Speaker 16: I talked it up, and how confident I come across
Speaker 16: and you know, and that was genuine. I was confident
Speaker 16: I was going to win the fight. And then it
Speaker 16: finished like that, It finished like that, like I didn't
Speaker 16: even get through, you know, I only just got through
Speaker 16: the first round. Was man, I'm thinking, is that all
Speaker 16: you did?
Speaker 6: Shane?
Speaker 8: Is that all?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 6: I'm just going I'm better than that, you know, I'm
Speaker 6: better than that. But just there was just a man,
Speaker 6: it was it was.
Speaker 16: It was a big learning curve moment, just but just
Speaker 16: one of the and I've done it the fighters, you know,
Speaker 16: I did it to Montebert, the guy who beat David Tour.
Speaker 6: You know, I put them the sleep in.
Speaker 16: Four rounds, and I'm like, I actually felt sorry for him.
Speaker 16: I'm sitting in the changing room and I could visualize
Speaker 16: his changing room. You know, I had feelings for him.
Speaker 16: I think, ah, you know, and that's what happened to
Speaker 16: day too, when he hasn't.
Speaker 6: Done it to me.
Speaker 16: You know, I was mortified. I was depressed, I was sad.
Speaker 16: I was all of those things for a long time.
Speaker 16: But you know, I just my favorite saying, it's not
Speaker 16: how you for, it's how you rise. You know, you
Speaker 16: just got to dust yourself up. You know, I always say,
Speaker 16: and I say that quite a lot. You've got two options.
Speaker 16: You've always got two options. One to keep going, the
Speaker 16: other one to give up. You know, and giving up
Speaker 16: is never an option for me, in business, or in
Speaker 16: life or in sport, as much as you want to
Speaker 16: give up. And sometimes it's easy, because it's easy to
Speaker 16: give up. Anyone can give up, but not anyone can
Speaker 16: keep going and keep fighting, keep pushing forward. And that
Speaker 16: could be you don't have to be a boxer, you know,
Speaker 16: it could be in school, you know, in tough times.
Speaker 16: But that's how you grow as a person with the
Speaker 16: tough times. If you're not pushing yourself out of the
Speaker 16: comfort outside your comfort zone, you're not being challenged. If
Speaker 16: not being challenging, then you're not growing. And if you're
Speaker 16: not growing, oh I don't know where you're going.
Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing. I mean, the book's so honest, man, brutally honest.
Speaker 2: Was there anything that you're wrestled with before deciding that
Speaker 2: you would include it? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Not really, you know, Well, I don't know. I probably
Speaker 6: need to read the book again. I'm short, I got
Speaker 6: a short I got a short term memory.
Speaker 16: Man, I don't really know some of the stuff that
Speaker 16: I said this in the book, but it's all genuine
Speaker 16: and you know, and I'm not a good reader. And
Speaker 16: Steve Kilgallen did a great job of being a ghostwriter
Speaker 16: for the book, and he he pestered me for like
Speaker 16: a month, you know, because it took two years.
Speaker 6: To write the book. And I can't blame it all
Speaker 6: on everyone else.
Speaker 16: I can blame it on myself for probably the first
Speaker 16: probably six weeks, because he sent me the whole draft
Speaker 16: and he goes read it chain and.
Speaker 6: I'm going, oh, that's the worst thing. I can ever
Speaker 6: do read. I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 16: Then I started reading. I'm going, oh, I just I'm
Speaker 16: getting a headache just looking at it.
Speaker 2: And then I didn't do it.
Speaker 6: He goes, how's the book? And I am started, Man,
Speaker 6: I'm struggling to read it. And then then made Wayne.
Speaker 6: He goes, no, I'll do it in an audio. Hey
Speaker 6: can you do that?
Speaker 16: And he's like a like a tech legend. He goes yeah,
Speaker 16: and he did it in an audio and then it
Speaker 16: just read it back to him.
Speaker 6: I'm going, oh, this is magic.
Speaker 16: Yeah, And within within two days I read go to
Speaker 16: Steve cole gall and I've read it. He goes, no,
Speaker 16: you didn't go yeah, I did the audio read it
Speaker 16: back to me. Yeah, so that's how Yeah, so good man,
Speaker 16: so good.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You've said the phrase before, and you use it a
Speaker 2: lot in the book. It's not how you fall, it's
Speaker 2: how you rise. And resilience is clearly something that that is,
Speaker 2: you know, a defining quality in your life. I mean,
Speaker 2: you've built successful businesses since retiring. How challenging has that been?
Speaker 2: I mean, can you compare preparing for a big fight
Speaker 2: with you know, with with the battles and the challenges
Speaker 2: you have in business since you're retired.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, there are, there are challenges, but nothing like
Speaker 16: a challenge and going into a fight and going into
Speaker 16: battle where, man, this is a fight game. You know,
Speaker 16: this is a fight game where you can get seriously hurting,
Speaker 16: you knock the f out, you know, it can be
Speaker 16: not a good night for you and get humbled and
Speaker 16: then all of a sudden you're going to face the media, face,
Speaker 16: the public, face of friends and family.
Speaker 6: You know, all of that stuff.
Speaker 16: So so doing stuff outside my comfort zone outside of boxing,
Speaker 16: it's not too much of an issue, you know, Like
Speaker 16: doing Dancing with the Stars. That was probably the second
Speaker 16: challenging thing that I did that was so tough. I
Speaker 16: don't know how to dance before, and I still don't
Speaker 16: know how to dance Africa because it's all choreographed, you know.
Speaker 16: Bless our narrative courties.
Speaker 6: She did a great job with me.
Speaker 2: The last chapter of the book, it's called Paying the Price,
Speaker 2: talks about the effects of your chosen sport on your
Speaker 2: future well being, specifically your suspicion that you may have CTE,
Speaker 2: which can't be diagnosed until after you die. Yeah, do
Speaker 2: you worry about what the rest of your life will
Speaker 2: be like.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I do sometimes, Yeah, I do. I do at
Speaker 16: times because I do struggle with my memory with short
Speaker 16: term stuff. I know my memory probably wasn't better that
Speaker 16: good when I was younger, but it's hard to compare.
Speaker 16: I have a lot going on, but I'm not trying
Speaker 16: to downgrade it, but like, yeah, but I do feel
Speaker 16: sometimes like a man, I just struggle to remember that
Speaker 16: or or because I'm OCD, so that that helps because
Speaker 16: I put I don't lose stuff, you know, not like
Speaker 16: other people that I know that don't have any having
Speaker 16: any punched in the head ortoever, or they're pretty smart,
Speaker 16: but they still lose a lot of things. So I'm
Speaker 16: quite happy about that that I'm I'm OCD and everything
Speaker 16: has to go into the right place and then everything wherever.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so anyway, you know what I mean. But yeah,
Speaker 6: so hopefully nothing comes of it any any bad.
Speaker 16: But I know, you know, being punched in the head,
Speaker 16: you know by some you know, for seventeen years, it's
Speaker 16: got to take us told at some point maybe hopefully not,
Speaker 16: but yeah, well just worry about that when when that
Speaker 16: comes to it.
Speaker 6: I did see a professional about it.
Speaker 16: I've seen a few professionals, but I did want to
Speaker 16: see a professional last year and I wanted just to see,
Speaker 16: you know, and she just didn't worry me about anything.
Speaker 16: She just goes, just live healthy lifestyle, do lots of training,
Speaker 16: and just do she goes. You can't focus on what
Speaker 16: if some this could happen and that could happen.
Speaker 2: So that's what I do.
Speaker 16: I just do that stuff and that's my lifestyle. I
Speaker 16: love my fitness, my health and well being and and
Speaker 16: and the outdoors, and that's that's what I do. And
Speaker 16: just and what will be what will be.
Speaker 6: And then that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great attitude, mate. Just to finish. When
Speaker 2: people finish reading this book Mountain Warrior, what do you
Speaker 2: hope that they remember most? Do they do? You do
Speaker 2: you hope that they remember Shane Cameron the boxer or
Speaker 2: the man behind the box and gloves.
Speaker 6: I just want to people to read the book and
Speaker 6: then just go.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 16: You know, you can achieve whatever you want to achieve
Speaker 16: if you just sit in your mind to it.
Speaker 18: You know.
Speaker 16: That's that's it, you know, because that's how I got
Speaker 16: my success, by surrounding myself with good people and just
Speaker 16: working hard, you know, because I didn't have an education,
Speaker 16: but I just worked hard and just found my way.
Speaker 16: And there's always a way, and you find your way
Speaker 16: and you just be surprised what you can achieve. You
Speaker 16: can be unstoppable if you see your mind to it.
Speaker 2: It's a great book, Shane. I absolutely loved reading it.
Speaker 2: Found out a lot about you, learned a lot and
Speaker 2: some great messaging for boxing fans and for human beings.
Speaker 2: Shane Cameron Mountain Warrior with Steve Kilgallen. It's available very
Speaker 2: very soon. Thanks for stopping and mate, great to get
Speaker 2: the chance to chet.
Speaker 6: To you appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, no, thank you. Shane Cameron there joining us
Speaker 2: in the ZB studio. Check it out. Mountain Warrior on
Speaker 2: salette at all the normal places soon to twenty five
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Speaker 2: o'clock this afternoon.
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Speaker 2: V to twenty eight. The Warrior's Face a big test
Speaker 2: This afternoon. They head to the Gold Coast to take
Speaker 2: on a Titan's side that suddenly found a bit of
Speaker 2: confidence back to back wins for the Titans. The Warriors,
Speaker 2: on the other hand, looking to bounce back after a
Speaker 2: disappointing outing last week. That the have done it again
Speaker 2: the Blue and White of Jennifury.
Speaker 9: I'm making a finals run full time at a Corps
Speaker 9: Jannebury eighteen the Warriors six.
Speaker 2: Five o'clock kickoff this afternoon. That's New Zealand time. One
Speaker 2: of the best callers in the business, Matt Russell, is
Speaker 2: on the mic for this one. He joins us. Now
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the table, I'm looking at the season, Matt,
Speaker 2: and how important this game is in terms of the
Speaker 2: context of the Warriors season in their charge to the
Speaker 2: top two and top four. Does it have a bit
Speaker 2: of a must win feel about it?
Speaker 11: The ladder will tell you it's not must win, won't it.
Speaker 11: But I sort of feel like they need a big
Speaker 11: left at the moment the Warriors. We know that last
Speaker 11: year and in other seasons when it's come to this
Speaker 11: pointy end of the campaign, they just haven't lacked that
Speaker 11: punch that's required to really bed down a top two
Speaker 11: or top four finish. Well. This year, that chance is
Speaker 11: there again and they're going to be walking into quite
Speaker 11: the atmosphere today. General admission tickets are sold out. There's
Speaker 11: a big tea week intingents out East Queensland. Many of
Speaker 11: them will be at Seabar Superstadium, So I sort of
Speaker 11: feel that even though the Warriors are on the road today,
Speaker 11: they might even have the majority of support inside the venue.
Speaker 11: So if fat to be a genuine top four, top
Speaker 11: two team, I think, given what's gone on this season,
Speaker 11: they must be beating the Gold Coast today. So short
Speaker 11: answer you the question, it's huge for Andrew Webster's team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for you keep us on the Gold Coast. So yeah,
Speaker 2: look looking forward to seeing a few Warriors jerseys in
Speaker 2: the crowd this afternoon. Last week's lost to the Bulldogs
Speaker 2: bit of a reality check. What will Andrew Webster have
Speaker 2: demanded most from his side during the week and the
Speaker 2: lead up to this one?
Speaker 11: I think to stay calm and to ignore voices like
Speaker 11: mine saying come on, Warrior show, it's the best put
Speaker 11: it forward now. But what he will absolutely want to
Speaker 11: bet down is a defensive application that served them well
Speaker 11: to start the season, because let me tell you, Gold
Speaker 11: Coast are dangerous right now. That one two in a
Speaker 11: row and this spine playing under Josh Hannah, the first
Speaker 11: year NRL coach, has been fantastic in recent weeks. Count
Speaker 11: O Kinney at the back has been dynamic, Rookie Olie
Speaker 11: Pasco has been a fine there and dummy half and
Speaker 11: we know the halves young Zane Harris and jumping out
Speaker 11: of the ground and Jaden Campbell he's fully resistible. So
Speaker 11: there's a one six seventy nine that is creating and
Speaker 11: doing damage and certainly is good enough to upset the Warriors.
Speaker 11: So I'm sure it all starts defensively for the Warriors.
Speaker 11: Let's roll your sleeves up and see if you can
Speaker 11: find the same defensive application we've seen.
Speaker 2: Earlier this season one sixty seven nine. It's such an
Speaker 2: important spine, isn't it. Luke Metcalf Matt there's so much
Speaker 2: talk about him over here, hasn't yet got another opportunity
Speaker 2: at first grade. What's your view on this? Mate? Should
Speaker 2: Andrew Webster go to Luke Metcalf.
Speaker 11: Well, let's paint the picture. First, he had naciel injury
Speaker 11: that saw him return after the first few rounds this year,
Speaker 11: then picked up a hamstring injury. By memory, it was
Speaker 11: against the Sharks in Cronulla earlier this season and hasn't
Speaker 11: played NRL since.
Speaker 18: Now.
Speaker 11: I've been asked this a lot, and the Warriors our
Speaker 11: top four for a reason because Tomorrow Martin and Janelle
Speaker 11: Harris Aviva have been fantastic in the jumpers six and seven.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 11: It is unfortunate for Luke Metcalf, who is an NRL
Speaker 11: player every day of the week right But when the
Speaker 11: Warriors are winning and they're at the right end of
Speaker 11: the table, what justifies Andrew Webster making the change? If
Speaker 11: they are delivering and they have. I've praised those halves reputedly,
Speaker 11: not just for their on ball for but also defensively.
Speaker 11: I think they're underestimated defenders. So it's a comfortable position
Speaker 11: for coach Webbs to the being to know that if
Speaker 11: there is a hiccup, if there's a suspension or an injury,
Speaker 11: then Luke Metcalff comes straight back in. But at the
Speaker 11: same time, none of the defeat, certainly successive weekends have
Speaker 11: been diabolical enough for him that so I want to
Speaker 11: change my hearts because that's a massive piece of surgery.
Speaker 11: What happens if he does that and one gets a
Speaker 11: little discontent and then Luke's form isn't quite there or
Speaker 11: he gets injured or suspended, then it's a bit awkward
Speaker 11: to bring the bloke you drop back in so I
Speaker 11: can sort of understand what Andrew Webs is doing. As
Speaker 11: hard as that is for Luke Metcalf and as genuine
Speaker 11: as his claims are for NRL.
Speaker 2: Rugby League, Charms Nickel click star back in the number
Speaker 2: one jersey for the Warriores. How important might.
Speaker 11: He be outstanding person to have on standby? And there's
Speaker 11: the situation that we can translate to the halves because
Speaker 11: it came to our Picky has been great, hasn't he
Speaker 11: Those fast feet at the back? Certainly out of the
Speaker 11: modern mold of rugby league fullbacks diminutive but still confident
Speaker 11: in the air with fast feet meat a reading, great
Speaker 11: way to start your sets. Well, I think Charles Nicolok
Speaker 11: crook star, who's what hasn't been a starting fullback for
Speaker 11: the best part of three months? What it come that
Speaker 11: Frandre Ribsters go, you know what Charms you're in? Look
Speaker 11: what he did last week when required when Taine was
Speaker 11: forced off. I thought Charms was fantastic in the forty
Speaker 11: five minutes he played. And if I'm coach Webster, I'm
Speaker 11: not losing much sleep the fact that I've got charms
Speaker 11: filling in for pain.
Speaker 2: We started to get towards the point of the season, Matt,
Speaker 2: where points differential matters, wins matter. Obviously there's real jockeying
Speaker 2: for position. Can you sense that familiar urgency now around
Speaker 2: teams chasing finals football?
Speaker 11: Absolutely I can, and it was on show last night
Speaker 11: in Melbourne. I did the game Storm hosting the Bulldogs
Speaker 11: Storm Brave at Canterbury, knowing that if they win they
Speaker 11: go inside the top eight. They found that winning kick
Speaker 11: and they rely on their senior players, the likes of
Speaker 11: Burton and kick out and criton. It might be a
Speaker 11: bit the same for the Warriors today. You look through
Speaker 11: that lineup and you say, well, the senior players, the
Speaker 11: leaders of the two front rowers there in Fisher, Harris
Speaker 11: and Barnett, they've got a big job to play against.
Speaker 11: The starting front rowers for dol Coast in mofod Awake,
Speaker 11: Tino Farsu Mala. Are we when's the last time He's
Speaker 11: a little question, when was the last time the two
Speaker 11: starting front rowers in each team were both co captain,
Speaker 11: So the eight and the ten on both sides of
Speaker 11: the team yesterday are joint leaders of their teams and
Speaker 11: I think they've got to play a huge role all.
Speaker 2: Right, production time out the keywis in the crowd this
Speaker 2: afternoon going to be the happier of the two fan bases, Matt.
Speaker 11: I think they will. I just feel that as well
Speaker 11: as the Gold Coast Titans are playing. You just touched
Speaker 11: on it. The Warriors need it more. Their form, while
Speaker 11: patchy hasn't been diabolical, I feel they fall back into
Speaker 11: rhythm at a venue where there's going to be huge
Speaker 11: support and really daytime conditions on the Goal Coast should
Speaker 11: be a great atmosphere. I can't wait to be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to hear you call, Matt. Thanks
Speaker 2: so much for joining us today, mate, Really appreciate your
Speaker 2: time as.
Speaker 11: Always, anytime thanks to supporter of Rugby League.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for joining us, Matt. Looking forward to hearing
Speaker 2: your call. Matt Russell. There he will be on the
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Speaker 15: Well, first and foremost, Pinty, that was an amazing intro.
Speaker 15: I think you could actually do my job.
Speaker 11: My job is burning cats, and you've certainly summed it
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Speaker 15: Look, it is super exciting and the energy out there
Speaker 15: in the Indian community is overwhelming. It's so cool to
Speaker 15: see so many people getting behind this. It's not just
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Speaker 15: are out there looking for how they can get involved.
Speaker 15: So it's an amazing history and I'd love to share
Speaker 15: a bit of that history with you, Pineer. It's just
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Speaker 2: the one hundred years between these two countries that have
Speaker 2: led us to this point and to the celebration.
Speaker 15: Well, nineteen twenty six, the Indian Army hockey team came
Speaker 15: out to New Zealand to play a series ended up
Speaker 15: being seventeen matches back in the day where there wasn't
Speaker 15: a lot of workload monitoring, and they got through a
Speaker 15: hell of a lot of games. They won all but
Speaker 15: one of their games up and down the country, just
Speaker 15: drawing one. But the remarkable thing about that team, and
Speaker 15: apart from the fact they covered a lot of miles,
Speaker 15: is there was some really great backstories amongst the team.
Speaker 15: Peter Mitzgimmings's grandfather, who was Xee of Sport New Zealand
Speaker 15: and out sort of my right hand one hundred percent
Speaker 15: in sport diplomacy around New Zealand around the world. His
Speaker 15: grandfather was actually the match official in that team. Sid Holland,
Speaker 15: our twenty fifth Prime Minister of New Zealand, was the
Speaker 15: New Zealand team's selector of that tour.
Speaker 11: But the final part was Dan Charmed.
Speaker 15: He is the goat of hockey and he took part
Speaker 15: in that first ever match series here in New Zealand.
Speaker 15: So it's got an incredible backstory and all things being equal,
Speaker 15: hockey was the fifty first years, and you could argue
Speaker 15: that now cricket has taken up the mantle in that
Speaker 15: second fifty years.
Speaker 2: It has indeed an India's cricket team, as I mentioned,
Speaker 2: playing a record twelve match tour of New Zealand. But
Speaker 2: we've got the All Whites, We've got an International Bowl
Speaker 2: series with more to come. How important was it to
Speaker 2: have a number of sports represented rather than just relying
Speaker 2: on one real headline event.
Speaker 11: I look, it really is.
Speaker 15: India is one of the largest and fastest growing sports
Speaker 15: markets in the World's got a strong fan base. They're
Speaker 15: increasing their investment across the board in sport, not just
Speaker 15: in cricket but other sports as well. It's got a
Speaker 15: real aspiration to host upcoming international events, looking as far
Speaker 15: ahead as twenty thirty six where they're looking to put
Speaker 15: their name in the hat for the host in the Olympics.
Speaker 15: So they're looking at New Zealand now as two ways
Speaker 15: in which and I hate saying this piny, but we
Speaker 15: continue to punch above our weight. It's the phrase. It
Speaker 15: gets off the news. India looks to New Zealand to see, well,
Speaker 15: how do you do that? What are the ways in systems?
Speaker 15: Or how do we train our athletes in the ip
Speaker 15: that sits behind that that may help them. I guess
Speaker 15: move towards those targets have been really successful on the
Speaker 15: world stage. So look, I think it's super important to
Speaker 15: have those that vast array of sports. And I think
Speaker 15: there's no better example than bowls. Bowls is the only
Speaker 15: sport that I am aware of that male male para
Speaker 15: athletes can all compete on the same green. And we've
Speaker 15: seen it during the Commonwealth Games. We've got a twenty
Speaker 15: three year old playing someone.
Speaker 11: Who's over seventy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing and just hope for us all, hope for
Speaker 2: us all all. Yeah, yeah, you've vented that. There are
Speaker 2: still some more announcements to come. So with that having
Speaker 2: too much, what sort of editions can we expect over
Speaker 2: the next well ninety nine days anyway?
Speaker 11: Yeah, Look, the.
Speaker 15: Events themselves have received funding from the government's Event Boost
Speaker 15: Fund and so that they have aspirations across the number
Speaker 15: of things. It's not just in sport, it's across obviously
Speaker 15: the way in which we might develop business between the
Speaker 15: two countries. We know that India Indian students have a
Speaker 15: large footprint here now particular across a lot of our
Speaker 15: university programs. The education plays a role, so you might
Speaker 15: see some education initiatives. We know that we are always
Speaker 15: interested in showing off our beautiful country, so tourism plays
Speaker 15: a role, so you can expect to see a number
Speaker 15: of announcements across sports, business, education and those sort of
Speaker 15: areas as well. So it's it's a unique program, mates,
Speaker 15: and it's something that I'm obviously very excited about.
Speaker 2: Now I can tell even more than normal, Jamie. You're
Speaker 2: always one of the more enthusiastic people I get the
Speaker 2: chance to have a chat to, and this is obviously
Speaker 2: something which is really invigorating you. We often talk about
Speaker 2: the power of sport to bring people together. Will this
Speaker 2: create some good opportunities for New Zealand's large and growing
Speaker 2: Indian community to feel a real part of this.
Speaker 15: The Indian community as it stands, is the third largest
Speaker 15: ethnic population in New Zealand. It's about three hundred and
Speaker 15: fifty thousand and growing. I guess you could say sport
Speaker 15: was the first handshake ever made between New Zealand and India,
Speaker 15: and that's where sort of one hundred year relationships start
Speaker 15: and it continues to bring people together.
Speaker 11: The Indian community.
Speaker 15: Like I say, they contribute in so many ways, not
Speaker 15: just in sport, but through business and education here in
Speaker 15: New Zealand, and it's such a vibrant community that we're
Speaker 15: extremely lucky that it's not going to be isolated to Auckland.
Speaker 15: It's going to be Auckland, christ Church, Wellington, Tottering and Hamilton.
Speaker 15: So it's up and down the country. And whilst it's
Speaker 15: a year long program, most of the events happen in
Speaker 15: November and the main festival period is between the ninth
Speaker 15: and the twenty second of November, so it's very cool
Speaker 15: Ponty and I think there'll be other things happening during
Speaker 15: the year. In fact, rugby has already played a significant role.
Speaker 2: It's you mentioned at the start. It's like hurting cats
Speaker 2: and I can imagine with anything of this size there
Speaker 2: are some logistical challenges. How have you found it sort
Speaker 2: of pulling all of the bits and pieces together with
Speaker 2: now we're getting down to only one hundred days to go.
Speaker 15: Oh look, I think our superpower in New Zealand is
Speaker 15: working together and it's so cool that we've got awesome
Speaker 15: host cities or putting their hand up to use. Even
Speaker 15: some of their existing events that they've got in their
Speaker 15: calendar to really amplify this opportunity with India. So whether
Speaker 15: it's looking at christ Church down they're in the Cup week,
Speaker 15: or whether it might be their fashions festival they've got
Speaker 15: going on, there are multiple ways in which they can
Speaker 15: bring those other events to life with an Indian feel
Speaker 15: on theme. So yeah, we're super lucky with great host cities.
Speaker 15: And I've got to give a shout out to people
Speaker 15: like New Zealand Cricket, New Zealand Football, New Zealand Bowls,
Speaker 15: so we're all working in collaboration to ensure this is
Speaker 15: a great success.
Speaker 11: And look I mentioned rugby before, mate, there.
Speaker 15: Was a request come down from India to look at
Speaker 15: how rugby might be involved in the program.
Speaker 11: And earlier this year New Zealand Rugby come on board to.
Speaker 15: Send up Well probably I'll say it outright, Alan Bunting,
Speaker 15: our greatest ever women's rugby coach, went up to India
Speaker 15: for a few days with Varnye Wolf Graham and Kahu
Speaker 15: Kerry to deliver a coaching program in sevens up there.
Speaker 15: And look, some of those rugby ties will continue later
Speaker 15: in the year where we send up a couple of
Speaker 15: age group squads to India to take part in a
Speaker 15: in a training week with the Indian equivalents, which is
Speaker 15: pretty cool as well.
Speaker 2: Indeed it is indeed it is one hundred years of
Speaker 2: Unity through Sport coming up in November, one hundred days away, Jamie,
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking time out of what I know is
Speaker 2: a very busy all for you to have a chat
Speaker 2: to us this afternoon.
Speaker 15: Are you're a champion Pointy? Thanks for making time mate.
Speaker 2: No, thank you for joining us, Jamie. Jamie Taut, program
Speaker 2: director of one hundred Years of Unity through Sport, celebrating
Speaker 2: one hundred years of competition between New Kilinda and India
Speaker 2: on the sporting fields of both countries. Look forward to
Speaker 2: hearing more as November draws closer. Night away from three
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Speaker 2: quick look ahead to the show tomorrow. The All Blacks
Speaker 2: are now in South Africa, as you've heard across our
Speaker 2: news bulletins today, We're going to get a view from
Speaker 2: South Africa about how they're feeling about all of this.
Speaker 2: Have they have they?
Speaker 9: Well?
Speaker 2: Are they sharing any of our sense of optimism around
Speaker 2: the All Blacks or are they supremely confident that the
Speaker 2: spring Box will do a number on us over the
Speaker 2: next couple of months or so. So we've got that
Speaker 2: for you. We'll review the Warriors and also here from
Speaker 2: Auckland FC's brand new coach, Pedro Modadda, among other things.
Speaker 2: Anything happens at the Colm Games, we'll cover that off
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