WEBVTT - Football Fever: Records, rebounds and regular service

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<v Speaker 1>Football Fever, the podcast keeping you up to date with

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<v Speaker 1>the beautiful game with the voice of football Jason Paine

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<v Speaker 1>and Insid heralds Michael Burgess, powered by News Talks hebby.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome and a very merry Christmas to you. The Fest

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<v Speaker 2>of season is, I guess you'd say, upon us, and

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty festive weekend and a successful weekend for the

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<v Speaker 2>three New Zealand sides involved in the A League's competitions.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Jason Pine, Michael Burgess is here. Win win, win,

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<v Speaker 2>three WS three up, three down. Bird's not bad for

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<v Speaker 2>the three teams and the A leagues across the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>from New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 3>Triple treaty was perfect. Wasn't it a great way to

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<v Speaker 3>start the fest of season? And I don't imagine it's

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<v Speaker 3>happened all that often since Auckland came into the league

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<v Speaker 3>that we've had all three teams went on the same weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>so pretty special.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I don't know that the Wellington Phoenix men and

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<v Speaker 2>women have won very often on the same weekend. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get my statisticians onto it, but you're right, please do

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<v Speaker 2>It was a very very rare thing, but a very

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<v Speaker 2>pleasing thing as far as football on this side of

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<v Speaker 2>the Tasman is concerned. We might jump straight to Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon where we had a record breaking game at Pottydoor

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<v Speaker 2>Park the Wellington Phoenix Women's seven Sydney FC nil at

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<v Speaker 2>Pottydoor Park, most goals scored in a game ever by

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<v Speaker 2>the Phoenix women, biggest winning margin in Phoenix club history

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<v Speaker 2>by the men's or the women's team, and Sydney FC's

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<v Speaker 2>biggest ever A League women's defeat. BF Priestman said during

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<v Speaker 2>the week that someone's going to get a hiding from us.

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<v Speaker 2>Surely she couldn't have expected that it would be that

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<v Speaker 2>emphatic though, seven nil.

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<v Speaker 3>You hear coaches say that quite a bit, that we're

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<v Speaker 3>do a big game, and often you think, oh, they're

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<v Speaker 3>just saying it to sort of to sort of make

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<v Speaker 3>things sound good or to give everyone confidence. But sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying it because they can see it coming, they

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<v Speaker 3>can see something in the inside and you know they

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<v Speaker 3>had been playing well. But that was that was what

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<v Speaker 3>you dream about, wasn't it. That's what you dream about

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<v Speaker 3>when you set up this woman's team, and especially with

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<v Speaker 3>the investment this season, to win like that, but to

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<v Speaker 3>win like that against the big team like Sydney there,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest clubs in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, incredible really, and for so many reasons. It was

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<v Speaker 2>an important game, the fact that that had those two

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<v Speaker 2>games on the road and hadn't got a goal or

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<v Speaker 2>a point in either of them. I also heard birds

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<v Speaker 2>that before the weekend, off the back of last weekend's

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<v Speaker 2>results for the men's and the women's teams, that Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Morrison was absolutely apoplectic when he spoke with the club's

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<v Speaker 2>football department. They've invested a lot of money in the

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<v Speaker 2>women's team, as we know, the men you know, losing

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<v Speaker 2>at home to the bottom team. Rob Morrison was most displeased,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand, so he would have had a brighter smile,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure after the weekend. Certainly, Bev said to me

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<v Speaker 2>on the radio yesterday, I put a smile on the

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<v Speaker 2>chairman's face.

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<v Speaker 4>We certainly did.

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<v Speaker 2>It just looked good from the start though getting an

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<v Speaker 2>early goal I think is always a thing to do,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. It sounds so obvious, but having not scored in

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<v Speaker 2>the previous two for Mania Elliott to score in the

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<v Speaker 2>third minute, it kind of takes that pressure off and

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<v Speaker 2>and just you know, allows you to breathe a bit

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<v Speaker 2>easier from the start.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the here we go moment, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>They had been unlucky, like I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 3>sound like a hindsight hero like Mike Costing likes to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about. But the previous the previous two matches, we've

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<v Speaker 3>been saying, Piney, they had played well, you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>had played well. They were desperate and lucky against Perth

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<v Speaker 3>to lose that match, and they had way more opportunities

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<v Speaker 3>against Melbourne City. So they had been playing well, but

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<v Speaker 3>it just hadn't hadn't happened for them, and there must

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<v Speaker 3>have been doubts. So to start so well and to

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<v Speaker 3>go on with it in the first half must have

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<v Speaker 3>been such a lift and they're thinking, Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what this is what's supposed to happen, this is what

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<v Speaker 3>we've been doing in training and it's finally coming off.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe or that that.

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<v Speaker 3>Shooting and finishing practice you suggested as well was definitely

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<v Speaker 3>helpful because it was spot.

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<v Speaker 4>On, wasn't it. It took the goals.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The other thing you said last week, which which

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<v Speaker 2>has sort of resonated with me and I've been thinking about,

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<v Speaker 2>is that you said that you thought this would be

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<v Speaker 2>a team that was better in the second half of

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<v Speaker 2>the season than they have been in the first half,

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<v Speaker 2>or will be in the first half. Look, here we

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<v Speaker 2>are about six or seven games in, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's starting to look, you know, like a very

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<v Speaker 2>accurate prediction. Maybe it just does just take a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of time for a new coach, a new bunch of players,

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<v Speaker 2>a few injuries, just you know, lots of factors.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like they've been playing poorly either, they just

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't been getting the results. I don't think that their

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<v Speaker 2>performance has perhaps deserved. Look this, this feels like a

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<v Speaker 2>watershed moment. Will we look back at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the season and say, look, that was it the seven

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<v Speaker 2>mill against Sydney FC. Is where this season actually began?

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<v Speaker 3>Possibly? Yeah, Like it's the old turning point, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>They had to win. But to win like that and

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<v Speaker 3>to have the clean sheet, I mean, that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good foundation for what's coming.

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<v Speaker 4>And they've they've got good players, They've got a good squad.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd started to hear over the last week a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of criticism of Samba and saying that, oh, it's great,

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<v Speaker 3>she's got all the support and you know, it's amazing

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<v Speaker 3>that the Nepalese that had come out everywhere they play.

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<v Speaker 4>But she's got to start producing.

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<v Speaker 3>But my argument was, well, she has actually looked quite good,

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<v Speaker 3>so someone like her, what a boost. And also think

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<v Speaker 3>of the young players in that team ay that like,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine how they'll be feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, incredible. It must just be such a boost to

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<v Speaker 2>have a result like that and to know, okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>are actually a team that can score goals. Samba's first

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<v Speaker 2>two goals for the club. Grace Charlie got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>as well, the early one from a Nia Aliat those

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<v Speaker 2>two late own goals. Incidentally, the third goal was Wellington

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix's one hundredth A League women's goal. But what I

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<v Speaker 2>really liked Birde was they didn't sit back at three

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<v Speaker 2>nil or four nil or five nil even you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they kept going, but also retain that defensive base because

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<v Speaker 2>when you're five nil up, it's easy to let one

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<v Speaker 2>in because it doesn't matter, right, five nil, five to one,

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<v Speaker 2>you still get the three points. But it seemed as

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<v Speaker 2>though they were still very very keen on that clean

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<v Speaker 2>sheet even though the points were well and truly secure

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<v Speaker 2>by that stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a good point, mate, Like the hunger was there,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't it. You see other games real ends up, you

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<v Speaker 3>know six two or six three even, you know, because

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<v Speaker 3>everything gets a bit loose and you just start going

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<v Speaker 3>for things and forget about defending. But it wasn't the case.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they stayed on their assignments but still wanted more.

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<v Speaker 3>So very positive signs. I mean, they know they've dropped points,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the thing. Though. They know they've dropped points. We

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it last week. There should be another four

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<v Speaker 3>or five points up the table. But now the chance

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<v Speaker 3>comes to make those points up in the coming weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And it actually doesn't matter too much because the table

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<v Speaker 2>is so tight. Yes, of course, they would have loved

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<v Speaker 2>to have had those points, and they'd be probably well,

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<v Speaker 2>they would be in a better position than they are.

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<v Speaker 2>But as this win has taken them to eight points,

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<v Speaker 2>they're in eighth position. But they're you know, there are

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<v Speaker 2>only two points behind the third placed Central Coast Mariners,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've got a game in hand because of the

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<v Speaker 2>uneven nature of the competition where there's a bye, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know they're they're there or thereabouts. Can we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the away form because they go away next to

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<v Speaker 2>second bottom Western Sydney on Tuesday night. Huge chants this

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<v Speaker 2>to claim a first away win of the season and

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<v Speaker 2>jump into the top six. But I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>you think whether the whether the the away day blues

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<v Speaker 2>of previous teams can be you know, automatically assigned to

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<v Speaker 2>this team because they have played well, haven't they away

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<v Speaker 2>from home against Melbourne City against Perth could have easily

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<v Speaker 2>got something out of both of those games. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the away day blues are something from seasons past. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what you think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so yeah, I think it's unfair to tarnish

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<v Speaker 3>them with that the club has struggled away. We all

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<v Speaker 3>know that the clubs women's teams struggled away, but this

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<v Speaker 3>team feels different. It felt different just in those two performances,

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<v Speaker 3>like to do what they did against City restrict their

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<v Speaker 3>chances have so many of their own chances, Perth played

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<v Speaker 3>them off the park. This is it's definitely a new

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<v Speaker 3>beginning and let's hope that starts to show through away

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<v Speaker 3>from home. They're much more professional, They've got much more

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<v Speaker 3>resources behind them, so you think that would pay off

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<v Speaker 3>and it has to, doesn't it, because if they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be contenders, they can't just rely on their home form.

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<v Speaker 2>No, exactly right, they do have to win their away

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<v Speaker 2>games or certainly get points away from home, and like

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<v Speaker 2>I say, it feels as though away at second bottom

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<v Speaker 2>Western Sydney on Tuesday night is a massive chance to

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<v Speaker 2>capitalize on the momentum that they would have gained from

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<v Speaker 2>the winover over Sydney FC. Just a word on Grace

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<v Speaker 2>jarla second goal as well her tenth for the club.

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<v Speaker 2>She is now the equal top scorer in the club's

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<v Speaker 2>women's history with ten, alongside Maddy Ana Spekma. So you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to think that she will at some stage take

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<v Speaker 2>that mental interesting and we've talked a bit about Grace

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<v Speaker 2>Jarlay and where her best position is just sitting a

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<v Speaker 2>bit deeper with you know, c J. Bott, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the deepest of the midfielder. Is Grace still able to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of you know, play a bit further forward but

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<v Speaker 2>make her impact in central positions. Maybe that is the

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<v Speaker 2>place for her. Maybe we've finally landed on Grace Charlie's

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<v Speaker 2>best position, Birch.

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<v Speaker 3>It's taking a while and we've discussed this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whenever we were catching up around the Ferns and Woman's

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<v Speaker 3>World Cup and everything. I just I think you felt

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<v Speaker 3>the same. Just always felt she was wasted out wide.

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<v Speaker 3>So as long as she's central, whether it's further forward

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<v Speaker 3>or striker or a bit deeper, but as long as

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<v Speaker 3>she's central, I think she can make an impact. And

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, I love that story about Rob because

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<v Speaker 3>he's such a busy guy. You know, he doesn't get

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<v Speaker 3>involved that much. But when he's coming down and banging

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<v Speaker 3>his fists on the table, you know that, you know

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<v Speaker 3>that something's happened. I don't know something to change. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a pretty how would you describe him. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty understanding and patient guy. You know, he's not one

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<v Speaker 3>of those owners that flies off the handle that you

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<v Speaker 3>see in Europe. But they're obviously there had come a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not sure i'd want to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>end of a displeased Rob Morrison. But look it's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>worked because both teams pulled their socks up and got

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<v Speaker 2>the results they were after. So the Wellington Phoenix Woman,

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<v Speaker 2>as I say, next away against the Western Sydney Wanderers

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<v Speaker 2>on the thirtieth of December.

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<v Speaker 1>The Football Fever Podcast with Jason Vine and Michael Burgess.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's jump back to Friday night, Western Sydney Wanderer's nil

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<v Speaker 2>Auckland f C two at Combank a third straight win

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<v Speaker 2>for Auckland f C. They reclaimed top spot for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time since round four. This felt like a quintessential

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<v Speaker 2>game of two halves to me, birds not particularly inspiring

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<v Speaker 2>in the first half, a reset at halftime. I'm second

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<v Speaker 2>half very good, a functional Auckland FC two nil win

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<v Speaker 2>away from home.

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<v Speaker 4>Good performance, really.

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<v Speaker 3>Good performance and really good result. I mean you're right

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<v Speaker 3>about the first half. But Western Sydney were playing well.

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<v Speaker 3>They looked like the team that they can be and

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<v Speaker 3>that you were hoping them to be when we did

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<v Speaker 3>our pre season predictions. I mean, they're a good side.

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<v Speaker 3>They were playing well and Auckland just were very sloppy.

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<v Speaker 3>They couldn't keep the ball. They were killing themselves with

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<v Speaker 3>some bad passing and it looked like the Wondrous press

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<v Speaker 3>is really good, didn't it. So they were pressing, putting pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>Auckland couldn't put their own pressure on but as we've seen,

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<v Speaker 3>it gets repetitive. But they found a way to stay

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<v Speaker 3>in the contest rather than be too kneel down. You know,

0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.000
<v Speaker 3>they defended pretty well and then it was still game

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<v Speaker 3>on at halftime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Boja cry hitting the post in the first half

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<v Speaker 2>would have been the closest that Western Sydney came to

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<v Speaker 2>opening the scoring and year they just haven't haven't found

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<v Speaker 2>what they're after in the first eight or nine games

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<v Speaker 2>of the season. They've got the talent, there's absolutely no doubt,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got the roster to be a lot better off

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<v Speaker 2>than they are. And the tables so tight and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they will climb into the upper echelons, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps in the early part of the new year. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just the all Auckland FC again just controlled the

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<v Speaker 2>game so well in the second half. They scored after

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<v Speaker 2>fifty seven minutes. Now on that goal that's been given

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<v Speaker 2>to Jesse Randall, that goal officially by the A League.

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<v Speaker 2>How has Jesse Randall been credited with that goal? If

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Sam Cosgrove, I'm writing a very very stern letter

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure he won't because he's not that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of guy to the questionable goals panel if such a

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<v Speaker 2>thing exists, and asking them how on earth it's been

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<v Speaker 2>credited to Jesse Randall.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Jesse was lying on the ground. He could

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<v Speaker 4>have been asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>It could have been asleep, and it just sort of

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<v Speaker 3>hits his ankle, Like in what universe does that become

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<v Speaker 3>his goal? I just this kind of thing really bugs

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<v Speaker 3>me because it must really bug the players even though

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<v Speaker 3>they never say it. And I'd just love to know

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<v Speaker 3>who makes this decision. Have they ever played football? Do

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<v Speaker 3>they understand, you know, what what what a vital deflection

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<v Speaker 3>is and what's not. I just i'd like to see

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, maybe a sort of media briefing. They

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<v Speaker 3>can do it occasionally, like the NRL do where they

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<v Speaker 3>came out on Monday and they explain the different things,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's just nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll put it this way. If that's a defender on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground and Sam Cosgrove takes the shot and it

0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.200
<v Speaker 2>flicks up off the ankle of the defender and into

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<v Speaker 2>the net, a shot that's already on target. You've seen

0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.920
<v Speaker 2>it from behind. He's shot, it's on target. It's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>taking the deflection and gone up into the into the

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<v Speaker 2>upper part of the goal. But if it's a if

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<v Speaker 2>it's an opposition player, is that an own goal? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that called an own goal?

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<v Speaker 4>Not normally?

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<v Speaker 3>Not normally, like I think we all we're all overthinking

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<v Speaker 3>things in this sage and we sent to find things

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<v Speaker 3>that aren't there. I mean, even the way they gave

0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Cosgrove the goal in Wellington. Maybe he'd touched it just

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<v Speaker 3>before the line. I don't know, I haven't seen the footage.

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<v Speaker 3>That kind of makes sense, but it's still blood annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>But this one was just just nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine if you had money on Sam Cosgrove as the

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<v Speaker 2>first goal scorer, and I'm sure people would have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how does that get explained? I mean, I know that's

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<v Speaker 2>not the main thing here, but anyway, we're probably dwelling

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<v Speaker 2>on it a bit much. And as you say, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>justice for Jesse Randall after Costrove kind of did steal

0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.000
<v Speaker 2>that goal off him in Wellington. If it had been

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<v Speaker 2>given to Cosgrove, he'd be top of the Golden Boot

0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.960
<v Speaker 2>now with five. As it stands, he's on four with

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<v Speaker 2>about five or six other players. But yeah, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the most important thing is that the ball went

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<v Speaker 2>in and Auckland had their one nill lead, and from

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<v Speaker 2>there it felt very much like the previous weekend that

0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:48.920
<v Speaker 2>they were in control of the game, weren't going to

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<v Speaker 2>lose it just a matter of whether they score another goal,

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<v Speaker 2>which they did. Lockey Brook play broken up by the

0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.800
<v Speaker 2>excellent Louis via Strata. In midfield, Brook cuts inside scores

0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.640
<v Speaker 2>against his former club. Gee. I like the way he's

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<v Speaker 2>playing at the moment Burge. I know it's early, but

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<v Speaker 2>he is starting to creep into Johnny Warren Metal consideration.

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<v Speaker 4>Lachland Brook.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love the way that he has adjusted the

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<v Speaker 2>life at Auckland FC in a couple of different positions

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<v Speaker 2>and impacts every game of football that he plays.

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<v Speaker 4>He does.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's he came back with something to prove, didn't

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<v Speaker 3>he because the MLS hadn't really worked. But everyone knew

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<v Speaker 3>he's a good player. That's what makes it such a

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<v Speaker 3>such a smart signing. And it's obvious he has adjusted

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<v Speaker 3>so well to Croaker's system, which probably isn't easy for

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<v Speaker 3>someone like him because he's an attacking player who wants

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<v Speaker 3>to He's more focused on stuff in the final third,

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<v Speaker 3>adjusted well, gets on well with the group and as

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<v Speaker 3>you say, I mean it's quite it's quite unusual to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to play two positions so well, isn't it

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<v Speaker 3>the way he has?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And he may have to as well revert to where

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<v Speaker 2>he was because we had really good bench impacted from Kazuma,

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<v Speaker 2>Mai and Felipe Guy Goss who came on ten minutes

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<v Speaker 2>after the break. Hiroki Sarki joined them in the sixty

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<v Speaker 2>third minute. Rogerson, Brummer, Elliott are all replaced. How will

0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Steve Corriker manage this burge? Because much as all the

0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:21.880
<v Speaker 2>players will say, we want what's best for the team,

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever's best for the team, those players all want

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<v Speaker 2>to play. They all want to play, and they can't

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<v Speaker 2>all play. You can't play Cosgrove, Randall, Brook, Rogerson and Mai.

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<v Speaker 2>Let alone start thinking about Francois and Gillian. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>really play both Sarki and Elliott. You can't really play Verstrata,

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<v Speaker 2>Brummer and guy Goss. How is he going to do this?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's one of his biggest challenges because one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best things about auckland see last year was

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<v Speaker 3>that Okay used He used his player as well, and

0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.000
<v Speaker 3>he gave them more time when he could. But people

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<v Speaker 3>accepted their roles on or off the you know, on

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<v Speaker 3>the field, or on the bench really kicking stones. The

0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.400
<v Speaker 3>culture was good and you don't always see that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>So his challenge in the second season will be can

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<v Speaker 3>he keep everyone happy or is there going to start

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<v Speaker 3>to be a bit of dissatisfaction because, as you say,

0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:16.400
<v Speaker 3>all those players would expect and be entitled to think

0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:20.880
<v Speaker 3>they're good enough to start My will be a will

0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.080
<v Speaker 3>be an ongoing one, and that they're not going to

0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.680
<v Speaker 3>risk anything because he's so important. So he might continue

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<v Speaker 3>to be an impact player with his knee. But the

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<v Speaker 3>other two, I mean, Felipe was a regular last season,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't he was? He was one of the first pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Broom has been going well, but I don't know, does

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<v Speaker 3>it Does it become a thing where you replace the

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<v Speaker 3>midfielder after sixty five seventy minutes for the extra energy?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I personally don't like it, but maybe it's the way

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<v Speaker 3>the game. The game's going, especially the A League because

0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.880
<v Speaker 3>it's so fast, so transitional.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Sarkai? He comes back, doesn't he when he's fit.

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<v Speaker 2>Elliott's been good, very very good, good player. But if Hiroarki,

0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Sarki can play ninety minutes or certainly if he can

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<v Speaker 2>start a game. He starts the game, doesn't he's club captain, he.

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<v Speaker 4>Does, he does, He can't leave him out.

0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.560
<v Speaker 3>And Callum was really good on that last week in

0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.119
<v Speaker 3>the media session, he said, you know, look, Hierroki's a

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<v Speaker 3>club cap, then he's a legend.

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<v Speaker 4>I still think I'm good enough to.

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<v Speaker 3>Play, and i still want to play, but I'm also

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<v Speaker 3>realistic with the situation. So I love that attitude. I mean,

0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:26.080
<v Speaker 3>what Couraker can do is bring Callen on sometimes with

0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.600
<v Speaker 3>tend to go if the game looks and also he's

0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:30.960
<v Speaker 3>an option to bring on further forward as well, so

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<v Speaker 3>there are ways to skin it. But yeah, Hiroki, he's

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<v Speaker 3>got to be there because he brings so many other layers,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't he.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just great to see him out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And he made one run down the right hand side

0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:46.520
<v Speaker 2>which almost suggested right on back my hamstrings fixed. You know.

0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.000
<v Speaker 2>He set off down the right and you don't often

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<v Speaker 2>really see it from haruky sark guy. He doesn't get

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<v Speaker 2>forward as much as Devrees on the other side, but

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<v Speaker 2>he just sort of it was almost like he was

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<v Speaker 2>making a point. He carried on with the ball for

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<v Speaker 2>about forty fifty meters all the way up to the

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<v Speaker 2>attacking half, and so maybe he was saying to Steve Corrick,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm I'm ready, I'm And it would not

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<v Speaker 2>be a surprise at all if he starts against Sydney

0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.359
<v Speaker 2>FC on Saturday, massive game which will get to in

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. But just even talking about the selection problems,

0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.760
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't some other coaches love the problems that Steve Gorrick has.

0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't chief he love love some issues like this? So

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<v Speaker 2>do I play? Do I play Guy Goss or Brummer?

0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Do I play Elliott or Sarkai? Do I play my

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<v Speaker 2>or Brook or Rogerson or Randall? It's I mean, these

0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.400
<v Speaker 2>are wonderful problems to haven't they?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? Is this the best bench in the league?

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<v Speaker 2>Has to be, has to be, has to be?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I think so? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean you look at the well when you

0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.879
<v Speaker 2>can have when you can have three imports on the bench,

0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.800
<v Speaker 2>and often if you you know, we often talk about

0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.399
<v Speaker 2>imports and think, okay, well that they need to be

0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.240
<v Speaker 2>starting players, and when you can have three of them

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<v Speaker 2>on the bench because of being kept out. You know, yes,

0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.280
<v Speaker 2>there's been injuries and I know that, and players coming back,

0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.400
<v Speaker 2>but when they can they can add impact off the bench.

0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean imagine looking over and seeing my and Guy

0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Goss and Sarki coming on for the last thirty minutes.

0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you've held the Auckland FC to to

0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.040
<v Speaker 2>a relatively close scoreline, look over and you see that

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.360
<v Speaker 2>is your impact. I mean that's got to be disheartening

0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:12.840
<v Speaker 2>it itself, doesn't it.

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:14.040
<v Speaker 4>It's some mer till or is it?

0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 3>To look up and not see now they're coming on

0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:20.880
<v Speaker 3>and I'm feeling tired already. Yeah, it's a great situation

0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:21.840
<v Speaker 3>they've got themselves in.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a piece in the Herald this morning regarding

0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Auckland f C's travels and I just want to read

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.119
<v Speaker 2>a bit from it which talks about the facts of

0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.119
<v Speaker 2>the matter. The club as yet to taste defeat you

0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 2>right in New South Wales, Queensland or South Australia have

0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:38.359
<v Speaker 2>only lost two of sixteen A League matches outside New Zealand.

0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 2>The first was in Perth in January. The second came

0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.919
<v Speaker 2>against Western United and a dead rubber in May, a

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.439
<v Speaker 2>week after they'd wrapped up the Premier's plate, with the

0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:52.119
<v Speaker 2>squad probably still in celebratory mode. Two losses in sixteen

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:56.080
<v Speaker 2>away matches. That is no one would have a record

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 2>like that. Why have they been so good on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's remarkable, especially you know for a

0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:07.359
<v Speaker 3>trans Tasman team. I mean there's probably a few elements.

0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 3>They've got the recipe right, they have tweaked things over

0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:14.080
<v Speaker 3>time and they now fly two days before, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a luxury. What would that cost them an extra ten

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.000
<v Speaker 3>grand to stay an extra night, I'd say something like that.

0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.720
<v Speaker 3>So that's a luxury. That's what resources can do for you.

0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:27.639
<v Speaker 3>But more than that, it's definitely a mindset thing. You

0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.400
<v Speaker 3>know that they had some tricky games away in the

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.440
<v Speaker 3>early part in their first season and they got through them,

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:38.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, and I think it's just just built from there.

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Obviously as well, they're defensively very solid. But man, it's

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:45.879
<v Speaker 3>not easy to travel and get results, really isn't. And

0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 3>the fact I've done it, I don't know, I just

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:54.919
<v Speaker 3>find it. I just find extraordinary. Really, it is extraordinary.

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:59.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's not an away game as a side based

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.800
<v Speaker 2>in New South Wales where Sydney FC go away to

0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Central Coast, Marras is now up the road, Newcastle two

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:06.520
<v Speaker 2>hours up the road. Even if flying into State is

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 2>an hour unless you're going across to Western Australia. This

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 2>is major international travel every time they go. And look

0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Wellington Phoenix, both the men's and the women's sides, as

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:20.080
<v Speaker 2>we've mentioned, have had real trouble, you know, putting together

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 2>any sort of consistency on the road, but to only

0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:27.440
<v Speaker 2>lose twice in sixteen games, one of which, as you say,

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.440
<v Speaker 2>was effectively a dead rubber after they won the Premier's plate.

0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:34.480
<v Speaker 2>So one proper away loss and that was the Perth

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Glory who were bottom. I think at the time it

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 2>was an absolute aberration. So look, it probably needs to

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 2>be studied and other teams. I mean, certainly Wellington would

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 2>love to have that sort of a way day form.

0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.119
<v Speaker 2>They'd go again, don't they. So if they traveled two

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 2>days before, does that mean awk see a traveling on

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Christmas Day to get to Sydney for the game on Saturday?

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:54.959
<v Speaker 4>They are?

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.680
<v Speaker 3>They are, So that's another little challenge. They'll travel in

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Speaker 3>the afternoon, as I remember that, I think they've got

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 3>a three pm flight something like that, so you don't

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 3>got to be the airport one o'clock, so you have

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 3>your family time in the morning and then boom, you're

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 3>off to the airport on the plane.

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 4>Not ideal, but they are a close knit group as well.

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 3>They do enjoy spending time together and I guess they

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 3>see these trips as well as a chance for team

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:25.360
<v Speaker 3>bonding and stuff. But it's certainly not your not your

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 3>ideal Christmas day.

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 2>No. But then, having said that, and you made this

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 2>point last week, there aren't a lot of players in

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 2>the team who have families. You know, a lot of

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 2>them have partners, but they're you know Hiracki, Sarka's got kids.

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 2>A couple of others may as well, but most of

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 2>them I think you know a young girl on that

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 2>so they haven't started their families yet. So so you know,

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not quite as bad, isn't it saying goodbye to

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 2>your wife or your girlfriend. If it's just them, they

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 2>can see their family. You know, that might be quite nice. Actually,

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 2>you go and see your family. I'll go to Australia

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:57.360
<v Speaker 2>for a game of football. I'm not a castle aspersions

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.119
<v Speaker 2>on any of the partner's families, of course, with dangerous

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 2>or very dangerous, very just but look, it's obviously worked

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 2>for them and this is a massive game away at

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Sydney FC Saturday Night one v Two, first of three

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>games between the two this season. It feels like these

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 2>are the top two teams, not just on the table

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 2>but in the A League. While other teams are taking

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 2>points off one another and sort of scrapping and losing

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.200
<v Speaker 2>the odd game here and there. It feels like these

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 2>are the top two. Having said that, Newcastle they have

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 2>beaten Sydney FC. That was an impressive win. Have we

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 2>been a bit harsh or Newcastle They've beaten Sydney FC.

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 2>They've come to New Zealand and beaten both Auckland FC

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 2>and the Wellington Phoenix. They're obviously a pretty good side.

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:39.120
<v Speaker 3>I just thought maybe we look back we were because

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, they were bottom when they beat Auckland, then

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.360
<v Speaker 3>they were bottom when they beat the Phoenix. But maybe

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 3>they're definitely not the worst team in the league, and

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 3>they've got all these young players. But to beat Sydney

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 3>they look like they did. That's pretty impressive because I

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 3>like what I've seen from Sydney and I've got no

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 3>doubt that ufuk Tale will be really up for this.

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 3>He would love to beat, not just especially Steve Gyker's

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 3>former clubmate but to beat Auckland. So this this will

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 3>be absolute beauty.

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, and Steve Coracker still gets a bit misty eyed

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 2>when he talks about Sydney FC. You know, I noticed

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 2>he was asked to, you know, and I don't mind

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:16.919
<v Speaker 2>it from him. I have to say, I've come to

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 2>really enjoy Steve Coricker's media, you know, conferences. I just

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 2>think he's he's so honest, like because it would be

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:27.880
<v Speaker 2>easy to say, no, Sydney, that's my past team. I've

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 2>got no you know, I don't. I don't think about

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 2>them anymore. He still gets He still gets a bit

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 2>nostalgic and fair enough to he was ever ages. But

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 2>I like that about him. I just like it, like

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 2>that he sits there after a game and just tells

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the truth, you know, and it seems so obvious, but

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:46.959
<v Speaker 2>he you know, I'm really liking just the authenticity that

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 2>he brings. He'll you know, it's like art, isn't it

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.919
<v Speaker 2>as well? So it's not it's be nice and you know,

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 2>sort of condensed in there, but of a hostile atmosphere.

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Could be a cracking game, Birch.

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 4>It could be beauty.

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 3>I really think it could be one of the best

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.639
<v Speaker 3>games of the season so far, and I love your

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 3>point about Croaker. Could also think the first game against Sydney,

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 3>which was what round two last year, wasn't that Yeah,

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 3>that was a big moment. But since then, actually I

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 3>remember him saying last season every game has still felt

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 3>a bit weird because he was he was part of

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 3>the furniture.

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:19.360
<v Speaker 4>He's a Sydney icon.

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, what was he at the club for sort

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 3>of almost twenty years, So it's still going to be strange.

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 4>But he is. He does manage to.

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 3>Say what he thinks in press conferences. He's not maybe

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 3>as careful as other coaches, and authentic is a good word.

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 2>And also there's no doubt once the game starts, which

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:40.439
<v Speaker 2>you know which side he's on. He might be in

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 2>his old stamping ground, his spiritual home, but there's no

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 2>doubt at all that he is an Auckland FC coach

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 2>through and through when the game starts. So you're looking

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 2>forward to that one Saturday night, seven o'clock at Leichhardt

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 2>as Auckland FC go back on the road to take

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 2>on Sydney FC.

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Good balls either with Jason paid and.

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 2>So let's go to Sunday afternoon in the Sunshine again

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 2>at Sky Stadium in Wellington. Wellington Phoenix three the Central

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Coast Mariners. One great weekend for the Phoenix seven nil

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, three to one on Sunday, much needed win

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 2>for the Phoenix men. They were last going into the

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 2>game because Melbourne Victory had won the night before, but

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 2>they jumped from last to seventh and just one point

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 2>behind the team that currently sits in fourth place.

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 4>So it's so tight.

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 2>But just how big a win in the overall scheme

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 2>of things, the landscape of the points table going into

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.160
<v Speaker 2>the game, and just for the confidence of the team

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 2>and its fans was this.

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:38.479
<v Speaker 4>It was massive. It was massive.

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 3>We talked about it at length last week about the situation,

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 3>and they couldn't afford anything less, especially against the Mariners

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 3>who have been struggling so much themselves, especially when they've

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 3>got the schedule they've got coming up away from home.

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 3>But mainly just to show that they still believed in themselves,

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 3>still believe than the coach, and to offer everyone else,

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:09.439
<v Speaker 3>everyone else some belief because it had been dwindling. So really,

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 3>really really big result. It's only one game, but it

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 3>feels a bit more important than that.

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, as far as as a boost at

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 2>the right time is concerned, and it came with a

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 2>bit of adversity as well. Josh olaway Amy, who's been excellent,

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, one of the best goalkeepers in the league

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>in the first couple of months of the season, injured

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 2>in just the eleventh minute making a save. Actually he

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>came off with what looked to be an ankle injury.

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>He was in a moon boot, so I haven't heard

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>any update yet as to how long he might be

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>out for. Almost certainly going to miss the next game.

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 2>But whether it's just a bad twist or a bad spray,

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>or whether there's something worse than that, I guess we'll

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>find out. But what it did do was open the

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 2>door for an A League men's debut for eighteen year

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>old goalkeeper Amon McCarran. He had played against Rexham mid

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 2>year and in the Australia Cup, but a big, big

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 2>occasion for I think reserve goalkeepers always know they might play,

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>but most of the time they don't. What would it

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>be ninety five percent of the time, probably even more

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 2>than that. You sit on the bench. You know, you

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>warm the keeper up before the game. You sit on

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>the bench, but you never get the call eleven minutes

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>in this eighteen year old kids out there are a

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 2>pretty crucial game.

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 3>It it must be. It must be so hard because

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 3>as you say, you're sitting on the bench, you think

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 3>of other things. You know you're not you're not going

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 3>to play. You're a bit relaxed, and suddenly boom, it's

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 3>on and you're out there. And for a young guy

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 3>rather than the you know, for a guy, it feels

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 3>like he's gone from number three to number two, which

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 3>is kind of unusual, isn't it. Its number three keeper

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 3>stays as number three keeper.

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a really interesting point because if I

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 2>remember last year, about midway through the season, Janklotaliano decided

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 2>to make a change in goal, wasn't happy with what

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Josh Olowaymey was giving him, and I made the decision

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 2>to bring lbie Kelly Healed INSS number one, so basically

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 2>swapped as one and two a round and LB Kelly

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Heild played, i think from memories, seven or eight games

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 2>before injuring his shoulder in training and then being ruled

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 2>out for their is to the season oll Away and

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>he came back in and that was that. But if

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>lb Kelly healed was number one last season. He's back

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 2>from that injuries, played half a dozen National League games.

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>He sat on the bench I think a couple of

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, but obviously didn't get on. Has he gone

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 2>from number one to number three? What's happened there? Yeah?

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean I don't know.

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean goalkeeping a mystery to me anyway, and it

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 3>seems that the only people who understand are the goalkeeping coaches.

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, they have their own little club and they

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 3>trained together and they talk about it. But it's unusual.

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember that happening at too many clubs. I

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 3>thought Albie did quite well last season, although I always

0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 3>felt Josh should be the number one, given as whose

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 3>background and his pedigree.

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's unusual.

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I think the reason for the change, or one of

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 2>the reasons for the change, was that Chief you liked

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Albi Kelly Held's ability to play with the ball at

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 2>his feet, and that's always been a little bit of

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 2>a question mark over Josh. He's a terrific shot stopper

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 2>and has actually improved with his feet, but still gives

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 2>you the odd nervous moment. But I think he's the

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 2>better shot stopping goalkeeper, and I agree he should be

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 2>number one and his performances a season. Even if Albert

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Kelly held was available, I think Josh would have had

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 2>the gloves. But it just seems odd to me. But

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>we don't know what happens, you know, in training and stuff, chief,

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 2>he said after the game yesterday. It's a contestable position

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 2>that number two spot. Amon mccawran is currently ahead of

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Albi Kelly healed and almost certainly will start against Victory.

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I have to say, though, Burge, if I'm the Central

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Coast Mariners, I'm peppering Amon mccawran's goal. They hardly tested

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 2>him yesterday. I know for a fact Melbournevie will be

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 2>absolutely peppering Amon mccarran's goal on the weekend.

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 3>It was a bit strange, wasn't it to be to

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 3>not see a few more shots and just not flinging

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 3>in some more crosses, just to hey, there's a kid

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 3>and goal. He's just come on, let's see what he's

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 3>made of. That's the standard thing in any level of football,

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.239
<v Speaker 3>isn't it. Let's test the new keeper, Let's give him

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 3>a bit of grief, Let's do a bit of sledging,

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 3>all that kind of stuff, and it didn't really happen,

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 3>which was a surprise.

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 2>And when it did, they scored. They had the shot

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>from outside the area. He's gone across to his left,

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, and any goalkeeping review and I'm not a keeper,

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>neither of you, and like you, it's a bit of

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>a mystery to me sometimes, but he should do better

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 2>with that, shouldn't he. I know's I don't want to

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>be too hard on an eighteen year old on debut

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>who's come off the bench unexpectedly, but as he goes across,

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 2>it seems to me as though you either hold that

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>or you push it wide. The fact that he's sort

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 2>of patted it back into a position where Sabaitnor was

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 2>able to come in and tuck it away, that's a

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 2>goalkeeping error for me. And look again, it's his debut,

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 2>and beyond that, I think he was pretty solid. But

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 2>it's still I think has to come under under scrutiny,

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 2>and it makes it so strange to me why the

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Mariners didn't didn't do that more, just fire shot him

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>from anywhere. Maybe you know, I'd have to have a look,

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 2>but maybe McCarran was protected a lot better by his

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 2>defense than I initially thought. But look, good luck to

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 2>the kid. You know, he'll have a he'll have an

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 2>absolute baptism of fire from it in a starting debut

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 2>at Amy Parking against Melbourn Victory on the weekend. And look,

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess we'll find out a lot more about him

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 2>then we will.

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 3>And the Phoenix have got a pretty good record of

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 3>bringing through young keepers, you know, they have done it

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 3>plenty of times in the past, so I'm looking forward

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 3>to seeing more of him. And but you are right,

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 3>he just needed to push that ball a bit further away.

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 3>It was a nice, very clever finish from a very

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 3>tight angle, but just need to push a bit away

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 3>because it could have been really costly to concede in

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 3>the fiftieth minute, basically after having the lead. In the

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 3>end it wasn't but could have been.

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>It could have been. They got the lead in the

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 2>thirty sixth Corbyn Piper. This was a terrific piece of

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 2>football from Kazuki Nagasawa, who I think just quietly is

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 2>just growing into quite an important part of this team.

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 2>He stole the ball in midfield, drove forward, played a

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 2>really clever pass into Piper who did what of control

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:39.479
<v Speaker 2>and then knock it passed Andrew Redmain for one nil.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Nill makes it, makes it one all at half time.

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 2>As I understand it, Birch Jihan Carlo Ataliano absolutely blew

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 2>up at halftime, peeled the paint off the walls inside

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 2>that changing room for letting the Mariners back into the

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 2>game in the fashion that they did. He wasn't having

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 2>a go at Amon McCarran, as I understand that, he

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 2>was more annoyed about Hughes playing the pass to is

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>a is not holding on to it. The marin is

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 2>getting the ball Rufer being stood up on the edge

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>of the area to allow the pitch you go to

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 2>get the shot away. And then Kelly held and James

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 2>not reacting quick enough when the ball was spilled by McCarran.

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.720
<v Speaker 2>By the sounds of it, he absolutely went to town

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 2>on them at halftime.

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 4>That's good, though, isn't it. It's good.

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 3>I think you've got to do that sometimes. The fans

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 3>love hearing about that. The players sometimes need that, they

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 3>need the wake up call because it's quite old fashioned.

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's the Alex Ferguson thing. But it's still relevant,

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's still still needed. And as you pinpointed

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 3>that sequence, there were five or six moments there weren't.

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 3>There are five or six little lapses that ended up

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 3>with the goal.

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, it clearly worked because it was almost the direct

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>opposite to last week where Wellington came out, you know,

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 2>after the break and consider what three and seven minutes

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it was. They didn't score three, but they

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 2>scored two pretty quickly. The penalty which was I'm not

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>quite sure how the referee hasn't seen that in real time.

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the clearest handballs I think I've ever seen.

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he was unsided, I don't know, but they got

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 2>the decision right at the ends. Interesting that man Draca

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 2>James took that penalty. Normally in football teams, if a

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 2>guy has scored a penalty, the next time a penalty

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 2>is awarded for his team, he takes it. He's on pens.

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 2>He scored the last one Ramy Nazerene scored against Adelaide

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 2>back in round six, but Man Draca James said afterwards

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 2>that because James was on the pitch during that time,

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>that James is the penalty taker. But at one Nill

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 2>ahead of Adelaide.

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 4>He wanted to give.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Ramy Nazerene a bit of a confidence boost, a first

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 2>goal for the club. He's a striker, Nazerene, so he

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 2>gave that spot. Keck up yesterday with the score at

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 2>one all, he thought this was a little bit more important.

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take responsibility, interesting little dynamic that I thought.

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Really interesting and really really unselfish, and consider it from James.

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 3>But he'll be the penalty taker. I mean, I really

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 3>like the look of that penalty. That's that's a penalty.

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.720
<v Speaker 3>That's a no start, a step, none of that crap.

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Just pick your spot, hit it well, hit it hard,

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 3>hit it in the corner. I mean, that's how you

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 3>take a penalty.

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, no doubt about it. And shortly after that,

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 2>back on the other end and Corbyn Piper plays one

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 2>across the box and Carlo Armiento excellent again, scored and

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 2>made it three to one. From there, the Phoenix managed

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the game pretty well. I mean, the Mariners are pretty limited.

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I have to say. They didn't really, as I said before,

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>present a huge threat to the goal of Amon McCarran.

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 2>And look, I think the you know, the result was

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the right one. I think the Phoenix managed it out

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty well. You wrote a piece ahead of this game,

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.879
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to read from this as well, talking

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 2>about a crucial six game stretch for Giancloataliano.

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 4>And you're right.

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 2>After Sunday so match against Central Coast which looms as

0:37:58.120 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I must win. Well, they've ticked that box.

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 4>You're right.

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 2>They have one of the toughest stretches of their season,

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 2>with the way matches against the Melbourne Victory, Brisbane Raw,

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Sydney FC and Newcastle Jets, along with another visit from

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Adelaide United is chief. He still under pressure. This win

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 2>alleviates the pressure, of course it does, but with a

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.879
<v Speaker 2>stretch like that coming up, he's still got to keep

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 2>on collecting points, doesn't he or his team does.

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean he's got to show that they've got

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 3>they've got more more to give and their progressing, because

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 3>that was the issue. It's not just about the points,

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 3>it's about where they were going, and no one could

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 3>really see where they were going. It just looked like

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 3>they were going. They were going downwards. There'll be underdogs

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 3>for all four of those away games, I would think,

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.760
<v Speaker 3>and even Adelaide it was a really good win against

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Adelaide a few weeks ago, but Adelaide was strangely off

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:54.399
<v Speaker 3>color when they came to Wellington or what happened there, So.

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:55.399
<v Speaker 4>They'll be better as well.

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 3>So that that's a really tough fixture list, but I

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:05.879
<v Speaker 3>guess it's because they had a comparatively more straightforward run

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 3>of games up till they haven't. There a lot of

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 3>home games and a lot of games against teams in

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 3>the bottom half of the table.

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 2>And they'll take a lift from yesterday, won't they. It

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>was obvious, wasn't it. I Mean, it's just it's absolutely

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 2>stating the obvious. But a win does massive things, not

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 2>just to a team, but to the crowd, those on

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 2>the bench, everybody associated with a football club. And I

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 2>think scoring first does that too, doesn't it. You know,

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 2>just getting a lead and then getting a win and everything.

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, you wake up here in Wellington this morning

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 2>and the sun's just a little bit brighter. I don't know,

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 2>it's just the tonic for everything is just winning football

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 2>matches really well.

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 3>You mentioned in training, you know this week they've all

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 3>got to spring in their step and the laughing and

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 3>the joking and the banter and that happens in any

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 3>week because that's what sports people do. They move on,

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:58.399
<v Speaker 3>they're professional. But there's no doubt that when you win,

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 3>it does change everything, changes everything for everyone involved with

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 3>the club, everyone who follows the club. And that's why

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 3>the run of games this season and the way they've

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 3>just conceded early goals, crazy goals often conceded first in

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 3>a game, has made it so hard for themselves. Now

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.720
<v Speaker 3>they've got a little they've got little, a little something

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:22.319
<v Speaker 3>to build on.

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've got to keep it going. They do.

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Marin's had the ball in the net early yesterday, didn't

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 2>They talked off a handball in the area. But yeah,

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 2>you're right. It just makes make such a difference. And

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 2>yet they'll be they'll be, They'll be swaggering into work,

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 2>not getting ahead of themselves. The same with the women's site.

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Imagine walking into training the day after a seven nil win.

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 2>You'd be high fives and all sorts going on, wouldn't there.

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the Phoenix, you're right. Both teams actually have

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.359
<v Speaker 2>to continue in the fashion that Aukland FC have done,

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 2>really just consistently stacked wins on top of wins on

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>top of wins and you know that is that is

0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 2>championship stuff. Ben Wayne won't be coming back to Wellington

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 2>or to the A League Burge he was. It was

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 2>a name on my laundry list that I that I

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 2>read out a few weeks ago on the pod. As

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 2>you understand, it will probably stay at Port Val. He

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 2>starting to get games there.

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:12.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, probably will.

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 3>And there was interest in him around that time you

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 3>read out your your wish list.

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 4>I know there was.

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 3>I know there was interest and I know he was

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 3>considering it. He was thinking, well, actually I'm not playing,

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 3>maybe I should go back because that World Cup is looming,

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 3>et cetera, et cetera. But he started to play at

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 3>Port Vale. He's got a goal or two and that's

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 3>where he wants to be. So it won't happen even

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 3>though there was there was interest.

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 2>All right. So there is still the chants for Wellington

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 2>to make some moves. They've got Herdecki a Shiga of

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 2>course out for the season, so they could if they

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 2>wanted to bring somebody in in January and import and

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 2>obviously look at other other players as well. Interesting I

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 2>mentioned last week on the pot ISA Prince has moved

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 2>to Auckland f C has been confirmed initially for the

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Oceania Pro League, but but Isopryns. I'm almost certain we'll

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 2>integrate into the A League squad as well. We might

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 2>even see him this season, who knows, but he's another

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 2>one to look out for. The table is just so

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 2>tight Perch. After nine rounds, Melbourne City and MacArthur play

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 2>game tomorrow night, so that'll complete a complete set of

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:20.399
<v Speaker 2>nine matches, each one point from fourth to ninth, six

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 2>teams that is within a point of each other, and

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 2>nine teams separated by just four points from fourth down

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 2>to last. I mean, Auckland FC and Sydney FC have

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 2>cleared out a little bit, but it feels like everybody else,

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.359
<v Speaker 2>the other ten teams in the league. On their day,

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 2>anyone can beat anyone. This feels like one of the

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 2>tightest A League seasons we've ever seen. And it's in

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 2>ten and to four does and go. But any of

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 2>those ten could pretty much end up in the top six.

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>With Auckland FC and Sydney FC.

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.240
<v Speaker 3>This is the perfect situation. This is why people enjoy

0:42:55.040 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 3>the A League so much because it's generally quite you know,

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 3>there's not these massive gaps or massive cohorts of teams top,

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 3>middle and bottom. So long mate continue, you know it

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 3>will eventually sort itself out. But the uncertainty is what

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 3>we love, isn't it. The uncertainty where you don't really

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 3>know what's going to happen.

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's demonstrated perfectly over the weekend. Five of

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 2>the six games and the A League mens this weekend,

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 2>or in five of them, the team lower on the

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 2>table beat the team higher on the table. The only

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 2>exception was Auckland FC beating the Wanderers. So in all

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:35.280
<v Speaker 2>of the other five games, yes it's a tight table,

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 2>but the team who started the game lower beat the

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 2>team who started the game higher, So it just goes

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 2>to show how tight it is. Sir Wellington off to

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Amy Park on Monday night to take on Melbourne victory.

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 2>They haven't won there since twenty seventeen. That seems like

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:54.399
<v Speaker 2>an awfully long time ago to me, eight years since

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 2>they've been to that patrograss and won a game. But

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 2>there's no time like the present, as they say. Quick

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 2>check on a couple of keys overseas. You mentioned Ben Wayne.

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Of course his Port Vale came up against Matt Garbet's

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Peterborough United, So KWV Kewe. In League One. Matt Garbet's

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Peterborough got the one nil win, but both of the

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 2>two players started. Ryan Thomas scored on his birthday for Peckswaller,

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 2>his first goal for anybody since twenty twenty one. I

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 2>know he's been out with injury, but that's an incredibly

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 2>long time since he last scored. And Tyler bind and

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<v Speaker 2>I was so delighted to see this burge. He was

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<v Speaker 2>out of the Sheffield United squad for ages. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play between the thirtieth of August and the sixth of December.

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<v Speaker 2>That's over three months without making the Sheffield United first team.

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<v Speaker 2>He's come back and he's starting to impress. Got a

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<v Speaker 2>goal and man of the match in a three nil

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<v Speaker 2>win over Birmingham in the Championship. We've known the quality

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<v Speaker 2>of Tyler Binden for a while, but I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be sitting on the bench, you know, six months out

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<v Speaker 2>from a World Cup.

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<v Speaker 3>And to go to a you know, he went to Okay,

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 3>it's a championship club, but it's a big chair chip

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<v Speaker 3>club with a lot of a lot of pressure. And

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<v Speaker 3>then what did they have to start the season? A

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<v Speaker 3>run of I think it was five defeats or by

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<v Speaker 3>a single goal, and the pressure just and he was

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<v Speaker 3>playing in those games, the pressure just ramped up. And

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<v Speaker 3>then new coach and he's not playing. So great resilience

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<v Speaker 3>from a guy who's still He's still a kid, isn't he.

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<v Speaker 3>We forget how young he still is because he's head

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<v Speaker 3>all this time, reading and all the things he's done

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<v Speaker 3>already in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the FAUCT just reading a few fan comments

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<v Speaker 2>after that game and they're very happy with Tyler Bind

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<v Speaker 2>and now that he's back in the team, I think

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<v Speaker 2>when he wasn't playing, a lot of people just forgot

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<v Speaker 2>about him.

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<v Speaker 4>Really.

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<v Speaker 2>He might have even gone back to Forest if Sheffield

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 2>United didn't want to play him and look for another

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 2>loan move somewhere because you've got to be playing. But

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<v Speaker 2>by the sounds of things, now he's back in A

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<v Speaker 2>goal will boost his confidence. He's getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>good raps from the fans. So yeah, well on to

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<v Speaker 2>Tylerbind and it's good to see him back in the

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<v Speaker 2>team and displaying the form we always knew that he had,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, but I don't it's one of those times

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. Well, that time of the year and

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<v Speaker 2>we don't actually know what day is, which day is

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<v Speaker 2>which I could say Saturday, I wouldn't be able to

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<v Speaker 2>see what date that was, but I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that Aukland FC on Saturday night play Sydney FC away,

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<v Speaker 2>two nights later Wellington Phoenix are away at Melbourne Victory,

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<v Speaker 2>and the following evening the Wellington Phoenix Women take on

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<v Speaker 2>Western Sydney. That is the thirtieth of December. So well,

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<v Speaker 2>it just remains for me to wish you and your

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<v Speaker 2>family are very merry Christmas and look forward to a

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<v Speaker 2>big twenty twenty six for football Fever and for the

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 2>game of football in general.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Pony, and same to you. I'm sure there'll be

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<v Speaker 3>a lot going on in the Pine Household which will

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<v Speaker 3>be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, absolutely, we'll catch you in twenty twenty six, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>Little Fever

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<v Speaker 3>M