1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:16,387 Speaker 2: The Black Ferns meet South Africa in the quarterfinals of 4 00:00:16,467 --> 00:00:20,027 Speaker 2: the Rugby World Cup and exitter tonight kickoff at midnight 5 00:00:20,067 --> 00:00:20,827 Speaker 2: New Zealand time. 6 00:00:21,987 --> 00:00:26,427 Speaker 3: Letting leaking up on the outside, Sorrenson McKay, Georgia Miller 7 00:00:26,867 --> 00:00:29,907 Speaker 3: trying to get on the outside poor buck and found 8 00:00:30,307 --> 00:00:32,867 Speaker 3: what have we just same? 9 00:00:33,907 --> 00:00:36,827 Speaker 2: What are the tries of the world job? Yeah, brilliant 10 00:00:36,867 --> 00:00:39,667 Speaker 2: tried to wrap a forty nerl win over Ireland in 11 00:00:39,707 --> 00:00:42,667 Speaker 2: the final Paul match. Black Ferns center Stacy Waka is 12 00:00:42,707 --> 00:00:46,307 Speaker 2: with us ahead of her milestone thirtieth test tonight. Stacy, 13 00:00:46,547 --> 00:00:49,187 Speaker 2: how happy of the players and coaching staff been with 14 00:00:49,227 --> 00:00:52,547 Speaker 2: your unbeaten run through Paul Pay? 15 00:00:52,747 --> 00:00:56,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're pretty sloked as a squad. We've obviously built 16 00:00:56,187 --> 00:00:58,947 Speaker 3: over these last three games. Haven't put out the perfect 17 00:00:59,027 --> 00:01:02,267 Speaker 3: so much yet, but we have found some things that 18 00:01:02,307 --> 00:01:05,187 Speaker 3: we can work on Stole, which is exciting because we 19 00:01:05,267 --> 00:01:07,867 Speaker 3: haven't really reached our peace again. There's definitely more potential 20 00:01:07,907 --> 00:01:10,067 Speaker 3: in the squad. But have we all thought we've done 21 00:01:10,107 --> 00:01:12,347 Speaker 3: so far? We just we know we've more to gift. 22 00:01:12,547 --> 00:01:15,187 Speaker 2: So in terms of those improvements and those growth areas, 23 00:01:15,227 --> 00:01:19,587 Speaker 2: anything in particular you've been focusing on, Oh, I think. 24 00:01:19,467 --> 00:01:22,107 Speaker 3: For us, it's just extracution of our game plan at 25 00:01:22,107 --> 00:01:24,387 Speaker 3: the right time in the game and in the right 26 00:01:24,427 --> 00:01:28,187 Speaker 3: parts of the field. Few little eras and penalties that 27 00:01:28,387 --> 00:01:30,507 Speaker 3: I think the first week we had like twenty five 28 00:01:30,627 --> 00:01:33,627 Speaker 3: plus or something and the end we're we sharpened that 29 00:01:33,667 --> 00:01:36,907 Speaker 3: down to nine, only nine against Island. So that was 30 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:39,947 Speaker 3: a massive growth area for us. And we know that 31 00:01:40,107 --> 00:01:42,867 Speaker 3: if we give those penalties away, or we give silly 32 00:01:42,907 --> 00:01:45,427 Speaker 3: eras away the other teams, we let them into the game, 33 00:01:45,627 --> 00:01:48,267 Speaker 3: then you know, it starts to become a chasing one 34 00:01:48,307 --> 00:01:50,707 Speaker 3: instead of us kind of being in control and full flow. 35 00:01:50,867 --> 00:01:53,547 Speaker 3: So yeah, hopefully a little less of those in the 36 00:01:53,587 --> 00:01:55,707 Speaker 3: next coming weeks and then we'll be good to go. 37 00:01:56,027 --> 00:01:58,867 Speaker 2: The game against Island forty nil, I think most people 38 00:01:58,907 --> 00:02:00,987 Speaker 2: expected it to be, you know, your toughest Paul game, 39 00:02:01,027 --> 00:02:02,747 Speaker 2: but you really put on a great performance. Were you 40 00:02:02,747 --> 00:02:05,387 Speaker 2: as pleased with the nil as you were with the 41 00:02:05,427 --> 00:02:06,867 Speaker 2: forty that day? 42 00:02:07,667 --> 00:02:10,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, honestly, I think we're happy with the nil 43 00:02:10,507 --> 00:02:12,107 Speaker 3: more so than the forty. I think we could have 44 00:02:12,187 --> 00:02:14,627 Speaker 3: probably put a few more tries on the board in 45 00:02:14,747 --> 00:02:16,827 Speaker 3: certain parts of the game, where like I said, we 46 00:02:16,867 --> 00:02:18,827 Speaker 3: gave way too many bottleties and we didn't have the 47 00:02:18,867 --> 00:02:22,147 Speaker 3: ball as such or as much in the second half. 48 00:02:22,507 --> 00:02:25,227 Speaker 3: So yeah, pretty please. With our defense, it's obviously been 49 00:02:25,267 --> 00:02:27,907 Speaker 3: a rick on from the last two of the first 50 00:02:27,907 --> 00:02:31,147 Speaker 3: few pool matches, so yeah, we'll keep grinding away at 51 00:02:31,147 --> 00:02:33,187 Speaker 3: that and hopefully we can give a few more donuts 52 00:02:33,227 --> 00:02:34,307 Speaker 3: to these next teams. 53 00:02:35,347 --> 00:02:37,907 Speaker 2: How much do you expect the intensity to ramp up 54 00:02:37,947 --> 00:02:39,267 Speaker 2: now that we're at knockout time? 55 00:02:40,147 --> 00:02:41,227 Speaker 1: Oh, it's nuts. 56 00:02:41,227 --> 00:02:43,627 Speaker 3: It's going to ramp up, peeps. And one not only 57 00:02:43,707 --> 00:02:47,147 Speaker 3: is it lookout around, but to the pressure. South Africa 58 00:02:47,147 --> 00:02:50,347 Speaker 3: has never been in this position before, so they're excited. 59 00:02:50,387 --> 00:02:53,387 Speaker 3: They've got absolutely nothing to lose. They're a really strong 60 00:02:53,387 --> 00:02:56,947 Speaker 3: and physical team, so I expect them to throw everything 61 00:02:57,067 --> 00:02:59,747 Speaker 3: at us, which is fair enough. It's a big game 62 00:03:00,107 --> 00:03:02,627 Speaker 3: and a big moment. But yeah, we've got some good 63 00:03:02,627 --> 00:03:04,747 Speaker 3: plans up our sleeves, so I can't wait to get 64 00:03:04,747 --> 00:03:05,667 Speaker 3: out there and play. 65 00:03:06,347 --> 00:03:08,507 Speaker 2: I said that I've named a seven to one bench 66 00:03:08,787 --> 00:03:12,107 Speaker 2: split as well, Yeah, which I mean, man, it's just 67 00:03:12,147 --> 00:03:15,067 Speaker 2: like obviously something their men's team has done to great 68 00:03:15,107 --> 00:03:17,307 Speaker 2: effect as well in recent times. What do you think 69 00:03:17,387 --> 00:03:19,627 Speaker 2: that says about the way that they want to play 70 00:03:19,627 --> 00:03:19,947 Speaker 2: the game. 71 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:23,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean it's not rocket science to know 72 00:03:24,027 --> 00:03:27,027 Speaker 3: that their forward's dominant team. If you watch their last 73 00:03:27,027 --> 00:03:29,587 Speaker 3: three matches, they love picking and going at the ruck. 74 00:03:29,667 --> 00:03:32,107 Speaker 3: They love using their big, strong forwards to get them 75 00:03:32,187 --> 00:03:35,027 Speaker 3: go forward and momentum. And they obviously have trust in 76 00:03:35,067 --> 00:03:38,387 Speaker 3: their backs when they need to. But it's heavily dominated 77 00:03:38,427 --> 00:03:40,547 Speaker 3: in the forward. So that's what they want to do, right. 78 00:03:40,547 --> 00:03:42,107 Speaker 3: They want to try and go through us, keep going 79 00:03:42,107 --> 00:03:44,827 Speaker 3: through us, keep going through us, and then recycle. That 80 00:03:44,947 --> 00:03:47,547 Speaker 3: was their seven to one split. But hey, when I 81 00:03:47,547 --> 00:03:49,747 Speaker 3: stopped that, we've practiced it all week. We've seen all 82 00:03:49,747 --> 00:03:51,987 Speaker 3: the footage that we need to see, and yeah, I 83 00:03:52,107 --> 00:03:52,867 Speaker 3: just say bring it on. 84 00:03:53,227 --> 00:03:55,507 Speaker 2: Good stuff. And I mean, all things being equal, as 85 00:03:55,547 --> 00:03:57,667 Speaker 2: you're saying, for them, nothing to lose really never been 86 00:03:57,707 --> 00:04:00,147 Speaker 2: this far. They can just throw the kitchen sink at it. 87 00:04:00,187 --> 00:04:02,387 Speaker 2: Nothing to lose for them from your point of view, 88 00:04:02,627 --> 00:04:05,267 Speaker 2: all things being equal, station you should beat South Africa. 89 00:04:05,387 --> 00:04:08,107 Speaker 2: So how do you avoid any possible complacency? 90 00:04:09,627 --> 00:04:09,867 Speaker 1: Yeah? 91 00:04:09,947 --> 00:04:13,227 Speaker 3: Look, I think we've talked about that the last three weeks. 92 00:04:13,347 --> 00:04:16,947 Speaker 3: We can't be complacent in any situation. Every team that 93 00:04:16,987 --> 00:04:19,667 Speaker 3: plays against us almost grows another arm in the leg 94 00:04:19,707 --> 00:04:22,867 Speaker 3: because the black jersey is so sacred or is so special. 95 00:04:23,187 --> 00:04:26,747 Speaker 3: And I've got a few team teammates, sorry, players in 96 00:04:26,827 --> 00:04:29,627 Speaker 3: that team who have played against on the World seven series, 97 00:04:29,667 --> 00:04:32,147 Speaker 3: and they said, you know, we've always been the nation 98 00:04:32,227 --> 00:04:34,787 Speaker 3: that they've looked up to that have inspired them to 99 00:04:34,867 --> 00:04:38,387 Speaker 3: want to be better. So it's easy for us to 100 00:04:38,507 --> 00:04:40,467 Speaker 3: kind of look at it like, oh, this is their 101 00:04:40,467 --> 00:04:43,307 Speaker 3: first time. But then where we're all I suppose humble 102 00:04:43,467 --> 00:04:46,587 Speaker 3: and excited players who just want to be better and 103 00:04:46,787 --> 00:04:50,827 Speaker 3: everything that we do, and so we'll never stay complacent 104 00:04:50,867 --> 00:04:52,667 Speaker 3: in what we have or what we've done. We're always 105 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:55,227 Speaker 3: finding ways to be better. It's the fours, that's the 106 00:04:55,267 --> 00:04:57,787 Speaker 3: backs and everything in our skill sets. So I'm pretty 107 00:04:57,827 --> 00:05:01,227 Speaker 3: confident that the girls will find their superpower this weekend. 108 00:05:01,667 --> 00:05:03,387 Speaker 2: So for you personally, you've been out of the Black 109 00:05:03,387 --> 00:05:06,347 Speaker 2: Ferns since the last Rugby World Cup sevens and obviously 110 00:05:06,547 --> 00:05:10,827 Speaker 2: Rugby league as well. How did you transition so seamlessly 111 00:05:10,947 --> 00:05:14,347 Speaker 2: back into fifteens when you returned in May of this year. 112 00:05:16,307 --> 00:05:19,627 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was a seamless transition. I think 113 00:05:21,147 --> 00:05:21,867 Speaker 3: I think I did that. 114 00:05:22,067 --> 00:05:22,867 Speaker 1: It's a lot of work. 115 00:05:23,787 --> 00:05:29,227 Speaker 3: I never really had ambitions to be here at first. 116 00:05:29,267 --> 00:05:31,747 Speaker 3: If you'd asked me three years ago, I thought, man, 117 00:05:31,867 --> 00:05:35,867 Speaker 3: that's me done at fifteens. But obviously jump out opportunities 118 00:05:35,867 --> 00:05:38,987 Speaker 3: when I can, but say no when this year came around. 119 00:05:39,067 --> 00:05:43,587 Speaker 3: And for me, it's easy physically to kind of transition 120 00:05:43,747 --> 00:05:46,227 Speaker 3: because you know, I'm fit, fas strong, whatever you need 121 00:05:46,227 --> 00:05:49,507 Speaker 3: to be in the condition. It's more the mental mindset 122 00:05:49,667 --> 00:05:53,787 Speaker 3: around understanding and learning new game plans, working with combinations 123 00:05:53,787 --> 00:05:57,507 Speaker 3: and connections with different teammates. Who will you know, we 124 00:05:57,547 --> 00:05:59,907 Speaker 3: all come from different regions, so coming together in this 125 00:05:59,987 --> 00:06:02,387 Speaker 3: fifteen set up for a World Cup is quite hard. 126 00:06:03,187 --> 00:06:05,947 Speaker 3: The detail in the game plan from the coaches is 127 00:06:05,947 --> 00:06:08,627 Speaker 3: obviously very different to some of these from last RealD Cup, 128 00:06:08,747 --> 00:06:10,987 Speaker 3: so you've had to put in a puttle work behind 129 00:06:11,027 --> 00:06:13,427 Speaker 3: the scenes. So obviously get up to speed or learn 130 00:06:13,467 --> 00:06:16,027 Speaker 3: everything and see all these different pictures. Because you play 131 00:06:16,027 --> 00:06:18,747 Speaker 3: seven's to just play to the space. There's a game plan, 132 00:06:18,827 --> 00:06:21,507 Speaker 3: but not really you just catch past run then that's it. 133 00:06:22,987 --> 00:06:23,587 Speaker 1: I love that. 134 00:06:23,827 --> 00:06:25,067 Speaker 2: I just want asking me to a couple of your 135 00:06:25,107 --> 00:06:26,827 Speaker 2: teammates she got a couple of the youngsters who are 136 00:06:26,827 --> 00:06:31,707 Speaker 2: catching the eye, Georgia Miller and Braxton Sorens and McGee man. 137 00:06:31,947 --> 00:06:34,507 Speaker 2: How much energy have those two in particular brought to 138 00:06:34,587 --> 00:06:35,987 Speaker 2: the to the fifteenth environment. 139 00:06:37,387 --> 00:06:41,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, actually they're both completely different people. So Brexa's 140 00:06:42,107 --> 00:06:44,547 Speaker 3: energy is very different. She's a bit more mellow and 141 00:06:44,627 --> 00:06:47,147 Speaker 3: shel You obviously see more in her actions than you 142 00:06:47,187 --> 00:06:49,827 Speaker 3: do with her kind of persona. Georgia Milo, on the 143 00:06:49,867 --> 00:06:52,587 Speaker 3: other hand, she's a bit loud and a bit out there. 144 00:06:52,747 --> 00:06:55,427 Speaker 3: She's very comfortable in your own skin, which I love. 145 00:06:55,987 --> 00:06:57,627 Speaker 3: But we do have a lot of banter with her. 146 00:06:57,827 --> 00:07:00,307 Speaker 3: She doesn't seem like she's only twenty one either. It's 147 00:07:00,347 --> 00:07:03,587 Speaker 3: like she's been here forever. But it's really cool, it's 148 00:07:03,627 --> 00:07:06,867 Speaker 3: real refreshing, it's really exciting. I mean, I'm glad they're 149 00:07:06,867 --> 00:07:09,027 Speaker 3: on our team because the flair and the skill that 150 00:07:09,067 --> 00:07:12,587 Speaker 3: they bring to our team is absolutely massive. So yeah, 151 00:07:12,867 --> 00:07:16,027 Speaker 3: it's call seeing them flow, flourish in every single way 152 00:07:16,707 --> 00:07:20,267 Speaker 3: doing their thing on the fields. Obviously real natural talent, 153 00:07:20,507 --> 00:07:23,467 Speaker 3: really gifted players, and yeah, I'm happy for them and 154 00:07:23,547 --> 00:07:25,707 Speaker 3: the marks they have stamped so far in the Wood Cup. 155 00:07:25,907 --> 00:07:28,267 Speaker 2: Indeed, and just to finish, Dacey, your third World Cup, 156 00:07:28,307 --> 00:07:32,587 Speaker 2: of course, how much guidance have you found yourself giving 157 00:07:32,627 --> 00:07:34,667 Speaker 2: to some of the younger players, some of the players 158 00:07:34,667 --> 00:07:36,467 Speaker 2: who are at their first one. 159 00:07:37,347 --> 00:07:40,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think honestly, it still goes both ways, Like, yes, 160 00:07:40,987 --> 00:07:43,627 Speaker 3: it's my third World carp and this is my thirty test. 161 00:07:43,707 --> 00:07:46,787 Speaker 3: It's taken ten years, so a little bit of a 162 00:07:46,827 --> 00:07:50,027 Speaker 3: few years to get there. But the confidence in these 163 00:07:50,067 --> 00:07:53,507 Speaker 3: girls young days is awesome, Like I'll share what I share, 164 00:07:53,587 --> 00:07:56,267 Speaker 3: but most of the time they already know, so it's 165 00:07:56,267 --> 00:07:58,307 Speaker 3: technically quite cool. And then they share things on me 166 00:07:58,387 --> 00:08:00,347 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, yeah, it's cool that you see 167 00:08:00,347 --> 00:08:03,267 Speaker 3: it this way. So that's probably the culture that we've 168 00:08:03,267 --> 00:08:06,187 Speaker 3: bought and we've made here is you know, everyone's been 169 00:08:06,427 --> 00:08:09,187 Speaker 3: putting in New South. Everyone has a voice. Ifyone's here 170 00:08:09,227 --> 00:08:13,507 Speaker 3: for a reason, So why do the old look younger 171 00:08:13,507 --> 00:08:15,587 Speaker 3: ones have to listen to old ones or other way around? 172 00:08:15,627 --> 00:08:18,427 Speaker 3: You know, as long as we can collaborate and work 173 00:08:18,427 --> 00:08:21,427 Speaker 3: in ways together, it will be beneficial for the whole team. 174 00:08:21,467 --> 00:08:24,027 Speaker 3: I definitely think that's how we work these days. 175 00:08:24,467 --> 00:08:26,627 Speaker 2: Well, over here, we're all stocking up on the coffee, 176 00:08:26,667 --> 00:08:30,467 Speaker 2: Stacey for the next three ois all the best please, yeah, 177 00:08:30,467 --> 00:08:32,627 Speaker 2: all the best agains South Africa in the first instance. 178 00:08:32,827 --> 00:08:34,427 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for taking the time for a chat. 179 00:08:35,427 --> 00:08:38,907 Speaker 3: No worries, thank you, and thank you for your early mornings. 180 00:08:38,907 --> 00:08:42,387 Speaker 3: I know it's hard and you'll put on a good show, 181 00:08:42,507 --> 00:08:43,907 Speaker 3: so stay with us. 182 00:08:44,427 --> 00:08:46,227 Speaker 2: We'll stay with you. Don't you worry about that, Stacy. 183 00:08:46,267 --> 00:08:48,827 Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, Stacey waka from the Black Ferns ahead of 184 00:08:48,827 --> 00:08:51,307 Speaker 2: their quarter final on the Rugby World Cup tonight just 185 00:08:51,387 --> 00:08:53,987 Speaker 2: after midnight New Zealand time is when that one kicks 186 00:08:54,027 --> 00:08:55,187 Speaker 2: off against South Africa. 187 00:08:55,987 --> 00:08:59,147 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 188 00:08:59,267 --> 00:09:02,547 Speaker 1: to News Talk z B weekends from midday or follow 189 00:09:02,587 --> 00:09:04,187 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.