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Speaker 1: Verry Soper, Senior political correspondent. Very good afternoon, afternoon. Right,

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Speaker 1: you've come with the receipts on GoF you've got the clips,

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Speaker 1: you've got the audio.

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Speaker 2: For Old Phil Hay just can't keep his trap shut

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Speaker 2: and that really is a problem for an ambassador when

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Speaker 2: well he's the High Commissioner. But nevertheless he is the

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Speaker 2: top diplomat that we've got in Britain. You know, he

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Speaker 2: was at an event at Chatham House and the old

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Speaker 2: Chatham House rules clearly did it in the play, which

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Speaker 2: was a bit of a pity really for him. But

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Speaker 2: basically the video shows Golf speaking at an event there

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Speaker 2: with Finland's Foreign minister. It was a panel and during

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Speaker 2: the Q and A the two were discussing how Finland

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Speaker 2: kept peace on its border with Russia. Now this is

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Speaker 2: how Phil Goff effectively finished his career as a diplomat.

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Speaker 2: Asking a question of the uncomfortable Finnish politician.

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Speaker 3: And High Commissioner. I was rereading Churchill's speech to the

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Speaker 3: House of Commons in nineteen thirty eight after the Munich agreement,

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Speaker 3: and he turned to Chamberlain. He said, you had the

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Speaker 3: choice between war and disignor you chose disignor, yet you

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Speaker 3: will have war. President Trump has restored the bust of

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Speaker 3: Churchill to the Oval Office, But do you think he

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Speaker 3: really understands history.

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Speaker 4: I will limit myself to saying that in this time,

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Speaker 4: and I did it myself. I quote it Winston Churchill,

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Speaker 4: and I think he has met very timeless remarks.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was a diplomatic answer, so little did she

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Speaker 2: realize just how timeless what was going to be for

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Speaker 2: Phil Goff which he made those remarks. The thing is

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Speaker 2: that that bust has been restored to the Oval Office,

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Speaker 2: and it's Churchill in his military fatigue when he went

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Speaker 2: to come to see Roosevelt during the Second World War.

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Speaker 2: And of course Dolenski got told off for not getting

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Speaker 2: in exactly, so there's an irony there. But Helen Clark

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Speaker 2: said that she thought it was a very thin excuse

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Speaker 2: for second Phil Gough. But look, I'm sorry, if you're

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Speaker 2: a diplomat, you can say that. As a politician, maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe get away with it, as Chris ha consent. But

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Speaker 2: when you're dealing with somebody like Donald Trump who's ultra sensitive.

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Speaker 1: And you've got tariffs coming at you like bullets.

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Speaker 2: Precisely, and this if Donald Trump takes any notice of this,

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Speaker 2: which he probably won't, but if he did, then New

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Speaker 2: Zealand could be in a better position that might otherwise

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Speaker 2: have been, and that we look Philly strong.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you kept jokes like that from diplomats who are

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Speaker 1: representing our government, not themselves, playing fast and loose with

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Speaker 1: our bread and butter at the mind.

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Speaker 2: I can't do it.

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Speaker 1: You can't do it now. The Crown Account is just

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Speaker 1: going to sorry Winston Peters because he said it wasn't

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Speaker 1: an easy decision for him to make.

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Speaker 5: Made that comment about Germany, France, Tomrol Summer, I'd have

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Speaker 5: been forced to act in this seriously regretabook one of

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Speaker 5: the most difficult things once had to do in a

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Speaker 5: whole career. Bok with phill Golf and known them for

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Speaker 5: a long time. I've worked in government with them. It's

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Speaker 5: just seriously disappointing one has to make.

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Speaker 2: See. The thing is that Winston Peters did get on

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Speaker 2: quite well with so it probably was hard. I think

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Speaker 2: he should have to go with Mallard and we allould

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Speaker 2: have been happy in Ireland.

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Speaker 1: Well not least Mallard knows when to shut up.

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Speaker 2: Well, he hasn't said seen anything since he's.

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Speaker 1: Been exactly, he knows he's onto the good wicked exactly,

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Speaker 1: keep quite keep thinking, Guinness. Now the Crown accounts actually

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Speaker 1: quite positive.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's good. Finally we've seen some good news.

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Speaker 2: But then they're based on treasury predictions that we had

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Speaker 2: last year and we know how accurate they are, and

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Speaker 2: it allows the politicians to crow about it. But the

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Speaker 2: thing that I really do like about these answers that

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Speaker 2: tax revenue for the seven months of the fiscal year

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Speaker 2: to the end of January up by more than seventy

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Speaker 2: billion dollars and that's that's high, and it just goes

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Speaker 2: to show that business is starting to rebound if you like.

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Speaker 2: It's six hundred million higher than forecast. And GST is

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Speaker 2: also up quite considerably, so people are out there spending

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Speaker 2: a bit more. And if these figures can be built

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Speaker 2: on New Zealand, hopefully will finally have turned the corner

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Speaker 2: with Adrian or not being about to interfere in things.

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Speaker 2: Just had to add to end that in there.

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Speaker 1: You had to get that in there, didn't Yep. Brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Great to see you as always.

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Speaker 1: Barry Soper, Senior Political correspondent with us here on news

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