1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks a B. 3 00:00:13,133 --> 00:00:15,693 Speaker 2: Well, look, we're all open minded on this program, aren't we, 4 00:00:16,253 --> 00:00:17,773 Speaker 2: So that sounds a little bit different. 5 00:00:18,453 --> 00:00:21,373 Speaker 3: I'm going to be the first to say it. This 6 00:00:21,573 --> 00:00:22,053 Speaker 3: is hooked. 7 00:00:23,293 --> 00:00:25,853 Speaker 2: It's a new song from Franz Ferdinand. They've got an 8 00:00:25,853 --> 00:00:28,053 Speaker 2: album called The Human Fear, so at least they're sort 9 00:00:28,093 --> 00:00:31,093 Speaker 2: of sticking with a theme there. But Steale Clifford, our 10 00:00:31,173 --> 00:00:33,493 Speaker 2: music reviewer, has been listening to it and she's with 11 00:00:33,613 --> 00:00:35,773 Speaker 2: us now gelled as Dale, how are you doing. 12 00:00:36,613 --> 00:00:39,333 Speaker 4: I'm glad that we've started right with that song because 13 00:00:39,653 --> 00:00:42,053 Speaker 4: it's probably the only song on the album that doesn't 14 00:00:42,133 --> 00:00:43,493 Speaker 4: jump out as Franz Ferdinand. 15 00:00:43,693 --> 00:00:46,453 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's definitely different. It's different. 16 00:00:46,813 --> 00:00:48,493 Speaker 4: So I don't know if you've ever heard, but the 17 00:00:48,653 --> 00:00:52,333 Speaker 4: genre that they're in right that early two thousand snaughties 18 00:00:52,453 --> 00:00:56,173 Speaker 4: kind of bands that are the UK post post punk grunge. 19 00:00:56,293 --> 00:00:58,493 Speaker 4: They're actually now dubbed Indie Sleeves. 20 00:00:59,053 --> 00:01:01,973 Speaker 3: Oh yeah that fits, yeah, yeah, it does fit. 21 00:01:02,053 --> 00:01:06,373 Speaker 4: Indy Sleeves are the Arctic Monk Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 22 00:01:06,413 --> 00:01:08,413 Speaker 4: all those guys, yeah, they're all the Arctics Leaves kind 23 00:01:08,413 --> 00:01:10,973 Speaker 4: of group. But they weren't called that then. They're just 24 00:01:11,053 --> 00:01:12,893 Speaker 4: known as that now because it's kind of like they're 25 00:01:13,133 --> 00:01:15,293 Speaker 4: the grungy you went to the pubs and you had 26 00:01:15,293 --> 00:01:16,773 Speaker 4: a sneaky snog in the bathroom. 27 00:01:16,893 --> 00:01:19,493 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, I. 28 00:01:19,453 --> 00:01:24,413 Speaker 4: Mean apparently apparently yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm like, yeah, 29 00:01:24,453 --> 00:01:26,733 Speaker 4: that song just like is totally there. But then there's 30 00:01:26,733 --> 00:01:29,573 Speaker 4: that like electronic rock thing where you're like, it sounds 31 00:01:29,573 --> 00:01:31,533 Speaker 4: like we're in a video game, and then it's got 32 00:01:31,533 --> 00:01:35,573 Speaker 4: that really kind of almost scary, weird voice lower tone, 33 00:01:36,093 --> 00:01:38,733 Speaker 4: So it just like really snaps out from the rest 34 00:01:38,733 --> 00:01:41,293 Speaker 4: of the album because as you'll hear when you play 35 00:01:41,493 --> 00:01:43,333 Speaker 4: some more of the music, it really does sound like 36 00:01:43,333 --> 00:01:46,973 Speaker 4: Frans Ferdinand's from the early two thousand, but not that song. 37 00:01:47,973 --> 00:01:49,573 Speaker 4: But I think that's kind of good, Like there's sort 38 00:01:49,573 --> 00:01:52,213 Speaker 4: of some stuff they're trying out and that electerally rock 39 00:01:52,293 --> 00:01:56,813 Speaker 4: dance thing. For some reason, lead singer Alex's voice, you know, 40 00:01:56,853 --> 00:01:59,413 Speaker 4: it still sort of captures you in that weird, creepy 41 00:01:59,493 --> 00:02:01,373 Speaker 4: kind of way in that song because of that lower 42 00:02:01,373 --> 00:02:04,493 Speaker 4: tone that he's doing. So so that's there. There's that song, 43 00:02:04,853 --> 00:02:08,613 Speaker 4: and then we'll jump into all the ordinand normal kind 44 00:02:08,653 --> 00:02:10,533 Speaker 4: of you know how they have those real catchy guitar 45 00:02:10,613 --> 00:02:12,893 Speaker 4: riffs usually that start most of their song. 46 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:14,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, heaps of that. 47 00:02:15,533 --> 00:02:18,013 Speaker 4: Funny kind of album because I was I was well 48 00:02:18,053 --> 00:02:20,453 Speaker 4: into their debut self titled. 49 00:02:20,213 --> 00:02:24,693 Speaker 3: Album, Yeah, take Me Out yez. 50 00:02:24,333 --> 00:02:26,573 Speaker 4: Yeah, all those all those songs. I was really into that. 51 00:02:26,613 --> 00:02:29,333 Speaker 4: So this album, like you start it and the first 52 00:02:29,333 --> 00:02:31,253 Speaker 4: song didn't kind of hit for me to start with 53 00:02:31,413 --> 00:02:33,413 Speaker 4: us a little bit like, Oh, I don't know why, 54 00:02:33,413 --> 00:02:35,293 Speaker 4: because it still has that guitar riff kind of thing, 55 00:02:35,293 --> 00:02:37,293 Speaker 4: and I think I just haven't listen to something that's 56 00:02:37,373 --> 00:02:40,053 Speaker 4: quite theatrical for a while, because there's still that about 57 00:02:40,093 --> 00:02:44,373 Speaker 4: their music too. Every song has that grandiose theatrical like 58 00:02:44,453 --> 00:02:48,013 Speaker 4: you're strutting yourself down the street something about life. So 59 00:02:48,093 --> 00:02:50,493 Speaker 4: there's still that. There's probably a little bit more of 60 00:02:50,533 --> 00:02:53,093 Speaker 4: that because it is obviously about all the affairs that 61 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:55,173 Speaker 4: we have in human existence, and there's a little bit 62 00:02:55,213 --> 00:02:59,813 Speaker 4: more perhaps vulnerability, bit more rawness in some of the 63 00:02:59,893 --> 00:03:02,493 Speaker 4: lyrics and some of the vocals from Alex, But I 64 00:03:02,533 --> 00:03:04,533 Speaker 4: think it's still a lot of what you expect from 65 00:03:04,573 --> 00:03:07,773 Speaker 4: these guys with with those builds that they do, they 66 00:03:07,773 --> 00:03:09,853 Speaker 4: sort of capture you with some sort of like cheeky 67 00:03:09,973 --> 00:03:12,653 Speaker 4: riff first, and then you're like, oh no, that's kind 68 00:03:12,693 --> 00:03:14,133 Speaker 4: of got under my skin. And then you're sort of, 69 00:03:14,333 --> 00:03:17,173 Speaker 4: you know, going into more of the music. Build it up, 70 00:03:17,213 --> 00:03:18,773 Speaker 4: which is the tune you're going to play next. It 71 00:03:18,773 --> 00:03:22,013 Speaker 4: has this kind of snazzy jazz I think maybe there's 72 00:03:22,013 --> 00:03:24,213 Speaker 4: a double bass in the background, but then you still 73 00:03:24,253 --> 00:03:26,053 Speaker 4: mix that in with what you know is the big 74 00:03:26,093 --> 00:03:29,613 Speaker 4: guitar stuff from the Friends Ferdinand. There's a couple of 75 00:03:29,613 --> 00:03:32,053 Speaker 4: tunes too where actually the piano takes the lead, and 76 00:03:32,093 --> 00:03:34,333 Speaker 4: those are really good. I think it's a good show 77 00:03:34,373 --> 00:03:38,013 Speaker 4: off of that they can be quite musically diverse if 78 00:03:38,013 --> 00:03:40,253 Speaker 4: they want to be. Yeah, yeah, but still with that 79 00:03:40,373 --> 00:03:43,093 Speaker 4: constant forward I always feel like when I listen to 80 00:03:43,093 --> 00:03:45,333 Speaker 4: Friends Ferdinand that I'm just going to be stomping through 81 00:03:45,373 --> 00:03:48,133 Speaker 4: the day, you know, that forward momentum kind of place 82 00:03:48,173 --> 00:03:50,373 Speaker 4: that they have about them, So that's still all exists 83 00:03:50,373 --> 00:03:52,293 Speaker 4: in there. I also think it's really funny that this 84 00:03:52,373 --> 00:03:54,613 Speaker 4: is an album about all the different fears of human 85 00:03:54,653 --> 00:03:58,453 Speaker 4: existence and then there's a track called cats, like are 86 00:03:58,493 --> 00:04:02,253 Speaker 4: we all just really terrified of cats? Maybe? But if 87 00:04:02,253 --> 00:04:04,133 Speaker 4: you yeals a little deeper into the lyrics, which is 88 00:04:04,173 --> 00:04:07,173 Speaker 4: what this album. You kind of get hits, so first 89 00:04:07,213 --> 00:04:09,813 Speaker 4: by all the music and production, and then a couple 90 00:04:09,813 --> 00:04:12,493 Speaker 4: of listens and you get more of the lyrics stuff. 91 00:04:12,773 --> 00:04:15,373 Speaker 4: And Cats isn't just about being scared of cats and 92 00:04:15,413 --> 00:04:20,573 Speaker 4: the assassiness, but also more that trying to trying to 93 00:04:20,653 --> 00:04:22,693 Speaker 4: keep in your inner animal instincts. 94 00:04:22,973 --> 00:04:24,573 Speaker 3: Yeah right, oh my god. 95 00:04:24,613 --> 00:04:28,373 Speaker 4: It leads straight into it's alwa starting to make sense. 96 00:04:31,733 --> 00:04:34,693 Speaker 4: Hates the catching beats. There's rhythms that will just you know, like, 97 00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:37,613 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot that's instantly recognizable because Alex 98 00:04:37,693 --> 00:04:39,973 Speaker 4: uses more of that what you're you normally hear with 99 00:04:39,973 --> 00:04:42,733 Speaker 4: Franz Ferdinand and most of the album, so there's more 100 00:04:42,733 --> 00:04:44,773 Speaker 4: of that kind of stuff. And I do wonder if 101 00:04:44,813 --> 00:04:47,613 Speaker 4: it is an album that if you were a fan 102 00:04:47,733 --> 00:04:49,333 Speaker 4: in the past, this is probably one you're going to 103 00:04:49,373 --> 00:04:49,733 Speaker 4: really like. 104 00:04:49,893 --> 00:04:51,813 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, I don't know if you. 105 00:04:51,853 --> 00:04:53,373 Speaker 4: Have to be a fan, but I think for it 106 00:04:53,373 --> 00:04:55,733 Speaker 4: to get under your skin, if you'd instantly be like, oh, yeah, 107 00:04:55,853 --> 00:04:58,093 Speaker 4: I know there's guys, you probably have to have had 108 00:04:58,093 --> 00:05:01,453 Speaker 4: some experience with with what it's about. Yeah, it's safe. 109 00:05:01,573 --> 00:05:04,573 Speaker 4: Nothing to out there except for that dark hook song. 110 00:05:04,533 --> 00:05:06,853 Speaker 3: That was pretty out there. There was there more out 111 00:05:06,893 --> 00:05:08,613 Speaker 3: there than I anticipated. 112 00:05:08,573 --> 00:05:10,413 Speaker 4: The most challenging, so I'm kind of glad that we've 113 00:05:10,453 --> 00:05:10,733 Speaker 4: led them. 114 00:05:10,893 --> 00:05:12,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's good. Yeah, you can. 115 00:05:12,493 --> 00:05:14,973 Speaker 4: Go into sort of some of this stuff is quite pretty, 116 00:05:15,013 --> 00:05:18,733 Speaker 4: but it's also just that indy, catchy guitar band stuff, 117 00:05:18,733 --> 00:05:20,973 Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, so you'll definitely get to hear more 118 00:05:20,973 --> 00:05:22,733 Speaker 4: of that, and I think that's the stuff that will 119 00:05:22,933 --> 00:05:26,893 Speaker 4: feel more familiar for those then it's good. 120 00:05:26,893 --> 00:05:29,333 Speaker 2: Look, we don't want to stifle creativity, do we. 121 00:05:29,573 --> 00:05:31,453 Speaker 4: Even again, they haven't gone too far, if you know 122 00:05:31,493 --> 00:05:33,253 Speaker 4: what I mean. It's like they try a little bit there, 123 00:05:33,573 --> 00:05:34,053 Speaker 4: but you're not. 124 00:05:34,053 --> 00:05:35,613 Speaker 3: But everything else is a bit more familiar. 125 00:05:35,693 --> 00:05:36,173 Speaker 4: Yeah. 126 00:05:35,973 --> 00:05:37,173 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. 127 00:05:37,213 --> 00:05:38,453 Speaker 4: That's a good place exactly. 128 00:05:38,493 --> 00:05:39,653 Speaker 3: It's a nice kind of medium. 129 00:05:39,493 --> 00:05:42,813 Speaker 2: Isn't it. Yeah yeah, yeah, something for the fans, something 130 00:05:42,813 --> 00:05:45,053 Speaker 2: a bit new as well. Okay, what did you give 131 00:05:45,133 --> 00:05:46,053 Speaker 2: the human fear? 132 00:05:46,373 --> 00:05:48,053 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to give it a seven out of ten. 133 00:05:48,213 --> 00:05:50,773 Speaker 4: Nice sit with you for a bit, get through some 134 00:05:50,813 --> 00:05:50,973 Speaker 4: of that. 135 00:05:51,173 --> 00:05:54,013 Speaker 2: Yes, maybe not a first first time listen one as well. 136 00:05:54,293 --> 00:05:55,613 Speaker 2: It takes a little bit of time just to. 137 00:05:55,613 --> 00:05:57,893 Speaker 4: Kind of Yeah, maybe that's okay too, Yeah. 138 00:05:57,733 --> 00:05:59,213 Speaker 3: Very good. All right, we'll have more of a listen. 139 00:05:59,253 --> 00:06:01,733 Speaker 2: We'll listen to the one with the jazzy bit you reckon, 140 00:06:01,733 --> 00:06:02,693 Speaker 2: that's the jazzy bit one. 141 00:06:02,693 --> 00:06:05,813 Speaker 3: We'll pick that out. Very good. 142 00:06:05,853 --> 00:06:07,853 Speaker 2: Thanks us down Well, catch your next way. Estelle Cliff 143 00:06:07,853 --> 00:06:09,813 Speaker 2: at our music Reviewer, they are seven out of ten 144 00:06:09,853 --> 00:06:11,453 Speaker 2: for the Human Fear from Frans Food Name. 145 00:06:11,973 --> 00:06:15,053 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 146 00:06:15,173 --> 00:06:17,973 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 147 00:06:18,053 --> 00:06:19,893 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.