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Speaker 2: Hey get afternoon, Welcome to the show coming out today.

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Speaker 2: GPS and nurses are going to be able to diagnose

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Speaker 2: and treat ADHD. Lots of people be stoked about that.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to the GPS. Is there or is there

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Speaker 2: not a ceasefire between Israel and Iran? Will go to

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey miller Gy, a political analyst. And also have you

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Speaker 2: seen the flash new public toilets in Wellington? Let me

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Speaker 2: tell you about them.

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Speaker 1: Good for Heather duplicy Alan.

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Speaker 2: Right, so this little thing is back again. A group

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Speaker 2: of Hagley College students want to rename Rolliston abb in

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Speaker 2: christ Church because they've discovered that the man that the

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Speaker 2: road is named after, one William Rolston, was a central

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Speaker 2: figure leading to the invasion of Padihaka in the eighteen eighties,

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Speaker 2: and they think that by continuing to name the road

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Speaker 2: And this idea has Land did well with at least

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Speaker 2: one counselor, Tyler Harrison Hunt, who says we actually do

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Speaker 2: need to be more informed about William Rolliston.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what?

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Speaker 2: I agree with her? Generally, I agree with that you

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Speaker 2: got to know your history. So let me tell you

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Speaker 2: about William Rolliston. Yep. He was Native minister at the time,

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Speaker 2: so he was instrumental in the invasion of Paddihuker, which

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Speaker 2: is one of the blights on our historical record. Women

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Speaker 2: It has led to decades and decades and generations of sadness.

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Speaker 2: William Rolliston also helped to establish the Canterbury Museum and

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Speaker 2: if we're going to strip historical names from complex figures,

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Speaker 2: some he was a military genius. He's also the man

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Speaker 2: our history is shocking, but we wouldn't know our history

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Speaker 2: if we didn't remember these names. And part of the

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Speaker 1: Hever do see out nine two.

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Speaker 2: Nine two is the text number. Standard text fees apply.

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Speaker 2: We're going to speak to that councilor actually about a

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Speaker 2: half past five now, Shane Jones is drafting a bill

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Speaker 2: North Island Ewing Napui is made up of a whole

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Speaker 4: Reached the point where we can no longer afford this

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Speaker 4: Will ensure that Hapu sovereignty never gets to mention undivided sovereignty,

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Speaker 2: What do you think of this bill?

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Speaker 2: Is there a problem with it? Is that do you

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, listen, Peter, I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, everybody, everybody, nobody who owns a home will

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Speaker 2: Heather. According to The New York Times, I run has

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Speaker 2: confirmed the cease fire with Israel after the Trump announcement. Tom,

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Speaker 2: this shortly right now though. Seventeen past four and Darcy

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Speaker 2: Watergrave Sports Talk Hoosters with Mellow Dust. Hello, dull.

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Speaker 7: A high high ankle sprain.

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Speaker 8: He got he got hit dropped by Scott Sorenson over

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Speaker 8: the weekend and wasn't really noticed at the time, but

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Speaker 8: First ten rounds out well that brokenrist, broken hand, and

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Speaker 2: Did you stay on the field after the injury?

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Speaker 8: I don't think so, so he went on, No, no,

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Speaker 2: Because I can't remember him going off. She's look at

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Speaker 2: I think we are. I think we're over the hell?

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Speaker 2: Ye can remember anyway? There just crowd crowdsources information did

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Speaker 2: Dellan were tennis of Lisbie.

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Speaker 8: At that stage in the game. But I've chosen to

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Speaker 2: Hey what about lu Lusun? Is this important?

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Speaker 8: She got injured and she went off the park. No,

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Speaker 8: just didn't quite get this. She's ranked forty six in

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Speaker 2: Does they strapped him up on the field? He tried,

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Speaker 2: by the mighty mart Now how long? How how long

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Speaker 2: So is he going to be there for the finals? Ebit?

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Speaker 8: Well, they seem to think it'll be three to five weeks,

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Speaker 8: the playoffs. Okay, yeah, sorry, and I'm just grimacing. I

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Speaker 8: feel sorry for him. It's an awful year.

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Speaker 2: So fast doesn't look happy at the moment?

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Speaker 7: Does he thank you for a number of reasons.

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Speaker 8: But that's okay.

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Speaker 2: What have you got on the show this evening?

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Speaker 8: Will we'll be talking to no hot hand Hope them

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Speaker 8: as I like to call him. Who's the half back

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Speaker 8: who's come out of after winning a title for the Crusaders,

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Speaker 8: all black?

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Speaker 8: I want to talk about the issues in no wingers. Two.

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Speaker 2: Well, Darcie. We'll be taking seven o'clock sports stalk coast

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Speaker 2: That'd be a yeah. So listen, this is where we're

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Speaker 2: it to cost for six toilets? Two point three million dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of money for toilets. I did a

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Speaker 1: Recamping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines. It's

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Speaker 10: That'd be.

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Speaker 2: Here that you can build an actual mansion for two

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Speaker 2: You could get that for two million, or you could

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Speaker 2: to Diane Calvert about that. She's honestly Wellington City Council

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Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos, She'll be with us quarter passed by by

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Speaker 2: Do you know how much money he speaking of? Like

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Speaker 11: I tell you what if the wedding plan charges three

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Speaker 11: I mean, people had better not wait in line all day.

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Speaker 2: I think everything should happen forthwith stat be the best

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks. It'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump says Israel and Iran have agreed to a ceasefire.

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Speaker 7: They're always complicated. The troops on the ground don't get

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Speaker 14: There's always a lighter shooting, but it usually sorts itself out.

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Speaker 15: What my government does is acting in an orderly, coherent way,

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: Murray Old's Australia corresponds.

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Speaker 7: With us Now, ho, muz, very good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 16: Yes, yes, yes. This is the case of the accused

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Speaker 16: He said, it was her decision was not required to

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Speaker 16: to follow it. But imagine being in that jury box

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Speaker 16: after all this time, all this time, and I must

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Speaker 16: be thinking, bluddy, how will you shut up and let

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Speaker 16: us go start deliberate.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't it last week that you I'm sure it was

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Speaker 2: like last Tuesday, if not the thursday before that you

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Speaker 2: and I was saying, oh, it's going to wrap up, buddy,

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Speaker 2: end of this week, and here we are, we're still

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Speaker 2: we're still waiting for so I mean, yeah, anyway, well,

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Speaker 2: hopefully it's worth it so much.

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Speaker 16: To take in I mean, with the plates different colors?

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Speaker 16: Was her plate a different color to the deadly plates?

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Speaker 16: I mean, there's so much for the jury.

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Speaker 2: I really feel like you could whip through that summary

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Speaker 2: quite fast. Don't you think really getting their money is

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Speaker 2: worth you? Anyway? Listen, tell me what's going on with

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Speaker 2: the flights because of the conflict.

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Speaker 16: Okay, well you got Quantus and Virgin operating. I think

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Speaker 16: daily flights are certainly in Quantas's case, I think Virgin

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Speaker 16: as well, which is operating in conjunction with Cutter Airways.

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Speaker 16: So there were flights to and from London and Sydney

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Speaker 16: and various spots across Australia, Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth as well.

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Speaker 16: Now some flights, for example, this morning the Perth to

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Speaker 16: London flight for Quantus was diverted to Singapore when Iran

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Speaker 16: targeted that American air base and Cutter the flight Perth

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Speaker 16: to Paris was turned back by Quantus back to Western Australia.

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Speaker 16: But this puzzles me here and my geography might not

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Speaker 16: be too good, but Sydney to London, London Sydney via

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Speaker 16: Singapore will are operating normally, as are flights from Perth

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Speaker 16: to Rome and Rome to Perth and Perth to London.

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Speaker 16: So there's a couple of flights to Doha from Sydney

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Speaker 16: and Brisbane this afternoon heading up to Doha on Cutter

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Speaker 16: Airways the courtesy of Virgin and those flights are going

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Speaker 16: ahead as well last time I checked in the newsroom.

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Speaker 16: Those flights are proceeding, but obviously delays will be applied

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Speaker 16: here because you're gonna they want to make one hundred

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Speaker 16: and one percent sure of their space is clear. Until that,

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Speaker 16: of course, both airlines saying you're out of your mind.

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Speaker 16: I think we're going to risk airline passengers and crew

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Speaker 16: and of course they're very expensive aircraft to rights.

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Speaker 2: It's good to talk to you, always is. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you hopefully next time we talk to you that

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Speaker 2: that jury has gone out. That's mury Old's Australia correspondent

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Speaker 2: here that for two point five million, not only could

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Speaker 2: you build a mansion, but you could have six toilets

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Speaker 2: in it. Got in new and I venture to say, Steve,

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Speaker 2: you could probably have a disco light wolf if you

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Speaker 2: wanted to, and you would still you would still have

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Speaker 2: a house all around that stuff, not like Wellington anyway. Listen,

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Speaker 2: some stupid things if if gas, IF gas related stories

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Speaker 2: and stupidity around it will get your wound up. I've

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Speaker 2: got something to tell you about that shortly, but I

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Speaker 2: have to before the end of this half hour. But

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Speaker 2: just big shout out because there's big musical news. David

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Speaker 2: Whole Evans has finally become an Irish citizen. Now this

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Speaker 2: is a big deal because David Hoole Evans is also

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Speaker 2: known as the Edge from U two and I didn't

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Speaker 2: realize this, but the man is sixty three and has

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Speaker 2: lived for sixty two years in Ireland and not being

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Speaker 2: an Irish citizen. He was born in England. Anyway, he says,

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Speaker 2: bit tardy with the paperwork, finally got it filed, finally

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Speaker 2: being given what he thought he had this whole time.

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Speaker 2: Ete politics is next sixteen away from five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 2: Jason Wall's news dogs. Here'd be political editors with us

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Speaker 2: A Jason, good afternoon. So did the Greens and Winston

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Speaker 2: have a bit of a spat? Did they?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 17: They held hands and they hugged and said that they

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Speaker 17: were the best. Of course they had a spat. It

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Speaker 17: wouldn't be Parliament with out those two going loggerheads. It

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Speaker 17: was quite an interesting one because it started with a

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Speaker 17: ministerial statement that Winston Peters gave as Foreign Minister, and

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Speaker 17: Winston started the proceedings where it was. It was quite pointed,

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Speaker 17: I thought, have a listen, we.

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Speaker 14: Prefer diplomacy to moral outrage. Indeed, ours is a foreign

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Speaker 14: Polosi up letting all the facts, hearing all the Peters

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Speaker 14: and applying a careful, reasonable, call headed approach to the situation,

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Speaker 14: not knee jerk reaction and simplistic moral posturing. Those in

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Speaker 14: this House who rush to condemn, will call out one

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Speaker 14: actor or other, or who demand the government to do

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Speaker 14: the same, should pause to reflect on whether they are

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Speaker 14: seeking to understand and influence what's going on or simply

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Speaker 14: virtue signal about it.

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Speaker 17: Now, if you're wondering who he's talking about, it didn't

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Speaker 17: take too long for that mystery to be solved in

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Speaker 17: the House.

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Speaker 2: The Green Paddy condemns the United States unlawful and aggressive

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Speaker 2: strikes on Iran, and we call on the government to

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Speaker 2: do the same.

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Speaker 17: So with a topic like this, these two, as I said,

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Speaker 17: were always going to clash, and that's exactly what happened,

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Speaker 17: and it didn't take long for Winston to respond to

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Speaker 17: the way that Madame mc davison was speaking to him

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Speaker 17: in some of those questions.

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Speaker 14: But I have to say, when it comes to the

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Speaker 14: proxies for Iran that have committed so much terrorism in

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Speaker 14: the loss of thousands of lives, harmas his bela, the

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Speaker 14: hoodies with respect to Iran, when it comes to that,

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Speaker 14: the Greens have been not a syllable lot of sound,

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Speaker 14: not a lot of murmur, no continnation whatsoever.

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Speaker 17: And so the Green leadership didn't like that, so they

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Speaker 17: went back and forth, back and forth, back and forth,

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Speaker 17: before Jerry Browne had to step in.

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Speaker 14: Yes, the Iran's people have been under forty years of

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Speaker 14: deaths right on with Supena that what the track, It

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Speaker 14: takes five seconds to examine it.

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Speaker 16: Neither party here is well, that's speak sort of the

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Speaker 16: chorum that you'd expect out of past size. But you're

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Speaker 16: not going to both sides to standing orders speakers rolling.

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Speaker 7: This one fifty one.

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Speaker 17: So we have the government calling for a ceasefire between

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Speaker 17: Iran and Israel and Jerry Browne calling for a ceasefire

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Speaker 17: between the Greens and New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: First, has Chloe been throwing shade at Chris Luxon's travel agenda.

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Speaker 17: She has I have a listened to what she called

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Speaker 17: it this morning.

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Speaker 18: He him as presently offshore, swandering.

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Speaker 17: Around, swanning around. She reckons, this is the Prime Minister

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Speaker 17: who's at NATO at the moment. You know, if there

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Speaker 17: was a place to be on planet Earth right now,

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Speaker 17: I reckon, it would probably be NATO if you're a

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Speaker 17: global if you're a world leader. Before that, he was

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Speaker 17: with our biggest trading partners, China, meeting at President shi Jingping,

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Speaker 17: just swatting around old Chris lux In. Yeah, I've been

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Speaker 17: on dozens of these trips with the Prime ministers. They're

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Speaker 17: not sworn around. They've got quite a packed agenda. And

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Speaker 17: I'll tell you what. Nikola Willis wasn't having a bar

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Speaker 17: of her comments.

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Speaker 19: I think they're naive because it is absolutely essential for

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Speaker 19: New Zealanders that we are well represented on the world

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Speaker 19: stage and that involves person to person relationships with leaders.

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Speaker 17: Defense Minister Judith Collins wasn't impressed either.

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Speaker 2: Well, I thank the Lord.

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Speaker 20: I'm not responsible for the Greens and their utterances, but honestly,

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Speaker 20: the Prime Minister is absolutely flat out doing the same

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Speaker 20: sort of work at NATO and going to visit our

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Speaker 20: memorials there.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's what the Greens do when they're sees.

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Speaker 17: So no swaning around for these government ministers. Not today.

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Speaker 2: What was it that Chloe would rather he was doing?

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Speaker 17: I don't know, maybe meander, maybe strut. I don't know

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Speaker 17: which way that she thinks she should be walking.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I thank you very much, Jason, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Jason Wall's News newstalksb's political editor ten away from five,

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Speaker 2: putting the.

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Speaker 1: Tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast, the.

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Speaker 21: First all black squad for twenty five is our coach?

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Speaker 21: Scott Robertson is back with us? How much depth have

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Speaker 21: we got in this country? How big could a squad

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Speaker 21: be of people who are genuine all blacks?

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Speaker 22: So?

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Speaker 10: Do you need four deep at all backs in every

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Speaker 10: position over a four year period? Can you name your normal?

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Speaker 10: Can someone's going to get a band? So who's next

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Speaker 10: of us? Not them? Name the team? Then you name

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Speaker 10: the next one that's coming in. And then you're always doing.

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Speaker 10: Robson's going to tight Cartne and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 10: who's next to you? Still going all deep. So what's that?

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Speaker 10: You know? Four fifteens at six times. Yeah, there's sixty

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Speaker 10: one number College and.

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Speaker 21: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 21: a Vida News Talk zb.

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Speaker 12: Either.

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Speaker 2: If that lady is found not guilty of murder, there

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Speaker 2: will be a lot of people looking for mushrooms. I

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Speaker 2: love that.

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Speaker 12: I love that.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're Oh is that? How many people want

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Speaker 2: to kill some people that they know? They're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: she got away with it. Oh do you think that's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen?

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Speaker 1: Lord?

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Speaker 2: What a dim view of humanity? Stix away from five?

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Speaker 2: Now this is the gas thing. Okay. So the City

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Speaker 2: of Sydney Council, as you can imagine, Sydney's big place,

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Speaker 2: so there are lots of little councils in there. The

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Speaker 2: City of Sydney Council has banned gas appliances for all

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Speaker 2: new homes and businesses starting in January. How mental is

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Speaker 2: that you build yourself a new home, you build yourself

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Speaker 2: a new new business. You need a kitchen in there.

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Speaker 2: No gas stove, no gas oven, no gas heater, no

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Speaker 2: gas cooler. It's all got to be electricity. Whether you

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Speaker 2: like it or not. You still have your gas hot

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Speaker 2: water systems or thank god, how generous of them. But

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Speaker 2: the rest of it you're not allowed. And it's of

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Speaker 2: course because of the climate crisis, because you know, Sydney's

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Speaker 2: got to fix the climate crisis. As you well know.

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Speaker 2: This is the seventh New South Wales Council to do

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Speaker 2: to do this right, this is nuts and you know

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Speaker 2: it's not so because this happened today and on the

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Speaker 2: very day that it happened, Victoria did the opposite. Victoria

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Speaker 2: has already done this and they've changed their mind now

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Speaker 2: and they're not going to false homeowners. When a homeowner

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Speaker 2: has a broken down gas appliance, the rule had been

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Speaker 2: you've got to replace it with electricity. They now not

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Speaker 2: going to do that anymore. They realize that that doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: But Sydney is going to go ahead with it. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: you know, for one hot minute, just be grateful for

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Speaker 2: once you don't live in Australia because otherwise you'll be

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Speaker 2: dealing with that kind of stupid stuff. I've got enough

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Speaker 2: of that to deal with now. Can I just give

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Speaker 2: a shout out really quickly to our emergency services because

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Speaker 2: this is the police and the fire guys because you

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Speaker 2: don't know this until you have kids, but they are

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Speaker 2: wonderful to children. So the other day I was saying,

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Speaker 2: the three year old made us, keeps making our cycle

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Speaker 2: them down to the local news to look at the

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Speaker 2: fire is really into the fire trucks, so that's the

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Speaker 2: fun for their afternoon. Can we go down to the supermarket?

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Speaker 2: Look just they're looking at a burned out supermarket. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I said this on the radio, and then Chris from

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Speaker 2: mac Corral, who's there with the fire station, got in

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Speaker 2: touched and said, listen, do you want to bring him

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Speaker 2: up and we'll show him around, let him see what

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Speaker 2: a fire truck looks like up close. To say yes,

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna do that on Monday. So then yesterday

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Speaker 2: the father thought that the dude has had a bit

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Speaker 2: of a tough time of late. It has been a

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Speaker 2: bit on the naughty side, a bit of strictness coming

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Speaker 2: at him. So father thought maybe he needs a little treat,

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Speaker 2: so took him to the police station, which actually sounds

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Speaker 2: like he's in more trouble, but no, took him to

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Speaker 2: the police station because he loves policemen like he plays

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Speaker 2: every single day. He pretends he's a police officer. So

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Speaker 2: they went and they all they wanted to do was

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Speaker 2: just sit there in the offer, just you know, in

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Speaker 2: the front, but there with all the other criminals just

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Speaker 2: hanging around there, just wanting to see some police officers.

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Speaker 2: They go. The police officers came out, took the three

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Speaker 2: year old out to the police car, let him sit inside,

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Speaker 2: let him put the lights and sirens on, gave him

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Speaker 2: a little police car. He climbed into my bed this

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Speaker 2: morning and he said to me, Mama, did you know

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Speaker 2: I was in a police car yesterday? So I just

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Speaker 2: want you to know because on a show like this,

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Speaker 2: where we deal with often the bad news, we can

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Speaker 2: often dwell for a lot of the time on the

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Speaker 2: bad things that happen that involve the police or the

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Speaker 2: fire brigade or something like that. But in the ranks

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Speaker 2: of those big agencies are wonderful people who always wave

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Speaker 2: at kids or let them sit in the car and

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Speaker 2: press the lights and stuff. And it made a boy's

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Speaker 2: day yesterday. So thank you to the Fire Service and

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Speaker 2: the police for just being so awesome to kids. We're

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Speaker 2: going to do the ADHD next with the GP, just

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Speaker 2: find out if we're at risk of over prescribing. If

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Speaker 2: we're giving permission to GPS and nurse practitioners to do this,

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Speaker 2: news talks, that'd.

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Speaker 1: Be through the spins to find the real story. Soring.

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Speaker 1: It's hither two for clan drive with one New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: Be good afternoon. So there is confusion this afternoon over

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Speaker 2: whether we have a ceasefire between Israel and Iran or not.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump made the claim earlier that both countries had agreed,

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Speaker 2: but then Iran's foreign minister earlier said there was no agreement.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Miller is a geopolitical relations expert from Victoria University

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Speaker 2: with US. Now, Hey, Jeffrey, good evening here. So do

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Speaker 2: we have one or not?

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Speaker 9: I think we do now as of four o'clock New

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Speaker 9: Zealand time. It is all very very strange. I've been

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Speaker 9: following it all throughout the day and there have been

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Speaker 9: claims and counterclaims and you just can't work out exactly

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Speaker 9: what's going on. But apparently there's now according to Donald Trump,

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Speaker 9: you've got a twelve hour window so until four am

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Speaker 9: New Zealand time tomorrow, in which Israel will be allowed

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Speaker 9: to strike Iran. But Iran will not be able to

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Speaker 9: strike that and if that holds, then the cease file

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Speaker 9: will a full seas file will be in Plas from

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Speaker 9: four am tomorrow morning. It's all very strange. Why would

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Speaker 9: those be good and hopefully, hopefully we do have a

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Speaker 9: cease fire?

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Speaker 22: Now?

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Speaker 2: Finally, why would that? Why would those be the terms

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Speaker 2: that Israel can fire but not the other way?

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Speaker 9: Goodness no, goodness no. Is a very strange ceasefire, and

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Speaker 9: Israel still has not even officially announced or confirmed the

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Speaker 9: ceasefire is in place. It is very difficult to make

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Speaker 9: out what's going on. But look, let's take Donald Trumps

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Speaker 9: at his word and we can all watch and see

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Speaker 9: whether the ceasefire does hold.

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Speaker 2: Does this mean that Donald Trump's gamble in bombing those

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Speaker 2: three sites has paid off?

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Speaker 9: I don't think so. Look, I think this has been

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Speaker 9: madness over the last two weeks. I think it's been

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Speaker 9: incredibly foolish, and what we've seen from both Israel and

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Speaker 9: the United States, I think none of this is conducive

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Speaker 9: to Israel's future security, safety, prosperity. And I say that

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Speaker 9: as a strong supporter of Israel's right to exist and

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Speaker 9: right to prosper I just don't think you can get

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Speaker 9: here with a get there with a military solution. I

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Speaker 9: think this will only harden Around's desire to build a

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Speaker 9: nuclear weapon in the future. And if you think they're

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Speaker 9: really going to take this lying down and just give

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Speaker 9: up on their ambitions to have a nuclear weapon, I

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Speaker 9: think you've got another thing coming. You know, they've had

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Speaker 9: dozens of nuclear scientists now killed, They've had the top

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Speaker 9: military commands taken out, the top military leadership taken out,

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Speaker 9: hundreds of ordinary civilians apparently been killed, and many others

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Speaker 9: in Iran. So look, I don't know why you think

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Speaker 9: that this is going to make Israel sorry of make

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Speaker 9: Iran more amenable to Israel or the United States. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: What was the alternative?

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Speaker 9: The alternative was to continue with the negotiations. Look, Donald

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Speaker 9: Trump started with the negotiations himself, with Steve Whitcoff leading

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Speaker 9: five rounds of negotiations. There have been in musket that

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Speaker 9: went best six round and then Israel came over the

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Speaker 9: top and bombed I ran. Then last week on Friday,

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Speaker 9: the Iranian foreign minister was there with the European foreign

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Speaker 9: ministers in Geneva, and then the US came over the

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Speaker 9: top and bombed Iran And it was all just a

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Speaker 9: great one, the great deception, the idea that Donald Trump

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Speaker 9: was taking two weeks it was none of that. Behind

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Speaker 9: the scenes, he was scheming with Bena Minette and know

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Speaker 9: Who to join the war.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Jeffrey, I mean we can all see that one

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Speaker 2: side has behaved, you know, in an unbecoming fashion here.

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Speaker 2: But you would if if Iran had agreed to something,

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Speaker 2: would you really have believed them?

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Speaker 9: Well, I'll put it to you, why would Iran believe

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Speaker 9: anything that the US says? Now? After how the US.

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Speaker 2: Is I'm simply asking the question because it seems to

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Speaker 2: me that it doesn't matter which path you pick, they

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Speaker 2: end up with a nuke.

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Speaker 9: Look, let's stop the madness. Look we saw what happened

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Speaker 9: today with Iran's striking cuta one of the golf states.

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Speaker 9: It's just never happened before. We haven't had one of

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Speaker 9: the golf states targeted quite in this way by Iran,

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Speaker 9: and it's unprecedented. And these are countries, by the way,

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Speaker 9: the golf states that New Zeven gets on very well with.

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Speaker 9: They're our friends in many ways. And Christopher Luxon was

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Speaker 9: up there in the United Arab Emirates. In January we

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Speaker 9: signed two trade deals with the Gulf States. As I say,

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Speaker 9: this is all all. Manhattan is here and we absolutely

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Speaker 9: need to get back to peace and get back to dialogue, diplomacy,

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Speaker 9: d escalation, and I think New Zealand really can play

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Speaker 9: a small but important part in that, just given the

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Speaker 9: connections that New Zealand has into the Gulf region. And

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Speaker 9: we shouldn't forget the Katari Prime Minister Shank Muhammad Thani.

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Speaker 9: He played a key role in brokering this ceasefire. Apparently

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Speaker 9: he was in Wellington last August visiting in New Zealand.

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Speaker 9: So Christopher Luxon has probably got his phone number in

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Speaker 9: his phone. He should use that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I really appreciate your expertise, Jeffrey, Thanks so much,

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Miller, geopolitical relations expert.

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Speaker 1: Heather duplusy Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Look good news if you or someone in your life

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Speaker 2: has ADHD or you think they may have ADHD but

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Speaker 2: haven't been able to get diagnosed. From February next year,

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Speaker 2: GPS and in some cases nurses will be able to

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Speaker 2: diagnose and treat adults and children with ADHD. Until now,

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Speaker 2: only psychiatrists could do this, but the wait time to

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Speaker 2: get to one of them could have been as long

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Speaker 2: as a year in some cases. Darren Bill is the

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Speaker 2: chairpert of ADHD New Zealand with us. Hey Darren, Hi,

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Speaker 2: Hey Dan, I'm very well. Thank you. Are you confident

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Speaker 2: that GPS and nurse practitioners have the skill set to

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Speaker 2: be able to diagnose and treat?

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Speaker 1: Yes, we are.

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Speaker 23: And I might note though that both GPS and nurse

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Speaker 23: practitioners have to be trained and working with an area

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Speaker 23: of practice, which means that the GP is not interested,

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Speaker 23: for example, in ADHD, they won't be able to help.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that there's a danger of over diagnosis?

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Speaker 23: No, I don't think so. First of all, the underdiagnosis

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Speaker 23: in New Zealand is significant, we're half that of Australia.

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Speaker 23: And second of all, if you have the trained medical

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Speaker 23: professionals and they're working with guidelines, it should mean that

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Speaker 23: we have the correct level of diagnosis.

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Speaker 2: Do you worry because at the moment we already have

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Speaker 2: a bit of a crunch on ADHD medication if I mean,

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Speaker 2: it sounds terrible saying this, but if we start diagnosing

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Speaker 2: more and more people and handing out the medication, do

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Speaker 2: we not end up with more of a problem here.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, look, there is that possibility for that, but there's

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Speaker 23: sort of two counter arguments. Of the first is the

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Speaker 23: medication shortage, so hopefully that's going to be resolved in

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Speaker 23: the next six months. Nighting or so far make have

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Speaker 23: been amazing in their approach to our community of this.

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Speaker 23: And the second thing is, you know, when it comes

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Speaker 23: to first a fair, there's not going to be a

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Speaker 23: whole stack of trained GPS in nurse practitioners available. They

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Speaker 23: have to go through the training, they have to work

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Speaker 23: with the Royal Colleges to work that availability out and

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Speaker 23: capability and capacity is going to be key and it

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Speaker 23: might take one to two years to work through.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. Hey, thank you very much, Darren, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: That's Darren Bull, chairperson of ADHD New Zealand. Ever du Allen,

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Speaker 2: we now know who's Zolenskap will put a blazer on

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Speaker 2: for King Charles. So he met King Charles at Windsor

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Speaker 2: Castle for lunch. And what is remarkable about it is

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Speaker 2: that for the first time in whatever or just recently

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Speaker 2: or just a very long time, he turned up in

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Speaker 2: a black blazer, black trousers, but but still had I

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Speaker 2: have a look at it. You'll see what I mean,

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Speaker 2: has still has the combat look about it, doesn't it

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Speaker 2: Like you have never seen a jacket look more combati

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Speaker 2: than that, particularly, you know what I mean, you've never

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Speaker 2: seen a blazer somehow cross the line between being sort

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Speaker 2: of like, hey, I'm going to dinner with the king.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to lunch with the king. But if there's

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Speaker 2: some shooting, this suddenly turns into a combat jacket. It

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Speaker 2: has that vibe about it. And also he rocked up

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Speaker 2: with the combat bots just in case the war finds him.

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Speaker 2: Why would he break brand? Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Just to remind us, Megger turned up though in a

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Speaker 2: jacket fourteen past. Hey, if you haven't yet bought that

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Speaker 2: BYD but you want to, you need to get a

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Speaker 2: BYD BYD BYD. Field Day's five thousand dollars, your way

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Speaker 2: is only gonna last for the month the June. Right,

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Speaker 2: there's only a few more days left. Now, what house

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Speaker 2: works is if you purchase yourself a new BYD the Dolphin,

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Speaker 2: the Atto three, the Seal, the Sea Lion six, the

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Speaker 2: Sea Lion seven, or my personal favorite, the ute the

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Speaker 2: Shark Sacks. If you do that in the last few

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Speaker 2: You still get all the warranty in, the roadside assistance

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Speaker 2: the Shark six. They've got some more coming in, but

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Speaker 2: getting quick because even that's not going to last. And

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Speaker 2: this is a cool ute. By the way, a customer reported,

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Speaker 2: you would have heard me saying this the other day

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Speaker 2: per one hundred ks. Total fuel cost four hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty dollars. What other car can do that? And for

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Speaker 2: every vehicle sold in June, BYD will donate one hundred

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Speaker 2: check it out and get your wriggle on BYD Auto

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Speaker 2: dot Co, dot nz ever do for c Ellens hehether,

871
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: there's no guarantee of a correct diagnosis for ADHD, whether

872
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: it's from a specialist or a GP. Because my son

873
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: was misdiagnosed by a specialist and he was put on medication,

874
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 2: he was bouncing off the wall. So fair point, Jude,

875
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 2: thank you for that. It's coming up nineteen past five.

876
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 2: Now Wellington City Council's done it again, spending the big dollars.

877
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: They have bought themselves a new toilet block on Taranaki

878
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Street just outside the Les Mills there two point three

879
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: million dollars. Diane Calvert is a Wellington City councilor and

880
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: with me now high Diane high, Heather, Diane, two point

881
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: three million dollars can build you a really nice two

882
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: story house with some car parking and you know, maybe

883
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: six toilets inside it. So why how can you guys

884
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: justify this?

885
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 24: Oh look, I don't know, Heather. I mean it's a

886
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Speaker 24: bit like half five hundred and sixty three k bi

887
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 24: crack and spending one hundred one point four million dollars

888
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 24: to move a bus stop one hundred meters. So I mean,

889
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 24: this is the culture in the in the organization. It

890
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 24: just has to change. I mean, toilets are really important,

891
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 24: you know in our CBD, and there's no doubt about that.

892
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,959
Speaker 24: But did we need to take three years building them

893
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 24: and you know, over two million dollars US and then

894
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 24: light them up like a glowing monument? I'm not convinced.

895
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, whose idea was the light show on the outside

896
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Speaker 2: of the tut.

897
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 24: I have no idea, but you know, I think I'm

898
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Speaker 24: going to light something up. We could pick something better

899
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Speaker 24: than toilets signed. Look, I don't mean that's this will

900
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 24: be an operational matter. And so look, you know, from

901
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 24: you know, from an elected member perspective, we obviously wanted

902
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 24: to see toilets there. We were obviously concerned in the

903
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 24: amount of time it took to put the to you know,

904
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Speaker 24: to put replacement toilets in. And remember we're building brand

905
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 24: new tourlets also around the corner, in in our new

906
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 24: town hall and our new library.

907
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: You don't know who signed off on this.

908
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 24: Look, it will be it will be somebody on our

909
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 24: executive team, but I don't know exactly.

910
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: Who James is.

911
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 24: This chief operating officer could well be. But but yeah, look,

912
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 24: I just don't know.

913
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: Because Isn't this the problem with what is going on

914
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: in a place like Wellington is just some unelected guy

915
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: somewhere is going yep, two point three, absolutely fine, and

916
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: no one can hold anyone accountable. That's the problem, isn't it.

917
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 24: Well, look at it should be the elected members that

918
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 24: should be holding the council. I mean that the officers

919
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 24: to account for something like this. I mean obviously we've

920
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 24: just become aware of the custom and that and look,

921
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 24: there will be questions as just like the five hundred

922
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 24: and sixty three k bikrack, which we're still trying to understand,

923
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 24: still trying to get a report out about what went wrong. Yeah,

924
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 24: but I'm hoping with a new chief executive, we're going

925
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 24: to see a change in culture.

926
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Speaker 2: I appreciate your time, Diane, very very much. Diane Calvert,

927
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: Wellington City Council. Listen, we've got to talk about councils,

928
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: to talk about right caps next, and then I'm going

929
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: to talk to the huddle just to try to understand

930
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: how this kind of thing happens, something where the council

931
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: so goes yep, we need to do that thing, and

932
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: then somebody else runs the budget and it just gets

933
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: ridiculous because we've got to figure out this stuff, don't

934
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: we that that seems to be the number of the

935
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Speaker 2: problem five twenty.

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Speaker 1: Two informed Inside into Today's issues. It's hither duplicy elan

937
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

938
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Speaker 2: News talk said been Hey, the christ you city councilor

939
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: who who seems reasonably open to the idea of changing

940
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Speaker 2: the name of Roliston av is going to be with

941
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Speaker 2: us after the half past. It's twenty four past right now. Now, look,

942
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Speaker 2: I can see that this idea of forcing rate caps

943
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: on councils is taking off. So can I just express

944
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: my concerns about this early on? I personally love the

945
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: idea of stopping counsels from continually jacking up what they

946
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: charge us, but I worry that this is not going

947
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: to fix the problem the situation, because it's not the

948
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: actual problem, is it. The actual problem is that counsels

949
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: spend our money on stupid stuff. Allah the light up

950
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: toilets in Wellington, even when they've got no money. Allah, Wellington,

951
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: it's got no money, but they keep on doing this stuff.

952
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: So even if you stop them having much money because

953
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: you put on a rate cap, they will continue to

954
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: spend the money on the wrong things. Alah, Wellington. So

955
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: what will then happen if you put the rate cap

956
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: on is that after years and years and years and

957
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: years of deferred capital expenditure, the pipes will break down

958
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: because Wellington hasn't spent money on them, and the roads

959
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: will be in disrepair because Wellington hasn't spent money on them,

960
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 2: and the buildings will need earthquake upgrades because Wellington hasn't

961
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: spent money on them. And then they will say, oh,

962
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: look at all the trouble we've got, we need more money,

963
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: And then some government run by somebody like Grant Robertson

964
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: will go, yeah, cool, we'll lift the rate cap and

965
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: they'll just make up for lost ground and go hell

966
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: for leather and jacket up. Or what they'll do is

967
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: for years and years and years and years, they will

968
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: just run everything on the credit card. And then they'll say, oh,

969
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: look it's a debt crisis. Oh we've got to pay

970
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: back our debt. We need more money, and some government

971
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: run by somebody like Grant Robertson will go, oh, yeah,

972
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: that's cool, let's lift the the rate cap, and then

973
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: off they go, and they'll they'll just make up for

974
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: lost ground, see what I mean. It'll make you feel

975
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: good about it in the short term, but they will

976
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: get you eventually because the problem is that they aren't

977
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: spending money properly, and that is actually what we need

978
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 2: to fix here now. I don't know how I think

979
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: getting rid of some of our councils, by canning the

980
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: regional councils, or canning the district councils, or canning the

981
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: local the city councils, I don't know. Getting rid of

982
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: some council somewhere may help to limit the costs, but

983
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Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure even of that. Ultimately, I think

984
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: we just need smarter people on council and we need

985
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: to hold their feet to the fire. But as long

986
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: as you have numpties and council officials who are who

987
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: are shady and you're not watching them, a rate cap

988
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: will only delay the problem.

989
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Speaker 1: Heather Doopers.

990
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Speaker 2: The al councils need those lords, don't they though?

991
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 5: Jeez.

992
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you'd start with Wellington City Council A just

993
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: to make it, because you just know that's the low

994
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 2: hanging fruit. You just start there anyway. Later, Stumping from

995
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: TikTok fridge cigarettes. So because the young kids at the

996
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: moment don't smoke cigarettes like we used to when we

997
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: were young and dumb, what they're doing is that they're

998
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: having fridge cigarettes. And a fridge cigarette is basically what

999
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: they're calling a crisp can of diet coke, which has

1000
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: come straight out of the fridge. There's this has come

1001
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: about from some sort of a techtok video. It's got

1002
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: three and a half million views where someone says, the

1003
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: woman says, overheard someone called diet coca fridge cigarette and

1004
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: there's nothing been more true to me since. And the

1005
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: caption was time for a crispy city in the summer.

1006
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: So I'm telling you this because in equal parts TikTok

1007
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: is stupid but also around you and you need to

1008
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 2: know what the kids are talking about. So you are

1009
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: welcome headlines.

1010
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: Next on the iHeart app and in your car on

1011
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: your drive home, it's hither duplicy Ellen drive with one

1012
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: New Zealand let's get connected news talk. Sa'd be.

1013
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: Every right here from government about bringing unelected, unaccountable regional

1014
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: and local council job for life bureaucrats to heal long

1015
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: overdue bring it on asap. Well, Howard, if you feel

1016
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: like that you are going to find it. You've got

1017
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: high mind with Jordan Williams, who basically the guy who

1018
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: started the rate caps campaign, and he's going to be

1019
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: with us shortly on the huddle our standing by after six,

1020
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you about a fantastic, fantastic good

1021
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Speaker 2: news story business KII business doing incredibly well. And before

1022
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Speaker 2: we get there we might have busted a minister just

1023
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 2: telling a bit of it, a bit of a woo porky,

1024
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: so we'll just deal with that before six A, just

1025
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 2: just to casually just expose a bit of a porky

1026
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Speaker 2: there before six stand by, it's twenty four away from.

1027
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Speaker 1: Six, Heather Dupless hours.

1028
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Speaker 2: As I told you at the start of the show,

1029
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Speaker 2: a group of Hagley College students want to rename Rolliston

1030
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: ad in christ Church and they want to do this

1031
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: because the man that the road is named for, William Rolston,

1032
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: was a central figure leading to the devastating invasion of

1033
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Speaker 2: Paddi Hukkah in Tartannuki in eighteen eighty one. Tyler Harrison

1034
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: Hunt is a christ Church counselor for the Rickerton Wardhay Tyler,

1035
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: Hey here, how are you? And well, thank you? Do

1036
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: you agree with him? You need a name change?

1037
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a position one that Actually the

1038
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 3: thing that I was actually most proud of was seeing

1039
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 3: and come to the table, be brave and talk in

1040
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: front of seventeen elected members about something they were passionate about.

1041
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think do you think it's I can't

1042
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: see it floating with christ Church Council. What do you think.

1043
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: I think it's worth the conversation. That's the first step,

1044
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: you know. Anything outside of that, we can't do anything

1045
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 3: drastic obviously, and christ has got its own identity and

1046
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: it's currently ever changing. So it's something that I really appreciated.

1047
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: Then coming to the table with perpecually was something that

1048
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: was so passionate about. Around the statues more than the

1049
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: road names.

1050
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 2: How many studies we got.

1051
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: We've got quite a few actually, Captain Cook, Captain James

1052
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: Cook's around there, Fitzgerald, Willie, Roliston's and Rolinson the air,

1053
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: so there's quite a few hanging around and that adds

1054
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Speaker 3: to the colonial heritage of christ Church. And after the

1055
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Speaker 3: earthquakes we actually did lose a lot of that, so

1056
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Speaker 3: i'd expect that the conversations would be a contentious one,

1057
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 3: but also something that's actually really healthy to talk about.

1058
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: The fact that they have have learned the history, I

1059
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 2: think is more probably actually proof of why we to

1060
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: leave the name there, because if it wasn't that the

1061
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 2: name was there, eyed out very much, that they would

1062
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: would have connected the dots and realized house. You know

1063
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: it kind of it makes you think about what the

1064
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: sky has done and learn about what the sky has done.

1065
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1066
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too, And I played devil was

1067
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 3: dvocate and asking that exact question, and their answer back

1068
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 3: to me was that while we acknowledged that the street

1069
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 3: names and statues were named after these people, they weren't

1070
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: wanting them to be seen as being celebrated for the

1071
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 3: things that they did. Particularly they were talking about Rolliston

1072
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 3: and Wakefield, of which a lot of Wellington and Nelson

1073
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: is named after with the New Zealand Company. And for myself,

1074
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: I descend from three tribes and Taranaki and Taranaki Tiatia

1075
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 3: was one of them. My family were from White Tutter,

1076
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: so that's a really close piece for me. And being

1077
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: the only Maldi in council, obviously I had to question

1078
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 3: them and see where they are.

1079
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: Tyler, listen, it's good to talk to you. I really

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00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Tyler Harrison Hunt, councilor for the ricketson Ward

1081
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: and christ Church.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Reales Find You.

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Speaker 2: Or one of a guide as coming up twenty one

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Speaker 2: away from six and on the huddle we have Ali

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Speaker 2: Jones read pr and christ Church local board member and

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Speaker 2: Jordan Williams of the Taxpayers Union. Hell are you too, Hi,

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Ali? Do you want to change it?

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Speaker 18: Nope?

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Speaker 24: No, no, no.

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Speaker 18: Tyler Welle does a good job. Lovely guy. Actually, But

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Speaker 18: you know what frustrates me about this is that they

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Speaker 18: use those words like you know, Tyler said that the

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Speaker 18: kids mentioned about celebrating people. I don't think we're celebrating

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Speaker 18: someone by putting their name on a street sign. We

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Speaker 18: are acknowledging them, we are noting them. They are part

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Speaker 18: of the history. And the other point too, is that

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Speaker 18: I understand that Rolliston didn't actually lead the attack on Pattihucker.

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Speaker 18: Yes he was part of the conversation leading up to it,

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Speaker 18: but someone else actually led that. Do we erase the history?

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Speaker 18: I mean He also set up the death Small Vanish

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Speaker 18: College out in Sumner here in christ Church. He was

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Speaker 18: also a key supporter of women's suffrage.

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Speaker 24: So what do we do here?

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Speaker 18: Do we throw the baby out with the bath water?

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Speaker 18: Or do we teach people New z On history in context?

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Speaker 6: And we're all the there for us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know about you, Jordan, but I

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Speaker 2: find often that history. I find I enjoy learning about

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Speaker 2: our history and then connected and going, oh, this is

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Speaker 2: a chap called Jenningham Wakefield. Oh that's why it's point Jenningham,

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Speaker 2: you know. And so actually those landmarks do help you

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Speaker 2: to learn it and realize the significance of these people,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 22: I mean history is actually can be quite dark, like

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Speaker 22: I mean, you know, and it's just a slippery So

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Speaker 22: I found at the Free Speech Union seven years ago

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00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 22: to fight against people, you know, that are alive being canceled.

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Speaker 22: Now it seems that the woke have now turned on

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Speaker 22: that if you did, you can be canceled.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 22: We've got to get rid of this name, the cock Islands.

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Speaker 22: It's just it's so offensive Churchill Lane. But the worst

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Speaker 22: is down near Stuart Island, the Pit Islands. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 22: that is just I think the younger, it's true, cancel them.

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Speaker 2: What great did he introduce it?

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Speaker 3: I was very low, it was very low.

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Speaker 22: But the thing is that the taxes they grow like

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Speaker 22: poison ivy.

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Speaker 2: Was it like ten percent back in the day or

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Speaker 2: something like that. I mean, if you said to them,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you said, we.

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Speaker 22: Need to the history of taxation New Zealand was written

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Speaker 22: not by me, that was Paul Goldsmoth. You're getting confused, Yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: I mean I know that you'll just you just know everything.

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Speaker 2: But if you said at the time, don't let the

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Speaker 2: younger do this children, because he'll start a ten percent,

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Speaker 2: but it's the thin of the wedge and before you

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Speaker 2: know it, you're paying thirty nine percent, that's ridict.

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Speaker 22: I don't engage with it because I find it so

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Speaker 22: so emotionally distressful, and that's why we need to change.

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Speaker 2: The triggering triggering.

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Speaker 18: There is one other thing. Can I just raise it

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00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 18: to where do we draw the line?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 18: We've got Rollston Township. Rolliston's growing is one of the

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Speaker 18: biggest fastest growing areas just outside christ We've got Rolliston College.

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Speaker 18: I know people called Rolliston, what will they change the

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Speaker 18: names as well?

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Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous, Yeah, totally. I mean, there is a

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Speaker 2: William Roliston, isn't it wasn't he in the Federated Farmers.

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Speaker 18: Well, there's a Humphrey Rolliston who's well known in christ Church.

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Speaker 18: So it's christ Church name and it's still a name.

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Speaker 2: William will have to change the thing all together. Now, Jordan,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about this adh move? ADHD move

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Speaker 2: A good move?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 22: I mean, I'm I'm not libertarian on too much, but

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Speaker 22: HM on this, I take the sort of the Economist

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Speaker 22: magazine view that that you know that the more the

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Speaker 22: MA area, I'd say that the performance enhancing mental drugs

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Speaker 22: that are used widely in campuses in North America, I

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Speaker 22: don't have the same moral objection to as a lot

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Speaker 22: of people, but I know, I'm not My views aren't

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Speaker 22: very mainstream. But the Economist just says like that, Are.

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Speaker 2: You saying it's it's cool to do your exams on Rittlin?

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Speaker 3: No, I think it's cool.

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Speaker 22: I just think that it's south so widely done. I

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Speaker 22: was astounded.

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Speaker 1: This is obviously as.

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Speaker 2: The playing field. If everybody is doing it, then you

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Speaker 2: may as well let the rest of them do it.

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Speaker 22: As well, you're not. My young guys in Auckland say

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Speaker 22: it's very common at the University of Auckland anyway. But

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Speaker 22: I was astounded when I did at university exchange to Germany,

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Speaker 22: as I say, many many years ago, the extent to

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Speaker 22: which performance enhancing drugs were used by students to sort

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Speaker 22: of stay awake and cram.

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Speaker 9: And just.

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Speaker 22: From the Ivy League schools in the US, I didn't

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Speaker 22: know the extent to which it's done. I should ask

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Speaker 22: my young chaps in Wellington, but that I just don't

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Speaker 22: have the same moral issues with ADHD drugs being slightly.

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Speaker 1: More widely available.

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Speaker 22: I know that this over diagnosis, and I agree with

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Speaker 22: all of that, but I just don't. As I say,

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Speaker 22: but there's not a certainly not textosion issue, and I

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Speaker 22: know that it's not a of you widely held Allie.

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Speaker 2: I can't decide if we're overdiagnosing or underdiagnosing. I just

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Speaker 2: don't think we don't.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, and look, it's really interesting and I support this

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Speaker 18: move one hundred percent. I've changed my mind on it.

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Speaker 18: I think seeing the difference that it made for someone's

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Speaker 18: daughter with ADHD recently to be diagnosed and then beyond

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Speaker 18: the right medication. It was absolutely life changing for her,

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Speaker 18: but it was going to cost well, actually it did

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Speaker 18: cost her eighteen hundred bucks to see a specialist and

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Speaker 18: she had to wait and that was privately, So the

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Speaker 18: barriers are really heartbreaking. What I'm concerned about here is

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Speaker 18: that it's all very well for the government to be

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Speaker 18: making these changes, but we need to have the support

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Speaker 18: for the GPS and the nurse magnetitioners the training we needed,

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Speaker 18: counseling and support for those who are diagnosed. Otherwise it's

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Speaker 18: just virtual signaling. I think it's great that this is

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Speaker 18: going to be available two more people, but they need

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Speaker 18: some support to be supports around it as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, guys, we'll take a break. Come back to

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Speaker 2: you just in just attack. It's the Huddle sixteen away

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Speaker 2: from Sex.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty achieve extraordinary

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Speaker 1: results with unparalleled reach.

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Speaker 2: Back with the Huddle. Jordan Williams of the Taxpas Union,

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Speaker 2: Allie Jones, Jordan rates Caps tell me.

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Speaker 22: Why, Like here, I know you're captured by big count

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Speaker 22: and don't want don't.

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Speaker 2: Want rate the cat spending.

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Speaker 22: Hey, yeah, the thing is the spending was going to

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Speaker 22: core infrastructure. If it was going for where the Polly's

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Speaker 22: and the officials calime, you know, we look at the

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Speaker 22: pipes the first thing. We desperately need more money to

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Speaker 22: fix them.

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Speaker 7: But whenever we've.

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Speaker 22: Done this, from an analysis on this over time, a

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00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 22: greater and greater proportion is going on operating expenditure, not

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Speaker 22: capital expenditure. It's going on empire buildings and staff. And

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Speaker 22: I'm sorry, when you can't be trusted with money, you

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Speaker 22: don't keep giving the agreement.

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Speaker 2: But tell me I'm wrong, Jordan, tell me I'm wrong,

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Speaker 2: because I what I predict would happen is that they

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Speaker 2: will just run it up on the credit card. You'll

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Speaker 2: cap how much money they've got. They'll just keep on spending,

1231
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Speaker 2: run it up on debt. They will still spend on

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Speaker 2: the wrong things. They will scrimp on the capital expenditure,

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Speaker 2: and before you know it, you've got a crisis like

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Speaker 2: they've got on Wellington with the pipes. And then somebody

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Speaker 2: like Rant Robertson goes it's okay, just you know, go hard, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Turn me out.

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Speaker 22: It's take Water Act because it's thanks to the excellent

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Speaker 22: work the tax Baser Union did before the election and

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Speaker 22: the National Party adopting the I mean the government squeezes

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Speaker 22: from the size around the power of general competence and

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Speaker 22: what local government can do. You got to squeeze it

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Speaker 22: from the top and bottom two and that is around this.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 22: And it's not unreasonable. It is limiting rates to inflation,

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Speaker 22: except for if you convince people in a local referenda.

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Speaker 22: That's what the policy we're calling for happens in in

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Speaker 22: part in Australia, it happens in the UK. Well, we

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Speaker 22: can they do it in Australia in the UK. Can't

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00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 22: when you can do it in Australia in the UK?

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Speaker 24: Okay, different countries money because random would cost an absolute fortune.

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Speaker 22: Oh not so very chuck. Fifteen percent was the average

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Speaker 22: rate to increase last year. No household is spending year

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Speaker 22: after year fifteen percentage.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're putting up with.

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Speaker 18: I'm not disagreeing with you, Jordan, but you cannot run

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Speaker 18: things like this on a committee, which is what a

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Speaker 18: referendum system does.

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Speaker 5: Well, you totally.

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Speaker 18: Agree, hang on, I totally squeeze the want no no,

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Speaker 18: no no.

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Speaker 12: I agree with what.

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Speaker 18: You said earlier, Heather, which was you've got to put

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Speaker 18: people around that council table who have got the nouse

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Speaker 18: to be able to do the job. And the other

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Speaker 18: thing is it's not city how it's not the staff

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Speaker 18: that are their nets are on the line here or

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Speaker 18: the accountability is there with them, it's the chief executive.

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Speaker 18: The chief executive is the only person that is answerable

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Speaker 18: to the counselors. Now, if the delegations of such the

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Speaker 18: people are signing stuff off that they shouldn't be, that

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Speaker 18: it's far too high, then they have to change that. No,

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Speaker 18: you have got to allow people to do the job

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Speaker 18: that they are there to do. But if they can't

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Speaker 18: do it, there has to be oversight and that's where

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Speaker 18: the chief executive comes in.

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Speaker 22: Look at a story that the Text pay Union exposed today.

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Speaker 22: There's two point three million dollar disco duney in Wellington

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Speaker 22: of of some public lows two point three minion with

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Speaker 22: all the flashing lights and stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, killing avant problem.

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Speaker 5: But it's not like for irrelevant.

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Speaker 22: Undred and two point three million dollar public laboratories.

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Speaker 1: Then Ali that is that is that is you cannot say.

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Speaker 22: That that is not representative of the local council and

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Speaker 22: your solution to fix the Wellington pipes is to give

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Speaker 22: them more money. It is not a revenue issue. It

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Speaker 22: is the quality of decision making and quality of spending.

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Speaker 5: I got a.

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Speaker 22: Squeezegree with decisions.

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Speaker 18: I don't disagree with you that it's an issue. And

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Speaker 18: two point three million is a ridiculous amount of money

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Speaker 18: to pay for toilets. In fact, I rang round because

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Speaker 18: that's what I do, and I found that you can

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Speaker 18: get a triple toilet built for one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 18: five K. You have to add plan into that, it

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Speaker 18: has to rate it.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 18: But the point is that I don't think. I think

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Speaker 18: procurement policies have to be looked at. The Boston has

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Speaker 18: to be looked at, and there is no doubt that

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Speaker 18: this costs more than should have because it took three

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Speaker 18: years to do so. There are a whole lot of

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Speaker 18: issues here that need to be looked at as to

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Speaker 18: how this even came to two point three million. I

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Speaker 18: think the lights of right more lights only if they're

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Speaker 18: not going to add a massive amount.

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Speaker 22: In the district. Dunning, because this is this book.

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Speaker 5: Cubicles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm it's wonderful to talk to you, and I

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Speaker 2: really appreciate the fact that you're both the experts on

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Speaker 2: those particular subjects, so thanks so much being obviously counsels

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Speaker 2: not toilets. Allie Jones, Jordan Williams a huddle this evening

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Speaker 2: nine away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio powered by News Talk ZEBBI.

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Speaker 2: Hither in the words of Warren Buffett, if you don't

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Speaker 2: understand accounting, you don't understand business and councils or businesses

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Speaker 2: where representatives have a higher accountability as it's not their

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Speaker 2: money that they're managing. Fairpoint, fairpoint. I realize that I

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Speaker 2: am unsatisfactory in this argument because I say this is

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Speaker 2: not the solution. The solution is to get people who

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Speaker 2: are not numpties around the council table. But I can't

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Speaker 2: tell you how we do that, so I don't know. Now.

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Speaker 2: Scott Simpson, do you remember that thing where the gal

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Speaker 2: A government is changing the law to protect the banks

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Speaker 2: ASB and A and Z the Australian banks from US.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that where they changing the law because

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Speaker 2: they don't want to they feel bad for A and

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Speaker 2: Z and ASB having to pay fines to their customers

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Speaker 2: who are taking a court case against them because maybe

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Speaker 2: they have to pay fines to their customers. Do you

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Speaker 2: remember that. Well, Scott Simpson was on the show back

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Speaker 2: in May and we asked him about it and he said, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's just the government saw that there was a problem

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Speaker 2: and they were fixing it. They weren't siding with the banks.

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Speaker 25: I've met with the Bankers Association and they aren't calling

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Speaker 25: for it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come off, at why would you people be

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Speaker 2: making this change if it wasn't for the fact that

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Speaker 2: the banks wanted it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's well you might think that here though, hm.

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Speaker 2: Well look, in a shock twist, the banks were asking

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Speaker 2: for it. Look, I know none of us saw this coming.

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Speaker 2: Janetibschraney has done at the Herald, has done a LITTLEAA request,

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Speaker 2: little information at request and found some correspondents and what

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Speaker 2: a surprise, the banks did ask for it. In June

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Speaker 2: last year, the New Zealand Banking Association wrote to the

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Speaker 2: Consumer and Commas and Consumer Minister to raise concerns and

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Speaker 2: the association asked the then Minister Andrew Bailey to enable

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Speaker 2: the court to impose proportionate penalties for breaches as the

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Speaker 2: okay blah blah blah blah blah blah, asked for it.

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Speaker 2: I rest should we just listen again to what our

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Speaker 2: mate Scott said.

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Speaker 26: I've met with the Bankers Association and they aren't calling

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Speaker 26: for it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come off at why would you people be

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Speaker 2: making this change if it wasn't for the fact that

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Speaker 2: the banks wanted it.

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Speaker 17: Well, well you might think that here though, and I do.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, never mind, we'll talk to him about it next

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Speaker 2: time he's on Hey, very very quickly before we go

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Speaker 2: after six, We're going to talk to this business that's

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Speaker 2: just going gangbusters in the States. There's a piece in

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Speaker 2: the ABC today it is apparently rude to call someone

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Speaker 2: out of the blue, and I want to know what

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Speaker 2: you think, but I also just want you to want

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Speaker 2: to warn you. They've got Anna Mussen, who's an etiquette

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Speaker 2: expert from Adelaide. She says, calling someone out of the

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Speaker 2: blue like just dialing, being like I'm going to call

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Speaker 2: Jack today, that is the modern day equivalent of drop

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Speaker 2: in on someone unannounced. Doctor Naomi Smith a digital sociologist

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Speaker 2: at the University of the Sunshine Coast. She says she's

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Speaker 2: often struck by horror when her phone rings unexpectedly she says,

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Speaker 2: it feels very pressing the demand of a phone call.

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Speaker 2: You have to deal with it right then and there

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Speaker 2: and give it your attention in the moment, in the

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Speaker 2: same way you would if someone popped over unannounced. I know,

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Speaker 2: I'm look you and I of I mean, come on, pet,

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Speaker 2: please tell me you're with me on this. It's not

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Speaker 2: the same as it you can if someone calls you unexpectedly,

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Speaker 2: you just don't answer it. You just don't answer it,

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Speaker 2: don't you Who else gets stressed out like Naomi and

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Speaker 2: Anna Lord? Let me know nine two nine two. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm just so rude and I don't even know it.

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Speaker 2: News Talks, the'd be.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I gets in with my We're business meets Inside.

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Speaker 1: There is this hour with Heather Duplessy, Allen and Mares

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Speaker 1: Insurance and investments, Grow your wealth, Protect your future. Newstalkst B.

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Speaker 2: Even coming up in the next hour, Brad Olson's going

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Speaker 2: to talk us through the oil price. Paul Bloxham of

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Speaker 2: HSBC will talk us through a comparison he's made of

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Speaker 2: the Ossie and Kiwi economies and end of Brady of course,

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Speaker 2: out of the UK. It's seven past six now. If

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Speaker 2: you haven't heard of the company Halter. Remember that name,

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Speaker 2: because this could be our next key, big Keiwi invention

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Speaker 2: that's going to go bank gangbusters. The company just raised

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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty five million dollars in a funding round.

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Speaker 2: Halter is now valued at a billion US dollars, so

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Speaker 2: that's one point sixty five billion New Zealand dollars. They

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Speaker 2: managed to secure backing from tech investment company Bond, which

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Speaker 2: also backed the likes of Airbnb, Facebook, and Spotify. And

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Speaker 2: Craig Pigot is the founder and CEO of Holter and

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Speaker 2: with us.

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Speaker 25: Now, Hey Craig, good evening, Thanks having me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for coming in. Now, just explain to me

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Speaker 2: what you guys do as you put a little like

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Speaker 2: thing around the neck of the cow and basically create

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Speaker 2: an electronic fence where a fence doesn't exist.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, we're system for a pasture based farm. So I

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Speaker 25: think dariul bee farmers on grouse with a collar for

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Speaker 25: a cow, an app on a farmer's phone and that

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Speaker 25: collar transcals to response to queue so we can fence

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Speaker 25: and shift them house farmers run a more productive and

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Speaker 25: sustainable farm.

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Speaker 2: Does this farmer not have to go out of mustard

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Speaker 2: then they could just basically shift them with the collars.

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Speaker 25: Yes, they can do it all through through halter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but how does the cow know which direction to

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Speaker 2: go in?

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Speaker 25: Yes, so the cow listens to the collar. It has

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Speaker 25: like primary queues, which is sound of abration, and so

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Speaker 25: the cow kind of learns to respond to the sound

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Speaker 25: of the collar instead of visually seeing the fences that

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Speaker 25: exist today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can you so it will know where the fence

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Speaker 2: is right, so it'll know I can't go there because

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Speaker 2: the fence is there. Yes, but when you want to

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Speaker 2: shift them, so you've created a little electronic paddock. Now

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Speaker 2: you want to shift them to another electronic paddock. Can

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Speaker 2: you get them to move down the hill?

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Speaker 25: It's actually like the same way we tell a cow

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Speaker 25: or guide a cow if they interact with the fence.

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Speaker 25: So if they come into a fence and we give

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Speaker 25: them feedback on left and right, and it's the same

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Speaker 25: way if we're we're shifting a cow. And that's also

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Speaker 25: where we use a vibration vibration queue to help reinforce

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Speaker 25: the right way and which way they should be walking.

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Speaker 2: So so if they're walking in the right direction, they

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Speaker 2: will know because if they're walking in the wrong direction,

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Speaker 2: the collar will tell them yes, yeah, Well, so why

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Speaker 2: is this taking off? Because it's I mean, obviously it's

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Speaker 2: going to make the job a hell of a lot easier,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. And you're not going to have that infrastructure

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Speaker 2: costs of fencing.

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Speaker 25: I think the farming is I think just such a

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Speaker 25: critical role to a like New Zealand's economy, but also

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Speaker 25: around the world. And so when you can build a

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Speaker 25: product which helps farmers like at the heart of what

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Speaker 25: they do, which is trying to lift the productivity of

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Speaker 25: their land, then you know, those are important jobs to

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Speaker 25: focus on for farmers. And so my background and I

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Speaker 25: grew up farming, and I think that's why we you know,

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Speaker 25: that was kind of our I guess initial idea was like,

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Speaker 25: we need to focus on productivity and kind of the

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Speaker 25: key parts of how you run a farm, and and

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Speaker 25: that's what the products become today.

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Speaker 2: So does this make does this free up time? Yes, yep,

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Speaker 2: it does.

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Speaker 25: It automates a bunch of you don't have to put

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Speaker 25: up fences a shift cow, so you save some on that,

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Speaker 25: but then it also enables you to be slightly more precise,

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Speaker 25: so you can therefore lift the productivity of your pasture

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Speaker 25: in your land.

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Speaker 2: Do you have set up costs? Because I haven't read

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Speaker 2: the article, it seems that you have some sort of

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Speaker 2: like you have some sort of transmission that you require, right,

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Speaker 2: So is that quite a big investment?

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Speaker 25: It's actually it used to be once upon a time.

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Speaker 25: But these days we do put towers up on farms,

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Speaker 25: but they come in a cardboard box. Farmers clip them

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Speaker 25: together like really lego. And I think the record to

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Speaker 25: put up a tower is like twenty minutes or fifteen

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Speaker 25: minutes or something.

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Speaker 2: Stop it. And how much are they worth?

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Speaker 25: The towers they come as part of like and we

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Speaker 25: do like we map the farm and we give the

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Speaker 25: farmer maybe three or four towers, and so they pay

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Speaker 25: one off kind of installation fee depends on the size

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Speaker 25: of the farm and where they are and things of that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you have got currently in your fences quarter

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Speaker 2: of a million cows. How many cows they're in the world.

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Speaker 25: We crossed the two hundred and fifty thousand cow milestone

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Speaker 25: I think towards the end of last year, and obviously

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Speaker 25: been growing kind of since then. The world is about

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Speaker 25: three hundred and fifty million, so lush best scales, no end.

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Speaker 2: Of expansionary opportunities here for you.

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Speaker 25: Agriculture is obviously like a massive industry, and so yeah,

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Speaker 25: we have a long way to go. We feel like

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Speaker 25: we are just getting started on the on the journey

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Speaker 25: and on the mission, and we're excited if we take

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Speaker 25: the impact we're seeing on our customers today and just

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Speaker 25: how they are lifting the productivity and sustainability and saving

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Speaker 25: time and it's better for the farmers and the land

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Speaker 25: and the cows, and trying to scale that through new

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Speaker 25: markets and things of that. We are excited to keep

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Speaker 25: kind of pushing that credit.

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Speaker 2: What do you think you are? You're the next what?

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Speaker 2: That's a big question.

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Speaker 25: I think we these like heaps of so many cool

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Speaker 25: companies I think out there having a huge, huge impact.

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Speaker 25: And so obviously I spent some time with Rock Lab

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Speaker 25: and really at my opedia Beck and he's been instrumental

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Speaker 25: in helping to build Holter and just I couldn't be

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Speaker 25: more grateful to Pete. But I think for us, we

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Speaker 25: just focused on farmers and ag and that industry.

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Speaker 2: And where where was the farm that you grew up on?

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Speaker 25: I grew up in Marinsville, Well, actually all around the

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Speaker 25: South wak I do, but morons all was it's where

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Speaker 25: my parents are today, and it's whether everything kind of started.

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Speaker 2: Have the parents got this on the farm.

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Speaker 25: They were the first customer for sure.

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Speaker 2: How old are you, Craig, I am thirty one. Oh

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01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,839
Speaker 2: I see heapes behind Jinda Morrins from college.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, we didn't. There was no overlap with Jacinda.

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Speaker 2: But well maybe if you you know what, you could

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Speaker 2: be the most famous Moronsville guy if you keep going

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Speaker 2: at this. Craig, thank you very much for coming in.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 16: Mate.

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01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 2: That's Craig Pigot, founder and CEO of Halter. Remember the

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01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: name twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio empowered by News TALKSB. I did everything

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Speaker 1: from SMS to the big corporates, The Business Hour with

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplesicy Ellen and Mass Insurance and investments, Grow your wealth,

1527
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Speaker 1: Protect your future. News Talks MB.

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Speaker 2: Get a load of this. This is from Nathan Heather

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01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 2: during carving, I spend three hours a day putting up

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01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: fences for cows. Halter can do it in ten minutes,

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01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 2: so I can save twenty hours a week for twelve weeks.

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01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: That's two hundred and forty hours for our farm at

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01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars per annum and an

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01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 2: aging workforce. I'm replacing a labor unit at a lower

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01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: cost than the people I would normally have to replace

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01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 2: them with. It's brilliant tech and it's an innovation that

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01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 2: is game changing. Nathan, thank you. And these guys, by

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01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 2: the way, have got backers that include Peter Teal, Peter Beck,

1539
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 2: Sir Steven Tindall. The funding round was led by Bond.

1540
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: Bond is based in San fran Bond's founding partners have

1541
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 2: backed the likes of Airbnb, Door, Dash, Facebook, Uber so

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01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: On drew investment. This funding around drew investment from NewView Capital, Blackbird,

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01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: ice House Ventures, and had returning investors from Bench Partners,

1544
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 2: Palo Alto's DCVC, and a whole bunch of others. So,

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01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if the smart guys are putting

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Speaker 2: their money there, then they might must be onto something.

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01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 2: You'd think. Sixteen past six now, oil prices dropped surprisingly

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01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: with Iran's striking Qatar Brad Olsen is in for metrics

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01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: principal economists and with us A Brad.

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Speaker 27: Good evening.

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Speaker 2: Would you have expected them to do the opposite.

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Speaker 27: Well, we've sort of been expecting a bit more of

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01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 27: a fulsome response from Iran, So if that had happened,

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01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,839
Speaker 27: then yeah, we were expecting oil prices to go higher.

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01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 27: If we saw the strait of Hormus being blocked or similar,

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01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 27: you could have seen a much different result. As it is,

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Speaker 27: over the course of twenty four hours, we've had the

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Speaker 27: markets go from being still quite worried about things to

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Speaker 27: now a ceasefire being in operation. Oil prices have crashed

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Speaker 27: something like fourteen percent since their peak. We're now under

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Speaker 27: seventy US a barrel. So you know, in the course

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Speaker 27: of a couple of days, we've gone from what feels

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Speaker 27: like the brink of World War III to you know,

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Speaker 27: everything's back to normal.

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Speaker 2: So now we've got a cease Well, don't get over excited, Brad, jeez,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's still Trump running the free world. We've

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Speaker 2: got a bit of a ceasefire deal here. What's that

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Speaker 2: going to do to the price of oil?

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Speaker 27: Well, so far it really seems to have settled everyone down.

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Speaker 27: The expectation and the concern, I guess was always that

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Speaker 27: if you had this wider regional conflict. If you saw

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Speaker 27: the Iranians that we're going to block the straight of

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01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 27: hormone that has twenty percent of the world's oil going

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Speaker 27: through it, that would see further spikes in prices. You

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 27: would have seen that in New Zealand with potentially three

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01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 27: dollars a eet of petrol starting to come back. As

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01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 27: it is, things have actually gone back now. Oil prices

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01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,560
Speaker 27: are now lower than where they were before the original

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01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 27: Israeli strike on the thirteenth of June, and so everyone

1580
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 27: seems to be now looking at things and going, well,

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01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 27: there's no real reason that oil supply should be constrained.

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Speaker 27: There seems to be no ongoing risk to getting fuel

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01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 27: and so on. That basis is sort of no need

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01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 27: to worry quite as much, which is why you've seen

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01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 27: the price is sort of I'm not going to say

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01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 27: they've crashed, but Jesus, it was a pretty big drop

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Speaker 27: over the last twenty four hours of over ten percent.

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01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 27: I mean, we really have gone from one end of

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01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 27: the spectrum to another in a very short space.

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Speaker 2: Now with the whiplash is something else. So Brad, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. Appreciated. Brad Olson Infometrics principle economists who

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01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: Fletcher building a Never a day goes by, never a

1593
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 2: week goes by without Fletcher doing something that you're like, Wow, Okay,

1594
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: So they got more or impairment costs they had the

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01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,520
Speaker 2: Investors Day today, the company said it expects new restructuring

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01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: and investment impairment costs of between three hundred and five

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01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars over the twenty five financial year. Most

1598
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:17,440
Speaker 2: of this relates to restructuring, redundancy costs, goodwill and brand impairments,

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01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 2: closure costs, provision for owners contracts, blah blah blah. They're

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01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: also sinking another ten to fifteen million dollars into defending

1601
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: the IPEX issue iPLEX issue in Western Australia, which is

1602
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 2: kind of dragging on a wee bit. The company's chair

1603
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 2: Peter Crowley acknowledges that there has been quote past unacceptable

1604
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: performance and has said that lessons have been learned and

1605
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: a major turnaround was underway and I think a lot

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01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: of investors probably like to see that. Nineteen past six.

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01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,919
Speaker 1: The Rural Report with MSD Animal Health home of Rotovec

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01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: Corona ends its leading calf scars vaccine.

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01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 2: Heybreaking news. Israel has just agreed to the ceasefire with

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01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: the run. We've been waiting for that, so it's come

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01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 2: through six twenty two and Jamie McKay, Host of the

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01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 2: Countries with us.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Jamie gooda heathere.

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01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 2: Are you at some sort of award again?

1615
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I'm not getting one. I'm handing some out tonight,

1616
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 6: which is good. It's the This is like Heather the

1617
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 6: Rural Oscars, the Rural Academy Awards, and it's happening in

1618
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 6: the Flash. Have you been to the NEWPAI or relatively

1619
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 6: new SUPPI conference center and christ Church It's quite magnificent.

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01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 6: So that looked good. Well, it's looking marvelous. It's like

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01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 6: the big flash one that you former in your case,

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01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 6: Wellington ratepayers have got on Wellington Keina. We've got these

1623
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 6: wonderful conference centers. We've just got to pay for them.

1624
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,839
Speaker 6: But this is beautiful and tonight this is the primary

1625
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 6: industry New Zealand summit, so organized by Federated Farmers and

1626
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 6: they get two days all the industry leaders in one room.

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01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 6: They had some fascinating talkers, including a guy by the

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01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 6: name of Michael every this morning on Trump and what's

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01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 6: happening around the world. See that was frightening. And tonight

1630
01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 6: we have the primary industry awards, the Rural Oscars, and

1631
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 6: then tomorrow we lick our wounds, get out of bed

1632
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 6: and do it all again and then go home.

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01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 2: Why was it frightening to talk about Trump?

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01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 6: Oh, it was just interesting. He was talking about where.

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01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 6: This is a guy called Michael every who's a Singapore

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01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 6: based global strategist FABO Bank. His views are widely sought

1637
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 6: around the world. He's a regular on my show and

1638
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 6: I often say to him that after I've chatted to him,

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01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 6: I feel like climbing to the seventh floor Heather, which

1640
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 6: is the top floor of the West Back building in

1641
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 6: Duneden where we broadcast from and jumping off because because

1642
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 6: he is so depressing and that's when we're in good time,

1643
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 6: so you can imagine what he was like this morning.

1644
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 6: But it was interesting. He spoke about Trump and I

1645
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 6: was walking out of the out of his address and

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01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 6: a farmer said to me, you know, after hearing that

1647
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 6: maybe Trump's not as nutty as we think. And he's

1648
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 6: saying basically that Trump is changing the direction of how

1649
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 6: politics a is being played, but more importantly will be

1650
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 6: played in the next twenty or thirty years and it

1651
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 6: was almost singing the praises of Trump's terraffs.

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Speaker 2: Well, there you go. Well you know what I think

1653
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 2: there's there have been times where I have wandered myself

1654
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 2: where there may be in the long rut run he'll

1655
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 2: actually be proved, right, But I don't know. Jamie, enjoy yourself,

1656
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 2: don't go too large, drink responsibly, et cetera, et cetera.

1657
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 2: Jamie McKay, host of the Country sixteen ever do for

1658
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 2: c l Right, here's your daily dose of Showbur's news

1659
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: that you have to know. You know the UK TV

1660
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 2: star Nol Edmonds. He's got this new documentary because he's

1661
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 2: settled in New Zealand right and Richmond, and this new

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01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: documentary series has got the reviewers and tuzzy.

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01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 28: New Zealand's a great place to come to. It's not

1664
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 28: the easiest place to set up a business. Welcome to

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01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 28: the bugger. We're hemorrhaching money at the moment.

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01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 7: We need a bigger cream.

1667
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 28: You travel half way around the world and he turns

1668
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 28: up what lives.

1669
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 29: And I wish to achieve his community and people are happy.

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01:18:58,600 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 16: That's the key thing.

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01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 2: So Noel Edmonds's key we Adventure shows him on his

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01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,839
Speaker 2: eight hundred acre estate river Haven in the South Island,

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Speaker 2: including a pub that he has set up called The Bugger.

1674
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: In The Guardian has The Guardian has given him three

1675
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 2: out of five stars and said you'd have to utterly

1676
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 2: hate the TV host to resist this tale of his

1677
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 2: woo woo life as a New Zealand pub landlord.

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01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 30: Welcome to the Bugger.

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01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 29: It's a very nice, hazy IPA boring bastard hot liquor

1680
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 29: and American ipa. The old Gitsa Pilsnum tits up is

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01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 29: our lager and Dick Insider is very popular, particularly with

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01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 29: the Lady Hm.

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01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: The US say it's like a slower paced Clarkson's farm,

1684
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 2: so if you like Clarkson's farm you might enjoy this.

1685
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 2: The Independent. The Independent has watched it as well. This

1686
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 2: is what they say. We learn about Knoll. We learn

1687
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 2: that Knoll considered Liz, considers is Liz's lady. Yeah, Liz's

1688
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 2: lady to be a quote Earth angel. I believe she

1689
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 2: was a gift from the Cosmos. He considers his fancy

1690
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 2: nail gun to be a sex toy. He has a

1691
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 2: crystal bed, literally, he has a bed with some crystal

1692
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 2: suspended above it, to which he partly attributes has amazing longevity.

1693
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 2: And he also has a workout regime that he calls

1694
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 2: tranquil Power. And he has a nickname finally, as if

1695
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: like as if you need any more convincing to go

1696
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: and watch this. He has a nickname for his private parts,

1697
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 2: mister Happy, mister Happier.

1698
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:41,480
Speaker 12: And the Twins, Mister Happy in the Twins.

1699
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 4: Honestly, it's so.

1700
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 12: Bad, isn't it.

1701
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: You just know that he is. That will be part

1702
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 2: of his routine when he's trying to get Liz fizzing

1703
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: for the night. Is I'm Master Happy And the Twins,

1704
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, Honestly, grown men, grown men. They hit three

1705
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 2: and then they never developed that.

1706
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 12: I think.

1707
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 2: Anyway, go and watch it. I'm going to be at substage,

1708
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 2: aren't you right. Paul blocks him next. He's a proper

1709
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 2: grown up. He's going to talk us through the comparison

1710
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 2: he's done between the Australian and New Zealand economies. He

1711
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 2: reckons we're okay.

1712
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 1: News talks b.

1713
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 31: Again for a new person, over again, crunching the numbers

1714
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 31: and getting the results.

1715
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: It's Heather due to c Allen with the business hour

1716
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: and mass insurance and investments, grow your wealth, protect your future.

1717
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: News talks that'd.

1718
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 30: Be Doglady's going to BUI with us out of the

1719
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 30: UK in ten minutes time, and we need to deal

1720
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 30: with the I did talk about the people who get

1721
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 30: triggered by phone calls.

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Speaker 2: We've got to deal with that. It's twenty five away

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01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 2: from seven. AGSPC chief economist Paul Bloxham is back with us. Hello, Paul.

1724
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 26: Good eight Now.

1725
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 2: Paul, you've been telling me for months that you think

1726
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: the New Zealand economy is doing better than we think.

1727
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 2: You got the numbers now to back you up.

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01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 26: Yeah, well, we got the GDP figures and they were

1729
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 26: fairly strong. I think you aligned with the sort of

1730
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 26: view we've had for a little while that New Zealand

1731
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 26: would be in an economic upswing this year, and it

1732
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 26: would be a reasonable, reasonable one. We've got GDP running

1733
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 26: at point eight in the quarter. That's actually a pretty

1734
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 26: decent number. It was twice the pace that the Central

1735
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 26: Bank had been forecasting just in their last set of forecasts.

1736
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 26: And we think it's underpinned by things that will continue

1737
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 26: to lift growth through the year. The two big ones

1738
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 26: that interest rates have already come down a long way

1739
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 26: two hundred and twenty five basis points of easing so far,

1740
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 26: and that's going to start to flow through. It's effect

1741
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 26: takes time, but it'll flow through. And the other big one,

1742
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 26: of course, is that dairy prices are high and you've

1743
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 26: got a positive lift in export's going on. That's driving

1744
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 26: incomes in the agricultural sector, and we think that tends

1745
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 26: to flow over through to the cities as well. It

1746
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 26: just takes a little bit of time. So those two

1747
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 26: big factors we think are driving New Zealand into an

1748
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 26: economic upswing this year.

1749
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 2: Do you think the beating of expectations that happened in

1750
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 2: the first quarter carries on throughout the year.

1751
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 26: We do think that where our forecast is at the

1752
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 26: top edge of the consensus. So if you listed the

1753
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 26: whole the economists right now and looked at what their

1754
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 26: fullcasts are for growth for New Zealand this year, we

1755
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 26: would be at the top of that list. And that's

1756
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 26: because we think that actually there's going to be a

1757
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 26: bit more momentum than others do. So yes, I think

1758
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 26: in principle we think that quite a bit of the

1759
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,879
Speaker 26: momentum that started off in the first quarter continues into

1760
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 26: the rest of the year.

1761
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: So the thing that's given people a bit of the

1762
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 2: wobbles is the readings we got in May, right for

1763
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: the PMI and the PSIE. You're not too worried about that.

1764
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 26: I think you've got to be careful to overly interpret

1765
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 26: any one month's indicator. And you've have got this Indica,

1766
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 26: the set of indicators for May that have weakened. But

1767
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 26: keep in mind what's going on globally and then try

1768
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 26: to have a think about why sort of these global

1769
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 26: shops that are going on in trade policy should really

1770
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 26: fundamentally feed through to New Zealand. And I think it's

1771
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 26: a stretch to believe that. You know, it's more likely

1772
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 26: to be sentiment than it is likely to be a

1773
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 26: genuine sort of slow down in the growth story, given

1774
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 26: the momentum we think that's there from as I say,

1775
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 26: interest rates coming down and the particularly strong rise in

1776
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 26: dairy exports. So while we're aware of it and we're

1777
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 26: watching it and that may it may prove to be

1778
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 26: that actually things have weakened a bit, we're not prepared

1779
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 26: to jump quite as strongly in that direction just based

1780
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 26: on one month's reading.

1781
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: Now, now you've done a comparison between how our economy

1782
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 2: is tracking in Australia and to your mind, we're doing

1783
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 2: a lot better than Australia. What's going wrong with them?

1784
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 26: Well, the first thing is that part of this story

1785
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 26: is purely cyclical. You know, Australia didn't have as big

1786
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 26: a slowdown last year, and so we don't think it's

1787
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 26: going to get as big an upswing this year. Inflation's

1788
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 26: coming down slowly. New Zealand had a much deeper downturn

1789
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 26: last year, and so interest rates have come down a

1790
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 26: lot more quickly, and of course you're going to get

1791
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 26: as a bat on the back of that, we think

1792
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 26: a cyclical upswing. Both economies have some structural challenges and

1793
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 26: the primary issue there, of course is that productivity is weak,

1794
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,520
Speaker 26: and that productivity story is constraining growth in the economy.

1795
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 26: It's much more prominent in Australia, though. I think in

1796
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 26: Australia we've got some really quite dismal productivity outcomes. So

1797
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 26: on the last print we got output per hour work,

1798
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 26: which is exactly as it sounds. It's how much output,

1799
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 26: how much GDP you get for how many hours you

1800
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 26: put into the economy was falling by one percent. It

1801
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 26: fell by one percent over the past year. This is

1802
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 26: not a new story. It's been going on for a

1803
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 26: while now. But productivity is really quite a big challenge here.

1804
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 26: I know it is in New Zealand too, but it's

1805
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 26: an even bigger challenge in Australia, and that is presenting

1806
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 26: a pretty decent headwind to the pace at which the

1807
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 26: Australian economy can grow.

1808
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 2: Why why is it a bigger problem there?

1809
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 26: I think we just haven't done very much reform in

1810
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 26: recent years, and that's one of the factors. I mean,

1811
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 26: you could say the same about parts of the New

1812
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 26: Zealand story too, and you know, policymakers need to really

1813
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 26: focus on on the reform agenda. I think the other

1814
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 26: thing is that we've seen a lot of growth in

1815
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 26: the Australian economy over the past couple of years has

1816
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 26: been driven by public spending. It's been public demand. In fact,

1817
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,799
Speaker 26: you know, eighty percent of the growth in the Australian

1818
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,759
Speaker 26: economy over the past two years has come from public demand,

1819
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 26: or three quarters of the job creation has been public

1820
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 26: demand as well. Public demand funded and so those jobs

1821
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 26: tend to have lower levels of productivity on average. We're

1822
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 26: talking about things that are mostly related to the care economy,

1823
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 26: aged care, disability, the disability insurance scheme, the health, the

1824
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,520
Speaker 26: health side, and these things tend to have lower productivity.

1825
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 26: I think if you looked at the comparable numbers for

1826
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 26: New Zealand, although public demand's been solid, it hasn't been

1827
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,799
Speaker 26: nearly as strong as you've seen in Australia.

1828
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 24: Yeah.

1829
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 2: Interesting, that's fascinating. Also good news there. Thank you very much, Paul,

1830
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Paul Bloxham, hspec's chief economist, twenty away from

1831
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: seven Together dulh Hey, the Order to Generals just put

1832
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 2: out a report today into how conflicts of interest were

1833
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 2: managed in the fast Track approvals process. Because remember there

1834
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: was a lot of talk about the people making the

1835
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 2: decisions having conflicts of interest and blah blah blah. He's

1836
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 2: found overall the system for managing ministerial conflicts in the

1837
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: fast track approvals process was sound. So we can stop

1838
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: talking about that, then, can't we. Now, have you had

1839
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 2: enough good news today because I don't feel like I have.

1840
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: I've had a lot, but I can give you some more.

1841
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 2: Do you know roadblocks? Now? I don't know roadblocks because

1842
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 2: I don't, like, I really hate my cell phone, but

1843
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 2: other people love their cell phones, they really really do.

1844
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 2: And so that been playing a lot of games on it.

1845
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 2: Not talking about anybody but our producer Sam anyway. So

1846
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 2: what roadblocks is is that there is It's like a

1847
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: gaming platform, right, It's one of the world's largest gaming platforms.

1848
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,879
Speaker 2: At the start of this year, it had ninety million

1849
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 2: people who were active in this virtual universe, this particular platform,

1850
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 2: and this platform you can. Sam showed me how it

1851
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 2: works today and basically you go on, you open the

1852
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 2: old DApp and then from there you can choose which

1853
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 2: game you want to play. One of the games on

1854
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: there is called Grow a Garden. It's made by some Kiwis.

1855
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 2: It's going gangbusters. It's clocked twenty million people playing it

1856
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 2: at once last weekend. That made it one of the

1857
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: most played games of this year. It has had nine

1858
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 2: billion visits since it was created in March. That's extraordinary.

1859
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 2: It was made by a sixteen year old in about

1860
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 2: three to four days. Then it was like I guess,

1861
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 2: bought and run by a twenty eight year old guy

1862
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 2: who runs a Splitting Points studios. They make a habit

1863
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 2: of going and buying these games and then running them

1864
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,719
Speaker 2: and you know, trying to monetize them and stuff like that. Anyway,

1865
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 2: the game basically involves you getting a patch of virtual land,

1866
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 2: growing yourself a garden, and then when you harvest all

1867
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 2: of your virtual crops, you can sell your items for money.

1868
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 2: And then you can't if you can't be bothered with

1869
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 2: the hard work that that entails, you could just go

1870
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 2: and steal it from other people's gardens made by a

1871
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 2: Kiwi going gangbusters. We're just winning at the moment away

1872
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 2: from seven.

1873
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics. It's all

1874
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: on the business hours with Hither duplicy Ellen and mes

1875
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 1: insurance and investments. Grow your wealth to protect your future.

1876
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: These talks ed me hither.

1877
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 2: That game was known as Farmville on Facebook fifteen years ago. Grace,

1878
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: thank you for that quarter to seven into Brady UK

1879
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 2: correspondence with us right now, Hey.

1880
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 7: Inda, Hey, Heather, how are you?

1881
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm well? Thank you?

1882
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 31: Now?

1883
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 2: Is this five percent of GDP for the military spending reel?

1884
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 7: Yes, it will be in ten years time, that's the problem.

1885
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,799
Speaker 7: And where will we be in a decade. We simply

1886
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 7: don't know. So Keir Starmer is heading over to the

1887
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 7: Netherlands to the Hague. There is the big two day

1888
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:45,879
Speaker 7: summit of all the NATO leaders starting today. What's interesting

1889
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 7: is out of nowhere yesterday, and this didn't really make

1890
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 7: the news because of everything that's going on in the

1891
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 7: Middle East. President Zelenski arrived pretty much unannounced into London yesterday.

1892
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 7: He went straight to Windsor Castle for lunch with King

1893
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 7: Charles and then he came back to number ten Downing Street.

1894
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 7: They literally rolled out a red carpet at the front

1895
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 7: of number ten Downing Street for Zelenski yesterday. So the

1896
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 7: threat from Russia, the war, it has not stopped. The

1897
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 7: Russian threat has not gone away. And Starmar's pledge to

1898
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 7: NATO today will be that yes, Britain will start spending

1899
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 7: five percent of GDP on defense, but it'll take them

1900
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 7: a decade to get there.

1901
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 2: Now, what is interesting about it is that it's made

1902
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 2: up of three point five percent, which is traditional defense spending,

1903
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 2: and then one point five percent, which is whole of society.

1904
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 2: What does that mean.

1905
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 7: I think that's investment in infrastructure. And look, given what

1906
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 7: we saw the other day with pro Palestinian activists getting

1907
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 7: onto an RAF air base in Oxfordshire and effectively destroying

1908
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 7: aircraft tens of millions of dollars worth. They need every

1909
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 7: penny they can get because that was very embarrassing.

1910
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 2: Hey, so where's the statue of Queen Elizabeth? Gonna go?

1911
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 7: Saint James's Park in front of Buckingham Palace, And basically

1912
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 7: Lord Norman Foster, the renowned British architect, has been given

1913
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 7: the gig. He was one of several entries and the

1914
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 7: government and the royal family have chosen him. So there

1915
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 7: will be a statue of the Queen on horseback. There

1916
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 7: will be a kind of like a see through bridge

1917
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 7: over replacing what is a bridge there at the moment

1918
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 7: in Saint James's Park, And interestingly they're also going to

1919
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 7: have a statue of Prince Philip. So it'll be a

1920
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 7: really kind of standout kind of moment, I think. And

1921
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 7: the plan is for it all to be done by

1922
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 7: April next year, when she would have turned one hundred.

1923
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 2: Hey, tell me about this island and the key we

1924
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:44,759
Speaker 2: connection to the Scottish island.

1925
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is a lovely story. Today, So there is

1926
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 7: an island for sale called Shoona Shuna and it has

1927
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 7: a ruined castle on it. Eleven million dollars if you

1928
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 7: fancy it. It is beautiful, but the castle is in ruins.

1929
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 7: Would you believe? In nineteen eleven a Kiwi adventurer called

1930
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 7: George Alexander Buckley McLean he built that castle. It's absolutely

1931
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 7: stunning the beaches. It looks beautiful, very serene and peaceful.

1932
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Speaker 7: But I think eleven mill is just a starter. If

1933
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Speaker 7: you can buy the island, you're gonna probably have to

1934
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Speaker 7: spend another ten or eleven doing up that castle. But

1935
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Speaker 7: a Kiwi adventurer, he was a mate of Shackleton's. He

1936
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,480
Speaker 7: was on the expedition to the Antarctic on the Nimrod

1937
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Speaker 7: and he somehow rocked up on a Scottish island in

1938
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Speaker 7: nineteen eleven and built himself a castle. The family are

1939
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Speaker 7: selling it. Family are selling it now. Bottom line is

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Speaker 7: eleven million ends z.

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Speaker 2: What do you know about? This castle is double glazed, nunsulated.

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Speaker 7: It's got trees growing out of the windows. Come on, Heather,

1943
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 7: come on, that's the catch. You're gonna have to spend

1944
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Speaker 7: a lot of money doing it up. There was a

1945
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Speaker 7: family living there up until maybe three or four decades ago.

1946
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Speaker 7: The kids were home schooled and it's been in the

1947
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Speaker 7: same family for eighty years. They're now deciding to sell.

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Speaker 2: Is that that's the Gully family, isn't it?

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Speaker 7: This is it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

1951
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Gully family and that they've Dave's decided to

1952
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Speaker 7: cash in their chips. Boss. Look, someone in Ireland last

1953
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 7: week won about four hundred million dollars on euro millions

1954
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Speaker 7: matching seven balls. So this will be loose change for someone.

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Speaker 7: And what a project, what a project.

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Speaker 2: Thanks and to appreciate it. Into Brady, UK correspondent. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's quite the yarn and it's worth going through

1958
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 2: reading about it. Actually loving a yarn that ends up

1959
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: being connected to Shackleton here that you can tell by

1960
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 2: that game that it's made by a Kiwa. Don't like

1961
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Speaker 2: what's in your garden go steal from someone else? Yeah,

1962
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Speaker 2: that is it's a bit a bit of us, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: There's a bit of news about Ponsonby Road in the

1965
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Speaker 2: last twenty four hours, and I care about it because

1966
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Speaker 2: I live in Ponsonby and I, you know, loiter around

1967
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Speaker 2: Ponsonby Road and have really loitered around Ponsonby Road since

1968
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 2: I was at university. It was it was the place

1969
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 2: I went to to drink far too much when I

1970
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 2: was studying my Bachelor of ass and then you know,

1971
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 2: grew up, bought a house around there. Thought I was

1972
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 2: a big deal. Now I just marched the children up

1973
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 2: and down it, you know, pop into the Dlhi. Actually

1974
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,759
Speaker 2: the Dalhi is fantastic. But anyway, I get off track.

1975
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 2: Why I care about Ponsby Road is because I live

1976
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 2: there and someone has suggested, and that many of people

1977
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 2: have suggested this particular article that Ponsonby Road is dying.

1978
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 2: And I'm glad they said that because it confirms to

1979
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Speaker 2: me I'm not imagining it, because I have noticed this.

1980
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 2: I've noticed that Ponsonby Roads is just having a bit

1981
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 2: of a tough time, and I feel like we should

1982
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 2: discuss this. So let's hold hold, hold the line caller,

1983
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Speaker 2: deal with it in a minute, tend to.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplicy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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1986
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1988
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1989
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Speaker 2: The good news doesn't end, we have been voted the

1990
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Speaker 2: country that is the best in the world for work

1991
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Speaker 2: life balance.

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Speaker 12: Again.

1993
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Speaker 2: Yep, right now, we're having a great life time out

1994
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 2: sixty countries been ranked on factors like paid maternity leave,

1995
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Speaker 2: sick leave, public happiness, and average work hours per employees.

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Speaker 22: So there you go.

1997
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Speaker 2: Feel good about yourself anyway. Listen, let's talk about Ponsby

1998
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Speaker 2: Road really quickly. I think there's a lesson here for everybody,

1999
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 2: whether you live in Auckland, Ponsonby, down country wherever. What

2000
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 2: they've done is they've mucked up the road, right, so

2001
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 2: they've got too much hospitality and not enough retail, and

2002
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 2: there are lots and landlords are trying to keep the

2003
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 2: price of rent up. Landlords really suck sometimes. I don't

2004
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 2: know if you've noticed this, but they really do not

2005
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 2: do us any favors in our in our hot spots.

2006
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 2: The landlords are apparently in Ponsoby, leaving places empty rather

2007
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 2: than dropping the rent to get people in. God only

2008
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 2: knows why they do that, but they do that. You've

2009
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 2: got longtime fashion businesses just getting tired of it and

2010
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 2: leaving Zambizi. Kate Sylvester, Juliet Hogan, Carlson I mean Zambizi.

2011
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 2: I grew up with Zambizi and world being there. They've

2012
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 2: been there forever. And now Zambizi has gone. Flotsam and Jetsam,

2013
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 2: which is a vintage home Westol which is a strange

2014
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 2: little shop that used to be on the corner of

2015
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 2: Williams and Ab and Ponsby Road, that's gone. It's gone

2016
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 2: to Richmond Road in Grayln And basically what's happening is

2017
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 2: the same thing that happened to Parnell Road. Or do

2018
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 2: you remember how parn Ow Road was really cool in

2019
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 2: the sort of like nineties and early two thousands. That's

2020
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 2: where you went to have a good time. Not anymore, Beattie.

2021
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 2: When was the last time you went to Parnell Road?

2022
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Speaker 9: Oh?

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01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 11: Hell no, ans I used to live there like three

2024
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 11: years ago, so probably not since then.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's see, I haven't been to Parnell well. I

2026
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 2: stayed on an apartment on Parnell Road. Really good people

2027
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 2: rented it to us when we first moved back to

2028
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 2: Auckland start of twenty three. Haven't been back there. I

2029
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 2: don't even know if I've been back there. No, probably

2030
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 2: won't drive around it anyway. So there you go be

2031
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 2: careful of that situation. Hey, thank you, because everybody who

2032
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 2: texts me earlier on about people getting triggered by phone

2033
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 2: calls is on the same page as me. Bloody hell, Heather,

2034
01:36:57,880 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: these women cannot be married, can they? Because who the

2035
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 2: would have them if they get triggered by our phone call? Hither,

2036
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 2: what is wrong with these whimps? Where's the courage? I

2037
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 2: mean that you need courage to answer your own phone

2038
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:11,600
Speaker 2: is a mental situation. Hither, it's called voicemail. Dennis, you

2039
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 2: bang on ants.

2040
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 11: Right here that you remember this one.

2041
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 1: This is the story of a girl Crow.

2042
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 11: So the band who made the song called nine Days,

2043
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 11: I genuinely couldn't have told you that before I looked

2044
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 11: the Startlets. This is their only song that really got popular.

2045
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 11: But they have done eight albums. They're going to Australia

2046
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 11: for the first time ever. In the entire history of

2047
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 11: the band, they have never been to Australia. But it's

2048
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 11: happening in November. They're going to be playing in Brisbane,

2049
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 11: in Sydney and in Melbourne. Normally I'd be optimistic and say, well,

2050
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 11: this room and that schedule to do a New Zealand

2051
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 11: show as well. No, no, no worry about it. Oh yeah,

2052
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 11: they just tend to discuss us these days. But still

2053
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 11: easy enough to fly over there. If you would really

2054
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:49,640
Speaker 11: like to see the song and some of the other

2055
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 11: stuff off their eight.

2056
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 2: Albums, would you fly for the song?

2057
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 11: Absolutely not, even though the song is called absolutely and

2058
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 11: the band is called Nine.

2059
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 2: Days, So this song is called absolutely.

2060
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 11: Absolutely in brackets story of a girl. Like, guys, just

2061
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 11: admit it. Everyone is just going to call the song.

2062
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 3: Story of a girl.

2063
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 10: Why just call it story?

2064
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 11: Just call it story of a girl.

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01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 2: This is a shock to me that it's not called

2066
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 2: story of a girl anyway. Thank you, as we learned

2067
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 2: something every day. See you tomorrow, have a lovely evening

2068
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 2: in the best country to live in or whatever it

2069
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 2: was before. Yay U s cool?

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01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 9: We wind us.

2071
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 31: This was the words I would saying here a wedding.

2072
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 31: Where to day when you're walking to Nell.

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01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 2: This is the story of.

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Speaker 1: When She's for more from Hither duplessy Allen Drive. Listen

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