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Speaker 1: One of the lingering questions after yesterday's announcement on the

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Speaker 1: road user charges v petrol tax shakeup is how this

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Speaker 1: is going to work. Well, there's a key we company

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Speaker 1: called E Road based in Auckland. It's already delivering exactly

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Speaker 1: this for our trucking industry. Mark Heine is the co

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Speaker 1: CEO of E Road. Hey, Mark, good Mark explained to

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Speaker 1: me how you guys do this.

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Speaker 2: So look, ecotechnology has been around for a number of

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Speaker 2: years and it's very prominent in the heavy vehicle space.

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Speaker 2: So to have eruck, you need three things. One, you

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Speaker 2: need to know the distance travel by a vehicle. Seeking,

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Speaker 2: you need a platform to collects that data and enables

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Speaker 2: payment for use of the roads. And finding need that

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Speaker 2: data connection. So those three elements correct this eeruck system

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Speaker 2: to enable pain for use of the roads.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, if I have a new car, I imagine

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Speaker 1: this reasonably. No, Actually, let me imagine assume nothing. If

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Speaker 1: I have a new car bought it last year, Let's

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Speaker 1: just say, what do I need to install?

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Speaker 2: Look, many new cars already are connected. They already have

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Speaker 2: a SIM card and them a matter of an API.

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Speaker 2: I've been switched on. Data flows through and you can

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Speaker 2: make your payment straight away now as the minute to mention.

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Speaker 2: They want it to be as easy as paying for Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Their technology is already there to enable that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Old car Old you.

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Speaker 2: Need probably some aftermarket hardware. So if you've go to Sydney,

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Speaker 2: you see this all toll tags and vehicles just near

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Speaker 2: something like that. Something really unobtrusive, easy to install, collects

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Speaker 2: data and then transmit its back to the platform and

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Speaker 2: you get gained paid in credit easily, just like Netflix.

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Speaker 1: How much does that cost?

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Speaker 2: So we're still working through with the government the pricing

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Speaker 2: for that, but our target is to get it as

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Speaker 2: cheap as possible. That toll tag and Sydney costs around

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Speaker 2: forty dollars to buy. We'd like to see something around

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Speaker 2: that price. If not, blow on that.

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Speaker 1: Can it be gained?

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Speaker 2: Can it can be gained? Look for all these things,

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Speaker 2: you have robust technology and tamper proof protections in them.

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Speaker 2: We've got one hundred and thirty thousand pieces of a

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Speaker 2: hardware out there. People aren't gaming them. It's pretty robust

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Speaker 2: and reliable.

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Speaker 1: You can't wind the odometer backcutter cable do something like that.

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Speaker 2: Not for this sort of technology.

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Speaker 1: No, you can't how sure are you of that? Because

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Speaker 1: you know we find ways, don't we mark a look.

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Speaker 2: Kerrys are very creative and have a lot of ingenuity.

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Speaker 2: But the good thing is this relies on GPS technology.

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Speaker 2: It's fairly robust and really reliable. We last you collect

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Speaker 2: the closer billion dollars on calf the government without costing assent.

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Speaker 2: And it's off the back of really robust, reliable technology.

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Speaker 2: You can't really tackle with how.

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Speaker 1: Do authorities know if that white car driving down the

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Speaker 1: road hasn't paid their rucks?

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Speaker 2: So there's good technology you can start using now, whether

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Speaker 2: it's around bluetooth connectivity, doing number plate readers in the

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Speaker 2: light to actually understand what vehicles have connected technology for

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Speaker 2: e eruck and you can pick it up pretty It's

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Speaker 2: simply if you don't have the connection India, you can

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Speaker 2: go right this white vehicle down the road doesn't have it.

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Speaker 2: It can pull them over and hap them to catch up.

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Speaker 2: There may be some other fail safe mechanism back in

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Speaker 2: there when you check your off make sure the ODO

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Speaker 2: is no consistent of what the EERU creators saying. Sin's

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Speaker 2: other file safe mechanism you can put in there to

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Speaker 2: make sure people are being honest with their use of.

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Speaker 1: The road market reckons you're going to get one of

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Speaker 1: the contracts? Are you're going to get one of the contracts?

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Speaker 2: Look, you know E Road was the market leader here.

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Speaker 2: We developed the technology over ten years ago, so we're

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Speaker 2: confident that our technology will be great for all kiwis

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Speaker 2: and so yeah, we're definitely pitching in here and playing

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Speaker 2: our part.

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Speaker 1: How quickly do you reckon? Realistically the government can get

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Speaker 1: a system like the setup for the entire country.

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Speaker 2: Well, the system's already there, So the question is going

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Speaker 2: to be about how do you best rolled out. Already

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Speaker 2: a million vehicles have to pay some form of ROADUS

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Speaker 2: to charging. E Road has one hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 2: using our technology already, So the technology is there around

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Speaker 2: how do you want to stage their rollout? Whether you

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Speaker 2: want to start with heavy vehicles and then work your

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Speaker 2: way down to light passenger vehicles. So I think the

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Speaker 2: government inspectation on timeline is probably fare let the technology

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Speaker 2: get into the market between now and twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: but then start phasing this technology into people's vehicles.

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Speaker 1: Mark, thank you so much. Make Heine, co CEO of

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