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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from Newstalk ZB Sunday.

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Speaker 2: James mcconey, good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Piney. How are you made?

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Speaker 2: Very good? Thanks? Very good? Are you unduly concerned about

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Speaker 2: the Warriors' first loss of twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm okay with it. I think it's just a

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Speaker 3: reality check. There were probably aspects of the loss that

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Speaker 3: we're concerning, including not being able to break through what

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Speaker 3: is normally a reasonably flimsy defensive line from the Tigers.

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Speaker 3: But one thing I did note when I did a

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Speaker 3: little bit of deep research for you, Poney, some analytics

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Speaker 3: the Warriors forwards are a little on the small side.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm just saying, nobody over one meter ninety

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Speaker 3: and I know it's not all about height and weight,

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Speaker 3: but sometimes if you see them bashing into a defensive

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Speaker 3: line and it's not really budging, you do have to

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Speaker 3: note that they're a little bit undersized. And you know,

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Speaker 3: according to most of my ex girlfriend, size does matter.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you ask Hurricanes coach Clark Laidler about that,

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Speaker 2: he'd say that about Warner Durns. How good's this guy

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Speaker 2: going honestly.

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Speaker 3: Mate, Warner Durns from another planet. He is a proper

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Speaker 3: two meters plus locke. He is athletic. He's the chargedown king.

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Speaker 3: Obviously everyone a members. The one that he did against

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Speaker 3: for Japan against the All Blacks in the Christie with

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Speaker 3: the box kick, Oh no, you don't warn a Durns

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Speaker 3: charge down. He did that again against the Western Force

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Speaker 3: the other day. He is just such a premium athlete.

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Speaker 3: Obviously everyone knows his mum Tanya Durns. Who is Tanya Cox,

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Speaker 3: the Great Silver Fern's defender. But he went over there

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Speaker 3: as a young man. He's loved it over there. He's

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Speaker 3: got a Japanese partner, they've got a son. He is

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Speaker 3: committed to the Brave Blossoms. He can't he's not injured eligible.

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Speaker 3: But the Hurricanes have done a great thing by adding

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Speaker 3: him to their pack because now they've just got tall

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Speaker 3: Timber who's a super.

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Speaker 2: Now I've just looked at the tab odds and the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs won last night over in Perth to move back

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Speaker 2: into the top six. They're currently fifth with four wins

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Speaker 2: and two defeats. The Hurricanes are eight points ahead of them,

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Speaker 2: and in four of their six games they have scored

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Speaker 2: fifty points or more. The Chiefs are still favorites to

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Speaker 2: win Super Rugby in the eyes of the tab Do

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Speaker 2: you think this is solely down to the fact that

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Speaker 2: the Hurricanes have had far fewer matches against New Zealand

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Speaker 2: opposition up to this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've dodged the Derby's. But the way the Hurricanes

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Speaker 3: are playing is just so convincing, compelling. It's almost the

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Speaker 3: way the All Blacks you'd like to see them play,

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Speaker 3: where you know, the run first mentality. I know it's

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Speaker 3: probably because they've been open games that have opened out

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Speaker 3: to big margins, but look, there are key All Blacks

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Speaker 3: in there just looking superb. Cam Roy Guard, Jordi Barrett,

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Speaker 3: you know Reuben Love. I mean, he's a guy I'd

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Speaker 3: actually like to see in the number ten jersey for

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks. His skill level is just out of

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Speaker 3: this world. And then you know Peter Larkey, Duplessy Kadifi.

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Speaker 3: These guys are suffer while more these are going to

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Speaker 3: be crucial All Blacks as we move forward. And I

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Speaker 3: think we've talked about Devin Flanders. He's won that. Surely

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Speaker 3: Dave Rennie will have the Spies out looking at because

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Speaker 3: he just seems to be that sort of complete Lucy

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Speaker 3: who can do it all and get stuck under the

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Speaker 3: tough stuff.

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Speaker 2: The Blues are going okay, aren't they? So I'm not

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Speaker 2: not under the radar necessary, but they won their fourth

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Speaker 2: straight game yesterday. Yeah, I mean I quite like watching

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Speaker 2: the Blues that there are, you know, a pretty decent

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Speaker 2: rugby team, aren't they.

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Speaker 3: I think the Blues are going to be there or

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Speaker 3: thereabouts gum finals timed. I've got the cattle if you like.

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Speaker 3: And they love confrontation, that's what vern Cootta is all about.

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Speaker 3: And then Paul Tito and there with the forwards. They

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Speaker 3: just want to win that physical contest and of course

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Speaker 3: in June that means, you know, they become even more important.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that it was unconvincing yesterday, but hey, they've

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Speaker 3: uncovered new talent, including Cody Vyn of course sat of

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Speaker 3: Carlos Peyton Spencer scored his first try last night. A

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Speaker 3: couple of us says, you know that they're progressing nicely,

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Speaker 2: They are they are, yeah, and we'll certainly have a

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Speaker 2: lot to say about the final makeup of Super Rugby

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Speaker 2: this year. On Eden, Park Tomorrow night, what's gone football Rugby?

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Speaker 2: There's a Wiggles concert, not the four Wiggles but the

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Speaker 2: former Orange Wiggle there today and then Blair Christiansen and

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Speaker 2: his team will get it ready for football again tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to see a couple of goals obviously from

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Speaker 2: the All Whites tomorrow night. What are you thinking about

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Speaker 2: this match up with Chili Pineyer?

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Speaker 3: I think Chili this is this is perfect because they

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Speaker 3: will be even more so than Finland, a very you know,

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Speaker 3: World Cup adjacent team. They they'll play a possession style football.

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Speaker 3: They will suffocate as much as as they can. So

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Speaker 3: what chances we get or create, we're going to have

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Speaker 3: to capitalize. I think that the big issue for me

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Speaker 3: is are the goals? Are we just waiting for Chris Wood?

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Speaker 3: Because you can't just wait for Chris Wood. I think

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Speaker 3: Callum mccow it's a genuine goal scorer. I think Jesse

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Speaker 3: Randall is too. Somehow they're going to have to work

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Speaker 3: out will they get Singing back to some kind of

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Speaker 3: form where he's a factor, because there's just not enough

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Speaker 3: chances created. And to be honest, Jesse Randall would probably

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Speaker 3: be the guy you'd want with his pace to have

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Speaker 3: impact off the bench, but maybe it's just something we

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Speaker 3: have to throw the kitchen sink at it and say, look,

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Speaker 3: all as many goals scoring people are on the field

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Speaker 3: at once.

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Speaker 2: I'd start Jesse Randall tomorrow night. I think he's kind

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Speaker 2: of earned that for his second half against Finland the

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Speaker 2: other night. I think he's earned a start. As we've

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Speaker 2: talked about this a lot, he's the hot hand, he's

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Speaker 2: playing well for his club. He's clearly able to bring

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Speaker 2: that up a level into the international Why not give

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Speaker 2: him a start tomorrow night? And is the funny thing

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Speaker 2: is a year ago, James, you know, if we were

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Speaker 2: talking about an all Whites World Cup squad, Jesse Randal

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Speaker 2: probably wasn't in it. Now we're talking about him starting

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Speaker 2: matches for the national side.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and fair enough, I'm the same with you. I

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Speaker 3: would start Jesse Randal. I would actually just I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know that Ben Old is going to be hopefully

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Speaker 3: a massive factor because he's been playing regular games over

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Speaker 3: at France, although his team has dropped down in the

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Speaker 3: second division. I think, but look, this is the issue

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Speaker 3: Jesse Randal. No matter where you put him, I think

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Speaker 3: his pace will trouble anyone. So I'm with you, Pony,

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Speaker 3: give Jesse a chance. You know, I think Alex Paulson

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Speaker 3: should be nurtured as our number one goalie, have the

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Speaker 3: better distributor. You can't go just to sit back at

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Speaker 3: World Cups. You're going to have to do you want

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Speaker 3: that's where the goal scorers need to emerge. And even

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Speaker 3: Libby Cacacci, you know, when he's fit and available at

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Speaker 3: left side is where our best hope lies and that's

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Speaker 3: through Jesse plays.

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Speaker 2: Yep, agree all right to finish today. Kee We basketballer

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Speaker 2: Charlie s Leder Walker. She could be w NBA bound.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she's on some draft sites or mock draft they

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Speaker 3: call them. For the WNBA, she will be. She's lying

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Speaker 3: about fifteenth, so you'd hope that she'd make it through.

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Speaker 3: As a playmaking point guard. She's sort of I know,

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Speaker 3: eight or nine as sister. Game is pretty regular for her.

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Speaker 3: She's with UCLA, which is an absolutely stacked team, but

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Speaker 3: when you watch them play, she's a total team leader

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Speaker 3: for them, So I think that's going to happen. I

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Speaker 3: hope that a team makes it all the way in

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Speaker 3: March madness, because that'll be cool as well. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Megan Compaign who now works for the All Blacks in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Rugby. She was our last w NBA player,

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Speaker 3: so let's look out for Charlie's leader Walker. Of course

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Speaker 3: we all remember her as this prodigy, but now you

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Speaker 3: know she's about to get a chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, love that, Love that text through Ken James confirm

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Speaker 2: or deny he was at KFC Hastings yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean this will sound like a false denial

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Speaker 3: because but I was not at KFC hasting so I

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Speaker 3: wish I was. Though it sounds like it'd be a

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Speaker 3: great KFC with plenty of turnovers. So that's what you want,

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Speaker 3: is a good fresh KFC.

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Speaker 2: What surprises me is that somebody looks like you. I

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Speaker 2: mean I've only ever known won you? Have I you know,

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Speaker 2: even from a distance squinting, I know it's you.

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Speaker 3: Come on, mate, have you not seen Hagrid from Harry

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Speaker 3: Potter from Warren Gatland at a little bit. I've got

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Speaker 3: plenty of doppelgangers out there, I tell you, But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean Hagrid is probably the number one, and there'll

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Speaker 3: be friends of mine nodding, right, now listening to it

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Speaker 3: going Yep, He's Hagrid the Giant from Harry Potter.

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Speaker 2: There's only one James McConney on Weekend Sport. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: joining us as always, Mate, we'll see what even parked

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Speaker 2: my or not.

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Speaker 3: You're a wizard, Piney.

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