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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Sotheby's International Realty Elevate the

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Speaker 1: marketing of your Home on.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle tonight, Mark Sainsbury Broadcaster and Allie Jones of

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Speaker 2: Red pr Good Evening Ron Hey, Mark, what's going on

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Speaker 2: in Wellington? Can you figure it out? From where you were?

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Speaker 3: No one can figure out what's going on Wellington. It's

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Speaker 3: just I don't know, there's just everyone's getting already really frustrated.

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Speaker 3: The funny thing was when we had a glimpse of

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Speaker 3: summer for about two days, the whole mood improved, and

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Speaker 3: then it all turned again. It's like there's like emblematic

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Speaker 3: of areathing that's going on.

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Speaker 2: And now we've got you know, Tapati Maldi and Karen Traure,

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Speaker 2: and we've got New Zealand first and the Green MP's

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Speaker 2: and we've had Riccado on the show tonight. Alie, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what do you do when you when you're

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Speaker 2: looking at this in the news.

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Speaker 4: I don't actually, and I think that's part of the problem.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know how it can't be covered or

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Speaker 4: can be ignored, because you know, this is almost clickbait stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's stuff that people like I hate it, I kind

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Speaker 4: of ignore it. It's like kindergarten, you know. I think

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Speaker 4: that politicians have got to lead by example, and I

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Speaker 4: think that Shane Jones's comments around the rough and tumble

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Speaker 4: of politics is just such a weak excuse for bad behavior.

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Speaker 4: I just want to point to an article that was

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Speaker 4: on Stuff this week from local entrepreneur guy called Ben Keppish.

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Speaker 4: I hope I'm saying that correctly, and it was entitled

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Speaker 4: the Lost Art of Respectful Disagreement. I just s it's

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Speaker 4: only a couple of sentences. He said he was talking

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Speaker 4: about a conversation that turned into an argument and shouldn't have.

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Speaker 4: He said that kind of interaction lacks nuance, nuance and humanity.

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Speaker 4: And at Foster's Division, rather than constructive criticism, it's the

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Speaker 4: opposite of the kind of civility, a mutual respect we

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Speaker 4: need in all our interactions. And I think that is

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Speaker 4: exactly what this is at Foster's Division. It's not constructive,

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Speaker 4: it's not human, and it's the opposite of civility.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to argue with all of that. Allie, I

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Speaker 2: think right, we're going to come back in just a second.

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Speaker 2: Mark Sainsbury and Alie Jones here on the Huddle.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, local and

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Speaker 1: global exposure like no other news talks.

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Speaker 2: You'd be just gone twelve to six, Mark Sainsbury's broadcaster

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Speaker 2: on the Huddle tonight with Alie Jones, red PR Welcome

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Speaker 2: back guys. The lunch, the school lunch issured. This is

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Speaker 2: David Seymour's baby and the lunches are out there in

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Speaker 2: the schools, which is great, but one school had a

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Speaker 2: rocky start. Apparently there were some lunches that were like

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Speaker 2: people who are complaining, Mark, have you seen the photos

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Speaker 2: of them that they look fine to me? But some

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Speaker 2: people are saying they look a bit stodgy and like

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Speaker 2: kids won't eat it. What do you think, Well, you.

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Speaker 3: Look, I haven't tried them myself. You're going to get that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a fact. Well they're saying one

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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty seven thousand meals are being being delivered,

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Speaker 3: but if you're a school with a turning up at

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Speaker 3: two thirty, it's not great. But the problem is has

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Speaker 3: been so much hype around it. You know, this was

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Speaker 3: David Seymour's baby. You remember all the stuff when the

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Speaker 3: various menus came out, so you know, politically, it's not

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Speaker 3: a great look for them when the thing doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: But if it doesn't ben then pretty soon, okay, you

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Speaker 3: may be able to tolerate. Say, look, it was a

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Speaker 3: few problems at the start, not great for a kid

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Speaker 3: turning up and not getting a meal, but effect continues

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Speaker 3: and then then they've got a real issue if it's

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Speaker 3: if it's as are trying to say that, these are

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Speaker 3: a few glitches with teething problems. As I was saying, okay,

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Speaker 3: but you know, don't stand and parade something as the

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Speaker 3: greatest thing since sliced bread and then it doesn't quite

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Speaker 3: deliver it.

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Speaker 2: Ellie, what do you think to be fair to see

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Speaker 2: what he actually said? He was quite honest. He said

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Speaker 2: he tasted them, said they were okay. So he's not

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Speaker 2: saying it's a you know, a five course meal or

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Speaker 2: a five star meal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's not the most effusive guy either, is

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Speaker 4: he really? I mean, can you see him descriptively telling

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Speaker 4: us what he's eating. I can't see it myself. There

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Speaker 4: are two issues here. I think the first one is

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Speaker 4: the delivery issue that Mark's just talked about, and I

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Speaker 4: think he's spot on with the comments around if it

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Speaker 4: continues and the blandness of it, And as Mark said,

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Speaker 4: we don't know about the blandness because we haven't eaten them.

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Speaker 4: What I don't understand is in the story it says

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Speaker 4: that they did a trial, they tried this, They sort

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Speaker 4: of tried trialed the roll out before schools went back,

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Speaker 4: and I went, wow, that's really planning ahead and thinking.

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Speaker 4: So I would be looking at what the hell went

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Speaker 4: wrong between that and this, because apparently the trial went

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Speaker 4: very very well. I would have thought that had a

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Speaker 4: system there that, had it gone a bit wonky, that

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Speaker 4: people could have rung eight hundred or got Uber Eats involved,

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Speaker 4: or they've done some sort of deal with the local

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Speaker 4: food people. I don't know, but I would have thought

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Speaker 4: that there was a plan be because it might seem

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Speaker 4: like only a few in the scheme of things, but

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Speaker 4: it's a big thing when a principle has to go

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Speaker 4: out and spend five six hundred bucks on musley bars

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Speaker 4: and apples for their kids.

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Speaker 2: Totally, you know you're right. You're right. Even if it's

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Speaker 2: a small number of schools, that's still significant because the

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Speaker 2: other thing is that there's there'd be an expectation, you know,

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Speaker 2: once you know that your school was one of the

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Speaker 2: schools that gets them. No one would bring lunch to

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Speaker 2: school anymore.

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Speaker 4: Presumably, absolutely, I know. And you know some of these

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Speaker 4: kids may not have had breakfast either. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: it's inexcusable. Really. I know that there will be mistakes

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Speaker 4: and things don't always go right, but you know they

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Speaker 4: should have had some sort of plan and place whereby

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Speaker 4: they could have got something quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Somemore said that about the trial that

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Speaker 2: the problem they encountered was the traffic. So maybe there

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Speaker 2: was bad traffic. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well I raised the speed limits, of course.

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Speaker 2: Ryan's well problem solved. Sam. What did you have when

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Speaker 2: you went to school? What lunch? Did you make your

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Speaker 2: own lunch? Did mum make your lunch? Happy?

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Speaker 3: Mum used to make lunches. And you know, when I

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Speaker 3: was growing up, back in my day, it was either

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Speaker 3: cold mutton sandwiches. I don't know how many I ever

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Speaker 3: had the mutton race the night before. Sandwiches were x

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Speaker 3: three days, you know, And you used to look at

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Speaker 3: your sort of you know that the richer kids at

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Speaker 3: school we had on sort of the flash things and

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Speaker 3: their lunches. Yeah, I was pretty. And then the school

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Speaker 3: tried to do having making food available there, which was

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Speaker 3: pies and fish and chips, which was.

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Speaker 2: What the school gave you, fish and chips.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we had a shop.

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Speaker 4: We had a touch shop that could sell you fish

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Speaker 4: and chips, but only on a Friday, and hot dog

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Speaker 4: and chips was the most popular. And you could get

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Speaker 4: hot dog and chips for like fifty cents, which is

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Speaker 4: really aging me. D you might and chippies was my

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Speaker 4: sandwich choice of primary school. But when we were we

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Speaker 4: came from Fiji, so I started school here and Mum

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Speaker 4: hadn't had much experience of dairy for a start here,

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Speaker 4: or really crisps as we call them. She made her

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Speaker 4: own homemade crisps. She would shave potatoes as thinly as

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Speaker 4: she could and then deep fry them and put them

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Speaker 4: in little plastic bags so that we had chippies to

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Speaker 4: go to school with.

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Speaker 2: Oh see that is that is a caring, loving mother,

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Speaker 2: is it not. That's pretty cool. I had lunch and sausage.

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Speaker 2: She dared occasionally would make us lunch and so Mum

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Speaker 2: would do like lunch and sausage and if we were

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Speaker 2: lucky we get some tomato sauce. But Dad would do

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Speaker 2: cabbage and marmite you guys, for himself, for us, for

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Speaker 2: us kids. I'm like, do you hate us? You know?

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Speaker 2: Do you cabbage?

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Speaker 4: Ryan cooked cabbage?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, this explains a lot. Ryan melnourished as a child.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys. We should probably leave it there. Seven

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Speaker 2: minutes away from six Mark Sainsbury Broadcaster and Allie Jones

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Speaker 2: red PR on the huddle tonight. Nine two is the

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Speaker 2: number to text I do feel look at having seen

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Speaker 2: the photo of the meal that's come out today for

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Speaker 2: the children in schools. I would eat I would eat

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Speaker 2: that And people are saying it looks bland. Well, don't

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Speaker 2: you have to taste something to know whether it's bland,

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Speaker 2: like if it's food? You know, what do you know

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Speaker 2: if you're just looking at a photo. To me, it

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Speaker 2: looks fine. It looks like something that would fill me

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Speaker 2: up and that's all you need.

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