1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:16,467 Speaker 1: from News Talks dB. The only place for the big names, 3 00:00:16,787 --> 00:00:22,747 Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies, and the big conversations. 4 00:00:22,947 --> 00:00:26,387 Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your 5 00:00:26,507 --> 00:00:28,867 Speaker 1: home of Sport News Talks edb. 6 00:00:30,387 --> 00:00:33,627 Speaker 2: Hell like Jotna. Good afternoon and welcome and till Weekend 7 00:00:33,667 --> 00:00:36,787 Speaker 2: Sport on News Talks. It'd be Sunday, December twenty two, 8 00:00:37,467 --> 00:00:42,107 Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Casper Roud. Three days talk Christmas. I'm Jason 9 00:00:42,147 --> 00:00:46,667 Speaker 2: Pine Show producers Andy McDonald. Again, we extend the invitation 10 00:00:46,907 --> 00:00:49,467 Speaker 2: to you to talk some sport with us for the 11 00:00:49,507 --> 00:00:54,387 Speaker 2: next three hours or so as you negotiate traffic, crowded 12 00:00:54,427 --> 00:00:59,587 Speaker 2: shopping malls, long to do lists. We hope that you 13 00:00:59,627 --> 00:01:03,947 Speaker 2: can be helped by us in some way. We hope 14 00:01:03,947 --> 00:01:06,907 Speaker 2: we can help you escape some of the Christmas madness, 15 00:01:06,907 --> 00:01:09,387 Speaker 2: even if it's just for a short time. Look, even 16 00:01:09,427 --> 00:01:13,107 Speaker 2: if we help you from mall to maul in the car, 17 00:01:13,187 --> 00:01:15,227 Speaker 2: We're happy. We're going to keep the lines open all 18 00:01:15,227 --> 00:01:18,307 Speaker 2: afternoon on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. In fact, 19 00:01:18,347 --> 00:01:22,107 Speaker 2: what we've decided is really there's no agenda this afternoon 20 00:01:22,147 --> 00:01:24,107 Speaker 2: as far as sporting topics are concerned. I've got a 21 00:01:24,107 --> 00:01:28,067 Speaker 2: couple of ideas, of course I have, but we don't 22 00:01:28,067 --> 00:01:29,507 Speaker 2: normally do this, but we're just going to leave the 23 00:01:29,507 --> 00:01:32,147 Speaker 2: lines open all afternoon. So if something is on your mind, 24 00:01:32,147 --> 00:01:37,067 Speaker 2: and it might not even be necessarily sport related as such, well, 25 00:01:37,107 --> 00:01:40,467 Speaker 2: I mean we probably should stick in general terms to sport, 26 00:01:41,307 --> 00:01:44,907 Speaker 2: but if something's on your mind, just yeah, let us 27 00:01:44,907 --> 00:01:46,947 Speaker 2: help pass the time. Here are some of the things 28 00:01:46,947 --> 00:01:50,707 Speaker 2: we've got coming up this afternoon. Auckland FC our first 29 00:01:50,827 --> 00:01:55,227 Speaker 2: ever A league defeat a shell lacking who saw this 30 00:01:55,347 --> 00:01:57,827 Speaker 2: coming four nil. They got beat by Western United at 31 00:01:57,827 --> 00:02:00,147 Speaker 2: home yesterday. We're going to break that down for you. 32 00:02:01,067 --> 00:02:05,347 Speaker 2: Tyson Fury and Alexander Usak have met or are meeting currently, 33 00:02:05,427 --> 00:02:09,027 Speaker 2: as you heard in our Sports in their Unified World 34 00:02:09,067 --> 00:02:12,467 Speaker 2: title rematch in Reartsaudi Arabia. Once that is all done 35 00:02:12,467 --> 00:02:14,307 Speaker 2: and dust at our combat sports expert at the New 36 00:02:14,387 --> 00:02:17,347 Speaker 2: Zealand Herald, Chris Reeve, will pop in to review that 37 00:02:17,467 --> 00:02:21,067 Speaker 2: for us. Other matters around today, White ferns Seemer Molly 38 00:02:21,147 --> 00:02:25,187 Speaker 2: penfolders with us her best ever international bowling yesterday four 39 00:02:25,187 --> 00:02:28,027 Speaker 2: for forty two against Australia and the second Rose Bowl 40 00:02:28,067 --> 00:02:31,587 Speaker 2: one day at the Basin, unfortunately not enough to prevent 41 00:02:31,627 --> 00:02:35,387 Speaker 2: defeat on the DLS method. Rain set in sort of 42 00:02:35,427 --> 00:02:39,227 Speaker 2: midway through New Zealand's innings. So a loss to New 43 00:02:39,347 --> 00:02:42,307 Speaker 2: Zealand yesterday to Australia that means they can't win the 44 00:02:42,387 --> 00:02:45,107 Speaker 2: Rose Bowl. Only one game to go that's tomorrow, also 45 00:02:45,107 --> 00:02:46,827 Speaker 2: at the Basin. Even if they were to win that 46 00:02:46,867 --> 00:02:48,907 Speaker 2: in square the series, Ozzie have their Rose Bowl, so 47 00:02:48,947 --> 00:02:51,507 Speaker 2: they'd keep it. But Molly penfold on that the domestic 48 00:02:51,547 --> 00:02:54,907 Speaker 2: super smash nearly upon us as well, getting towards that 49 00:02:55,027 --> 00:02:58,547 Speaker 2: time of the year when our six provinces get into 50 00:02:58,947 --> 00:03:00,907 Speaker 2: T twenty mode. We'll hear from a couple of our 51 00:03:00,947 --> 00:03:06,027 Speaker 2: provincial captains this afternoon. The Tihe Basketball Old Dedaa Final 52 00:03:06,627 --> 00:03:09,907 Speaker 2: this afternoon from three o'clock in totong The Todonga Phi 53 00:03:10,267 --> 00:03:13,387 Speaker 2: in their first ever final, hosting the Toakumana with Queens 54 00:03:13,787 --> 00:03:17,987 Speaker 2: who are in their third straight decider. Basketball commentator Justin 55 00:03:18,027 --> 00:03:19,947 Speaker 2: Nelson and to poppin and preview that for US, James 56 00:03:20,027 --> 00:03:23,747 Speaker 2: mcconey in his usual slot around one forty five this 57 00:03:23,867 --> 00:03:28,747 Speaker 2: afternoon with his regular sporting musings. We know you're busy 58 00:03:28,747 --> 00:03:31,147 Speaker 2: as I say, but our lines of communication are well 59 00:03:31,187 --> 00:03:34,147 Speaker 2: and truly open. We invite you to call eight hundred 60 00:03:34,147 --> 00:03:37,107 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. That gets you through on the 61 00:03:37,107 --> 00:03:41,147 Speaker 2: phone nine two ninety two for text messages emails into 62 00:03:41,227 --> 00:03:45,187 Speaker 2: Jason at Newstalk SEDB dot co dot Nz. Just on 63 00:03:45,267 --> 00:03:47,347 Speaker 2: ten and a half past midday. 64 00:03:48,147 --> 00:03:53,507 Speaker 1: Breaking down the hail Mary's and the AMPI fails Weekend 65 00:03:53,547 --> 00:03:57,587 Speaker 1: Sport with Jason him News Talk zeb So. 66 00:03:57,867 --> 00:04:02,067 Speaker 2: Auckland FC, after their brilliant start to life as an 67 00:04:02,107 --> 00:04:06,067 Speaker 2: A league football team, have come crashing down to earth somewhat, 68 00:04:06,387 --> 00:04:13,027 Speaker 2: offering their first ever defeat. Till Bentley and Surgat again 69 00:04:13,067 --> 00:04:16,227 Speaker 2: gets the bounce of the ball. Najerie. There's a few 70 00:04:17,147 --> 00:04:18,227 Speaker 2: green shirts ahead. 71 00:04:18,667 --> 00:04:20,787 Speaker 3: Here's Grimaudy, Matthew Grimaudi. 72 00:04:21,987 --> 00:04:26,907 Speaker 4: That is a cherry on top for Western United and 73 00:04:27,067 --> 00:04:32,147 Speaker 4: it is applied by Matthew Grimaudy, the twenty one year 74 00:04:32,187 --> 00:04:34,947 Speaker 4: old hot hurry past. 75 00:04:34,707 --> 00:04:37,187 Speaker 2: Alex Paulson into the far corner. 76 00:04:37,667 --> 00:04:42,147 Speaker 4: And there's a Christmas cracker for Western United. 77 00:04:42,787 --> 00:04:46,267 Speaker 5: Bleed Auckland FC by four. 78 00:04:45,987 --> 00:04:48,467 Speaker 2: Goals to nil. Yeah, that's how it finished at Mount 79 00:04:48,467 --> 00:04:54,027 Speaker 2: smart Go Media Stadium yesterday afternoon. Western United for Auckland FC. 80 00:04:54,587 --> 00:04:57,947 Speaker 2: Nil quite the scoreline. Former Wellington Phoenix and All Whites 81 00:04:57,987 --> 00:05:03,027 Speaker 2: goalkeeper and Sky Sport analyst Jacob Spoonley is with us, Jake, 82 00:05:03,067 --> 00:05:04,107 Speaker 2: did you see this coming? 83 00:05:05,867 --> 00:05:07,507 Speaker 6: No should answer, Piney. 84 00:05:07,747 --> 00:05:09,987 Speaker 7: I don't think many people have seen this coming, apart 85 00:05:09,987 --> 00:05:13,307 Speaker 7: from John al Owisi, who was the architect of Auckland's 86 00:05:13,347 --> 00:05:15,787 Speaker 7: first downfall at home yesterday. 87 00:05:16,227 --> 00:05:20,307 Speaker 6: But Western was so fast and aggressive, and they started early. 88 00:05:20,387 --> 00:05:23,307 Speaker 7: I think it was ninety seconds we saw the first 89 00:05:23,427 --> 00:05:27,587 Speaker 7: chance flash Flairelence Paulson's posts and they went ahead after 90 00:05:27,667 --> 00:05:29,667 Speaker 7: twelve and from there they really got out of site 91 00:05:29,827 --> 00:05:30,427 Speaker 7: very quickly. 92 00:05:31,147 --> 00:05:34,867 Speaker 2: What led to this score line was it Auckland FC 93 00:05:35,187 --> 00:05:38,467 Speaker 2: off a bit, were Western United just really on a 94 00:05:38,467 --> 00:05:39,827 Speaker 2: combination of those things. 95 00:05:41,387 --> 00:05:43,787 Speaker 7: I think that's about right, Piney. It was a confluence 96 00:05:43,787 --> 00:05:47,587 Speaker 7: of different factors. I do think Steph Criker did not 97 00:05:47,787 --> 00:05:50,347 Speaker 7: see his side show up. He mentioned in the post 98 00:05:50,387 --> 00:05:54,427 Speaker 7: game that they didn't do the work, they weren't prepared 99 00:05:54,467 --> 00:05:57,627 Speaker 7: for the physical battle. In combination with that, I think 100 00:05:57,627 --> 00:06:01,467 Speaker 7: we're starting to see this Western United side mature. John Elowisi, 101 00:06:02,347 --> 00:06:06,107 Speaker 7: and let's also mention Andrew Durante and Camelo Impimbato. They've 102 00:06:06,107 --> 00:06:11,667 Speaker 7: got a very proficient football department in Western They have 103 00:06:11,747 --> 00:06:15,187 Speaker 7: been given a mandate to back these young players. We're 104 00:06:15,267 --> 00:06:17,467 Speaker 7: seeing the best come out of them now. We saw 105 00:06:17,667 --> 00:06:20,467 Speaker 7: Abell Wallaty yesterday. He showed up in the first half. 106 00:06:20,667 --> 00:06:24,027 Speaker 7: Reeese Posanowski had a great ninety minutes and there was 107 00:06:24,027 --> 00:06:25,267 Speaker 7: an impact from the bench as well. 108 00:06:25,307 --> 00:06:28,147 Speaker 6: Matt Grimoldi added the fourth goal after Noel Bot. It's 109 00:06:28,187 --> 00:06:29,587 Speaker 6: still only twenty two. 110 00:06:29,747 --> 00:06:32,507 Speaker 7: They had put the third one in by about thirty 111 00:06:32,507 --> 00:06:36,347 Speaker 7: minutes into the game, so I think to your point, yes, 112 00:06:36,427 --> 00:06:37,947 Speaker 7: it was an off day for Auckland, and I think 113 00:06:37,987 --> 00:06:40,947 Speaker 7: the lesson was sharper and harder because they're still learning 114 00:06:40,987 --> 00:06:43,507 Speaker 7: collectively at this point, so when they do come undone, 115 00:06:43,547 --> 00:06:46,267 Speaker 7: it does tend to happen quite dramatically. But let's also 116 00:06:46,307 --> 00:06:49,227 Speaker 7: give props to Western United, who are now firmly entrenched 117 00:06:49,267 --> 00:06:49,987 Speaker 7: in the top six. 118 00:06:50,387 --> 00:06:52,667 Speaker 2: Their third goal had a bit of controversy about it. 119 00:06:53,427 --> 00:06:57,307 Speaker 2: A pass from one Auckland player to another didn't find 120 00:06:57,307 --> 00:07:01,667 Speaker 2: its mark because Jake Brimmer, the intended recipient, came together 121 00:07:01,747 --> 00:07:05,947 Speaker 2: with referee Casey Rightbelt. There was a little bit of 122 00:07:05,987 --> 00:07:08,547 Speaker 2: chat afterwards about whether play should have been called back. 123 00:07:08,547 --> 00:07:10,107 Speaker 2: What did you make of that incident. 124 00:07:11,227 --> 00:07:13,987 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a really good point Piney, and I think 125 00:07:14,587 --> 00:07:17,147 Speaker 7: you can say the culpability was shared for me. Casey 126 00:07:17,227 --> 00:07:19,587 Speaker 7: Raibelt found herself in the middle of the traffic and 127 00:07:19,587 --> 00:07:22,307 Speaker 7: perhaps didn't manage the moment well enough. So on reflection, 128 00:07:22,587 --> 00:07:24,347 Speaker 7: as the players do, I think the referee will get 129 00:07:24,347 --> 00:07:26,187 Speaker 7: together and say, hey, what can we do differently there, 130 00:07:26,227 --> 00:07:30,067 Speaker 7: because you don't want to have the referee literally physically 131 00:07:30,227 --> 00:07:32,947 Speaker 7: inhibiting play pining equally. 132 00:07:32,587 --> 00:07:34,227 Speaker 6: There wasn't a response from Auckland f C. 133 00:07:34,947 --> 00:07:38,467 Speaker 7: They were shocked, this was the third goal and they 134 00:07:38,467 --> 00:07:41,867 Speaker 7: were really on their heels. There was no reaction from 135 00:07:41,907 --> 00:07:45,667 Speaker 7: the defenders and Western we're able to spring forward fairly quickly. 136 00:07:45,707 --> 00:07:47,147 Speaker 6: So I think Steve Courrick is going to. 137 00:07:47,067 --> 00:07:50,147 Speaker 7: Have a couple of shark words for his defenders in 138 00:07:50,187 --> 00:07:52,947 Speaker 7: that situation. From a technical point of view, just to 139 00:07:52,987 --> 00:07:55,467 Speaker 7: explain it for the audience, because the ball actually didn't 140 00:07:55,507 --> 00:07:59,467 Speaker 7: touch the referee, there was no official ability to stop play. 141 00:07:59,627 --> 00:08:02,027 Speaker 7: Although I can seem unfair in that situation, the rules 142 00:08:02,027 --> 00:08:02,627 Speaker 7: are very clear. 143 00:08:02,707 --> 00:08:04,227 Speaker 6: If the ball touches the. 144 00:08:04,147 --> 00:08:08,267 Speaker 7: Referee, then it is returned and by way of a 145 00:08:08,347 --> 00:08:10,227 Speaker 7: drop ball, I think to the team that was in 146 00:08:10,227 --> 00:08:12,467 Speaker 7: position at the time because it was Jake Rimmer that 147 00:08:12,467 --> 00:08:15,107 Speaker 7: came into contact with Casey Rye Belt, there was no 148 00:08:15,507 --> 00:08:19,187 Speaker 7: official reason to actually delay things or to bring proceedings 149 00:08:19,187 --> 00:08:20,867 Speaker 7: to a halt. So that's just a little bit of 150 00:08:20,907 --> 00:08:23,147 Speaker 7: an understanding and that was explained to me after the 151 00:08:23,187 --> 00:08:24,067 Speaker 7: game by the referees. 152 00:08:24,187 --> 00:08:25,747 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't think it would have mattered, and 153 00:08:25,987 --> 00:08:28,267 Speaker 2: John and Lewisi, the coach of Western United, said as 154 00:08:28,347 --> 00:08:30,707 Speaker 2: much afterwards. He said, Look, I can understand why they're 155 00:08:30,707 --> 00:08:32,467 Speaker 2: a bit annoyed by it, but if we didn't score there, 156 00:08:32,507 --> 00:08:35,827 Speaker 2: we were probably going to score another way. And by 157 00:08:35,867 --> 00:08:38,667 Speaker 2: that stage they were already to ni up and well 158 00:08:38,707 --> 00:08:42,067 Speaker 2: in control of the game. How do you assess Auckland 159 00:08:42,187 --> 00:08:45,307 Speaker 2: FC's ability to quickly bounce back from this. 160 00:08:47,507 --> 00:08:49,107 Speaker 7: Well, we're in that time of the year, there's a 161 00:08:49,107 --> 00:08:51,427 Speaker 7: lot of football and I think they'll be looking to 162 00:08:52,587 --> 00:08:55,587 Speaker 7: really kind of settle things internally, and then they've obviously 163 00:08:55,627 --> 00:08:57,747 Speaker 7: got a game in a couple of days time at 164 00:08:57,787 --> 00:09:00,387 Speaker 7: the back end of Christmas. They'll be traveling to Gosford. 165 00:09:00,747 --> 00:09:03,507 Speaker 7: And this isn't a Marinas team, that's the side that 166 00:09:03,547 --> 00:09:05,747 Speaker 7: we saw last year. There's actually some chat around Mark 167 00:09:05,827 --> 00:09:09,987 Speaker 7: Jackson eventually replacing Patrick's norber in the Melbourne victory. 168 00:09:10,067 --> 00:09:10,267 Speaker 8: Job. 169 00:09:11,427 --> 00:09:14,387 Speaker 7: But Auckland FC, they've had a wonderful start. We knew 170 00:09:14,387 --> 00:09:16,307 Speaker 7: it was going to come to an end at some point. 171 00:09:17,147 --> 00:09:19,747 Speaker 7: What we do know is that Steve Kroriker has built 172 00:09:19,747 --> 00:09:22,267 Speaker 7: this side on resilience. We've seen that and the way 173 00:09:22,267 --> 00:09:25,427 Speaker 7: they've looked to defend games this year. We've also seen 174 00:09:25,467 --> 00:09:27,507 Speaker 7: it in the way that they go deep into matches. 175 00:09:27,547 --> 00:09:30,227 Speaker 7: So I think although as we said, it was a 176 00:09:30,307 --> 00:09:35,907 Speaker 7: dramatic dismantling of Auckland by Western United at home, this 177 00:09:36,027 --> 00:09:38,387 Speaker 7: is the side that I reckon has Taylor made to 178 00:09:38,427 --> 00:09:40,067 Speaker 7: bounce back really quickly. 179 00:09:40,387 --> 00:09:43,427 Speaker 2: In terms of the players they're missing through injury. We 180 00:09:43,427 --> 00:09:45,987 Speaker 2: saw Louisvius Strata come back yesterday, which was a boost 181 00:09:46,027 --> 00:09:48,907 Speaker 2: of the team, although he I'm sure would have enjoyed 182 00:09:48,947 --> 00:09:51,187 Speaker 2: it or not enjoyed his time and that would have 183 00:09:51,187 --> 00:09:54,827 Speaker 2: preferred a much much happier time of things. But Dan 184 00:09:54,987 --> 00:09:57,747 Speaker 2: Hall at center back has been very good for this 185 00:09:57,827 --> 00:10:00,067 Speaker 2: team in the first half a dozen games. He's out 186 00:10:00,107 --> 00:10:02,107 Speaker 2: for two or three months. How big a blow is that? 187 00:10:03,747 --> 00:10:07,107 Speaker 7: Honestly, Pinney, I thought it wasn't going to be as 188 00:10:07,147 --> 00:10:11,067 Speaker 7: impactful and influential as it was, it turns out as 189 00:10:11,107 --> 00:10:14,667 Speaker 7: a player that perhaps we haven't been valuing because Lauchlan 190 00:10:14,747 --> 00:10:16,667 Speaker 7: did look a bit rattled. Yes, you can say Weston 191 00:10:16,707 --> 00:10:18,667 Speaker 7: took the game to them, but they were able to 192 00:10:18,707 --> 00:10:22,107 Speaker 7: move the very experienced Hirocki Sakay, their captain, into the 193 00:10:22,107 --> 00:10:24,907 Speaker 7: center bat role. They talked about de pointing him there 194 00:10:24,947 --> 00:10:26,867 Speaker 7: if they needed to throughout the course of the season. 195 00:10:27,547 --> 00:10:30,027 Speaker 6: Callan Elliott, the all White came in and sold at 196 00:10:30,107 --> 00:10:30,547 Speaker 6: right back. 197 00:10:30,627 --> 00:10:37,107 Speaker 7: So you've still got a very experienced side there. That said, though, 198 00:10:37,147 --> 00:10:38,907 Speaker 7: there were a couple of changes further up the field, 199 00:10:38,907 --> 00:10:40,547 Speaker 7: and I think the calibration was slightly up. 200 00:10:40,547 --> 00:10:45,547 Speaker 6: The combinations that we've seen developed very quickly were a 201 00:10:45,587 --> 00:10:46,427 Speaker 6: bit unsettled. 202 00:10:46,467 --> 00:10:48,747 Speaker 7: So Leam Gillian was moved down the right hand side, 203 00:10:48,787 --> 00:10:51,987 Speaker 7: and maybe that was a combination that wasn't quite settled 204 00:10:51,987 --> 00:10:55,107 Speaker 7: and perhaps too much in experience, because Wilson did attack 205 00:10:55,187 --> 00:10:56,707 Speaker 7: primarily down the left hand side. 206 00:10:56,707 --> 00:10:59,067 Speaker 6: I think it was something like sixty five for seem 207 00:10:59,107 --> 00:10:59,347 Speaker 6: to Bear. 208 00:10:59,347 --> 00:11:01,467 Speaker 7: Attacks came down the left in the first half, finding 209 00:11:01,547 --> 00:11:04,827 Speaker 7: wonderful work from our Sky's FOURT team, and we did 210 00:11:04,827 --> 00:11:08,067 Speaker 7: see changes down the right halftime, So the message. 211 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:08,267 Speaker 6: Was pretty clear. 212 00:11:08,267 --> 00:11:12,947 Speaker 7: The dissection that occurred indicated that it wasn't an individual issue. 213 00:11:12,987 --> 00:11:16,347 Speaker 7: Although Dan Hall's absence was very notable, it was more 214 00:11:16,467 --> 00:11:20,187 Speaker 7: a collective piece. They clearly wasn't happy with the way 215 00:11:20,227 --> 00:11:24,107 Speaker 7: in which Auckland were not only looking after the ball 216 00:11:24,147 --> 00:11:26,547 Speaker 7: but once Western were springing forward, the way in which 217 00:11:26,587 --> 00:11:27,307 Speaker 7: they were defended. 218 00:11:28,347 --> 00:11:32,227 Speaker 2: So that's Auckland FC. They lick their wounds and get ready, 219 00:11:32,227 --> 00:11:34,387 Speaker 2: as you say, for a trip to Gosford next weekend. 220 00:11:34,387 --> 00:11:37,907 Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix meantime looking to do some bouncing back of 221 00:11:37,947 --> 00:11:40,107 Speaker 2: their own. They were beaten to one at home by 222 00:11:40,147 --> 00:11:45,587 Speaker 2: MacArthur last weekend Western Sydney Wanderers tonight over in Western 223 00:11:45,667 --> 00:11:48,907 Speaker 2: Sydney at CommBank. What about their chances? How the USS 224 00:11:48,947 --> 00:11:52,147 Speaker 2: Wellington's chances of bouncing back from defeat at home? 225 00:11:53,347 --> 00:11:57,027 Speaker 7: We had seen going to Western Sydney up against the 226 00:11:57,107 --> 00:12:03,947 Speaker 7: WONDERUS side that contains brilliante Milanovitch, Krayers, Barrello and one 227 00:12:04,107 --> 00:12:07,227 Speaker 7: Hue matter would be a very daunty prospect. But we 228 00:12:07,387 --> 00:12:10,227 Speaker 7: just haven't seen what we thought we were going to 229 00:12:10,267 --> 00:12:11,787 Speaker 7: get from Allen Stadgett's team. 230 00:12:12,227 --> 00:12:13,987 Speaker 6: I hadn't done what it said it's going to do 231 00:12:14,027 --> 00:12:14,907 Speaker 6: on the ten pinting. 232 00:12:15,427 --> 00:12:17,707 Speaker 7: There's been a lot of criticism coming statutes of wait, 233 00:12:17,947 --> 00:12:20,787 Speaker 7: he hasn't really started by master anywhere near as much 234 00:12:20,787 --> 00:12:23,507 Speaker 7: as we were hoping to see the standard the World. 235 00:12:23,227 --> 00:12:25,187 Speaker 6: Cup winner in the A League. 236 00:12:26,107 --> 00:12:30,667 Speaker 7: And then you look at what Gean Carlo Ataliano is 237 00:12:30,707 --> 00:12:32,987 Speaker 7: starting to able his starting to be able to create 238 00:12:33,827 --> 00:12:39,507 Speaker 7: in the Costco combination mate Marco rojasen Costa barbarusis. They've 239 00:12:39,547 --> 00:12:41,427 Speaker 7: only played for around about one hundred and ten minutes 240 00:12:41,467 --> 00:12:42,507 Speaker 7: pinting and already they've come. 241 00:12:42,507 --> 00:12:43,467 Speaker 6: Up with two goals. 242 00:12:43,987 --> 00:12:47,547 Speaker 7: That said, he hasn't been happy with his defensive efforts, 243 00:12:47,547 --> 00:12:49,947 Speaker 7: so that's going to need to tighten up this weekend. 244 00:12:49,987 --> 00:12:52,907 Speaker 7: And look, it's a very high bar. Wellington, by Mike 245 00:12:52,987 --> 00:12:56,027 Speaker 7: count had the second best defensive record in the competition. 246 00:12:56,027 --> 00:12:58,347 Speaker 7: They're only being vetted by Melbourne victory and their level 247 00:12:58,347 --> 00:13:02,147 Speaker 7: with Auckland f C after yesterday's four nil result. But 248 00:13:02,507 --> 00:13:06,507 Speaker 7: they do run things on a very solid base and 249 00:13:06,707 --> 00:13:10,187 Speaker 7: there has been criticism and post match regularly from Chief 250 00:13:10,187 --> 00:13:13,347 Speaker 7: Eet that in the big moments he hasn't seen what 251 00:13:13,387 --> 00:13:15,827 Speaker 7: he accepts from his defenders. 252 00:13:16,987 --> 00:13:18,987 Speaker 2: When we look forward to seeing a bit more from 253 00:13:19,027 --> 00:13:21,587 Speaker 2: his defenders and his attackers tonight just before you go. 254 00:13:22,387 --> 00:13:24,467 Speaker 2: I know you keep an eye on Kiwi footballers all 255 00:13:24,507 --> 00:13:27,267 Speaker 2: around the world. Chris Wood has been turning heads and 256 00:13:27,627 --> 00:13:30,227 Speaker 2: got a message room this morning to let me know. 257 00:13:30,267 --> 00:13:31,667 Speaker 2: And I think I had already picked up on this 258 00:13:31,747 --> 00:13:35,547 Speaker 2: that Nottingham Forest Chris Woods side are up to third 259 00:13:35,587 --> 00:13:38,307 Speaker 2: in the Premier League, the Dizzy Heights of third. 260 00:13:39,267 --> 00:13:45,587 Speaker 6: Oh what's going on? We had Auckland's putting out a 261 00:13:45,627 --> 00:13:46,547 Speaker 6: beach yesterday. 262 00:13:46,707 --> 00:13:49,387 Speaker 7: They were making there was a wonderful occasion at Mount 263 00:13:49,427 --> 00:13:51,347 Speaker 7: Smart So I really do recommend you to get along 264 00:13:51,347 --> 00:13:53,547 Speaker 7: there on New Year's Day when they do play Melvin Victory. 265 00:13:53,547 --> 00:13:57,187 Speaker 7: We've got the Wellington Phoenix disappointed at being sits at 266 00:13:57,187 --> 00:13:59,867 Speaker 7: the moment, and then we're talking about Champions League football 267 00:13:59,867 --> 00:14:01,787 Speaker 7: from a very own Chris Wood, the man that is 268 00:14:01,827 --> 00:14:05,187 Speaker 7: in I think he's still third in the Golden Boot race. 269 00:14:05,667 --> 00:14:08,667 Speaker 7: It's incredible you've got a Norwegian, Egyptian and a Kiwi 270 00:14:09,027 --> 00:14:11,907 Speaker 7: that are running things in the Premier League at the moment. 271 00:14:12,227 --> 00:14:14,067 Speaker 7: He didn't get on the score sheet this morning, but 272 00:14:14,107 --> 00:14:15,827 Speaker 7: he had a very big hand and not them for 273 00:14:15,907 --> 00:14:21,467 Speaker 7: us opener and by and large is responsible for them. 274 00:14:21,627 --> 00:14:22,347 Speaker 6: Being third. 275 00:14:22,427 --> 00:14:22,787 Speaker 9: It is. 276 00:14:23,267 --> 00:14:24,947 Speaker 6: It's draumatic. It's remarkable. 277 00:14:25,187 --> 00:14:28,547 Speaker 7: I mean, dip into your Santa sack, playing any objective 278 00:14:28,627 --> 00:14:29,107 Speaker 7: you want. 279 00:14:29,587 --> 00:14:33,027 Speaker 6: It's fitting. It's act for Chris Wood at the moment. 280 00:14:33,347 --> 00:14:35,427 Speaker 2: Yeah, it absolutely is. He's having the time of his 281 00:14:35,467 --> 00:14:38,827 Speaker 2: life in the Premier League. Meantime, the A League continues 282 00:14:38,867 --> 00:14:40,627 Speaker 2: on the side of the world as always, Jacob, thank 283 00:14:40,627 --> 00:14:42,867 Speaker 2: you for your analysis this afternoon. Have a great Christmas 284 00:14:42,907 --> 00:14:44,947 Speaker 2: with the family and we'll catch up. I guess next 285 00:14:44,987 --> 00:14:48,347 Speaker 2: weekend when the Phoenix are home to Newcastle. The games 286 00:14:48,347 --> 00:14:50,147 Speaker 2: don't stop. They come thick and fast. But thanks for 287 00:14:50,187 --> 00:14:51,147 Speaker 2: your time this afternoon. 288 00:14:51,947 --> 00:14:53,027 Speaker 6: Thank you very much. Plenty notch. 289 00:14:53,067 --> 00:14:55,427 Speaker 7: Just a quick shout out to Blair Dainty, who unfortunately 290 00:14:55,587 --> 00:14:57,067 Speaker 7: is in hospital at the moment. 291 00:14:57,067 --> 00:14:58,467 Speaker 6: He is our wonderful director. 292 00:14:58,227 --> 00:15:00,347 Speaker 7: At Sky Sports, so we just hope that he recovers 293 00:15:00,347 --> 00:15:02,907 Speaker 7: and bounds his back quickly so we see him in 294 00:15:02,947 --> 00:15:04,187 Speaker 7: the truck and supporting us. 295 00:15:04,347 --> 00:15:05,627 Speaker 6: Very Christmas mate. 296 00:15:05,507 --> 00:15:08,467 Speaker 2: And to you too, Jakie, and I share your you know, 297 00:15:08,507 --> 00:15:11,147 Speaker 2: I share your concern and your good wishes to blow 298 00:15:11,147 --> 00:15:15,947 Speaker 2: out one of our wonderful producers directors at Sky could 299 00:15:16,027 --> 00:15:20,307 Speaker 2: missed yesterday's game, couldn't be there but I wonder whether 300 00:15:20,347 --> 00:15:23,787 Speaker 2: some Auckland f C fans might have been happy enough 301 00:15:23,827 --> 00:15:25,787 Speaker 2: to miss it as well. There seems to be a 302 00:15:25,787 --> 00:15:31,147 Speaker 2: bit of joy in your voice, says this text regarding 303 00:15:31,387 --> 00:15:34,867 Speaker 2: Auckland f C both today and yesterday on commentary. Look, 304 00:15:34,907 --> 00:15:38,547 Speaker 2: I'm no I take no joy from this. I don't. 305 00:15:38,667 --> 00:15:42,347 Speaker 2: I'm honestly hand on, I take no joy from Auckland 306 00:15:42,427 --> 00:15:45,907 Speaker 2: f C losing yesterday. If there was joy in my 307 00:15:46,107 --> 00:15:52,187 Speaker 2: voice during commentary, was I guess really aimed at Western United? 308 00:15:52,227 --> 00:15:55,307 Speaker 2: I thought they were terrific. I thought they were really 309 00:15:55,427 --> 00:15:58,507 Speaker 2: really good. And look, Auckland nessy will bounced back. It's 310 00:15:58,547 --> 00:16:01,627 Speaker 2: one game, you know, one game in a twenty seven 311 00:16:01,707 --> 00:16:04,707 Speaker 2: game season. I think it just because it came off 312 00:16:04,707 --> 00:16:10,227 Speaker 2: the back of an un precedented start, those unbeaten games 313 00:16:10,227 --> 00:16:12,267 Speaker 2: that they'd had, and the fact that they had hardly 314 00:16:12,307 --> 00:16:17,267 Speaker 2: conceded goals either. They conceded three goals in the first 315 00:16:17,627 --> 00:16:21,747 Speaker 2: thirty five minutes yesterday. That's the same number that they 316 00:16:21,787 --> 00:16:26,107 Speaker 2: had conceded in the previous seven games combined. So it 317 00:16:26,187 --> 00:16:28,627 Speaker 2: was that ten and a half hours. They can see 318 00:16:28,627 --> 00:16:32,027 Speaker 2: the three goals in ten and a half hours and 319 00:16:32,067 --> 00:16:36,467 Speaker 2: then three goals in thirty minutes yesterday. Hello, Bob, what's 320 00:16:36,467 --> 00:16:36,987 Speaker 2: on your mind? 321 00:16:38,827 --> 00:16:46,947 Speaker 10: Tony trying to resolve the food shortage problem around Usland 322 00:16:46,987 --> 00:16:51,867 Speaker 10: that for the people who don't have the resources. I 323 00:16:51,987 --> 00:16:54,707 Speaker 10: have an idea that I believe would work, and it's 324 00:16:54,707 --> 00:17:00,947 Speaker 10: all around entertainment and it's all around sporting textures. I 325 00:17:01,107 --> 00:17:06,547 Speaker 10: believe that we can set it up where everybody who 326 00:17:06,787 --> 00:17:11,627 Speaker 10: buys a ticket to a major event, whether it be 327 00:17:11,667 --> 00:17:15,787 Speaker 10: a music festival or a concert or whatever, and a 328 00:17:15,907 --> 00:17:21,827 Speaker 10: major rugby match or football match, whatever, When they buy 329 00:17:21,827 --> 00:17:25,307 Speaker 10: a ticket and they get enter the gates, they have 330 00:17:25,467 --> 00:17:31,067 Speaker 10: to bring a donation, which could be a can of beans, 331 00:17:31,427 --> 00:17:36,947 Speaker 10: a pack of spaghetti or whatever, and that can gather 332 00:17:36,987 --> 00:17:40,827 Speaker 10: a face and accumulate, and it can be run by 333 00:17:40,867 --> 00:17:46,547 Speaker 10: the people who run these food supply banks around New Zealand. 334 00:17:47,387 --> 00:17:52,027 Speaker 10: You'll have rugby matches and festivals in all different parts 335 00:17:52,027 --> 00:17:57,027 Speaker 10: of New Zealand and everybody can spare a dollar, fifty 336 00:17:57,147 --> 00:18:02,427 Speaker 10: or two dollars to donate a little contribution for the 337 00:18:02,547 --> 00:18:05,787 Speaker 10: people who need it, particularly at this time of the year. 338 00:18:06,587 --> 00:18:08,467 Speaker 2: Bob, I love it. I love it, and I know 339 00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:13,067 Speaker 2: that it happens regularly, one on a one off sort 340 00:18:13,107 --> 00:18:14,827 Speaker 2: of a basis I think while you're talking about is 341 00:18:15,147 --> 00:18:17,587 Speaker 2: all the time, which obviously would be amazing. I know, 342 00:18:17,867 --> 00:18:20,107 Speaker 2: if we're talking football at the moment, I know the 343 00:18:20,147 --> 00:18:24,187 Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix supporters Yellow Fever teamed up with the Wellington 344 00:18:24,227 --> 00:18:27,147 Speaker 2: City Mission yesterday for the women's game and last weekend 345 00:18:27,187 --> 00:18:29,627 Speaker 2: for the men's game and did exactly what you're proposing. 346 00:18:30,187 --> 00:18:32,147 Speaker 2: They said, if you can bring along a you know, 347 00:18:32,867 --> 00:18:35,387 Speaker 2: a grocery item or make a donation, if you can. 348 00:18:36,227 --> 00:18:37,747 Speaker 2: Look at you there seems to be a lot of 349 00:18:37,747 --> 00:18:40,427 Speaker 2: people going along to sporting events and concerts if they 350 00:18:40,427 --> 00:18:44,467 Speaker 2: were able to donate, as in a food or something similar. 351 00:18:44,547 --> 00:18:47,027 Speaker 2: If they were able to then yeah, look, I think 352 00:18:47,027 --> 00:18:48,867 Speaker 2: it's a it's a top idea, but I know that 353 00:18:48,907 --> 00:18:51,587 Speaker 2: it is being done on a semi regular basis around 354 00:18:51,587 --> 00:18:51,987 Speaker 2: the place. 355 00:18:53,267 --> 00:18:57,907 Speaker 10: Yeah, it could be done at every event. Like I said, 356 00:18:58,267 --> 00:19:03,987 Speaker 10: these food supply people are all around New Zealan, and 357 00:19:04,147 --> 00:19:07,827 Speaker 10: they would have the people who could the volunteer to 358 00:19:07,907 --> 00:19:10,547 Speaker 10: be at the games at the gate and have a 359 00:19:10,587 --> 00:19:13,907 Speaker 10: system where they could collect it and take it away 360 00:19:13,947 --> 00:19:18,187 Speaker 10: at the end of it whatever, and that would take 361 00:19:18,267 --> 00:19:20,027 Speaker 10: care of them an awful lot of people. 362 00:19:20,587 --> 00:19:22,947 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob, you're right, maybe it becomes part of our 363 00:19:22,947 --> 00:19:25,267 Speaker 2: match day routine. You know, when you leave the house 364 00:19:25,307 --> 00:19:27,707 Speaker 2: to go to the to go to the football or 365 00:19:27,787 --> 00:19:32,147 Speaker 2: rugby whatever, you get your beanie, your scarf, your jacket, 366 00:19:33,027 --> 00:19:37,307 Speaker 2: your wallet, your phone and it's in a food Yeah. Look, 367 00:19:38,467 --> 00:19:41,507 Speaker 2: people far smarter than I, I'm sure would would have the 368 00:19:41,547 --> 00:19:45,107 Speaker 2: ability to make this happen logistically, Bob, I appreciate your call. 369 00:19:45,147 --> 00:19:45,307 Speaker 9: Mate. 370 00:19:45,347 --> 00:19:47,267 Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number. 371 00:19:47,907 --> 00:19:50,627 Speaker 2: Just on the football yesterday, be keen to hear from 372 00:19:50,627 --> 00:19:53,187 Speaker 2: anybody who was there or if you watched. There was 373 00:19:53,227 --> 00:19:56,187 Speaker 2: a very controversial incident in the game and I asked 374 00:19:56,267 --> 00:19:58,427 Speaker 2: Jacob about it and he explained it pretty well. If 375 00:19:58,467 --> 00:20:01,387 Speaker 2: you haven't seen this. Auckland FC had the ball in 376 00:20:01,427 --> 00:20:05,187 Speaker 2: their own half and one of their players passed to 377 00:20:05,347 --> 00:20:08,907 Speaker 2: another of their players and in the way of that 378 00:20:09,027 --> 00:20:13,987 Speaker 2: pass or it was Filippe Geygos passing to Jake Brimmer 379 00:20:14,347 --> 00:20:16,947 Speaker 2: and as Guy Goos played the pass, Brimmer went to 380 00:20:16,987 --> 00:20:20,507 Speaker 2: collect the ball and ran into the referee, who just 381 00:20:20,587 --> 00:20:24,827 Speaker 2: happened to be there in that space. It prevented Jake 382 00:20:24,867 --> 00:20:28,627 Speaker 2: Brimmer from getting the ball. Instead, Western United sent it 383 00:20:28,707 --> 00:20:32,867 Speaker 2: back to mocky Am. I seized upon this opportunity, got 384 00:20:32,907 --> 00:20:36,427 Speaker 2: the ball, strode forward, played a pass just outside the 385 00:20:36,427 --> 00:20:41,507 Speaker 2: penalty area into the penalty area where Hiroshi Ibusuki scored 386 00:20:41,547 --> 00:20:44,867 Speaker 2: a goal to make it three nil. Now a lot 387 00:20:44,867 --> 00:20:47,027 Speaker 2: of fans saw this. I've watched it back. I missed 388 00:20:47,027 --> 00:20:49,947 Speaker 2: it live. I was following the ball, but you could 389 00:20:49,947 --> 00:20:51,987 Speaker 2: hear booze and I just wondered whether they were booing 390 00:20:52,027 --> 00:20:55,547 Speaker 2: because Western United had scored a third goal. Jacobs, Spoonley 391 00:20:55,547 --> 00:20:57,787 Speaker 2: and co. Commentary picked up on it and said, here's 392 00:20:57,787 --> 00:21:00,387 Speaker 2: what's happened, and on the replay that is what happened. 393 00:21:00,947 --> 00:21:04,587 Speaker 2: Both coaches were asked about it afterwards. John Ella Westy, 394 00:21:04,627 --> 00:21:07,707 Speaker 2: coach of Western United, actually gave a really good answer. 395 00:21:07,787 --> 00:21:10,467 Speaker 2: And you know, more often than not, and one of 396 00:21:10,467 --> 00:21:13,187 Speaker 2: our sports dunos, Ben Francis, pointed this out to me 397 00:21:13,267 --> 00:21:15,347 Speaker 2: yesterday when I sent the audio three said a lot 398 00:21:15,347 --> 00:21:18,627 Speaker 2: of times coaches said si, I didn't see it. I 399 00:21:18,667 --> 00:21:21,107 Speaker 2: didn't see it. John Elwisi, I mean to be fair, 400 00:21:21,147 --> 00:21:22,867 Speaker 2: it is in pretty pretty good mood that just won 401 00:21:22,947 --> 00:21:25,987 Speaker 2: for nil. Said Look, I can understand why Auckland are 402 00:21:25,987 --> 00:21:28,667 Speaker 2: a little bit annoyed by that, but the rule is, 403 00:21:29,107 --> 00:21:31,867 Speaker 2: as Jacob pointed out, if the ball hits the referee, 404 00:21:31,947 --> 00:21:34,427 Speaker 2: then play stops and there's a drop ball and we 405 00:21:34,467 --> 00:21:36,587 Speaker 2: get on with it. But there's no rule around a 406 00:21:36,627 --> 00:21:40,387 Speaker 2: player running into a referee like that because very arbitrary, right, 407 00:21:40,707 --> 00:21:43,947 Speaker 2: I mean Jake Brimmer might not have got the ball anyway. 408 00:21:44,267 --> 00:21:49,747 Speaker 2: So that was the major controversy around yesterday. Derek. Actually, 409 00:21:49,747 --> 00:21:52,267 Speaker 2: while I know you've called to talk football and a 410 00:21:52,307 --> 00:21:54,867 Speaker 2: bit of boxing, but what did you make of that incident? 411 00:21:54,867 --> 00:21:55,907 Speaker 2: Did you see it yesterday? 412 00:21:56,907 --> 00:21:59,707 Speaker 9: I was right behind John Lawisi in the stand. 413 00:22:00,227 --> 00:22:02,307 Speaker 2: Oh brilliant. Yeah, well you should have come and said. 414 00:22:02,427 --> 00:22:06,027 Speaker 2: You should have come up and said hello, Derek. 415 00:22:05,827 --> 00:22:09,187 Speaker 9: Look, I probably probably wasn't in the mood by then, 416 00:22:09,547 --> 00:22:12,787 Speaker 9: but I saw the incident. 417 00:22:12,907 --> 00:22:16,347 Speaker 11: And every single time I've seen that incident, Jacob, whatever game, 418 00:22:16,427 --> 00:22:18,907 Speaker 11: the referee always blows the whistle. Every time I've seen that, 419 00:22:18,907 --> 00:22:20,587 Speaker 11: they just blow the whistle and the old the old rule. 420 00:22:20,587 --> 00:22:22,587 Speaker 11: Of course, the reference is part of the game, so 421 00:22:22,587 --> 00:22:24,427 Speaker 11: after if you took a shot and it came off 422 00:22:24,467 --> 00:22:26,147 Speaker 11: the referee and went into the goal, there would be 423 00:22:26,147 --> 00:22:27,987 Speaker 11: a goal. And I always thought that rule was good. 424 00:22:28,027 --> 00:22:29,947 Speaker 11: I don't know why they decided to get involved, but 425 00:22:29,987 --> 00:22:33,307 Speaker 11: every time a referee. Every time I've seen them, whether 426 00:22:33,307 --> 00:22:35,107 Speaker 11: the ball hits them or whether a player runs into 427 00:22:35,107 --> 00:22:36,907 Speaker 11: them who's about to get the ball, they always blow 428 00:22:36,907 --> 00:22:40,107 Speaker 11: the whistle just you know, and it seems to be 429 00:22:40,187 --> 00:22:45,107 Speaker 11: good for both sides, it seems. But look the Aalklands, 430 00:22:45,227 --> 00:22:47,267 Speaker 11: I didn't going to say the phoenix there. Aukland didn't 431 00:22:47,387 --> 00:22:48,587 Speaker 11: didn't lose the game because. 432 00:22:48,427 --> 00:22:49,027 Speaker 9: Of the referee. 433 00:22:49,067 --> 00:22:52,427 Speaker 11: They lost because they went three goals down pretty early 434 00:22:52,707 --> 00:22:54,387 Speaker 11: and they didn't seem to recognize the fact that he 435 00:22:54,427 --> 00:22:56,707 Speaker 11: had a Western Sydney team full of energy who were 436 00:22:56,787 --> 00:23:00,347 Speaker 11: applying a high press, and even they were doing that, 437 00:23:00,387 --> 00:23:02,467 Speaker 11: they still decided to try and play the ball around 438 00:23:02,547 --> 00:23:04,827 Speaker 11: and Paulson got caught a couple of times with some 439 00:23:04,867 --> 00:23:08,307 Speaker 11: silly passes out from the back and previous times Auckland 440 00:23:08,347 --> 00:23:10,027 Speaker 11: seems to have gone over the top, and. 441 00:23:09,987 --> 00:23:11,067 Speaker 9: They didn't seem to want to do that. 442 00:23:11,107 --> 00:23:14,787 Speaker 11: They seem to be determined to outplay the high press 443 00:23:15,227 --> 00:23:18,667 Speaker 11: and get the ball through by somehow passing around them, 444 00:23:18,707 --> 00:23:20,867 Speaker 11: and we'ret the Sydney were happy to do that. And most, 445 00:23:21,027 --> 00:23:22,627 Speaker 11: I mean most goals that are scored in the game 446 00:23:22,667 --> 00:23:25,187 Speaker 11: of football, they usually the result of somebody there or 447 00:23:25,267 --> 00:23:27,507 Speaker 11: some kind of pressure being applied somewhere around the field. 448 00:23:27,827 --> 00:23:29,187 Speaker 11: But you know, at the end of the day, they 449 00:23:29,227 --> 00:23:31,027 Speaker 11: just didn't seem to realize that. They just didn't seem 450 00:23:30,987 --> 00:23:32,547 Speaker 11: to want to go lot. They didn't seem to want 451 00:23:32,547 --> 00:23:34,427 Speaker 11: to go along. And after that third goal win and 452 00:23:34,547 --> 00:23:36,667 Speaker 11: I looked around the field at the time, and I've 453 00:23:36,667 --> 00:23:39,947 Speaker 11: got the feeling that a lot of a lot of 454 00:23:39,987 --> 00:23:43,227 Speaker 11: the Auckland players and the Auckland bench were under the 455 00:23:43,267 --> 00:23:44,947 Speaker 11: impression that every refereeing. 456 00:23:44,587 --> 00:23:45,787 Speaker 9: Decision was going to go games. 457 00:23:45,947 --> 00:23:49,507 Speaker 11: I saw Drulia May a few times control the ball brilliantly, 458 00:23:49,507 --> 00:23:51,547 Speaker 11: bring it down, then got bundled off the ball with 459 00:23:51,627 --> 00:23:53,947 Speaker 11: pushes and kicks and all sorts of stuff, and the 460 00:23:53,987 --> 00:23:55,987 Speaker 11: referee just turned to blind eye, just didn't seem to 461 00:23:55,987 --> 00:23:58,187 Speaker 11: think that he could control the ball, and every time 462 00:23:58,187 --> 00:24:00,307 Speaker 11: he went past the player was brought down. She just 463 00:24:00,307 --> 00:24:02,587 Speaker 11: didn't want to give him a free kick or whatever reason. 464 00:24:02,867 --> 00:24:05,947 Speaker 11: And I think they got into their heads that everything 465 00:24:05,987 --> 00:24:07,947 Speaker 11: was gone against them. They came out in the second 466 00:24:07,947 --> 00:24:09,627 Speaker 11: half they did pretty well, but I think also Steve 467 00:24:09,667 --> 00:24:11,707 Speaker 11: Corrigan has to take some blame because I don't think 468 00:24:11,707 --> 00:24:14,027 Speaker 11: he had the midfield makeup correct. I think he had 469 00:24:14,267 --> 00:24:17,507 Speaker 11: too many attacking players on the field at the same time. 470 00:24:17,787 --> 00:24:19,787 Speaker 11: If you've got to play Moraine, now you have to 471 00:24:19,867 --> 00:24:23,307 Speaker 11: drop Rolinson. You can't play them both. But he had 472 00:24:23,347 --> 00:24:25,787 Speaker 11: like four players, and I thought they seem to think 473 00:24:25,787 --> 00:24:27,707 Speaker 11: that there's Belgian number six. 474 00:24:28,387 --> 00:24:28,947 Speaker 9: I can't remember it. 475 00:24:31,107 --> 00:24:33,067 Speaker 11: Yeah, they seem to think that he can shout out 476 00:24:33,067 --> 00:24:34,347 Speaker 11: any attackle by himself. 477 00:24:34,347 --> 00:24:36,387 Speaker 9: But he was surrounded by three players at times, and I. 478 00:24:36,307 --> 00:24:39,027 Speaker 11: Think he did more more midfield support. I think he 479 00:24:39,147 --> 00:24:42,867 Speaker 11: just got the makeup of the midfield wrongly. Having said that, 480 00:24:45,107 --> 00:24:47,987 Speaker 11: let me say something controversial and if you don't go on, if. 481 00:24:47,867 --> 00:24:51,147 Speaker 2: You don't go on, I understand completely. 482 00:24:51,587 --> 00:24:54,707 Speaker 11: But I looked at the makeup of the referering team 483 00:24:54,747 --> 00:24:57,547 Speaker 11: and I saw three guys there and one woman. And 484 00:24:57,587 --> 00:25:00,187 Speaker 11: I've seen that right Beck before when she's done the 485 00:25:00,227 --> 00:25:02,547 Speaker 11: Phoenix games. And you have to be at the game 486 00:25:02,627 --> 00:25:04,987 Speaker 11: to notice this. She doesn't give up with play, and 487 00:25:05,067 --> 00:25:07,227 Speaker 11: she might know the rules, she doesn't know the game. 488 00:25:07,507 --> 00:25:08,067 Speaker 9: And I have a. 489 00:25:08,027 --> 00:25:11,067 Speaker 11: Major problem with a woman taken over a top and 490 00:25:11,107 --> 00:25:12,947 Speaker 11: the A League is a top quality league. It's a 491 00:25:12,947 --> 00:25:13,867 Speaker 11: class league, I. 492 00:25:13,867 --> 00:25:14,387 Speaker 9: Believe it is. 493 00:25:14,867 --> 00:25:17,427 Speaker 11: And I have a major problem with a woman taken 494 00:25:17,467 --> 00:25:19,547 Speaker 11: over this game, especially when there's now a woman's league 495 00:25:19,587 --> 00:25:21,827 Speaker 11: that she can now she can now go to and 496 00:25:21,947 --> 00:25:24,827 Speaker 11: referee in that, I think they've made a major mistake. 497 00:25:25,107 --> 00:25:27,707 Speaker 11: And every time I've seen that she's had a poor 498 00:25:27,867 --> 00:25:29,427 Speaker 11: game in the A League, and there seems to be 499 00:25:29,547 --> 00:25:33,427 Speaker 11: this col shell where she is above criticism because she's 500 00:25:33,467 --> 00:25:36,067 Speaker 11: a woman. And I'm not saying for one moment that 501 00:25:36,187 --> 00:25:39,907 Speaker 11: Auckland lost that game because of her. I'm not saying that. 502 00:25:40,067 --> 00:25:43,667 Speaker 11: But she's a poor referee and I don't think especially 503 00:25:43,707 --> 00:25:45,627 Speaker 11: when you start losing the game. You can see it 504 00:25:45,667 --> 00:25:48,147 Speaker 11: with the Auckland faces. I don't think the players have 505 00:25:48,227 --> 00:25:50,267 Speaker 11: got confidence in her. And once again, I think she 506 00:25:50,427 --> 00:25:52,907 Speaker 11: knows the rules of the game, but she doesn't understand 507 00:25:52,907 --> 00:25:56,107 Speaker 11: the game. And that Jake Brimmer incident I think highlighted that, 508 00:25:56,547 --> 00:25:58,187 Speaker 11: and I think, look, if you don't want to talk 509 00:25:58,187 --> 00:25:59,067 Speaker 11: about that, I have no. 510 00:25:59,027 --> 00:26:00,427 Speaker 2: Problem with it. 511 00:25:59,707 --> 00:26:02,707 Speaker 9: I would like referees in men's games. 512 00:26:02,507 --> 00:26:05,107 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to talk about it if we 513 00:26:05,187 --> 00:26:06,747 Speaker 2: first of all talk about the end of them where 514 00:26:06,827 --> 00:26:09,307 Speaker 2: Jake Brummer ran into Casey Rybelt. Are you, first of all, 515 00:26:09,307 --> 00:26:10,867 Speaker 2: I just want to clarify this. Are you saying that 516 00:26:10,907 --> 00:26:13,787 Speaker 2: a male referee wouldn't have got on the way or 517 00:26:13,827 --> 00:26:15,187 Speaker 2: would have called playback. 518 00:26:15,947 --> 00:26:17,947 Speaker 11: I think a male referee would have blant hiss whistles 519 00:26:17,947 --> 00:26:18,427 Speaker 11: straight away. 520 00:26:18,787 --> 00:26:20,747 Speaker 2: You see, that's not the rule though. 521 00:26:21,267 --> 00:26:22,947 Speaker 11: Yeah, I know that's not the rule, but that's the 522 00:26:22,987 --> 00:26:25,147 Speaker 11: way they've been, that's the way it's been refereeing, because 523 00:26:25,147 --> 00:26:27,467 Speaker 11: you would have had any controversy. And I think you've 524 00:26:27,467 --> 00:26:29,587 Speaker 11: got to know that. Yet, you've got to know the rules. Yes, 525 00:26:29,667 --> 00:26:32,187 Speaker 11: to get your referees badge, everyone knows that, but you've 526 00:26:32,227 --> 00:26:32,787 Speaker 11: got to know. 527 00:26:32,707 --> 00:26:33,667 Speaker 8: The game right. 528 00:26:33,707 --> 00:26:36,467 Speaker 11: And women don't play men's football. They never have done 529 00:26:36,667 --> 00:26:39,067 Speaker 11: and they never will do, because it's like if you 530 00:26:39,067 --> 00:26:41,867 Speaker 11: watch men's football and one's football, they're like two different games. 531 00:26:42,067 --> 00:26:44,827 Speaker 11: They really are, and you can't argue with that. The 532 00:26:44,907 --> 00:26:48,227 Speaker 11: fact of the matter is, this is a politically correct 533 00:26:48,227 --> 00:26:49,907 Speaker 11: decision to put a woman in charge of an A 534 00:26:49,947 --> 00:26:51,467 Speaker 11: League game. And it's not just the A League. 535 00:26:51,587 --> 00:26:52,107 Speaker 9: You've seeing that. 536 00:26:52,147 --> 00:26:53,987 Speaker 11: They're trying to bring it in the in the Premier 537 00:26:54,067 --> 00:26:56,827 Speaker 11: League as well. And no matter what actually happens within 538 00:26:56,867 --> 00:26:58,707 Speaker 11: the game, no matter what controversy is in the game, 539 00:26:58,747 --> 00:27:03,307 Speaker 11: I notice, and I'm sounding a lot like Joey Barton 540 00:27:03,387 --> 00:27:06,187 Speaker 11: right now, but the fact of the matter is they 541 00:27:06,387 --> 00:27:09,347 Speaker 11: seem to be above criticism. And I think her first half, 542 00:27:09,667 --> 00:27:12,187 Speaker 11: and okay, I'm an Auckland supporter and I obviously bitter 543 00:27:12,227 --> 00:27:15,667 Speaker 11: about the result, but her first half of that game yesterday, 544 00:27:15,707 --> 00:27:17,347 Speaker 11: and I played fifty eight dollars to go and watch 545 00:27:17,387 --> 00:27:19,227 Speaker 11: that game, so I am one of the fansy on, 546 00:27:19,307 --> 00:27:22,347 Speaker 11: one of the customers. Her first half was atrocious. She 547 00:27:22,467 --> 00:27:24,387 Speaker 11: missed so many things and you wouldn't have noticed that 548 00:27:24,427 --> 00:27:28,067 Speaker 11: unless you're actually pitch stile like I was. And look, 549 00:27:28,187 --> 00:27:30,627 Speaker 11: it's fine for Wistern United to sit back and say 550 00:27:30,627 --> 00:27:33,587 Speaker 11: everything went great and we're happy with everything, but eventually 551 00:27:33,587 --> 00:27:34,787 Speaker 11: the same thing's going to happen to them. 552 00:27:34,787 --> 00:27:35,947 Speaker 9: And I have a major problem with this. 553 00:27:36,027 --> 00:27:37,907 Speaker 11: And people might say this is a misogic point of 554 00:27:37,987 --> 00:27:39,947 Speaker 11: view and all the rest of it. I just don't 555 00:27:39,987 --> 00:27:42,827 Speaker 11: hear any criticism of this sort of referee. Every referee 556 00:27:43,627 --> 00:27:46,947 Speaker 11: gets criticism, and sometimes the worst referee who is consistent 557 00:27:47,067 --> 00:27:49,507 Speaker 11: is better than no referee at all. But in this case, here, 558 00:27:49,547 --> 00:27:51,867 Speaker 11: I just get the feeling that you've got a woman 559 00:27:51,907 --> 00:27:55,067 Speaker 11: referring a game a man's game that she doesn't understand, 560 00:27:55,067 --> 00:27:56,827 Speaker 11: and the reasons she does understand, she has me brought 561 00:27:56,907 --> 00:27:59,227 Speaker 11: up with a men's game. She's never played the men's games, 562 00:27:59,467 --> 00:28:01,707 Speaker 11: and that's where I have a major problem here. Once again, 563 00:28:01,747 --> 00:28:03,987 Speaker 11: I'm not saying all to loss because of that, but 564 00:28:04,027 --> 00:28:04,467 Speaker 11: I'm just. 565 00:28:04,467 --> 00:28:07,907 Speaker 9: Saying this is a point of you that really annoys me. 566 00:28:07,907 --> 00:28:08,827 Speaker 8: As a playing customer. 567 00:28:09,267 --> 00:28:12,547 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I don't think she's enough criticism, not 568 00:28:12,587 --> 00:28:15,547 Speaker 2: yours anyway, Derek. And look, it's a it's a valid 569 00:28:15,667 --> 00:28:18,707 Speaker 2: enough opinion to have. I tend to have a different opinion. 570 00:28:19,467 --> 00:28:22,027 Speaker 2: I watched that game obviously yesterday as well. I thought 571 00:28:22,107 --> 00:28:25,347 Speaker 2: Casey ry Belt let a lot go for both sides. 572 00:28:25,387 --> 00:28:28,427 Speaker 2: Actually I thought Auckland got away with a couple too, 573 00:28:28,907 --> 00:28:31,747 Speaker 2: So clearly she was of the mind of letting the 574 00:28:31,747 --> 00:28:35,547 Speaker 2: game go rather than just whistling every fowl. I don't 575 00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:38,867 Speaker 2: think she is above criticism. There will always be a 576 00:28:38,907 --> 00:28:43,187 Speaker 2: point of view that you've raised, Derek, that a woman 577 00:28:43,227 --> 00:28:47,627 Speaker 2: official can never understand intrinsically what happens in a men's game. 578 00:28:48,067 --> 00:28:50,307 Speaker 2: I guess you'd offer the counterpoint, why then do we 579 00:28:50,347 --> 00:28:56,427 Speaker 2: have male referees in women's games. Always good to chat 580 00:28:56,427 --> 00:28:58,907 Speaker 2: to you, mate, Oh eight hundred eighty ten twenty four 581 00:28:58,907 --> 00:29:00,787 Speaker 2: away from one. We're back after this on News talks 582 00:29:00,787 --> 00:29:03,547 Speaker 2: hedb the Voice of Sport. 583 00:29:03,387 --> 00:29:08,587 Speaker 1: On your Home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason GJ Gunnos, 584 00:29:08,907 --> 00:29:11,627 Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted oh Builder News Dogs'd be. 585 00:29:12,307 --> 00:29:13,947 Speaker 2: Twenty one away from one line is open up eight 586 00:29:14,067 --> 00:29:17,347 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. Harry says that third goal 587 00:29:17,507 --> 00:29:20,267 Speaker 2: was questionable, but Auckland FC weren't up to it, to 588 00:29:20,267 --> 00:29:23,147 Speaker 2: be honest, missed a lot of chances. Yea, Harry, thanks 589 00:29:23,147 --> 00:29:25,907 Speaker 2: for your call mate, I'm or your text. The stats 590 00:29:25,947 --> 00:29:28,707 Speaker 2: were really telling Auckland this Sea had way more of 591 00:29:28,747 --> 00:29:32,267 Speaker 2: the ball but just weren't able to create any opportunities. 592 00:29:32,627 --> 00:29:38,667 Speaker 2: Western United had far fewer periods of possession or far 593 00:29:38,867 --> 00:29:41,747 Speaker 2: they had far less possession percentage wise. I think at 594 00:29:41,787 --> 00:29:43,587 Speaker 2: one stage it was about two thirds to a third, 595 00:29:43,787 --> 00:29:48,147 Speaker 2: and yet they were creating a lot of chances. Hope 596 00:29:48,187 --> 00:29:49,867 Speaker 2: you talk about the Knicks seas Hamish They've got a 597 00:29:49,907 --> 00:29:52,267 Speaker 2: game today as well, Yes, and d Hamish. Yeah. We 598 00:29:52,707 --> 00:29:55,947 Speaker 2: touched on it with Jacob and from who is this from? 599 00:29:56,467 --> 00:30:00,667 Speaker 2: From George? Why didn't you work the Wellington Phoenix game yesterday? Piney? 600 00:30:00,667 --> 00:30:01,707 Speaker 2: Are you an Auckland supporter? 601 00:30:01,787 --> 00:30:01,947 Speaker 9: Now? 602 00:30:02,067 --> 00:30:05,507 Speaker 2: I don't I get assigned to these games. I don't 603 00:30:05,587 --> 00:30:09,107 Speaker 2: choose the ones that I get to do. Anyway, moving on, 604 00:30:09,147 --> 00:30:11,467 Speaker 2: says George, It's going to be interesting to see how 605 00:30:11,467 --> 00:30:13,467 Speaker 2: Auckland respond to their first loss. They're away to Central 606 00:30:13,507 --> 00:30:16,067 Speaker 2: Coast next weekend. Normally that would be a hard game, 607 00:30:16,107 --> 00:30:18,227 Speaker 2: but they're not the team they were four seasons ago 608 00:30:18,267 --> 00:30:20,427 Speaker 2: either with all the players that I've lost, So Auckland 609 00:30:20,467 --> 00:30:22,587 Speaker 2: should come away with the three points. Merry Christmas is 610 00:30:22,707 --> 00:30:26,827 Speaker 2: George and Liverpool to beat Spurs five mil tomorrow? Goodness me, 611 00:30:27,547 --> 00:30:31,667 Speaker 2: well that would certainly be a nice Christmas present, wouldn't it. Steven? 612 00:30:31,707 --> 00:30:35,667 Speaker 12: Hello, Yeah, good afternoon, Jason and Meer Christmas to you 613 00:30:35,747 --> 00:30:38,227 Speaker 12: and your family and also to your wonderful listeners out there. 614 00:30:39,747 --> 00:30:42,227 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you and your family. Stephen, have you 615 00:30:42,267 --> 00:30:44,067 Speaker 2: got God? So what have you got planned for the 616 00:30:44,147 --> 00:30:44,867 Speaker 2: next few days? 617 00:30:45,787 --> 00:30:45,987 Speaker 13: Well? 618 00:30:46,027 --> 00:30:47,587 Speaker 12: I just want to lead, you know, firs. Can I 619 00:30:47,627 --> 00:30:52,147 Speaker 12: believe see you share my highlight of the year? Firstly, yes, 620 00:30:53,387 --> 00:30:56,187 Speaker 12: I just want to share my highlight. My personal highlight 621 00:30:56,307 --> 00:31:00,147 Speaker 12: is really my personal highlight, and I'm now in the 622 00:31:00,227 --> 00:31:04,067 Speaker 12: fifty club and thanks to that, Dom and JJ are 623 00:31:04,107 --> 00:31:06,987 Speaker 12: going to be taking me over to our way to USA. 624 00:31:07,027 --> 00:31:10,027 Speaker 12: To watch an NBA game over in America and I'm 625 00:31:10,067 --> 00:31:13,507 Speaker 12: leaving in Dunedin on January to twenty first, and the 626 00:31:13,627 --> 00:31:16,147 Speaker 12: NBA game game I'm going to is going to be 627 00:31:16,227 --> 00:31:19,467 Speaker 12: happening as the Lakers playing the Boston Celtics. 628 00:31:19,867 --> 00:31:23,227 Speaker 2: Ah, what a game, Stephen, what a game it is. 629 00:31:23,867 --> 00:31:25,187 Speaker 12: It is a game, and that's the game of a 630 00:31:25,267 --> 00:31:27,587 Speaker 12: tribble lifetime and everything, because I was hoping to go 631 00:31:27,627 --> 00:31:30,947 Speaker 12: to that game because Jeff what Jason, I'm trying. I'm 632 00:31:30,987 --> 00:31:33,667 Speaker 12: going to try and meeting Green and Kingham, Sauth Lebron 633 00:31:33,827 --> 00:31:36,147 Speaker 12: James and everything. So that is going to be mine 634 00:31:36,187 --> 00:31:38,187 Speaker 12: and that's my highlight on mess. I'm in the fifty 635 00:31:38,227 --> 00:31:40,707 Speaker 12: time now and thanks to everyone who's supported I give 636 00:31:40,747 --> 00:31:41,467 Speaker 12: a little piece. 637 00:31:41,307 --> 00:31:43,987 Speaker 14: That JJ setups. And then so dim andd JJ are 638 00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:47,547 Speaker 14: going to be taking ome over and January to USA 639 00:31:47,627 --> 00:31:49,547 Speaker 14: to watch an NBA game and also I'm going to 640 00:31:49,587 --> 00:31:51,507 Speaker 14: Disney there predating it as well. 641 00:31:52,147 --> 00:31:54,787 Speaker 2: Amazing, Stephen, you almost didn't get that out. You almost 642 00:31:54,827 --> 00:31:56,547 Speaker 2: didn't get all of that out. Look, I think it'll 643 00:31:56,587 --> 00:31:58,427 Speaker 2: be an amazing trip for you, mate. I hope you 644 00:31:58,507 --> 00:32:02,227 Speaker 2: have a tremendous time. Take lots of photos, create lots 645 00:32:02,267 --> 00:32:05,067 Speaker 2: of memories. It's been good tending to. Now before you go, 646 00:32:05,307 --> 00:32:07,547 Speaker 2: how do you predict the Highlanders will go next year? 647 00:32:09,227 --> 00:32:11,667 Speaker 12: Well, I just think that Jamie Joseph will get them 648 00:32:11,667 --> 00:32:14,027 Speaker 12: all stepped up once again for another gum year ahead. 649 00:32:14,547 --> 00:32:18,187 Speaker 12: And I'm just thinking that hopefully they will qualify for 650 00:32:18,267 --> 00:32:21,947 Speaker 12: the playoffs this year and everything instead of this next year. 651 00:32:22,067 --> 00:32:23,627 Speaker 12: And hopefully it's going to be a good year in 652 00:32:23,627 --> 00:32:26,987 Speaker 12: twenty twenty five for the Islanders and of course the Nuggets, 653 00:32:26,987 --> 00:32:28,467 Speaker 12: of course, because we're the Nuggets. 654 00:32:28,507 --> 00:32:30,267 Speaker 14: Also looking for our new coach as well. 655 00:32:30,547 --> 00:32:33,747 Speaker 12: I say as well, Jason, but can I please always, 656 00:32:33,787 --> 00:32:36,187 Speaker 12: can I please always in on a Christmas cow that 657 00:32:36,227 --> 00:32:36,787 Speaker 12: I always. 658 00:32:36,587 --> 00:32:37,667 Speaker 14: Like to sing to everybody? 659 00:32:38,307 --> 00:32:41,227 Speaker 2: Go on, then, Stephen, go on, and this. 660 00:32:41,267 --> 00:32:43,227 Speaker 14: Is going to you as well, Jason, into your family 661 00:32:43,267 --> 00:32:43,627 Speaker 14: as well. 662 00:32:44,027 --> 00:32:48,427 Speaker 13: Were we were sure merry Christmas, we were sure a 663 00:32:48,587 --> 00:32:53,307 Speaker 13: merry Christmas. We were sure merry Christmas and a happy 664 00:32:53,547 --> 00:32:54,107 Speaker 13: New Year. 665 00:32:55,587 --> 00:32:59,027 Speaker 2: You're an absolute diamond, Stephen, an absolute diamond, my friend. 666 00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:02,187 Speaker 2: You have a great Christmas too, ever, superb trip Overseas, 667 00:33:02,547 --> 00:33:04,427 Speaker 2: good to chat DM mat, great to hear your voice 668 00:33:04,867 --> 00:33:07,627 Speaker 2: seventeen away from one. Just back to the football briefly, 669 00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:10,227 Speaker 2: here's Steve Coricker after the game yesterday. He's the Auckland 670 00:33:10,347 --> 00:33:13,587 Speaker 2: FC coach on well, first of all, his initial thoughts 671 00:33:13,627 --> 00:33:15,867 Speaker 2: on the game obviously disappointing. 672 00:33:16,707 --> 00:33:17,787 Speaker 15: Wasn't what we expected. 673 00:33:18,627 --> 00:33:24,587 Speaker 16: The first half was well, it was terrible. Let's face it, 674 00:33:25,787 --> 00:33:28,347 Speaker 16: boys didn't turn up for the first half and you 675 00:33:28,427 --> 00:33:29,987 Speaker 16: can't allow a good team by that. 676 00:33:32,507 --> 00:33:33,507 Speaker 15: Moments in games. 677 00:33:33,587 --> 00:33:35,227 Speaker 17: And we didn't compete, We didn't win the. 678 00:33:35,147 --> 00:33:38,187 Speaker 16: Second ball and that's what got us in trouble in 679 00:33:38,227 --> 00:33:41,267 Speaker 16: the first place, as a long way back from three 680 00:33:41,347 --> 00:33:42,507 Speaker 16: nil down at half time. 681 00:33:42,667 --> 00:33:44,867 Speaker 2: So what did Steve Coricker think? They were so flat, 682 00:33:44,987 --> 00:33:46,507 Speaker 2: so off in the first half. 683 00:33:46,667 --> 00:33:50,427 Speaker 16: Maybe a little bit of complacency settled in there. They 684 00:33:50,427 --> 00:33:53,067 Speaker 16: think they don't have to do the basic work that 685 00:33:53,107 --> 00:33:59,427 Speaker 16: we expect from him. And yeah, if you're going to 686 00:33:59,467 --> 00:34:01,667 Speaker 16: do that, I guess the good team you know they're 687 00:34:01,667 --> 00:34:03,587 Speaker 16: going to punish it. Last week, I don't think we 688 00:34:03,587 --> 00:34:06,027 Speaker 16: were great in the first half either, and it was 689 00:34:06,027 --> 00:34:08,667 Speaker 16: only nil at the time, so we had opportunities to 690 00:34:08,707 --> 00:34:10,467 Speaker 16: come back into the game and three nil you don't 691 00:34:10,467 --> 00:34:13,107 Speaker 16: get opportunities to come into the game, even though we 692 00:34:13,267 --> 00:34:16,507 Speaker 16: created a lot of chances in the second half. 693 00:34:16,987 --> 00:34:18,667 Speaker 15: You know, we were just off. 694 00:34:18,747 --> 00:34:21,587 Speaker 16: You know, you can see it was one or two 695 00:34:21,587 --> 00:34:22,547 Speaker 16: players off was. 696 00:34:22,507 --> 00:34:26,627 Speaker 2: Basically nineteen Steve Caracap, coach of Auckland FC, sixteen away 697 00:34:26,627 --> 00:34:30,427 Speaker 2: from one. The Fury Usik fight is done, all done. 698 00:34:30,707 --> 00:34:34,027 Speaker 2: Chris Reeve, our combat sports expert from NZ Herald dot co, 699 00:34:34,067 --> 00:34:36,587 Speaker 2: dot MZ and the New Zealand Herald newspaper, is going 700 00:34:36,627 --> 00:34:38,507 Speaker 2: to join us with a rap of that very shortly 701 00:34:38,547 --> 00:34:41,027 Speaker 2: on Weekend Sport The. 702 00:34:40,907 --> 00:34:44,467 Speaker 1: Big Issues on and after Fields Call oh eight hundred 703 00:34:44,467 --> 00:34:47,987 Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason Fine and GJ. 704 00:34:48,147 --> 00:34:52,507 Speaker 1: Gunner Homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talk Baby. 705 00:34:52,427 --> 00:34:56,427 Speaker 2: Twelve forty seven. Alexander Ussik has defeated Tyson Fury by 706 00:34:56,627 --> 00:35:00,187 Speaker 2: unanimous decision in the home of Boxing, Saudi Arabia to 707 00:35:00,227 --> 00:35:03,787 Speaker 2: remain the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion of the world. The 708 00:35:03,867 --> 00:35:06,347 Speaker 2: judges all scored the contest one sixteen one to twelve 709 00:35:06,547 --> 00:35:10,707 Speaker 2: in favor of the Ukrainian multi talented multi media journalist 710 00:35:10,987 --> 00:35:13,947 Speaker 2: with the New Zealand Herald, Christopher Reeve was live blogging 711 00:35:13,987 --> 00:35:16,747 Speaker 2: the fight. He joins us, now do you agree with 712 00:35:16,787 --> 00:35:17,347 Speaker 2: the judges? 713 00:35:17,907 --> 00:35:20,307 Speaker 18: I do to the fact that. I also scored it 714 00:35:20,387 --> 00:35:23,067 Speaker 18: one sixteen, one twelve to Usak, So that's always a 715 00:35:23,107 --> 00:35:26,307 Speaker 18: good confidence booster when your score in a fight that 716 00:35:26,347 --> 00:35:27,427 Speaker 18: the judges had it as well. 717 00:35:28,107 --> 00:35:30,027 Speaker 2: Who was favorite? Was Usik favorite going in? 718 00:35:30,227 --> 00:35:30,387 Speaker 9: Yeah? 719 00:35:30,507 --> 00:35:34,107 Speaker 18: Usik was the favorite going in. I think largely because 720 00:35:34,147 --> 00:35:36,707 Speaker 18: of the fact he beat Fury last time and had 721 00:35:36,787 --> 00:35:39,587 Speaker 18: him in trouble at times. A lot of people kind 722 00:35:39,587 --> 00:35:42,027 Speaker 18: of saw that, you know, he's a very very good 723 00:35:42,027 --> 00:35:44,747 Speaker 18: fighter and could give Fury a lot of troubles. So 724 00:35:44,787 --> 00:35:46,907 Speaker 18: I think there were a lot of backers for Usak 725 00:35:46,987 --> 00:35:47,387 Speaker 18: to win. 726 00:35:47,267 --> 00:35:50,387 Speaker 2: This on so it went, it went, the distance, went 727 00:35:50,427 --> 00:35:53,987 Speaker 2: the twelve rounds. Did it ever look as though Tyson 728 00:35:54,067 --> 00:35:58,187 Speaker 2: Fury was ahead in the fight, or conversely that he 729 00:35:58,267 --> 00:35:59,947 Speaker 2: might knock Usik out. 730 00:36:00,587 --> 00:36:03,307 Speaker 18: I don't think Usk was ever in trouble of being 731 00:36:03,387 --> 00:36:07,307 Speaker 18: knocked out. Fury wasn't really stringing enough combinations together. He 732 00:36:07,387 --> 00:36:10,027 Speaker 18: was sort of looking for one shot at a time. 733 00:36:10,107 --> 00:36:11,907 Speaker 18: He did a lot of work with his jab early, 734 00:36:11,987 --> 00:36:14,467 Speaker 18: but then as Usik found his way into the fight, 735 00:36:14,587 --> 00:36:17,427 Speaker 18: Fury fought a lot on the back foot, which is 736 00:36:17,467 --> 00:36:20,307 Speaker 18: not ideal for the guy who's coming bigger. He's got 737 00:36:20,307 --> 00:36:23,067 Speaker 18: the longer reach, you'd kind of expect him to try 738 00:36:23,107 --> 00:36:25,467 Speaker 18: and I guess muscle his way into the fight, but 739 00:36:25,587 --> 00:36:27,787 Speaker 18: Usk did well to keep him at bay. I had 740 00:36:27,827 --> 00:36:30,907 Speaker 18: Fury up quite early on, but kind of from the 741 00:36:30,947 --> 00:36:33,987 Speaker 18: fourth round, Usk started to take over and then the 742 00:36:34,027 --> 00:36:36,867 Speaker 18: middle rounds started doing what they did last time, Usik 743 00:36:36,947 --> 00:36:39,907 Speaker 18: just finding the target kind of at well. Fury did 744 00:36:40,027 --> 00:36:43,987 Speaker 18: come back quite strong, but yeah, Usk just overwhelmed him 745 00:36:44,027 --> 00:36:48,027 Speaker 18: in the end. Did Usik ever look like knocking Fury out? 746 00:36:48,547 --> 00:36:50,907 Speaker 18: Not quite as much as in the last fight. There 747 00:36:50,907 --> 00:36:53,787 Speaker 18: were some times where he was landing some really good 748 00:36:53,827 --> 00:36:56,187 Speaker 18: shots and looked like he might have had Fury a 749 00:36:56,227 --> 00:36:58,667 Speaker 18: little bit wobbled or a little bit stunned, but he 750 00:36:58,747 --> 00:37:01,667 Speaker 18: never really went chasing in those moments. He kind of 751 00:37:01,747 --> 00:37:05,667 Speaker 18: just took his time, picked his shots, and yeah, never 752 00:37:06,027 --> 00:37:09,147 Speaker 18: really applied the pressure to I guess capitalize on some 753 00:37:09,187 --> 00:37:10,587 Speaker 18: of those moments, all. 754 00:37:10,547 --> 00:37:13,467 Speaker 2: Right, So put this into context for us Chris for 755 00:37:13,507 --> 00:37:16,547 Speaker 2: those who don't necessarily understand the alphabet soup that is 756 00:37:17,067 --> 00:37:20,907 Speaker 2: that is world boxing titles. So what does this mean 757 00:37:20,947 --> 00:37:21,907 Speaker 2: for each of these two? 758 00:37:21,987 --> 00:37:22,227 Speaker 17: Now? 759 00:37:22,907 --> 00:37:26,907 Speaker 18: So that just means Usk is now the unif well 760 00:37:27,027 --> 00:37:30,907 Speaker 18: still the unified heavyweight champion, not undisputed because he did 761 00:37:30,947 --> 00:37:33,187 Speaker 18: have to give up the IBF title to take this 762 00:37:33,227 --> 00:37:39,027 Speaker 18: fight against Tyson Fury. Tyson Fury now again no belts 763 00:37:39,067 --> 00:37:41,507 Speaker 18: to his name. It'll be interesting to see what he 764 00:37:41,507 --> 00:37:44,107 Speaker 18: does next, whether he decides to call it a day 765 00:37:44,187 --> 00:37:45,907 Speaker 18: or whether he stays around. 766 00:37:46,827 --> 00:37:48,587 Speaker 2: What motivation would he have to stay around? 767 00:37:48,707 --> 00:37:51,387 Speaker 18: Yeah, I don't know. I can't imagine. Money's a big one. 768 00:37:52,147 --> 00:37:55,187 Speaker 18: Usak's got all but one of the titles, and that 769 00:37:55,267 --> 00:37:57,027 Speaker 18: title looks like it's going to be locked up for 770 00:37:57,067 --> 00:37:59,707 Speaker 18: a little while. Danny Dubois holds it at the moment, 771 00:37:59,867 --> 00:38:02,347 Speaker 18: He's meant to be fighting Joseph Parker early next year. 772 00:38:02,867 --> 00:38:06,747 Speaker 18: The winner of that fight probably fights Usak next. Yeah, 773 00:38:06,987 --> 00:38:09,307 Speaker 18: I'm really not sure where Tyson Fury goes from here. 774 00:38:09,747 --> 00:38:13,627 Speaker 18: So is that Joseph Parker fight not confirmed? I'm not 775 00:38:13,667 --> 00:38:16,187 Speaker 18: one hundred percent sure. The way Daniel Dubois was talking 776 00:38:16,227 --> 00:38:19,227 Speaker 18: about it in the ring, he's gone into the ring 777 00:38:19,267 --> 00:38:23,667 Speaker 18: and asked Alexander Usik for a fight. To my understanding, 778 00:38:23,747 --> 00:38:28,107 Speaker 18: it's confirmed. Okay, who knows in boxing? No, that's really 779 00:38:28,187 --> 00:38:30,587 Speaker 18: thinks to happen, that's right. I mean, we'd like to 780 00:38:30,587 --> 00:38:33,307 Speaker 18: see Joe back out there. What's his what what do 781 00:38:33,387 --> 00:38:35,987 Speaker 18: you predict for him? And you know in the remainder 782 00:38:36,027 --> 00:38:39,507 Speaker 18: of his boxing career, Well, Joseph's still quite young, so 783 00:38:40,387 --> 00:38:43,387 Speaker 18: it's quite exciting to see just how he's managed to 784 00:38:43,867 --> 00:38:46,387 Speaker 18: build his way back into this position he's at now. 785 00:38:46,427 --> 00:38:49,347 Speaker 18: He's bought, He's fought two really tough opponents in his 786 00:38:49,427 --> 00:38:53,147 Speaker 18: last ones. Daniel Dubois is another kind of heavy puncher 787 00:38:53,307 --> 00:38:57,987 Speaker 18: that is gonna test Joe's chin at times. And yeah, 788 00:38:58,307 --> 00:39:00,787 Speaker 18: I think Joe's still got plenty in the tank and 789 00:39:00,987 --> 00:39:03,547 Speaker 18: I'm really looking forward to that fight against Daniel Duboire. 790 00:39:03,667 --> 00:39:06,947 Speaker 18: It should be a really really interesting one. And just Usik, 791 00:39:07,147 --> 00:39:09,387 Speaker 18: he's he's kind of a good fighter, isn't. He's got 792 00:39:09,427 --> 00:39:12,307 Speaker 18: a good record, He's up there with the best twenty 793 00:39:12,307 --> 00:39:14,467 Speaker 18: three and Ozero as a pro. Now he's an Olympic 794 00:39:14,507 --> 00:39:19,907 Speaker 18: gold medalist, undisputed cruiserweight champion, undisputed heavyweight champion. I mean, 795 00:39:20,307 --> 00:39:23,547 Speaker 18: he's really one of the greats. Thanks for stopping in 796 00:39:23,587 --> 00:39:25,667 Speaker 18: and giving us the analysis, Chris. I know you've been 797 00:39:25,707 --> 00:39:26,667 Speaker 18: busy blogging away. 798 00:39:26,707 --> 00:39:28,547 Speaker 2: You've probably got analysis to right now, so thanks for 799 00:39:28,587 --> 00:39:31,067 Speaker 2: fitting us into your busy Sunday afternoon schedule. 800 00:39:31,107 --> 00:39:32,747 Speaker 18: Mate, anytime, mate, anytime. 801 00:39:33,107 --> 00:39:36,467 Speaker 2: Christopher Reeve read him at inzed Herald dot co dot zed. 802 00:39:37,227 --> 00:39:39,507 Speaker 2: A combat sports expert, also an expert on a number 803 00:39:39,507 --> 00:39:43,107 Speaker 2: of things, sailing, cricket, rugby, you name it, but you 804 00:39:43,107 --> 00:39:46,787 Speaker 2: can read his latest analysis of this fight at Inziedherld 805 00:39:46,827 --> 00:39:49,787 Speaker 2: dot co dot zed. Just to recap that for you. 806 00:39:49,827 --> 00:39:54,227 Speaker 2: Alexander Usik has beaten Tyson Fury by unanimous decision to 807 00:39:54,307 --> 00:39:57,147 Speaker 2: remain the undisputed heavyweight boxing champion of the world. The 808 00:39:57,227 --> 00:40:00,307 Speaker 2: judges all scored the contest one sixteen, one twelve in 809 00:40:00,347 --> 00:40:03,307 Speaker 2: his favor. Both fighters traded blows throughout the fight, but 810 00:40:03,427 --> 00:40:05,347 Speaker 2: neither was able to drop the other. That went the 811 00:40:05,347 --> 00:40:09,187 Speaker 2: distance and USA the winner by unanimous decision seven and 812 00:40:09,187 --> 00:40:10,547 Speaker 2: a half to one. U s Talks EP. 813 00:40:11,027 --> 00:40:14,707 Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World 814 00:40:14,907 --> 00:40:18,947 Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason five call eight and eighty eight 815 00:40:19,227 --> 00:40:20,067 Speaker 1: US Talks. 816 00:40:19,827 --> 00:40:23,307 Speaker 2: MB four to one. Just been reminded not to forget 817 00:40:23,347 --> 00:40:27,387 Speaker 2: the Phoenix women who yesterday achieved a win over Sydney 818 00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:30,427 Speaker 2: FC two nil, four games unbeaten. That is a club record, 819 00:40:30,707 --> 00:40:33,907 Speaker 2: a club record fourth unbeaten game for Paul Temple's team. 820 00:40:34,627 --> 00:40:36,987 Speaker 2: It was a strange old game out at Pottido, mainly 821 00:40:37,067 --> 00:40:40,707 Speaker 2: because they had a forty five minute break because of 822 00:40:40,827 --> 00:40:44,187 Speaker 2: lightning strikes or the threat of them. It was a 823 00:40:44,267 --> 00:40:47,387 Speaker 2: thunderstorm in Wellington sort of mid to late afternoon yesterday 824 00:40:47,827 --> 00:40:49,227 Speaker 2: and so when they went off a half time they 825 00:40:49,307 --> 00:40:51,867 Speaker 2: ended up they ended up being offered about forty five minutes. 826 00:40:52,427 --> 00:40:54,347 Speaker 2: Paul Temple, the coach, said, we just watched the first 827 00:40:54,387 --> 00:40:57,067 Speaker 2: half back just to see what we were doing right 828 00:40:57,547 --> 00:40:59,987 Speaker 2: and what we weren't doing right. Well, obviously work They 829 00:41:00,027 --> 00:41:02,427 Speaker 2: got back out there a bit later than scheduled and 830 00:41:02,427 --> 00:41:04,947 Speaker 2: won the match to nil. Grace Jarlay with her first 831 00:41:05,027 --> 00:41:08,827 Speaker 2: goal of the season and Zoe mcmeekon with her first 832 00:41:08,907 --> 00:41:11,307 Speaker 2: A league goal laid in the piece. So two nil 833 00:41:11,507 --> 00:41:14,187 Speaker 2: to the Wellington Phoenix women who've moved themselves up into 834 00:41:14,227 --> 00:41:17,107 Speaker 2: the top six off the back of a good string 835 00:41:17,267 --> 00:41:20,707 Speaker 2: of results. Well done to them. After one o'clock, we're 836 00:41:20,747 --> 00:41:22,947 Speaker 2: in the White Fans Camp seen bowl of Molly Penfoult 837 00:41:23,067 --> 00:41:23,587 Speaker 2: leads us off. 838 00:41:24,347 --> 00:41:28,387 Speaker 1: True the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues 839 00:41:28,547 --> 00:41:30,227 Speaker 1: on and after fields. 840 00:41:30,747 --> 00:41:32,187 Speaker 15: It's all on Weekend. 841 00:41:31,947 --> 00:41:35,507 Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vane on your home of Sport. 842 00:41:36,587 --> 00:41:40,307 Speaker 2: New York one o seven. Hello, this is Weekend sport 843 00:41:40,347 --> 00:41:42,467 Speaker 2: On News Talks. Heb for the final time before Christmas. 844 00:41:42,547 --> 00:41:46,147 Speaker 2: We are carrying on though. Weekend Sport will continue right 845 00:41:46,227 --> 00:41:50,427 Speaker 2: through the Christmas New Year holiday festive period. Plenty of 846 00:41:50,507 --> 00:41:52,907 Speaker 2: sport On will continue to talk it with you every 847 00:41:52,947 --> 00:41:56,467 Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday between midday and three. It's the time 848 00:41:56,547 --> 00:41:58,707 Speaker 2: of year when every day feels like a Saturday and 849 00:41:58,787 --> 00:42:02,307 Speaker 2: a Sunday. Rarely, but on the actual Saturdays and Sundays. 850 00:42:02,427 --> 00:42:05,427 Speaker 2: Over the next little while, we'll continue to talk sport 851 00:42:05,547 --> 00:42:10,947 Speaker 2: with you. Gary says Piney. Highlight of the year. Your 852 00:42:11,107 --> 00:42:15,067 Speaker 2: last caller, Stephen, What a legend, so much passion and enthusiasm, 853 00:42:15,147 --> 00:42:16,547 Speaker 2: so good to hear. Yeah, it was great to have 854 00:42:16,987 --> 00:42:20,147 Speaker 2: Steven on probably the last time this year singing us 855 00:42:20,147 --> 00:42:23,587 Speaker 2: at Christmas Carol to go out with our lines remain 856 00:42:23,627 --> 00:42:25,627 Speaker 2: open right across the afternoon on our eight hundred and 857 00:42:25,627 --> 00:42:28,107 Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. Anything that catches your ear, anything you 858 00:42:28,187 --> 00:42:32,187 Speaker 2: want to comment on. We've got some basketball coming up 859 00:42:32,227 --> 00:42:36,587 Speaker 2: this hour, the Toweyha Basketball Old Tootoa Final three o'clock 860 00:42:36,667 --> 00:42:39,747 Speaker 2: this afternoon Todonga. It's the home side, the todong A 861 00:42:39,827 --> 00:42:43,707 Speaker 2: FI in their first final up against the Toquamana were queens. 862 00:42:43,787 --> 00:42:47,067 Speaker 2: They're in their third straight final and the competition's only 863 00:42:47,147 --> 00:42:49,467 Speaker 2: been going for three years, so they've won. They've got 864 00:42:49,747 --> 00:42:51,307 Speaker 2: their way through to the final every year. They won 865 00:42:51,347 --> 00:42:53,907 Speaker 2: it in twenty twenty two and lost last year back 866 00:42:53,947 --> 00:42:57,667 Speaker 2: in a third final. Justin Nilson is a driving force 867 00:42:57,707 --> 00:43:00,547 Speaker 2: behind this league and one of these Skysport commentary team. 868 00:43:00,827 --> 00:43:03,947 Speaker 2: He's going to preview the final for us and talk 869 00:43:04,027 --> 00:43:06,947 Speaker 2: of it about the growth and development of this league. 870 00:43:07,707 --> 00:43:12,227 Speaker 2: James mccony this hour as well handing out some awards 871 00:43:12,307 --> 00:43:14,027 Speaker 2: by the sounds of things, So we look forward to 872 00:43:14,107 --> 00:43:17,667 Speaker 2: James mcconey in his regular slot at around about one 873 00:43:18,467 --> 00:43:20,507 Speaker 2: one forty five or so. But we start this hour 874 00:43:20,547 --> 00:43:23,347 Speaker 2: with cricket. The White Ferns have lost a rain hit 875 00:43:23,667 --> 00:43:27,427 Speaker 2: second Rose Bowl One Day Cricket International against Australia at 876 00:43:27,427 --> 00:43:31,787 Speaker 2: the Basin Reserve under the DLS method, chasing two hundred 877 00:43:31,827 --> 00:43:34,347 Speaker 2: and ninety two for victory in Wellington yesterday, New Zealand 878 00:43:34,347 --> 00:43:37,307 Speaker 2: one twenty two for five in the thirty first over 879 00:43:37,427 --> 00:43:39,747 Speaker 2: when the rain set in. The star though for New 880 00:43:39,827 --> 00:43:42,787 Speaker 2: Zealand was seen bowl of Molly Penfold, her best ever 881 00:43:42,987 --> 00:43:46,667 Speaker 2: One Day International figures of four for forty two. Penfold 882 00:43:46,747 --> 00:43:48,107 Speaker 2: jobs at shot taken. 883 00:43:48,587 --> 00:43:53,347 Speaker 3: Kurt takes the cats big wicket unlessa helly couldn't resist. 884 00:43:53,467 --> 00:43:56,107 Speaker 7: She had a swing, it never really got to her. 885 00:43:57,107 --> 00:43:59,627 Speaker 2: And gets her and is the pace and bounced that. 886 00:43:59,707 --> 00:44:01,227 Speaker 2: Molly Penfold offers. 887 00:44:05,267 --> 00:44:09,427 Speaker 11: Excellent comeback delivery boundary the fool before and then we're 888 00:44:09,667 --> 00:44:10,507 Speaker 11: ripping off the link. 889 00:44:10,627 --> 00:44:12,507 Speaker 15: Takes the gloves of Elise Parry and. 890 00:44:12,627 --> 00:44:18,387 Speaker 2: It is a long walk back for her father. Molly 891 00:44:18,467 --> 00:44:23,027 Speaker 2: Penfold has four Salia mccragos four for forty two for 892 00:44:23,147 --> 00:44:25,387 Speaker 2: Molly Penfold, who joins us. Now you've given it the 893 00:44:25,427 --> 00:44:28,747 Speaker 2: overnight test, I guess, Molly, in general terms, before we 894 00:44:28,827 --> 00:44:31,627 Speaker 2: talk about your bowling specifically, how do you reflect on 895 00:44:31,747 --> 00:44:33,867 Speaker 2: the eighty odd overs that played out yesterday? 896 00:44:35,027 --> 00:44:37,147 Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, first, it was nice, nice to actually 897 00:44:37,187 --> 00:44:40,827 Speaker 19: get a game and or start and saying that, so, 898 00:44:40,947 --> 00:44:42,667 Speaker 19: it was nice to get on the field with the girls. 899 00:44:43,187 --> 00:44:46,467 Speaker 19: Always nice to you know, take the field with the great, 900 00:44:46,787 --> 00:44:49,307 Speaker 19: great bunch of girls there, so you know, who have 901 00:44:49,347 --> 00:44:52,587 Speaker 19: a huge amount of talent. And yeah, when you were 902 00:44:52,627 --> 00:44:55,747 Speaker 19: coming up, you know, against the world's best, so we 903 00:44:55,827 --> 00:44:58,987 Speaker 19: knew we had to put out a good performance. Unfortunately, 904 00:44:58,987 --> 00:45:01,507 Speaker 19: we couldn't get across the line. But yeah, let's just 905 00:45:01,587 --> 00:45:03,747 Speaker 19: cricket sometimes. And we've done our review this morning, so 906 00:45:03,827 --> 00:45:06,267 Speaker 19: we know what we need to do and then say 907 00:45:06,467 --> 00:45:08,987 Speaker 19: that we know the skills there and the knowledge is there, 908 00:45:09,027 --> 00:45:10,467 Speaker 19: it's just about how we execute the day. 909 00:45:10,867 --> 00:45:13,747 Speaker 2: What were the main things that today's review threw up. 910 00:45:15,867 --> 00:45:18,467 Speaker 19: From a bowling point of view, We were more talking 911 00:45:18,507 --> 00:45:21,027 Speaker 19: about how we can just execute for longer really, you know, 912 00:45:21,107 --> 00:45:23,267 Speaker 19: in the one day format. You know, we've had a 913 00:45:23,307 --> 00:45:25,027 Speaker 19: lot of T twenty crickets are going into the one 914 00:45:25,107 --> 00:45:28,387 Speaker 19: day stuff. It's just about doing those good things for longer. 915 00:45:29,467 --> 00:45:31,547 Speaker 19: And for me personally, it's just having a clear plan 916 00:45:32,707 --> 00:45:34,987 Speaker 19: and just simplicity around. You know, what I want to 917 00:45:35,027 --> 00:45:37,707 Speaker 19: do when I want to execute, and yeah, it's just 918 00:45:37,747 --> 00:45:38,707 Speaker 19: trying to execute on the day. 919 00:45:39,067 --> 00:45:42,427 Speaker 2: Well, you executed yesterday pretty well four for forty two 920 00:45:43,187 --> 00:45:45,907 Speaker 2: in general terms. How happy were you with the way 921 00:45:45,947 --> 00:45:46,747 Speaker 2: you bowled yesterday? 922 00:45:48,147 --> 00:45:48,347 Speaker 13: Yeah? 923 00:45:48,387 --> 00:45:51,147 Speaker 19: I was was very happy with how I went esterday. 924 00:45:51,867 --> 00:45:55,507 Speaker 19: Probably didn't start the best, but managed to bring it 925 00:45:55,547 --> 00:45:58,867 Speaker 19: back in the middle phase of the game there. So yeah, 926 00:45:58,907 --> 00:46:00,667 Speaker 19: it was nice to get a few work ats under 927 00:46:00,707 --> 00:46:02,707 Speaker 19: the belt, that's for sure. And you know, I'm always 928 00:46:02,747 --> 00:46:05,267 Speaker 19: pushing to make the playing eleven for the one day 929 00:46:05,347 --> 00:46:09,947 Speaker 19: side as well, because consistency and the in the game 930 00:46:10,027 --> 00:46:12,587 Speaker 19: time is you know key for bowlers, you know, trying 931 00:46:12,587 --> 00:46:16,067 Speaker 19: to find the rhythm and stuff, and yeah, pushing, pushing 932 00:46:16,107 --> 00:46:18,027 Speaker 19: hard for that. So it was mass to get on 933 00:46:18,067 --> 00:46:19,227 Speaker 19: the field and take a few wickets. 934 00:46:19,387 --> 00:46:21,067 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well you got three of the top four as well, 935 00:46:21,147 --> 00:46:25,107 Speaker 2: and some pretty good players Alyssa Heay, Elise Perry, Beth Mooney. 936 00:46:25,427 --> 00:46:28,187 Speaker 2: You'd be pretty happy with scalps like that, wouldn't you. 937 00:46:29,227 --> 00:46:32,707 Speaker 19: Yeah, definitely, definitely. You know, they're they're the best in 938 00:46:32,787 --> 00:46:35,387 Speaker 19: the world for a reason and their they're world class players. 939 00:46:35,467 --> 00:46:38,387 Speaker 19: So to get the wickets of them was yeah, amazing. 940 00:46:38,587 --> 00:46:42,107 Speaker 2: But the real what if you worked on most with 941 00:46:42,227 --> 00:46:44,587 Speaker 2: your bowling over the last I don't know, eighteen months 942 00:46:44,747 --> 00:46:44,867 Speaker 2: or so. 943 00:46:46,667 --> 00:46:49,827 Speaker 19: I worked a lot with being around a lot of 944 00:46:49,907 --> 00:46:52,067 Speaker 19: technique stuff, you know, with my run up and my 945 00:46:52,187 --> 00:46:55,347 Speaker 19: load up at the crease as well, and for me, 946 00:46:55,467 --> 00:47:00,347 Speaker 19: it's just trying to nail those more than anything. Yeah, 947 00:47:00,467 --> 00:47:02,907 Speaker 19: with my rest position and everything. Maybe trying to get 948 00:47:03,307 --> 00:47:05,547 Speaker 19: a bit of swing, but I guess I have that 949 00:47:05,667 --> 00:47:09,867 Speaker 19: natural anger and to the better for my Yeah, from 950 00:47:09,867 --> 00:47:10,387 Speaker 19: my run up. 951 00:47:10,507 --> 00:47:12,147 Speaker 14: So yeah, it's just for me. 952 00:47:12,307 --> 00:47:14,867 Speaker 19: It's just keeping it real simple with my technique stuff 953 00:47:14,867 --> 00:47:17,787 Speaker 19: and not trying to overcomplicate it too much. So you know, 954 00:47:17,947 --> 00:47:21,707 Speaker 19: Ben's really been very helpful with that over the past, 955 00:47:21,867 --> 00:47:23,547 Speaker 19: you know, twelve to eighteen months. 956 00:47:24,227 --> 00:47:27,227 Speaker 2: Just back to yesterday in the dismissal of Elise Perry, 957 00:47:27,867 --> 00:47:29,467 Speaker 2: it felt as though looked as though you've got a 958 00:47:29,507 --> 00:47:32,267 Speaker 2: bit of extra pace and bounce which she couldn't quite 959 00:47:32,307 --> 00:47:34,427 Speaker 2: deal with. She ised it through to as he gazed 960 00:47:34,467 --> 00:47:37,307 Speaker 2: behind the stumps. Was that a particularly satisfying piece of 961 00:47:37,347 --> 00:47:37,867 Speaker 2: bowling for you? 962 00:47:39,067 --> 00:47:41,867 Speaker 19: Yeah, definitely something honest I probably I wanted it to go. 963 00:47:42,147 --> 00:47:43,827 Speaker 19: You know, I was painting a bouncer, so it probably 964 00:47:43,867 --> 00:47:47,427 Speaker 19: didn't get up as much as I of life. You know, 965 00:47:48,627 --> 00:47:51,067 Speaker 19: it's just cricket sometimes and sometimes those kind. 966 00:47:50,907 --> 00:47:51,947 Speaker 8: Of bulls get you wickets. 967 00:47:52,027 --> 00:47:54,027 Speaker 15: So no, I was happy to. 968 00:47:53,987 --> 00:47:54,707 Speaker 8: Get the wicket for her. 969 00:47:55,147 --> 00:47:58,027 Speaker 2: Of course, you mentioned before about pushing for a regular 970 00:47:58,107 --> 00:47:59,867 Speaker 2: place in the side. I guess your opportunities with the 971 00:47:59,907 --> 00:48:02,267 Speaker 2: white Ferns have been a bit limited since your debuted 972 00:48:02,267 --> 00:48:04,587 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. Lot of competition, of course. Do 973 00:48:04,667 --> 00:48:06,107 Speaker 2: you feel like you're in a place now where you 974 00:48:06,187 --> 00:48:09,667 Speaker 2: can stake acclaim for regular regular game time in both 975 00:48:09,707 --> 00:48:10,987 Speaker 2: T twenty and fifty over stuff. 976 00:48:12,427 --> 00:48:15,387 Speaker 19: Yeah, Locke, I've always you know, pushed to make that 977 00:48:15,467 --> 00:48:19,187 Speaker 19: playing eleven and you know, I get a lot of 978 00:48:19,307 --> 00:48:23,227 Speaker 19: reassurance and confidence from from being in that sense. And 979 00:48:24,067 --> 00:48:26,507 Speaker 19: you know, when people go down with injuries and stuff, 980 00:48:26,547 --> 00:48:29,587 Speaker 19: it does you know, it's a bit bittersweet because it's 981 00:48:29,667 --> 00:48:31,947 Speaker 19: unfortunate for them, but at the same time it's a 982 00:48:31,987 --> 00:48:34,467 Speaker 19: great opportunity for myself to come in and you know 983 00:48:34,707 --> 00:48:37,387 Speaker 19: prove a point almost in a way, and you know, 984 00:48:37,467 --> 00:48:40,587 Speaker 19: I just try and play my best cricket and kind 985 00:48:40,627 --> 00:48:44,267 Speaker 19: of try and cement my place in the team. So yeah, definitely, 986 00:48:44,347 --> 00:48:46,307 Speaker 19: and I'm still pushing for it in the T twenty 987 00:48:46,347 --> 00:48:50,067 Speaker 19: side as well of course, but yeah, still a work 988 00:48:50,107 --> 00:48:50,587 Speaker 19: in progress. 989 00:48:50,827 --> 00:48:52,587 Speaker 2: Well, you're in pretty good wicket taking form in the 990 00:48:52,947 --> 00:48:55,707 Speaker 2: in the HBJ the hellly bit and johnsin Shield eleven 991 00:48:55,747 --> 00:48:58,427 Speaker 2: wickets in five games for Auckland. Did that give you 992 00:48:58,587 --> 00:49:01,347 Speaker 2: confidence coming into the international arena off the back of 993 00:49:01,667 --> 00:49:05,027 Speaker 2: you know, getting some good wicket taking innings in the HBJ. 994 00:49:06,467 --> 00:49:11,427 Speaker 19: Yeah, definitely. It's definitely helped having you know, six games 995 00:49:11,427 --> 00:49:15,307 Speaker 19: of HBJ leading leading into the series. Like I said before, 996 00:49:15,347 --> 00:49:17,907 Speaker 19: we'd had a lot of far from India, Wood had 997 00:49:17,947 --> 00:49:19,947 Speaker 19: a lot of T twenty cricket obviously leading off from 998 00:49:19,987 --> 00:49:23,387 Speaker 19: the World Cup as well, so it was nice to 999 00:49:23,467 --> 00:49:26,747 Speaker 19: have around six games of fifty over and the domestic 1000 00:49:26,827 --> 00:49:30,907 Speaker 19: setup leading in here. And yeah, like you said, it 1001 00:49:30,987 --> 00:49:33,707 Speaker 19: does it does, you know, boost my confidence a bit 1002 00:49:33,787 --> 00:49:35,987 Speaker 19: with the works start of things as well. And it's 1003 00:49:36,147 --> 00:49:38,587 Speaker 19: just as a fast bowler, it's making sure that you 1004 00:49:38,667 --> 00:49:41,627 Speaker 19: find your rhythm. Sometimes it takes an over or two 1005 00:49:41,707 --> 00:49:44,867 Speaker 19: to get into it, but no, it's definitely helped leading 1006 00:49:44,907 --> 00:49:46,107 Speaker 19: into the series and. 1007 00:49:46,147 --> 00:49:49,067 Speaker 2: The standout on the scoreboard batting wise yesterday was Annabelle Sutherland. 1008 00:49:49,107 --> 00:49:52,627 Speaker 2: Of course, an unbeaten century one o five off eighty 1009 00:49:52,667 --> 00:49:55,747 Speaker 2: one balls. Was was she basically the difference between the 1010 00:49:55,787 --> 00:49:56,667 Speaker 2: two sides yesterday. 1011 00:49:58,547 --> 00:50:00,907 Speaker 19: Yeah, Look, she's she's a world class player. You know, 1012 00:50:01,027 --> 00:50:03,627 Speaker 19: she can take the game away from you in in 1013 00:50:03,667 --> 00:50:05,867 Speaker 19: a matter of a few overs. So she played her 1014 00:50:05,867 --> 00:50:09,947 Speaker 19: class and credit to her for that. But from a 1015 00:50:10,027 --> 00:50:12,987 Speaker 19: bowling point of view, we probably you know, gave her 1016 00:50:13,307 --> 00:50:16,867 Speaker 19: a few too many chances as well. She got put 1017 00:50:16,907 --> 00:50:19,627 Speaker 19: down a couple of times. So we've reflected on that 1018 00:50:19,747 --> 00:50:22,467 Speaker 19: and known that you know she's dropped on sixty odd 1019 00:50:22,547 --> 00:50:25,307 Speaker 19: and then goes on to make a century and that 1020 00:50:25,427 --> 00:50:28,827 Speaker 19: can be the difference sometimes. So yeah, that's probably what 1021 00:50:28,867 --> 00:50:30,787 Speaker 19: we were missing in the batting side of things from 1022 00:50:30,827 --> 00:50:33,307 Speaker 19: our point of view too, you know, just someone to 1023 00:50:33,387 --> 00:50:35,187 Speaker 19: go ahead and make that fiftare one hundred or that 1024 00:50:35,267 --> 00:50:38,387 Speaker 19: big partnership out in the middle. But yeah, credit to her, 1025 00:50:38,427 --> 00:50:39,547 Speaker 19: she played an amazing innings. 1026 00:50:39,867 --> 00:50:41,987 Speaker 2: Well, hope that you get a better day tomorrow. The 1027 00:50:42,067 --> 00:50:44,547 Speaker 2: forecast is a lot better. You've got no game on Thursday, 1028 00:50:44,827 --> 00:50:47,067 Speaker 2: sort of half the game yesterday, hopefully get a full 1029 00:50:47,147 --> 00:50:50,947 Speaker 2: game and tomorrow just before you go. Your sister Josie 1030 00:50:50,987 --> 00:50:53,227 Speaker 2: of course on the Auckland side with you. And how 1031 00:50:53,307 --> 00:50:56,627 Speaker 2: much of an influence has she been on your cricket, Oh, 1032 00:50:56,827 --> 00:50:57,667 Speaker 2: massive influence. 1033 00:50:57,707 --> 00:51:01,187 Speaker 19: She's she's awesome to play with the past few years. 1034 00:51:01,267 --> 00:51:04,027 Speaker 19: You know, she's she's a she's a class player too 1035 00:51:04,147 --> 00:51:07,267 Speaker 19: and still wanting to develop her game and one day 1036 00:51:07,347 --> 00:51:09,787 Speaker 19: make the White Ferns squad too. So I'm doing what 1037 00:51:09,867 --> 00:51:11,707 Speaker 19: I can to help her in that sense as well. 1038 00:51:11,787 --> 00:51:15,387 Speaker 19: And yeah, we help each other in that way. It's 1039 00:51:15,507 --> 00:51:17,547 Speaker 19: good that we have similar skill set too, so we 1040 00:51:17,627 --> 00:51:20,907 Speaker 19: can help each other out on that too. But yeah, 1041 00:51:20,987 --> 00:51:24,107 Speaker 19: now she's awesome to play with. Yeah, I'm glad I'm 1042 00:51:24,147 --> 00:51:28,747 Speaker 19: not playing against her or facing her bowling. So now 1043 00:51:28,827 --> 00:51:30,667 Speaker 19: it's real, real cool to have her on the side 1044 00:51:31,067 --> 00:51:33,507 Speaker 19: and looking forward to the Super Smash season. 1045 00:51:33,307 --> 00:51:33,747 Speaker 8: Ahead with her. 1046 00:51:33,907 --> 00:51:36,347 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's not too far away. First point of business though, 1047 00:51:36,387 --> 00:51:38,987 Speaker 2: the third odo against Australia tomorrow. I hope it goes 1048 00:51:39,027 --> 00:51:41,387 Speaker 2: as well as yesterday as far as your bowling is concerned, Molly, 1049 00:51:41,467 --> 00:51:43,747 Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time for a chat this afternoon. 1050 00:51:44,587 --> 00:51:45,267 Speaker 19: Thank you so much. 1051 00:51:45,307 --> 00:51:46,987 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, No, thanks for joining us. Molly 1052 00:51:47,027 --> 00:51:49,227 Speaker 2: appreciate it very much. Molly Penfold there out of the 1053 00:51:49,267 --> 00:51:53,987 Speaker 2: White Ferns her best ever international bowling figures yesterday, four 1054 00:51:54,107 --> 00:51:56,787 Speaker 2: for forty two. If you saw the game, they've got 1055 00:51:56,827 --> 00:51:58,587 Speaker 2: some thoughts on it. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten 1056 00:51:58,707 --> 00:52:02,027 Speaker 2: eighty we can talk about a cricket game. Three is tomorrow. 1057 00:52:02,267 --> 00:52:05,347 Speaker 2: Just on the forecast that I mentioned to Molly. There 1058 00:52:05,507 --> 00:52:09,067 Speaker 2: the forecast for tomorrow for Wellington cloudy period's the chance 1059 00:52:09,147 --> 00:52:12,027 Speaker 2: of a morning shower becoming fine though in the afternoon. 1060 00:52:12,107 --> 00:52:15,747 Speaker 2: Northerly's easing in the afternoon. So I can't see any 1061 00:52:15,827 --> 00:52:17,667 Speaker 2: real reason why they wouldn't get a full game, and 1062 00:52:17,747 --> 00:52:22,267 Speaker 2: tomorrow eleven o'clock starts. Hopefully the morning shower comes early 1063 00:52:22,347 --> 00:52:24,227 Speaker 2: in the morning, clears away and we get a fine 1064 00:52:24,267 --> 00:52:28,427 Speaker 2: day for ODI number three from eleven tomorrow at the 1065 00:52:28,467 --> 00:52:32,467 Speaker 2: Basin Reserve. Text here, which is an interesting one on 1066 00:52:32,547 --> 00:52:35,347 Speaker 2: the women's cricket Because the first game was rained out? 1067 00:52:36,387 --> 00:52:39,427 Speaker 2: Why didn't they play a catch up game today? So 1068 00:52:39,587 --> 00:52:43,787 Speaker 2: it's a proper three match series. Why our administrators so 1069 00:52:44,027 --> 00:52:46,747 Speaker 2: keen to not be a bit innovative and promote the 1070 00:52:46,787 --> 00:52:49,467 Speaker 2: game better? Even if TV couldn't be organized in time? 1071 00:52:49,507 --> 00:52:52,387 Speaker 2: Who cares? All the players are just sitting around Wellington 1072 00:52:52,507 --> 00:52:54,867 Speaker 2: doing nothing, so why not play? It is a very 1073 00:52:54,907 --> 00:52:57,827 Speaker 2: good point, a very good point. There were three games 1074 00:52:57,827 --> 00:53:00,907 Speaker 2: scheduled at the same venue in the space of five 1075 00:53:01,027 --> 00:53:07,227 Speaker 2: days Thursday, Saturday Monday. Thursday was completely rained off. It's 1076 00:53:07,307 --> 00:53:11,787 Speaker 2: a really good point. They could have played today. They're 1077 00:53:11,827 --> 00:53:14,267 Speaker 2: all there. I know they might say we need a 1078 00:53:14,387 --> 00:53:16,347 Speaker 2: gap in between games, but do you really didn't play 1079 00:53:16,387 --> 00:53:19,547 Speaker 2: on Thursday at all? And even yesterday's game was truncated 1080 00:53:19,627 --> 00:53:21,907 Speaker 2: by the weather. It's a nice day in Wellington today. 1081 00:53:21,947 --> 00:53:25,027 Speaker 2: They could be playing cricket if they wanted to. So 1082 00:53:25,147 --> 00:53:27,107 Speaker 2: when you've got three games in the space of five days, 1083 00:53:27,107 --> 00:53:30,187 Speaker 2: which is pretty much unprecedented anyway. Normally, at least you 1084 00:53:30,227 --> 00:53:31,787 Speaker 2: know when a team comes and plays a three match 1085 00:53:31,827 --> 00:53:33,947 Speaker 2: series that might go Saturday, Wednesday, Saturday or something like that. 1086 00:53:34,587 --> 00:53:38,347 Speaker 2: Three games in five days is quite unusual. So, yeah, 1087 00:53:38,387 --> 00:53:40,507 Speaker 2: three with three games and four days have really been 1088 00:53:40,787 --> 00:53:45,507 Speaker 2: any that we would be three and three? Wouldn't it Saturday, Sunday, Monday? 1089 00:53:45,787 --> 00:53:48,227 Speaker 2: They could have, couldn't they. It's a nice piece of innovation. 1090 00:53:48,827 --> 00:53:50,947 Speaker 2: You might have some thoughts on that. Oh, eight hundred 1091 00:53:50,947 --> 00:53:53,067 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty is the number. If you do 1092 00:53:53,667 --> 00:53:57,147 Speaker 2: twenty past one, we're going to take a break. As 1093 00:53:57,187 --> 00:53:59,907 Speaker 2: well as your calls, we'll also drill down into some 1094 00:54:00,187 --> 00:54:03,747 Speaker 2: top level of women's basketball after this is the Towihi 1095 00:54:03,907 --> 00:54:08,107 Speaker 2: al Podo Final this afternoon around three o'clock in Totonga. 1096 00:54:08,467 --> 00:54:10,387 Speaker 2: We'll have a bit of a preview of that when 1097 00:54:10,427 --> 00:54:11,907 Speaker 2: we come back to on Weekend. 1098 00:54:11,627 --> 00:54:17,307 Speaker 1: Sport One Grudge Hold Engage Weekend Sport with Jason Pain 1099 00:54:17,507 --> 00:54:21,667 Speaker 1: and GJ. Gunderhomes, New Zealand's first trusted Homilder News talks 1100 00:54:21,707 --> 00:54:22,507 Speaker 1: to Bailey. 1101 00:54:22,787 --> 00:54:28,187 Speaker 5: A comeback of ginormous proportions tonight in christ Church and 1102 00:54:28,347 --> 00:54:32,307 Speaker 5: the Takemono with Queens are headed to the twenty twenty 1103 00:54:32,387 --> 00:54:37,587 Speaker 5: four Toeyhe Grand Final. With an amazing final quarter comeback 1104 00:54:38,147 --> 00:54:40,827 Speaker 5: quite incredible, they get home by five. 1105 00:54:41,147 --> 00:54:44,667 Speaker 2: What have we just witnessed? That's the voice of Justin Nelson. 1106 00:54:44,907 --> 00:54:48,507 Speaker 2: The toy He Basketball Altour final this afternoon from three 1107 00:54:48,587 --> 00:54:51,587 Speaker 2: in Totonga. The todonger Pi in their first final, hosting 1108 00:54:51,627 --> 00:54:54,027 Speaker 2: the Takamana with Queens, who as you just heard it 1109 00:54:54,107 --> 00:54:56,387 Speaker 2: at the hard Way in their semi final last weekend. 1110 00:54:56,667 --> 00:54:59,027 Speaker 2: They're into their third straight final. They won it in 1111 00:54:59,107 --> 00:55:02,147 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two and went down to the Northern Kahu 1112 00:55:02,347 --> 00:55:06,027 Speaker 2: in last year's decider. This afternoon also happens to be 1113 00:55:06,147 --> 00:55:10,067 Speaker 2: the one hundredth game in the competition's history since its 1114 00:55:10,307 --> 00:55:13,667 Speaker 2: inception in twenty twenty two. Justin Nelson has to call 1115 00:55:13,747 --> 00:55:15,627 Speaker 2: this afternoon as well and joins us. Now, thanks for 1116 00:55:15,667 --> 00:55:18,067 Speaker 2: taking the time, Justin. Have we got the best two 1117 00:55:18,147 --> 00:55:19,027 Speaker 2: teams in the final? 1118 00:55:20,507 --> 00:55:22,187 Speaker 20: Ay, piney afternoon to you? 1119 00:55:22,947 --> 00:55:23,147 Speaker 11: Well? 1120 00:55:23,267 --> 00:55:24,267 Speaker 9: The fact that they're both through to. 1121 00:55:24,267 --> 00:55:28,027 Speaker 20: The grand final says yes. I mean semi finals can 1122 00:55:28,107 --> 00:55:30,907 Speaker 20: go anyway and this competition has been super tight and 1123 00:55:30,987 --> 00:55:33,267 Speaker 20: super close right throughout the season, and as it was, 1124 00:55:33,387 --> 00:55:36,547 Speaker 20: the two away teams, the two lowest seeded teams third 1125 00:55:36,587 --> 00:55:38,827 Speaker 20: and fourth have made it through to the Big Dance. 1126 00:55:39,507 --> 00:55:41,267 Speaker 2: Tell us about that semi final that we just heard 1127 00:55:41,267 --> 00:55:43,787 Speaker 2: a snippet of commentary from the Tokamata were Queens. From 1128 00:55:43,867 --> 00:55:46,667 Speaker 2: what I can see, they were. They were quite away 1129 00:55:46,747 --> 00:55:48,867 Speaker 2: behind with not a heck of a lot of time left. 1130 00:55:49,747 --> 00:55:53,027 Speaker 20: Yeah, amazing, sixteen down with eight minutes to play, and look, 1131 00:55:53,067 --> 00:55:55,747 Speaker 20: eight minutes is a long time in basketball, but sixteen 1132 00:55:55,827 --> 00:55:58,067 Speaker 20: points as a fair lead as well, and they ended 1133 00:55:58,147 --> 00:56:00,187 Speaker 20: up winning by five, so it was a twenty one 1134 00:56:00,267 --> 00:56:03,867 Speaker 20: point turnaround from that eight minute mark. Amazingly, When these 1135 00:56:03,947 --> 00:56:06,307 Speaker 20: two teams met on this same court down in Crime 1136 00:56:06,507 --> 00:56:10,987 Speaker 20: Church earlier in the season, the Queens led by plenty 1137 00:56:11,027 --> 00:56:14,067 Speaker 20: about nineteen points with twelve minutes to play and the 1138 00:56:14,147 --> 00:56:16,707 Speaker 20: Poarchive got up over the top of the Queen. So 1139 00:56:17,267 --> 00:56:19,947 Speaker 20: it was a return serve, no question. And this time 1140 00:56:20,067 --> 00:56:21,907 Speaker 20: the stakes were a lot higher and the Queens are through, 1141 00:56:21,987 --> 00:56:25,387 Speaker 20: as you said, to their third successive Grand Final. It's 1142 00:56:25,427 --> 00:56:27,547 Speaker 20: quite an amazing feat in just the third season. 1143 00:56:27,547 --> 00:56:30,947 Speaker 2: And so so they'll face the Todung of five, who 1144 00:56:30,987 --> 00:56:34,587 Speaker 2: will host. As you say, the bottom two qualifiers in 1145 00:56:34,667 --> 00:56:37,387 Speaker 2: terms of the semi finals both went through Totong five 1146 00:56:37,427 --> 00:56:40,267 Speaker 2: will host by virtue of having finished third in the 1147 00:56:40,347 --> 00:56:42,747 Speaker 2: regular season. Can you tell us a bit about their season? 1148 00:56:43,387 --> 00:56:45,627 Speaker 2: You know, twelve games six one six losses and then 1149 00:56:45,627 --> 00:56:48,387 Speaker 2: they win the semi final. That speaks of a little 1150 00:56:48,387 --> 00:56:50,987 Speaker 2: bit of inconsistency. Tell us a bit about our hosts 1151 00:56:51,187 --> 00:56:51,867 Speaker 2: this afternoon. 1152 00:56:52,547 --> 00:56:55,467 Speaker 20: Yeah, a tale of two halves through the regular season. 1153 00:56:55,707 --> 00:56:58,627 Speaker 20: Enormous fire power in this team. They can really light 1154 00:56:58,707 --> 00:57:01,507 Speaker 20: it up. They were sitting one in five on the 1155 00:57:01,587 --> 00:57:03,587 Speaker 20: season of the half way mark, and then they made 1156 00:57:03,627 --> 00:57:07,147 Speaker 20: a change to their starting lineup. McKenna Daleyk shooting guard 1157 00:57:07,187 --> 00:57:11,147 Speaker 20: who's an exceptionally talented player, came into the starting lineup 1158 00:57:11,227 --> 00:57:14,107 Speaker 20: and since that point they have gone six and one, 1159 00:57:14,267 --> 00:57:17,707 Speaker 20: including that semi final victory over the car Who last week. 1160 00:57:17,787 --> 00:57:20,187 Speaker 20: So a real definitive moment in their season at the 1161 00:57:20,267 --> 00:57:23,507 Speaker 20: midway and they've turned it right around. They were bottom 1162 00:57:23,547 --> 00:57:26,107 Speaker 20: of the ladder at that stage and now find themselves 1163 00:57:26,187 --> 00:57:27,987 Speaker 20: hosting a grand final. Quite remarkable. 1164 00:57:28,547 --> 00:57:30,427 Speaker 2: So if we drill down a bit into each of 1165 00:57:30,467 --> 00:57:33,827 Speaker 2: these two sides, which players are going to be particularly 1166 00:57:34,107 --> 00:57:36,707 Speaker 2: important for their respective teams this afternoon. 1167 00:57:37,587 --> 00:57:37,787 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1168 00:57:37,827 --> 00:57:40,947 Speaker 20: Look, three WNBA players in this game today in the 1169 00:57:41,027 --> 00:57:45,947 Speaker 20: Grand Final. Two are current WNBA players in Jordan Horston, 1170 00:57:45,987 --> 00:57:48,827 Speaker 20: who's a seventy seven game player with the Seattle Storm, 1171 00:57:49,187 --> 00:57:51,627 Speaker 20: one of their key players in that rotation. She's only 1172 00:57:51,667 --> 00:57:53,947 Speaker 20: twenty three years of age, so that already have seventy 1173 00:57:53,987 --> 00:57:57,707 Speaker 20: seven WNBA games under your belt at just turned twenty 1174 00:57:57,787 --> 00:58:00,547 Speaker 20: three is quite remarkable. Look out for her. Jordan Horston, 1175 00:58:01,227 --> 00:58:04,307 Speaker 20: leading scorer in the competition through the regular season. And 1176 00:58:04,387 --> 00:58:07,107 Speaker 20: the other big name sits with the Fire a shooting 1177 00:58:07,187 --> 00:58:10,947 Speaker 20: guard by the name of Ashley Jones who is a 1178 00:58:11,027 --> 00:58:14,027 Speaker 20: two year veteran already of Saints. Strang's saying veteran, but 1179 00:58:14,067 --> 00:58:17,267 Speaker 20: two years already in the WNBA, has played with three teams, 1180 00:58:17,347 --> 00:58:20,027 Speaker 20: in fact, played with three teams in the space of 1181 00:58:20,187 --> 00:58:22,787 Speaker 20: one season. She is a walking bucket. I mean she 1182 00:58:22,867 --> 00:58:26,587 Speaker 20: can absolutely light it up and score. She's the second 1183 00:58:26,787 --> 00:58:29,107 Speaker 20: top scorer through the regular season. So we've got the 1184 00:58:29,227 --> 00:58:32,587 Speaker 20: top two point getters playing this afternoon in the Grand Final, 1185 00:58:32,627 --> 00:58:34,587 Speaker 20: and they are the two to watch, Jordan Horston for 1186 00:58:34,627 --> 00:58:37,147 Speaker 20: the Queens and Ashley Jones for the Five. 1187 00:58:37,747 --> 00:58:39,947 Speaker 2: So and you look at points scorers but often you're 1188 00:58:39,947 --> 00:58:41,427 Speaker 2: here and I've even heard you say this to me 1189 00:58:41,467 --> 00:58:42,827 Speaker 2: a number of times that you know that you win 1190 00:58:42,947 --> 00:58:46,667 Speaker 2: basketball by your defense. By your defense, if we use 1191 00:58:46,747 --> 00:58:50,107 Speaker 2: the way that basketball tend to tend to pronounce it. 1192 00:58:51,027 --> 00:58:52,907 Speaker 2: Who are the bit of defensive team? 1193 00:58:54,267 --> 00:58:54,427 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1194 00:58:54,427 --> 00:58:56,427 Speaker 20: I think the Queens are and that showed up last 1195 00:58:56,507 --> 00:58:59,347 Speaker 20: week in that semi final comeback over the Poulachi. They've 1196 00:58:59,387 --> 00:59:02,467 Speaker 20: got the defensive player of the year star keiwe tall 1197 00:59:02,507 --> 00:59:05,907 Speaker 20: Ferninstella Beck. She's the captain of the Queens and she's 1198 00:59:06,147 --> 00:59:09,307 Speaker 20: just a monumental player when it comes to doing the 1199 00:59:09,387 --> 00:59:12,027 Speaker 20: big things that quite often don't show up on the 1200 00:59:12,107 --> 00:59:17,307 Speaker 20: stat sheet, but they are certainly remarkable performances and those 1201 00:59:17,387 --> 00:59:20,307 Speaker 20: one percent of staler Beck just continually comes up with 1202 00:59:20,387 --> 00:59:22,547 Speaker 20: those plays. So look out for staler Beck today. As 1203 00:59:22,587 --> 00:59:25,467 Speaker 20: I said, defensive player of the year. And Lou Brown, 1204 00:59:25,827 --> 00:59:28,907 Speaker 20: the twenty nine year old out of Melbourne in Victoria. 1205 00:59:29,547 --> 00:59:35,187 Speaker 20: She's the leading rebounder both offensively and defensively, the Queen's 1206 00:59:35,347 --> 00:59:38,467 Speaker 20: power forward. She came up with a huge offensive rebound 1207 00:59:38,867 --> 00:59:41,347 Speaker 20: to help the Queens get up last week over the Poarquai. 1208 00:59:41,547 --> 00:59:45,787 Speaker 20: In that game, sixteen rebounds, twelve off the offensive glass, 1209 00:59:46,227 --> 00:59:48,867 Speaker 20: which is a league record. So when it comes down 1210 00:59:48,867 --> 00:59:52,707 Speaker 20: to defense today, definitely the Queens the team to watch before. 1211 00:59:52,427 --> 00:59:54,587 Speaker 2: You zoom matter. But justin how do you assess the 1212 00:59:54,667 --> 00:59:57,707 Speaker 2: growth and the ongoing health of Toehi. 1213 00:59:58,947 --> 01:00:01,347 Speaker 20: Yeah, I've got to pinch myself, you know. Look, it's 1214 01:00:01,427 --> 01:00:03,587 Speaker 20: no secret of been a part of it from day one, 1215 01:00:03,667 --> 01:00:07,467 Speaker 20: and today is just one hundredth game sells. NBL season 1216 01:00:07,507 --> 01:00:10,227 Speaker 20: had one hundred and fifteen games in twenty twenty four, 1217 01:00:10,427 --> 01:00:13,547 Speaker 20: so you know, by any measurement TOIHI is just an 1218 01:00:13,627 --> 01:00:17,307 Speaker 20: absolute baby chalking up that milestone today. But if you 1219 01:00:17,347 --> 01:00:20,107 Speaker 20: look at what it's achieved in such a short amount 1220 01:00:20,147 --> 01:00:23,467 Speaker 20: of time, attendances are up fifty percent year on year 1221 01:00:23,547 --> 01:00:26,387 Speaker 20: this year, viewership has been really strong. Moving the season 1222 01:00:26,467 --> 01:00:30,427 Speaker 20: to this window has just garnered so much more media attention. 1223 01:00:30,547 --> 01:00:34,067 Speaker 20: And of course it's a competition that started with pay parody, 1224 01:00:34,147 --> 01:00:36,987 Speaker 20: as you know, Piney and the player's got a bumping 1225 01:00:37,107 --> 01:00:39,547 Speaker 20: pay this year, so they're now paid more than the men. 1226 01:00:39,667 --> 01:00:42,427 Speaker 20: And look, you know, I searched the world over as 1227 01:00:42,467 --> 01:00:44,587 Speaker 20: much as I possibly can. I just don't know another 1228 01:00:44,667 --> 01:00:47,587 Speaker 20: game or competition like it in the world where the 1229 01:00:47,627 --> 01:00:49,627 Speaker 20: women are being paid more than the men, and I 1230 01:00:49,667 --> 01:00:51,507 Speaker 20: think it's something we should all be really proud of, 1231 01:00:51,667 --> 01:00:54,347 Speaker 20: and they put on a great show. One hundred games. 1232 01:00:54,707 --> 01:00:56,387 Speaker 20: It's only a short amount of time, but if you 1233 01:00:56,427 --> 01:00:58,347 Speaker 20: look at what's been achieved in that time, it is 1234 01:00:58,427 --> 01:00:59,187 Speaker 20: quite remarkable. 1235 01:00:59,667 --> 01:01:02,507 Speaker 2: They play rapid League as well. Yeah, they do. 1236 01:01:02,627 --> 01:01:04,667 Speaker 20: In fact, they started it. So rapid League, as you know, 1237 01:01:04,867 --> 01:01:07,587 Speaker 20: is a world first, and it was TOIHI that were 1238 01:01:07,627 --> 01:01:10,147 Speaker 20: the first in the world to play it. They started 1239 01:01:10,187 --> 01:01:12,987 Speaker 20: in twenty twenty three, whereas the men in the sales 1240 01:01:13,027 --> 01:01:15,347 Speaker 20: en Bil they started in twenty twenty four. So they've 1241 01:01:15,347 --> 01:01:16,307 Speaker 20: got a few accolades. 1242 01:01:16,427 --> 01:01:16,907 Speaker 9: These women. 1243 01:01:16,947 --> 01:01:20,067 Speaker 20: They're very good players, but they're also right up there 1244 01:01:20,107 --> 01:01:23,467 Speaker 20: when it comes to doing things differently and innovating, and yeah, 1245 01:01:23,507 --> 01:01:25,387 Speaker 20: they were the first in the world to play rapid League. 1246 01:01:25,947 --> 01:01:28,347 Speaker 2: I don't know, you're only focused on this afternoon, but 1247 01:01:28,467 --> 01:01:31,947 Speaker 2: if we look ahead, what do you predict for the 1248 01:01:32,427 --> 01:01:33,827 Speaker 2: next few years of this league. 1249 01:01:35,107 --> 01:01:37,027 Speaker 20: Well, I think the crowds are just going to continue 1250 01:01:37,067 --> 01:01:39,187 Speaker 20: to go from strength to strength. We know the power 1251 01:01:39,267 --> 01:01:42,547 Speaker 20: of this game amongst the youth, especially the under twenty fives. 1252 01:01:43,187 --> 01:01:45,067 Speaker 20: The fact that the kids and the families can come 1253 01:01:45,107 --> 01:01:47,347 Speaker 20: straight down on the court after a game and meet 1254 01:01:47,427 --> 01:01:50,467 Speaker 20: the players. You know, those things help build an audience 1255 01:01:50,507 --> 01:01:53,267 Speaker 20: and build fandom. And just the fact that attendances have 1256 01:01:53,387 --> 01:01:55,267 Speaker 20: gone up so much this year, I think that's going 1257 01:01:55,347 --> 01:01:58,147 Speaker 20: to continue. And look, I think the other thing is 1258 01:01:58,187 --> 01:02:01,467 Speaker 20: we're going to see more global and Kiwi stars emerged 1259 01:02:01,507 --> 01:02:05,627 Speaker 20: from this competition. Today's Grand Final has three seventeen year 1260 01:02:05,667 --> 01:02:09,947 Speaker 20: old Kiwi and they're all exceptionally talented players. Those sorts 1261 01:02:09,947 --> 01:02:12,107 Speaker 20: of things are going to continue to come. A lot 1262 01:02:12,147 --> 01:02:14,907 Speaker 20: of Kiwi's in college basketball in the States. They're going 1263 01:02:14,947 --> 01:02:17,627 Speaker 20: to come home and have professional leagues to play in. 1264 01:02:17,827 --> 01:02:20,707 Speaker 20: So the growth has already been there, but I think 1265 01:02:20,747 --> 01:02:23,307 Speaker 20: there's some big times ahead for basketball in this country, 1266 01:02:23,387 --> 01:02:24,907 Speaker 20: and especially in the women's game. 1267 01:02:25,507 --> 01:02:27,867 Speaker 2: All Right, you got to pick for us this afternoon. 1268 01:02:29,547 --> 01:02:29,947 Speaker 2: It's hard. 1269 01:02:29,987 --> 01:02:31,467 Speaker 20: I mean, you've got a team going back to their 1270 01:02:31,547 --> 01:02:34,627 Speaker 20: third straight Grand Final. You've got the fire power of 1271 01:02:34,747 --> 01:02:38,387 Speaker 20: this Totonga Fire team. I think experience counts for a lot. 1272 01:02:38,467 --> 01:02:40,467 Speaker 20: So the Queens are going to be right there. But 1273 01:02:40,627 --> 01:02:42,907 Speaker 20: you it's a fairy tale, isn't it. This Fire team 1274 01:02:42,987 --> 01:02:45,147 Speaker 20: at one and five, all of a sudden they're hosting 1275 01:02:45,187 --> 01:02:47,427 Speaker 20: a Grand Final. I think they might get up in 1276 01:02:47,467 --> 01:02:47,867 Speaker 20: a thriller. 1277 01:02:48,387 --> 01:02:51,587 Speaker 2: All right, well, I'll drop Tanya Tupu, the coach of 1278 01:02:51,627 --> 01:02:53,507 Speaker 2: the Queen's a quick message to let her know if 1279 01:02:53,547 --> 01:02:56,747 Speaker 2: she needs any more motivation. Like I know, you're straight 1280 01:02:56,787 --> 01:02:58,587 Speaker 2: down in the middle when it comes to your commentary. Justin, 1281 01:02:58,627 --> 01:03:01,547 Speaker 2: congrats on another great Toehi season, look forward to an 1282 01:03:01,587 --> 01:03:04,387 Speaker 2: exciting final this afternoon and thanks for taking time for 1283 01:03:04,467 --> 01:03:05,027 Speaker 2: a chat to us. 1284 01:03:05,627 --> 01:03:07,907 Speaker 20: Appreciate it made as always all the best. 1285 01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:11,027 Speaker 2: Justin chairs Justin Nelson, there driving force behind the TOIHI 1286 01:03:11,267 --> 01:03:15,347 Speaker 2: and its growth over the last three years. As you say, 1287 01:03:15,387 --> 01:03:18,747 Speaker 2: we're only up to game number one hundred in its 1288 01:03:18,867 --> 01:03:22,627 Speaker 2: history and in a league that is going from strength 1289 01:03:22,987 --> 01:03:25,787 Speaker 2: to strength. The final this afternoon tips off at three 1290 01:03:25,827 --> 01:03:29,387 Speaker 2: o'clock in Totong of the Pai up against the Takumana Queens, 1291 01:03:29,787 --> 01:03:32,107 Speaker 2: twenty eight away from two. Just wanted to circle back 1292 01:03:32,147 --> 01:03:34,267 Speaker 2: to yesterday where we spoke of it about Liam Lawson. 1293 01:03:35,067 --> 01:03:36,947 Speaker 2: We had a great chat with Eric Thompson and heaps 1294 01:03:37,347 --> 01:03:41,987 Speaker 2: good calls about what Liam's future with Red Bull Racing 1295 01:03:42,227 --> 01:03:45,147 Speaker 2: looks like next year, what success will look like, all 1296 01:03:45,187 --> 01:03:47,707 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. We had the chance during the 1297 01:03:47,747 --> 01:03:49,667 Speaker 2: week to hear from the man himself and I wanted 1298 01:03:49,667 --> 01:03:52,107 Speaker 2: to play a couple of his comments for you, just 1299 01:03:52,227 --> 01:03:55,187 Speaker 2: to give you a demonstration of how well adjusted this 1300 01:03:55,547 --> 01:03:57,427 Speaker 2: young man is. And he is still a young man, 1301 01:03:57,587 --> 01:04:01,747 Speaker 2: but going into one of the highest profile positions in 1302 01:04:01,827 --> 01:04:05,587 Speaker 2: motors board a full time drive in Formula One, only 1303 01:04:05,747 --> 01:04:09,227 Speaker 2: twenty of them those are available, twenty seats every year, 1304 01:04:09,907 --> 01:04:13,387 Speaker 2: and Liam Lawson has one of them. So what gives 1305 01:04:13,467 --> 01:04:16,107 Speaker 2: him the confidence that he can get into a Formula 1306 01:04:16,187 --> 01:04:18,827 Speaker 2: One seat and succeed pretty much straight away? 1307 01:04:19,347 --> 01:04:21,587 Speaker 21: I think I just look at it like any other 1308 01:04:22,467 --> 01:04:26,787 Speaker 21: like any other seasonal or you know, role going into it. 1309 01:04:27,867 --> 01:04:31,187 Speaker 21: I think at any point in any professional athlete, whether 1310 01:04:31,227 --> 01:04:33,707 Speaker 21: you're a boxer or a driver, or a tennis player 1311 01:04:33,787 --> 01:04:36,107 Speaker 21: or whatever you are, if you're going into a match 1312 01:04:36,747 --> 01:04:39,147 Speaker 21: or a game or whatever and you're thinking that somebody 1313 01:04:39,227 --> 01:04:40,987 Speaker 21: might be better than you, or that somebody might have 1314 01:04:41,027 --> 01:04:43,547 Speaker 21: the upper hand, or that you're not good enough, then 1315 01:04:43,707 --> 01:04:45,947 Speaker 21: you might as well not really turn up. So it's 1316 01:04:46,027 --> 01:04:48,307 Speaker 21: something that I think us as racing drivers, we have 1317 01:04:48,427 --> 01:04:51,027 Speaker 21: to sort of have that mindset. I'm lucky that I've 1318 01:04:51,067 --> 01:04:54,387 Speaker 21: had it since I was a kid and it's stuck. 1319 01:04:54,227 --> 01:04:55,027 Speaker 15: With me all the way through. 1320 01:04:55,107 --> 01:04:59,107 Speaker 21: And although I'm not expecting to not expected to go 1321 01:04:59,187 --> 01:05:02,907 Speaker 21: in there and beat him, But you know, I obviously 1322 01:05:03,027 --> 01:05:06,107 Speaker 21: have a level of confidence and sort of my ability 1323 01:05:06,347 --> 01:05:09,667 Speaker 21: what's got me to this point. And for me, it's 1324 01:05:09,747 --> 01:05:11,787 Speaker 21: more just exciting for the for the opportunity. 1325 01:05:11,867 --> 01:05:12,107 Speaker 8: I think. 1326 01:05:12,107 --> 01:05:13,987 Speaker 15: It's not I'm not really thinking so much about whether 1327 01:05:14,027 --> 01:05:14,867 Speaker 15: I can do the job. 1328 01:05:14,947 --> 01:05:18,147 Speaker 21: It's more I'm excited to be in this position, to 1329 01:05:19,267 --> 01:05:20,947 Speaker 21: have an opportunity to work with the best team in 1330 01:05:20,987 --> 01:05:24,867 Speaker 21: Formula one, against the best guy and learn from all 1331 01:05:24,907 --> 01:05:27,427 Speaker 21: of that and become, you know, the best basically driver 1332 01:05:27,547 --> 01:05:28,107 Speaker 21: that I can become. 1333 01:05:28,267 --> 01:05:30,827 Speaker 2: Yeah, the best guy being Max for stepan full time 1334 01:05:30,907 --> 01:05:34,387 Speaker 2: defending Formula one world champion who will be Liam Lawson's 1335 01:05:34,467 --> 01:05:37,027 Speaker 2: teammate and the top Red Bull team. So what is 1336 01:05:37,107 --> 01:05:40,747 Speaker 2: Liam's mindset on driving alongside Max for Stepping. 1337 01:05:41,387 --> 01:05:42,267 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean it's. 1338 01:05:43,667 --> 01:05:47,827 Speaker 21: I'm definitely not working against them, so it's obviously an 1339 01:05:47,867 --> 01:05:51,307 Speaker 21: opportunity to be working alongside. The biggest opportunity for me 1340 01:05:51,627 --> 01:05:55,187 Speaker 21: is the fact that he's won the last four championships. 1341 01:05:55,227 --> 01:05:57,587 Speaker 15: He's the best in the world right now. He's been 1342 01:05:57,627 --> 01:05:59,467 Speaker 15: in this team for. 1343 01:06:01,067 --> 01:06:01,627 Speaker 8: A long time. 1344 01:06:02,067 --> 01:06:03,667 Speaker 21: I don't know how long now, maybe it's close to 1345 01:06:03,747 --> 01:06:08,907 Speaker 21: ten years and so he knows you know everything about 1346 01:06:08,907 --> 01:06:12,107 Speaker 21: the car, he knows everything about the team, and he'll 1347 01:06:12,107 --> 01:06:14,947 Speaker 21: always be pushing basically the absolute limits. And for me 1348 01:06:15,067 --> 01:06:17,747 Speaker 21: to be able to work alongside that, I get a 1349 01:06:17,827 --> 01:06:19,907 Speaker 21: lot more learning. I get probably the most learning I 1350 01:06:19,947 --> 01:06:22,387 Speaker 21: could possibly get out of it. So for me it's 1351 01:06:22,427 --> 01:06:26,027 Speaker 21: an opportunity to basically become a bit of driver and 1352 01:06:27,627 --> 01:06:30,587 Speaker 21: then obviously work with the best team in Formula One 1353 01:06:31,427 --> 01:06:34,507 Speaker 21: and have an opportunity to fight at the front. 1354 01:06:35,227 --> 01:06:38,067 Speaker 2: So when Liam Lawson looks ahead to twenty twenty five 1355 01:06:38,267 --> 01:06:40,747 Speaker 2: and the Grand Prix races he will be competing in, 1356 01:06:40,867 --> 01:06:44,067 Speaker 2: are there any in particular that he has circled in 1357 01:06:44,187 --> 01:06:46,987 Speaker 2: particular anticipation for twenty twenty five? 1358 01:06:49,547 --> 01:06:50,467 Speaker 15: Melbourne is a big one. 1359 01:06:50,707 --> 01:06:53,347 Speaker 21: Honestly, there's a lot, like you know, from when I 1360 01:06:53,427 --> 01:06:54,867 Speaker 21: was a kid. There's a lot of tracks that are 1361 01:06:54,907 --> 01:06:58,307 Speaker 21: on the calendar stool that I raced as that I 1362 01:06:58,427 --> 01:07:02,267 Speaker 21: raced on and Melbourne's one that's close to home. Obviously, 1363 01:07:02,347 --> 01:07:04,667 Speaker 21: one day I'd love to get New Zealand Grand Prix 1364 01:07:04,667 --> 01:07:07,627 Speaker 21: in there, but to have and it's it's very very close, 1365 01:07:08,227 --> 01:07:11,307 Speaker 21: and I know the support there from home and from Australia. 1366 01:07:11,507 --> 01:07:12,307 Speaker 15: Will be very cool. 1367 01:07:13,347 --> 01:07:17,347 Speaker 21: Other than that, there's there's obviously Monaco, even some of 1368 01:07:17,347 --> 01:07:19,627 Speaker 21: the ones I've really done us in Singapore, tracks like 1369 01:07:19,707 --> 01:07:25,307 Speaker 21: that are super exciting. So yeah, there's it's a it's 1370 01:07:25,387 --> 01:07:29,107 Speaker 21: a very full full calendar with a lot of tracks 1371 01:07:29,187 --> 01:07:30,467 Speaker 21: that that's I'm looking forward. 1372 01:07:30,267 --> 01:07:30,747 Speaker 15: To driving on. 1373 01:07:31,227 --> 01:07:34,747 Speaker 2: And who does Liam Lawson take his advice from? Who 1374 01:07:34,787 --> 01:07:38,787 Speaker 2: are those who he chats to who give him particularly 1375 01:07:39,107 --> 01:07:40,987 Speaker 2: valuable advice and guidance. 1376 01:07:41,947 --> 01:07:42,747 Speaker 15: I would say. 1377 01:07:44,867 --> 01:07:47,307 Speaker 21: I think over the years I've learned, especially getting closer 1378 01:07:47,347 --> 01:07:50,587 Speaker 21: to to Formula one and stepping into Formula one is 1379 01:07:52,587 --> 01:07:56,747 Speaker 21: although there's many amazing people that have you know, I've 1380 01:07:56,827 --> 01:08:00,307 Speaker 21: met and and got to got to know over the years, 1381 01:08:01,987 --> 01:08:03,747 Speaker 21: and a lot more people will sort of come into 1382 01:08:03,827 --> 01:08:06,307 Speaker 21: your sort of circle or to your group of almost 1383 01:08:06,427 --> 01:08:09,067 Speaker 21: want to I think for me, it's it's speaking to 1384 01:08:09,147 --> 01:08:11,427 Speaker 21: people that have always been there for me. And obviously 1385 01:08:11,507 --> 01:08:13,467 Speaker 21: that starts from my family, so talking to my dad. 1386 01:08:13,827 --> 01:08:15,787 Speaker 21: He's been somebody that I've taken a lot of advice 1387 01:08:15,867 --> 01:08:19,467 Speaker 21: from since I was a kid. And it's yeah, people 1388 01:08:19,507 --> 01:08:23,067 Speaker 21: that are very close to me, not necessarily just in 1389 01:08:24,187 --> 01:08:26,587 Speaker 21: from drivers in the sport, but but yeah, people that 1390 01:08:26,707 --> 01:08:29,387 Speaker 21: are that I've met over the years who I can 1391 01:08:29,427 --> 01:08:32,427 Speaker 21: who I can trust coming into it into a moment 1392 01:08:32,547 --> 01:08:36,187 Speaker 21: like this, and also within you know, within Rebel, there's 1393 01:08:36,227 --> 01:08:38,907 Speaker 21: people in the team that obviously have experienced these kind 1394 01:08:38,947 --> 01:08:42,107 Speaker 21: of moments in the past. And then there's you know, 1395 01:08:42,347 --> 01:08:45,307 Speaker 21: Christian and Helmets and and obviously the other guys who 1396 01:08:45,347 --> 01:08:48,627 Speaker 21: are trusting me with a role like this, So speaking 1397 01:08:48,707 --> 01:08:52,467 Speaker 21: to them and and you know, knowing that they trust 1398 01:08:52,507 --> 01:08:56,027 Speaker 21: me to do this, that people, that's that, Yeah, I 1399 01:08:56,067 --> 01:08:58,587 Speaker 21: would I would definitely take advice from for for for this. 1400 01:08:58,907 --> 01:09:02,707 Speaker 2: And finally from Liam Lawson. Does he feel fully prepared 1401 01:09:02,827 --> 01:09:05,667 Speaker 2: for what comes with being a Formula one driver, both 1402 01:09:05,707 --> 01:09:07,787 Speaker 2: in the car and off the track. 1403 01:09:08,347 --> 01:09:10,307 Speaker 15: It's I think it's part of part of being a 1404 01:09:10,347 --> 01:09:10,907 Speaker 15: Formula one, right. 1405 01:09:11,067 --> 01:09:15,107 Speaker 21: I think obviously you're never going to have everybody like 1406 01:09:15,187 --> 01:09:17,307 Speaker 21: you and and you know, I think for me, I've 1407 01:09:17,467 --> 01:09:21,587 Speaker 21: obviously had had experience of of coming into Formula one 1408 01:09:21,747 --> 01:09:24,587 Speaker 21: and the attention that comes with it, and you know, 1409 01:09:24,667 --> 01:09:27,387 Speaker 21: for me, I'm focused on on my on my job 1410 01:09:29,547 --> 01:09:32,187 Speaker 21: and on that side of it. I think everyone can 1411 01:09:32,227 --> 01:09:35,667 Speaker 21: have their own opinion and and that's you know, free 1412 01:09:35,787 --> 01:09:39,627 Speaker 21: free to them. So it's not something that really bothers me, 1413 01:09:39,707 --> 01:09:42,547 Speaker 21: but obviously it's something that's I sort of had a 1414 01:09:42,587 --> 01:09:45,787 Speaker 21: taste of and I'm definitely gonna gonna probably experience coming 1415 01:09:45,827 --> 01:09:47,907 Speaker 21: into into my first full season. 1416 01:09:48,067 --> 01:09:51,227 Speaker 2: That is Liam Lawson with his assorted thoughts on what 1417 01:09:51,387 --> 01:09:53,507 Speaker 2: is a very exciting year ahead for him as he 1418 01:09:53,787 --> 01:09:57,347 Speaker 2: moves into a full time seat in Formula One alongside 1419 01:09:57,427 --> 01:10:00,067 Speaker 2: Max for Step and we will keep very very close 1420 01:10:00,627 --> 01:10:03,667 Speaker 2: eyes on Liam Lawson in twenty twenty five. Set to 1421 01:10:03,707 --> 01:10:07,107 Speaker 2: be a huge highlight of the next sport year his 1422 01:10:07,267 --> 01:10:10,227 Speaker 2: performances in his first full time year in Formula One. 1423 01:10:10,627 --> 01:10:12,347 Speaker 2: Twenty one and a half away from two, We're going 1424 01:10:12,387 --> 01:10:14,507 Speaker 2: to take a break, come back with James mcconey, who 1425 01:10:14,547 --> 01:10:18,747 Speaker 2: I believe has some end of year awards to hand out. 1426 01:10:18,787 --> 01:10:21,307 Speaker 2: We're with James mcconey right after this on Weekend Sport. 1427 01:10:22,307 --> 01:10:25,227 Speaker 1: Would you be the TMO have your say on eight 1428 01:10:25,347 --> 01:10:30,427 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Pine and GJ. Guvnerholmes, 1429 01:10:30,627 --> 01:10:32,227 Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home. 1430 01:10:32,107 --> 01:10:36,187 Speaker 2: Builder News Talks eighteen away from two at this time 1431 01:10:36,267 --> 01:10:39,147 Speaker 2: every Sunday afternoon right across twenty twenty four, We've had 1432 01:10:39,147 --> 01:10:41,467 Speaker 2: the pleasure of the company of James mcconey. So for 1433 01:10:41,547 --> 01:10:44,827 Speaker 2: the last time in twenty twenty four, it's a very 1434 01:10:44,947 --> 01:10:46,627 Speaker 2: warm welcome to the show mate. How are you. 1435 01:10:47,587 --> 01:10:50,587 Speaker 8: I'm okay, thanks Piney. I'm still reeling a bit from 1436 01:10:50,707 --> 01:10:55,387 Speaker 8: Auckland their ce's loss yesterday, but fortunately we don't really 1437 01:10:55,427 --> 01:10:56,907 Speaker 8: have to talk about that because I've come up with 1438 01:10:56,947 --> 01:10:59,387 Speaker 8: some awards known as the Pineys. 1439 01:11:02,467 --> 01:11:05,987 Speaker 2: That's that's excellent, all right. Well, look I'm going to 1440 01:11:06,387 --> 01:11:09,787 Speaker 2: and over to you to hand out these pioneer awards. 1441 01:11:09,827 --> 01:11:10,827 Speaker 2: What have you got first up? 1442 01:11:11,587 --> 01:11:14,027 Speaker 8: Well, first up as the Putting New Zealand on the 1443 01:11:14,107 --> 01:11:25,667 Speaker 8: Map Award, and the wather is Chris Wood. Yes, that's 1444 01:11:25,747 --> 01:11:28,747 Speaker 8: the third on the goal scoring table in the English 1445 01:11:28,747 --> 01:11:32,547 Speaker 8: Premier League. I mean that's huge anyway, and recently this 1446 01:11:32,667 --> 01:11:35,147 Speaker 8: award has gone with Stephen Adams and Israel to sayn you, 1447 01:11:35,267 --> 01:11:38,147 Speaker 8: but Wood has been doing it at the highest level 1448 01:11:38,227 --> 01:11:42,107 Speaker 8: now for a long time and he's just been absolutely exceptional. Pony. 1449 01:11:42,547 --> 01:11:44,427 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was talking to someone about Chris Wood during 1450 01:11:44,427 --> 01:11:48,427 Speaker 2: the week and just this hasn't happened quickly. It hasn't 1451 01:11:48,427 --> 01:11:51,227 Speaker 2: been a straight line, has it from from Hamilton to 1452 01:11:51,347 --> 01:11:53,027 Speaker 2: the heights of the Premier League. There have been a 1453 01:11:53,067 --> 01:11:55,547 Speaker 2: lot of stops along the way for Chris Ward and 1454 01:11:55,667 --> 01:11:58,267 Speaker 2: just to see him now, you know, getting the fruits 1455 01:11:58,307 --> 01:12:01,547 Speaker 2: of all of that toil and labor, and to win 1456 01:12:01,627 --> 01:12:05,267 Speaker 2: a Pioneer award as well. I think this is tremendous 1457 01:12:05,587 --> 01:12:06,707 Speaker 2: for him off. 1458 01:12:06,627 --> 01:12:09,427 Speaker 8: To have a really great year. He'll be stoked. I'll 1459 01:12:09,427 --> 01:12:14,187 Speaker 8: accept it on his behalf. The next award is the 1460 01:12:14,467 --> 01:12:16,507 Speaker 8: who the hell is that award? Drum roll? 1461 01:12:16,587 --> 01:12:22,507 Speaker 9: Please, lu Luson. 1462 01:12:25,587 --> 01:12:31,747 Speaker 8: Unbelievable. We're out of nowhere. Ak Aka Tiano the Chinese, 1463 01:12:31,827 --> 01:12:36,147 Speaker 8: Croatian Swiss KIWI made the quarterfinals at Wimbledon, and we 1464 01:12:36,267 --> 01:12:37,867 Speaker 8: all started to watch Wimbledon again. 1465 01:12:38,067 --> 01:12:40,947 Speaker 2: Well I do, yeah, and I did too, And it's 1466 01:12:41,027 --> 01:12:44,587 Speaker 2: one of those, as you say, before Wimbledon started, how 1467 01:12:44,667 --> 01:12:48,387 Speaker 2: many of us really would have known who Lulusen Sun was. 1468 01:12:48,707 --> 01:12:52,387 Speaker 8: Is just incredible from here and now we've got, you know, 1469 01:12:52,547 --> 01:12:55,987 Speaker 8: tennis players coming out areas. I thought losing Cam Norrie 1470 01:12:56,067 --> 01:12:59,027 Speaker 8: was bad enough, but the women's game, we've got some stars, 1471 01:12:59,067 --> 01:13:02,747 Speaker 8: so that's great. The next award, Piney the KIWI Sporting 1472 01:13:02,867 --> 01:13:09,707 Speaker 8: Family of the Year. Drum roll, the hop thems. 1473 01:13:10,507 --> 01:13:16,347 Speaker 2: Yes, the Hothams, Yeah, well normally. 1474 01:13:16,107 --> 01:13:18,307 Speaker 8: The Barretts win this and I think the trophy is 1475 01:13:18,347 --> 01:13:20,587 Speaker 8: actually in their garden that's been there that long. But 1476 01:13:21,187 --> 01:13:23,707 Speaker 8: you know, we had Jasmine Felix Hope of winning gold 1477 01:13:23,827 --> 01:13:27,547 Speaker 8: in Paris and the rugby sevens No Hope of making 1478 01:13:27,627 --> 01:13:31,067 Speaker 8: his All Black stable who his brother Legend winning silver 1479 01:13:31,147 --> 01:13:33,987 Speaker 8: at the World Touch Champs, and their father Nigel Hope 1480 01:13:34,067 --> 01:13:36,787 Speaker 8: and was coach of the Hamelon Boys Fair fifteen, left 1481 01:13:36,827 --> 01:13:39,427 Speaker 8: the job to watch as children compete around the world, 1482 01:13:39,907 --> 01:13:41,907 Speaker 8: and that team Hamelon Boys went on to win the 1483 01:13:41,947 --> 01:13:43,947 Speaker 8: top four. Not that they can really claim it, but hey, 1484 01:13:45,227 --> 01:13:46,627 Speaker 8: high achieving sporting family. 1485 01:13:47,067 --> 01:13:49,467 Speaker 2: Imagine Christmas Day at their place, once they've had their 1486 01:13:49,547 --> 01:13:52,307 Speaker 2: Christmas lunch and that, and then they get out out 1487 01:13:52,307 --> 01:13:54,787 Speaker 2: in the back and get a bit competitive with you know, 1488 01:13:54,987 --> 01:13:56,387 Speaker 2: some Christmas Day games. 1489 01:13:56,747 --> 01:14:00,147 Speaker 8: Imagine that yeat a few Frisbees to the head. I'd 1490 01:14:00,227 --> 01:14:04,227 Speaker 8: say just because of the athleticism, not because of any malice, 1491 01:14:04,307 --> 01:14:08,267 Speaker 8: A very loving family, no, but yeah, it's just they're 1492 01:14:08,267 --> 01:14:10,867 Speaker 8: so good at everything. But yeah, I know badminton will 1493 01:14:10,907 --> 01:14:15,627 Speaker 8: be off the chart. So next up KIWI Sportsperson of 1494 01:14:15,747 --> 01:14:26,627 Speaker 8: the Year Dame Lisa Carrington. It's kind of hard to 1495 01:14:26,707 --> 01:14:27,627 Speaker 8: argue about one pointy. 1496 01:14:27,907 --> 01:14:31,427 Speaker 2: It really is. Yeah, although I must say, and I 1497 01:14:31,547 --> 01:14:34,267 Speaker 2: know she's won this award here, which is probably more 1498 01:14:34,307 --> 01:14:37,987 Speaker 2: prestigious than the Hallberg's, but I feel like she's got 1499 01:14:38,027 --> 01:14:41,267 Speaker 2: some fairly stiff competition in that Sportswoman of the Year 1500 01:14:41,307 --> 01:14:42,947 Speaker 2: category from Lydia Coe. 1501 01:14:43,107 --> 01:14:47,507 Speaker 8: Don't you think absolutely? Lydia Co has been amazing this 1502 01:14:47,627 --> 01:14:50,387 Speaker 8: whole year, but just the three Golds and winning the 1503 01:14:50,467 --> 01:14:56,187 Speaker 8: IOC award as well, the International Olympic Committee said you're 1504 01:14:56,307 --> 01:14:58,667 Speaker 8: the greatest Olympian living Olympian. I think it's sort of 1505 01:14:58,947 --> 01:15:03,787 Speaker 8: probably for previous efforts because it's nine three Golds in 1506 01:15:03,867 --> 01:15:07,627 Speaker 8: Paris and ninth Olympic medal overall, eight golden, one bronze. 1507 01:15:08,227 --> 01:15:11,907 Speaker 8: So yeah, Lydia a tough runner up, but hey, who knows. 1508 01:15:11,947 --> 01:15:16,387 Speaker 8: I mean, women's golf is massive, It's a big sport. 1509 01:15:17,027 --> 01:15:18,907 Speaker 2: Do you reckon, Lisa? Do you reckon? Dame Lisa will 1510 01:15:18,947 --> 01:15:19,507 Speaker 2: go round again? 1511 01:15:21,267 --> 01:15:24,307 Speaker 8: It sounds like she wants to. I mean, I mean 1512 01:15:24,667 --> 01:15:28,067 Speaker 8: she doesn't have to, but yeah, sounds like she just 1513 01:15:28,107 --> 01:15:30,827 Speaker 8: won't stop. I mean, obviously I was gunned about Amy 1514 01:15:30,867 --> 01:15:32,987 Speaker 8: Fisher not winning a medal in that race. That was 1515 01:15:33,027 --> 01:15:35,507 Speaker 8: probably one of the toughest things to watch was her 1516 01:15:35,587 --> 01:15:39,427 Speaker 8: coming forth, because I think that rivalry pushed Lisa to 1517 01:15:39,507 --> 01:15:43,707 Speaker 8: another year and I really thought that she deserves something 1518 01:15:43,787 --> 01:15:45,067 Speaker 8: out of that campaign. 1519 01:15:45,187 --> 01:15:48,067 Speaker 2: Amy Fisher, Yeah, and good to see Amy Fisher will 1520 01:15:48,107 --> 01:15:50,947 Speaker 2: go round again. She's confirmed that in the last little 1521 01:15:50,987 --> 01:15:53,187 Speaker 2: while that she will go for another Olympic cycle. So 1522 01:15:53,307 --> 01:15:55,507 Speaker 2: that is great news. So we wait to see with 1523 01:15:55,627 --> 01:15:59,507 Speaker 2: Dame Lisa any more awards or if that is, I've. 1524 01:15:58,987 --> 01:16:00,067 Speaker 8: Got three more rush. 1525 01:15:59,867 --> 01:16:00,427 Speaker 9: Streets, we'll go. 1526 01:16:00,667 --> 01:16:02,107 Speaker 2: No, no, you don't have to rush. 1527 01:16:02,987 --> 01:16:11,627 Speaker 8: Okay, the New Heights Award, Here you go. Hamish Kerr. Oh, yes, 1528 01:16:14,667 --> 01:16:17,747 Speaker 8: let doing new hike a gold medal of high jump. 1529 01:16:17,787 --> 01:16:19,867 Speaker 8: We've never done it before obviously Evatt Williams in the 1530 01:16:19,907 --> 01:16:22,667 Speaker 8: long jump on Olympic gold back in Helsinkire fifty two. 1531 01:16:22,787 --> 01:16:26,907 Speaker 8: But I mean just the way he insisted on a 1532 01:16:26,987 --> 01:16:29,267 Speaker 8: jump off to find a clear winner as well, going 1533 01:16:29,427 --> 01:16:32,067 Speaker 8: we're going to we're going to sort this out and 1534 01:16:32,347 --> 01:16:34,227 Speaker 8: uh and they did and he came out on top, 1535 01:16:34,267 --> 01:16:37,507 Speaker 8: which was incredible stuff. So I think we we we 1536 01:16:37,587 --> 01:16:40,347 Speaker 8: sort of knew he was a he was an amazing talent, 1537 01:16:40,907 --> 01:16:43,147 Speaker 8: but just doing that in a clutch moment in Paris, 1538 01:16:43,227 --> 01:16:45,107 Speaker 8: I thought was exceptional. 1539 01:16:45,507 --> 01:16:46,027 Speaker 2: Yep, love it. 1540 01:16:47,187 --> 01:16:55,747 Speaker 8: Okay, next up International Sportsperson of the Year. There can 1541 01:16:55,867 --> 01:17:05,947 Speaker 8: be only one Reagan. Yeah, the whales have come off. 1542 01:17:05,987 --> 01:17:11,027 Speaker 8: This is the awards. Unfortunately everyone's going, Oh Maconie's keeping 1543 01:17:11,067 --> 01:17:14,587 Speaker 8: it pretty straight. But yeah, look she came, she saw, 1544 01:17:15,187 --> 01:17:18,747 Speaker 8: she rides on the ground. She showed that standing out 1545 01:17:18,987 --> 01:17:22,987 Speaker 8: is as big as being outstanding. And with her lawyers 1546 01:17:23,027 --> 01:17:26,507 Speaker 8: threatening to sue the creator of Reagan the Musical in Australia, 1547 01:17:26,907 --> 01:17:29,787 Speaker 8: she continues to be in the news. Name another Olympic 1548 01:17:29,867 --> 01:17:30,667 Speaker 8: athlete who is. 1549 01:17:31,307 --> 01:17:33,987 Speaker 2: Well, I can't, I can't. So Reagan seems like an 1550 01:17:34,027 --> 01:17:36,027 Speaker 2: appropriate winner here she. 1551 01:17:36,107 --> 01:17:43,067 Speaker 8: Wins the Piney Poney fair enough. Finally the Missed Opportunity Award. 1552 01:17:47,907 --> 01:17:53,747 Speaker 8: This goes to the headline Riders of the World. Yeah, 1553 01:17:54,907 --> 01:17:59,787 Speaker 8: after French Paul Walter Anthony Amavati knocked the bar off 1554 01:17:59,907 --> 01:18:04,147 Speaker 8: with his genitals, there was only one good headline around 1555 01:18:04,187 --> 01:18:08,587 Speaker 8: the world Poney, which was he lost the battle with 1556 01:18:08,707 --> 01:18:12,827 Speaker 8: his bulge. It's quite good, you know. And then meanwhile 1557 01:18:13,027 --> 01:18:17,467 Speaker 8: the Daily Mail said Olympic dream shattered by his own penis. 1558 01:18:17,587 --> 01:18:21,387 Speaker 8: I mean, that's just put some effort into it. Where 1559 01:18:21,507 --> 01:18:23,227 Speaker 8: is the subtlety? 1560 01:18:23,987 --> 01:18:27,547 Speaker 2: It was the pun, where's the where's the where's the cleverness, 1561 01:18:27,547 --> 01:18:31,787 Speaker 2: where's the where's the the ingenuousness? If there is such 1562 01:18:31,827 --> 01:18:32,187 Speaker 2: a word. 1563 01:18:32,987 --> 01:18:35,307 Speaker 8: So here's some suggestions what they could have done. Maybe 1564 01:18:35,347 --> 01:18:37,067 Speaker 8: I used to write headlines back in the day for 1565 01:18:37,187 --> 01:18:41,667 Speaker 8: the Sunday Papers. How about failed pole vault? Was his 1566 01:18:41,827 --> 01:18:49,747 Speaker 8: pole's fault? What a flop shuang jump was the one 1567 01:18:49,787 --> 01:18:52,987 Speaker 8: that I came up with? And also one eyed trouser mistake. 1568 01:18:54,787 --> 01:18:56,427 Speaker 2: See those are all magnificent. 1569 01:18:57,307 --> 01:18:57,667 Speaker 9: Thank you. 1570 01:18:58,867 --> 01:19:01,147 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I feel like you're right. 1571 01:19:01,147 --> 01:19:03,107 Speaker 2: I mean, the Missed Opportunity Award should go to the 1572 01:19:03,147 --> 01:19:05,507 Speaker 2: headline riders of the world, but surely you should. You 1573 01:19:05,547 --> 01:19:09,747 Speaker 2: should accept on their behalf due to your excellence in 1574 01:19:09,787 --> 01:19:10,267 Speaker 2: this area. 1575 01:19:11,027 --> 01:19:14,987 Speaker 8: I can't give myself a poney. Yeah it's tough. I 1576 01:19:15,067 --> 01:19:18,587 Speaker 8: mean I wish I could, but yeah, we'll have to 1577 01:19:18,627 --> 01:19:22,107 Speaker 8: bail those out, all the headline riders everywhere. But yeah, 1578 01:19:22,107 --> 01:19:25,827 Speaker 8: that's and I know that we're people wondering, Hey, James, 1579 01:19:25,907 --> 01:19:28,747 Speaker 8: what are your predictions for twenty twenty five? Everyone's thinking it. 1580 01:19:30,627 --> 01:19:33,187 Speaker 8: But I don't have to wait for another couple of weeks. 1581 01:19:33,347 --> 01:19:35,347 Speaker 8: I think you're doing the best I've shown. Next week 1582 01:19:35,427 --> 01:19:37,627 Speaker 8: not that I want to spoil the surprise, So in 1583 01:19:37,667 --> 01:19:39,587 Speaker 8: a couple of weeks I'll be back with some predictions. 1584 01:19:40,227 --> 01:19:43,907 Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff, great work all year and in particular today 1585 01:19:43,907 --> 01:19:46,307 Speaker 2: with your awards. James, do you have a good sort 1586 01:19:46,307 --> 01:19:48,947 Speaker 2: of festive season Christmas New Year type period? But yeah, 1587 01:19:48,987 --> 01:19:50,347 Speaker 2: we'll get you back on the tools in a couple 1588 01:19:50,387 --> 01:19:51,227 Speaker 2: of weeks if that's okay. 1589 01:19:52,067 --> 01:19:53,867 Speaker 8: Cheers Pony, Yeah, Merry Christmas to everyone. 1590 01:19:53,867 --> 01:19:55,267 Speaker 9: I hope you have a great holiday. 1591 01:19:55,387 --> 01:19:59,587 Speaker 8: Stay safe, have fun and enjoy yourselves out there. Play 1592 01:19:59,627 --> 01:20:01,947 Speaker 8: some play some frisbee like the Hope ofs Why not? 1593 01:20:02,627 --> 01:20:02,907 Speaker 9: Why not? 1594 01:20:03,027 --> 01:20:05,667 Speaker 2: Indeed, James mcconey a huge part of our Sundays here 1595 01:20:05,707 --> 01:20:08,987 Speaker 2: on weekends. We love having him join us every Sunday afternoon. 1596 01:20:09,067 --> 01:20:12,147 Speaker 2: Around about this time he's handed out his awards. Congratulations 1597 01:20:12,227 --> 01:20:15,707 Speaker 2: to Chris Wood, Lulusun, the Hotham Family, Dame Luca Carrington, 1598 01:20:15,747 --> 01:20:19,227 Speaker 2: Hamish kur Raygun and the headline writers of the World 1599 01:20:19,547 --> 01:20:24,587 Speaker 2: picking up James mcconie's Pioneer Awards for twenty twenty four 1600 01:20:25,307 --> 01:20:31,747 Speaker 2: eight Away from two News Talks Eboo. 1601 01:20:29,267 --> 01:20:32,187 Speaker 1: From the Track Fields and the Court on your HomeOS 1602 01:20:32,227 --> 01:20:35,907 Speaker 1: Lord Weekends for It with Jason Vine News Talks. 1603 01:20:35,707 --> 01:20:39,187 Speaker 2: MB five to two after the two o'clock News. In 1604 01:20:39,307 --> 01:20:40,747 Speaker 2: case you missed it, which is one of the more 1605 01:20:40,827 --> 01:20:43,107 Speaker 2: popular features of our show, we bring you up to 1606 01:20:43,187 --> 01:20:44,667 Speaker 2: date with some of the stuff you might have missed 1607 01:20:44,947 --> 01:20:47,227 Speaker 2: over the last twenty four hours or so. Luke Littler 1608 01:20:47,387 --> 01:20:49,387 Speaker 2: is in there. It took him a long time, didn't 1609 01:20:49,427 --> 01:20:52,587 Speaker 2: it to get onto the ockey at the World Darts Champs. 1610 01:20:52,627 --> 01:20:53,827 Speaker 2: They see him be going for about a week and 1611 01:20:53,907 --> 01:20:57,387 Speaker 2: he finally got out there. Love the darts, absolutely love it. Yeah, 1612 01:20:57,427 --> 01:21:01,507 Speaker 2: Luke Litler's part of that. Also after two o'clock some 1613 01:21:01,707 --> 01:21:05,787 Speaker 2: Super Smash Cricket Our domestic T twenty cricket competition. The 1614 01:21:06,467 --> 01:21:10,027 Speaker 2: Still a Dream eleven Super Smash Presumeters starts on Boxing Day. 1615 01:21:10,547 --> 01:21:14,427 Speaker 2: Men's and women's double headers starts with Northern Districts and 1616 01:21:14,507 --> 01:21:17,947 Speaker 2: Auckland meeting in Hamilton on Thursday, which is Boxing Day 1617 01:21:18,707 --> 01:21:21,227 Speaker 2: the women followed by the men and then goes all 1618 01:21:21,227 --> 01:21:24,267 Speaker 2: the way through. There are games in Alexandra on Friday 1619 01:21:24,267 --> 01:21:27,027 Speaker 2: and again on Sunday, then doubleheaders pretty much every day 1620 01:21:27,587 --> 01:21:30,467 Speaker 2: from New Year's Eve through the month of January. Finals 1621 01:21:30,507 --> 01:21:34,267 Speaker 2: weekend is in Wellington on February first and second I 1622 01:21:34,307 --> 01:21:37,147 Speaker 2: think the way they do it is the top the 1623 01:21:37,267 --> 01:21:39,707 Speaker 2: top team after the round robin goes straight into the 1624 01:21:39,747 --> 01:21:42,867 Speaker 2: final and two v three for the right to play them. 1625 01:21:42,947 --> 01:21:44,827 Speaker 2: So those semis, if you want to call them, that 1626 01:21:44,907 --> 01:21:47,267 Speaker 2: are on the Saturday, February the first, and then the 1627 01:21:47,347 --> 01:21:50,947 Speaker 2: finals on the Sunday, February second. I mentioned before about 1628 01:21:50,947 --> 01:21:54,667 Speaker 2: the possibility of playing a game today as part of 1629 01:21:54,667 --> 01:21:57,827 Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl series. A few people have pointed out, actually, 1630 01:21:57,947 --> 01:22:00,507 Speaker 2: three P fifty over matches and three consecutive days is 1631 01:22:01,667 --> 01:22:03,747 Speaker 2: that's tough, YAKA, they could add a T twenty game today. 1632 01:22:03,747 --> 01:22:06,787 Speaker 2: They couldn't they? I don't know anyway. And what we'll 1633 01:22:06,827 --> 01:22:09,947 Speaker 2: also do after two o'clock, given that it is our 1634 01:22:10,187 --> 01:22:13,787 Speaker 2: final show before Christmas is James alluded to next Sunday 1635 01:22:13,987 --> 01:22:16,187 Speaker 2: is our year in review. That's when we review the 1636 01:22:16,267 --> 01:22:18,347 Speaker 2: whole year. But we do have a couple of our 1637 01:22:18,427 --> 01:22:21,147 Speaker 2: favorite interviews that we would like to replay for you, 1638 01:22:21,827 --> 01:22:23,507 Speaker 2: just as a bit of a Christmas makes it really 1639 01:22:23,587 --> 01:22:26,107 Speaker 2: more than anything. We'll do that after two o'clock as well. 1640 01:22:27,107 --> 01:22:31,267 Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues, 1641 01:22:32,067 --> 01:22:36,947 Speaker 1: the big controversies, and the big conversations, it's all on 1642 01:22:37,107 --> 01:22:40,867 Speaker 1: weekend Sport with Jason Vime on your home of Sport 1643 01:22:41,347 --> 01:22:42,467 Speaker 1: News Talks had been. 1644 01:22:43,947 --> 01:22:47,067 Speaker 2: Two oh seven, Hello, this is Weekend Sport for another hour, 1645 01:22:47,267 --> 01:22:50,387 Speaker 2: and then Tim Beverage in with the Weekend Collective Sunday edition. 1646 01:22:51,067 --> 01:22:52,747 Speaker 2: Last one before Christmas. Seems like a lot of the 1647 01:22:52,787 --> 01:22:54,507 Speaker 2: stuff we do at the moment is the last one 1648 01:22:54,987 --> 01:22:58,667 Speaker 2: before Christmas. If you're out and about shopping, hope it's 1649 01:22:58,667 --> 01:23:01,587 Speaker 2: going well. Hope parks are magically opening up for you 1650 01:23:01,867 --> 01:23:05,147 Speaker 2: when you enter shopping malls. Let's do it a couple 1651 01:23:05,187 --> 01:23:08,627 Speaker 2: of days, haven't you? What if anybody has not yet begun? 1652 01:23:08,947 --> 01:23:10,907 Speaker 2: I'm sure there are people who have not yet begun. 1653 01:23:11,267 --> 01:23:12,787 Speaker 2: You always go out on the day a couple of 1654 01:23:12,827 --> 01:23:15,187 Speaker 2: days before Christmas, aren't you? When you see often men 1655 01:23:16,427 --> 01:23:19,787 Speaker 2: just with that look of desperation on their face running 1656 01:23:19,827 --> 01:23:24,107 Speaker 2: into jewelry stores with their credit card already out, just 1657 01:23:24,587 --> 01:23:28,627 Speaker 2: just wanting something anything. Not me, I was sort of 1658 01:23:28,707 --> 01:23:31,587 Speaker 2: ages ago. That's the only non strategy for Christmas shopping fining. 1659 01:23:31,627 --> 01:23:35,267 Speaker 2: I think, yes, Well, does it surprise me that you're 1660 01:23:35,307 --> 01:23:38,387 Speaker 2: in that cannident credit card and hand just running around 1661 01:23:38,627 --> 01:23:39,747 Speaker 2: saying take my money. 1662 01:23:39,587 --> 01:23:39,827 Speaker 9: Will you? 1663 01:23:39,947 --> 01:23:42,147 Speaker 2: And then suddenly it's decline everywhere, but that's done by 1664 01:23:42,227 --> 01:23:45,747 Speaker 2: the bye. Indeed, we digress anyway, Thanks for spending some 1665 01:23:45,827 --> 01:23:48,427 Speaker 2: time with us. Maybe as you're driving around, we're going 1666 01:23:48,507 --> 01:23:52,107 Speaker 2: to drill down into this year's domestic super smash shortly 1667 01:23:52,187 --> 01:23:55,507 Speaker 2: couple of domestic captains Luke Georgison out of Otago, Nick 1668 01:23:55,587 --> 01:23:57,987 Speaker 2: Kelly from Wellington in case you missed it. Coming up 1669 01:23:58,507 --> 01:24:00,067 Speaker 2: before the end of the hour too, we're going to 1670 01:24:00,987 --> 01:24:04,427 Speaker 2: update you on the World Darts Championship. It's kind of well, 1671 01:24:04,427 --> 01:24:06,147 Speaker 2: they've been going for a bit, they get a bit 1672 01:24:06,147 --> 01:24:08,227 Speaker 2: of a break at Christmas, then back for the new year. 1673 01:24:08,587 --> 01:24:12,987 Speaker 2: Luke Littler has featured for the first time today. Luke Humphries, 1674 01:24:13,067 --> 01:24:16,667 Speaker 2: the reigning world champion, has already threw safely. He he 1675 01:24:16,867 --> 01:24:19,307 Speaker 2: was involved quite early on in the piece. Ben Francis 1676 01:24:19,507 --> 01:24:21,987 Speaker 2: is going to join us, host of the Kiwi Darts 1677 01:24:22,027 --> 01:24:24,027 Speaker 2: podcast and one of our colleagues here at News Talks 1678 01:24:24,027 --> 01:24:25,907 Speaker 2: head Beat, just to give us some of the things 1679 01:24:25,947 --> 01:24:28,467 Speaker 2: to talk out for over the World Darts champs as 1680 01:24:28,467 --> 01:24:31,147 Speaker 2: we get beyond the first round and into the business 1681 01:24:31,307 --> 01:24:34,227 Speaker 2: end of that, and as I say, your causing correspondents 1682 01:24:34,267 --> 01:24:36,347 Speaker 2: continue to be welcomed if you'd like eight hundred and 1683 01:24:36,387 --> 01:24:39,307 Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is our phone number nine two nine 1684 01:24:39,387 --> 01:24:42,547 Speaker 2: two if you would prefer to correspond with us via text. 1685 01:24:43,227 --> 01:24:45,827 Speaker 2: But as we approach nine past two, as we always 1686 01:24:45,867 --> 01:24:49,387 Speaker 2: do it about this time on weekend sport, it's time 1687 01:24:49,427 --> 01:24:50,867 Speaker 2: to catch you up well some of the stuff that's 1688 01:24:50,907 --> 01:24:55,787 Speaker 2: been happening outside of your consciousness. Perhaps this is a 1689 01:24:55,827 --> 01:24:59,387 Speaker 2: lot going on at this time of the year. It's 1690 01:24:59,427 --> 01:25:00,947 Speaker 2: called in case you missed it, and we start in 1691 01:25:00,987 --> 01:25:04,867 Speaker 2: the Premier League. Arsenal piling on the goals against Crystal Palace. 1692 01:25:05,027 --> 01:25:11,747 Speaker 22: Right beautiful, That's that's the seal. All an impressive evenings 1693 01:25:11,827 --> 01:25:17,227 Speaker 22: were declin brikes. Makes it five with a precise finish 1694 01:25:17,307 --> 01:25:18,707 Speaker 22: into the bar light hand corner. 1695 01:25:18,907 --> 01:25:22,627 Speaker 2: Yeah, five to one, Arsenal over Crystal Palace, away easton 1696 01:25:22,707 --> 01:25:29,387 Speaker 2: Villamine time continued. Manchester City's Missouri, it's Bichinnie, it's Roches, Roches. 1697 01:25:30,867 --> 01:25:31,507 Speaker 17: What's it gold? 1698 01:25:32,307 --> 01:25:33,067 Speaker 10: What wagel? 1699 01:25:34,027 --> 01:25:34,387 Speaker 7: Fur's that? 1700 01:25:34,587 --> 01:25:40,067 Speaker 3: Celebrations number a score again Chester. 1701 01:25:39,907 --> 01:25:42,747 Speaker 2: City hitting you are more of. 1702 01:25:42,787 --> 01:25:47,227 Speaker 4: The foundations from the Empire of the Pelas purch trimbling. 1703 01:25:47,667 --> 01:25:50,467 Speaker 2: Yes, so Manchester City down to sixth. Now Eston Villa 1704 01:25:50,587 --> 01:25:52,587 Speaker 2: jump over the top of them into fifth place with 1705 01:25:52,707 --> 01:25:56,427 Speaker 2: that two one win to Crickets Big Bash, A thriller 1706 01:25:56,707 --> 01:25:57,707 Speaker 2: in the Sydney Derby. 1707 01:25:58,267 --> 01:26:02,947 Speaker 22: Wonder when Dorsus wakes the green, it's short, he pushes 1708 01:26:02,987 --> 01:26:04,747 Speaker 22: the signal and they're gonna get home. 1709 01:26:04,707 --> 01:26:08,267 Speaker 15: Far too easy, the Sixers winning off the final ball. 1710 01:26:08,387 --> 01:26:13,027 Speaker 22: Benny Dorsis twenty bright steers the Sixers home and this 1711 01:26:13,227 --> 01:26:14,787 Speaker 22: team I've never ever. 1712 01:26:14,867 --> 01:26:18,867 Speaker 2: Ever Beaten has mentioned. Luke Littler has appeared for the 1713 01:26:18,947 --> 01:26:22,707 Speaker 2: first time at the World Dance Championships, runner up last year. 1714 01:26:22,747 --> 01:26:26,787 Speaker 7: Of course that's a ten data and another eleven to 1715 01:26:26,987 --> 01:26:28,707 Speaker 7: winships were for. 1716 01:26:28,747 --> 01:26:31,747 Speaker 15: The most starship sis You'll never. 1717 01:26:31,707 --> 01:26:36,987 Speaker 3: See one hundred and forty one set bridge for the 1718 01:26:37,107 --> 01:26:40,747 Speaker 3: Loop Fleckler and back to football to finish or win 1719 01:26:40,867 --> 01:26:44,267 Speaker 3: for the Wellington Phoenix Women, propelling them into the top 1720 01:26:44,387 --> 01:26:45,747 Speaker 3: four of the A League. 1721 01:26:45,947 --> 01:26:47,947 Speaker 2: They continue to commit numbers forward. 1722 01:26:49,227 --> 01:26:55,587 Speaker 23: Wellington and mcneakin doubles the league. It was a powerful hitter, 1723 01:26:56,187 --> 01:27:00,347 Speaker 23: it had been coming through out the second half and 1724 01:27:00,627 --> 01:27:02,147 Speaker 23: the number two rises in. 1725 01:27:02,187 --> 01:27:03,307 Speaker 2: Heads home win. 1726 01:27:03,387 --> 01:27:05,627 Speaker 1: It's down to the line. You made a call on 1727 01:27:05,987 --> 01:27:10,507 Speaker 1: Wait You're eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Hine, News Talk. 1728 01:27:10,427 --> 01:27:13,627 Speaker 2: Zmb Bang on eleven Pass to our domestic TA Twity 1729 01:27:13,667 --> 01:27:17,387 Speaker 2: cricket competition starts on Boxing Day, Men's and women's double headers, 1730 01:27:17,667 --> 01:27:20,707 Speaker 2: starting with Northern against Auckland and Hamilton on Thursday, which 1731 01:27:20,747 --> 01:27:24,627 Speaker 2: is Boxing Day, Otago v. Canterbury and Alexandra on Friday, 1732 01:27:24,787 --> 01:27:28,707 Speaker 2: Otago v Auckland and Alexandra on Sunday, and then double 1733 01:27:28,707 --> 01:27:31,947 Speaker 2: aheaders pretty much every day from New Year's Eve through 1734 01:27:32,107 --> 01:27:35,867 Speaker 2: the month of January. Finals weekend February one and two 1735 01:27:36,227 --> 01:27:40,627 Speaker 2: in Wellington. Recently, the competition had an official lorn ship 1736 01:27:40,707 --> 01:27:42,547 Speaker 2: during which I spoke to a couple of captains. First 1737 01:27:42,587 --> 01:27:46,267 Speaker 2: of all Otago Men's captain Luke Georgison, I asked them 1738 01:27:46,307 --> 01:27:49,187 Speaker 2: how they were placed heading into the Super Smash season. 1739 01:27:49,507 --> 01:27:50,227 Speaker 2: Really good, thank you. 1740 01:27:50,467 --> 01:27:52,987 Speaker 24: We've sort of had a reasonable start to the season 1741 01:27:53,027 --> 01:27:54,587 Speaker 24: with some positive signs. We had a new coach on 1742 01:27:54,627 --> 01:27:58,107 Speaker 24: board in Ashnofky this year and he's not reinventing the world, 1743 01:27:58,107 --> 01:27:59,507 Speaker 24: but he's got some good ideas for us, so we're 1744 01:27:59,507 --> 01:28:00,227 Speaker 24: really looking forward to it. 1745 01:28:00,427 --> 01:28:02,267 Speaker 2: The way the season structured, it's the same for everybody. 1746 01:28:02,307 --> 01:28:04,147 Speaker 2: You play some red ball, you play some for trophy. 1747 01:28:04,667 --> 01:28:06,587 Speaker 2: Is that a challenge to then switch to to T 1748 01:28:06,747 --> 01:28:09,667 Speaker 2: twenty mode just after Christmas, No, I don't think so. 1749 01:28:09,747 --> 01:28:11,907 Speaker 24: I think like the fundamental stay consystem along it. But 1750 01:28:11,987 --> 01:28:13,907 Speaker 24: it's always a bit of fun come around Christmas time 1751 01:28:13,947 --> 01:28:15,507 Speaker 24: for the teacherny stuff. I think the guys do look 1752 01:28:15,507 --> 01:28:17,467 Speaker 24: forward to it, the slog of the playing at Shield 1753 01:28:17,467 --> 01:28:18,507 Speaker 24: at the start of the year and you sort of 1754 01:28:18,547 --> 01:28:19,747 Speaker 24: have the fun stuff over Christmas. 1755 01:28:19,827 --> 01:28:23,387 Speaker 2: So the move to Otago from Wellington, can you talk 1756 01:28:23,427 --> 01:28:24,347 Speaker 2: us through how that came about? 1757 01:28:24,427 --> 01:28:27,267 Speaker 24: First of all, Yeah, it was just an opportunity thing. Obviously, 1758 01:28:27,707 --> 01:28:29,307 Speaker 24: spent a bit of time playing for Wellington, loved my 1759 01:28:29,347 --> 01:28:30,987 Speaker 24: tie out there, but there was a good opportunity down 1760 01:28:30,987 --> 01:28:33,467 Speaker 24: in Otago to play a different role and give it 1761 01:28:33,467 --> 01:28:34,067 Speaker 24: a crack down there. 1762 01:28:34,067 --> 01:28:34,827 Speaker 12: So it's been awesome. 1763 01:28:35,467 --> 01:28:38,107 Speaker 24: Obviously, really enjoyed my time playing for Wellington, but the 1764 01:28:38,187 --> 01:28:39,507 Speaker 24: timing was right to go down and give it a 1765 01:28:39,587 --> 01:28:40,107 Speaker 24: crack down there. 1766 01:28:40,187 --> 01:28:42,347 Speaker 2: So I guess hindsight's always twenty twenty. But it has 1767 01:28:42,387 --> 01:28:44,147 Speaker 2: worked out well for you. You're happy with the way 1768 01:28:44,187 --> 01:28:45,667 Speaker 2: things are working out for you down there. 1769 01:28:45,747 --> 01:28:47,507 Speaker 24: Yeah, it's been awesome. Like I said, the opportunity to 1770 01:28:47,507 --> 01:28:49,187 Speaker 24: play a different role has been quite cool. Obviously a 1771 01:28:49,187 --> 01:28:51,747 Speaker 24: bit more responsibily with the ball and then now I 1772 01:28:51,867 --> 01:28:54,027 Speaker 24: see captaining, so it's been cool to take that on 1773 01:28:54,067 --> 01:28:55,867 Speaker 24: and we've got a really good group of young guys, 1774 01:28:55,947 --> 01:28:57,067 Speaker 24: so really enjoying it. 1775 01:28:57,947 --> 01:29:00,667 Speaker 2: What is your captaincy experience coming up through the age grades. 1776 01:29:01,067 --> 01:29:03,307 Speaker 2: Is this something that's familiar to you. 1777 01:29:03,627 --> 01:29:05,027 Speaker 24: I've done a little bit. We had a quite a 1778 01:29:05,027 --> 01:29:07,347 Speaker 24: lot of club cricket and so over here and Wellington 1779 01:29:07,347 --> 01:29:07,627 Speaker 24: and did a. 1780 01:29:07,627 --> 01:29:08,307 Speaker 2: Bit of the a stuff. 1781 01:29:08,307 --> 01:29:09,427 Speaker 24: But it was a bit of a surprise when I 1782 01:29:09,467 --> 01:29:11,027 Speaker 24: got asked, obviously in a second year to do it 1783 01:29:11,067 --> 01:29:13,107 Speaker 24: down there, and it's obviously a different kettle of fish 1784 01:29:13,187 --> 01:29:14,667 Speaker 24: doing it at a domestic level. 1785 01:29:14,707 --> 01:29:15,307 Speaker 15: But it's been cool. 1786 01:29:15,347 --> 01:29:17,947 Speaker 24: The game doesn't change much, but yes, probably a bit 1787 01:29:17,987 --> 01:29:18,307 Speaker 24: more on it. 1788 01:29:18,427 --> 01:29:21,187 Speaker 2: So I've always wondered with captain two bowl, how do 1789 01:29:21,267 --> 01:29:23,947 Speaker 2: you work out Winter Bowl. I was actually lucky. 1790 01:29:23,947 --> 01:29:25,147 Speaker 24: I was ended at the start of the season, so 1791 01:29:25,307 --> 01:29:26,947 Speaker 24: just plan as a bad so that was probably a 1792 01:29:26,947 --> 01:29:29,867 Speaker 24: blessing in disguise. Obviously talk a lot with the coach 1793 01:29:29,907 --> 01:29:32,427 Speaker 24: about plans and stuff like that, but I have a 1794 01:29:32,467 --> 01:29:34,747 Speaker 24: reasonable role to play with the ball on the side, 1795 01:29:34,787 --> 01:29:37,147 Speaker 24: so it's always pretty easy. But I do find myself 1796 01:29:37,187 --> 01:29:39,347 Speaker 24: bawling into the wind a bit, so no excuse is there, 1797 01:29:39,427 --> 01:29:40,507 Speaker 24: but and in T. 1798 01:29:40,627 --> 01:29:42,547 Speaker 2: Twenty cricket, things can change in the matter of a 1799 01:29:42,627 --> 01:29:45,867 Speaker 2: few deliveries, right, how sharp you know, do you perceive 1800 01:29:45,947 --> 01:29:47,987 Speaker 2: you'll need to be as a T twenty captain? 1801 01:29:48,187 --> 01:29:48,347 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1802 01:29:48,387 --> 01:29:49,147 Speaker 2: Obviously very sharp. 1803 01:29:49,147 --> 01:29:50,227 Speaker 24: I haven't played a heck of a lot of T 1804 01:29:50,387 --> 01:29:52,827 Speaker 24: twenty crickets, so that'll be that'll be interesting. 1805 01:29:52,947 --> 01:29:54,147 Speaker 2: But yeah, you've got to be on the ball the 1806 01:29:54,187 --> 01:29:54,507 Speaker 2: whole time. 1807 01:29:54,507 --> 01:29:56,547 Speaker 24: Obviously there's overrate pressure as well, so everything has to 1808 01:29:56,547 --> 01:29:59,347 Speaker 24: happen quite quickly. That's sort of the exciting part about 1809 01:29:59,347 --> 01:30:01,467 Speaker 24: it is it's so action packed and so helter skelter. 1810 01:30:01,627 --> 01:30:03,387 Speaker 15: So yeah, but I think you do definitely need to 1811 01:30:03,387 --> 01:30:03,827 Speaker 15: be on the ball. 1812 01:30:03,947 --> 01:30:05,667 Speaker 2: So and you seem to say some of your best 1813 01:30:05,707 --> 01:30:09,827 Speaker 2: performances four games against Wellington last summer. Can you can 1814 01:30:09,907 --> 01:30:11,827 Speaker 2: you tell us why that was? Was it simply or 1815 01:30:11,867 --> 01:30:13,427 Speaker 2: this is old team, I'm gonna lift my game, or 1816 01:30:13,507 --> 01:30:14,827 Speaker 2: was it just it just seemed to happen that way 1817 01:30:14,867 --> 01:30:16,307 Speaker 2: on those days? Yeah, I do think it seemed to 1818 01:30:16,347 --> 01:30:17,507 Speaker 2: happen that way. It is a good laugh. 1819 01:30:17,507 --> 01:30:19,667 Speaker 24: I ever good laugh at the boys about it, but yeah, 1820 01:30:19,667 --> 01:30:20,907 Speaker 24: it was. It was good to get a few over 1821 01:30:20,947 --> 01:30:23,467 Speaker 24: them to start with. And we've had a good couple sorry, 1822 01:30:23,507 --> 01:30:25,747 Speaker 24: a good couple of battles since so but no, nothing 1823 01:30:25,867 --> 01:30:27,147 Speaker 24: change has been to play against Ennisoid. 1824 01:30:27,267 --> 01:30:29,547 Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, and just to finish just on 1825 01:30:29,587 --> 01:30:31,947 Speaker 2: the T twenty competition as a whole, it feels very 1826 01:30:32,027 --> 01:30:33,987 Speaker 2: even and I think T twenty that's the nature of it, right, 1827 01:30:34,067 --> 01:30:36,227 Speaker 2: Any team can be another team on any day. Do 1828 01:30:36,547 --> 01:30:37,867 Speaker 2: you go out there just wanting to win every game 1829 01:30:37,907 --> 01:30:39,427 Speaker 2: to win the whole thing? I think that's the plan. 1830 01:30:39,787 --> 01:30:40,987 Speaker 24: I think a few of the black Cats boys are 1831 01:30:40,987 --> 01:30:42,347 Speaker 24: going to be available as well throughout, so I think 1832 01:30:42,387 --> 01:30:44,027 Speaker 24: the standard is going to be really good and that's 1833 01:30:44,027 --> 01:30:45,827 Speaker 24: what the people want to see, I think so. But 1834 01:30:45,987 --> 01:30:47,507 Speaker 24: yeah again you've just got to try one as many 1835 01:30:47,547 --> 01:30:49,227 Speaker 24: games as you can and get yourself into the finals 1836 01:30:49,267 --> 01:30:50,507 Speaker 24: somehow and who knows. 1837 01:30:50,387 --> 01:30:51,267 Speaker 15: What can happen from there. 1838 01:30:51,347 --> 01:30:53,987 Speaker 2: So yeah, all the best, good chat cheers, Piney, thank you. 1839 01:30:54,187 --> 01:30:57,347 Speaker 2: That is Luke Georgeison, captain of the Otago men's side. 1840 01:30:57,427 --> 01:31:00,027 Speaker 2: So they open against Canterbury and Alexandra Muler New Park, 1841 01:31:00,067 --> 01:31:03,347 Speaker 2: beautiful beautiful crack around Friday, and then back up against 1842 01:31:03,347 --> 01:31:08,107 Speaker 2: Auckland same ground on Sunday to Wellington and the captain 1843 01:31:08,147 --> 01:31:11,107 Speaker 2: of them inside, Nick Kelly who was. I spoke to 1844 01:31:11,187 --> 01:31:13,667 Speaker 2: it the recent T twenty launch shard to get a 1845 01:31:13,707 --> 01:31:16,027 Speaker 2: gauge on how the Firebirds are placed ahead of the 1846 01:31:16,067 --> 01:31:17,227 Speaker 2: competition getting underway. 1847 01:31:17,667 --> 01:31:18,387 Speaker 6: Yeah, really exciting. 1848 01:31:18,387 --> 01:31:21,147 Speaker 25: Obviously, we had a pretty good year last year, made 1849 01:31:21,187 --> 01:31:23,627 Speaker 25: the Semis, which was nice. But yeah, the squad's looking 1850 01:31:23,627 --> 01:31:26,067 Speaker 25: pretty settled. I think we've got a few black Caps 1851 01:31:26,227 --> 01:31:28,987 Speaker 25: coming back in between there. They're busy summer, which will 1852 01:31:28,987 --> 01:31:32,107 Speaker 25: be nice little injection there. But yeah, the squad's shaping 1853 01:31:32,147 --> 01:31:33,947 Speaker 25: up nicely and it's going to be a jam pack 1854 01:31:34,027 --> 01:31:34,627 Speaker 25: January for us. 1855 01:31:34,987 --> 01:31:37,427 Speaker 2: Firebirds are always there or thereabouts in white ball cricket. 1856 01:31:37,667 --> 01:31:39,747 Speaker 2: What do you think it'll take you to really be 1857 01:31:39,907 --> 01:31:41,027 Speaker 2: there at the business end? 1858 01:31:41,547 --> 01:31:43,347 Speaker 25: Yeah, I think we just find June a few things 1859 01:31:43,387 --> 01:31:45,667 Speaker 25: that maybe went wrong last year. Obviously, like I said, 1860 01:31:45,707 --> 01:31:49,507 Speaker 25: it was a reasonably successful campaign for us. But yeah, 1861 01:31:49,547 --> 01:31:52,027 Speaker 25: I guess just looking back over last season and just 1862 01:31:52,027 --> 01:31:53,827 Speaker 25: seeing where we can improve a few areas. And then 1863 01:31:54,107 --> 01:31:56,107 Speaker 25: obviously a little bit of luck has evolved as well. 1864 01:31:56,427 --> 01:31:59,547 Speaker 2: Yeah, how much of it is not good fortune necessarily, 1865 01:31:59,627 --> 01:32:02,867 Speaker 2: but reaccepting the moments when they come along. 1866 01:32:03,307 --> 01:32:05,707 Speaker 25: Yeah, I think it's one of those formats where you 1867 01:32:05,747 --> 01:32:07,867 Speaker 25: can turn up and if one person has a day 1868 01:32:07,907 --> 01:32:09,587 Speaker 25: out that the whole game can change. Obviously, it's a 1869 01:32:09,587 --> 01:32:11,747 Speaker 25: little bit different to the four day game, where across 1870 01:32:11,787 --> 01:32:14,267 Speaker 25: the four days it's usually the best eleven players who perform, 1871 01:32:14,587 --> 01:32:16,987 Speaker 25: you know, we'll get the results. So T twenty at 1872 01:32:17,027 --> 01:32:18,987 Speaker 25: times can be very fickle, which is I guess why 1873 01:32:19,067 --> 01:32:20,467 Speaker 25: we love it so much. You can come out and 1874 01:32:20,987 --> 01:32:22,587 Speaker 25: you know, like we saw Tim Robinson do in the 1875 01:32:22,627 --> 01:32:25,187 Speaker 25: first game of the Super Smash last year, he took 1876 01:32:25,267 --> 01:32:28,027 Speaker 25: that game away and won it pretty much single handedly 1877 01:32:28,067 --> 01:32:29,787 Speaker 25: for us. So it's an exciting format and it's going 1878 01:32:29,827 --> 01:32:30,907 Speaker 25: to be a great campaign. 1879 01:32:30,947 --> 01:32:33,747 Speaker 2: Again, you're a three format batsman and you've obviously got 1880 01:32:34,267 --> 01:32:36,387 Speaker 2: a bunch of runs already in the Planket Shield, so 1881 01:32:36,427 --> 01:32:38,267 Speaker 2: I think it's obviously going well for you. How big 1882 01:32:38,307 --> 01:32:40,987 Speaker 2: an adjustment is it going from blanket shield you've played 1883 01:32:40,987 --> 01:32:42,747 Speaker 2: for trophy to the T twenty stuff. 1884 01:32:43,507 --> 01:32:43,667 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1885 01:32:43,707 --> 01:32:45,907 Speaker 25: I think as you get older, you're trying to sort 1886 01:32:45,907 --> 01:32:48,427 Speaker 25: of fine tune it a little bit into not being 1887 01:32:48,507 --> 01:32:50,187 Speaker 25: too much of a change. I think when I was younger, 1888 01:32:50,227 --> 01:32:53,667 Speaker 25: I tried to have three different types of way that 1889 01:32:53,747 --> 01:32:56,547 Speaker 25: I like to bat. But I think it and now 1890 01:32:56,587 --> 01:32:58,467 Speaker 25: at the stage of my career. It's just trying to 1891 01:32:59,547 --> 01:33:01,947 Speaker 25: keep it really simple between the three so when you 1892 01:33:02,027 --> 01:33:06,307 Speaker 25: do transition, it's not a bigger jump. Sometimes easier said 1893 01:33:06,387 --> 01:33:08,787 Speaker 25: and done, but yeah, it's always a work on and 1894 01:33:08,867 --> 01:33:11,227 Speaker 25: a great challenge. I guess going from this year, it's 1895 01:33:11,267 --> 01:33:12,907 Speaker 25: going to be going from four a credit straight into 1896 01:33:12,907 --> 01:33:14,667 Speaker 25: T twenty, which I guess is the biggest contrast. So 1897 01:33:14,707 --> 01:33:18,427 Speaker 25: it'll be interesting to see how guys, yeah adjust their. 1898 01:33:18,387 --> 01:33:20,387 Speaker 2: Games yet in the ball right they mate what's going 1899 01:33:20,467 --> 01:33:22,427 Speaker 2: so well, Well, it was a lean start. 1900 01:33:22,547 --> 01:33:22,707 Speaker 9: You know. 1901 01:33:23,627 --> 01:33:25,307 Speaker 25: I've spoken to a few of the other boys, and 1902 01:33:25,587 --> 01:33:27,867 Speaker 25: you know, I've said to them that no one notices 1903 01:33:27,867 --> 01:33:31,227 Speaker 25: your lean patches more than yourself. So you know, I 1904 01:33:31,307 --> 01:33:33,427 Speaker 25: missed out five or six times in the fort Trophy 1905 01:33:33,587 --> 01:33:35,667 Speaker 25: to start to start the year, and then missed out 1906 01:33:35,667 --> 01:33:38,187 Speaker 25: in the first play a Shield game. But it's been 1907 01:33:38,227 --> 01:33:40,307 Speaker 25: nice to come good with a couple of hundreds obviously, 1908 01:33:40,347 --> 01:33:41,947 Speaker 25: and then a few runs in the last game. So 1909 01:33:42,707 --> 01:33:44,387 Speaker 25: we're up to Eton Park in the next fixture, so 1910 01:33:44,467 --> 01:33:46,107 Speaker 25: hopefully you can continue the form. 1911 01:33:46,227 --> 01:33:48,187 Speaker 2: Talked about those black Caps coming back into the side 1912 01:33:48,227 --> 01:33:50,547 Speaker 2: and they'll integrate, I guess game by game or it 1913 01:33:50,587 --> 01:33:52,667 Speaker 2: won't be a whole block of games. So how do 1914 01:33:52,747 --> 01:33:55,307 Speaker 2: you go about managing a side of fifteen sixteen guys 1915 01:33:55,347 --> 01:33:56,907 Speaker 2: When those guys are coming back in, they're probably going 1916 01:33:56,947 --> 01:33:59,227 Speaker 2: to play. How do you manage that as a playing group. 1917 01:33:59,787 --> 01:34:01,627 Speaker 25: Yeah, it's a tough one because you know, you've got 1918 01:34:01,667 --> 01:34:04,347 Speaker 25: guys in the squad who, you know, who might be 1919 01:34:04,427 --> 01:34:07,347 Speaker 25: fringe fib that's players who just itching to get into 1920 01:34:07,387 --> 01:34:08,747 Speaker 25: the team, and when they do play, it's, you know, 1921 01:34:09,187 --> 01:34:10,947 Speaker 25: for someone that it's the biggest game of their career 1922 01:34:11,027 --> 01:34:13,547 Speaker 25: so far. And then you get guys who have you know, 1923 01:34:13,627 --> 01:34:15,307 Speaker 25: been in the black Caps environment and they come back 1924 01:34:15,387 --> 01:34:17,467 Speaker 25: down and for them it's you know, it's almost a 1925 01:34:17,507 --> 01:34:19,467 Speaker 25: little bit of ah and just relax a little bit. 1926 01:34:19,507 --> 01:34:23,507 Speaker 25: So you know, that's that's why team sports are so amazing. 1927 01:34:23,547 --> 01:34:24,987 Speaker 25: You you've got to live in different guys in the 1928 01:34:25,067 --> 01:34:27,267 Speaker 25: chaining room going through a different emotions and different. 1929 01:34:26,987 --> 01:34:27,827 Speaker 2: Stages of their career. 1930 01:34:27,947 --> 01:34:31,387 Speaker 25: So yeah, I guess, I guess as captain, it's probably 1931 01:34:31,427 --> 01:34:34,027 Speaker 25: managing the guys who are who are newer into the environment. 1932 01:34:34,067 --> 01:34:35,787 Speaker 25: You know, they're not too sure what their role is 1933 01:34:35,947 --> 01:34:37,507 Speaker 25: or you know, it might be feeling a little bit 1934 01:34:37,507 --> 01:34:38,987 Speaker 25: nervous and anxious, and I think it's just when the 1935 01:34:39,027 --> 01:34:42,387 Speaker 25: black Caps coming back, just making sure they're nice and 1936 01:34:42,427 --> 01:34:44,507 Speaker 25: clear and really enjoying their time off the part because 1937 01:34:44,507 --> 01:34:45,187 Speaker 25: we love having them. 1938 01:34:45,507 --> 01:34:47,587 Speaker 2: And the captaincy of T twenty cricket in the field 1939 01:34:47,707 --> 01:34:49,667 Speaker 2: is always fascinating me because as I said before, things 1940 01:34:49,707 --> 01:34:53,627 Speaker 2: can change pretty quickly. How sharp and flexible do you 1941 01:34:53,707 --> 01:34:56,347 Speaker 2: need to be as a fielding captain and T twenty cricket. 1942 01:34:56,907 --> 01:34:58,827 Speaker 25: Yeah, it's a It's a great format because you always 1943 01:34:58,827 --> 01:35:01,147 Speaker 25: go into it with a lot of plans and I 1944 01:35:01,147 --> 01:35:03,307 Speaker 25: think there's a great saying and boxing where everyone's got 1945 01:35:03,307 --> 01:35:04,907 Speaker 25: a game plan until they get punched in the face 1946 01:35:05,987 --> 01:35:08,427 Speaker 25: and then it all goes out the window. So yeah, 1947 01:35:08,547 --> 01:35:09,467 Speaker 25: it's an interesting one. 1948 01:35:11,587 --> 01:35:11,787 Speaker 2: Luck. 1949 01:35:12,147 --> 01:35:14,187 Speaker 25: Yeah, the difference between four day cricket you can make 1950 01:35:14,227 --> 01:35:15,947 Speaker 25: a decision as a captain and you might not see 1951 01:35:17,227 --> 01:35:19,067 Speaker 25: you know, a flow and effect for it for you know, 1952 01:35:19,147 --> 01:35:21,187 Speaker 25: it might be a day or so. But in teach 1953 01:35:21,187 --> 01:35:23,987 Speaker 25: twenty cricket, if you have the wrong field for one 1954 01:35:24,067 --> 01:35:26,787 Speaker 25: ball or you choose to bowling over at the wrong end, 1955 01:35:26,827 --> 01:35:30,627 Speaker 25: it can result in the match going either way. So 1956 01:35:31,067 --> 01:35:35,187 Speaker 25: it's a very exciting format. Can be nervier times as captain, 1957 01:35:35,227 --> 01:35:36,547 Speaker 25: but that's why I love it. 1958 01:35:37,147 --> 01:35:38,947 Speaker 6: Well the best make good to chat chess, Thanks Monny. 1959 01:35:39,027 --> 01:35:41,427 Speaker 2: That's Nick Kelly, captain of the Wellington Firebirds. So they've 1960 01:35:41,427 --> 01:35:43,387 Speaker 2: got to wait till New Year's Day before they play 1961 01:35:43,427 --> 01:35:45,147 Speaker 2: there for Super Smash game. There used to be a 1962 01:35:45,187 --> 01:35:48,307 Speaker 2: traditional Christmas Eve game at the Basin Reserve, but I 1963 01:35:48,347 --> 01:35:50,947 Speaker 2: think the fact that the Rose Bowl Series is being 1964 01:35:51,067 --> 01:35:53,867 Speaker 2: played here and Wellington has put paid to that anyway. 1965 01:35:54,067 --> 01:35:57,187 Speaker 2: Wellington will play Northern in their first match on New 1966 01:35:57,267 --> 01:36:00,227 Speaker 2: Year's Day at Seddon Park, and Hamilton looked forward to 1967 01:36:00,267 --> 01:36:03,867 Speaker 2: another exciting season of domestic T twenty cricket played over 1968 01:36:03,947 --> 01:36:07,827 Speaker 2: the back end of December through January, with the finals 1969 01:36:07,947 --> 01:36:11,387 Speaker 2: in the first weekend of February two twenty. Here at 1970 01:36:11,427 --> 01:36:13,547 Speaker 2: News TALKSB where we come back, I'm going to play 1971 01:36:13,547 --> 01:36:15,587 Speaker 2: for you one of our favorite interviews of the year 1972 01:36:15,667 --> 01:36:17,547 Speaker 2: quite recent actually only a month or so ago, and 1973 01:36:18,587 --> 01:36:21,547 Speaker 2: we found a giveaway which relates to the interview as well. 1974 01:36:21,747 --> 01:36:25,307 Speaker 2: So I know you could hardly wait to hear the details. 1975 01:36:25,867 --> 01:36:27,827 Speaker 2: I'll give them to you in about three minutes from now. 1976 01:36:28,707 --> 01:36:30,507 Speaker 2: It's more than just a game. 1977 01:36:30,867 --> 01:36:34,987 Speaker 1: Weekends for it with Jason Pine and GJ. Garnomes, New 1978 01:36:35,107 --> 01:36:37,627 Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks. 1979 01:36:37,467 --> 01:36:40,827 Speaker 2: MB two twenty three. So as we approach Christmas, we 1980 01:36:40,987 --> 01:36:43,387 Speaker 2: just wanted to play one of our favorite interviews of 1981 01:36:43,427 --> 01:36:45,387 Speaker 2: the last little while, and it's the interview we did 1982 01:36:45,427 --> 01:36:48,947 Speaker 2: with Neil Wagner, who got his book out in time 1983 01:36:49,027 --> 01:36:51,907 Speaker 2: for Christmas. It's called All Out, and we chatted to 1984 01:36:51,987 --> 01:36:54,427 Speaker 2: Neil Wagner about the book and it was I enjoyed 1985 01:36:54,427 --> 01:36:55,827 Speaker 2: the chat. Hopefully you did it too. We're going to 1986 01:36:55,867 --> 01:36:58,067 Speaker 2: play it back for you shortly. But I realized that 1987 01:36:58,307 --> 01:37:01,187 Speaker 2: in advance of the interview, they sent us a copy 1988 01:37:01,227 --> 01:37:04,147 Speaker 2: of the book, which is fairly standard practice. You read 1989 01:37:04,187 --> 01:37:06,267 Speaker 2: the book before you talk to the person about the book. 1990 01:37:06,547 --> 01:37:08,827 Speaker 2: I've read the book, so I don't really have any 1991 01:37:08,867 --> 01:37:11,187 Speaker 2: more use for the book. I've read it now, so 1992 01:37:11,387 --> 01:37:13,707 Speaker 2: I wondered whether you might like it. I can't say 1993 01:37:13,747 --> 01:37:15,907 Speaker 2: it's brand new because I've read it. I've been thumbing 1994 01:37:15,947 --> 01:37:17,867 Speaker 2: through it. I haven't made any notes in it. I 1995 01:37:17,987 --> 01:37:21,907 Speaker 2: haven't defaced it in any way. It's not signed, so 1996 01:37:22,387 --> 01:37:25,787 Speaker 2: if you would like it, just text I don't know 1997 01:37:26,067 --> 01:37:29,907 Speaker 2: wags to nine two nine two. So while this interview 1998 01:37:30,027 --> 01:37:33,947 Speaker 2: is playing, we'll we'll take texts on nine two, nine two, 1999 01:37:34,667 --> 01:37:36,187 Speaker 2: then we'll select a winner and send it out to you. 2000 01:37:36,307 --> 01:37:38,347 Speaker 2: I can almost guarantee it will not get to you 2001 01:37:38,467 --> 01:37:42,707 Speaker 2: by Christmas, knowing the way that New Zealand posts get 2002 01:37:42,867 --> 01:37:44,947 Speaker 2: very busy at this time of the year, So don't 2003 01:37:44,987 --> 01:37:47,427 Speaker 2: expect it to be there before Christmas. Don't think here's 2004 01:37:47,467 --> 01:37:50,667 Speaker 2: an opportunity to give somebody a Christmas present, because it 2005 01:37:50,787 --> 01:37:52,587 Speaker 2: probably won't be there by then, but it will be 2006 01:37:52,707 --> 01:37:55,307 Speaker 2: with you as quickly as we possibly can get it 2007 01:37:55,347 --> 01:37:57,347 Speaker 2: to you. So if you want a copy of Neil 2008 01:37:57,347 --> 01:38:02,227 Speaker 2: Wagner's book All Out Wags Wags, just text that to 2009 01:38:02,347 --> 01:38:04,667 Speaker 2: nine two niney two. So here is the interview we 2010 01:38:04,707 --> 01:38:07,427 Speaker 2: did with Neil Wagner to talk about his book All 2011 01:38:07,747 --> 01:38:12,667 Speaker 2: Out Weekend Sort. Neil Wagner had one of the great 2012 01:38:12,907 --> 01:38:14,987 Speaker 2: New Zealand Test cricket careers. 2013 01:38:16,667 --> 01:38:17,587 Speaker 1: The side. 2014 01:38:18,907 --> 01:38:19,787 Speaker 6: Test game. 2015 01:38:24,787 --> 01:38:25,787 Speaker 13: New Zealand one. 2016 01:38:28,347 --> 01:38:33,867 Speaker 2: Stelling Test Match Yeah, one of the most famous Test 2017 01:38:33,947 --> 01:38:36,987 Speaker 2: matches and Neil Wagner front and center for it. He 2018 01:38:37,067 --> 01:38:40,627 Speaker 2: played sixty four Test matches for New Zealand, took two 2019 01:38:40,787 --> 01:38:43,827 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty wickets, the fifth most by any New 2020 01:38:43,907 --> 01:38:46,667 Speaker 2: Zealand bowler at an average of twenty seven point five 2021 01:38:46,707 --> 01:38:50,267 Speaker 2: to seven and an exceptional strike rate of a wicket 2022 01:38:50,587 --> 01:38:53,947 Speaker 2: every fifty two deliveries. Of the New Zealand bowlers who 2023 01:38:53,987 --> 01:38:56,747 Speaker 2: have taken more than one hundred Test wickets, he is 2024 01:38:56,867 --> 01:39:00,267 Speaker 2: second only to Sir Richard Hadley in terms of the 2025 01:39:00,347 --> 01:39:03,707 Speaker 2: number of balls bowled per wicket taken. But it was 2026 01:39:03,867 --> 01:39:07,667 Speaker 2: his approach to the game, his life hearted attitude, has 2027 01:39:07,787 --> 01:39:11,147 Speaker 2: never say die mentality, and his willingness to run and 2028 01:39:11,267 --> 01:39:15,507 Speaker 2: ball after ball, over after over, regardless of the conditions 2029 01:39:15,827 --> 01:39:19,787 Speaker 2: or the match situation, and never give an opposition batter 2030 01:39:19,947 --> 01:39:24,227 Speaker 2: a second's rest, which endeared him to New Zealand cricket fans. 2031 01:39:24,587 --> 01:39:29,267 Speaker 2: His autobiography is out, It's all out and your wager 2032 01:39:29,627 --> 01:39:31,507 Speaker 2: is in studio. Great to see you mate. How did 2033 01:39:31,547 --> 01:39:34,747 Speaker 2: you find the process of writing the book. 2034 01:39:37,027 --> 01:39:39,587 Speaker 26: Yeah, I've got a lot of more respeaks for people 2035 01:39:39,587 --> 01:39:42,347 Speaker 26: who write a book now. Number one, Number twos sort 2036 01:39:42,347 --> 01:39:43,867 Speaker 26: of felt like counseling in a way a little bit. 2037 01:39:45,747 --> 01:39:46,347 Speaker 17: Yeah, it was. 2038 01:39:47,747 --> 01:39:50,027 Speaker 26: It wasn't easy to obviously get a lot of stuff 2039 01:39:50,067 --> 01:39:53,427 Speaker 26: out that a lot of things that my family member's 2040 01:39:53,467 --> 01:39:56,467 Speaker 26: close friends, a lot of people wouldn't have known about me. 2041 01:39:57,147 --> 01:39:58,667 Speaker 26: You sort of had to give them a heads up 2042 01:39:58,707 --> 01:40:01,427 Speaker 26: before the book. Obviously came out to say hey, so 2043 01:40:01,547 --> 01:40:03,307 Speaker 26: that they don't read it in there for the first time, 2044 01:40:03,427 --> 01:40:06,227 Speaker 26: but to open up and sort of put everything out. 2045 01:40:07,667 --> 01:40:09,947 Speaker 26: It's not easy. You know, everyone's going to know everything 2046 01:40:09,947 --> 01:40:13,387 Speaker 26: about you. But personally wanted to make an impact and 2047 01:40:14,147 --> 01:40:16,467 Speaker 26: tell a pretty cool story that you know, my career 2048 01:40:16,507 --> 01:40:19,267 Speaker 26: has sort of been through and what I've went through. 2049 01:40:19,387 --> 01:40:22,267 Speaker 26: So so yeah, hopefully can make an impact in one 2050 01:40:22,307 --> 01:40:24,227 Speaker 26: person's life, will be pretty satisfied. 2051 01:40:25,027 --> 01:40:29,027 Speaker 2: Sometimes cricket auto biographies in particular can become a bit 2052 01:40:29,067 --> 01:40:31,027 Speaker 2: of a list of games that you played and the 2053 01:40:31,147 --> 01:40:33,147 Speaker 2: runs you scored that will get you took, that sort 2054 01:40:33,147 --> 01:40:35,507 Speaker 2: of thing. But this book is so much more than that, 2055 01:40:35,707 --> 01:40:39,027 Speaker 2: as you've just alluded to there. How keen were you 2056 01:40:39,347 --> 01:40:42,107 Speaker 2: for it to be a true account of the many 2057 01:40:42,227 --> 01:40:43,427 Speaker 2: ups and downs in your life? 2058 01:40:44,467 --> 01:40:46,867 Speaker 26: Yeah, I think there was the reason why I wanted 2059 01:40:46,947 --> 01:40:49,267 Speaker 26: to write a book at first. You know, I got 2060 01:40:49,347 --> 01:40:52,467 Speaker 26: hounded by James Roader, the writer to write this book, 2061 01:40:52,507 --> 01:40:54,707 Speaker 26: and I kept saying, nah, nah, I don't want to 2062 01:40:54,747 --> 01:40:54,867 Speaker 26: do it. 2063 01:40:54,907 --> 01:40:55,507 Speaker 17: I don't want to do it. 2064 01:40:56,187 --> 01:40:56,307 Speaker 9: You know. 2065 01:40:56,387 --> 01:40:58,787 Speaker 26: I hate making anything sort of about me or something 2066 01:40:58,867 --> 01:41:00,507 Speaker 26: like that. So I was a little bit against it, 2067 01:41:00,587 --> 01:41:05,027 Speaker 26: and yeah, after you know, retirement and sitting down reflecting, 2068 01:41:05,107 --> 01:41:08,147 Speaker 26: and you know, a couple of a couple of whiskeys 2069 01:41:08,187 --> 01:41:10,947 Speaker 26: one night with my wife sitting down and I rang 2070 01:41:11,027 --> 01:41:13,107 Speaker 26: them up and said, let's write this book and put 2071 01:41:13,147 --> 01:41:16,227 Speaker 26: it on paper because I'll change my mind tomorrow. And 2072 01:41:16,307 --> 01:41:17,747 Speaker 26: then I thought, you know, I'm going to have to 2073 01:41:17,947 --> 01:41:19,427 Speaker 26: go all out yet, I'm going to have to try 2074 01:41:19,467 --> 01:41:21,787 Speaker 26: and try and explain and give a real in depth 2075 01:41:21,987 --> 01:41:27,347 Speaker 26: I guess sort of background, and I guess tell the 2076 01:41:27,387 --> 01:41:30,027 Speaker 26: whole story and people might understand a little bit more 2077 01:41:30,067 --> 01:41:32,427 Speaker 26: and see why, you know, my veins popped every time 2078 01:41:32,907 --> 01:41:37,027 Speaker 26: I guess celebrated wicket and got extremely animated. I think 2079 01:41:37,067 --> 01:41:38,547 Speaker 26: this will give a lot of people a lot of 2080 01:41:38,947 --> 01:41:42,347 Speaker 26: insight and reasons behind the scenes and will know a 2081 01:41:42,387 --> 01:41:42,787 Speaker 26: lot more. 2082 01:41:43,307 --> 01:41:43,467 Speaker 9: Well. 2083 01:41:43,507 --> 01:41:46,707 Speaker 2: It certainly did for me. It's a terrific read. Neil, 2084 01:41:46,747 --> 01:41:50,147 Speaker 2: congratulations on it. I know many people will find it 2085 01:41:50,267 --> 01:41:53,587 Speaker 2: hard to correlate the confidence with which you played your cricket. 2086 01:41:54,067 --> 01:41:56,067 Speaker 2: You know that, as you say that, how pumped up 2087 01:41:56,147 --> 01:41:59,827 Speaker 2: you were, how outwardly exuberant you always were with the 2088 01:41:59,907 --> 01:42:03,187 Speaker 2: off field challenges you talk about in the book. At 2089 01:42:03,267 --> 01:42:05,907 Speaker 2: its worst, the self doubt that you talk about in 2090 01:42:05,987 --> 01:42:08,627 Speaker 2: the book at its worst, How bad was that? 2091 01:42:09,547 --> 01:42:09,707 Speaker 9: Yeah? 2092 01:42:09,707 --> 01:42:13,987 Speaker 26: Extremely bad at times when when you're on the fringe 2093 01:42:14,027 --> 01:42:15,267 Speaker 26: and you don't know if you're going to play or not. 2094 01:42:15,947 --> 01:42:17,547 Speaker 26: You know, you find out the morning of the tease 2095 01:42:17,587 --> 01:42:19,467 Speaker 26: if you're going to be twelve and or playing the 2096 01:42:19,587 --> 01:42:23,227 Speaker 26: night before, not being able to sleep, you know, worrying 2097 01:42:23,227 --> 01:42:25,427 Speaker 26: about if you're going to play or not, the uncontrollable 2098 01:42:25,467 --> 01:42:28,187 Speaker 26: things of you. You're sort of just you know, playing 2099 01:42:28,227 --> 01:42:31,347 Speaker 26: around your head and then finding out you're not playing. 2100 01:42:31,427 --> 01:42:34,387 Speaker 26: Was disappointed. But then when you do play, you're excited. 2101 01:42:34,507 --> 01:42:36,907 Speaker 26: But then the nurse straight away kick. Then the anxiety, 2102 01:42:38,147 --> 01:42:40,147 Speaker 26: I guess, the fear of failure, those sort of things. 2103 01:42:41,067 --> 01:42:42,747 Speaker 26: You know, when you've done one in your career but 2104 01:42:42,867 --> 01:42:45,387 Speaker 26: you don't get a chance in white ball, cricket or 2105 01:42:46,547 --> 01:42:48,707 Speaker 26: and other things, you sort of doubt yourself, you know, 2106 01:42:48,867 --> 01:42:50,667 Speaker 26: like are you just you know, having a bit of 2107 01:42:50,787 --> 01:42:52,787 Speaker 26: luck or you know, are you actually good enough? Why 2108 01:42:52,867 --> 01:42:55,627 Speaker 26: you're not seen to I guess, get you know, go 2109 01:42:55,747 --> 01:42:58,427 Speaker 26: to another step further or do better or do more. 2110 01:42:59,747 --> 01:43:01,947 Speaker 26: You know, there's there's a lot of anxiety around that. 2111 01:43:02,747 --> 01:43:05,547 Speaker 26: And then when you did well and performed was to 2112 01:43:05,667 --> 01:43:08,747 Speaker 26: keep performing and keep doing well, and then we had 2113 01:43:08,787 --> 01:43:11,907 Speaker 26: extremely good crop of fast ballers around, bringing down your 2114 01:43:11,947 --> 01:43:12,507 Speaker 26: neck the whole time. 2115 01:43:12,547 --> 01:43:14,547 Speaker 17: Seeing you had to be at the top of your game. 2116 01:43:14,787 --> 01:43:16,947 Speaker 26: Any anytime you sort of slip up, someone else is 2117 01:43:17,387 --> 01:43:19,867 Speaker 26: going to take that opportunity and that could be a 2118 01:43:19,947 --> 01:43:22,867 Speaker 26: career over. So yeah, that came with a lot of 2119 01:43:22,947 --> 01:43:25,147 Speaker 26: challenges on and off the field. Came a lot of 2120 01:43:25,227 --> 01:43:27,587 Speaker 26: things that you had to try and put aside because 2121 01:43:27,667 --> 01:43:31,387 Speaker 26: I was tiring, and it was draining mentally, it was 2122 01:43:31,467 --> 01:43:36,027 Speaker 26: definitely fatiguing. So for me, it was quite nice that 2123 01:43:36,107 --> 01:43:39,987 Speaker 26: I could channel that I guess stuff and to bowling bounces. 2124 01:43:40,027 --> 01:43:40,507 Speaker 6: I guess. 2125 01:43:41,987 --> 01:43:43,747 Speaker 2: Indeed, I want to talk about some of the highs. 2126 01:43:43,787 --> 01:43:45,827 Speaker 2: But but first of all, when do you reckon you 2127 01:43:45,947 --> 01:43:49,547 Speaker 2: were bowling at your absolute best? Is there a sweet 2128 01:43:49,627 --> 01:43:51,467 Speaker 2: spot in your career? 2129 01:43:52,227 --> 01:43:57,907 Speaker 26: Yeah, I definitely fill two and sixteen, probably two, you know, 2130 01:43:58,307 --> 01:44:01,307 Speaker 26: I think a year before I retired it was probably 2131 01:44:01,627 --> 01:44:02,027 Speaker 26: the best. 2132 01:44:02,147 --> 01:44:02,467 Speaker 17: I think. 2133 01:44:03,267 --> 01:44:05,867 Speaker 26: You know, as situations sort of went on aas you 2134 01:44:05,947 --> 01:44:09,627 Speaker 26: grew and confidence as you had, I guess you could 2135 01:44:09,667 --> 01:44:12,107 Speaker 26: put away that fear and anxiety in that streets when 2136 01:44:12,107 --> 01:44:13,707 Speaker 26: your place got a little bit more cemented and you 2137 01:44:13,787 --> 01:44:15,667 Speaker 26: knew we're going to play, and you can park those 2138 01:44:15,707 --> 01:44:17,787 Speaker 26: things up and you had a good night's sleep beforehand, 2139 01:44:17,827 --> 01:44:19,347 Speaker 26: and you can just worry about the job and you 2140 01:44:19,387 --> 01:44:22,107 Speaker 26: need to do. But once you had a bit more 2141 01:44:22,187 --> 01:44:25,587 Speaker 26: experience it wasn't new and you had a couple of 2142 01:44:25,627 --> 01:44:28,707 Speaker 26: games behind your belt, it became easier. And then it 2143 01:44:28,827 --> 01:44:30,467 Speaker 26: was sort of just get stuck into your work sort 2144 01:44:30,467 --> 01:44:32,947 Speaker 26: of thing, you know, and the rhythm was sort of there, 2145 01:44:32,987 --> 01:44:35,547 Speaker 26: and things sort of felt like it was easier to 2146 01:44:35,747 --> 01:44:39,227 Speaker 26: kind of deal with the other challenges. Was tough with 2147 01:44:39,347 --> 01:44:41,987 Speaker 26: your body when you had to you know, the aches 2148 01:44:42,067 --> 01:44:45,187 Speaker 26: and pains and you know, the soreness. You had to 2149 01:44:45,307 --> 01:44:48,107 Speaker 26: try and go through that and buite through it. There 2150 01:44:48,227 --> 01:44:50,787 Speaker 26: was a challenge with it itself as well, where you know, 2151 01:44:50,867 --> 01:44:53,347 Speaker 26: there's times you felt like maybe you should sit this 2152 01:44:53,427 --> 01:44:55,987 Speaker 26: one out. But then I was just thinking deep and 2153 01:44:56,027 --> 01:44:58,187 Speaker 26: it was amazing to see what you could then do, 2154 01:44:58,347 --> 01:44:59,947 Speaker 26: what you could achieve, you know, how high you could 2155 01:44:59,947 --> 01:45:02,147 Speaker 26: actually push your body, and where I thought I couldn't 2156 01:45:02,147 --> 01:45:03,387 Speaker 26: play that tests, all of a sudden you played a 2157 01:45:03,387 --> 01:45:04,907 Speaker 26: whole series and you played three te S matches and 2158 01:45:04,987 --> 01:45:07,547 Speaker 26: got through it. It was amazing to see and that 2159 01:45:07,627 --> 01:45:09,787 Speaker 26: gave yourself again that confidence to be able to know 2160 01:45:09,867 --> 01:45:10,987 Speaker 26: how far you can push your body. 2161 01:45:11,747 --> 01:45:13,587 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about a couple of specific 2162 01:45:13,667 --> 01:45:16,267 Speaker 2: test matches which fall towards the back end of your career. 2163 01:45:16,547 --> 01:45:21,227 Speaker 2: The World Test Championship Final win over India twenty twenty one. 2164 01:45:21,747 --> 01:45:23,267 Speaker 2: I love your account of it in the book, and 2165 01:45:23,947 --> 01:45:27,467 Speaker 2: I love Trent Bolt saying, as Kan and Ross Taylor 2166 01:45:27,587 --> 01:45:29,187 Speaker 2: out there, Look, if you have to go and you 2167 01:45:29,267 --> 01:45:31,747 Speaker 2: could get ted runs, you could get ted runs. I 2168 01:45:31,827 --> 01:45:34,307 Speaker 2: could get five runs. We're going to get there. I mean, 2169 01:45:34,347 --> 01:45:36,227 Speaker 2: that's a great memory. But what are your most vivid 2170 01:45:36,307 --> 01:45:38,027 Speaker 2: memories of the World Test Championship win. 2171 01:45:38,907 --> 01:45:40,947 Speaker 26: That was probably the longest test of my whole career, 2172 01:45:42,227 --> 01:45:44,427 Speaker 26: not just because we had six days with the extra day. 2173 01:45:44,587 --> 01:45:45,947 Speaker 17: It was because we stayed at. 2174 01:45:45,867 --> 01:45:48,987 Speaker 26: The ground and your room staring looking at the ground, 2175 01:45:49,547 --> 01:45:51,427 Speaker 26: waking up six o'clock in the morning and you can 2176 01:45:51,467 --> 01:45:54,027 Speaker 26: hear the covers coming off and the lawnmow starting up 2177 01:45:54,107 --> 01:45:57,027 Speaker 26: and working and stuff like that. It was pretty surreal 2178 01:45:57,107 --> 01:45:59,507 Speaker 26: because we normally don't stay at the ground. You sort 2179 01:45:59,547 --> 01:46:00,907 Speaker 26: of drive in with a bus and you sort of 2180 01:46:00,947 --> 01:46:04,107 Speaker 26: far away, but it just felt like you were constantly 2181 01:46:04,147 --> 01:46:07,467 Speaker 26: in this game and the ground and never a way, 2182 01:46:08,187 --> 01:46:12,507 Speaker 26: so that was extremely draining afterwards. But yeah, it was 2183 01:46:12,587 --> 01:46:14,427 Speaker 26: an amazing test to be a part of, just the 2184 01:46:14,507 --> 01:46:17,387 Speaker 26: ebb and flover, you know, sitting around waiting with whether 2185 01:46:18,627 --> 01:46:20,147 Speaker 26: so many things have happened in it, but it was 2186 01:46:20,307 --> 01:46:22,507 Speaker 26: just an amazing game of cricket to be involved in 2187 01:46:22,587 --> 01:46:25,187 Speaker 26: and definitely obviously for me the pinnacle of the game. 2188 01:46:25,227 --> 01:46:28,107 Speaker 26: And to be able to beat an India team equality 2189 01:46:28,227 --> 01:46:31,467 Speaker 26: team in a final like that was was high quality 2190 01:46:31,507 --> 01:46:34,067 Speaker 26: and there we've gone the steam and back that up 2191 01:46:34,107 --> 01:46:37,547 Speaker 26: and beat them three all in India over the past 2192 01:46:37,667 --> 01:46:39,707 Speaker 26: month is an amazing achievement and there will be the 2193 01:46:39,787 --> 01:46:41,747 Speaker 26: pinnacle of I guess a lot of those guys career 2194 01:46:41,907 --> 01:46:43,867 Speaker 26: as one of the best achievements they would have ever had. 2195 01:46:45,027 --> 01:46:48,707 Speaker 2: The one run win over England at the basin after 2196 01:46:48,787 --> 01:46:52,507 Speaker 2: following on, take us inside your head as you line 2197 01:46:52,587 --> 01:46:54,867 Speaker 2: up to bowlder Jimmy Anderson, England and nine down they 2198 01:46:54,907 --> 01:46:56,347 Speaker 2: need to to win again. 2199 01:46:56,427 --> 01:46:58,587 Speaker 26: The ebbs and flows of that game where you feel 2200 01:46:58,627 --> 01:47:01,507 Speaker 26: like in control, you feel like you know we've done 2201 01:47:01,627 --> 01:47:04,987 Speaker 26: hard work. We've gone through two innings after being made 2202 01:47:05,067 --> 01:47:08,667 Speaker 26: follow on, know that the man of work those battest 2203 01:47:08,707 --> 01:47:10,267 Speaker 26: put on to get us in a good position, and 2204 01:47:10,347 --> 01:47:11,667 Speaker 26: all of a sudden a couple of wickets full. 2205 01:47:11,787 --> 01:47:13,747 Speaker 17: You feel like you're going to you know, this is it, 2206 01:47:13,827 --> 01:47:14,707 Speaker 17: We're going to win this game. 2207 01:47:14,827 --> 01:47:17,827 Speaker 26: Then a partnership between Stokes and Roots sort of brings 2208 01:47:17,907 --> 01:47:19,907 Speaker 26: that back down again and put you under pressure and 2209 01:47:20,467 --> 01:47:22,347 Speaker 26: finally get their wickets and you feel like, okay, this 2210 01:47:22,507 --> 01:47:22,627 Speaker 26: is it. 2211 01:47:22,787 --> 01:47:23,747 Speaker 17: This is the moment too. 2212 01:47:23,987 --> 01:47:26,267 Speaker 26: You know, we've got a sniff here, and then James 2213 01:47:26,307 --> 01:47:28,907 Speaker 26: Anderson pulls me through Cane's legs out of nowhere for 2214 01:47:29,027 --> 01:47:30,547 Speaker 26: four and I thought, Jesus is it. 2215 01:47:30,707 --> 01:47:31,627 Speaker 17: You know, it's not meant to be. 2216 01:47:32,667 --> 01:47:33,827 Speaker 26: You've got to get back to your top of your 2217 01:47:33,867 --> 01:47:36,187 Speaker 26: mark and you know, put that behind you and find 2218 01:47:36,227 --> 01:47:39,427 Speaker 26: a way of doing something believing that we can win 2219 01:47:39,507 --> 01:47:42,507 Speaker 26: this and thank goodness, will a little tickle down legs side, 2220 01:47:42,547 --> 01:47:45,387 Speaker 26: But yeah, it was. It was definitely, you know, the 2221 01:47:45,467 --> 01:47:47,827 Speaker 26: highlight of a career, something that you know you look 2222 01:47:47,867 --> 01:47:51,307 Speaker 26: back on fondly and always remember. And the moments afterwards 2223 01:47:51,347 --> 01:47:53,107 Speaker 26: in the change room of your your mates, you know, 2224 01:47:53,707 --> 01:47:56,787 Speaker 26: drinking a couple of nice cold beers, those are the 2225 01:47:56,867 --> 01:47:59,347 Speaker 26: moments you can remember, the smile on everyone's faces, and 2226 01:47:59,467 --> 01:48:00,507 Speaker 26: that's the thing you miss the most. 2227 01:48:01,507 --> 01:48:04,267 Speaker 2: The next teast after that trianchor in christ at the 2228 01:48:04,347 --> 01:48:07,627 Speaker 2: end of that summer, you've got torn hamstring and a 2229 01:48:07,747 --> 01:48:10,667 Speaker 2: bulging disk in your back, chasing two eighty five to win. 2230 01:48:11,227 --> 01:48:13,107 Speaker 2: Matt Henry gets out five to win. You go out 2231 01:48:13,147 --> 01:48:15,987 Speaker 2: there to join Kine with one run to win. You 2232 01:48:16,107 --> 01:48:19,547 Speaker 2: sprint twenty meters dive fall length with a torn hamstring 2233 01:48:19,587 --> 01:48:21,907 Speaker 2: and a bulging disk in your back to run the 2234 01:48:22,027 --> 01:48:25,067 Speaker 2: buy that wins the game on your thirty seventh birthday. 2235 01:48:25,067 --> 01:48:28,867 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, that's up there. 2236 01:48:28,947 --> 01:48:31,307 Speaker 17: Yeah, I had to do something. 2237 01:48:31,467 --> 01:48:34,187 Speaker 26: I was bloody frustrated that I got injured and you know, 2238 01:48:34,707 --> 01:48:36,947 Speaker 26: not playing a part of the game and sitting there watching, 2239 01:48:36,987 --> 01:48:37,947 Speaker 26: you know, you feel helpless. 2240 01:48:37,987 --> 01:48:38,187 Speaker 6: It was. 2241 01:48:38,667 --> 01:48:40,387 Speaker 26: It's one of the worst things as sports when you're 2242 01:48:40,387 --> 01:48:42,427 Speaker 26: they're injured in the side and you watch your mates, 2243 01:48:42,467 --> 01:48:44,627 Speaker 26: you know, grinding away, and I just felt like I 2244 01:48:44,707 --> 01:48:46,667 Speaker 26: want to do something. I wanted to contribute somewhere, you know, 2245 01:48:46,787 --> 01:48:49,867 Speaker 26: you want to get amongst it. And it's an amazing 2246 01:48:49,947 --> 01:48:51,747 Speaker 26: thing and drilling and a couple of painkillers what it 2247 01:48:51,787 --> 01:48:55,187 Speaker 26: can do. Jogged out there and sort of tested the 2248 01:48:55,187 --> 01:48:57,107 Speaker 26: hamstring out and thought, yeah, I can do this. Until 2249 01:48:57,107 --> 01:49:00,387 Speaker 26: I started running their run, I felt like I was 2250 01:49:00,427 --> 01:49:03,707 Speaker 26: pulling an eighteen year old truck, but eventually got there. 2251 01:49:03,787 --> 01:49:05,787 Speaker 26: But yeah, it was It was just nice to be 2252 01:49:05,867 --> 01:49:08,147 Speaker 26: out there in a moment where Caine played such an 2253 01:49:08,707 --> 01:49:11,627 Speaker 26: amazing innings instead of us home. You know, he's done 2254 01:49:11,667 --> 01:49:13,787 Speaker 26: it so many times, but to be there, I guess 2255 01:49:13,827 --> 01:49:15,187 Speaker 26: again in the midst of it and. 2256 01:49:17,107 --> 01:49:18,307 Speaker 17: A part of it, it was a. 2257 01:49:18,387 --> 01:49:21,147 Speaker 26: Huge, a huge privilege and a huge honor, you know, 2258 01:49:21,267 --> 01:49:23,507 Speaker 26: to to represent his zeland, but to be there in 2259 01:49:23,827 --> 01:49:25,027 Speaker 26: a winning a moment like that. 2260 01:49:25,147 --> 01:49:26,947 Speaker 17: As yeah, as pretty special. 2261 01:49:27,907 --> 01:49:29,987 Speaker 2: Now, can you talk us through the conversations that led 2262 01:49:30,027 --> 01:49:31,427 Speaker 2: to your international retirement. 2263 01:49:32,587 --> 01:49:33,307 Speaker 17: Yeah, it was tough. 2264 01:49:34,547 --> 01:49:35,987 Speaker 26: There was one of the hardest things I think I've 2265 01:49:36,027 --> 01:49:40,867 Speaker 26: ever had to go through as a sportsman, as a player. 2266 01:49:40,947 --> 01:49:42,747 Speaker 26: You know, when you feel like you still have something 2267 01:49:42,787 --> 01:49:45,147 Speaker 26: to offer and you're there, you know, Yeah, age is 2268 01:49:45,187 --> 01:49:47,827 Speaker 26: for me personally, just a number. I'm still playing cricket 2269 01:49:47,907 --> 01:49:50,227 Speaker 26: the moment domestically and still feel like, you know, you 2270 01:49:50,307 --> 01:49:53,227 Speaker 26: can get a job done. But you know, I kind 2271 01:49:53,267 --> 01:49:55,987 Speaker 26: of feel like, yeah, when when you're not doing as 2272 01:49:56,027 --> 01:49:57,467 Speaker 26: well or you know you're going through a bit of 2273 01:49:57,707 --> 01:49:58,347 Speaker 26: a tough patch. 2274 01:49:58,467 --> 01:50:00,667 Speaker 17: Sometimes it's part a parcel of this. 2275 01:50:00,747 --> 01:50:02,827 Speaker 26: Sport and the nature of it, and you know you 2276 01:50:02,947 --> 01:50:05,307 Speaker 26: only want get him away from from that swinging round 2277 01:50:05,427 --> 01:50:07,347 Speaker 26: and you know what you can and do with the 2278 01:50:07,427 --> 01:50:10,507 Speaker 26: experience you've you've gone through throughout the years and and 2279 01:50:10,627 --> 01:50:12,187 Speaker 26: sort of felt like, you know, I still had a 2280 01:50:12,267 --> 01:50:15,947 Speaker 26: bit to offer to to get pulled up aside. And 2281 01:50:16,947 --> 01:50:19,027 Speaker 26: you know, I guess the oh the words where you know, 2282 01:50:19,147 --> 01:50:21,467 Speaker 26: gets told you your your career is over and we 2283 01:50:21,547 --> 01:50:22,507 Speaker 26: think you should retires. 2284 01:50:23,587 --> 01:50:26,707 Speaker 17: It's tough, you know, you know, it took a while 2285 01:50:26,867 --> 01:50:27,667 Speaker 17: to to sink in. 2286 01:50:28,267 --> 01:50:31,227 Speaker 26: It took a while to to realize that, you know, 2287 01:50:31,987 --> 01:50:33,747 Speaker 26: for the team and for the best thing forward, that 2288 01:50:33,907 --> 01:50:35,587 Speaker 26: it might be the right decision and it's something that 2289 01:50:35,667 --> 01:50:39,467 Speaker 26: I'm going to have to do, and you know, you 2290 01:50:39,587 --> 01:50:41,467 Speaker 26: think about the team first, I guess in that moment. 2291 01:50:41,547 --> 01:50:44,507 Speaker 17: But yeah, it wasn't easy. It's it's a tough thing. 2292 01:50:44,547 --> 01:50:46,587 Speaker 26: And like I said, when you when you treasure something 2293 01:50:46,667 --> 01:50:48,267 Speaker 26: so much and it's been such a big part of 2294 01:50:48,347 --> 01:50:50,747 Speaker 26: you for so long and you want to be out 2295 01:50:50,787 --> 01:50:53,507 Speaker 26: there to to create more memories, to know that it 2296 01:50:53,707 --> 01:50:58,387 Speaker 26: just stops an instant like that. Yeah, it wasn't easy, 2297 01:50:58,467 --> 01:51:00,587 Speaker 26: but Hey, it's part of life and part of a 2298 01:51:00,707 --> 01:51:04,547 Speaker 26: sportsman's journey, I guess in a way. And again that's 2299 01:51:04,627 --> 01:51:06,027 Speaker 26: what I wanted to try and get across in this 2300 01:51:06,067 --> 01:51:09,347 Speaker 26: book because the learnings of that is that I'm probably 2301 01:51:09,427 --> 01:51:11,667 Speaker 26: not the only guy to go through this. I probably 2302 01:51:11,667 --> 01:51:13,667 Speaker 26: won't be the only guy to go through this, and 2303 01:51:14,987 --> 01:51:16,907 Speaker 26: other people will go through it as well. The mental 2304 01:51:16,947 --> 01:51:20,227 Speaker 26: stuff with that afterwards again was brutal, you know, the 2305 01:51:20,907 --> 01:51:22,827 Speaker 26: lows you feel with that and having to pick yourself 2306 01:51:22,907 --> 01:51:26,427 Speaker 26: up again and go again, it's pretty tough. And that's 2307 01:51:26,467 --> 01:51:28,227 Speaker 26: what I wanted to try and achieve out of this book, 2308 01:51:28,387 --> 01:51:31,307 Speaker 26: is to hopefully have an impact in someone's life, because 2309 01:51:31,347 --> 01:51:33,027 Speaker 26: I know about a couple of people doing it pretty 2310 01:51:33,027 --> 01:51:33,947 Speaker 26: tough out there at the moment. 2311 01:51:34,707 --> 01:51:36,267 Speaker 17: They're not alone. There's a lot of people go through 2312 01:51:36,307 --> 01:51:36,867 Speaker 17: these sort of things. 2313 01:51:37,907 --> 01:51:40,027 Speaker 2: Of course, the two guys who you had the conversation with, 2314 01:51:40,227 --> 01:51:42,107 Speaker 2: or two of them were Gary Stead and Tim Soudy, 2315 01:51:42,267 --> 01:51:45,347 Speaker 2: coach and captain at the time. How's your relationship with 2316 01:51:45,387 --> 01:51:45,947 Speaker 2: those two guys? 2317 01:51:46,027 --> 01:51:49,587 Speaker 26: Now, I've got a very good relationship with Tim, you know, 2318 01:51:49,707 --> 01:51:52,107 Speaker 26: I've you know, sent him a text last night again 2319 01:51:52,187 --> 01:51:55,547 Speaker 26: congratulating him with this, you know, he is a good mate. 2320 01:51:55,627 --> 01:51:57,787 Speaker 26: We've we've shared the change him, you know, and some 2321 01:51:57,987 --> 01:52:02,107 Speaker 26: real highs and lows together and a and a huge 2322 01:52:02,147 --> 01:52:04,587 Speaker 26: friendship and we'll be friends of life, you know. It's 2323 01:52:04,707 --> 01:52:06,507 Speaker 26: one thing of this whole black cap set up. It's 2324 01:52:06,547 --> 01:52:10,387 Speaker 26: been pretty amazing in that sense. And with Gary, you know, 2325 01:52:11,387 --> 01:52:12,907 Speaker 26: I don't think it could have been easy for him. 2326 01:52:14,427 --> 01:52:17,027 Speaker 26: I haven't really spoken to him after that, but I know, 2327 01:52:17,347 --> 01:52:20,307 Speaker 26: you know, as a coach, it can't be it can't 2328 01:52:20,307 --> 01:52:22,827 Speaker 26: be easy thing to do, and it's part of your job, 2329 01:52:22,867 --> 01:52:26,867 Speaker 26: I guess in nature. But yeah, haven't really really spoken 2330 01:52:26,907 --> 01:52:29,227 Speaker 26: to him afterwards. But yeah, somewhere somewhere down the line, 2331 01:52:29,267 --> 01:52:31,507 Speaker 26: will probably sit down every on somewhere. 2332 01:52:32,587 --> 01:52:37,387 Speaker 2: What drove you to give absolutely everything you did when 2333 01:52:37,427 --> 01:52:39,427 Speaker 2: you had not just the silver fern on your chest 2334 01:52:39,467 --> 01:52:43,507 Speaker 2: but any cricket shirt on. What where did that drive 2335 01:52:44,387 --> 01:52:44,827 Speaker 2: come from? 2336 01:52:46,547 --> 01:52:46,747 Speaker 9: Yeah? 2337 01:52:47,307 --> 01:52:50,547 Speaker 26: The once in will to you know, I guess, achieve 2338 01:52:50,627 --> 01:52:52,387 Speaker 26: your dream and your goal that you wanted to do 2339 01:52:52,587 --> 01:52:55,187 Speaker 26: number one, but number two, having felt throughout your whole 2340 01:52:55,227 --> 01:52:57,707 Speaker 26: life that you're not really getting back to or people 2341 01:52:57,787 --> 01:52:58,427 Speaker 26: don't really. 2342 01:52:58,947 --> 01:53:01,627 Speaker 17: See what you feel or believe that you can do. 2343 01:53:03,107 --> 01:53:05,387 Speaker 26: You know, you don't really get the backing or you 2344 01:53:05,467 --> 01:53:08,027 Speaker 26: don't really feel like people believe that you can do 2345 01:53:08,307 --> 01:53:10,467 Speaker 26: I guess the job as good as other people can. 2346 01:53:10,627 --> 01:53:13,827 Speaker 26: And so for me, it was ultimately, you know, you 2347 01:53:13,867 --> 01:53:15,507 Speaker 26: sort of always felt like you beck a little bit 2348 01:53:15,547 --> 01:53:17,067 Speaker 26: against the wall and you've got to go out and 2349 01:53:17,147 --> 01:53:20,707 Speaker 26: prove yourself over and over again. And I just had 2350 01:53:20,947 --> 01:53:23,747 Speaker 26: to find this way of trying to prove people wrong 2351 01:53:23,827 --> 01:53:26,107 Speaker 26: and show them and say, hey, I can do this job, 2352 01:53:26,147 --> 01:53:28,827 Speaker 26: and I'll do it all day long. And that drove 2353 01:53:28,907 --> 01:53:31,507 Speaker 26: me to, you know, stand up the whole time. The 2354 01:53:31,507 --> 01:53:33,987 Speaker 26: amount of times they had to fall down and get 2355 01:53:34,067 --> 01:53:36,107 Speaker 26: back up again was sort of something that. 2356 01:53:36,947 --> 01:53:37,547 Speaker 17: Told you a lot. 2357 01:53:37,707 --> 01:53:40,507 Speaker 26: And I guess my wife was a huge driver beyond 2358 01:53:40,507 --> 01:53:43,187 Speaker 26: the scenes with a lot of things, the stuff she 2359 01:53:43,267 --> 01:53:45,747 Speaker 26: had to go through as well, and the support she 2360 01:53:45,787 --> 01:53:48,147 Speaker 26: had to give me for my family and stuff like that. 2361 01:53:48,267 --> 01:53:50,707 Speaker 26: You know, I knew it's a little bit more than 2362 01:53:50,787 --> 01:53:51,627 Speaker 26: just playing for myself. 2363 01:53:52,067 --> 01:53:53,027 Speaker 17: You're representing them. 2364 01:53:53,467 --> 01:53:56,227 Speaker 26: You're playing for them as well, and to give them 2365 01:53:56,227 --> 01:53:57,787 Speaker 26: a better life and put a roof over your head. 2366 01:53:58,347 --> 01:53:59,747 Speaker 26: You know, there's a lot of stuff writing on this, 2367 01:53:59,947 --> 01:54:01,987 Speaker 26: so you had to try and find a way. And 2368 01:54:02,987 --> 01:54:05,707 Speaker 26: there's all their passions sort of came in and try 2369 01:54:05,747 --> 01:54:08,547 Speaker 26: to deliver, you know, had they fund on my chest. 2370 01:54:09,187 --> 01:54:10,707 Speaker 2: Do you ever wonder what would have happened if you 2371 01:54:10,787 --> 01:54:12,627 Speaker 2: hadn't accepted the offer to come to Otaga. 2372 01:54:13,427 --> 01:54:19,667 Speaker 17: Gosh, I'll probably still live my parents. I don't know. Gosh, 2373 01:54:19,667 --> 01:54:22,467 Speaker 17: I've been trying to find some sort of job somewhere. Yeah, 2374 01:54:23,547 --> 01:54:23,987 Speaker 17: I don't know. 2375 01:54:24,027 --> 01:54:26,667 Speaker 26: It would have been a tough one. There's so many 2376 01:54:26,867 --> 01:54:29,147 Speaker 26: ways we could look at it. I don't know what happened. 2377 01:54:29,147 --> 01:54:32,387 Speaker 26: If I sign a county contract, you know for two years, 2378 01:54:32,467 --> 01:54:35,067 Speaker 26: it would have been a considerate more amount of money. 2379 01:54:35,587 --> 01:54:36,947 Speaker 26: You know, if I would have just finished as a 2380 01:54:36,987 --> 01:54:39,827 Speaker 26: county cricket player or just you know, it might have 2381 01:54:39,987 --> 01:54:42,267 Speaker 26: gone a different route and not play cricket as long 2382 01:54:42,307 --> 01:54:45,867 Speaker 26: as I have or achieve what I have. But yeah, 2383 01:54:46,947 --> 01:54:50,827 Speaker 26: no way, do I ever had any thoughts of looking back, 2384 01:54:50,907 --> 01:54:52,027 Speaker 26: going what for what? 2385 01:54:52,227 --> 01:54:52,387 Speaker 9: How? 2386 01:54:52,547 --> 01:54:55,027 Speaker 26: It's just jumped at the opportunity, jumped on that plane, 2387 01:54:55,067 --> 01:54:57,347 Speaker 26: and I sort of never looked back ever since. 2388 01:54:58,627 --> 01:55:00,787 Speaker 2: We recently did a poll on the air. We put 2389 01:55:00,827 --> 01:55:03,227 Speaker 2: together a list of New Zealand sports people who should 2390 01:55:03,267 --> 01:55:07,107 Speaker 2: never ever have to buy a beer again. You got votes, man, 2391 01:55:07,947 --> 01:55:09,547 Speaker 2: Do people buy you beers. They surely do. 2392 01:55:10,027 --> 01:55:12,147 Speaker 26: Maybe there's been a couple and I really appreciate it. 2393 01:55:12,307 --> 01:55:15,707 Speaker 26: It's been pretty kind and pretty generous. There's been a 2394 01:55:15,747 --> 01:55:17,587 Speaker 26: couple of times where people have rocked up of a 2395 01:55:17,627 --> 01:55:19,827 Speaker 26: beer and it's been you know, you sort of feel 2396 01:55:19,827 --> 01:55:23,867 Speaker 26: a little bit embarrassed, but it has been very awesome 2397 01:55:23,947 --> 01:55:26,147 Speaker 26: to see how people have got around it and done 2398 01:55:26,187 --> 01:55:28,867 Speaker 26: that by no means expected at all. I'd love to 2399 01:55:28,907 --> 01:55:30,947 Speaker 26: actually just buy them a beer back, to be honest, 2400 01:55:31,027 --> 01:55:34,267 Speaker 26: but yeah, it just shows you the nature and the 2401 01:55:34,347 --> 01:55:37,427 Speaker 26: generosity and the kindness of Kiwis and how they get 2402 01:55:37,427 --> 01:55:39,667 Speaker 26: amongst things and support sport and people. 2403 01:55:39,707 --> 01:55:41,867 Speaker 17: And it's body awesome to see. 2404 01:55:42,507 --> 01:55:44,187 Speaker 2: You gave a lot of people a lot of pleasure 2405 01:55:44,307 --> 01:55:47,507 Speaker 2: kneel across your career where delighted you accepted the offer 2406 01:55:47,587 --> 01:55:49,987 Speaker 2: to come to Otago then obviously qualified to play for 2407 01:55:50,067 --> 01:55:52,587 Speaker 2: New Zealand and did it for so long with such 2408 01:55:52,987 --> 01:55:56,107 Speaker 2: humility but such exuberance, such success and a part of 2409 01:55:56,387 --> 01:55:59,747 Speaker 2: a huge, hugely successful era in New Zealand cricket. The 2410 01:55:59,787 --> 01:56:02,067 Speaker 2: book is cracking, mate, It's a really good read. I'd 2411 01:56:02,387 --> 01:56:05,427 Speaker 2: recommend it to anybody. Congratulations on this and on your 2412 01:56:05,467 --> 01:56:07,307 Speaker 2: career for taking the time for a chat. 2413 01:56:07,427 --> 01:56:08,587 Speaker 17: Thank you so much, appreciate this. 2414 01:56:08,907 --> 01:56:11,387 Speaker 2: Thanks Matte, thank you Neil, thanks for stopping in. Mate, 2415 01:56:11,387 --> 01:56:11,867 Speaker 2: Neil Wagner. 2416 01:56:13,827 --> 01:56:14,227 Speaker 7: All Out. 2417 01:56:14,467 --> 01:56:17,027 Speaker 2: The name of the book it is. It's a beauty. 2418 01:56:18,147 --> 01:56:21,427 Speaker 2: I read a lot of sporting autobiographies and as I 2419 01:56:21,467 --> 01:56:23,267 Speaker 2: said to Wags at the start of that chat, you know, 2420 01:56:23,387 --> 01:56:24,867 Speaker 2: often they can just be, oh, we played this team 2421 01:56:24,907 --> 01:56:26,947 Speaker 2: and here's what happened. But there's a lot more to 2422 01:56:27,027 --> 01:56:30,107 Speaker 2: this one, a lot more to it. I would recommend 2423 01:56:30,107 --> 01:56:33,867 Speaker 2: it all Out. It's called weekends for there you go. 2424 01:56:33,947 --> 01:56:36,947 Speaker 2: That was me chaut into Neil Wagner beginning of November. 2425 01:56:37,067 --> 01:56:39,787 Speaker 2: So yeah, as I say, I've got the book, I've 2426 01:56:39,827 --> 01:56:44,307 Speaker 2: read it, and we've been taking texts to win this copy, 2427 01:56:45,467 --> 01:56:49,187 Speaker 2: the once for read copy of All Out. Andy will 2428 01:56:49,227 --> 01:56:52,067 Speaker 2: pick a win up and get back to you to 2429 01:56:52,867 --> 01:56:54,107 Speaker 2: let you know that you've won it and get your 2430 01:56:54,147 --> 01:56:56,587 Speaker 2: details and we'll get it sent out to you. Sixteen 2431 01:56:56,627 --> 01:56:59,827 Speaker 2: and a half away from three. Reminder that next Sunday 2432 01:57:00,027 --> 01:57:02,067 Speaker 2: is our year in review, show a lot of our 2433 01:57:02,107 --> 01:57:04,587 Speaker 2: best bits from twenty twenty four. When we come back though, 2434 01:57:04,947 --> 01:57:08,147 Speaker 2: a look at the World Championships. Where are we and 2435 01:57:08,747 --> 01:57:11,067 Speaker 2: are one of the Luks going to win this or 2436 01:57:11,227 --> 01:57:14,107 Speaker 2: is there a dark horse in our midst darts? After this? 2437 01:57:15,067 --> 01:57:18,787 Speaker 1: The tough questions off the turf Weekend Sport with Jason 2438 01:57:18,867 --> 01:57:22,747 Speaker 1: Hine and GJ. Gardnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder, 2439 01:57:22,867 --> 01:57:23,667 Speaker 1: News Talks. 2440 01:57:23,587 --> 01:57:26,187 Speaker 2: B thirteen to three. I just got a text from 2441 01:57:26,267 --> 01:57:28,467 Speaker 2: Craig Cumming, who was instrumental in getting Neil Wagner to 2442 01:57:28,507 --> 01:57:30,547 Speaker 2: New Zealand and captained him for a long time. As 2443 01:57:30,587 --> 01:57:32,827 Speaker 2: Otago Skipper said that he didn't ask Neil about the 2444 01:57:32,827 --> 01:57:36,067 Speaker 2: time I sent him off the field against Northern Distrunks. 2445 01:57:36,187 --> 01:57:38,627 Speaker 2: I took the ball off him mid over and gave 2446 01:57:38,707 --> 01:57:41,787 Speaker 2: him the red card. G you're a braver man than me, Craig, 2447 01:57:42,347 --> 01:57:44,707 Speaker 2: a braver man than me taking the red ball off 2448 01:57:44,787 --> 01:57:47,707 Speaker 2: Neil Wagner mad over. The World Darts Champs have been 2449 01:57:47,747 --> 01:57:49,787 Speaker 2: going for a week. All the first round matches complete, 2450 01:57:49,827 --> 01:57:51,467 Speaker 2: as well as the number of the second round matches. 2451 01:57:51,507 --> 01:57:53,587 Speaker 2: One more day of pre Christmas action then back on 2452 01:57:53,787 --> 01:57:56,227 Speaker 2: the twenty seventh of December. The final is set down 2453 01:57:56,507 --> 01:58:00,187 Speaker 2: for January third. Let's bring in Ben Francis, multimedia journalist 2454 01:58:00,427 --> 01:58:02,467 Speaker 2: when News Talks, he'db and the New Zealand Herald host 2455 01:58:02,867 --> 01:58:06,307 Speaker 2: of the KIW Darts podcast, Ben, thanks for popping in. Look, 2456 01:58:07,227 --> 01:58:09,747 Speaker 2: the biggest name in darts? Is he the favorite? 2457 01:58:10,467 --> 01:58:13,347 Speaker 23: Honestly pioneer, I'm actually not. I actually think it's going 2458 01:58:13,387 --> 01:58:14,907 Speaker 23: to be Luke Humphrey's is probably going to be the 2459 01:58:14,987 --> 01:58:17,427 Speaker 23: favorite to take it all out defender's title. But those 2460 01:58:17,507 --> 01:58:19,947 Speaker 23: two are definitely on a collision course to meet in 2461 01:58:20,067 --> 01:58:22,307 Speaker 23: the semi finals, which is going to be disappointing not 2462 01:58:22,387 --> 01:58:25,507 Speaker 23: getting the same final we had last year. But those 2463 01:58:25,547 --> 01:58:27,667 Speaker 23: two are definitely going to be neck and neck in 2464 01:58:27,707 --> 01:58:30,187 Speaker 23: the side of the drawers. But at the way things 2465 01:58:30,227 --> 01:58:32,427 Speaker 23: have gone so far, I would probably say Luke Humphreys. 2466 01:58:32,467 --> 01:58:34,707 Speaker 23: And part of that is just because I felt even 2467 01:58:34,707 --> 01:58:38,907 Speaker 23: though Luke Letler played sensationally averaged one hundred and forty, 2468 01:58:38,987 --> 01:58:41,867 Speaker 23: which is just ridiculous in the final set. In his 2469 01:58:41,947 --> 01:58:44,267 Speaker 23: match today, it was the first time I could say 2470 01:58:44,307 --> 01:58:46,587 Speaker 23: I probably saw a bit of nerves from him up. 2471 01:58:46,547 --> 01:58:49,467 Speaker 2: On the stage, which is very rare for him. 2472 01:58:49,707 --> 01:58:51,667 Speaker 23: You know, he's only seventeen years old, but he's got 2473 01:58:51,707 --> 01:58:53,987 Speaker 23: the composure of someone who's been doing it for a 2474 01:58:54,227 --> 01:58:55,987 Speaker 23: very long time. But there were a little bit of 2475 01:58:56,067 --> 01:58:58,627 Speaker 23: nerves up there. And it was almost lesslight that finally 2476 01:58:58,707 --> 01:59:01,147 Speaker 23: all that pressure, all that everything that's happened to him 2477 01:59:01,147 --> 01:59:02,987 Speaker 23: the last year finally just kind of hit him a 2478 01:59:03,027 --> 01:59:05,267 Speaker 23: little bit. But that's I still think he's going to 2479 01:59:05,307 --> 01:59:07,707 Speaker 23: go reach the semi final, but I do predict Luke 2480 01:59:07,787 --> 01:59:09,787 Speaker 23: Humfries will probably get the better of him. But there's 2481 01:59:09,787 --> 01:59:11,067 Speaker 23: still so much more darts to play. 2482 01:59:11,347 --> 01:59:15,187 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so interesting about Luke Littler though, because you're right, 2483 01:59:15,227 --> 01:59:17,947 Speaker 2: I mean, he he has just monstered the sport in 2484 01:59:18,027 --> 01:59:20,107 Speaker 2: a way that you know, very few others before him have. 2485 01:59:20,467 --> 01:59:20,627 Speaker 9: Look. 2486 01:59:20,667 --> 01:59:22,827 Speaker 2: I was looking at the even you look at the 2487 01:59:24,027 --> 01:59:26,067 Speaker 2: a couple of the websites which showed the schedule, and 2488 01:59:26,187 --> 01:59:28,947 Speaker 2: Luke Littler's name is there in bold, It's in red. 2489 01:59:29,027 --> 01:59:31,427 Speaker 2: It's like you must be looking for when Luke Littler's playing. 2490 01:59:31,627 --> 01:59:33,707 Speaker 2: It's like he's bigger than the sport in some ways. 2491 01:59:34,027 --> 01:59:36,507 Speaker 23: Yeah, so of course you'll remember it's been about five 2492 01:59:36,587 --> 01:59:39,267 Speaker 23: years ago when Fallon Sherrick became the first woman to 2493 01:59:39,307 --> 01:59:41,147 Speaker 23: win at the World Champs. And you know even that 2494 01:59:41,307 --> 01:59:43,947 Speaker 23: for the sport then was you know, that was amazing, 2495 01:59:44,107 --> 01:59:46,907 Speaker 23: that did so much coverage and the whole Luke Letler 2496 01:59:46,947 --> 01:59:50,667 Speaker 23: effect that's just been next level. Mayby fallon COVID kind 2497 01:59:50,707 --> 01:59:52,867 Speaker 23: of halted at some of that progress. But the kind 2498 01:59:52,907 --> 01:59:55,627 Speaker 23: of coverage of the sports got even from you know, 2499 01:59:55,707 --> 01:59:58,747 Speaker 23: people around the world talking about darts that would never 2500 01:59:58,827 --> 02:00:01,307 Speaker 23: talk about darts. It's just been insane. And you even 2501 02:00:01,347 --> 02:00:03,787 Speaker 23: see some of the celebrities there in the stands. You know, 2502 02:00:03,907 --> 02:00:06,307 Speaker 23: there was a great photo of Ed Sharing chugging down 2503 02:00:06,427 --> 02:00:08,547 Speaker 23: beer there yesterday, which was quite quite cool to see. 2504 02:00:09,147 --> 02:00:11,667 Speaker 2: Indeed, Yeah, they all love the darts, all right, So 2505 02:00:11,867 --> 02:00:14,947 Speaker 2: Luke Littler, Luke Humphreys, if it's not going to be 2506 02:00:15,027 --> 02:00:16,307 Speaker 2: one of the Lukes, then who. 2507 02:00:16,827 --> 02:00:18,947 Speaker 23: Well, if I'm to pick a winner right now, I 2508 02:00:19,027 --> 02:00:21,947 Speaker 23: would be picking Luke Humphreyes to take it out. I 2509 02:00:22,027 --> 02:00:23,707 Speaker 23: would say, you're probably going to be looking at a 2510 02:00:23,787 --> 02:00:26,267 Speaker 23: Michael van guh when really coming out from the other 2511 02:00:26,347 --> 02:00:27,947 Speaker 23: side of the draw, it's been quite a few years 2512 02:00:27,987 --> 02:00:30,347 Speaker 23: since he did win the title. He looks hungry, he 2513 02:00:30,427 --> 02:00:33,107 Speaker 23: looks motivated. But as I say, there's still so many 2514 02:00:33,187 --> 02:00:35,987 Speaker 23: more darts to play, and there's always going to be upsets, 2515 02:00:36,067 --> 02:00:38,067 Speaker 23: especially when we get down to the nitty gritty. We've 2516 02:00:38,067 --> 02:00:40,547 Speaker 23: seen lots of the some of the names the big names. 2517 02:00:41,067 --> 02:00:44,387 Speaker 23: Michael Smith been the big one, losing in his first 2518 02:00:44,467 --> 02:00:46,547 Speaker 23: matchal tournament, which was in the second round, just how 2519 02:00:46,587 --> 02:00:48,587 Speaker 23: the format's done. And you know that was a big upset, 2520 02:00:48,827 --> 02:00:50,627 Speaker 23: but the guy who beat him was that kind of 2521 02:00:50,747 --> 02:00:53,987 Speaker 23: his final, winning a match like that. So but if 2522 02:00:53,987 --> 02:00:56,147 Speaker 23: I'm to pick a final right here, right now today, 2523 02:00:56,427 --> 02:00:58,147 Speaker 23: even though some of the guys I have still not 2524 02:00:58,347 --> 02:01:00,787 Speaker 23: seen play yet, I would be picking Michael van Gullin 2525 02:01:00,827 --> 02:01:01,947 Speaker 23: against Luke Humphries. 2526 02:01:02,187 --> 02:01:04,427 Speaker 2: What about Gary Anderson? Is he still in this conversation? 2527 02:01:04,707 --> 02:01:06,907 Speaker 23: Yeah, well Gary Anderson hasn't played yet. I think he's 2528 02:01:06,947 --> 02:01:11,147 Speaker 23: playing tomorrow from memory. And look, he's definitely got the 2529 02:01:11,267 --> 02:01:14,387 Speaker 23: form to do it. He's definitely he's been playing great. 2530 02:01:14,747 --> 02:01:16,867 Speaker 23: He of course, being a two time world champion, he's 2531 02:01:16,867 --> 02:01:18,907 Speaker 23: got plenty to offer and he will definitely have something 2532 02:01:18,987 --> 02:01:21,827 Speaker 23: to say. But it's going to be one of those 2533 02:01:21,867 --> 02:01:23,867 Speaker 23: things where look, when it comes down to the netty 2534 02:01:23,947 --> 02:01:26,347 Speaker 23: gritty of the back end of the tournament, how he 2535 02:01:26,467 --> 02:01:29,347 Speaker 23: hasn't played in too many finals of late, how's he 2536 02:01:29,427 --> 02:01:32,827 Speaker 23: gonnawithstand playing for that for that long amount of time? 2537 02:01:32,867 --> 02:01:34,667 Speaker 23: And it also depends on who he plays as well, 2538 02:01:34,747 --> 02:01:37,387 Speaker 23: because lots of the controversy in the darts at the 2539 02:01:37,427 --> 02:01:39,027 Speaker 23: moment has been a bit around the crowd. If he's 2540 02:01:39,027 --> 02:01:40,947 Speaker 23: playing an Englishman, for example, the crowd are going to 2541 02:01:40,987 --> 02:01:42,667 Speaker 23: get on his back. But if he is playing a 2542 02:01:42,707 --> 02:01:45,027 Speaker 23: Michael van Gelin, for example, then may be that the 2543 02:01:45,067 --> 02:01:46,187 Speaker 23: crowd will be for him. 2544 02:01:46,707 --> 02:01:48,907 Speaker 2: All right, great analysis. Hey, thanks Ben. We'll probably get 2545 02:01:48,907 --> 02:01:50,387 Speaker 2: you on again over the next couple of weeks to 2546 02:01:50,627 --> 02:01:53,827 Speaker 2: give us some further analysis. But appreciate you taking the 2547 02:01:53,907 --> 02:01:56,907 Speaker 2: time to wrap some wrap some inside around it for us. 2548 02:01:56,947 --> 02:01:59,667 Speaker 2: I appreciate you popping into the studio. Cheers, planning good man. 2549 02:01:59,707 --> 02:02:01,787 Speaker 2: Ben Francis their host of the Kiwi Darts podcast and 2550 02:02:01,827 --> 02:02:03,747 Speaker 2: the Colleague of Ours here in news Talks, He'd be 2551 02:02:03,867 --> 02:02:06,187 Speaker 2: and the New Zealand Herald eight and a half away. 2552 02:02:05,987 --> 02:02:09,907 Speaker 1: From three analyzing every view from every angle in the 2553 02:02:10,027 --> 02:02:14,307 Speaker 1: Sporting World. Weekend Sport with Jason Vine Call eight hundred 2554 02:02:14,307 --> 02:02:17,507 Speaker 1: and eighty eighty News Talk ZENB five to three. 2555 02:02:17,627 --> 02:02:20,307 Speaker 2: Well, Weekend Sport has come to a close for today 2556 02:02:20,467 --> 02:02:23,747 Speaker 2: and for the pre Christmas time. I feel like I 2557 02:02:23,787 --> 02:02:26,907 Speaker 2: don't really need to say farewell because we're back next Saturday. 2558 02:02:26,947 --> 02:02:28,307 Speaker 2: Well I am anyway, I don't know what Andy's doing. 2559 02:02:28,347 --> 02:02:30,267 Speaker 2: I think he's going away for a bit, but yeah, 2560 02:02:30,347 --> 02:02:34,827 Speaker 2: weekend sport will continue through the Christmas New Year period 2561 02:02:35,067 --> 02:02:37,787 Speaker 2: next weekend, as mentioned next Sunday will be our year 2562 02:02:37,867 --> 02:02:40,067 Speaker 2: in review, but we'll continue to cover off all the 2563 02:02:40,107 --> 02:02:43,787 Speaker 2: sport that is happening across this Christmas New Year period. However, 2564 02:02:44,147 --> 02:02:47,027 Speaker 2: as this is our last show before Christmas and Andy's 2565 02:02:47,107 --> 02:02:48,707 Speaker 2: last show, it would be remiss of me not to 2566 02:02:48,747 --> 02:02:50,827 Speaker 2: wish you Andy, are very merry Christmas. Thank you for 2567 02:02:50,867 --> 02:02:53,667 Speaker 2: your incredible heavy lifting during the year making the show 2568 02:02:53,747 --> 02:02:55,667 Speaker 2: come together. I hope you have a great break made 2569 02:02:55,747 --> 02:02:59,107 Speaker 2: and come back refreshed in twenty twenty five. I know 2570 02:02:59,227 --> 02:03:02,187 Speaker 2: that you will thank you for listening in as well 2571 02:03:02,267 --> 02:03:05,067 Speaker 2: across the across the year. As I say, we're back 2572 02:03:05,107 --> 02:03:08,147 Speaker 2: next weekend anyway with with another show. But we do 2573 02:03:08,507 --> 02:03:10,987 Speaker 2: appreciate at this very busy time of the year you 2574 02:03:11,107 --> 02:03:13,947 Speaker 2: spending any of your time with us, and it just 2575 02:03:14,067 --> 02:03:16,347 Speaker 2: remains for us to come up with an exit song 2576 02:03:16,547 --> 02:03:20,707 Speaker 2: and well, in keeping with the Christmas theme, yesterday, Andy 2577 02:03:21,107 --> 02:03:24,667 Speaker 2: came up with an alimentop Christmas song. I've done no 2578 02:03:24,787 --> 02:03:26,867 Speaker 2: such thing. I've gone with something a lot more traditional. 2579 02:03:27,627 --> 02:03:29,467 Speaker 2: It's always been one of my favorite Christmas songs, and 2580 02:03:29,507 --> 02:03:32,187 Speaker 2: I can't really put my finger on why. It's Bob 2581 02:03:32,307 --> 02:03:37,027 Speaker 2: Seeker and his version of the Little drummer Boy that's 2582 02:03:37,067 --> 02:03:40,227 Speaker 2: taking us out today. Have a safe and enjoyable Christmas 2583 02:03:40,307 --> 02:03:42,427 Speaker 2: with those who mean the most of you. We will 2584 02:03:42,467 --> 02:03:44,907 Speaker 2: see you next weekend on Weekend Sport Life. 2585 02:03:44,987 --> 02:03:50,187 Speaker 9: Now, he's smile and all the. 2586 02:03:54,467 --> 02:04:00,787 Speaker 15: Mean in my room, in my drum. 2587 02:04:08,387 --> 02:04:08,587 Speaker 11: Man. 2588 02:04:16,347 --> 02:04:19,507 Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 2589 02:04:19,627 --> 02:04:22,907 Speaker 1: to news Talks at B weekends from midday, or follow 2590 02:04:22,947 --> 02:04:24,547 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio