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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: One of the surprises from the budget is the move

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Speaker 2: to kick kids off the doll Eighteen and nineteen year

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Speaker 2: olds will not be eligible for the Job Seeker or

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Speaker 2: for the Emergency Benefit if their parents are able to help.

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Speaker 2: Former WINS boss Christine Rankin is all over this. Hello Christine,

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Speaker 2: Hello Heather. Do you like this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I love it? I absolutely love it. You know,

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Speaker 1: no eighteen or nineteen year old should be getting a

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Speaker 1: message that if they don't really make much effort, don't worry,

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Speaker 1: the government will fix it for them. And the benefits

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Speaker 1: the road to poverty. It's a terrible, terrible situation to

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Speaker 1: allow them to be in when they should be starting

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Speaker 1: their working life or or studying.

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Speaker 2: How many kids, though, do you think, are at eighteen

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Speaker 2: or nineteen sitting around on the doll while actually living

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Speaker 2: with their parents, And how many of them will actually

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Speaker 2: be living independently in a flats just going away and

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Speaker 2: doing this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And look, they might be. But if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: here is the incentive. Just like the other incentives that

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Speaker 1: have been given since the government came to par It's

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Speaker 1: been very serious about welfare and I think very responsible.

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Speaker 1: So if you're not living with your mum and dad.

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Speaker 1: If you're living in a flat, you're going to have

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Speaker 1: to get a job if you want to maintain that lifestyle,

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Speaker 1: or you're going to have to go home. And that

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Speaker 1: is fair and reasonable and responsible and giving exactly the

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Speaker 1: message they need, you know, Labour said to them, come in,

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Speaker 1: all of you, come in, will give you absolutely everything

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Speaker 1: and you can have it for as long as you like,

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Speaker 1: and you don't have to do a thing. How disgraceful

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Speaker 1: is that to anyone, let alone young people. Now?

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Speaker 2: The only trouble that I can see with this is

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Speaker 2: that it seems reasonably easy to get around the rules.

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Speaker 2: You're just move in with your girlfriend or your boyfriend,

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Speaker 2: don't you.

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Speaker 1: Well, you've got to be married, don't you?

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Speaker 2: Ire in a union or de facto, And de facto

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Speaker 2: is basically like you and I can be in a

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Speaker 2: de facto if we want to tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Of course we can. And so if they do have

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Speaker 1: had and I didn't realize that, well, look, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take much for you to organize that, whether it was

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Speaker 1: real or not, would it. So I think that that

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Speaker 1: was probably a silly thing to do. As part of it,

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Speaker 1: I like the general thrust I love the message. I

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Speaker 1: think it's really important to the young people in New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: But that is an out that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: I would suspect would take advantage of.

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Speaker 2: Christine has always good to talk to you. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. That's Christine Rankin, former WINS boss.

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