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Speaker 1: This took about rural things. We've got Jamie McCain from

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Speaker 1: the Country on the line, how Jamie Gooday Andrew Now

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Speaker 1: in south people are up in arms. Are farms being converted.

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Speaker 2: Well, not just our farm set. Lots of farms down

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Speaker 2: here and certainly lots of farms on the east coast

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Speaker 2: of the North Island as well, have been converted from

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Speaker 2: effectively good pastoral farms to forestry and or carbon farming.

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Speaker 2: This particular one I know very well on the Southland

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Speaker 2: are born and bred. It's on the northern slopes of

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Speaker 2: the Hokanui Hills. If you were driving, for instance, from

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Speaker 2: Gore to Queenstown, it's a lovely drive too, you would

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Speaker 2: pass it. This is a farm that shouldn't be going

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Speaker 2: to trees. Of course, the government has stepped and changed

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Speaker 2: the rules, or they announced a change in the rules

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Speaker 2: in December of last year. They'll come into force probably

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Speaker 2: about October this year. But they can't stop stop stuff

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Speaker 2: that's underway already. But this is a beautiful farm. The

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Speaker 2: entire operation is apparently seven three hundred hectares. It's not

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Speaker 2: only sheep and cattle breeding, but it's also a finishing

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Speaker 2: farm where you fatt and stock. It's got cropping arable,

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Speaker 2: you know, good enough to grow crops and also dairy farming.

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Speaker 2: The whole lot is apparently being holess. Bowlus are planted

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Speaker 2: into pine trees. It's wrong. It's not being planted for

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Speaker 2: production forestry. It's being planted for the carbon credits. You'll

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Speaker 2: get two clicks on it. But a lot of the

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Speaker 2: local farmers are quite rightly saying this is not right.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be an eyesore, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a blight on the environment. And I think quite a

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Speaker 2: bit of government money was spent on this particular farm,

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Speaker 2: which is a lovely farm of tailed sheep there and

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Speaker 2: mustard as a young guy, was spent on this farm

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Speaker 2: in the seventies to develop it. And the likes of

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Speaker 2: Groundswell co founder Lorri Patterson, who also owns a big

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Speaker 2: sheep and beef station down there, says he's none too

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Speaker 2: toughed with it, and I think that's the general consensus

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Speaker 2: of people down there.

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Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. You know, these forests they're just

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Speaker 1: a mirage affecting or improving the environment in any way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form. The fact, they're making it worse. As

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Speaker 1: you quite rightly said Hey, Jamie mackay, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for your time today. Have yourself a great night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he andrew National Lamb Day on Saturday. Hopefully the

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Speaker 2: supermarkets will come to the party. I haven't seen any

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Speaker 2: evidence of it yet, but go and taste some lamb.

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Speaker 1: Oh, no problem, Jamie. I will thank you for more

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Speaker 1: from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive.

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