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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate differently. Since

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, news togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're welcome. Turn off now if you don't like

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Speaker 2: good news, because it's coming. New deal for our wool

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Speaker 2: carpet industry, new records for food and fiber exports, new

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Speaker 2: records for people moving south. I'm looking at you, christ

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Speaker 2: to it. Jimmy Carr is in for a word and

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Speaker 2: possibly a laugh after right. Joe McKenna is in Italy,

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Speaker 2: and Rod Liddle has the best of British pullers pasking

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Speaker 2: timer past six. Welcome to the day. Hardly a surprise, really,

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Speaker 2: was it. Adrian looks at what Nichol is offering to

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Speaker 2: run the place packs of sad, and he's off. It's

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Speaker 2: a pathetic end to a tumultuous period in which we,

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Speaker 2: the people who paid them, deserve an awful lot better.

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Speaker 2: The fact this information on the all resignation had to

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Speaker 2: Official Information Act, the rules which were ignored as the

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Speaker 2: bank failed to meet deadlines, shows you just what sort

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Speaker 2: of place we're dealing with. How do you conduct yourself?

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Speaker 2: And how you conduct yourself is of course critical. It's

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Speaker 2: critical for all of us, even more critical the further

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Speaker 2: up the totem pole. You are nothing wrong with a

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Speaker 2: quitting if he genuinely believed the money being offered to

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Speaker 2: run the bank wasn't enough. But you do it with

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Speaker 2: some dignity. You quit, you serve out your period, you

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Speaker 2: offer reasons for you quitting, and you move on with life.

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Speaker 2: And doing it that way you give us all an

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Speaker 2: insight into what sort of human being you are, And

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Speaker 2: in this case you might well have been able to

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Speaker 2: give us an insight into how your organization runs. What

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Speaker 2: it's thinking is, what is the gap between the bank

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Speaker 2: and the government, What you well, why you might be right,

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Speaker 2: why they might be wrong. Doesn't have to turn into

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Speaker 2: a scrap or fall out, just a series of ad

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Speaker 2: old ideas as to why people might see things at

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Speaker 2: odds with each other. If COVID taught us nothing else,

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Speaker 2: it taught us the critical role of a central bank

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Speaker 2: and what sort of people run it the way Adrian

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Speaker 2: ran It is well documented, of course, in the general

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Speaker 2: view held by many as widely traversed. But the sudden

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Speaker 2: departure was another insight and why Adrian did things the

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Speaker 2: way he did. He's petulant. You don't leave out of

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Speaker 2: the blue like that, and in silence. You don't bail

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Speaker 2: on hosting an international finance conference having said you were

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Speaker 2: looking forward to it. It's toys and sand pits, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: With Adrian? And then offruscation from the Bank when a

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Speaker 2: few simple questions were asked. If you can't conduct yourself

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Speaker 2: and the Bank can't conduct itself with any great level

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Speaker 2: of clarity, transparency, transparency and professionalism, is it any wonder

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Speaker 2: the economy got run over the way it did. He

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Speaker 2: won't be missed, old Adrian, but you would have hoped

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Speaker 2: for something a bit more sophisticated. On the way out.

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Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Ignite for the British government, the Chancellor outlined this spending

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Speaker 2: priority small sneppho as they well, they've got no money.

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Speaker 2: Not the bat was holding her back.

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Speaker 1: We are renewing Britain.

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Speaker 3: I know that too many people in too many parts

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Speaker 3: of our country are yet to felip and the purpose

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Speaker 3: of this spending review is to change that.

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Speaker 2: Tories not in priv This is.

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Speaker 4: The spend now, tax later review because the right honorable

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Speaker 4: lady knows she will need to come back here in

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Speaker 4: the autumn with yet more taxes, yes, and a cruel

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Speaker 5: It would have been nice to hear the chance to

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Speaker 5: link all of that spending into something that means something

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Speaker 5: for the businesses of the country, and we didn't really

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Speaker 2: Now we did not, so you can imagine what the

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Speaker 2: Greens thought.

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Speaker 3: From twenty twenty six. We're going to be looking at

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Speaker 3: further real terms cuts to public services at a time

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Speaker 3: when they're crying out for more investments so that we

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Speaker 2: They also announced, by the way, an oddish sort of

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Speaker 2: deal with Gibraltar that I'll work you through very shortly.

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Speaker 2: Other matters across the wayn Island, there's still got people

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Speaker 6: Stop and think, ask yourselves, is the hatred something you

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Speaker 6: want to be associated with? Is this worth being prosecuted for?

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Speaker 6: Is it worth your future being put under threat?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of HAVOC, how about LA and its curfew ain't

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Speaker 2: no shortage of back and forward either between the governor

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Speaker 7: Of Democracy is under assault before our eyes. This moment

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Speaker 7: we have feared has arrived. He's taking a wrecking ball,

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Speaker 7: a wrecking ball to our founding father's historic project.

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Speaker 2: Finally some John Lennon TATPO Christie's is selling a love

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Speaker 2: letter that he sent to Cynthia Powell. Cynthia became Missus Lennon,

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Speaker 2: of course, and they had Julian together. It's all class

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Speaker 2: this letter. It includes the line I wish I was

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Speaker 2: on the way to your flat with the Sunday papers

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Speaker 2: and choices, choices and chocolates. I wish I was on

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Speaker 2: the way for the Sunday paper and choices and a throbber.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, they reckon about ninety k. You can pop

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Speaker 2: that one in a frame in the poll room. That's

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Speaker 2: news of the world and local correspondents in ninety Brian Wilson,

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Speaker 2: if you've just missed the news in the last half hour.

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Speaker 2: He's passed away at the age of eighty two. Co

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Speaker 2: founder of course at the Beach Boys. Struggles of course,

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Speaker 2: with substance abuse and mental illness throughout the years. Abused

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Speaker 2: as I was telling Ryan a moment ago by his father.

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Speaker 2: Probably he said why he wrote the Happy Songs. Oldest

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Speaker 2: of three brothers. Born June twenty, nineteen forty two in Inglewood, California,

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Speaker 2: twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show PODC It's on a

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Speaker 2: Seems the deal's done. They got together the US and

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Speaker 2: been sort of fifteen per sex. Now from Devon Fund's management, Gregsmith,

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Speaker 2: A very good morning to you, more to two. These

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the party's well and truly over. So annual net

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Speaker 8: you can say a little wonder the government's try and

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Speaker 8: fifteen percent. A little bit of good news, Mike, if

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Speaker 8: we can grab that. The brain drain of Kiwis appears

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Speaker 8: that's sort of petering out. Good news on the tourism front,

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Speaker 8: they might overseas visitor arrivals three point three six million

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Speaker 8: lots of coming from Ozzi Day drove the bulg of

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Speaker 8: At least tourism is moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Now where are we at with fledgers We're

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So the've announced BACE that they've had inbound inquiries

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Speaker 8: for sale sign well and truly up. Quite possibly, But yeah,

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Speaker 8: could be quite a simple sort of story. So interesting timing,

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Speaker 8: but investors responded positively. Nonetheless, stock up ten percent. Company,

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Speaker 2: So watch this space. I'm assuming these numbers on inflation

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Speaker 8: You'll actually be mixed in terms they were initially. But

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Speaker 8: But if we look at May, the consume price index

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Speaker 8: time the Fed to cut rates, otherwise it was monetary malpractice.

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Speaker 8: Actually he's actually I supposed the newsier as well that

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Speaker 8: Of course he's involved in those trade talks, so you

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Speaker 11: An extreme threat requires extreme measures.

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Speaker 2: A b at Bailey's Real Estate being proudly one hundred

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Speaker 2: about that. So I think your point is valid. Mike

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Speaker 2: Ow's moving to his resort in the cock Islands, built

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Speaker 2: on Ancestral Land, entering Corkland's politics. I'll be interested to

436
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Speaker 2: see if that's true, Mike. The green shoots in our

437
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Speaker 2: economy were hidden for a couple of months. We found

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Speaker 2: them again. I reckon they're growing by spring, they may

439
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Speaker 2: even be flowering. I get that scence. I mean some

440
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Speaker 2: of the numbers we're dealing with today and the food

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Speaker 2: and fiber, and we'll talk to the Trade Minister Tod

442
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Speaker 2: McLay about that later on. I mean, there's certainly a

443
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Speaker 2: lot to be positive about it at the moment, Mike.

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Speaker 2: This alternative biography of all Dun's Dune's going to be interesting.

445
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Speaker 2: Hopefully it'll balance the Ledger with a bit of truth.

446
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Speaker 2: We'll see they say it's out by the end of

447
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Speaker 2: the year. Sixteen to two.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of mind

449
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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Literally we go Joever, good morning, good morning Mane. Now

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Speaker 2: the business of these referenda. I was talking to my

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Speaker 2: sister about that. She didn't vote them. As far as

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Speaker 2: I can work out, most people didn't vote because they

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Speaker 2: didn't vote. The whole thing was null and void. Is

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Speaker 2: that how this works.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, pretty much.

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Speaker 13: They needed a fifty percent threshold to make it legitimate.

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Speaker 13: Only around thirty percent of the voters took part in

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Speaker 13: this referendum. We had five different issues on the bellers.

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Speaker 13: I think we might have talked about that last week.

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Speaker 13: The main one was to have the length of time

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Speaker 13: required to live in Italy before applying for citizenship, reducing

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Speaker 13: that number from ten to five years. And not enough

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Speaker 13: people showed up, so everything was tossed out.

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Speaker 2: Is this scene as a waste of time? Because we

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Speaker 2: have the same thing here. It's called citizens initiated referendus.

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Speaker 2: So you go around the malls and you get a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of people to sign up. If you get enough,

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Speaker 2: they verify the numbers and then you have a vote.

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Speaker 2: But the vote's non binding, and if no one turns

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Speaker 2: up and no one can be bothered, well what's the point?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 13: I think it's a major setback though for the center

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Speaker 13: left Democratic Party and the leader Ali Schlein, particularly because

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Speaker 13: the Prime Minister Georgia Maloney was against the referendum. She

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Speaker 13: discouraged people from voting. She went to the ballot box

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Speaker 13: but didn't actually cast a ballot and what we're seeing

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Speaker 13: in the figures. Interestingly, her popularity has risen slightly in

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Speaker 13: the last few days. It's around around still around thirty

480
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Speaker 13: percent of the electorates support. But interesting too, we're seeing

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Speaker 13: some slight increase in the center left at around twenty

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Speaker 13: three and a half percent, So that's that's quite an

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Speaker 13: interesting trend.

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Speaker 2: Well, so she's into text cuts. When we say textcuts

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Speaker 2: for the middle class, who are the middle class? And

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Speaker 2: what you to what sort of money we're talking about?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well what is the middle class?

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Speaker 13: But I mean the average person in Italy is still

489
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Speaker 13: taking home fifteen hundred to two thousand euros a month,

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Speaker 13: which is not very much money. And she has reduced

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Speaker 13: the tax rate from around twenty six percent to twenty

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Speaker 13: four percent. She wants to do more for those people

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Speaker 13: in the middle I think they're going to need a

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Speaker 13: lot more to really get them going because a lot

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Speaker 13: of people, I think are still struggling economically.

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Speaker 2: What's your top rate? Off the top of your head,

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Speaker 2: do you know, I mean, you know, if you're in

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Speaker 2: a lot, I mean, do you have a lot of Texas?

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Speaker 2: Do you have like we've got far too many We've

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Speaker 2: got like you know, fourteen, seventeen, nineteen, thirty three, thirty nine.

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Speaker 2: It just goes up and up.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's pretty hard to keep track here. I wouldn't

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Speaker 13: want to name the top rate. But what is incredibly

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Speaker 13: difficult for business is if they if you want to

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Speaker 13: hire someone and put them on staff full time with

506
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Speaker 13: an indeterminate contract for a lengthy period of time, you

507
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Speaker 13: have to pay an enormous amount of tax to the

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Speaker 13: government to hire that employee. And I think that's what

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Speaker 13: really deters a lot of business growth in this country.

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Speaker 2: I've just been taught by my research department that your

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Speaker 2: top text rate is forty three euros over seventy five thousand.

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Speaker 2: Seventy five thousand in New Zealand terms, is not a

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Speaker 2: big salary. It's in fact, it's less than the average salary,

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Speaker 2: and you're paying forty three cents. You're very heavily.

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Speaker 11: Taxed, very heavily taxed.

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Speaker 13: I mean, we still see a socialist center left economy

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Speaker 13: in this country. Public healthcare one hundred percent, public healthcare,

518
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Speaker 13: schools are free, you know, so there are a lot

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Speaker 13: of benefits for people in this country still that are

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Speaker 13: left over from the past.

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Speaker 2: It's a fascinating thing. Isn't it, because you know my

522
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Speaker 2: passion for Berlusconi. How's it berl of Sconey got to

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Speaker 2: be so popular and yet you're a hoonomy is so

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Speaker 2: sent to lift.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you would have thought that he'd done more to

526
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Speaker 13: try and remove some of those old fashioned ideas, But

527
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Speaker 13: that certainly hasn't happened because I think that's embedded. But

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Speaker 13: we might see some more changes under the Minori government.

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Speaker 2: So are you School holidays started yet?

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Speaker 11: School? How days have started?

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Speaker 13: And there's some interesting stories coming out that a growing

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Speaker 13: number of Italian parents are turning to psychologists to help

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Speaker 13: them try and get through the summer holidays because.

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Speaker 11: They go forever. In this country.

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Speaker 13: They go for about thirteen weeks, which is longer than

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Speaker 13: most other countries in Europe, and among working mothers, sixty

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Speaker 13: three percent say they feel exhausted during the summer holidays.

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Speaker 11: I don't think. I don't give that there are Robinson Cruso.

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Speaker 2: There thirteen weeks now once again I'm probing into Italian society.

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Speaker 2: But that's the same thing when your kids off for

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Speaker 2: thirteen weeks and you don't get thirteen weeks leave as

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Speaker 2: a parent, which you won't.

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Speaker 11: What do you do well, it's incredibly difficult.

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Speaker 13: People who have a bit extra money send the kids

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Speaker 13: off to some sort of camp in the middle of it,

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Speaker 13: some school camp. But most of them are really juggling.

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Speaker 13: And in the old days they would have had a

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Speaker 13: lot more support from the grandparents. That sort of tradition

549
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Speaker 13: doesn't exist anymore, so the mothers and fathers are really

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Speaker 13: juggling their jobs while trying to keep the kids busy.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone ask the question see thirteen weeks for a

552
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Speaker 2: kids seems to me to be too long, right, So

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Speaker 2: the kids boored witless after about five or sex and

554
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Speaker 2: they're going, I've done all I want to do, And

555
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Speaker 2: does anyone go, why don't we spread them out, change

556
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Speaker 2: them about a bit or not?

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Speaker 13: Really, I haven't seen much of a demand about that,

558
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Speaker 13: but maybe we should put that on the.

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Speaker 2: Agenda exactly tell them about Peter Done. Nice to see you,

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Speaker 2: Jojoe mckinner out of itately. But remember Peter Dunn used

561
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Speaker 2: to come up with that idea at the end of

562
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Speaker 2: every summer here in New Zealand we need to shuffle

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Speaker 2: around the holidays. Because I think he was on to something.

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Speaker 2: By the way, just quickly I referenced Gibraltar. I'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Rod if I get time about it later. So

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Speaker 2: this is starma. I can't work out what Star is

567
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Speaker 2: trying to do. It's an anti Brixit type thing. So

568
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Speaker 2: he did that deal with the Europeans the other day.

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Speaker 2: He's done a deal with Gibraltar overnight and what they

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Speaker 2: call a fluid border. Now Gibraltar is of course British

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Speaker 2: until it isn't, which it doesn't appear to be anymore

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Speaker 2: because Gibraltar, as a result of this steal, is now

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Speaker 2: part of the Shingen border. And so if you're a

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Speaker 2: brit and you arrive in Gibraltar at the airport, you're

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Speaker 2: going to be handing over your passport no longer to

576
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Speaker 2: the British people, but to the Spanish and the EU

577
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Speaker 2: border guards. So he seemingly handed over the place to

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Speaker 2: the Spanish and the EU, given it was his yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what's going on there, But more

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Speaker 2: later with Rod.

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Speaker 1: Nine to seven the my casking breakfast with al Vida

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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities News Togstead be very.

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Speaker 2: Good point, Myke. Tourism is not just the government sticking

584
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Speaker 2: in the money. Coffer and hope the ideas work. It's

585
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Speaker 2: a complete national import of positiveness, with the media being

586
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Speaker 2: included in this right down to the enthusiasm of the

587
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Speaker 2: entire workforce, from airline, airport workers to Uber taxi drivers

588
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Speaker 2: to restaurant staff and the list goes on. The government

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Speaker 2: will only help, it won't solve very good point, Mike.

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Speaker 14: Re difference between positiveness and positivity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably. I just got back from the UK for work.

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Speaker 2: Two things that stood out. We lack confidence. We have

593
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Speaker 2: become too passive, waiting for things to happen instead of

594
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Speaker 2: making them happen. Not to mention that maybe just maybe

595
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Speaker 2: we're too casual. What was an endearing quality could quite

596
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Speaker 2: possibly be holding us back. Alex Wold on you. But

597
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Speaker 2: having said that, look, I'm not defending New Zealand. I've

598
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Speaker 2: got moments down on this country as anybody at the moment.

599
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Speaker 2: There are some shoots and there are some good stuff,

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Speaker 2: and we're all over that, and we'll talk about that

601
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Speaker 2: after seven and seven thirty this morning. But the attitude

602
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Speaker 2: at the moment sucks and we need to do something

603
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Speaker 2: about it. But having read as much as I do

604
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Speaker 2: about what's happening internationally, you've just come back from Britain.

605
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Speaker 2: Britain is not really a show piece of positivity and brilliant.

606
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Speaker 2: I can tell you that for nothing. Five to seven

607
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Speaker 2: the in and the ouse, it's the fizz with business

608
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Speaker 2: fiber take your business productivity to the next level. Eight

609
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Speaker 2: tradition of ubers lost and found. And when I say that,

610
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Speaker 2: that's not all the Uber drivers who canceled on you

611
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Speaker 2: because they couldn't be bothered. Most common items left behind

612
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Speaker 2: When did it happen? Will it happened at midnight when

613
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Speaker 2: you're pessed, of course, And if it wasn't midnight, it

614
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Speaker 2: was five am, when you're really pissed, that's well it happened.

615
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Speaker 2: Let's be frank. That's what boils down to, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Auckland most forgetful, followed by Wellington, christ jeur To Hamilton

617
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Speaker 2: and Queenstown. Worst day, which is weird June fifteen, probably

618
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Speaker 2: the middle of winter. The only event I could find

619
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Speaker 2: was that was when the warriors lost to the storm

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Speaker 2: at going Media, so that might have had something to

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Speaker 2: do with it. Most commonly forgotten items laptops, keys, vape, headphones, umbrella, wallets,

622
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Speaker 2: purser's jewelry, watch, phone bags, backpacks, clothing hardly surprising. I

623
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Speaker 2: mean there's no elephants in there, no live animals. Do

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Speaker 2: you say girlfriend?

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Speaker 10: Girl?

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Speaker 2: Friend? And I don't know.

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Speaker 14: It might be in the next section of the most unusual.

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Speaker 2: Aa oh, quirky girlfriend. I'm looking for girlfriend and the

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Speaker 2: quirkiest things you No, sorry, stuff in the boot makes sense?

630
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Speaker 2: I guess do you want to go ten through one?

631
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Speaker 2: How do we do one? Ten through one? Who ranked

632
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Speaker 2: this quirky? We can do one through ten? Single denture?

633
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Speaker 2: Can you get a single ditch?

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Speaker 9: Once?

635
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: A single diinch? Is that a tooth row? Like the

636
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Speaker 2: top fit anyway? Single diinch of golf clubs? That's hardly surprising.

637
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Speaker 2: You're a bit piste when you put the golf clubs

638
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Speaker 2: in the boot and you forget about it at five

639
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Speaker 2: a m. In the morning. It's hardly surprising.

640
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Speaker 10: Is it?

641
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Speaker 2: Fishing rod? How'd you get the fishing rod into a press?

642
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: There's your first question. How did the fishing rod fit

643
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Speaker 2: in the press unless you had a roof rack, a

644
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Speaker 2: silver walkman, I mean having a walkman, Louis Vaton sunglasses,

645
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: a hip race. That's embarrassing. An entire cooked Christmas ham

646
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Speaker 2: in the boot? Well, once again, you're pested, aren't you.

647
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Speaker 2: You're off Nana's for lunch and you put the ham

648
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Speaker 2: in the bit. Oh as a ham on the boot?

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Speaker 14: Was there a meat raffle at the golf club there

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Speaker 14: with your clubs?

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Speaker 2: Could have been a Captain America Lego set. See that's

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Speaker 2: Jason our boss, isn't he know? In collecte Lego like Jakesbay.

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Speaker 2: Most of these things could have been Jason easily Champagne.

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Speaker 2: So you can see where there's a fall chili bit

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Speaker 2: which was full of the booze that made your pest.

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Speaker 2: See it's just drunk people in an uber. It's all.

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Speaker 2: We've discovered news for you in a couple of moments.

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Speaker 1: News, opinion, everything in between, the mic hosting break, best

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Speaker 1: with the Defender actor the most powerful defender ever made

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Speaker 1: and news togstead be.

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Speaker 2: Seven pas seven. So for a person who loves will

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Speaker 2: like me, we've got the very best of news this morning.

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Speaker 2: The government has a new supply agreement for woolen carpet

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Speaker 2: in state housing. Now this is good because Bremworth recently,

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Speaker 2: if you followed this, backtracked on their wool awnly policy,

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Speaker 2: which I was sad about. Anyway, the Ministry of Economic

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Speaker 2: Growth and Financial Nicola Willis's with us. Very good morning

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 10: Good morning. It's a good news Thursday, isn't it, manch.

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Speaker 2: It's a very good news Thursday. Is Brimworth specifically involved

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Speaker 2: in this or is this just anyone who makes wool carpet.

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Speaker 5: Is in Well, there were a number of people who

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Speaker 5: tended for this contract. Apparently they all showed up very well.

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Speaker 5: Kyeing Aura, who are operationally in charge of this, have

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Speaker 5: told me that I'm not to talk about which supplier

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Speaker 5: has won the tender at the stage, but will look

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Speaker 5: forward to and telling you that at another date.

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Speaker 2: Okay, numbers wise though it stacks up clearly, it really does.

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Speaker 5: So what happened here was that kayeing Aura, like I

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Speaker 5: think lots of organizations said well, let's tender for some carpet.

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Speaker 5: We'll make it nylon only tender, and of course that

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Speaker 5: excluded Will from the table. They then restarted the tender

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Speaker 5: after they got a backlash to that, as they rightly

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Speaker 5: should have, and when Will was given the chance to

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Speaker 5: show up, it showed up really well. And I'm advised

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Speaker 5: that actually it's cost neutral, so there's no extra cost.

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Speaker 5: And of course it performs so well across a number

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Speaker 5: of other dimensions. So when they had given a chance

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Speaker 5: to play at the table, they won.

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Speaker 2: See, I don't know. I don't want to point fingers here.

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Speaker 2: Was it the wool industry's fault that they didn't sell

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Speaker 2: themselves better? Was it a previous government's fault that they

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Speaker 2: excluded wool? Was it cying Ora's fault for not saying

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Speaker 2: let's see what we can do patriotically speaking? Or should

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Speaker 2: everyone take a slice of the blame.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think over many years, many people have got

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Speaker 5: into the habit of thinking will, Oh, that's more expensive,

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Speaker 5: and so there's been a prejudice towards nylon and artificial

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Speaker 5: fees and a range of areas. And what we're doing

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Speaker 5: with our new policy is we're saying to every government agency,

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Speaker 5: wipe your minds clear of those old prejudices, and every

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Speaker 5: government tender where WILL could be used, we want you

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Speaker 5: to consider its use and give it a chance to compete.

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Speaker 5: Because actually, when you give it that chance, it competes

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Speaker 5: very well across a range of dimensions. It's very durable,

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Speaker 5: it's very healthy, it's very sustainable. This is a product

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Speaker 5: that is very good for new Zealand because these are

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Speaker 5: our sheep farmers. So it stacks up in terms of

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Speaker 5: a value proposition. So from now on, every government agency

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Speaker 5: when it does a tender, we'll have to consider WILL.

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Speaker 5: And I think that wall's going to show up really well.

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Speaker 2: And if they don't, for whatever reason, go with wool,

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Speaker 2: is there a question asked of them overtly why not?

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Speaker 2: And they all need to come up with something specific,

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Speaker 2: like it was twenty percent too expensive or whatever.

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Speaker 10: That's right exactly.

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Speaker 5: So they are now required to use WILL wherever it

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Speaker 5: is practical and appropriate. For any reason they exclude WILL,

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Speaker 5: they have to set out the reasons why, and we've

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Speaker 5: put out quite a detailed procurement guideline that takes them

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Speaker 5: through how they need to do that. And my expectation

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Speaker 5: is this is going to create major opportunities for the

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Speaker 5: wool industry, because of course, wool isn't just about carpet,

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Speaker 5: it's about insulation, it's about acoustic panels. It's been used

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Speaker 5: in all sorts of ways. And if you've got these

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Speaker 5: big government contracts for multi billion dollar fit outs in buildings,

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Speaker 5: then that's a massive opportunity for the wool industry to

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Speaker 5: show up.

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Speaker 10: With a new innovative product and say let's do it here.

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Speaker 5: They do that at scale in New Zealand, they prove it,

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Speaker 5: then they can export something similar offshore. So let's do

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Speaker 5: what's good for our economy, what's good for the taxpayer,

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Speaker 5: and what's good for our farmers good.

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Speaker 2: What's it worth in total? I mean when you say billions,

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Speaker 2: is it literally billions of dollars worth of cover.

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Speaker 5: Millions, millions of tens of kying or again I'm being

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Speaker 5: told to be careful about all.

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Speaker 2: We give us around number. Is it teams or hundreds

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Speaker 2: of millions of dollars? I mean it's a massive, massive.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be tense over time. And of course

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Speaker 5: the point here is this is for the new state

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Speaker 5: houses that have been fitted out. But wherever they need

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Speaker 5: to put brand new carpet into an existing home, they're

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Speaker 5: also going to use wool.

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Speaker 10: So this will build on itself.

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Speaker 5: And what I hope is that private sector landlords and

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Speaker 5: others who are thinking about carpeting are listening to this

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Speaker 5: and think, well, actually we've always just defaulted to nylon.

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Speaker 10: Maybe we should consider war too good.

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Speaker 2: They should quick question about Adrian and or what's the

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Speaker 2: point of having rules around the Official Information Act, if

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Speaker 2: someone like the Reserve Bank doesn't play by.

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Speaker 5: Them, well, it's my expectation that every government agency should

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Speaker 5: abide by its statutory obligations. Well they donating those under

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Speaker 5: the Official Information Act. Well, I have made clear that

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Speaker 5: I think this information could have been released earlier, that

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Speaker 5: that would have been appropriate, and I have also made

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Speaker 5: that clear to the Chairman of the Reserve Bank Board

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Speaker 5: Neil quickly.

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Speaker 2: The package or got going to tell us obviously, But

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Speaker 2: do you know what it is and why did he

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Speaker 2: get paid to leave when he packed us sad?

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Speaker 10: No, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I have intentionally stood aside from the employment discussions that

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Speaker 5: occurred between the Reserve Bank Board and the Governor. And

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Speaker 5: it's again my expectation that any agency conducting those sorts

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Speaker 5: of discussions meet its public obligations and its legal obligations.

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Speaker 10: And I've been assured that is the case.

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Speaker 2: Your summation as an observer, given what we learned yesterday

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Speaker 2: as to the conduct of the Reserve Bank and adrien

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Speaker 2: Or through this whole process, is what, Well.

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Speaker 5: It's pretty simple for me. The Reserve Bank is no

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Speaker 5: different from any other government agency in the sense that

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Speaker 5: it needs to provide value for taxpayers money, and any

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Speaker 5: idea that it somehow doesn't need to abide by the

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Speaker 5: same funding constraints that we're asking other government agencies too

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Speaker 5: is wrong. So when I entered the funding negotiation with

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Speaker 5: the Reserve Bank Board, I may that clear, and I

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Speaker 5: am glad that we got to an outcome where we've

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Speaker 5: got a reasonable level of funding which I'm assured is

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Speaker 5: sufficient for the Reserve Bank to do all of its

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Speaker 5: statutory jobs, but doesn't allow them to live in a

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Speaker 5: gilded palace with luxury levels.

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Speaker 10: Of funding that would not be appropriate.

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Speaker 5: And I think the Reserve Bank understand that, and we're

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Speaker 5: going forward together constructively.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nichol Aplic Time, Nikola Willis, Finance Minister, Minister

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Speaker 2: for Economic Growth, thirteen past seven.

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Speaker 2: We'll come to the feedback on the wall in just

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Speaker 2: a couple of moments. Morgan News on the Economy. Minister

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Speaker 2: of Agriculture Tod mclay's with us after seven thirty on

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Speaker 2: the five and numbers that we've got for you now,

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Speaker 2: decent series of good numbers of lat and health as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean all over the place that we've got the

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Speaker 2: Elective boost scheme that was announced by the government while

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Speaker 2: back as an elective surgery, they've come up with or

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Speaker 2: produced an additional nine and a half thousand procedures. Top

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Speaker 2: of the list has been cataracts, hernias and hips. Chris

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Speaker 2: Wakeman is a colorectal and general surgeon and as with us, Chris,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you. The public versus the private thing.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain that to us? And the angst around it?

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Speaker 2: If I need a hip, where I get it done

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Speaker 2: is irrelevant, isn't it? It's irrelevant, isn't it. Clearly he's

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Speaker 2: not with us. We'll come back to that in just

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Speaker 2: a couple of moments. We might always bought wall four houses.

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Speaker 2: One Reno synthetic was pushed recently as an advertising on

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Speaker 2: a recent renovation. I had to push a well known

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Speaker 2: company to get wool ten k for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty squares of house equality. Synthetic was more. And it's

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Speaker 2: the attitude. Oh it's rental carpet, so the attitude needs

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Speaker 2: to change. It's a very good point, Mike, As you said,

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Speaker 2: losing people mostly to Australia and the ones we are

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Speaker 2: losing the skill trades people. We're in this crisis when

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Speaker 2: it comes to qualified trades people. The ones that are

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Speaker 2: left in the country are getting paid what they demand,

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Speaker 2: causing massive inflation.

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Speaker 5: Rob.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's true, but certainly we are losing

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Speaker 2: skills and young skills to Australia. Specifically, my excellent news

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Speaker 2: on the wall carpet wall insulation made from wall as

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Speaker 2: in pink bats should be the next goal. Wall is great.

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Speaker 2: Now they have to ban the cheap plastic flooring like

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Speaker 2: the laminate and the vinyl as it's environmentally done. Real

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Speaker 2: wood is better and more sustainable. All right, let's see

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Speaker 2: if we can do it. Chris, you're with us. Some

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Speaker 2: seer apologies about the quality of the phone now public

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Speaker 2: the private. This is the thing that's perplexed me. If

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Speaker 2: I need a hip, where I get it done is irrelevant,

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Speaker 2: isn't it?

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Speaker 15: Yes?

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Speaker 12: I think so.

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Speaker 2: So where does the ank? Where does the where does

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Speaker 2: the angst come from? I don't understand it.

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Speaker 16: We have a I work public, an private and for

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Speaker 16: the university Attago, so a little bit of anks comes

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Speaker 16: from training. If we like yesterday I did four public

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Speaker 16: cases on my private lists, and that was great. They

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Speaker 16: were very efficient. They've got done quickly. They got done

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Speaker 16: by consultant surgeon. But what about in fifteen years time

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Speaker 16: when I retire, if the new surgeons coming through haven't

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Speaker 16: seen the simple stuff. The public hospitals are great for

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Speaker 16: doing complex multi surgeon procedures, but they are a dinosaur.

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Speaker 16: They're so inefficient.

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Speaker 2: Right, you're doing them in private at the same cost

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Speaker 2: as the public. So the public pays X number of

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Speaker 2: dollars and you can cover that off. So it's not

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Speaker 2: more expensive in private than other work.

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Speaker 16: While we as a surgeon, we and as an etheist,

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Speaker 16: as an ethodist, we actually take a discount price to

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Speaker 16: do the public stuff, so a little bit of charity.

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Speaker 2: Work, so it's cheaper.

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Speaker 12: That was still it's cheap.

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Speaker 16: Well, in public we're on a feat we're on an

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Speaker 16: hour on a yearly salary. We're in private. It's a

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Speaker 16: fee for service model. But compared to my private operation,

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Speaker 16: I'm getting paid less to do public work.

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Speaker 2: The capacity is explained by the Health Minister as there

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Speaker 2: is capacity in the private sector where there isn't capacity

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Speaker 2: in the public system is the the future and should

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Speaker 2: we have a problem. If it is, I think it

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Speaker 2: is the future.

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Speaker 16: I think it's a lot more efficient. You can do

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Speaker 16: a lot more work. The rules on ours are not there.

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Speaker 16: With the unions, it's just so much more efficient. But

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Speaker 16: we just need to build a model where we can

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Speaker 16: train our younger surgeons, younger neathed us, so they know

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Speaker 16: how to do the simple cases as well as the

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Speaker 16: complex hard cases.

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Speaker 2: When you look at public, is there anything obvious that

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Speaker 2: you can magic wand that would help or not?

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Speaker 16: We need to be more flexible in public about hours.

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Speaker 16: At public, at four o'clock they start wandering around and

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Speaker 16: saying when we be finished?

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 16: Will you be closed in half an hour? They even

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Speaker 16: come around at one o'clock and say, it looks like

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Speaker 16: you'll finished after four four point thirty, so we won't

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Speaker 16: let you do your second case. You know, as a

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Speaker 16: color recorcision, you know, I do sort of in public

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Speaker 16: two major bower cases a day. They take four to

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Speaker 16: five hours, so you know, if I'm going slow in

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Speaker 16: the first case, they might say and do my second

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Speaker 16: case right, So that has to wake a week week

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Speaker 16: until the next which is just so in a fashion

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Speaker 16: you wouldn't close your factory at four o'clock if you

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Speaker 16: still had work to do.

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Speaker 2: In a groom more interesting insight, chrispreciated pretty much. Apologies

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Speaker 2: with the phone once again, Chris Wakeman, who's christ Church

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Speaker 2: colorector and general surgeon nine and a half thousand procedures.

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Speaker 2: The reason I keep asking is that the Labor Party

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Speaker 2: keeps coming up with objections. They hate it, and as

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Speaker 2: you've just heard, it's cheaper in the private sector. They've

895
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Speaker 2: got capacity in the private sector. And you've just heard

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Speaker 2: how they run the public sector. And you wonder while

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Speaker 2: we got troubled seven twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Now, when it comes to investing, finding the right place,

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Speaker 2: of course, for the old, hard earned can be a

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Speaker 2: So they've been in business in this country for one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five years, so they kind of know

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Speaker 2: what they're doing. They not only pride themselves on providing

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Speaker 2: great rates for the investors passionately invested in the community

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Speaker 2: as well. They call it conserving the key we dream,

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Speaker 2: basically helping key, we say, for their dream futures while

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Speaker 2: helping those first time buyers into their dream homes. Now,

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Speaker 2: what does the key we dream look like to you?

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Speaker 2: There's a question you need to ask yourself. Is it

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Speaker 2: a comfortable retirement dream trip somewhere tropical well? SBS Bank

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Speaker 2: currently offering a rate of four percent parandum for their six,

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Speaker 2: twelve and eighteen months term deposit. That choice as yours,

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Speaker 2: helps you know, bring the dream a little bit closer.

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Speaker 2: Feel good investing in your KEYWI dream at the great

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Speaker 2: rate while conserving the key we dream for the generations

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Speaker 2: to come. It's all good. A rates are subject to change,

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Speaker 2: of course, minimum investment terms and conditions. Applying for more

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Speaker 2: information all the details Where you can start banking with

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Speaker 2: heart is at s BS bank dot co dot nzski

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Speaker 2: at seven twenty four. Federated Farmers, as part of Field

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Speaker 2: Days have done the most interesting survey. Now it's like

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Speaker 2: all surveys, it's a snapshot, but the numbers for one

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Speaker 2: lot are so stark alarm bell should be ringing. Now,

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Speaker 2: who would a farmer vote for? Do you think? Now?

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Speaker 2: You'd say, oh, probably national and you'd be right. Broadly.

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Speaker 2: The farming community is conservative, always has been, and that

929
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Speaker 2: is partly because they are their own masters, the workers,

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Speaker 2: their self reliant. They're at the cutting edge of the economy.

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Speaker 2: They know how life works. So National in this poll

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Speaker 2: get fifty four percent. Act get nineteen. Here is where

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Speaker 2: it gets interesting and or alarming. New Zealand first, get eight.

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Speaker 2: Only party with farmers at about the same level that

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Speaker 2: they are nationally Labor three ding ding ding ding ding

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Speaker 2: ding ding ding. How bad is that, even with a

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Speaker 2: margin of era, even with a massive margin of era.

938
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Speaker 2: Labour should be shocked at that figure. Every party, of course,

939
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Speaker 2: has their sweet spot. I mean some parties more overtly

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Speaker 2: say so the Greens who would vote for the Greens,

941
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Speaker 2: while the Ants as environmentalists or communists act serm up

942
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Speaker 2: market urban liberals a New Zealand first. A provincial number

943
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Speaker 2: might be higher than a city number for New Zealand first,

944
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Speaker 2: but Labor and National as major parties, should be by

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Speaker 2: their very nature broad based. After all, it is Labor

946
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Speaker 2: National and Labor National alone that will lead any given

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Speaker 2: government on any given day. You have to at least

948
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Speaker 2: have a half decent level of support even in your

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Speaker 2: weakest dead areas, don't you. Farming is particularly important given

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Speaker 2: where a farming nation, given the foreign receipts we get

951
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Speaker 2: from land, given the value of our free trade deals.

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Speaker 2: To have a major party so out of touch with

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Speaker 2: such a large sector strikes me as being astonishing, if

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Speaker 2: not embarrassing, if not in fact unheard off. My suspicion

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Speaker 2: is the current version of labor is particularly unpalatable, and

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Speaker 2: this is going to be their major issue next year

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Speaker 2: for all voters, in fact, not just farmers. The damage

958
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Speaker 2: done to this country is still fresh in most of

959
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Speaker 2: our minds, no more so than farmers climate obsession, special

960
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Speaker 2: land area designation, three waters with mari overreached, no gas,

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Speaker 2: more paperwork. Farmers hated it, a lot of us hated it.

962
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Speaker 2: But in general polls, of course, labour is still competitive

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Speaker 2: on the land. They seem, according to this to be

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Speaker 2: Pariah's at three percent. Think about it. That is a

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Speaker 2: massive hill for Hepkins and co. To climb between now

966
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Speaker 2: on October next year asking and we'll talk to Todd

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Speaker 2: McClay about the food and fiber. We're going to crack records,

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Speaker 2: more records. The other benefit of private v public mind

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Speaker 2: because there's no chance of surgery's going to be canceled

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Speaker 2: or bumped due to the emergency surgery. Did you know

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Speaker 2: about that? In public? Four o'clock everyone starts to wine.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I knew about that as a public service,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't think it helped ar out. I thought foolishly.

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Speaker 2: Public hospital was twenty four to seven. It just worked

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Speaker 2: around the clock. But clearly the unionization of the place

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Speaker 2: is hindering it. I'm assuming simions onto it. Next time

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Speaker 2: we get them on the program, we'll ask, obviously, But

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Speaker 2: let's get back to the good news Thursday and those

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Speaker 2: export receipts for us in a couple of moments with

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Speaker 2: the Trade Minister.

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Speaker 1: News is next New Zealand's home for trusted news and views,

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Speaker 1: the mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real

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Speaker 1: estate differently since nineteen seventy three, news togs had been Mike.

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Speaker 2: My wife is a theater nurse. Auckland private hospital said

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Speaker 2: they put through a lot more operations than public. She

986
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Speaker 2: said major working accidents, et cetera would be better at public. Mike,

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Speaker 2: the problem with the low risk, straightforward cases they get

988
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Speaker 2: referred to the private complex. Patients with comorbidities get left

989
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Speaker 2: in the public system. Look, I agree with all of that,

990
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Speaker 2: but all I'm saying is stop objecting to what clearly

991
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Speaker 2: is a tangible, sensible answer. And if you can pump

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Speaker 2: through nine and a half to ten thousand extra operations,

993
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Speaker 2: that's nine and a half to ten thousand people who

994
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Speaker 2: were on a list who are now no longer on

995
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Speaker 2: a list. I mean, for goodness sake, the problem solve.

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Speaker 17: Mike.

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Speaker 2: The trouble with public private is that it now takes

998
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Speaker 2: much longer to get your work done privately. I'm not

999
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Speaker 2: sure that's true, l because this is spare capacity. It's

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Speaker 2: not like they're bumping people off their list to take

1001
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Speaker 2: on other people in another list. Mike, listening in Sydney,

1002
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Speaker 2: this is a positive set of numbers that you're presenting,

1003
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Speaker 2: fear uplifting at last. We good. I'm glad you're listening

1004
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: in Sydney. Move back home for goodness sake. You see

1005
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Speaker 2: the immigration numbers yesterday, Mike, reefarmers only forty thousand farmers

1006
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: in the country. Despite the impact on the economy, strategically,

1007
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: labor would rather ignore them. It's not a bad point.

1008
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes away from a Jimmy Carr, one of

1009
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Speaker 2: the hardest working people in the comedic business, is coming

1010
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: back to the country. So we owned in Britain somewhere

1011
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 2: at night performing so we'll get them off stage and

1012
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Speaker 2: he's on the show after eight meantime back here. More

1013
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: yet more good numbers around our economy, it seems Export

1014
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Speaker 2: New Zealand think pretty much roll at the moment. Food

1015
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: and fiber are on track to surpass the sixty billion

1016
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: mark for the first time. That'll be three billion higher

1017
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Speaker 2: than projected. Harts up nineteen percent to eight and a

1018
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: half billion, Dairy of course, sixteen percent up to twenty

1019
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: seven billion. That story is well told. Tom mcclay's the

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Speaker 2: Agriculture and Trade Minister of course, and as well it's

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00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: Todd Morning Field days good.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a great feeling yesterday, very positive. Fun is a

1023
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 9: feeling good and we're starting to hear from a lot

1024
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Speaker 9: of the exhibitors there that they're starting to spend some money.

1025
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 9: So that's great for the economy.

1026
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Speaker 2: So that twenty percent in the budget will or is working.

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00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is. Look, I think they're still going to

1028
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 9: be cautious and just rates have only just started to

1029
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 9: come down and they'll be just a bit letter around

1030
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Speaker 9: and there's a you know, international uncertainty, but I heard

1031
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Speaker 9: a story of one farmer yesterday that bought three tractors,

1032
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 9: said he's needed them for a long time, but this

1033
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 9: has just helped them, and he decided to spend that

1034
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 9: money now rather than on the back of good dairy payouts.

1035
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Speaker 9: Pay a bit of tacks.

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Speaker 2: Good This sixty billion, I mean, is this sheer demand?

1037
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 2: And if it is, where's the demand coming from.

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00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 9: It's a combination of three things. Yes, more demand around

1039
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 9: the world. We're seeing Europe are very good for us

1040
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 9: out of those free trade agreements, Southeast Asia and even

1041
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 9: China starting to comeback quite strongly now, at least for

1042
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 9: New Zealand exporters. Secondly, we've had a good year for

1043
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 9: a grass growing and a lot more milk out there.

1044
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Speaker 9: And then we're also seeing that in many cases starting

1045
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Speaker 9: to go the value chain a little bit more. I'm

1046
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Speaker 9: going to give you an example of one of those numbers,

1047
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 9: horses up twenty percent for the first time ever. Zespury

1048
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 9: has sold five billion dollars with a kiwi fruit around

1049
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 9: the world. That's extra volume, but it's extra value as well.

1050
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 2: So the supply side of that equation, if we grew more,

1051
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: planted more, did more, could we sell more or are

1052
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: we at max.

1053
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Speaker 9: No, we could so, absolutely we could. And the reason

1054
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 9: for that is, you know, we are a small producer

1055
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Speaker 9: compared to the population of the world. So think of

1056
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 9: it this way. You know, we're in India, in fact,

1057
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 9: I think last week I had negotiators up there in India.

1058
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Speaker 9: I met with the Indian trademan as the last week

1059
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Speaker 9: and we said to our negotiators, get on with it.

1060
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Speaker 9: We're very keen for a deal. If we unlock that,

1061
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 9: even just half of the potential that Australia on their FDA,

1062
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 9: we could not produce enough food for the demand in

1063
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 9: that market. But guess what I backed my negotiators get

1064
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 9: a better deal.

1065
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Speaker 2: Good is our people cognizant of all of this in

1066
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: the sense who is and where are they that can

1067
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: buy more land, plant more land, develop more land, do

1068
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: all of that? And is that happening or not?

1069
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 9: Well, it's two things. We're going through a lot of

1070
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 9: reform of planning rules and water and so on to

1071
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 9: focus on better outcomes, not just expensive processes. And so

1072
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 9: actually what we have the oportunity is maximize the production

1073
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Speaker 9: on the land that we already have. But I've got

1074
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Speaker 9: a piece of work under way that we'll be talking

1075
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Speaker 9: about soon. That Raally says, if you can show the

1076
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 9: same or an improved environmental or climate footprint, then why

1077
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 9: shouldn't you be able to change your land, juice or

1078
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 9: produce more. And so we've got to move away from

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Speaker 9: a situation that it says we have to, you know,

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00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 9: we should be producing less for a result, leaning into

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00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 9: technology and innovation and finding ways to be much more

1082
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 9: productive because guess what our farmers are how we make

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00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 9: New Zealand Richard.

1084
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: The other part of the equation. So beef's an interesting one.

1085
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: There's a lack of beef in some parts of the

1086
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: world being locally produced. Therefore we fill the void. Is

1087
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: there a chance that those people start producing more, whether

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00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: it's beef or dairy or whatever, and then we're a

1089
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: bit stuck.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's always going to happen a little better. I mean,

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00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 9: I think about a number of markets. We always compete locally.

1092
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 9: What happens is we don't often compete on price. So

1093
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 9: if I take the EU market or the Chinese market,

1094
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 9: we generally are at a higher price point in that

1095
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 9: market than their producers are, So that means we're not

1096
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 9: competing unfairly. But I was talking to one of our

1097
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 9: big exporters yesterday. We launched a grass fed certification and

1098
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 9: standard that says the New Zealand government put a stamp

1099
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 9: on your product dairy or red meat to say as

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Speaker 9: grass because we know in a number of markets around

1101
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 9: the world those consumers are willing to pay more. They

1102
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 9: told me with everything going on in the US, their

1103
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 9: grass fed brand just has the greatest amount of growth

1104
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 9: of any of their products ever there. And it's across

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00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 9: the board. So even if we do face competition elsewhere,

1106
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 9: that high quality, safe reputation that we have, you know,

1107
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 9: backing that up will mean that actually we can weather

1108
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 9: the odd storm.

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00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: Good related matters your thing on key we saber and

1110
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: opening it up to farms and stock and stuff. Where

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00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: are you at with that?

1112
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1113
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 9: It works works underweight certainly on that. That was a

1114
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 9: commitment we made before the election. We've sort of been

1115
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 9: chunking through the very long list of things that we

1116
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 9: committed to doing for the primary sect. There are and

1117
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 9: some of the ones who are most important holding them back.

1118
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 9: But I would expect we'll have more to say before

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00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 9: the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Appreciate your time. Tom McLay, who's the Egg

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Speaker 2: and Trade Minister with us this morning at seventeens.

1122
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: Away Cool the mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 12: It'd be.

1125
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: Text reminder of an article from yesterday, Mike, I only

1126
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: our prime minister talk to us like Todd does. Richard

1127
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 2: Prebble's piece yesterday, well Worth reading It might be today,

1128
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: I can't remember anyway, well Worth reading and he concludes

1129
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: he sees potentially the next election as a landslide to

1130
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: the government if Luxon gets his act together, and he

1131
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: sums it up very nicely, he needs to stop managing

1132
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: and start leading. I thought that was a good way

1133
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: of putting it. And he came to us. Well came

1134
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 2: to the article from the point of having run campaigns,

1135
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: not just being a politician, but having run campaigns for

1136
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 2: back down the Labor Party. By the way, Canterbury Amp

1137
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: reported back as in the Agriculture and Pastoral Show, which

1138
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: we've talked about a bit on the program, David Carter

1139
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: does it these days, well known Canterbury name, former politician,

1140
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: of course, and the whole thing was going under and

1141
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: then they got an ejection for the council a million.

1142
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: They've got to pay back in four million on a

1143
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: long term this sort of deal. Anyway, they're reported back

1144
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: on last year's AMP show, which was a downsized version

1145
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: of what it should be could be, and they said

1146
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 2: things are great and we'll be scaling back up this year.

1147
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: So things in that particular area good and we'll come

1148
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: back to that in just a couple of money. It's

1149
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: because everyone's moving to christ Dutch, of course, and that's

1150
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 2: a fact because we got those numbers out yesterday, Mike.

1151
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 2: Given we could sell more products, it's a shame so

1152
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: much productive lands now growing in pine trees. Andy. That's

1153
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: a very good point you make. But then having said that,

1154
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: and people text me all the time about this, if

1155
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: you're growing and it's great to talk about carpon wool,

1156
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: but if you're growing sheep and it's strong wool you're doing,

1157
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: you're not getting much money for the strong wool. And

1158
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden somebody comes along and goes,

1159
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 2: i'll pay you X number of dollars for three hundred

1160
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: and sixty seven hectares and you're going to plant some

1161
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: trees and it you'll take the dough and that is

1162
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 2: the complexity of the argument. And that's before you get

1163
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: to the actual climate side of the equation. And when

1164
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: you're signed up to Paris and you're committed to being

1165
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: carbon zero by twenty fifty and the easiest thing you

1166
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: can possibly do is have some trees planted. Then you're

1167
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: going to plant some trees. As we discussed on the

1168
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 2: program the other day, council in Queenstown, and I'm hearing

1169
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 2: increasing stories about queens and I've got to get back

1170
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: down there. Haven't been there for a little while, but

1171
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure increasingly hearing stories of Queenstown. Tourists love it.

1172
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: Place is over full, doesn't function well anymore, and we're

1173
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: on the verge of blowing it. So they do a

1174
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: survey the local council, seventeen percent support from the locals.

1175
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: Seventeen percent think they're doing a good job. So do

1176
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: the math and work out how many don't. So that's

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Speaker 2: down from forty four. So even forty four a year

1178
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: ago wasn't that flash. It's gone from forty four to seventeen.

1179
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 2: So what are we not liking? Traffic congestion, increasing tourism,

1180
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: infrastructure pressure. So the increasing tourism is always going to

1181
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 2: be a thing. We can't get around it. Stop moaning

1182
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: about it. We make a lot of money from it.

1183
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: You just got to put up with it. That's life,

1184
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: cows and tourism, traffic, congestion, I get the infrastructure pressure

1185
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: I get as well, so that because we're not dovetailing

1186
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: this stuff, small towns don't have a rating base to

1187
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: be able to cope with all the people who want

1188
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: to come to that particular part of the world. Sixteen

1189
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: percent agree the council created long term solutions, so virtually

1190
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 2: no one. Seventeen percent said the council made decisions in

1191
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: the district's best interest, so virtually no one. Twenty three

1192
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: percent were satisfied with call services like roading, waterways, and

1193
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: the majority not. So you're always going to get I

1194
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: suspective a council goes out and go, hey, what do

1195
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: you think of us? You're always going to get a

1196
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: negative response because that's how people are. But these numbers

1197
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: that I would have thought, and the Jewel and the Crown,

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00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: as far as tourism is concerned, as a massive wake

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Speaker 2: up call so to the business of people moving to

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00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: christ Church and the South in general. These census numbers

1201
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: yesterday are amazing. So more in a moment, tend away.

1202
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, Octurn News Tokstad

1203
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Speaker 1: b Loto.

1204
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Speaker 2: It is seven away from eight. South Island is a magnet.

1205
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 2: New data twenty three from twenty twenty three that census

1206
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 2: shift south is real and speak eighty five thousand people

1207
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 2: moved south. Of those eighty five thousand, forty thousand moved

1208
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: to the Canterbury region alone Auckland net migration loss of

1209
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: fifty thousand people over five years. So that's material, It's real.

1210
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: Ali Adams is the CEO of christ jurchen Z and

1211
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 2: is with us.

1212
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 12: Ali Morning, Good morning, how are you.

1213
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm very well and it speaks volumes. Isn't it a

1214
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: sort of christ Church is a build it and they

1215
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: will come story? Isn't it?

1216
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 17: Look it's remarkable. I think I feel very privileged to

1217
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 17: be able to promote this brilliant city at this fantastic time.

1218
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 17: We've got incredible assets and people are really realizing that

1219
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 17: you really can have it all in christ Church. You

1220
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 17: can have a brilliant career around a brilliant life in.

1221
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: Christ Church and the regency, the education minister was and

1222
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: sell them the other day announcing new schools. Is it

1223
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: sort of spread or are you going to have some

1224
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: infrastructural issues there eventually.

1225
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 17: Look, I'm not the best person to answer that. I'm

1226
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 17: fortunate enough to work in the christ Church City region.

1227
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 17: Our infrastructure there obviously because of the challenges that came

1228
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 17: from the earthquake and that was a terrible time. But

1229
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 17: mean that our infrastructure actually is in pretty good shape,

1230
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 17: particularly from a city attraction perspective. So we have obviously

1231
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 17: the stadium coming online next year, but also we've got

1232
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 17: incredible things like the new Pataciori Metro Sports facility, We've

1233
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 17: got the new Court Theater. We've got a pretty incredible

1234
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 17: infrastructure that makes us a real magnet and able to

1235
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 17: attract things like major events like supercars and things that

1236
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 17: we just wouldn't be able to get otherwise.

1237
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 2: At the risk of making a complete press of myself,

1238
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: are you a new immigrant or a new issue immigrant, You're.

1239
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 17: Not making you proud of yourself in it. I've got

1240
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 17: probably one of those maxeduptacks. And I'm not Newish. No,

1241
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 17: I came over in two thousand and three.

1242
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: Okay, what I'm saying is you haven't been here your

1243
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: whole life, so you're seeing the country from relatively new eyes.

1244
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 2: What's your impression of it.

1245
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 17: Look I think christ Church is remarkable. I think that

1246
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 17: I would call it a real Goldilock city. There's not

1247
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 17: many places like it in the world, where you know,

1248
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 17: I mean to be twenty minutes from an international airport,

1249
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 17: to be able to the old classic cliche surf in

1250
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 17: the morning and ski in the afternoon. It is the

1251
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 17: best place in the world to bring up kids, and

1252
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 17: I brought my children up here. It is just an

1253
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 17: incredible city. One of the things that is really worth mentioning.

1254
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 17: I mean, I was not young when I came here,

1255
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 17: but actually one of the things in this latest census

1256
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 17: is that a lot of the people that are coming

1257
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 17: down from the North Island are young. Forty three percent

1258
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 17: of those coming from Auckland are in the fifteen to

1259
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 17: twenty four age bracket. And for me, that's the most

1260
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 17: exciting thing as an economic developer, because that means people

1261
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 17: are coming down here to study and they're going to

1262
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 17: stay here and really contribute to our ongoing economy. They're

1263
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 17: either going to start businesses or get into our workforce

1264
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 17: and that to me is really exciting.

1265
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: So do you think this is a fed as in

1266
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 2: for the next few years everyone goes, Oh Christ, it's

1267
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: so exciting, or do you think this is this is

1268
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: long term, this is a this is a a thing.

1269
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 17: I think this is the thing. I mean, cities do

1270
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 17: go in cycles, we all know that, but actually I

1271
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 17: think christ Church as unique assets are not going anywhere.

1272
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 17: So it's just a little bit like people have discovered

1273
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 17: what the tourists have known for a long time, which

1274
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 17: is that this place is pretty special.

1275
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: I can speak to from experience early Ellie appreciate it.

1276
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: Ellie Adams, who's the cheap executive officer of christ Church

1277
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: in Zen, not the whole place. It's not like she's

1278
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: the mirror or the boss, and it's just that's the

1279
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: name of the business. Mike, I think you need to

1280
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: jump on the migration bend waging to christ It's not

1281
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: sure if you've considered Colin, do you not listen to

1282
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: the program? And I regunizing no one has talked more

1283
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: often about moving to christ Church than I have. And

1284
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: the interesting thing about those numbers when they came out

1285
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: yesterday and I saw them, is I was kind of

1286
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: embarrassed because I'm one of those people who goes tell

1287
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: you what I'm doing, tell you what I'm doing. I'm

1288
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: going to Christich. Yeah, no worries and all you already have.

1289
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: And I'm still sitting in the same place going I

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Speaker 2: tell you what, I'm still considering going to Christich, and

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Speaker 2: you're going to come on, mate, stop talking about it

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00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: and actually do something about it. There are astonishing numbers

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00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: when you think about it. Auckland should be embarrassed. Fifty

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00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: thousand people have got up and left. Numbers don't lie.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Carr is with us after the News, which is

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Speaker 2: next to your news talks.

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Speaker 8: So you to get there, then let's lead over.

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Speaker 10: We can Daz, we can ds.

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Speaker 1: No setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the

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Speaker 1: mic haring, Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way,

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Speaker 1: News togs had.

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Speaker 2: Been a seven past. Jimmy khm he is coming back.

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01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: I got some headlines last time he was here. He

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01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: did an earthquake joke and christ Jury. He called him

1305
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: the cargo at the end of the World. He called

1306
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: everyone from Hark's play in Brint. That tour globally went

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01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: on to sell one point two million tickets, so it's

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01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: not like we don't like it. The new tour is

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01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: called laughs funny how Jimmy Cara is on the road

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Speaker 2: in Britain currently and is with us.

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Speaker 12: Good morning, well, good evening. Obviously I'm phoning from the

1312
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 12: future of the past. Are you a head or behind?

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01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 12: I know, I know you're so far away that this

1314
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 12: is ridiculous. It's morning there, right.

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Speaker 2: And you will day. It is morning here, and you

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01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: will You'll be coming our way. Do I have you

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01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: in Basingstoke?

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Speaker 12: I just left Basis, Okay, I just did a show

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01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 12: and it was fantastic fun I'm coming to New Zealand

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01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 12: obviously that's the reason I'm calling, but just to check

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01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 12: in with you. How's things down there. It's one of

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Speaker 12: my favorite thing. Every three years I get to come

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01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 12: and I basically miss winter. I get to come down

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Speaker 12: to New Zealand in January. It's like the perfect time.

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Speaker 2: Good well, we're looking forward to seeing you talk to

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Speaker 2: me about your work ethic. I've got you in bazing Stoke,

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01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: Kroyd and Great Melvin, couple of shows there. I've got

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01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: you in Feoreom, I've got you in Aylesbury, got you

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01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 2: in Canterbury and you still haven't even left Britain. I've

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01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 2: got you on the television. I've got you to talk

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Speaker 2: big pitch for Netflix. Do you ever stop working?

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean, look, this is show business. There'll be

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Speaker 12: people listening to this with proper jobs that put in

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01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 12: a shift. There'll be people digging ditches with some headphones

1335
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 12: in going Oh, he stands up? Does he? He stands

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01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 12: up for two hours a night and tells jokes, Ah

1337
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 12: the putt? Is there a go fund me? Can we

1338
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 12: help this poor preacher? It's like, it's such a joyful thing.

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01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 12: My issue with life is work is more fun than fun.

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01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 12: Like if I have a night off, what am I doing?

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 12: I'm sitting at home, Adam Mattie. If they come out

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Speaker 12: and do a show, it's such a joyful thing, and

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01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 12: so much of it is kind of interactive as well

1344
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 12: these days, like I write the show like I bother

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01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 12: writing the jokes and go, look that's a solid sort

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 12: of two hundred jokes in a row. I've got Fastball

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01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 12: are like a short, punchy joke, right. I like the

1348
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 12: chatting to people and traveling the world. It's just it's joyful.

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01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 12: So I work as much as I possibly can. I

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01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 12: also think I do have a propensity to get canceled

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01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 12: once in a while, so you never know when your

1352
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 12: last one's going to be.

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Speaker 2: What's your read on being canceled at the moment? I

1354
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: feel that the times they are are changing and we're

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01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: returning to a level of normality. Is that fear or not?

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Speaker 12: I think it was always pretty normal. I think we

1357
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 12: came up with a new word, a new a new phrase,

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01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 12: and it was something to hang a newspaper story on.

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01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 12: But there was always the thing of like you got dragged.

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01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 12: It used to be called getting dragged in the papers sometimes.

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Speaker 12: I mean, the worst it ever gets for me is

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01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 12: sometimes I tell a joke and some people don't like it.

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01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 12: You've got to right size that right, You've got to

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Speaker 12: see it in people real problems in the world. And

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Speaker 12: I'm not for everyone and edgy jokes. There's you know,

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Speaker 12: there's there's there's limits on it. You know, some some

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01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 12: times it's not for everyone. So I respect that it's

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Speaker 12: part of the part of the job. But the whole

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Speaker 12: cancel culture thing is you go well as long as

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Speaker 12: you don't get canceled by your own audience. I think

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Speaker 12: your golden it's not the new burning books, I think,

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Speaker 12: and it's actually it's something that I think we miss

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01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 12: in our culture is the there's like we shouldn't have

1374
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 12: laws saying what we can and what we can't say.

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Speaker 12: I'm a big advocate for freedom of speech. It should

1376
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 12: never be you can't say that, But what we're missing

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Speaker 12: is a mustn't.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you more. As far as your jokesphuse,

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Speaker 2: I watched the other day. There's big picture is that

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Speaker 2: I've only seen one correct me if I'm wrong. I

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01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: think there's only one out. Has that gone well?

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Speaker 12: I mean I think so the check didn't bounce? What

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01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 12: do you want from me? That was like we did

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01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 12: a fun Netflix has got a YouTube channel called Netflix

1385
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 12: is a Joke, and I think they wanted to do

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01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 12: some original content for that. So they asked me to

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01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 12: do a podcast. Very nice and it was kind of

1388
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 12: Me and some friends got together, people pitch me movie

1389
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 12: ideas and we kind of it's sort of like a

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Speaker 12: I don't I do a lot of improv with the audience.

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01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 12: I don't often get to do improv with other comics

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01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 12: one on one. Normally it's on panel shows and things.

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Speaker 12: So it's a really fun thing to do. So there's

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01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 12: some fun episodes of it. I mean, judge for yourself.

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01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 12: There's so much content out there now. I sort of

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01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 12: think if you see something that you're not enjoying, it's

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01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 12: your fault.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 12: Like it, if you watch anything you don't enjoy for

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Speaker 12: more than five minutes, it's really buyer beware.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. See, that's why I'm asking the

1403
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 2: question because I'm looking at the first episode and it's

1404
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: it's because you've got to show with your jokes, and yes,

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01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: you interact with the audience, and I get all of that,

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01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: but you know where you're eight. You know where your

1407
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: starting point is, your funny lines, your hive, your arc,

1408
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. This big pitch thing.

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01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: You're working hard, you're sort of you're improving with the guests.

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01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: The whole way. It seemed like hard work, fun but

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01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: hard work.

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Speaker 12: I don't know, I think kind of it's your in

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01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 12: that mind space. It's a really fun thing. It's really

1414
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 12: something to kind of be able to turn that on

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01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 12: and be you know, kind of spontaneous and funny and

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01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 12: and kind of I don't know, I think funny is

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 12: a lot of the time. I don't know how you

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01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 12: would define comedy. I think probably the best I could

1419
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 12: do for you is to say it's deviation from expectations.

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01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 12: That's not what comedy is, right, Yeah, it's a it's

1421
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 12: a everything's a misdirect. So when you get into that

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01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 12: framework where you're seeing the world like that, so whenever

1423
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 12: whenever something comes up, you're kind of you're messing around,

1424
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 12: You're giving your mind something to do. So for me,

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01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 12: it's been very much kind of the antidote to anxiety.

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Speaker 12: I think this is the way I think about mental health.

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Speaker 12: I think right, depression is when you're thinking about the past,

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01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 12: and anxieties when you think about the future. And I've

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01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 12: got a propensity to be a little bit anxious. I

1430
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 12: worry about things that haven't happened yet, but it's almost

1431
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 12: like there aren't enough problems for me to worry about,

1432
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 12: so I get ahead of myself and actually, if I've

1433
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 12: got jokes and things to do and stuff to think

1434
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 12: about writing, it takes care of that. I just kind

1435
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 12: of busy myself with it. It's interesting, seems to be

1436
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 12: for me to kind of secure for anxiety.

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01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: Because I watched a bit of the you know, the

1438
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: Eldis and Heyman thing. I don't know when that was,

1439
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: was that last week into the weekend before, and you

1440
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 2: talked a bit about depression and stuff like that, so

1441
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 2: that it seems to be almost medicinal. Is that what

1442
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: you were trying to say?

1443
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, so I think it's a really healthy way to

1444
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 12: be and everything that people are interested in doing right,

1445
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 12: whether it's coming to see a comedy show live or

1446
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 12: going to see a big rock concert or a play

1447
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 12: or a football match. People want to go and watch

1448
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 12: play and it's performative going to see stuff. The illusion

1449
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 12: is the person on stage is the only person playing,

1450
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 12: but everyone's playing. We're playing a role in that. It's

1451
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 12: a performative thing to go and see a show, and

1452
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 12: that seems to be the thing that we lose as

1453
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 12: we get older. People play less and getting in that

1454
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 12: headspace where you're playing is just for any job, It

1455
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 12: doesn't matter how serious your job.

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01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: Does success dubtail into that for you? So in other words,

1457
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: do you need to be successful or is the therapy,

1458
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 2: if you like, just in the performance itself.

1459
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 15: I don't know.

1460
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 12: I mean I think that thing about going how do

1461
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 12: you judge success? You know, I think that thing about

1462
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 12: what's your metric? Who are you judging against? You know,

1463
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 12: there's a there's a you know, what do you want?

1464
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 12: Is kind of the important question in life, isn't it?

1465
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 17: Yes?

1466
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 2: It is all right? Listen, hold on there for a

1467
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: couple of moments. Jimmy Carr, who's with us? Posted show

1468
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 2: tonight hitting our way eventually more details of just a

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01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: couple of moments. Sport Team Past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard

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Speaker 1: By News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be news Talks, It'll be seventeen past day. Jimmy

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01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 2: Car's on his way here. Actually, speaking of which, Jimmy,

1474
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: when you, you know, get the show done locally, In other words,

1475
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: by the time you leave ailes fit A wherever you

1476
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: are tonight and you hit New Zealand, what have you

1477
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: done to the show.

1478
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 12: I suppose it's like that thing of I write constantly,

1479
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 12: so I at the end of every show, I out

1480
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 12: of piece of paper and I try new jokes that

1481
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 12: I've written that week or that day, ideally that day,

1482
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 12: and I'm constantly trying new stuff and adding stuff in,

1483
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 12: and so the show kind of it gets better over time,

1484
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 12: so by the time it gets to New Zealand, it'll

1485
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 12: be you know, it's pretty well, it's moved out a

1486
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 12: little bit, but then you want you I mean, I'm

1487
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 12: always excited by new stuff because sometimes you just swap

1488
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 12: new things in and just go, well, whatever's kind of

1489
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 12: you know, current, what's the whatever feels like, it's.

1490
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Speaker 2: What's the thrill of the performances? Because I'm watching you

1491
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 2: on You've got your own YouTube channel. You mentioned Joe Rogan,

1492
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 2: so I saw some of that that was three hours long.

1493
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that's a how do you sit

1494
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 2: and talk to somebody for three hours?

1495
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 12: Well, it's very easy to talk to Joe because he's

1496
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 12: got Actually, my friend Chris Williamson came up with this

1497
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 12: theory of reverse charisma. Okay, no, Joe's got a lot

1498
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 12: of natural charisma, very charismatic on stage. Reverse charisma. Right,

1499
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 12: you could spend all your time trying to be a brilliant,

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Speaker 12: interesting person, or you could take interest in other people.

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01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 12: Joe's genuinely, he's incredibly interested in other people and how

1502
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 12: they work and what they think. He just naturally has that,

1503
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 12: and it's kind of reverse charisma. And actually when you

1504
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 12: come away from the conversation. Like sometimes people like they

1505
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 12: try and show off, right, So in the conversation they're

1506
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 12: trying to be the smartest guy. Actually he's not. He's

1507
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 12: always trying to come away from the conversation and you

1508
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 12: feel like you're the smartest person in the room after

1509
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 12: speaking to him for three and a half hours.

1510
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a talent. I've heard that before. The reason

1511
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 2: I asked that question. So you got your own YouTube channel,

1512
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 2: you talked to Joe Rogan, You're on Netflix, you're on Amazon.

1513
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 2: You do all that sort of stuff, getting to in

1514
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: the cargole on a plane, catching a cab, staying in

1515
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: a hotel, then slipping up the road to Wamoru to

1516
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 2: christ Due to do it. That's hard work. Where's the

1517
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 2: joy in that?

1518
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 12: For you? Well? I mean for that, it's like I

1519
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 12: always think, I slightly think not to be not that

1520
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 12: I've now said the narcissism of small differences, But I

1521
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 12: sometimes look at other comics and they think they've been

1522
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 12: to New Zealand, and I go, oh, you toured New Zealand.

1523
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 12: Oh great, I'm going to try and have a conversation

1524
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 12: about Napier or Duneaton and they go, no, no, I

1525
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 12: had one night in Auckland, and I go, oh, you

1526
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 12: missed it, and you missed a great time. Because if

1527
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 12: you get out there and see it all, it's you know,

1528
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 12: you've got to travel. You've got to get to the places.

1529
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 12: And there's people that like me enough to come and

1530
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 12: see me if I come to their town. But you

1531
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 12: know they're not booking a hotel and I'm not Taylor Swift.

1532
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 12: Maybe there's an environmental angle as well. If I travel, you.

1533
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: Don't have to Yeah, that is true. That is true

1534
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: as well.

1535
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Speaker 12: Well, it's also that thing of like sometimes sometimes in

1536
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 12: the big towns as well. I'm playing New York this month.

1537
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 12: I just played La in the big towns, people are

1538
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 12: the options. There's a hundred different things. They could have

1539
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 12: come that night, and I'm spoiled. They came to see me.

1540
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 12: Sometimes you play in the cargo there ain't much else

1541
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 12: going on. Great, great, I'll take that.

1542
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 2: Good on you. Well, we're looking for it a while.

1543
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: Why it's the only part of the next year, but

1544
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: we'll book early. By the way, who Taylor's you. I

1545
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 2: was watching a couple of these things. You are immaculately tailored.

1546
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 2: Who does that for you?

1547
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 12: Well, I've got it's my very good friend. It's Tom

1548
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 12: Sweeney is the name of Mike Taylor. But having a

1549
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 12: I mean that's a very english gent thing to have.

1550
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 12: That's a very lucky thing in life to have good

1551
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 12: suits and then excuse to dress up as well, because

1552
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 12: people often ask that why don't you wear jeans and

1553
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 12: a T shirt on stage when you just wear both.

1554
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 12: But I sort of think it's it's partly that thing

1555
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 12: of wanting to look. I want to feel like I'm

1556
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 12: going to work, but also want to put a tie

1557
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 12: on because I want you to feel like you've paid

1558
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 12: hard earned money. Like I always think of that thing

1559
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 12: of Mike. There's someone in the audience that's worked a

1560
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 12: manual job, like you know, sweat is in order to

1561
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 12: buy the tickets and buy the missus dinner and get

1562
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 12: some drinks. At least I can do stick on a suit,

1563
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 12: come correct. I was like that term, come correct, tress up,

1564
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 12: make an effort for people. I've written the jokes. I'll

1565
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 12: look all right, I'll do this for you because when

1566
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 12: you walk on, the first impression is okay, this we

1567
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 12: can relax. Yeah, guy's a professional.

1568
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: Good on you. What's Tom Runner suit for? What's Tom

1569
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 2: do you a suit for?

1570
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 12: Oh? It's it's it's a I get a good deal.

1571
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 12: I mean, I mean, I don't want to sound like

1572
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 12: that guy, but I do own a bit.

1573
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Speaker 8: Of it, all right.

1574
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Speaker 2: I'm going to look it up on the website and

1575
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: give some prices out in the moment. Listen, go well,

1576
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: and we'll catch up with you when you come early

1577
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Speaker 2: next year, Jimmy Carr, I'll give you dates in a moment.

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Speaker 2: make a very nice so Christmas present. Fantastic interview with

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Speaker 2: Jimmy car Mike, thank you very much. Nylon reversible bomber

1606
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Speaker 2: jacket from mister Sweeney as five thousand. I think these

1607
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Speaker 2: are US dollars as well.

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Speaker 14: Well, and we've already established it. We're not doing nylon anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well Linen, Linen unstructured single breast jacket five thousand.

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Speaker 14: Easy, got something in wool. That's what we care about.

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Speaker 2: Very good question, Glynn. Look at see this. See this

1612
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: is what I'm wearing today. I've got a very similar

1613
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Speaker 2: one here, cashmere silk polo shirt sixteen hundred comes in

1614
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Speaker 2: four colors. Argon, Well, you'd hope it's the new Zealand dollars.

1615
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Speaker 2: If it's not getting a bit expending, isn't he mind you?

1616
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: When you're as good as Jimmy Kay, you've done well

1617
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Speaker 2: for yourself and good luck to him. Rod Little the

1618
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 2: big spending visior by miss Reeves as as produced overnight.

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01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: We'll get the detail on that from the news which

1620
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 2: is next there. News Talk said be.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show, Kiwi's Trust to stay in the No

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Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Doctor the most

1623
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Speaker 1: powerful Defender ever made and used.

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Speaker 12: Togs Head b.

1625
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: Going on Britain at the moment. The headline acturb and

1626
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 2: I has been this business from Rachel Reeves and where

1627
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 2: they're sort of heading towards the old spending. The Tories,

1628
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 2: not all the Tories see more Texas.

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01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 4: The Chancellor now expects us to believe she will that

1630
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 4: spending rise by only one point two percent a year.

1631
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 4: There is no chance whatsoever of that happening, and.

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01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: That seems to be the general consensus, which means she's

1633
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: got to spend fairly hard about where the money is

1634
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: coming from.

1635
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 3: We'll set out our policies in the autumn, but we

1636
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 3: made the tax changes that were necessary last year to

1637
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 3: fund the spending that I've set out today.

1638
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: International correspondence with Insigneye Insurance, Peace of mind for New

1639
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:41,839
Speaker 1: Zealand business.

1640
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: Indeed Roderic Little as well.

1641
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 15: That's very good morning, make good morning to you mate.

1642
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 2: So the spending review, for people who haven't followed this,

1643
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves, has been a bit of a build up

1644
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: to it, and there's been the usual reaction to it.

1645
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: So there weren't actual announcements.

1646
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 12: What was the point of it, Well, there were a bit.

1647
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 15: I mean we have the announcement before or of course

1648
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 15: she announced an extra thirty billion quid a year for

1649
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 15: the NHS twenty nine billion to thirty billion a year.

1650
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 15: Mike a year swallowed down that vast gaping more of

1651
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 15: the most inefficient health service in Europe. And so that's

1652
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 15: where we are. And also we found a few other things.

1653
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 15: You know, she's going to invest in housing. This is

1654
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 15: based upon this idea that only rapid housing growth can

1655
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 15: get us out as the economic low growth problem we're

1656
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 15: in at the moment. I don't believe it and I

1657
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 15: don't think we need it. The other problem is that

1658
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 15: she's cut back on the Foreign Office, which is at

1659
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 15: a time when we probably need a foreign office, you know.

1660
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 15: And there's also a bit more money for artificial intelligence

1661
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 15: and transport projects. But your right, to a degree, everything

1662
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:03,839
Speaker 15: that that Rachel Reeves has done since her first budget

1663
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 15: in October has been an apology for that first budget.

1664
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 15: That has been what it's been, and so what we

1665
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 15: will undoubtedly have when it comes when the cold winds

1666
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 15: of autumn blows through Britain, which up here they're already doing,

1667
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 15: by the way, then there will be tax rises, without question,

1668
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 15: there will be tax rising.

1669
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 2: It's all of those scenes to I mean, I'm looking

1670
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: at this from a great distance, of course, but everything

1671
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 2: she seems to have done credibility wise, appears to have

1672
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 2: been a problem for her, and you make the announcements

1673
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 2: today and everyone said, Tories included go, you're going to

1674
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 2: be back with text increases. Given we know how she operates,

1675
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: and when she does come back with text increases, how

1676
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: does she explain that.

1677
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 15: They brais them through it by lying and this is

1678
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 15: what they've been doing. I'm afraid you know, there are

1679
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 15: good things about the Labor government, only a few, but

1680
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 15: there are some good things. Rachel Reeves isn't one of them.

1681
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 15: The first party was disastrous. She alienated not only most

1682
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 15: of the country but also most of her own party.

1683
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 15: She's had to do an it on one hundred nat

1684
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 15: degree about turn on winter fuel payments to pensioners, but

1685
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 15: didn't even have the grace to apologize for having got

1686
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 15: it wrong in the in the first instance, she is

1687
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 15: a calamity I think for the government, her Ed Miliband

1688
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 15: and probably a ev cooper at the three front bench

1689
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 15: jobs that Sakis Dama, if he really had a grip

1690
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 15: of this party, would get rid of and get someone

1691
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 15: else in.

1692
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 2: That was my next question, because early on after that

1693
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 2: budget her credibility seemed to be a problem and her

1694
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 2: future in that job seemed to be an issue. Is

1695
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 2: it still?

1696
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 15: Yeah? I think it is. I think it is probably

1697
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 15: perhaps not quite as much as it was before the

1698
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 15: Vault fasts on the winter fuel payments, which has been

1699
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 15: welcomed by most of the party. But you do struggle

1700
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 15: to find someone in the upper echeons of labor you

1701
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 15: have anything positive to say about Rachel Reeves.

1702
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: Interesting. What's happening in Ireland? I mean, I know what started,

1703
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 2: but how come? How long does this go for?

1704
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 15: Well, this is Northern Ireland, this is this is this

1705
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 15: is Pallamina, which is a quite proppy area, Protestant area

1706
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 15: of Northern Ireland, and there have been riots for two

1707
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 15: nights running into three nights now and they're anti immigration

1708
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 15: riots and they're similar kind of in tone and in

1709
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 15: demographic I would guess to the riots we saw in

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Speaker 15: Britain last summer, which we talked about and which the

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Speaker 15: government clamped down upon and sent people to prison for ages.

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Speaker 15: The theory is that an asylum seeker or an immigrant

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Speaker 15: sexually as soul a young girl and that's why there

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01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 15: are furious protests. It started in Ballymina, thirty four police

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Speaker 15: officers injured in these fights, and then has spread to

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Speaker 15: Newton Abbey, Cold Rain and Belfast itself. So I just

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Speaker 15: get the idea, you know, Mike, that we are heading

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Speaker 15: down this route a bit. People have had enough of immigration.

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Speaker 15: The slightly feral wing of those people who we've had

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Speaker 15: enough are taken to the streets on ideas that immigration

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Speaker 15: is responsible for all manner of crimes. But I think

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Speaker 15: everyone has had enough of immigration, and I think we're

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Speaker 15: going to be saddled with this for a long time

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Speaker 15: to come.

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Speaker 2: Roderick, we'll see you next week. Appreciate it very much, right,

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Speaker 2: A little out of Britain. By the way, the Gibraltar

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Speaker 2: deliber Night alluded to earlier on the PlayGame that a

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Speaker 2: fluid border that Starmers negotiated Gibralar is of course British

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Speaker 2: until it's not, which it appears not to be sought of.

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Speaker 2: It will be now looked after with EU passport controls

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01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: at the airport for the first time. They call it historic.

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01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: It's inside the Shingen border now, so when you arrive

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Speaker 2: at the airport you'll hand your passport if you're British

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01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 2: over to a Gibraltar or a Spanish official instead of

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Speaker 2: an English one. Meantime, they're also going to do something

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Speaker 2: about the rough sleeping laws. And what I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: about the rough sleeping laws, the Vagrancy Act is what

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Speaker 2: they call it. It's illegal to be a rough sleeper

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Speaker 2: in Wales and England. It was introduced in eighteen twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Angel and Raignan now calls it cruel and outdated. So

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Speaker 2: they're going to change that. Speaking of old laws, they're

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01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: also set for a free vote next week, and we'll

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01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: took to a rot about this next week because free

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01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: vote said, you know, the old conscience vote, what we

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01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: would call the conscience vote. Abortions allegal in England and

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01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 2: Wales as well as rough sleeping often prosecuted under a

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01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 2: piece of Victorian legislation, Offenses against the Person Act of

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01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 2: eighteen sixty one. So they're going to have a free

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01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,520
Speaker 2: vote on that. So we'll follow that with interest sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Too, The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I

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01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: Have Radio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: A B thirteen to nine. The christ Itch Things Real

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01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 2: better racetracks in the South Island. Mike, is that true?

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01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's true. It's debatable. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: it's true, Mike. My daughter second year Canterbury Union University.

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Speaker 2: She's loving it already, seeing it as a place she

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01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 2: could live after university. I cannot tell you, because we've

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01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: got university kids, of course, I cannot tell you that

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01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 2: the vibe around Canterbury University is like no other. It

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01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: is the go to university at the moment in this country. Mike,

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Speaker 2: we moved from Wellington four years ago for pre retirement.

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01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: It's nice, isn't what's pre retirement?

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01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 10: Oh?

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01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 14: I want some of that.

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01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 2: It's like a bit of pre retire I.

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01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 14: Feel like I'm ready for pre retirement.

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01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: If you're in pre retirement, when you're working in pre retiring,

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01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: how do you know what's going on there.

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Speaker 14: I'm willing to give it a try, but will.

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01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 2: Whether in family reasons, not regretting it for one minute.

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Speaker 2: The South Island Rocks, Mike christ Church also has a

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01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 2: mere and film major who actually lives the make it

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01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: happen and gets things done. I'm glad you think positively

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01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 2: of the Canterbury Council. I'm not sure it went down

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01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 2: that well the other day when you were dealing with

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Speaker 2: Chris Bishop and the intensification argument you've had for the

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Speaker 2: last several years. One reason Canterbury University has the most

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01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 2: students it's ever had multi leveled student accommodations being built. Yeah,

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01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: it's expanding big time. Also very accessible christ did You

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01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,959
Speaker 2: can be in the university and you walk most places

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01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 2: and at worst you can jump on a bike and

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01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 2: go around the corner down Clyde Road, turn right, borm

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01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: you at the Hagley Park. All that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Last hundred years. Listen to this. There's always somebody In

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Speaker 2: the last one hundred years. Christ Church has experienced a

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Speaker 2: significant number of earthquakes, with most notable one being twenty

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Speaker 2: ten twenty eleven Canterbury earthquakes. Between two thousan ten two

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01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 2: thousand and eleven there were four major quakes and over

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01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: eleven thousand, two hundred after shocks. Prior to that, there

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01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: were other earthquakes in the area, including four medium sized

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Speaker 2: earthquakes between eighteen fifty and nineteen thirty. Well that's that,

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Speaker 2: isn't so?

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Speaker 8: Hang on?

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Speaker 14: Is that an argument for?

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01:23:58,840 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 8: Again?

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01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 2: Is hard to say. Wh's hard to say? South Ireland

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01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 2: raised a couple going home to Cromble At the end

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Speaker 2: of the year, friend and family went to christ Church.

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01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: They love it. Mike South Island just hired two people

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Speaker 2: who moved from the North Island for a job, just

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Speaker 2: about to hire another. So please to move back to

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01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 2: the North Ireland. Summer is only one month. Nice to visit.

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01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: I know some people who moved out of christ Church

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01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 2: recently because they literally couldn't handle the weather because it

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01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 2: is cold. But what do you do when you get cold?

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01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 2: Is you get crisp? Of course, Mike, I do not

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01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 2: tell me what you think of this. This is Alan

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Speaker 2: texting Mike. I don't begrudge farmers doing well, but to

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01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 2: the farmers who just ordered three tractors. If you missed

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01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 2: it earlier on the Trevenist that told us the bloke

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01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 2: he met at field days yesterday ordered three tractors. Does

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01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 2: he now go to the local supermarket and buy one

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Speaker 2: hundred units of butter and donate them to the food

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Speaker 2: bank or cheese or milk. I understand we pay the

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01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 2: same as overseas price, but surely Fonterra could do something

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01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 2: for the New Zealand market like what Ellan like what

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01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 2: lose money or not be profitable or not give that

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Speaker 2: money to the farmer or what exactly is it? The

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01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: people who argue this infuriate me because there's no other

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01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: way around it. As I've said about a million times.

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Speaker 2: And for all the people who text and go in

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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, the petrols chip yep. The government pays for it.

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Speaker 2: And if you want the government to pay for the butter,

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Speaker 2: and you want the government to pay for the milk

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01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 2: or anything dairy related, go advocate that with your local

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Speaker 2: government in peace sometime and see how far you get

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Speaker 2: on that, and they'll point out, probably, oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We're not Saudi Arabia, and we don't have any money,

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Speaker 2: and we're not in the business of subsidization. Prices are

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Speaker 2: what prices are, and we should be supporting, encouraging and

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01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 2: applauding people who are successful. Nine to nine.

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Speaker 1: She's a make asking for expert with a Vita Retirement,

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Speaker 1: Communities News togs dad Be.

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Speaker 2: My wife is a fan of Smartness, which is a

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01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 2: podcast that's got Jason Bateman. It's also got Will Arnett

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01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 2: and Sean Hayes. But I think she's a fan of

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01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 2: it because it's got Jason Bateman, because it appears to

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01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 2: me that whatever Jason Bateman does, she goes all goovy about. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I tried to watch it. They're all right, they're fine.

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Speaker 2: They had somebody on and I can't even remember who

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01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: it was, but they came on and it was quite

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01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 2: a good chat. And their advantage is that because they're famous,

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01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 2: they can get a lot of famous people on and

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01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 2: famous people know famous people, so the famous people just

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01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 2: sit around chat and it becomes sort of a natural

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Speaker 2: kind of conversation as opposed to all, you're a famous person, I'm.

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Speaker 14: Not curb your enthusiasm. Is that the one that they're

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01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 14: all on together? I always get those?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is the point being are they

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Speaker 2: and this is an interesting thing? So if you're famous,

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01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 2: one of the things you're into is tequila, So if

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01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: you want to invest, George Clooney does tequila and espresso.

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Speaker 2: I think less of them because of the latter, but

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01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people do tequila. And if you don't

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Speaker 2: do tequilla, you do rum. These guys Bateman, Arnette and

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01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 2: Hayes announced yesterday they're doing a telco, so they're launching

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Speaker 2: their own telephone.

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Speaker 14: That's very Ryan Reynolds because he does meant Nobile.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he also does sale GP and football, which

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01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 2: is an eclectic portfolio. But the point is a bloke

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Speaker 2: they know who's come in with them, because the first

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Speaker 2: thing you ask is do these guys know anything about telephones?

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Speaker 2: The guy who's come in from the tech sector said,

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Speaker 2: you're under wireless the whole time. People don't use data

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01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 2: anymore because you're under wireless. So you buy your thing,

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01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 2: your plan, you never use your plan. And they thought, well,

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01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 2: maybe we could make cheaper better plants than the big

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Speaker 2: guys who rely on people not knowing they're under wireless.

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Speaker 2: And so they're launching their own SmartLess mobile. So we'll

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Speaker 2: monitor that with interest and wish them all the very

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01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 2: best with it. So they've got a podcast, a TV show,

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Speaker 2: and a mobile offering. It's quite cool five minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: Nine Trending now with the Chemist Warehouse, the Real House

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Speaker 1: of Vitamins.

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Speaker 12: Your song's broken, just forgot to charge it.

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01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 11: I'll but you wearing God.

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Speaker 10: I love it.

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01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: Siren, you just say you're first and started. This is

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Speaker 2: Sabrina Kapender. So her new song is this is a

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01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 2: couple of days old. It's top five everywhere, and when

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Speaker 2: I say everywhere, I mean on SmartLess mobile, on Spotify, Billboard,

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01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 2: Apple Streams. It's it's everywhere I know Taita gave it

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01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: the break she was not being at for Tata. You

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01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 2: reckon Tata. One quick question, is Taita one married secretly

1885
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: and or too pregnant? I reckon that's the buzz. I

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01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,839
Speaker 2: picked that up on the chat room of SmartLess Mobile.

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Speaker 2: This is projected to be top of the billboard one

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Speaker 2: hundred by the end of the week, which apparently, if

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Speaker 2: you're top of the billboard one hundred by the end

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Speaker 2: of the week, that's that's where it's at, then you're it.

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Speaker 14: It's called manchild, by the way, in case.

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Speaker 2: That I thought I thought it, Oh well, I must

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01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: have been building up to that. But I must have been.

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01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: This was going to crescendo with the I just can't.

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Speaker 14: I think it will make it easier for people to

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01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 14: find if they know what it's called.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 2: I was several steps ahead of you, the Glenn. I

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01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 2: don't think people are going to find this. I think,

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Speaker 2: having heard Aprove, it's it's like I've forgotten it already.

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01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm not like Taylor Swift very much. So I have

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01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,799
Speaker 2: discovered two great songs in the past week from people

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01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 2: I knew of but had never really listened to before,

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01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 2: and I discovered them last weekend, and I all I've

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01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 2: done all weeks listened to the two songs Coming to

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01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 2: work and going home from work. Two songs over and

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01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 2: over and over again. I'll tell you what they are tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: sometime between six and nine. Happy Days.

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