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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected us.

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Speaker 2: Tog said, b.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,

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Speaker 3: we're going to speak to employment expert Mike Max Whitehead

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Speaker 3: on what he makes of people earning above one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty thousand dollars a year losing the right to

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Speaker 3: claim unjustified dismissal. Eden Park's got the twelve concerts that

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Speaker 3: they wanted a year. We'll speak to the CEO and

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Speaker 3: we'll get you across the cracket and we'll keep you

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Speaker 3: across the cricket as well.

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Speaker 2: For Heather Duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: The mono annui, he'll have seen what happened there by

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Speaker 3: now A was autopilot again, that's why it ran. The

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Speaker 3: ground crew didn't take it off autopilot. In fact, the

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Speaker 3: crew didn't even realize it was all autopilot. So let

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Speaker 3: me run you through the details of what happened that night.

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Speaker 3: That night, about quarter past six, while they were out

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Speaker 3: surveying the reef and sar War, the crew decided that

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Speaker 3: they needed to turn to starboard and it seemed to

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Speaker 3: have worked, and then they decided they also needed to

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Speaker 3: change course again. But that is when the ship stopped responding.

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Speaker 3: They tried to turn, the ship wouldn't turn. They tried

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Speaker 3: to break, the ship wouldn't break. And instead what happened

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Speaker 3: is that the ship started to actually accelerate towards the reef,

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Speaker 3: and a couple of minutes later it grounded at a

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Speaker 3: and then it finally became stranded. That basically, like if

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Speaker 3: you're in a car and you mount the curb, you go, oh, no,

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Speaker 3: hod on, I need to stop. But then instead what

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Speaker 3: happens is you put your foot on the accelerator and

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Speaker 3: you start accelerating, you mount the curb, and then not

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Speaker 3: only do you mount the curb, and you start mounting

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Speaker 3: the steps as well, and then you just hit You

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Speaker 3: hit the bollard and you land there. That's basically what

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Speaker 3: happened to the ship. It then took them another ten

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Speaker 3: minutes to figure out that they needed to turn the

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Speaker 3: autopilot off. Now I can't really explain to you how

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Speaker 3: to realize that the ship is an autopilot is look

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Speaker 3: at the screen that's says autopilot. That's how you figure

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Speaker 3: it out. Now, I feel like you can understand how

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Speaker 3: stupid it is just by looking at Judith Collins face today,

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Speaker 3: because that was not a face that was finding anything

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Speaker 3: funny at all. Day She looked stern as like this

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Speaker 3: was one of the suckiest days of her life. I

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Speaker 3: think I could actually hear her breathing in the microphone,

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Speaker 3: digest what she was actually having to talk about today

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Speaker 3: in front of the country. Absolute exasperation. Now there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of concern about what this is going to do

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Speaker 3: to our global reputation. I don't know. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 3: not too worried about that because I feel like, if

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Speaker 3: you've already ground one ship in a year because of

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Speaker 3: autopilot and then pulled out all the nuts in a pylon,

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Speaker 3: what's another ship matter? Like, our reputation has already taken

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Speaker 3: enough of hammering probably from here on, and it's what's expected.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to give some credit here because I harp

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Speaker 3: on and you will have heard me doing it yesterday

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Speaker 3: at water Care. I harp on at authorities about the

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Speaker 3: need to come clean on stuff as soon as they

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Speaker 3: know that stuff has happened and fess up. So as

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Speaker 3: far as I can see when it comes to ships

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Speaker 3: and autopilot incidents this year, these eyes actually did a

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Speaker 3: good job. So credit to Judith in the Navy because

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Speaker 3: eight weeks to be straight up with us about how

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Speaker 3: dumb things were that night. Key we railed by contrast,

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Speaker 3: and this is read the utter Teeddy, which we also

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Speaker 3: ran aground, refused to tell us for eighteen weeks. We

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Speaker 3: So eight verses eighteen, I feel like Judith and the

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Speaker 3: credit where credits due for telling us what happened. But boy,

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Speaker 3: someone needs to go back to training wheels.

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Speaker 2: Don't they ever do for Cellen nine.

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Speaker 3: Who is the next text number? And the standard text

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Speaker 3: fee is a play. We're going to work a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a chat about this after five o'clock of

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Speaker 3: the maritime lawyer who's all across this kind of details.

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Speaker 3: He's dealing with a lot of this at the moment. Actually,

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Speaker 3: now over to Australia, it's finally law. Under sixteen year

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Speaker 3: olds are going to be banned from social media. This

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Speaker 3: they have a year. This is the social media companies

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Speaker 3: to figure out how to implement this now. Tama lev

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Speaker 3: is a professor of Internet studies at Curtain University in Perth.

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Speaker 3: Tama Hello, Hello, how are we actually going to verify ages?

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Speaker 4: That's a really good question. One of the challenges with

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Speaker 4: are supposed to do that. We've got an age assurance

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Speaker 4: trial sometime in the middle of next year. But the

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Speaker 4: government issued identification. We've added an amendment so that platforms

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Speaker 4: aren't allowed to ask for that because there were privacy concerns.

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Speaker 4: So we know that platforms are going to bear the

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Speaker 4: brunt of trying to do this, and that may well

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Speaker 4: be a good thing, but the exact technicality of how

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Speaker 3: What is the relevance of this age assurance trial?

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Speaker 4: So the age assurance trial, which was originally going to

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Speaker 4: happen first, was to test out all of those tools

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Speaker 4: that claim to be able to figure out your age

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Speaker 4: without you entering it yourself, so maybe facial recognition or

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Speaker 4: other biometrics, or looking at the history of how you

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Speaker 4: use a platform or something else as sort of an.

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Speaker 2: Educated guess if you like, about your age.

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Speaker 4: We know that those tools have been fairly immature, that

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Speaker 4: they've been fairly high error rates, and that they've worked

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Speaker 4: much better on whitefaces than any other sort of face,

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Speaker 4: so that there are some real issues there that we've

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Speaker 4: known about. It would have been lovely to do that

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Speaker 4: trial first and figure out if those tools have improved

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Speaker 4: or not. But as it is, we've got a year

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think that the social media do you

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Speaker 4: I honestly, I'm not quite sure. I think there will

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Speaker 4: a real effort. I mean, there are significant penalties forgetting

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Speaker 4: this wrong, but I also think there might be a

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Speaker 4: legal challenge from the platform saying you've asked is to

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Speaker 4: do something nobody's ever been able to do well. It's

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Speaker 4: not really our fault that we can't. So that there

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Speaker 4: are lots of questions still in the air, and a

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Speaker 5: There's also a federal election.

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Speaker 4: In the middle of that year, so it'll depend on

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Speaker 4: who's driving the ship as well when it gets to

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Speaker 4: the point of actually having to implement it.

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Speaker 3: Tama, why doesn't the government provide the age assurance itself?

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Speaker 3: Because I mean, there must be a way to issue

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Speaker 3: a token or something. It already has the details of

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Speaker 3: these kids, or can have the details of these kids,

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Speaker 3: and can be trusted to keep it safe. Because everybody's

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Speaker 3: government keeps our details safe, right with our driver's license

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Speaker 3: companies yes, tama is over eighteen or sixteen or whatever.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, I think Australia has a long history

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Speaker 4: and then did the last few governments have had a

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Speaker 4: pretty bad track record with looking after personal information. They've

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Speaker 4: been hacked through all sorts of different departments. So I

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Speaker 4: don't think that trust relationship, if you like, exists with

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Speaker 4: most citizens. So it's a tricky one. It's technically quite

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Speaker 4: hard to do any other way. But if people don't

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Speaker 4: want to share government issued ID, and of course most

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Speaker 4: kids under sixteen don't have government issued ID in many respects,

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Speaker 4: so there's a lot of additional hurdles there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, wouldn't you though, if you were if

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Speaker 3: you if it was put to you, wouldn't you trust

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Speaker 2: Look, that's a really good question.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that Facebook can see I've had an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean I was wondering why you were

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Speaker 3: so so in two minds about it. I mean, but

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Speaker 3: do you trust Zuckerberg to have your driver's license on file?

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Speaker 4: I don't trust Zuckerberg to have anything of mine on file.

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Speaker 4: But I do think that other ways of doing it

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Speaker 4: course we're not verifying kids' identities. We're verifying everyone's identities.

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Speaker 4: Adults have to prove they're not kids. It's not just

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Speaker 3: Listen, Tama, thanks for running us through to really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: T'm a leaver professor of Internet Studies at Curtain University

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Speaker 3: and personally to see how this plays out. If they

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Speaker 3: do it, and they do it well, then we'll have

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Speaker 3: to do it too. Listen's got some good news for

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Speaker 3: the women on the HRT patches. This is the hormone

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Speaker 3: hormone replacement therapy patches. If you're one of the women

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Speaker 3: and you're really upset that FARMAC decided to pull your

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Speaker 3: favorite patches and the best patches, apparently an issue you

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Speaker 3: original one. It sounds like it's still going to be

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Speaker 3: So good luck to you for MAC. But anyway, it

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Speaker 3: sounds like it's going to be a pain because women

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Speaker 3: are going to have to apply for it and so on,

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Speaker 3: and they actually quite obviously have no idea how this

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Speaker 3: is going to work, because they say they're still working

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Speaker 3: out the details and they'll share the information once it's confirmed.

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Speaker 3: But at least Seymour stepped in and saved the ladies

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Speaker 3: a little bit of hassle. Coming up seventeen past four,

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Speaker 1: Take the White House results and analysis of the US

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Speaker 1: election on Heather Dupless Alan Drive with one New Zealand Let's.

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Speaker 2: Get connected the news talk said be.

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Speaker 1: A sport with the new tab app downloaded today RI

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Speaker 3: Elliot Smith Weekend Sports Hosters with US. Elliott, welcome back.

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: to get in and force Selen Zelenski to give up

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Speaker 3: land for peace. But actually a counter narrative has started

437
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Speaker 3: to emerge, which is possibly what Trump is going to

438
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Speaker 3: do is just armed Zelensky to the teeth and let

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Speaker 3: him rain hell down on Putin.

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Speaker 10: Well, yeah, and I think that's why we may be

441
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Speaker 10: hearing some of these nice comments from Vladimir Putin as

442
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Speaker 10: well too, you know, because Trump has said, you know,

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Speaker 10: we're going to secure peace through strength, So take.

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Speaker 5: That as you will.

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Speaker 10: And I mean this is also just a big sort

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Speaker 10: of turnaround from what the Kremlin's been saying over the

447
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Speaker 10: last few weeks last couple of months actually against Biden

448
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Speaker 10: the whole administration, because he's been accusing the US and

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Speaker 10: Joe Biden specifically of escalating this war with the Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: Dan, why is it that we are now all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden thinking gen z as might be the loneliest

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Speaker 3: generation just.

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Speaker 10: Because they're spending so much time on social media. They're

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Speaker 10: spending six hours or more a day, and I mean,

455
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Speaker 10: this is you know, this is loneliness is an emotion,

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Speaker 10: as psychologists are saying right now, and they've come out

457
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Speaker 10: with a study and they're saying, at some point we're

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Speaker 10: all going to be lonely in our lives, and especially

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Speaker 10: since the pandemic. The problem is gen z is feeling

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Speaker 10: lonely all the time and they feel like this loneliness

461
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Speaker 10: is never going to go away. And this is ironic,

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Speaker 10: I guess you could say, because they're finding new ways

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Speaker 10: every day to connect without connecting, aren't they? I mean

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Speaker 10: seventy three percent of these kids say I said, kids

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Speaker 10: twenty something years old say they fill alone and disconnected,

466
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Speaker 10: but they're not willing to go out and make that

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Speaker 10: human interaction.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: You talk to my daughter and she says I've got friends. Okay.

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Speaker 5: Are you going to talk to your friends?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I don't talk to them. Have you seen them?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 5: I text with them. And that's what this generation's doing

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Speaker 5: with them, and they call them friends.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So does your daughter go out and have a party.

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Speaker 3: Does she drink?

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Speaker 5: Does she?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 3: Look up with no payper no nothing.

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Speaker 13: No no.

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Speaker 5: Same with my son.

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Speaker 10: They're twins, they're both they're both eighteen, and most of

485
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Speaker 10: their friendships and their school friends and college friends are

486
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Speaker 10: are the same. I mean, they'll interact with each other

487
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Speaker 10: in the classrooms, but outside of the classroom, most of

488
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Speaker 10: them are on their phone texting with one another.

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Speaker 3: And that's why they live with you.

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Speaker 5: One of them does. The other one is away on

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Speaker 5: living on campus.

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Speaker 3: Okay. And the one that lives with you, do they

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Speaker 3: go out at the weekend or do they hang about

494
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Speaker 3: at home?

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Speaker 6: No?

496
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Speaker 10: Total introvert, just totally gaming, doing homework online. That doesn't

497
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Speaker 10: really socialize with anybody, even though he was an abandoned

498
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Speaker 10: school and stuff.

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Speaker 9: I know.

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Speaker 3: Does that worry you?

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Speaker 2: It does?

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Speaker 6: It does?

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Speaker 10: Because I find that when this generation goes out and

504
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Speaker 10: they have to interact with people in the office or

505
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Speaker 10: they have to do that first big interview when they

506
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Speaker 10: graduate from university. It's like, well, how are you going

507
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Speaker 10: to get these social skills if you're not around real people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally. I'd be worried about it too, Dan, Listen,

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Speaker 3: tell me quickly. This California man witnessing for twenty five

510
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Speaker 3: years and then his sister sees his picture in the

511
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Speaker 3: news and finds them. How does she recognize him?

512
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Speaker 10: Though, Well, it just vanished. It was just happened to

513
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Speaker 10: see a picture of him online in an article and said, well,

514
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Speaker 10: wait a minute, this homeless guy looks very familiar. So

515
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Speaker 10: contacted police. Police reached out for help with the Sheriff's

516
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Speaker 10: apartment with a missing person's unit. They were able to

517
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Speaker 10: fingerprint this guy who had been hospitalized, and they were

518
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Speaker 10: able to positively identify him as the same person who

519
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Speaker 10: went missing in ninety nine. Who he was, Yeah, he

520
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Speaker 10: had just forgotten who he was and was just.

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Speaker 5: Down on the streets.

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Speaker 10: So I mean, it's a I guess you could call

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Speaker 10: it over here at least a nice Thanksgiving or a

524
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Speaker 10: nice holiday miracle.

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Speaker 5: However you look at it.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's remarkable. Hey, Dan, thanks very much, appreciate it. Dan, Mitchinson,

527
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Speaker 3: US correspondent. What Dan just told you there about one

528
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Speaker 3: of the children living with him is exactly what I

529
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Speaker 3: was trying to tell you. Recently, Remember, we were talking

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Speaker 3: about how the kids, I think it was last week.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about how kids don't drink that much. They

532
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Speaker 3: don't get lit on alcohol, they don't go out get pregnant,

533
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Speaker 3: they don't get into car crashes and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: That's all awesome, I mean, none of us want kids

535
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Speaker 3: been drinking and having teenage pregnancies and crashing and stuff.

536
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Speaker 3: But we also have to be careful about why we're

537
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Speaker 3: getting to that place, and a lot of it is

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Speaker 3: because of what's going on with Dan's child, which is

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Speaker 3: that the kids just stay at home. They don't have

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Speaker 3: any of the experiences that we have have that we

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Speaker 3: had as young people. And even though I'm stoked that

542
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Speaker 3: they're not in the car crash, and I'm stoked they're

543
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Speaker 3: not getting pregnant, and I'm stoked they're not drinking too much,

544
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Speaker 3: the loneliness is also something that we should be very

545
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Speaker 3: worried about so quite and this is why Australia's passed

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Speaker 3: that social media ban, and I applaud them for at

547
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Speaker 3: least giving it a go, because you don't want the

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Speaker 3: kids sitting at home on a Friday night when they're

549
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Speaker 3: twenty years old and going I'm gonna play my games.

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Speaker 3: That's not healthy. By the way, Drake has just announced

551
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Speaker 3: he's coming back to New Zealand to play two shows

552
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Speaker 3: next year. Drake has not been here for eight years.

553
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Speaker 3: Have you got some, Drake? Answer that the boomers know

554
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Speaker 3: what we're talking about?

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Speaker 7: Oh Drake, that's safe for the radios.

556
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Speaker 8: Tricky, I'll find some.

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Speaker 3: You just have to play the little bit of the

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Speaker 3: store at the start of that song. Everybody knows that song. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: hotline bling that. Yeah, everybody knows what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 14: Andy.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to say the words out loud. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: and maybe I do. But you know you're used to

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Speaker 3: call me I mun us.

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Speaker 2: Do used to?

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Speaker 15: You used to?

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Speaker 8: It takes a while to get into it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, you used to.

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Speaker 2: Got me on myself.

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Speaker 3: You can go a Spark Arena late February early March

570
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Speaker 3: and go and see Drake for yourself.

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Speaker 7: How good is that?

572
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Speaker 3: Thank you? Ants quarter to Barry Sourpers.

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Speaker 2: Next Lonely.

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Speaker 3: Your political correspondence with us now, Hay Barry, Good.

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Speaker 16: Afternoon, Heather. I'm really pleased that Drake's coming. I'll be

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Speaker 16: in the mosh pit right at.

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Speaker 3: The front doing your primal scream about Trump.

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Speaker 16: He's American, isn't he?

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Speaker 3: He's American?

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Speaker 16: Hey? What he likes Trump is?

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Speaker 3: What did you make of the money when we're going down?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Absolutely incredible, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: He's Canadian. I'm sorry, he's Canadian. Sorry, sorry, he's a

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Speaker 3: nice carry on with the boat.

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Speaker 16: What I admired was the chief of the Navy, Rear

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Speaker 16: Admiral Garen Golding, getting up and telling it like it is,

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Speaker 16: is not trying to guild the lily. And I really

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Speaker 16: I thought, you know, he'll get a lot of brownie

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Speaker 16: points for that, even though I mean, it's unbelievable how

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Speaker 16: it happened. The thinking just gets worse the more you

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Speaker 16: hear about it. Here's the rare Admiral golden earlier today.

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Speaker 17: All vessels in our fleet have a similar functionality for

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Speaker 17: an autopilot. So if you are doing directional changes and

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Speaker 17: manually when the ship is an autopilot, it won't adjust.

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Speaker 17: But if you're doing accelerational deceleration. An autopilot, it will

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Speaker 17: take those orders and it's just a matter of making

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Speaker 17: sure that those out in the fleet understand the importance

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Speaker 17: of being aware whether you're an autopilot or not. But

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Speaker 17: on the day, muscle memory from the person in control

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Speaker 17: should have lent over to that panel and checked whe

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Speaker 17: there's a person it's on who's in control of the ship.

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Speaker 17: I'm not naming that person. I'm saying that the person

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Speaker 17: that was in that position was in control of a ship.

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Speaker 17: He was another person because of the location being close

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Speaker 17: to the reef, was supervising that individual.

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Speaker 16: It doesn't sound as though the captain was on the

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Speaker 16: bridge at the time. You'll remember Judith Collins, I know

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Speaker 16: you're going to be talking to her shortly. She was

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Speaker 16: full of praise of the ship's captain, Yvonne Gray. Today

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Speaker 16: she was a little more conciliatory.

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Speaker 18: We've had this sort of thing happen in the civilian

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Speaker 18: world with fairies, which had one just recently about the

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Speaker 18: same day, with the auto pilots and people not working

616
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Speaker 18: out what to do. I think what it says is

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Speaker 18: that we are not a country that is going to

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Speaker 18: shy away from the truth. Human error is the one

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Speaker 18: thing you can't guarantee against, but it's certainly one thing

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Speaker 18: we can all learn from.

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Speaker 16: Did we need reminding about the fairy going aground?

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Speaker 3: He's got a problem with auto Partiday? Hey do so

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Speaker 3: mis boja here on Tuesday?

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Speaker 16: Yes, he's having a long lunch here in Auckland on Tuesday. Essentially,

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Speaker 16: he's here to promote his book Unleashed. And I talked

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Speaker 16: to one of his former teachers and he and they say,

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Speaker 16: they said to me, he's never changed. He's always been scruffy,

628
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Speaker 16: always late for meetings. And watching him being interviewed today,

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Speaker 16: it certainly was the case. But the teacher also said

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Speaker 16: he was one of the brightest students that he had

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Speaker 16: ever taught. In an interview before leaving Britain, Borrows spoke

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Speaker 16: warmly of our Foreign Minister Winston Peters and likes the

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Speaker 16: fact that Donald Trump has been returned to the White House.

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Speaker 19: I'm sure Winston will have spotted this is the point

635
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Speaker 19: that it's not what he says, is what he does

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Speaker 19: when you look at what he actually does from the

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Speaker 19: point of view of liberal internationalism, you know, which I

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Speaker 19: basically have to believe in he's very very sunned, and

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Speaker 19: he was much tougher you could say, with the Russians

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Speaker 19: over Ukraine than the previous Democrat administration.

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Speaker 16: And see Putin was in full praise of Trump today,

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Speaker 16: So it'll be interesting to see what sort of dialogue

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Speaker 16: will take place when he takes over the office in January.

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Speaker 3: Listen really quickly, Why what's brought on this business with

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Speaker 3: Brook van Valden deciding that wealthy workers should be able

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Speaker 3: to be fired without good reason?

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Speaker 16: Essentially, well, essentially from what I understand, it's because the

648
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Speaker 16: employment court is being basically flooded at the moment and

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Speaker 16: they're trying to free up that. But the point that

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Speaker 16: the Prime Minister made, and the stand up that he

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Speaker 16: did in the South Island today was that if somebody

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Speaker 16: on one hundred and eighty thousand, I'm sure they would

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Speaker 16: have negotiated a contract at that sort of money with

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Speaker 16: their employers so they can put into their contract stuff

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Speaker 16: that has to be abided by. So it's not just

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Speaker 16: a case of somebody on one hundred and eighty grand

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Speaker 16: being shown the door without good reason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Barry, thanks very much, really appreciate it. Barry's so

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Speaker 3: for senior political correspondent. By the way, we've just taken

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Speaker 3: a wicket in the cricket so Olipope is out for

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Speaker 3: seventy seven. Was bold by Tim Sowvey Court in quite

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Speaker 3: a stunning flying catch actually by Phillips. And at the

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Speaker 3: moment it looks like England is still trailing us by

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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty six runs. It's eight away from five,

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Speaker 3: putting the.

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Speaker 2: Tough question to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 20: So the government did release the COVID report, despite any

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Speaker 20: number of indications they were not going to. Still it

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Speaker 20: make a job of difference next time around. Former Treasury Secretary,

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Speaker 20: National Health Board member in New Zealand Initiative senior fellow

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Speaker 20: these days, doctor Murray horns with us if this was it,

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Speaker 20: in other words, we weren't doing Phase two. Is it

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Speaker 20: comprehensive enough?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 18: My view of it is quite a generous assessment of

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Speaker 18: what went on, and I think this is a couple

677
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Speaker 18: of really big points.

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Speaker 15: The first point I would make is that it doesn't

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Speaker 15: really pick up the fact that the damage done to

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Speaker 15: the economy and took people's trust in government and so

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Speaker 15: on and so on was more serious than it needed.

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Speaker 20: To be back Monday from six am, the mic asking

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Speaker 20: Breakfast with the Rain drove at the last news talk.

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Speaker 3: ZB five away from five. Something very cool has happened today,

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Speaker 3: which is that the banks have launched Confirmation of Pay. Now.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I owe the banks a lot of

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Speaker 3: praise for this because I've been happening on at the

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Speaker 3: banks about the need to do this. This basically stops

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Speaker 3: will stop a lot of scams from happening, and I'll

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Speaker 3: explain that you later on in the program. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to the guys who actually designed the system

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Speaker 3: after six o'clock about that. I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: realize this, but yesterday Russian Revendra when he was batting,

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Speaker 3: actually nicked the ball and the English wi could keeper

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Speaker 3: caught it and didn't realize that Russian Revendra had nicked

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Speaker 3: the ball, and so they didn't appeal for the wickeed

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Speaker 3: and they actually would have had the wicket if that

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Speaker 3: appealed for it. And it just kind of feels like

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Speaker 3: in England. It feels like England is like nah, kind

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Speaker 3: of a bit, but they've turned up. But there was

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Speaker 3: a kind of like they turned up, you know, because

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Speaker 3: they're also bowling at a really slow pace. So we'll

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Speaker 3: talk to the sports huddle about it when they're with us, Heather,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if the captain was a DEI higher

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Speaker 3: or not. She sunk the boat or will she be

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Speaker 3: caught martialed as a man is the question mark. I

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Speaker 3: would imagine she's going to take her punishment as a man.

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Speaker 3: There is no evidence. I asked you to pony up

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Speaker 3: if you had any evidence that she was hired simply

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Speaker 3: because she was a woman, and there is none. So

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Speaker 3: we're just gonna let that one drop. Now we're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to Judith Collins about it shortly. Just a

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Speaker 3: heads up, if you're taking the kids to see the

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Speaker 3: Wicked movie, you should probably be aware that there's a

715
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Speaker 3: little bit of concern about some of the content of

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Speaker 3: the film. Okay, this is your PSA. The British Board

717
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Speaker 3: of Film Classification has given the musical a PG certificate

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Speaker 3: and warned parents it could be potentially upsetting because in

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Speaker 3: the film a woman is mocked, bullied and humiliated because

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Speaker 3: of her skin color because she's green, and they're worried

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Speaker 3: this is going to be particularly upsetting to kids who

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Speaker 3: also have green skin, So just the heads up if

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Speaker 3: your children have green skin to be worried just because

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Speaker 3: they might get triggered by the bullying. And there's another

725
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Speaker 3: warning as well, because in the film, the magical creatures

726
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Speaker 3: who can talk her are persecuted and they're very worried

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Speaker 3: that seeing beloved creatures being mistreated, especially when al Faber's

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Speaker 3: skin color is used to demonize her as the Wicked,

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Speaker 3: which may be upsetting and poignant for some audiences. So

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Speaker 3: if you feel particularly strong about your talking animals or

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Speaker 3: about green Skin, just a little heads up that maybe

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Speaker 3: Wicked's not the movie for you. Yeah, You're welcome News

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Speaker 3: Talks that.

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Speaker 1: Be the only drive show you can trust to ask

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Speaker 1: the questions, get the answers by the facts and give

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Speaker 1: the analysis Heather due to thee Alan drive with one

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Speaker 1: New Zealand, let's get connected.

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Speaker 2: And you talk as they'd be.

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Speaker 16: All right.

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Speaker 3: So it's been revealed that the mono were New We

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Speaker 3: grounded and sunk off the coast of sal War because

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Speaker 3: no one realized that the ship was on autopilot. The

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Speaker 3: crew had apparently tried to turn the ship but it

744
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Speaker 3: wouldn't turn. They tried to get it to break, but

745
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Speaker 3: it wouldn't break. Instead, it sped up and grounded, and

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Speaker 3: the autopilot stayed on for at least another ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: Here's the Chief of Navy, Rear, Admiral Garren Golding.

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Speaker 17: Remaining an autopilot resulted in the ship maintaining a course

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Speaker 17: of three four zero degrees towards land until grounding and

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Speaker 17: eventually stranding.

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Speaker 3: The Ministry of Defense is Judith Collins. Hi, Judith, I

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Speaker 3: have it, Heather, Judith. It seems staggeringly stupid, is it?

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Speaker 15: Well, it certainly is something that many of us would

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Speaker 15: feel was incomprehensible, except that we also know that sometimes,

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Speaker 15: even with the best will in the world, people make mistakes,

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Speaker 15: and then someone else makes a mistake and it becomes

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Speaker 15: in this case, lost ship and people's lives being unnecessurely

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Speaker 15: put at risk.

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Speaker 3: What's the mistake, Well.

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Speaker 15: There's a whole series of mistakes, particularly around autopilots and

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Speaker 15: wanting forgetting or not noticing that the autopilot was on,

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Speaker 15: then continuing to act and to take actions that you

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Speaker 15: would do with it's called thrusters, which is to get

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Speaker 15: away from the reef, but actually don't work if the

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Speaker 15: autopilot's on and just the most basic things not being done,

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Speaker 15: and it's obviously a very serious situation. I'd say this,

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Speaker 15: at least, you know, navy shunts up that gets the

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Speaker 15: facts and it and it owns them.

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Speaker 3: From my understanding from listening to that press conference today,

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Speaker 3: all they had to do was look on the screen

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Speaker 3: that would have said autopilot on.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty much how many people were on the

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Speaker 3: bridge at the time.

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Speaker 15: Well, there's obviously a few there, but the main people

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Speaker 15: there was the person who was in charge of that

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Speaker 15: ship and the words the person who was driving it.

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Speaker 15: Then there's the supervisor of that person, and those people

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Speaker 15: are obviously subject to some investigation. Plus also the commander

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Speaker 15: of the ship, who wasn't there at that moment.

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Speaker 3: So there's at least three people are who are in charge,

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Speaker 3: or at least two because the commander wasn't there and

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Speaker 3: neither of them thought to look at the screen.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, Okay, it's incomprehensible, isn't it, except that we know

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Speaker 15: that this is the same sort of thing that happened

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Speaker 15: recently with the.

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Speaker 3: And the cook straight So well, at least they d

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Speaker 3: to be fair, had the excuse of a whole new system.

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Speaker 3: That they didn't understand is can we use the same

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Speaker 3: excuse for the navy?

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Speaker 15: There's no Well, there's no excuse, is there. And the

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Speaker 15: fact is that it's embarrassing for everybody. But as always saying,

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Speaker 15: at the moment, these things, terrible things do happen, but

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Speaker 15: it's how you handle them that's really important. Then the

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Speaker 15: Navy is doing that.

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Speaker 3: The commander, that's the lady. That's the lady who was

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Speaker 3: in charge of.

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Speaker 15: The ship here, that's the commanding officer.

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Speaker 3: She's copped a lot of grief. But are you telling

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Speaker 3: me she wasn't actually on the bridge? This has got

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Speaker 3: nothing to do with her.

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Speaker 15: Well, you can't say it's nothing to do with her

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Speaker 15: because she's the commander. But what I can say is

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Speaker 15: that it's certainly not a gender issue here. I can

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Speaker 15: say that there were three people who are the subject

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Speaker 15: to investigation to a male and one is female.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but she wasn't on the bridge, was she?

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Speaker 15: No, she wasn't at that moment.

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Speaker 3: These three people who are under investigation subjects or disciplinary process.

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Speaker 3: Is the possible outcome that they will lose their jobs

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Speaker 3: over this?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, So these are called communit separatist process. It's outside

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Speaker 15: the cord of inquiry. It will occur after that cord

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Speaker 15: of inquiry is completely finished. But the point of that

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Speaker 15: is it's dealt with in a really serious way and

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Speaker 15: it would be very unusual, although I don't want to

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Speaker 15: go around prejudging or anything, very unusual if there weren't

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Speaker 15: courts martial over this matter.

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Speaker 3: All right, judor, thank you for your time. Appreciated this

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Speaker 3: dud of Collins.

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Speaker 2: The Minister of Defense Heather duel So.

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Speaker 3: The governments announced plans to stop wealthy workers from raising

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Speaker 3: an unjustified dismissal claim if they lose their jobs. It

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Speaker 3: will apply to workers who are earning one hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty thousand dollars or more. And Max Whitehead is an

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Speaker 3: employment law expert in with us. Now, Hey Max, Hey, healler,

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Speaker 3: you like the sound of this?

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Speaker 11: No, well, I just think it's a little bit Well,

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Speaker 11: who would want to be a senior manager right now?

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Speaker 11: And who'd want to be in charge of a ship?

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Speaker 11: Because really you're likely to cop one only through this thing,

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Speaker 11: going to lose all your protection as an employee. And

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Speaker 11: the next thing is that you could be sued under

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Speaker 11: the Health and Safety of Work Act. And just like

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Speaker 11: the ports of Auckland.

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Speaker 5: Guy.

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Speaker 11: So I mean, really, it's a tough world out there

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Speaker 11: if you are any if you're a big timer in

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Speaker 11: a business right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough? I mean okay, so you have this

841
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Speaker 3: right to taken away from you, wouldn't you just write

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Speaker 3: it into your contract?

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Speaker 11: Well, you'd have to negotiate it back in because most

844
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Speaker 11: employers would say, oh, gotcha. If you want to get

845
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Speaker 11: this back into your contract, well how about taking a

846
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Speaker 11: thirty thousand dollars pay cut or something like that, they

847
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Speaker 11: would probably be seeking to negotiate a lower salary option

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Speaker 11: for them.

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Speaker 3: So what do you make of the argument that the

850
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Speaker 3: reason that the government has to do this is to

851
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Speaker 3: basically make it easier for bosses to be able to

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Speaker 3: get rid of useless middle managers.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think it shouldn't be only sitting at the

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Speaker 11: top that option to do that, I think is one

855
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Speaker 11: of Brook van Belden's colleagues put up a bill for this.

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Speaker 11: It's saying that the employers should be entitled to negotiate

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Speaker 11: with an employee and saying, look, I I'd like to

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Speaker 11: buy your exit so you're finishing up with us, Can

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Speaker 11: I do that? And then they sit down and have

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Speaker 11: a chin wag about it. Now, if in the last

861
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Speaker 11: interview you've just done somebody's been grossly negligent or perhaps

862
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Speaker 11: just incompetent, well then of course they have grounds to

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Speaker 11: dismiss and the law would enable that to go through

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Speaker 11: a process. And can the people protect themselves from that, well,

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Speaker 11: so they should in my view. I mean, murderers get

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Speaker 11: the right to defend themselves and surely somebody in this

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Speaker 11: situation could be as well.

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Speaker 3: Max appreciate it, Max Whitehead employment laws.

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Speaker 2: But Heather duper see Allen.

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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister has basically shot down the White Tongy

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Speaker 3: Tribunal today pretty much immediately. Now if you haven't caught

872
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Speaker 3: up on this, what's happened is the White Tongy Tribunals

873
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Speaker 3: made another ruling that doesn't favor the government. Shock said

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Speaker 3: the government was wrong to kill off the Mary Health Authority,

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Speaker 3: which you remember was one of the first things government did,

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Speaker 3: and decided that that was the wrong thing to do

877
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: because the government hadn't consulted Mary and so should basically

878
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: put it back make another one. Luxon has been asked

879
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: about it said pretty much words to the effect of

880
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 3: not going to happen because actually they did consult because

881
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: it was national party policy. It wasn't hidden deep in

882
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: the manifesto, right out there in the press releases, they

883
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: were talking about it. Everybody knew it was their policy,

884
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: and they still won the election. And that is the

885
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 3: ultimate consultation. And as he says, it had been available

886
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: for fifteen months from memory, pretty unsuccessful, not delivering outcomes.

887
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: Fourteen past five. Hey, the AA Driven Car of the

888
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: Year award has just been announced and no surprise, it's

889
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: gone to the BYD Sea Lion Sex. If you have listened,

890
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: if you have been living under a rock, let me

891
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: tell you the Sea Lion Sex is BYD's best selling model.

892
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: In October this year alone, BYD sold fifty one, six

893
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen Sea Lion Sexes and the total sales

894
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: now exceed one point two million. Now that makes it

895
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: the second best selling electrified vehicle on the planet. And

896
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: it's only going to improve because being a connected car

897
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 3: you get a lifetime of updates like fine tuning, even

898
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 3: new features, and BYD are fully committed to the New

899
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 3: Zealand market, so you can expect to see a whole

900
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: lot more of them here right The Sea Lion six

901
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: is just one of four Sea Line models that they're

902
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: intending to launch over the next twelve months, So keep

903
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: your eyes peeled for the Sea Lion five, seven, and

904
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: nine as well, and obviously huge congratulations to BYD and

905
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: their Sea Lion six. It really is an outstanding car

906
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: and deserves the award. Check out byd Auto dot co

907
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: dot MZ for more.

908
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: Heather duper c Ellen whither the.

909
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: Commanding officer is responsible for the competency of their crew.

910
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: If they put someone clueless to the operation of the

911
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: ship in charge of them, they take the hit too. Sorry,

912
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: fair enough, No, I mean that's how it rules. It works, right,

913
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: If you're in charge of the ship, you're in charge

914
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: of the ship. I just think it's relevant that we've

915
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: been giving her grief for being a lady who can't

916
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 3: drive a ship. But the lady wasn't driving the ship.

917
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 3: So you got to take it back now, don't you. Anyway.

918
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: Eighteen past five, good news for Auckland concert goers. Eden

919
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: Park has been given permission to host twice as many

920
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: it's every year, so they're going to be able to

921
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: do twelve concerts up to six different artists and Nick

922
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: Saughtner is the CEO.

923
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 21: Haynak Good afternoon, Heather and thanks for your time.

924
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Helison, have you got any concerts lined up already?

925
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: Anything you need to tell.

926
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 21: Us, Well, we already have Luke Combs in January and

927
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 21: Metallica in November. But yeah, I've been in contact with

928
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 21: a number of promoters today. They're delighted with the news.

929
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 21: It's been a massive twelve months for Eden Park. It

930
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 21: started with Venue of the Year with the Stadium Business

931
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 21: Awards late last year, then delivering two Pink concerts, the

932
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 21: world's largest Harker Travis Scott, three Coldplay shows, the All

933
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 21: Blacks fifty Wings without in thirty years without a loss.

934
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 21: Then you get the women's and men's Blues team winning

935
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 21: Super Rugby finals and our residents ninety seven pence cent

936
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 21: support for the submission and an outstanding way to cap

937
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 21: off a great year at the park.

938
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 3: Why is it limited to six artists?

939
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 21: Well, that was the criteria that was put forward under

940
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 21: the conditions of the consent. As you've seen over the

941
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 21: last five years, we've worked with the community but also

942
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 21: counsel to amend our conditions giving confidence and one of

943
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 21: the things I want to emphasize is that we have delivered.

944
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 21: We said that we were going to deliver concerts for

945
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 21: our national stadium and we've done that. Our team has

946
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 21: been relentless in our delivery, three thousand casual staff, etc.

947
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 21: So over time, we wanted to build a level of

948
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 21: comfort with everyone, including whether it be the public transport

949
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 21: providers to know that we can get people to and

950
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 21: from the venue, or indeed the local businesses to receive

951
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 21: the economic benefit arising from these twelve shows or currently

952
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 21: the six.

953
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: Do you reckon you'll ever be able to beat? How

954
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: epic that Coldplay concert was.

955
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 21: Well, if you reflected on since we have had concerts

956
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 21: have started with six sixty, the rest of the world

957
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 21: was locked down wearing masks, and we had fifty thousand

958
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 21: fans on Eden Park, from Billy Joel to Ed Sheeran,

959
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 21: from Pink Now to Coldplay, Travis Scott to Guns N' Roses.

960
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 21: It's a probably a who's who of entertainment that has

961
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 21: performed at our National Stadium, I'm sure. And we heard

962
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 21: Chris Martin make a comment that most Englishmen come to

963
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 21: Eden Park and they get there beaten. Well, he was

964
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 21: one of those people who actually had a win. It

965
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 21: one hundred and eighty thousand people coming to the park

966
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 21: over it's the biggest event in entertainment in New Zealand's history,

967
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 21: and I think we've got to reflect on that that

968
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 21: only five years ago we had people who wanted en

969
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 21: Park to be a sports venue and we've been committed

970
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 21: to this agenda. We wanted a quality for both women

971
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 21: and men when it came to sport, but also for

972
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 21: entertainers and I'm extremely proud we've had over two thousand

973
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 21: people put in submissions of support the Residents Association as

974
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 21: an example. They did their independent research, they attended the

975
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 21: hearing and this is the outcome. It's a great outcome

976
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 21: for Aukland and New Zealand.

977
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: Stuff man, congratulations, thank you. Next time, Eden Park's CEO,

978
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: Heather has Luxeon had a testosterone implant because that was

979
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: great stuff. He's hardening up, digging deeper into the day's headlines.

980
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: It's Heather Doopers Allen drive with one New Zealand. Let's

981
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 1: get connected and youth dogs.

982
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: That'd be hey.

983
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: Andrew Ordison's at the cracket, so we're going to go

984
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: to him after the news which is coming up at

985
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: us shortly it's five twenty four. Listen, if you're if

986
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: sympathy for the gangs gets you goat, then you might

987
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 3: need to block your ears for this one. Because Stuff

988
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 3: is running a story today with the headline asking whether

989
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: the police cracked down on that gang Tonguey and toe

990
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: Dungy yesterday was disgusting overreach or fair cop And to

991
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: be fair to the article, it doesn't actually make a

992
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 3: call one way or the other, but it does have

993
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: a bit of a sympathetic tone to it because it

994
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: reports this Stuff captured the moment two shirtless mobsters were

995
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: handcuffed and arrested. It's unclear what their infringement was as

996
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: there was no insignia on their clothing. Oh shame, must

997
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: have been an unfair arrest then, as kind of the

998
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 3: tone there isn't it anyway? The article then talks about

999
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: that video of the Cooeer who scolds the were parking

1000
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: near the cemetery, and it references Rock, a dog who

1001
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: featured on our show yesterday. He's the chap who held

1002
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 3: the press conference complaining that he wasn't allowed back to

1003
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: the toungy after the gangs took us clothing that had

1004
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: all the gang symbols on it, and he thought that

1005
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: that was unfair because it was just a minor thing,

1006
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: he said, and he was just wearing clothes. Well, you

1007
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 3: were warned. You were warned about those clothes. Rock a

1008
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: dog anyway, no surprise to you at all that When

1009
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: I'm asked the question, is it disgusting overreach or fair cop,

1010
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to come down on the side a fair cop,

1011
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: because absolutely I feel some sympathy for the old ladies

1012
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: who just want a farewell someone that they love and

1013
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 3: it's a hassle to have the cops around, kind of

1014
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 3: ruining the moment. But that's what happens when you hang

1015
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: out with gang members, unfortunately. And if we tell the

1016
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: cops that they shouldn't be enforcing the law around a cemetry,

1017
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 3: what are we saying laws don't apply at the cemetery.

1018
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 11: Of course they do.

1019
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: And it's not as if gang members have for the

1020
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: last few years been demonstrating how responsible they are when

1021
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 3: it comes to following laws at somber occasions like this.

1022
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you just cast your mind back to any

1023
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: number of toungey that we saw during the tenure of

1024
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: Andrew Costan. There were squeelies and cats and all kinds

1025
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 3: of stuff going on. And by the way, let me

1026
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: remind you if you're wondering we're being too hard on

1027
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: these guys. This is the same gang, the mongrel Mob,

1028
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: which you will read about in a completely different story

1029
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: in the paper today about how three of them went

1030
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 3: up to a car and shot a bloke through the

1031
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 3: leg with a spear gun in front of his kids unprovoked.

1032
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: So also the same gang that held the tonguey where

1033
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 3: the police found two firearms. Hardly the kind of upstanding citizens.

1034
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: I think we should be cutting some slack, don't you think.

1035
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 3: And also let me point you to this. The article

1036
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: concludes by quoting a cop who says it's the best

1037
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 3: gang Tonguey he's been to. Six months ago they would

1038
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 3: have been flaunting it right in front of the police,

1039
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: but now they've dialed it down a few notches. It's good.

1040
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 3: There's your answer.

1041
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: Either due for Sellen, whether the commander.

1042
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: Wasn't the only lady on the ship. You're making a

1043
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: big presumption and you are dissing males in your commentary.

1044
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: I feel like Brennan's taking the mickey, don't you I

1045
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: feel like, I feel like Brenna's tay. The only reason

1046
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: we're talking about this because everybody's been talking about lady

1047
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: drivers being bad. And let me remind you what did

1048
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: Judith say. There are three who are being court martialed.

1049
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: Two of them are men and one is a lady.

1050
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: So who's the bad driver?

1051
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 5: Now?

1052
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: Just pointing out it was two dudes? And you know what,

1053
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: like this will surprise absolutely no women that there. It

1054
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: says on the screen autopilot on, and two blokes cannot

1055
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: look at the screen and see autopilot's on, just saying

1056
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: headline's next.

1057
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: The day's newsmakers talk to Heather first.

1058
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: Heather Dupless Allen drive with one New Zealand let's get

1059
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: connected and youth talk.

1060
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: Z'd be.

1061
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: Shane. You know, I don't know if you caught up

1062
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 3: on this, but there's been a little bit of a

1063
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: thing that's been going on with public health workers and

1064
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: the McDonald's and Warnica and Shane that RITTI has got

1065
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 3: himself to involved involved and told them off and you're

1066
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: going to want to hear about it, so I'll tell

1067
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: you hopefully before this hour is through. Hither I'm loving

1068
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: the police heading the gangs. They're all bad and they've

1069
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: held our country to ransom for too long. Hope the

1070
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: Coppers keep the pressure on them for years to come.

1071
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: Just hope the judge is not limp wristed when it's

1072
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: sentencing time. I think we'd all agree with that. Actually

1073
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: sports title standing. By this evening, we've got Andrew Gordy

1074
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: and Adam Cooper right now, twenty four away from.

1075
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: Six Heather duper cee Ellen, so the black Cats.

1076
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: Are still on top. At Hagley Oval. On day two

1077
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 3: of their Test match against England, New Zealand was bowled

1078
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: out for three hundred and forty eight. Came Williamson top

1079
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: scored on ninety three the English last time I checked

1080
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: with two hundred and sixty one for five, and Andrew

1081
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: Ordison is at the ground for us.

1082
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: Then zid me hey orders greeting's Heather would you say?

1083
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 8: Look?

1084
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 13: Oh you Carol, just how he approximated his seventh Test

1085
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 13: century not long ago. So he's moved through to one

1086
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 13: hundred and four. But in New Zealand's still holding on here,

1087
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 13: but England looking well in contention now moving to two

1088
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 13: sixty four for five with the Stokes out there as well,

1089
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 13: and the couple other Gus Etkinson's had a Test century,

1090
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Speaker 13: so there's still plenty of work to do for this

1091
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Speaker 13: New Zealand bowling attack.

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Speaker 3: It was I getting ahead of myself when I said

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Speaker 3: we're still on top.

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Speaker 5: Well you're technically crack. Yeah, well I've never known you

1095
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Speaker 5: to be wrong.

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00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: Oh you carry on like that and you have a

1097
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 3: place on the show forever. Hey tell me, are you

1098
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 3: impressed with Nathan Smith?

1099
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 13: I was, actually I thought he was really whippy that

1100
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Speaker 13: actually brings his shoulder over and really gets that ball through.

1101
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 13: He was bowling in the sort of mid one thirties

1102
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 13: from what I could see, but able to get two

1103
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 13: wickets with his first nine balls in Test cricket, which

1104
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 13: was a terrific Evett would have had more too. But

1105
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 13: the reason he's in to let themselves down a bit here,

1106
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 13: that is these four dropped catches in the field. Tom

1107
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 13: Lathan dropped a couple, we saw Devin Conway dropped one

1108
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 13: out on the boundary as well, and yeah, just there

1109
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 13: was just an iff by Glenn Phillips as well, and

1110
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Speaker 13: Phillips made up for it the spectacular diving effort to

1111
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 13: remove Olie Pope and that brought that partner one fifty

1112
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 13: one for the fifth wicket to an end. They came

1113
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 13: to give it seventy one for four, so just miss Pope.

1114
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 13: I think Pope made seventy seven, but that was a

1115
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 13: crucial wicket.

1116
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: What did you make of rush and Ravendra yesterday? Did

1117
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: you notice this where he got the edge and the

1118
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: English didn't realize it actually caught him?

1119
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I did see that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I

1121
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 13: don't think anyone realizes at the edge. Maybe ruts and

1122
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 13: did I don't know, but it's unusual for teams not

1123
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 13: to go up for an appeal, that's for sure. It

1124
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 13: must have been an absolute feather.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And what are you making of the fact that it's

1127
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: been pointed out to be my some of the guys

1128
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: here in the newsroom that actually England is bowling really slowly,

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00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 3: Like I'm not sure that they're clearing ninety overs a day.

1130
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: Is that weird?

1131
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1132
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 13: I thought that was exceptionally solow. I think they only

1133
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 13: got through eighty three overs yesterday. And you tend to

1134
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 13: get fined by the ICC for that, by the match

1135
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 13: refree at the game's end, but equally you also get

1136
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 13: and it's not going to affect thing on that much

1137
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 13: because they're not in contention for the World Test Championship.

1138
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 13: But you get points doctor as well if METS referee

1139
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 13: David Boone decides that that is indeed the case. But

1140
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 13: it actually it's cheating spectators really because they're not seeing

1141
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 13: the ninety overs that they've paid for or should be getting.

1142
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 13: So that's a bit unfortunate time on their part. They

1143
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 13: need to get a bit more spring in the step.

1144
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 3: Fair enough orders. Now, do you have to actually work

1145
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 3: full time or are you allowed to have a little

1146
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 3: brew here and there?

1147
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: No, I'm working full time here.

1148
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 5: No, no, no opportunity for forty winks here.

1149
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: You know, just such a nice day.

1150
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 5: It's beautiful.

1151
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 13: It's a little chilly in the tent, but I'm not complaining.

1152
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, obviously, but it's lovely out here,

1153
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 13: just on outside at the moment. And yeah, just quite

1154
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 13: a barmie afternoon, really perhaps chilling down a touch, but

1155
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 13: just a light breeze coming across the ground I think

1156
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 13: from the east at the moment. In just extremely pleasant conditions.

1157
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 13: It's just a pretty full, crowded on Friday.

1158
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 3: Somebody just said to me, and my headphones he loves

1159
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: the buffet.

1160
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 13: What does that mean, well, fond of a fond of

1161
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 13: lining up for a decent fee here, that's part of

1162
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 13: the joys of covering it here.

1163
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

1164
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 13: The caramel slice was a tree, as I was described

1165
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 13: by a British do you know, as a millionaire short bread.

1166
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 13: And I just had a bit of that with a

1167
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 13: cup of earl gray and that was delightful.

1168
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: Oh yum orders thank you for that, Andrew Ordison ended me,

1169
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 3: cricket commentator. Oh my gosh. Immediately I need I have

1170
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: this like burning desire to eat a carameal slice. It's

1171
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: not normal, by the way, this is not a normal

1172
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: impulse that I'm feeling. This is what happens when you

1173
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 3: tell a pregnant lady about something delicious, like immediately I

1174
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 3: have to have it. So anyway, I'm a bit stuck here,

1175
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 3: aren't I in a chair talking to you? But at

1176
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: some stage that I will have that. Actually, nineteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Six, the Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand southebeast international realty,

1178
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: local and global exposure like no other.

1179
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Speaker 19: I'm right.

1180
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: Danny goes on the pool.

1181
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 16: On the pool the way he doesn't go for sex,

1182
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 16: it does.

1183
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: He does it in style. He brings up fifty. How

1184
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 2: he brooke? Oh, he's taking up Phillips, you little riffer.

1185
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 2: Tied it away.

1186
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 3: Supermeric grabs at the one head spoils uddle. This evening,

1187
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: Adam Cooper hosted the All Sports Breakfast in Wellington and

1188
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 3: Andrew Gordy zb's key we head of communications. High lads,

1189
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 3: Can I hear that Copsy?

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00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 16: There?

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00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 6: There?

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00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: We are good? Okay, We've got both of you present

1193
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 3: and accounted for. Gordon? Did you see that catch from Phillips?

1194
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 3: That was actually amazing?

1195
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 6: Did I see the catch hither?

1196
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 22: I saw a fantastic catch, Glen Phillips. He's got a

1197
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 22: real He's Scott form in this area, hasn't he. He's

1198
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 22: fantastic in the field. He's an energizer bunny, so no

1199
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 22: surprise to see him take that catch. But can I

1200
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 22: just stop and pause for a moment to acknowledge the

1201
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 22: power of radio We just sort of witnessed, or at

1202
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 22: least heard from Andrew Ordison.

1203
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 6: Just before the power of radio.

1204
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 22: Just to mention the caramel slice here though I had

1205
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 22: the same reaction to you, I'm not pregnant and I

1206
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 22: have the same reaction as you made, and I'm actually

1207
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 22: wondering if what we really need from orders is not

1208
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 22: a review of the day's cricket.

1209
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 6: We need a review of the bay.

1210
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 22: Because You're absolutely right, all it is will be tapping

1211
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 22: into the bar bay and probably a couple of pints up.

1212
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: Have you though, Gordie, have you got caramel slice in

1213
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 3: the house?

1214
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 22: I don't have caramel slice house, but I guarantee you

1215
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 22: within two hours I probably will.

1216
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 3: Oh good from you. I've already got it. This is

1217
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: the kind of level of high operation that we're operating

1218
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: in the in my household. I've got it for instances

1219
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: like this, and I will be going home and eating it.

1220
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 3: Why not? I uber eats it over from home, Coots.

1221
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 3: Some of the guys here in the in the newsroom

1222
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 3: are saying that they've immediately because of Russian revender, catch

1223
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: revender catching the edge and the English guys not realizing

1224
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 3: that actually the umpire should be able to step in

1225
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: here and say that was a wicked and he's out.

1226
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 3: I hate the idea. What do you think?

1227
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 6: No, absolutely, I totally agree with you either.

1228
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 14: You know, it's it's yours. It's tough if if you're

1229
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 14: the fielding team and yet you don't get the opportunity.

1230
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 14: A big part of cricketers is the appeal. It's sensing,

1231
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 14: sensing the opportunities and knowing when to to put your

1232
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 14: hand hands up as maker and make as much noise

1233
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 14: as you think you should to try and convince the umpire.

1234
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 6: It's part of the art of cricket. That's how it's

1235
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 6: always been.

1236
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 14: And I don't think there should be a the umpire

1237
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 14: that can sort of off his own that you don't

1238
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 14: call it without an appeal or any intervention, as as

1239
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 14: some might suggest from from any you know, third umpire

1240
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 14: or TV official, like what is happening in other sports.

1241
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 14: So keep it pure, keep the players responsible for questioning

1242
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 14: and and putting up their fight for a decision like that.

1243
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: I reckon, Hey gool, did you reckon? Damien McKenzie is

1244
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 3: the best first five in the world.

1245
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 6: No, he's not even the best first five out in

1246
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 6: New Zealand. I hate to say it.

1247
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 22: That's not to say that I don't have a great

1248
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 22: deal of admiration for Damian McKenzie and his performance against

1249
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 22: Ireland and what was clearly the All Blacks best performance

1250
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 22: and best victory of the year. He was absolutely outstanding

1251
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 22: in that and in fact I wanted him to get

1252
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 22: in another opportunity the following week. But I think if

1253
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 22: you really made me make a decision on the spot

1254
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 22: about who should be the starting first five eights right

1255
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 22: now for the All Blacks, I'm probably going to pick

1256
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 22: Boden Barrack and put Will Jordan at fullback.

1257
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 6: And that's without even having had a conversation.

1258
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say, you're not picking Richie.

1259
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 6: Well, I can't pick them for the All Blacks at

1260
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 6: the moment.

1261
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: What if we change the rules for you?

1262
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 6: Are you changing them for me? Or are you changing

1263
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 6: them for Scott Robertson.

1264
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 3: I'm changing them for all of us.

1265
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, this is a deep debate. How deep do

1266
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 6: you want to go on this debate?

1267
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 22: Heither, because I personally don't think we should be picking

1268
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 22: Richie Muanger from Japan or from outside of Super Rugby,

1269
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 22: but I think the rule need to change to allow

1270
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 22: players to move freely within Super Rugby and New Zealand

1271
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 22: Rugby needs to get real about the situation they're facing

1272
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 22: right here, and that is that players can earn a

1273
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 22: truckload more money overseas, so they need to open it

1274
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 22: up and allow players better opportunities, better commercial opportunities, and

1275
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 22: allow them to capitalize on the clear commercial opportunities that

1276
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 22: exist within not only New Zealand, but Australia as well

1277
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 22: and the wider Pacific. And that might be the way

1278
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 22: that we keep all blacks within this competition and let

1279
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 22: those players.

1280
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: Play for Okay, Coops, let's get your taken on it

1281
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: after the break.

1282
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: Quarter to two the Friday sports Huddle with New Zealand

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1284
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Speaker 3: Right, you're back at the sports huddle, Adam Cooper and

1285
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 3: Andrew Gordy. Coops, what do you think of loosening up

1286
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: the old eligibility rules for the all Blacks?

1287
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think something does need to change. I mean

1288
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 14: I'm still a purist and I think that you know,

1289
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 14: on the whole, you know, the Super Rugby competition and

1290
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 14: keeping our players here, you know, benefiting the game, you know,

1291
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 14: at a domestic level, does need to be protected in

1292
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 14: some ways. But I do think it's pretty archaic having

1293
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 14: a one size fits or category. You know, at the

1294
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 14: moment you need to play around seventy tests before you're

1295
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 14: considered for a sabbatical. But I think these kind of

1296
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 14: decisions to actually be made on a case by case basis.

1297
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 14: You know, some common sense assess you know what lies ahead,

1298
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 14: and a Richie Wong is case, you know, he could

1299
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 14: have had a case where he's obviously now where near

1300
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 14: seventy tests yet. But to be able to head away

1301
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 14: and be in far less of a messy situation, not

1302
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 14: just for him, but forty ze on a rugby and

1303
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 14: where they are now by it, you think they need

1304
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 14: to do all they can to get him back. It

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Speaker 14: was a mistake letting him go. They're going to have

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00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 14: to break some of their own rules to get him back,

1307
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 14: and it could well set a precedent. But you know,

1308
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 14: hopefully if they are bringing him back, they learn from

1309
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 14: this and they do tweak some of these rules because

1310
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 14: it is not moving in the right direction. I think

1311
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Speaker 14: for any parties that the sport of rugby all the

1312
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Speaker 14: players themselves.

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Speaker 3: Goody, now, let me get this right. Okay, so you

1314
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: think the rules should change, but not for Richie?

1315
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Speaker 2: Is that right?

1316
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 6: Not for Richie because he's playing in Japan.

1317
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Speaker 22: What I'd like to see change is players allowed to

1318
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 22: move freely within the Super Rugby right. And so the

1319
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 22: example I'll give you is that Ardie Savia can go

1320
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 22: and play for the New South Wales Warritas and he

1321
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 22: can pick up massive endorsements over in Sydney. Like the

1322
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 22: player who are contracted to Rugby Australia are far better

1323
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 22: able to leverage their commercial sort of well leverage leverage

1324
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 22: the commercial opportunities that are available over in Australia than

1325
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 22: New Zealand players are. And I think that's something that

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01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,479
Speaker 22: New Zealand Rugby needs to get their head around. Allow

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 22: that freedom of movement. Players who are playing and Super

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01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 22: Ruby can represent the All Blacks, but they can earn

1329
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Speaker 22: a lot more money yes by representing them.

1330
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Speaker 3: Allow them to go off and play if they want

1331
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Speaker 3: to play in Ireland, will play in Japan and come

1332
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Speaker 3: back and represent the All Blacks. It hasn't gone half

1333
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: badly for Argentina or South Africa, has it.

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Speaker 22: Well, it's going to weaken the weaken our domestic competitions massively,

1335
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 22: like Super Rugby will will suffer very badly in NPC.

1336
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 22: I'd argue you might just die. So it's all about

1337
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 22: protecting the domestic competition. Which is a factor that absolutely

1338
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 22: needs to be considered. But the reality is that the

1339
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 22: floodgates or that we opened the door to this when

1340
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Speaker 22: Dan Carter went on sabbatical way back and what was

1341
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 22: it about two thousand and eight, And now it's like

1342
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 22: the Oprah Winfrey means, you know, you get a sabbatical,

1343
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 22: you get ausabbatical, and gets a sabbatical. And so now

1344
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 22: it's taken about fifteen or so years for us to

1345
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 22: reach this point where the sabbatical doesn't mean anything like

1346
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 22: it used to. And so now we're talking about this

1347
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 22: because one prominent player and a very important player to

1348
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 22: the All Black setup has decided, do you know what,

1349
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 22: I'm going to take the money. And he's played to

1350
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 22: Rugby World Cups. He hasn't had success obviously, but he's

1351
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 22: decided I've had my time in the All Blacks. I've

1352
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Speaker 22: got to go on earn my money.

1353
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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough. Listen, really quick take from you on this, please, coops.

1354
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: Do you think that the next time someone who leads

1355
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 3: the hucker for the All Blacks goes to the rugby

1356
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 3: management and says I want to do something political, they'll.

1357
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Speaker 14: Say yes, Uh, They're going to have to delve into

1358
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 14: it a lot more, I think, and you know, to

1359
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 14: a few more, few more checks and balances. Yeah, it's

1360
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 14: certainly going to I think you know, the management are

1361
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 14: the biggest losers.

1362
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Speaker 2: Of all this.

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Speaker 14: You know, it's blown up to a point where a

1364
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 14: lot more than I think, you know, they they wanted it,

1365
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 14: they expected it too, and was probably just yeah, just

1366
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 14: to send it up a far worse situation. So I

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01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 14: expect a lot more scre around around where this goes,

1368
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 14: probably some more guidelines set up and maybe some rules

1369
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 14: in place with those that are leading it. But you know,

1370
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 14: I think we talked on Monday here the four days on.

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01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 14: It's kind of gone away now. It was ten seconds

1372
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Speaker 14: of the start of it.

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01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 3: Wait you wait until you see the text machine after

1374
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: you've finished talking Matt, and they're still angry about it.

1375
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 3: What do you reckon? Goodie?

1376
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Speaker 6: What I'll say is this here that people like Adam

1377
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 6: Cooper and I have sat in front of so many

1378
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 6: athletes over the years who don't say anything, and I

1379
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 6: sit there sometimes begging them to say something, do something

1380
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 6: that is going to be half interesting. So if you

1381
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 6: think that.

1382
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Speaker 22: I'm going to come on your program this afternoon and

1383
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 22: crucify TJ pet nat.

1384
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Speaker 6: If it's saying something something different, you can forget it.

1385
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Speaker 3: That's a fair point, guys. It's lovely to talk to you.

1386
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Speaker 3: Enjoy your cricket at All the Sport this weekend. That's

1387
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Speaker 3: Adam Cooper, host to All Sport Breakfasts and Wellington and

1388
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 3: Andrew Gordy enzb keyhead of Communications. Right away from six,

1389
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Speaker 3: Red or Blue?

1390
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: Trump or Harris? Who will win the battleground states? The

1391
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: latest on the US election? Heather Duplicy allan drive with

1392
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: One New Zealand let's get connected youth talks'd.

1393
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 3: Be what did I say to Coops? And the text

1394
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 3: are coming in Heither. You just triggered me bringing up

1395
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 3: TJ's ucker, Heather, I'm not gonna be watching the All

1396
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 3: Blacks anymore here. That's something changed after the weekend with

1397
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 3: our family's relationship with the All Blacks and so on.

1398
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 3: So people so angry about it. Five away from six Okay,

1399
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 3: so this is this is what you need to know

1400
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 3: on what Shane that he has done. I love this.

1401
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 3: You would have heard earlier this week. I think Mike

1402
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: was talking about it. That the McDonald's Wanaka situation. You

1403
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 3: know how they want to put the McDonald's in Wanaca,

1404
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: and everybody in Wanaca are like, now, we don't like

1405
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 3: it because we're too pash for that. Basically two passion,

1406
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 3: too green and too nice and no, no, not that stuff.

1407
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 3: What happened is that the National Public Health Service also

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01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: got involved and submitted on it at the invitation I

1409
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 3: think of the local council and they put an eight

1410
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 3: page submission and then Shane that Et saw it and

1411
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 3: he is not happy about it. He has written he's

1412
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 3: I think written, all spoken or emailed or text. I

1413
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 3: don't know Margie. Margie's the Chief Executive of Health New

1414
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 3: Zealand and told her this stuff's not going to happen anymore.

1415
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 3: He says the National Public Health Service should concentrate on

1416
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 3: its focus on prioritizing serious public health issues facing New Zealanders.

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Speaker 3: Content within the submission, including observations about planetary health, landscape, values,

1418
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 3: traffic and teterriti, do not match my overarching view of

1419
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 3: what the National Public Health Service should be spending its

1420
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 3: time on. Hoping, cough measles, raising immunization rates are amongst

1421
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 3: the most pressing issues facing health today. Are you disagreeing

1422
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 3: with any of this at the stage, No, I didn't

1423
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 3: think so. I also found it astonishing that a submission

1424
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Speaker 3: from a health agency did not address the topics it

1425
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 3: might have been expected to. There was no mention in

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01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 3: the document I have seen of healthy eating. I am

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01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: pleased to hear that the National Director of the NPHS

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01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: National Public Health Service has now undertaken to review all

1429
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 3: potential public submissions from his agency, whether it is national, local,

1430
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: or regional level. I mean, what does that Does that

1431
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 3: not tell you absolutely everything that you need to know

1432
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 3: about what's going on in the public sector. Literally, their

1433
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 3: job is to keep us healthy, and they're finding every

1434
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: other job under the sun to get involved in rather

1435
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: than actually keeping us healthy. There are chill There are

1436
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 3: like sixty three babies the under twelve months ended up

1437
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 3: in hospital this year this month sorry, with hooping cough,

1438
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 3: and they're worried about planetary health and traffic. I mean,

1439
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 3: tells you everything you need to know. Thank god Shane

1440
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 3: that as she stepped in there, and also thank god

1441
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Speaker 3: I think it was Eric Crampton raised it in the

1442
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 3: first place, so on him. Confirmation of pay good from

1443
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 3: the banks. They've finally introduced it. What it means is

1444
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 3: that when you send somebody some money in your bank account,

1445
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 3: you're going to have to put in like your mum's

1446
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: name and your mum's bank account. If you try sticking

1447
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: a Nigerian prince's bank account and it's going to say, hey,

1448
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 3: this is not okay. You can still make it happen

1449
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 3: if you're determined, but it's gonna say, hey, this is

1450
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: not a good idea, and you do you do with

1451
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 3: that whatever you want. In the Netherlands, when they did this,

1452
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 3: there was an eighty one percent decline in the number

1453
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 3: of fraudulent domestic bank transfers. To talk about it next

1454
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: insteads they've been.

1455
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,479
Speaker 2: Keeping track of where the money is going.

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Speaker 1: With both the Business hour, we'd hand the duplicy Ellen

1457
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: and my hr on news talks.

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01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 2: I'd be.

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Speaker 11: Evening.

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Speaker 3: Coming up in the next hour, we're going to have

1461
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 3: a chat about tam Trump tariffs. He's obviously threatened that

1462
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 3: he's going to do it on day one. Talk to

1463
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 3: Peter Lewis about whether China is taking that seriously or not.

1464
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 3: Barry Soap will rap the political week that was, and

1465
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 3: we'll go to the UK as well. At seven past six.

1466
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Speaker 3: Now a new confirmation of payee service has been rolled

1467
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 3: out by the banks from now on. When you make

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01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: a bank transfer to somebody you haven't made a bank

1469
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 3: transfer to before, and you put in the name in

1470
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 3: the account number you're transferring to, you get a little

1471
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 3: warning if those two things don't match. The idea is

1472
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Speaker 3: to make it easier for us to spot when we

1473
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 3: might be being scammed. Duncan Robertson is the CEO of

1474
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 3: get Verified, which is the organization that set this all up,

1475
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Speaker 3: and he's with us. Now, Hey, Duncan, Hey, how often

1476
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 3: is it happening that this is how we get scamm

1477
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: where the number that we're given doesn't match the name.

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 19: Oh.

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Speaker 23: I don't have any precise figure facts and figures on that,

1480
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 23: but obviously from offshore experiences, it's a key control and

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01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 23: preventative to ensure that you're paying the person you thought

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01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 23: you were paying.

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01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 3: So how it's going to work is that if let's

1484
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 3: say I want to send some money to you, put

1485
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 3: your name in and I put your bank account number in,

1486
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 3: and if they don't match, it just it tells me

1487
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 3: that they don't match. But I can still force it through,

1488
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 3: can't I?

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01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean the customer can still make the payment.

1490
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 23: I guess the key thing is as a customer of

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Speaker 23: the ten banks that are in the process of rolling

1492
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 23: this out, you don't need to do anything different from

1493
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 23: what you already do. It's just when the service is available,

1494
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 23: you'll get to pop up message to say yep, that's

1495
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 23: a match, or it looks like you've got a couple

1496
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 23: of typos, it's a partial match, or no. The name

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01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 23: and the account number you even put it are not

1498
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 23: the same as what the receiving bank has, So.

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Speaker 3: I imagine that it might be a little niggly for

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01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 3: some people, right because I don't know. Maybe I'll put

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01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: in Duncan Robertson with an se N and that would

1502
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 3: be sufficient for me for it to flag that I'm

1503
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 3: not sending it to the right person. And and there

1504
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: may be quite a few people who get slightly irritated.

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 23: Do you think I mean the key other thing just

1506
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 23: to call out, Yeah, you can get irritated irritated, But

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01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 23: the key is that the banks are also rolling out Basically,

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01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 23: they're rolling out a service whereby you can go as

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01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 23: if you want to get someone like if I wanted

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01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 23: you to pay me, I'd go into my bank account

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01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 23: and then I essentially would send you the account validated

1512
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 23: name and account number.

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01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 6: And then you can put that directly.

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01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 23: So there are ways to mitigate that.

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01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 3: Is that already, like I think because I bank with

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01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 3: ASP and I'm pretty sure that I can just send

1517
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Speaker 3: you can you can share your account number and now

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Speaker 3: it would be share my account number and my account

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Speaker 3: number presumer.

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Speaker 23: But yeah, yeah, it has your full registered name and

1521
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 23: your account number, so it makes a lot easier.

1522
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff. Hey was this very hard to build?

1523
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 23: Well, we you know, we're a bunch across the banks,

1524
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 23: and we quickly decided actually, rather than build it ourselves,

1525
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 23: like the UK have had it for a number of years,

1526
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 23: let's you know, let's use what they've gotten.

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Speaker 5: That really split up the process.

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Speaker 23: So we've partnered with a UK organization to achieve that,

1529
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 23: which you know, we agreed the requirements in April and

1530
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 23: we have gone live in November, so you know, that

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01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 23: definitely was the right way to go.

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Speaker 3: This is such a no brainer. Why didn't we do

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01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 3: this years ago?

1534
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Speaker 23: Now, I mean it's a great question. I guess when

1535
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 23: we looked at when you see a bank your association.

1536
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 23: Back September last year, looked around and said, well where

1537
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 23: are the risks and then fundamentally where can the banks

1538
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 23: help because obviously we can only get involved and we

1539
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 23: see at the payment end of the process. So this

1540
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 23: was one of the areas which we flagged has been

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01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 23: an urgent area to expediate and roll.

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Speaker 3: Out brilliant stuff. Duncan, thank you very much for talking

1543
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 3: us through it. Appreciated. That's Duncan Robertson, CEO of Get Verified.

1544
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 3: I got to give a shout out to Kiwibank because

1545
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 3: I was reading about another scam today and I thought,

1546
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 3: actually key Wei Bank handled this one really well. What

1547
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 3: happened is that there was a fun at A couple

1548
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 3: last Thursday lost their bank card and somebody found it

1549
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 3: handed it into key We Bank, and then Kiwibank called

1550
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 3: them and said, hey, we've got your bank card. It's

1551
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 3: worth us and they're like, got sweet as I go

1552
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 3: call will come and collect it on Monday. So they

1553
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 3: just left it and didn't think anything more about it

1554
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 3: until Saturday when they looked at their bank account and

1555
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 3: they had forty four cents left. What had happened was

1556
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 3: that the person who found it and handed it to

1557
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 3: Kiwi Bank took photographs of it, and even though that

1558
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 3: handed it in, they still wanted to help find the

1559
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 3: people who had They wanted to alert the people who'd

1560
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 3: lost their bank account their bank cards, so they went

1561
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: onto Facebook and shared the bank card on Facebook, the

1562
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 3: photographs of it, and obviously it was like, who's is this?

1563
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 3: We found it, we handed it in. Somebody obviously saw

1564
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 3: that on Facebook, took the details and then used the

1565
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 3: card on uber EAT's online games, clearing after pay debts,

1566
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff, and they spent three five hundred

1567
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 3: dollars leaving as I said, the couple with forty four cents.

1568
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 3: And the couple were devastated when they saw this on

1569
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 3: Saturday because they needed that money to pay their mortgage

1570
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 3: and they were saving some for Christmas with their four

1571
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 3: year old, and they needed to buy some stuff because

1572
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 3: they had the baby arriving in January and blah blah blah. Anyway,

1573
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 3: do you know what Kiwibank did? Reimbursed the lot. Now,

1574
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 3: to be fair, I suppose maybe ki Bank is like

1575
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 3: ever so slightly exposed here because once the card had

1576
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 3: been handed and maybe you could argue that Kiwi Bank

1577
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: should have also put a little block on it, but

1578
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 3: I reckon, not I reckon. Kiwibank actually just were being

1579
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 3: good sorts because they just were like, you know what,

1580
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: this is a distinct thing top we actually probably have

1581
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 3: very little obligation here, stinct thing to happen to this couple.

1582
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 3: Decent thing to do is help them out, and they

1583
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 3: helped them out. So good on Keybank for that six.

1584
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Speaker 1: Thirteen analysis from the experts bringing you everything you need

1585
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: to know on the US election. It's The Business Hour

1586
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: with Heather Duplicy Allen and my Hr Ehr solution for

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01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: busy SMEs used talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be.

1589
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 3: Heither, why didn't the people put a block on the card, Jenny.

1590
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 3: They didn't put a block on the card because the

1591
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 3: card was with Kiwibank staff, so they didn't think that

1592
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 3: they needed to, which actually makes sense when you think

1593
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 3: about it. You think the cards saved, You don't think

1594
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 3: the Duodo found it is now sharing it on Lynston.

1595
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 3: It's also only epically dumb thing to do. Anyway. Oh,

1596
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 3: by the way, Tom Latham just dropped another catch, So

1597
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:16,480
Speaker 3: it was Stokes batting Nathan Smith bowling Smith Bowl's beautiful.

1598
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 3: Stokes collects it straight into the hands of Tom Latham

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01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 3: and he drops it for the I think, if I'm correct,

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 3: that's the third catch he's dropped the sinnings. So that's awkward,

1601
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 3: isn't it. Sixteen past six Barry So, senior political correspondent,

1602
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 3: rapping the political week. That was Welcome back, Barry.

1603
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 16: Good afternoon again, Heather.

1604
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 3: Right, you got over the sinking of the ship.

1605
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 16: Oh, it's unblievable. What's the matter with this country? We

1606
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 16: sail in the America's Cup, We win the Cup, Great Sailors.

1607
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 3: Any other boat, any other bunch on the ground, now,

1608
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 3: this one's.

1609
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 19: On the beach.

1610
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 3: Okay, listen, a year on, how do you what number

1611
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 3: out of ten do you give the government?

1612
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

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01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 16: I would give it a seven probably, I think. You know,

1614
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 16: for the amount of change that they've been acted in

1615
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 16: the first year, it's quite extraordinary. They had, of course,

1616
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 16: a baptism of fire. The media were really hard on

1617
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 16: Luxeon and on Peters and on David Seymour, and of

1618
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 16: course the Treaty Principles Bill didn't do the National Party

1619
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,560
Speaker 16: much good at all, but it's at least got the

1620
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 16: debate going, and I think that's quite important that we're

1621
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 16: having the debate and that's a good thing. And I

1622
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 16: think when David Seymour looks back on this, he'll say, well,

1623
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 16: I did achieve something and that was to get people

1624
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 16: talking about it. And he also achieved, of course, great

1625
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 16: prominence for the ACT Party. I mean, he's not a

1626
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 16: wilting violet this matter. And when they laid claim to

1627
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 16: almost seventy moves that he said actors could have contributed

1628
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 16: to this year, you could be forgiven to think it

1629
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 16: was ACT was the government totally on its own. But

1630
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 16: Luxon has after comments because they've all given interviews, Luxon

1631
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 16: has essentially laughed off comments that have been made by

1632
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 16: Winston Peters and David Seymour. But look, a coalition is

1633
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 16: never an easy thing and you've got to have a

1634
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 16: rhinoceros hide to be the prime minister in one like this,

1635
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 16: because ideologically these three parties are quite different. But I

1636
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 16: give them credit that I believe that they will last

1637
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 16: until the next election and probably win it.

1638
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 3: Have you got other TJ per and that as Hacker

1639
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: Yet speaking of getting over the.

1640
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 16: Alloying me so much hither at the moment, No, Peranara,

1641
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 16: I just cannot believe I've been back and watched it

1642
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 16: and sworn at the television screen. And I cannot believe

1643
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 16: that the Rugby Union have said, look, they can do

1644
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 16: and say what they like when they do the haucker.

1645
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 16: I mean it should bring into the question. And I

1646
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 16: love the Hauker, I love watching it, but it should

1647
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 16: bring into question that this is going to be used

1648
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 16: in the way it has. Maybe it's time to look

1649
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 16: at whether this war dance is done before every All

1650
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 16: Blacks test match.

1651
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 3: Well, the RABI you should ask itself whether if TJ

1652
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 3: had come to them and said I want to do

1653
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 3: a hucker in support of what David Seymour is doing

1654
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: and anti the treaty, anti the hikoy, whether they would

1655
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 3: have been chill about that.

1656
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 16: Well, that's and I doubt it very much, would doubt it.

1657
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, very much. And if you're not prepared to go

1658
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 3: yes to both sides, then just don't do it at.

1659
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 16: All, because it's I think with the Muldi flag that

1660
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 16: got a lot of Rugby supporters. I mean, the thing

1661
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 16: is hither that Rugby's going through a bloody tough time

1662
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 16: at the moment anyway, and this doesn't this will add

1663
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,560
Speaker 16: to it because people like me will go, well, hang on,

1664
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,440
Speaker 16: are these people rugby players or protesters?

1665
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 3: You know, hey, Nicky Kay's passing has been marked.

1666
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: The level of.

1667
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 3: The level at which it's been marked really indicated. How

1668
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 3: indicates how talented and prominent she was for a very

1669
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 3: young woman, right.

1670
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, I don't I think it would come

1671
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 16: as a great surprise to Nicki Kay herself to see

1672
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 16: them out of coverage her death got It was, you know,

1673
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 16: unlike any politician that I've seen in recent years. I mean,

1674
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 16: it was as though almost that a prime minister had died.

1675
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 16: But the accolades came and she The biggest mistake of

1676
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 16: her career, of course, and that's why she left, was

1677
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,839
Speaker 16: to back Todd Muller and the leadership spill over Simon

1678
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,560
Speaker 16: Bridges and that was a hiding to nothing over just

1679
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 16: over fifty days. They were the leader of the opposition

1680
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 16: and she was the deputy. I mean, that was a

1681
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 16: big mistake. So the woman has not I don't.

1682
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 3: See why she made it though, to be fair, because

1683
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 3: I mean that was that was a national party, that

1684
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 3: was that was driven by ideological disagreements and on one

1685
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,839
Speaker 3: side and in charge you had quite conservative leader whereas

1686
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 3: she and Todd Muller were quite liberal.

1687
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 16: Actually, yes they were, but of course they never got

1688
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 16: much of a chance to show.

1689
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 3: Just in the end, so she backed the wrong horse

1690
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 3: because he wasn't that great, right. Hey, how good is

1691
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 3: this crack down on crime that we're getting at the moment?

1692
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 16: Pretty good actually, And you know, for the first day

1693
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 16: in the job, Richard Chambers, the police Commissioner, must have

1694
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 16: been very happy to turn up to open a new

1695
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 16: police station in downtown Auckland. We don't know the cost

1696
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 16: of it yet. They're taking over the whole building. They're

1697
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 16: only occupying in Federal Street. They're only occupying two floors

1698
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 16: at the moment, but by years in next year they'll

1699
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 16: be occupying four floors, so that'll come at a pretty

1700
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 16: expensive rate. But nevertheless, people feel better seeing bobbies on

1701
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 16: the beat, and that's what it's all about.

1702
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 3: Anny Barry, thanks very much, Barry so Per, senior political editor,

1703
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 3: A correspondent brother wrapping the political week, that was, Hey,

1704
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 3: what about this. Listen, if you haven't spent all of

1705
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: your money yet at Black Friday sales, and you've got

1706
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 3: one hundred and five dollars left, you could go down

1707
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 3: to the newest cocktail bar in Auckland and blow it

1708
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 3: on one drink that the place is called Meya. I

1709
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 3: think it's down there by the waterfront somewhere Maya. It's

1710
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 3: only got fourteen seats and for one hundred and five

1711
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 3: dollars you will buy yourself a my tie. It's a

1712
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 3: special white tie, an Appleton seventeen my tie. It's got

1713
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 3: a seventeen year old legend rum in it, which is

1714
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 3: a very very rare rum that's being offered by the

1715
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 3: Appleton Estate, and only fifteen hundred bottles of it were

1716
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 3: ever produced globally, and there were just twenty three in

1717
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 3: New Zealand. And so if you want to try this

1718
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 3: particular rum in your my tie, you can pay one

1719
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 3: hundred I just repeat it, one hundred and five dollars

1720
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: for your cocktail. On the plus side, it comes in

1721
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 3: a Ticki mug which you can take home. So yay

1722
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 3: six twenty two.

1723
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 1: Crouching the numbers and getting the results. It's headed duplicy

1724
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to my HR, the

1725
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: HR solution for busy sms on news talks AIRP.

1726
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Speaker 3: By the way, how cool is this?

1727
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Speaker 2: You know?

1728
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 3: The New Zealand clothing maker Cactus Outdoor. You'll have seen

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Speaker 3: it around it. It's prominently got a shop on Pontoby

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Speaker 3: Road and stuff like that. Anyway, Cactus Outdoor has signed

1731
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 3: a deal with the Italian civil engineering firm Gala to

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01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 3: make jackets for the global workforce. It's like six thousand

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01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 3: staff that these people employ, and they employ them in

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01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 3: our part of the world here in Ocean Yannia, also

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01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 3: in Europe and the Americas, in East Asia and stuff

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01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 3: like that. Anyway, the reason that the Italians have signed

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01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 3: with Cactus, they're down here at the moment in Auckland

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01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 3: dealing with the central Interceptor, which is the Pooh pipes

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01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. And while they hear they saw

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01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 3: the Cactus gear and they thought, hey, this stuff's actually

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01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 3: really good, so they decided to order it for all

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Speaker 3: of their stuff. Cactus won't say how much the deal

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01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 3: is worth, but good on them for signing a deal

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01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 3: like that, because that can't be half bad. A because

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01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 3: if you have a look, I don't know, I've never

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01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 3: bought any Cactus scare, I've never worn any Cactus scare,

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01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 3: but I walked past that shop a lot, and I

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01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 3: actually always think that stuff looks pretty good. Looks hardy,

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01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 3: it looks cool, it looks like something you'd be proud

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Speaker 3: to wear. So good on them for doing that. Now

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01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 3: six twenty five, Greater Wellington Regional Council is really not

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01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 3: happy with something that the Transport Minister Simeon Brown said

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Speaker 3: on Mike's Show this morning. Samon was talking about you.

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01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 3: You were a cool because we talked about the sula

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01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 3: and the show ourselves earlier this week. NZTA has sent

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01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 3: this letter to count and told the councils they need

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01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 3: to charge people more for catching the bus or the

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01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 3: train or whatever. Do something clever to make some more money,

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01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 3: like increase advertising or increased sponsorship, corporate fair schemes, rent

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01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,560
Speaker 3: out spaces and train stations, do whatever to make some

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01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 3: dollars in order to be able to basically not rely

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01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 3: so much on the government and rates to pay for it.

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01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 3: But then Simeon said, to be honest, I don't think

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01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: they've tried, and it's a very lazy approach to just say, well,

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01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 3: the only thing we've got here is we have to

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01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 3: increase fares. Well, Darren Ponter a Greater Wellington Regional Council

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Speaker 3: is not having that. He says advertising is not realistic

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Speaker 3: in terms of bringing money in, because they've already doubled

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Speaker 3: how much they bring in from advertising in Wellington and

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Speaker 3: that's still only two point one million dollars And even

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01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 3: if they double it again, it's going to take years

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01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 3: and it won't raise all that much anyway. And so

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Speaker 3: he's called for an urgent meeting with Transport Minister Simeon

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Speaker 3: Brown to talk about this. But listen, tell me if

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01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. But I feel like Simeon may have a

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01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,879
Speaker 3: fair point here because when I look at the buses

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Speaker 3: going down well I to be fair, I don't live

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Speaker 3: in Wellington anymore. But they're just yellow, aren't they. I

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01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 3: don't recall all that much advertising on them?

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Speaker 2: Am I am?

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Speaker 3: I just missing? Have they ramped up the advertising lately?

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01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 3: And are they're making lots of money? Bus shelters is like,

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01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 3: you could go hard? Can you heap advertising and inside

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01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 3: and stuff? I feel like maybe they could try a

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01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 3: little harder, But maybe I'm wrong. We'll see how that

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01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 3: meeting goes. I'm quite keen to see how this one

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Speaker 3: plays out. Peter lewis with us shortly in headlines next

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Speaker 3: to step.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's Macro micro or just playing economics. It's all

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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with hither duple c Allen and

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Speaker 1: my HR. The HR solution for busy SMEs U stalks

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Speaker 1: it be.

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Speaker 2: I'm fully.

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Speaker 16: Maybe for the first time.

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Speaker 3: Hey, a couple of days ago, Kay Oliver was on

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Speaker 3: us out of the UK and I'd ask her what

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01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 3: the secret to the success was for that one hundred

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01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 3: and twelve year old who just died the other day.

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Speaker 3: She's done some research for us, so she's going to

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Speaker 3: tell us. So if you're thinking, like, you know what

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Speaker 3: I need a life goal of reaching one hundred and twelve,

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01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 3: we might have the answer for you shortly, really quickly.

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Speaker 3: There are some anger at Google Maps in India because

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Speaker 3: three men have died. They drove off a bridge. Now

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Speaker 3: what happened is that and they were obviously using the

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Speaker 3: Google Maps when they drove off the bridge. Now what

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01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 3: happened is a part of the bridge had collapsed earlier

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01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 3: this year has had some flooding, and the locals knew

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Speaker 3: it and so they didn't use the bridge. But Google

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Speaker 3: Maps were still using the bridge. So it took these

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Speaker 3: three men who were not locals, over the bridge and

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Speaker 3: then they went off the other side and Unfortunately it

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Speaker 3: ended fatally and people are now very angry about this,

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Speaker 3: and in fact, the authorities have charged a bunch of people,

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Speaker 3: I think some roading authorities, and I'll explain why in

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01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 3: just a minute, but also named an official from Google

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Speaker 3: Maps in the police complaint on charges of culpable homicide.

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Speaker 3: And the part of the reason probably is that they've

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Speaker 3: reached the end of their ten in India with this

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01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, because it's not the first time it's happened.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, a guy drowned after he drove

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Speaker 3: his car into a dam using Google Maps, and then

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01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 3: last year two doctors in a different state died after

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Speaker 3: they drove their car into a river using Google Maps.

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Speaker 3: Now there is there are also some roading authorities people

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Speaker 3: who've been charged, mainly because I would imagine that there

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Speaker 3: were no barricades or signboards indicating that the bridge was broken,

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Speaker 3: and maybe they're in trouble for that. And I don't

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Speaker 3: know about you, but I would say that's probably a

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Speaker 3: bigger problem than the Google Maps. What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Twenty three away from seven Heather Doopers La Peter Lewis

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Speaker 3: Asia Business correspondence with US Now he Peter good eaveing Heather,

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Speaker 3: are we taking this threat of tariff' from Donald Trump seriously?

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Speaker 24: Yes, China certainly is. He's threatening to add another ten

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Speaker 24: percent on top of any existing tariffs on Chinese goods.

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Speaker 24: This was part of his announcements the other day where

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Speaker 24: he also slapped his talking about slapping tarots on Canada

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Speaker 24: and Mexico. It could be a negotiating tactic, for sure,

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01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 24: but also it could be exactly what he intends to

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Speaker 24: do on day one. He has the authority to do it.

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Speaker 24: He can just sign an executive order, and it could

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Speaker 24: be a warning about what might happen on the first day.

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Speaker 24: What is interesting about this, and also unusual compared to

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Speaker 24: his first term, is that when he put tarots on

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01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 24: Chinese goods the first time around, it was all about

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01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 24: two things. It's about reducing China's trade surplus with the US,

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01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 24: and it was about protecting American jobs. Well, this time,

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Speaker 24: in his post on truth Social he mentioned nothing at

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Speaker 24: all about the trade deficit with China or jobs. This

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Speaker 24: is about two different things now. It's about curtailing the

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Speaker 24: supply of drugs, and it's also about reducing illegal immigration,

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Speaker 24: where it's hard to know what China can do about them.

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Speaker 24: Certainly can't do anything about illegal immigration into into the US.

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Speaker 24: And on the drugs problem, the fentanyl problem, This has

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Speaker 24: really been one of the successes that the Biden administration

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Speaker 24: has had with China. They have cooperated on this for

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Speaker 24: quite a while now and have had success in reducing

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Speaker 24: the supply of that. So it's very hard to know

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Speaker 24: what China can do, but it will carry on when

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Speaker 24: it has been doing so far, which is that it's

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Speaker 24: preparing for the arrival of Trump. It's presuming that there

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Speaker 24: are going to be tariffs, that they will have an

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Speaker 24: economic impact. I mean, economists reckon that's ten percent. Tariffs

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Speaker 24: will reduce exports from China to the US by about

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Speaker 24: fifteen percent, and that will knock about half a percent

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Speaker 24: off of GDP. China's preparing for that. It's looking for

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Speaker 24: new markets, new export markets. President Ji Jinping was in

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Speaker 24: Latin America just recently building up Birchrade relationships with countries

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Speaker 24: around there. So I think, you know, we're already seeing

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Speaker 24: what their response is going to.

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Speaker 2: Be to this.

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Speaker 3: How big is the drug trade from China going over

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Speaker 3: the American border?

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Speaker 24: Well, this is the thing, I mean no, one's quite sure.

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Speaker 24: I mean that Donald Trump recons that a lot of

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01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 24: it comes from China, and that he has said in

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Speaker 24: the past that China does it deliberately to try and

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Speaker 24: destabilize the United States. Now I doubt that that is true.

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Speaker 24: But fentanyl comes not just from China. I mean Mexico.

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Speaker 24: You know, probably the biggest supply. It comes from just

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Speaker 24: over the southern border in Mexico rather than China. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 24: I mean, Bejigimping has been cooperative on this, and he

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Speaker 24: has bordered officials to work with the Biden administration to

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Speaker 24: try and make sure that they stop any flow of

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Speaker 24: this from from China.

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Speaker 5: Going on to going on to the US.

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Speaker 3: Peter Listen, I see China's industrial profits have dropped by

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Speaker 3: ten percent. How stressed out are people about this?

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Speaker 24: Well, it's I mean, on the one hand, it's not

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Speaker 24: bad news because the previous month it was down about

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Speaker 24: twenty seven percent, so it is a slowdown for the

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Speaker 24: previous month. What it shows is that China's economy is

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Speaker 24: still struggling. And you know these what this measures is

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01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 24: basically the profits of the big manufacturing, mining firms in China.

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Speaker 24: They are struggling to make money despite the increase in exports,

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Speaker 24: partly because of deflation, prices are going down, so that's

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Speaker 24: hurting their earnings. And also the slump in the property

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Speaker 24: market is still ongoing, and a lot of the profits

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Speaker 24: from industrial companies come from supplying products to China's property sector,

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Speaker 24: and that's really been in a slump for about four

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01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 24: years now and shows no sign of covering. So this

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01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 24: really shows that despite all the stimulus that we've seen

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01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,480
Speaker 24: in the last two or three months from the Chinese authorities,

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Speaker 24: it is really struggling to get through and make a

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Speaker 24: big difference to China's China's economy.

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Speaker 3: Peter, thank you for running us through. We can talk

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01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 3: to you next week. Look after yourself. That's Peter Lewis,

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Speaker 3: our Asia business correspond based out of Hong Kong. Here

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Speaker 3: that those three chaps could have been saved if we

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01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 3: just shared the untold number of orange cones laying about.

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Speaker 3: It's a fair point. Maybe if we just send some

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Speaker 3: of our orange cones to parts of the developed world,

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Speaker 3: it will help them out with that Black Friday. Today,

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Speaker 3: I've lifted as long as possible to discuss Black Friday

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Speaker 3: because I thought I just thought maybe if we get

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Speaker 3: the shops closed, then I'm not going to be driving

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01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 3: you towards Black Friday. And I feel like most of

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Speaker 3: the shops will be closed now. Undoubtedly there'll be some

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01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 3: mall that's kept everything open late so that you can

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01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 3: still Russian spender cash on stuff you don't need. Not

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01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,719
Speaker 3: everyone is loving it. There is a Kiwi perfume company

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01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 3: called Abel Fragrance. They hate Black Friday so much, which

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01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 3: is kind of weird for a retailer, you'd have to say,

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01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 3: but they hate it so much they've actually shut down

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Speaker 3: their website today in protest. This is the seventh year

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Speaker 3: in a row that they've done it. They think Black

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Speaker 3: Friday is toxic, and they say the reason it's toxic

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Speaker 3: is because basically it just promotes consumerism, which again, like

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Speaker 3: is kind of surprising from a retailer, But you know,

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Speaker 3: they've got principles and stuff. They can people just buy

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Speaker 3: things they don't want. All need eats into the retailers, margins,

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Speaker 3: eats into the brand margins, and they can stand against

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Speaker 3: behavior like this. And if you want to buy their perfume,

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Speaker 3: you can go tomorrow. You could have gone yesterday, but

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Speaker 3: you can't go today seventeen Away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Everything from smest the Big Corporates, The Business Hour with

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Speaker 1: Heather duplicls and my HR the HR Solution for busy

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Speaker 1: SMEs on News talksb.

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Speaker 3: Hey, just going back to what I was telling you

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Speaker 3: about the public transport, Heather, here's the problem with public transport.

1941
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Speaker 3: Two point one million dollars is not an insignificant amount

1942
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 3: of money, and doubling it is a great deal of money. Also,

1943
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 3: this is every year, ten years, forty million dollars. I

1944
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 3: would sack a manager who said that two point one

1945
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 3: million dollars was not a lot of money. Dave makes

1946
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 3: a very good point. Hey, here's something good about us

1947
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 3: that's happened today is that we are now the third

1948
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 3: most desirable place to visit in the world. This is

1949
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 3: according to wonder Lust, which is a long running UK

1950
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 3: travel publication, and actually not that bad. It's not one

1951
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 3: of those ones that just make stuff up. It's well,

1952
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it does, but to some extent this

1953
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 3: is a survey of people. What's a survey of a

1954
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 3: reasonable number of people though, to be fair, and it's

1955
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 3: one of those ones people actually pay attention to. Anyway,

1956
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Speaker 3: here we go, Number one, Australia number two, Canada number three,

1957
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Speaker 3: Japan number four, New Zealand, then Costa Rica, South Africa, Brazil,

1958
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Speaker 3: South Korea, Peru. What We're even better if you break

1959
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 3: it down into category. So if you look at the

1960
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 3: most desirable country for adventure, we are number one. Costa

1961
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 3: Rica is the most desirable country for sustainability. I don't

1962
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 3: understand that. I don't know how that works. Germany for

1963
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 3: culture and heritage, South Africa for wildlife and nature, and

1964
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Speaker 3: France for gastronomy. So there you go. It's thirteen away

1965
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Speaker 3: from seven and with us now is Kay Oliver Ore

1966
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Speaker 3: UK correspondent, Hello, okay, Hello to Heather, Okay, give me

1967
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Speaker 3: the immigration numbers because that.

1968
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Speaker 2: Off the charts well.

1969
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, Now this is an extraordinary vision of the government estimates.

1970
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Speaker 12: But if the growth that we currently have continues, we're

1971
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Speaker 12: going to have fifteen new cities the size of Birmingham

1972
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:58,480
Speaker 12: by twenty forty six. Now, the Opposite of National Statistics

1973
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 12: has released these figures showing up staggering nine hundred thousand

1974
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 12: people were added to the UK's population for the year

1975
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 12: ending June twenty twenty three. That's twenty two percent higher

1976
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 12: than the original numbers, which in itself was an all

1977
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 12: time high. So we've got to secure Starmer, the new

1978
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 12: Labor Prime Minister basically accusing the previous Tory government of

1979
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 12: using Brexit to pursue an open borders experiment. And this

1980
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 12: latest study has shown, for example, that you've got places

1981
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Speaker 12: like Middlesbrough with a population that was standing at around

1982
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 12: one hundred and fifty thousand, they've had a four point

1983
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 12: four percent increase in just that particular area alone. So

1984
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Speaker 12: you've now kind of got more in depth breakdowns of

1985
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 12: where everyone's heading to.

1986
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Speaker 3: So is this actually immigration that's been pursued by the

1987
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Speaker 3: government or was it sort of just arrived on your doorstep.

1988
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Speaker 12: Well, I think there's a bit of both of this

1989
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 12: going on head that this is the big question. I mean,

1990
01:31:56,840 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 12: some of this obviously is legitimate immigration into the country,

1991
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 12: and then you've also got this more uncontrolled immigration going on.

1992
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 12: We've got these boats coming in, but now a lot

1993
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 12: of these people are kind of genuine people who've come

1994
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 12: in and they've been the families of carers, people working

1995
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 12: in the National Health Service, and they've actually been allowed

1996
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 12: to come in as long as they've made the hit

1997
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 12: the criteria of earning a certain amount of money and

1998
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 12: bringing something into this country. But it would seem that

1999
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Speaker 12: if it carries on, this is an absolute population explosion.

2000
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, How does chep the former British soldier Daniel

2001
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 3: Khalif sounds like an absolute numpty, doesn't he?

2002
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 12: Well, he is the chap who escaped from the category

2003
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 12: b ones, who has prison by tying himself with old

2004
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 12: inmates trousers. He managed to make a sling and got

2005
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 12: himself on the underside of a food delivery lorry last September.

2006
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 12: He was on the run for three days. He has

2007
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 12: finally gone to court and now he's been found guilty.

2008
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 12: He's twenty three years of age. By the way, former soldier,

2009
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 12: he has been fund guilty of handing in for including

2010
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 12: a list of soldiers, some of whom were serving in

2011
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 12: the sas to Iranian spies. Now jury has rejected his

2012
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 12: claim that he was actually undertaking a one man double

2013
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 12: agent mission. His own lawyer said it was more more

2014
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 12: like Scooby Doo than James Bond. So we wait to

2015
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Speaker 12: see what sentence is going to be given out to him.

2016
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 3: All right, you have done the research on how this

2017
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 3: chip got to live to one hundred and twelve. What

2018
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 3: have you got?

2019
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,759
Speaker 12: Well, I did, because today is Friday and it seems

2020
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 12: that John dennisaur did love his fish and chips. So

2021
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 12: that's what he was. That's what kept him going for

2022
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 12: one hundred and twelve years. I mean, he was born

2023
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 12: the same year that the Titanic sank. And apparently he

2024
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 12: was also a lifelong fan of Liverpool, Liverpool Football Club.

2025
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 12: So as I said to you, he loved his music.

2026
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: So there we go.

2027
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 12: The secret to long life.

2028
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 3: So football, music and fish and chips.

2029
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 12: Absolutely, you got it.

2030
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 5: I can go.

2031
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 3: I can get on board with that. Thank you for that, Kay,

2032
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 3: I appreciate it's k our Uk correspondent on the rugby

2033
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 3: given that it's Friday and you know, so we we're

2034
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 3: heading into the sport, you're heading into Darcy's show. I

2035
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 3: need to get you up to date on this. Okay,

2036
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 3: fascinating peace about Joe Schmidt in the papers today and

2037
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 3: how detail oriented this guy is. Now, I reckon this

2038
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,560
Speaker 3: might be the people who've trained under him. Reckon, this

2039
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 3: is the key to his success. In the end, it

2040
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 3: became something of a problem because there were a lot

2041
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 3: of people who played for him, like Rory Best, who

2042
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,640
Speaker 3: was a former captain and stuff, said it became too

2043
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 3: much too much to play under Under Joe, it was

2044
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 3: just too much detail, not enough trust. And there are

2045
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 3: other players like a prop Andrew Porter, who said it

2046
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 3: just became far too stressful and he'd freak out while

2047
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 3: he was heading into training because Joe was so detail oriented.

2048
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 3: It really wasn't pleasant anymore. But apparently what not. Everybody

2049
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 3: hated it, and some of the players actually credit Joe's

2050
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 3: level of detail with taking Ireland from a team that

2051
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 3: was performing inconsistently but occasionally great, to just being consistently

2052
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 3: great and beat us on the regular and stuff like that. Apparently,

2053
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 3: what he would make them do is he'd make them

2054
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 3: do so much study, so much video analysis of what

2055
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 3: they were doing and what the opposition were doing, and

2056
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 3: just understand they would know everything that there was to

2057
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 3: know that. They would even know what ball a carry,

2058
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 3: what baller player would carry with, and what foot they

2059
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 3: would favor stepping off with. Isn't that fascinating? Like they

2060
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 3: would be able to They would watch so much of

2061
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 3: an opposition player, for example, studying the All Blacks, that

2062
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 3: if they saw Wallace a Titi pick up the ball.

2063
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 3: They would already know that he's going to go first

2064
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 3: with his right foot and off he goes. If that's

2065
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 3: what he does anyway, that is what makes that is

2066
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 3: apparently what brings what Joe brings to the coaching. Not

2067
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 3: everybody loves it, but you know what, that's the cost

2068
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 3: of being great, isn't it? Made away from seven getting

2069
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 3: ready for.

2070
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 2: A new administration in the US. What will be the impact?

2071
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 1: It's the Business Hour with hither duplicy Allen and my HR.

2072
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: The HR solution for busy SMEs news talks'd be.

2073
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Cactuskar is great here the New Zealand made

2074
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 3: not cheap but lasts and last, and their canvas down

2075
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 3: jackets are a great piece of cat along with their

2076
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 3: work trousers. They do the repairs as well, so that

2077
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 3: you go. I didn't actually realize they will work here.

2078
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 3: I thought it was something that you could wear like

2079
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 3: just you know around the place. You know, maybe you

2080
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 3: can still maybe maybe sometimes you wear work gear around

2081
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 3: the place and you still look cool. Now, because Drake

2082
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 3: is coming to New Zealand, you need to know that

2083
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 3: this has happened this week. Okay, So Drake and Kendrick

2084
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 3: Lamar have been having this this battle between themselves as

2085
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 3: a parent. It's like a rappers war, and it's escalated

2086
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 3: now with Drake now launching legal action against his own

2087
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 3: music label Universal Because I don't know if you remember,

2088
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 3: but Kenrick Lamar put a discs they call it a

2089
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 3: dis track, put a disc track out about Drake. It's

2090
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 3: called not Like Us, and it did really well.

2091
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 6: This is it.

2092
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 2: They not like us, They not like us.

2093
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 5: They not like us, They not like us, they not

2094
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 5: like last they not I know.

2095
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 3: What you're thinking, how on did that do well? I know,

2096
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,640
Speaker 3: but at said that it's actually a good song, but

2097
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 3: that that's the only thing.

2098
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not a hip hop guy, but like the

2099
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 8: verses are really well put together. It's just they use

2100
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 8: lots and lots of naughty words. So unfortunately, being news talks,

2101
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 8: they'd be We're in an awkward position when we've got

2102
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 8: something that's in the news like this, but we can't

2103
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 8: really play it without breaking.

2104
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 3: So the rest of the song is awesome, But all

2105
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 3: he can give us is the crap bit they not

2106
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 3: like us, not like us, they not like us, not

2107
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 3: like us, They're not like us.

2108
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: They're not like us.

2109
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 3: Anyway. So yes, you can tell. It's so simple. I've

2110
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,640
Speaker 3: already got onto it anyway. So what happened is that

2111
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 3: Drake record that was Kendrick Lamarch Okay, that was the

2112
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 3: that was the dis track. Now Drake reckons that Universal

2113
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 3: got Spotify to help make sure that the song did

2114
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 3: really well, because it cut its royalty rates for the

2115
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 3: song by thirty thirty percent in exchange for Spotify recommending

2116
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 3: it to users. And then it also paid people twenty

2117
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 3: five hundred US dollars to set up software bots that

2118
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 3: would then stream the song on repeat so it become

2119
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 3: a crazy hit. And then also Universal fired staff loyal

2120
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 3: to Drake. Universal says it's untrue, but they're gonna have

2121
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 3: to poney up because it's going to court by the

2122
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 3: looks of things. Well anyway, they've got some tapers filed.

2123
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 8: And oh this is great.

2124
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 24: I see.

2125
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 8: This is the other thing where Andrew Gordy was talking

2126
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 8: before about how great it is when rugby players actually

2127
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 8: have something to say. This is what hypop stars should

2128
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 8: be doing. They should be going at each other and

2129
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 8: doing lawsuits and giving us a storyline.

2130
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely better than that crappy music.

2131
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 8: And this is slightly less crappy, Drake and Rihanna take

2132
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 8: care because you're right. The big music news today the

2133
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 8: fact that Drake is going to be playing two shows

2134
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 8: in New Zealand. They're both at Auckland Spark Arena, so

2135
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 8: you will have to get yourself to Auckland February twenty

2136
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 8: eighth and March first next year, so not too far away.

2137
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 3: Actually, what are you playing here?

2138
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 7: Take care?

2139
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 8: Rihanna and Drake, come on.

2140
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 7: This is a nice beat as well.

2141
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 3: Oh no, cow, yeah no, that's heaps better. It's when

2142
01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 3: the ladies come and that's heaps better. It's like when

2143
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 3: the ladies sailed the ship. Nothing bad happens. Same same

2144
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 3: if the ladies didn't musical Little Ladies sailorship. See ya

2145
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 3: on Monday.

2146
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 2: If you love me, here's what I'll do.

2147
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 3: I'll take care of you.

2148
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 22: I love enough.

2149
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 2: For more From Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to

2150
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 2: news talks.

2151
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,160
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