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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. The Mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed to intrigue

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Speaker 2: That'd been nodding and Welcome today, The Coppers on This

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Speaker 2: Boy Racer crackdown the good and bad news around our

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Speaker 2: black economy, The Prime Minister on pay equity, social media

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Speaker 2: bands and the agree to Disagree trigger around the Guns

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Speaker 2: from Act Lads in the commentary Box, Richard Arnold at America,

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Speaker 2: Steve Price in the Market of Australia. Hosky Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the day. Seven past six. Didn't seem to be the

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Speaker 2: sort of game we're expecting, did it. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: dragons aren't at our end of the table. We started well,

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Speaker 2: led well, went to the halftime well. By the end

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Speaker 2: of it we scraped by with the droppy. The dragons

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Speaker 2: sort of reminded me I thought, there for a moment

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Speaker 2: with the Warriors of old, did you think that poor start?

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Speaker 2: Then scored a few excellent points in a could we

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Speaker 2: come back from here kind of way? Get even. They're

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Speaker 2: named for a last gasp clincher that, as it turns out,

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Speaker 2: wasn't to be. How many times have we been there

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Speaker 2: over the years, but that was then and this is now.

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Speaker 2: And when you're on a roll, and when you as

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Speaker 2: a side have taken the next step, things turn out differently.

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Speaker 2: The droppies work, you escape on the right side of

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Speaker 2: the ledger, You reinforce your growing reputation that you are

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Speaker 2: one of the best sides in the competition. And so

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Speaker 2: we march on. Who is it, I ask you that

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Speaker 2: can beat us? I mean, with the bulldogs go in

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Speaker 2: hot favorites these days, or merely regular favorites, or maybe

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Speaker 2: even Stevens. Could we be tipped up by a sidelight

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Speaker 2: the dragons who come out of nowhere? Mentally? Can we

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Speaker 2: keep up this relentless professionalism and consistency. Will we get

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Speaker 2: even better when everyone's back fully fit? Could we get

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Speaker 2: to the top of the table before the end of

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Speaker 2: the season. Is it too early to ask whether we

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Speaker 2: can win the table before heading to the playoffs? Playoffs

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Speaker 2: at home in front of sell out crowds. Is it

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Speaker 2: too early in the season to ask those sort of

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Speaker 2: questions to build that sort of hope or are those

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Speaker 2: sort of questions more than justified now and realistic based

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Speaker 2: on what we've done so far? Eight from ten records

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Speaker 2: now being broken each and every week. Next up the dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Are they whether we are on the table, well, don't

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Speaker 2: even close. We're a genuine second two points off being

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Speaker 2: the top. I am increasingly confident in saying, is how.

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Speaker 1: You news of the world in ninety seconds?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Where are we at with the war? Putin wants to

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Speaker 2: talk Keiths Kimblestium.

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Speaker 4: Despite everything we propose, the kre of authorities resume the

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Speaker 4: negotiations they interrupted at the end of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 4: to resume direct negotiations, and I emphasize, without any preconditions, Ukraine,

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Speaker 4: thanks for this dalling.

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Speaker 3: We are ready to find a way of how to

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Speaker 3: stop our people.

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Speaker 4: From being killed.

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Speaker 5: But right now we haven't seen Russia's ability to stop

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Speaker 5: the war, and it's right now seemed just that they

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Speaker 5: are trying to end.

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Speaker 2: Sometime the new Pope's decided to have a word about that.

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Speaker 5: He said, I too address the world's great powers by

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Speaker 5: repeating the ever present call never again.

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Speaker 6: War, My pure la guerra.

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Speaker 2: Oh the crowd, and we're watching that left it up.

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Speaker 7: It's a thrill to be here in order to pray

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Speaker 7: for the Holy Father to be with the crowd that's

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Speaker 7: recording here.

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Speaker 8: With our prayers, the people will turn to free and

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Speaker 8: he will really put all people, migrants, everybody to number one.

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Speaker 2: Then in Britain, massive call from the Home Secretary on rest,

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Speaker 2: homes and immigration.

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Speaker 5: We need to go much further.

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Speaker 2: That's what the plan is about.

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Speaker 5: It's about restoring control and order. It's about preventing this

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Speaker 5: chaotic system where we had overseas recruitment saw while training

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Speaker 5: in the UK was cut.

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Speaker 2: Reform who polled these days well, they can do no wrong.

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Speaker 2: Basically they're having a piece of this.

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Speaker 6: People want this issues sorted, they want the boats to stop,

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Speaker 6: and frankly, I think the majority of this country agree

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Speaker 6: with our policy. We need to freeze immigration. People want

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Speaker 6: foreign criminals who have committed crimes removed first stop.

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Speaker 2: Finally, on the science file, the Exprise Health Spend, which

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Speaker 2: is a sivin year project to develop a way for

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Speaker 2: humans to rejuvenate muscles, cognition and immune functions, is announcing

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Speaker 2: the semifinalists this week. We've got a thousand entries, groups

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Speaker 2: and individuals doing various pieces of research. Eventually the winner

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Speaker 2: will be named by twenty thirty. The new prize the've

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Speaker 2: announced this morning as well. The prize is one hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy million dollars to go to whatever's needed to

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Speaker 2: make their project. The reality. Winning team must be able

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Speaker 2: to show that they'll be able to restore a fifty

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Speaker 2: to an eighty year old by between ten and twenty years, so,

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Speaker 2: in other words, an eighty year old to one hundred,

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Speaker 2: be able to scale up, roll out their idea within

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Speaker 2: twelve months, make it accessible to as many people as

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Speaker 2: cheaply and easily as possible. Apart from that, it's easy.

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Speaker 2: News of the world in ninety we have World Peace Monday.

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Speaker 2: What's going on here? For goodness sake, we might have

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Speaker 2: peace talks by Thursday in Turkey between face to face

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Speaker 2: Putin v Zelenski, we appear to have a deal between

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Speaker 2: the US and China. Bes since come out and goes,

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to report that we've made substantial progress between

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Speaker 2: the US and China in very important trade talks. This

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Speaker 2: has been happening in Switzerland, the representative. US Representative Jamison

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Speaker 2: Greer said an agreement had been reached. We await details

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Speaker 2: twelve pas.

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Speaker 2: While we're on a theme, and I think it's good news.

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Speaker 2: Experts out of China jumped eight point one percent last month.

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Speaker 2: That'll have something to do with the tariffs, and there

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Speaker 2: is some talk about going through third countries and all

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Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But the rightest poll of so

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Speaker 2: called experts thought the number would be one point nine.

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Speaker 2: So at eight point one, we'll take that, won't we

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Speaker 2: fifteen past? It's a gust of leving Deven Funds Management.

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Speaker 2: Greg Smith is with us this month morning to Mike.

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Speaker 2: Are we bullish about these trade talks?

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Speaker 3: I think we're cautiously optimistic. That's a bit of euphemism,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. But yeah, it seems like there's been some

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Speaker 3: progress since the first major meeting, but we'll first meeting

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Speaker 3: really at all between the USE and China since there's

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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty five percent posed and there's been

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Speaker 3: see de escalations? Well, there's I suppose some of the

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Speaker 3: chat coming out of me, as you mentioned, is quite positive.

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Speaker 3: I mean Trump said great progress was being made over

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Speaker 3: the weekend. You've had Treasury Sexuary Scott bes and said

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Speaker 3: substantial progress has been made, so Greas also claimed that

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Speaker 3: for that. There, we went high hopes going to the meeting.

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Speaker 3: Beston said it was more about sort of call in

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Speaker 3: tensions rather than getting a comprehensive deal, and Trump himself

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Speaker 3: had cided be keen on Lauren Tarras, but to around

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Speaker 3: eighty percent, so that still still seems rather high. So

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Speaker 3: we'll have to see what comes out of it. You

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Speaker 3: mentioned those trade flows, certainly they've been impacted. You look

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Speaker 3: at container bookings headed to the US from China, they

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Speaker 3: down thirty to fifty percent since Liberation Day a memohis

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Speaker 3: you point out we had that data over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: So China's trade balance ninety six point two billion last month,

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Speaker 3: that was up from seventy two a year ago, and

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Speaker 3: smash forecasts for only nine billions the experts, did you say,

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Speaker 3: up eight percent? And the stuff going to other countries

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Speaker 3: US down twenty one percent, the Southeast Asian nations up

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Speaker 3: six percent as well, so you must think China have

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Speaker 3: got the more negotiating power. But we'll see what comes

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Speaker 3: in terms of the devil in the detail later today.

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Speaker 2: And then we got British Airways proving that you can

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Speaker 2: in fact run on airline and make quite quite some dollars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, pears to be going pretty well.

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Speaker 3: So this year is brushs iag are up just over

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Speaker 3: Travel to the US softer, but everywhere else going pretty well.

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Speaker 3: And then the other sailient point was that they said

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Speaker 3: they've ordered a fifty three wide bodied aircraft from Boeing

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Speaker 3: and the of US and then deals with almost thirteen

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Speaker 3: billion that was of course flagged by the White House

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Speaker 3: last week. And then trade the announcement with the UK

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Speaker 3: has been secured as substantial discounts. There's been in a

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Speaker 3: bit of incentive there, but you're going pretty well. Revenues

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Speaker 3: up ten percent, travel demand strong Latin America, Europe, but

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Speaker 3: and fat was down twelve percent in April, so they're

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Speaker 3: out some cost of America. One clear benefit as well

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Speaker 3: of Trump's trade policies is the oil price. It's the

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Speaker 3: Well, this is on the other side of the course,

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Speaker 3: so aill companies are seeing obviously not doing so well

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Speaker 3: sort of take over BP probably would make sense in

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Speaker 3: It's got lots of highly prized sets, Golf of Mexico

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Speaker 3: and the light. They did try and have a tilt

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Speaker 3: They've got new mentionments sort of put sort of eradicating

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Speaker 3: so it would seem to make sense the use company

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Speaker 3: rather see shall do that. But it would be hard,

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Speaker 3: I think for ks Sue to say that Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: so you stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what are the numbers there?

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Speaker 3: Down point three percent for one to two four nine

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Speaker 3: NASDAK was flat foots the up point three percent, Nickay

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Speaker 14: No, I do think we can achieve this, and I

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Speaker 14: important for us to say this is too hard Mike,

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Speaker 14: this is personal to me. You know, these guys do

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Speaker 14: Look, I've also got some concerns about the Australian model

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Speaker 2: Are All I know is what I've read, and I

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Speaker 2: It's just not technically possible.

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Speaker 14: And I've got friends in very high will used to

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Speaker 13: No I get that.

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Speaker 14: There have been other there are other countries around the

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 13: I do?

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Speaker 14: I do and like I say, this is too important.

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Speaker 14: We have to shift societal norms on this digital stuff

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Speaker 3: It's worth it.

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Speaker 2: Back to Friday's announcement, you're on a no when here

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Speaker 14: I know because I've spoken to many survivors who will

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Speaker 2: Review o Golden visas immigration. That was my headache last

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Speaker 14: It's not anti Chinese at all.

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Speaker 15: It's what it is.

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Speaker 14: The previous labor government put these in place as well.

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Speaker 14: It's saying that if you have to repatriate your money mandatorily,

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Speaker 2: Social Media Minister eighteen to seven.

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Speaker 11: Skiing.

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Speaker 1: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News.

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Speaker 2: Talksp Erica makes a point. Google have agreed to pay

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Speaker 2: nearly one point four billion billion to the state of Texas.

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Speaker 2: This is announce date of the weekend allegations of violating

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Speaker 2: the data privacy rights of the state's residents, the age

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Speaker 2: to sue them, sue them. In twenty two unlawfully tracking

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Speaker 2: and collecting private data abusers got another settlement another time

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Speaker 2: of one point four billion covers delegations of two separate lawsuits,

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Speaker 2: dwarfed all the past settlements by other states. The years,

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Speaker 2: Google secretly tracked people's movements, private searchers, and even their voice,

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Speaker 2: prints and facial geometry through their products and services. I

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Speaker 2: see nothing in the report that does the usual and

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Speaker 2: we we don't admit to any level of guilt, but

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Speaker 2: just have one point four billion dollars worth of our

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Speaker 2: money because we feel bad about ourselves six forty.

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Speaker 1: Five International correspondence with endsit Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business side.

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Speaker 2: Richard, A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 15: Good you make well.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the trade we are we set to

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Speaker 2: go on this What do we know.

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Speaker 16: Well, yous negotiators? The trade talk sessions with Chinese reps,

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Speaker 16: those talks taking place of the last couple of days

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Speaker 16: in sweatlands and touting what they say are advances towards

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Speaker 16: a possible trade agreement. Scott Basant, the Treasury Secretary, was

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Speaker 16: one of those who was involved in those talks.

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Speaker 8: Happing the reports that we meet substantial progress between the

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Speaker 8: Name States and China and the very Portland tread top.

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Speaker 16: He says they'll be giving more details tomorrow, so we'll see.

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Speaker 16: The trade deal with the UK last week turned out

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Speaker 16: to be a little less than advertised, unless you're in

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Speaker 16: the market for rolls Royce where the tariffs were cut right. Meantime,

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Speaker 16: should a six hundred and seventy million New Zealand dollar

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Speaker 16: gift of a jet described as a palace of the

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Speaker 16: sky be regarded as a bribe If that luxury jet

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Speaker 16: is given by the Cutty Royal family for use of

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Speaker 16: the President of the United States Donald Trump. That is

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Speaker 16: the question here, as the gift of this jet with

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Speaker 16: Trump favored golden decorations is expected to be formally announced

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Speaker 16: this week. For years, Trump has been frustrated by his

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Speaker 16: standard of air travel. His own jet, which he calls

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Speaker 16: Trump Was One, was a jumbo Jety bought in twenty

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Speaker 16: eleven that dates from about nineteen ninety and once was

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Speaker 16: used by Microsoft's co founder Paul Allen at a presidential jet,

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Speaker 16: known of course as Air Force One. Actually there's two

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Speaker 16: different planes, again dating from the early nineteen nineties and

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Speaker 16: equipped with anti missile defenses and so on. Boeing was

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Speaker 16: given the task of building a new Air Force one,

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Speaker 16: but delays have meant it will not be ready around

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Speaker 16: twenty twenty nine, so after Trump's second term. So Countas

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Speaker 16: Royals have agreed to supply a new jet as Air

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Speaker 16: Force one for the United States, and Trump surveyed the

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Speaker 16: plane recently in Florida. To be used as Air Force one,

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Speaker 16: of course has to be retrofitted with the air defenses,

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Speaker 16: but that already has been arranged to seem. So here's

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Speaker 16: the thing US Constitution says in what is known as

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Speaker 16: the Emodument's clause. There's a prohibition not a president from

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Speaker 16: accepting gifts from any king, prince, or foreign state, quote unquote. However,

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Speaker 16: Trump's Attorney General Pambondi says, this gift of the Golden

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Speaker 16: jet is just fine because it will be given to

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Speaker 16: the US Air Force, not to Trump personally, even though

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Speaker 16: I was president of courses for Trump's use. Then here's

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Speaker 16: another twist. Once Trump leaves office, the jet will be

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Speaker 16: passed over to the Trump Presidential Library for use by

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Speaker 16: you know who. So the argument is that Trump isn't

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Speaker 16: getting personal use from this. It's going to a library

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Speaker 16: and to the US Air Force, So they are you

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Speaker 16: it can't be seen as a bribe or as any

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Speaker 16: anything unconstitutional. Now, some will know that when Ronald Reagan

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Speaker 16: left office, the old Air Force one from his time

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Speaker 16: went to the Reagan Presidential Library here, but Reagan didn't

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Speaker 16: fly in the thing at that point. It was simply

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Speaker 16: put on display at the library. Not quite the same,

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Speaker 16: it seems, as with the Trump super luxury jet. Now

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Speaker 16: this is storing a back Nash Already, one Democrat calling

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Speaker 16: it bribery in broad daylight, while Congressman Jamie Raskin, a Democrat, says, quote,

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Speaker 16: a gift you use four years and then deposit to

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Speaker 16: your library is still a gift and a grift in quote. Meantime,

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Speaker 16: Trump heads out tomorrow on his first foreign trip second term,

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Speaker 16: where he'll visit the Saudiast, the UAE.

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Speaker 17: And Cutter.

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Speaker 16: The Washington Post says business deals, not geopolitics, seem to

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Speaker 16: be the focus. The Trump organization, run by Trump's eldest sons,

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Speaker 16: just did a deal in Cutter for a five point

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Speaker 16: five billion US dollar golf course and beachfront development. So sorry, Garza,

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Speaker 16: where are we at with the war? Well holding point?

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Speaker 16: The Russian attacks on you Cine have been toned down

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Speaker 16: while Chinese present. She is visiting Moscow as the Russian

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Speaker 16: and Chinese leaders are watching that World War two victory celebration,

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Speaker 16: including large numbers of goose stepping Russian soldiers. Putin didn't

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Speaker 16: want anything to disrupt that occasion, so three days ceasefire.

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Speaker 16: At his behest this for Trump has questioned where the

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Speaker 16: Russian the Russian leader really wants to make a deal

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Speaker 16: on ending his war in Ukraine. Trump is urging both

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Speaker 16: sites to meet in Turkey this week for talks Lensky

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Speaker 16: demanding to cease fire to start tomorrow before any agreement

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Speaker 16: on direct talks. Putin rejecting an initial ceasefire and proposing

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Speaker 16: instead direct talks to start on May the sixteenth, your

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Speaker 16: time in istanborl and the leaders of Britain, trans Germany

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Speaker 16: and Poland visited Ukraine this weekend and they set a

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Speaker 16: deadline for tomorrow for Russia to accept a thirty day

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Speaker 16: ceasefire or face additional sanctions. And they say they spoke

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Speaker 16: with Trump about this as well. The Trump team has

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Speaker 16: indicated it would impose additional sanctions on Russia if Putin

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Speaker 16: doesn't agree to a truce. So Trump says, this is

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Speaker 16: the time when, or we'll know with greater clarity if

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Speaker 16: we don't already just working.

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Speaker 2: Stand all right, see Wednesday. Appreciate it. Richard Arnold stateside,

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Speaker 2: by the way, the most significant thing I think he

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Speaker 2: did over the weekend, and he didn't do it, they

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Speaker 2: sort of hinted he might do it, is he's actively

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Speaker 2: looking at suspending Haby's corpus, which is of course the

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Speaker 2: right to challenge a person's detention by the government so

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Speaker 2: they can round you up. The constitution is clear and

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Speaker 2: that of course, is the supreme law of the land

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Speaker 2: that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can

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Speaker 2: be suspended in time of invasion. So he's going to argue,

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Speaker 2: as we're being invaded, and we can round you up,

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Speaker 2: and we can pack you on the plane and send

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Speaker 2: you to Libya or somewhere else, and you can't complain

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Speaker 2: about it. So we watched that one with a great deal.

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Speaker 1: Element was nine to seven the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: the Range Rover Villa News Tokstead be anything over.

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Speaker 2: The weekend and reading about the tax rate in America.

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Speaker 2: Trump is actually wanting to put up the top tax

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Speaker 2: rate for the richest individuals from thirty seven to thirty

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Speaker 2: nine points six, which is sort of ironic because it

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Speaker 2: was him that lowered it to thirty seven when he

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Speaker 2: was last and offers back in twenty seventeen that law

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Speaker 2: buyers in twenty twenty five as in this year. It

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Speaker 2: needs congressional support. He doesn't have it. But it just

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Speaker 2: got me looking at what they pay for tax in

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Speaker 2: America and at veries state by state, of course, but

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Speaker 2: the federal side of the equation. We remember at our

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Speaker 2: top tax rate is thirty nine cents on anything above

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty grand in America. At that sort

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Speaker 2: of level, if you're inning one hundred and eighty issue,

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Speaker 2: you're paying thirty two, not thirty nine. At above two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty, you're paying thirty five. At six hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty six, you're paying thirty seven. So even if

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Speaker 2: you're inning well in excess of half a million dollars

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Speaker 2: a year, you're still paying well under our top tax

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Speaker 2: rate at one hundred and eighty thousand dollars. And you

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Speaker 2: wonder why we got no money five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fiz with

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Speaker 1: business favor. Take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, the amount of tax going unpaid and

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Speaker 2: the property sector is going up. So this is in

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Speaker 2: nan revenue sector failed to pay at least one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty million in the first nine months. That's up

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Speaker 2: last year considering the unpaid tax bill for the whole

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Speaker 2: year was one hundred and fifty three. So we're one

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Speaker 2: fifty and just the verse nine versus one fifty three

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Speaker 2: for the whole of last year. Developers, property investors, other

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Speaker 2: people caught up in the Brightline. Business developers make up

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Speaker 2: the biggest percentage seventy three million discrepancies, forty eight percent

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Speaker 2: increase on last year. Discrepancies on the bright Line is

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Speaker 2: fourteen mil, which is up nine percent. IRD found almost

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Speaker 2: sixty million in discrepancies from those trying to get around

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Speaker 2: paying GST. That's up thirty nine percent on last year.

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Speaker 2: It's the tough times, of course, and the top at

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Speaker 2: the time for people, you know, bring Brian their account

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Speaker 2: and say can you work can we have a work around? Brian?

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Speaker 2: Is what you is what you say, Mike. Imagine if

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Speaker 2: we had ten Erica Stanford. She gave you direct an

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Speaker 2: informative answer on everything you threw it. The interesting thing

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Speaker 2: about the immigration thing especially, is all I wanted on

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Speaker 2: that Chinese thing. Now don't like her answer or don't

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Speaker 2: like her answer. She gave an answer, and so here's

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Speaker 2: the problem with her office. We rang her office on

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Speaker 2: this very thing last week and we said, this Chinese

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Speaker 2: allegation is at anti Chinese the Golden visa. And instead

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Speaker 2: of going look, I'll get you an answer, they said,

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Speaker 2: ring immigration. So that's what we did. And in ringing

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Speaker 2: immigration we went through and I mentioned it briefly on Friday,

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Speaker 2: we went through the usual rigmarole of will take nineteen

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Speaker 2: days to do nothing and then come back to you,

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Speaker 2: and there'll be sixteen hundred emails involved, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: come back with a three page answer, which basically some

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Speaker 2: of which I read out on Friday. It says nothing

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Speaker 2: you hurt. Her answer, we don't want your money. If

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Speaker 2: that's the sort of person you are, we don't want

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Speaker 2: your money. That was the answer, Like it or not.

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Speaker 2: It took about three and a half seconds. The thing

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Speaker 2: about the amount of money in the average government department

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Speaker 2: and a number of people involved. When you ask a

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Speaker 2: basic question and you can't get a basic answer back.

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Speaker 2: Coppers on crushing cars. Have a look at this after

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Speaker 2: the news, which is next.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

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Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way News togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: Only seven past seven. Other crackdown on the boy raised

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Speaker 2: his presumptive sentences are coming, meaning automatic crushing more powerful

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Speaker 2: the police to monitor and those areas like roads you

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Speaker 2: pinged if you run or fail to identify Assistant police

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Speaker 2: commissioned Mike Johnson with us. Mike, Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How real is the boy raise a problem? Or is

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Speaker 2: this just a Sunday headline for a government?

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Speaker 15: No, not at all. Our staff are seeing this most

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Speaker 15: weekends or every other weekend around the country. You do

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Speaker 15: read about it gathers a lot of a lot of attention.

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Speaker 15: I suppose we had a lot of calls about it.

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Speaker 15: It disturbs the public, and there is absolutely a safety

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Speaker 15: aspect to this.

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Speaker 2: Is this hard core or just a collection of buffoons

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Speaker 2: who were bored and if you told them not to

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Speaker 2: do it again, they probably wouldn't.

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Speaker 13: Mike.

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Speaker 15: I think that's a very good question. It's a mixture

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Speaker 15: of both. We certainly see hardcore organized events which react

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Speaker 15: badly as the way I'll put it, or illegally when

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Speaker 15: our staff turn up and look to disperse them.

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Speaker 2: Is it a laws in other words, you're getting what

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Speaker 2: you want? Or is it a resource thing even if

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Speaker 2: you had the laws, you don't have the people.

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Speaker 15: No, we believe we can do this with the people

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Speaker 15: we've got. We're already sending staff and to these events

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Speaker 15: in sufficient numbers. We're always looking to plan. But the

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Speaker 15: nature of these things is the people organizing them are

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Speaker 15: trying to keep them out of our eye so that

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Speaker 15: we can't organize a response.

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Speaker 2: So that was my next question. How much of what

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Speaker 2: you do is anticipatory versus you having to go afterwards

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Speaker 2: and clean up because you didn't know.

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Speaker 15: It's a mix of both. When we hear about these,

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Speaker 15: we attend obviously, and they usually Friday Saturday nights to

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Speaker 15: be honest, or public holidays, as we've seen in a

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Speaker 15: number that have been advertised. Get where we're aware of them,

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Speaker 15: we put an operation into effect. We had one of

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Speaker 15: those last weekend in the belly and wire wrapper, which

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Speaker 15: was particularly effective. But we try to get on the

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Speaker 15: front foot mic as you'd expect, but there's times where

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Speaker 15: we've got to react and.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people texting Section one twenty nine of

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Speaker 2: the sentencing actors. The problem it's not you guys rounding

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Speaker 2: them up, it's the judges letting them out. Is that fair?

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Speaker 15: Look at that's a matter for the courts were Really,

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Speaker 15: what I can say is we are please to have

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Speaker 15: some more tools than the toolkit to deal with this

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Speaker 15: issue that's growing from our to speak.

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Speaker 2: Of good stuff, go well with it. Mike Johnson, who's

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Speaker 2: the Assistant Police Commissioner nine minutes past seven. I'm a

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Speaker 2: bit of moving over the weekend on the war. As

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Speaker 2: yet again the Coalition of the Willing, which includes us,

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Speaker 2: gathered literally or by zoom to reinforce their view that

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Speaker 2: we need some peace talks and a cease fire for Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: So is this thing actually going anywhere? Geu Gia political

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Speaker 2: analyst Jeffrey Miller's back with us on this. Jeffrey morning

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 13: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: This thing Turkey Thursday, Zelensky putin your Reckinian.

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Speaker 13: If it's real, Look, it could be a huge day

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Speaker 13: on Thursday. So this was letting me Prutin's counter offer.

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Speaker 13: After being faced with this ultimatum of agreeing to a

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Speaker 13: thirty day cease fire by today, Putin proposed a direct

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Speaker 13: talks between Russia and Ukraine and standbul on Thursday. Then Trump,

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Speaker 13: just in the last few hours has come in and

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Speaker 13: told Ukraine to accept that, and volot of Mezelenski has

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Speaker 13: said he will and he will go there personally. And

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Speaker 13: that is really an ace card on his part because

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Speaker 13: there was no suggestion by Vladimir Putin that he would

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Speaker 13: be there in person. But now he kind of has

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Speaker 13: to respond, so we could see a face to face

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Speaker 13: meeting between Vladimir Putin and vlot of Messalinski and as

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Speaker 13: symbol on Thursday would be quite extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: Think can putin tune up and just go here I am,

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Crimea is mine. The stuff I've

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Speaker 2: got currently is mine, as Donald's already told you, take

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Speaker 2: it or leave it.

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Speaker 13: Look, there'll be a lot of twists and turns until

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Speaker 13: this war is finally over. And I don't think the

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Speaker 13: talks are going to be over in a day. Is

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Speaker 13: going to take longer than that. But I think it's

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Speaker 13: absolutely necessary. We absolutely need talks. The only way you're

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Speaker 13: going to get through get an end to this war

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Speaker 13: is through dialogue, diplomacy, de escalation. And I think it's

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Speaker 13: great news really that this is in the offering. I mean,

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Speaker 13: we wait and see whether it latchally materialize, because there's

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Speaker 13: still the chance that a Zelenski and the others will

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Speaker 13: will back away in a sense because they won't get

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Speaker 13: the thirty day seas fire. Because I think it's very

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Speaker 13: unlikely that Vladimir Putin is going to going to do that,

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Speaker 13: that he isn't actually going to lay down his arms

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Speaker 13: and agree.

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Speaker 2: With that, which puts you back in the American court.

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Speaker 2: Do they that point, go, Look, we've done all weekend.

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Speaker 2: You guys don't want to play ball. Don't worry, We're gone.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that they will step back or not?

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Speaker 13: Look, Donald Trump has the final say here. We've seen

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Speaker 13: that in the in the past few hours. He told

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Speaker 13: Vladim me Zelenski to go to these talks, and Zilensky

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Speaker 13: is in some ways cave But also I think he's

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Speaker 13: been smarter than that by saying he will go there

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Speaker 13: personally and expecting Pertin to do the same. So in

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Speaker 13: the end, Donald Trump is calling the shots here. And

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Speaker 13: that's always been the case, despite the unity by these

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Speaker 13: European leaders and the coalition of the winning which includes

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Speaker 13: New Zealand and Kes Starmer name check New zer as

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Speaker 13: much reporters. So, but Donald Trump in the end is

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Speaker 13: always the man who everyone is looking to here. And

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Speaker 13: it's really Donald Trump's game, and he's playing it, and

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Speaker 13: he's playing in a very different way to everyone else.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the other war just quickly. Trump's into

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Speaker 2: the Middle East this week and he's touted some sort

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Speaker 2: of announcement like you've never heard an announcement. Whippy, do

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Speaker 2: do you have any idea what that is? And we're

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Speaker 2: going to get to any tangible progress you think this

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Speaker 2: week on it or not.

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Speaker 13: Well, the talk is that he will recognize the Palestinian

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Speaker 13: state that's been denied, but I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 13: it will be a significant visit this week. It's his

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Speaker 13: first major foreign trip. Of course, Donald Trump went to

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Speaker 13: the Probe's funeral, Pope France's funeral, but it will be

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Speaker 13: his first major foreign trip again to the Gulf, just

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Speaker 13: like he did back in twenty seventeen. Was his first

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Speaker 13: major trip and that was a significant one. So you know,

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Speaker 13: we shouldn't forget all of it. We've got all of

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Speaker 13: these conflicts going on around us. We had India and

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Speaker 13: Pakistan seemingly resolved over the weekend with a ceasefire, and

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Speaker 13: we've got the course to the Middle East on the

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Speaker 13: agenda as well. So there are awful lot of balls

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Speaker 13: in the air hand, Mike, and we desiciperately need solutions

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Speaker 13: to all of them. I think Donald Trump's unconventional approach

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Speaker 13: to diplomacy it can bear fruit, and we're prep seeing

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Speaker 13: that with what's happened over the last few hours with Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Well the types of Jeffrey, go well, appreciate your expertise,

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Speaker 2: International geopolitical analyst, Jeffrey Miller, thirteen past seven. Pascal u Wish,

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Speaker 2: also over the weekend, has confirmed they've got a new

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Speaker 2: system where will be implementing a new system of providing

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Speaker 2: humanitarian aid to the Palestinians. They're going to do it

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Speaker 2: through private companies. This, of course has ripped the ninety

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Speaker 2: of the United Nations. They will not be cooperating. It

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Speaker 2: appears to weaponize aid, which I'm not sure is technically true,

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Speaker 2: But what it does do is show that the inadequacy, ineffectiveness,

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Speaker 2: and hopelessness of the UN, if this works from the

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Speaker 2: US point of view, has been found out.

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Speaker 13: Mike.

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Speaker 2: The boy racer thing isn't out of control. It's about

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Speaker 2: the same as it's always been. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: you based that on, and it's a good time for

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Speaker 2: politics to pick it up and make a change.

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Speaker 9: Mike.

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Speaker 2: While boy racers are pain in the ass, they don't

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Speaker 2: cause the same damage to society as p does. I

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Speaker 2: think we'd all agree with that. Fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard by News talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be Prime min is for about fifteen minutes away

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Speaker 2: in the studio from Truth Social just a couple of

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Speaker 2: moments ago. My next truth, says Donald Trump. My next

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Speaker 2: truth will be one of the most important and impactful

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Speaker 2: I've ever issued in joy. So we stand by for that.

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Speaker 2: It'll have something to do with the Middle East. We

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Speaker 2: can only but guess, but we'll well as soon as

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Speaker 2: we know. You know, it turns out black market, our

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Speaker 2: black market is the ninth smallest in the world. What

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Speaker 2: does that actually mean? This comes from the World Bank.

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Speaker 2: It tells us the hidden economy costs US around thirteen

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Speaker 2: billions a year in unseen taxes, which is about eleven

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Speaker 2: or twelve percent of our GDP independent tax ex But

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Speaker 2: jeff Nightingale back with us, Jeffrey, good morning, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: It's a big number, but not a bad number. What

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Speaker 2: do we make of it is about what you thought

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Speaker 2: it might be. Does anyone have a clue?

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Speaker 18: No, we don't really test it in New Zealand, so

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Speaker 18: that the World Bank modeling is about as best as

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Speaker 18: good as we can get. But I'd be surprised if

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Speaker 18: it was that big. I think it's significant, but you know,

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Speaker 18: we've got a pretty good tax system. Most taxes collected

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Speaker 18: at source when we pay wages and when we pay

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Speaker 18: interest and dividends. So there is definitely a cash or

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Speaker 18: a black economy, but I'd be surprised was quite as

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Speaker 18: big as as the World Bank is predicted.

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Speaker 2: And this takes in gangs as well as people going

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Speaker 2: just fix that for me and I'll give you fifty

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Speaker 2: bucks cash.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, there's three issues. There's the caches that we all know.

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Speaker 18: There is organized crime and the process of crime which

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Speaker 18: are run as sort of the business enterprises and outside

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Speaker 18: the system. And then third issue is sort of under

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Speaker 18: reported income, so income that doesn't get reported by someone

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Speaker 18: that's in the system, or expenses that are overclaimed, and

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Speaker 18: those three things add up to the tax gap.

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Speaker 2: If you like that last one. The IID seemed to

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Speaker 2: be moving on. These numbers are over the last couple

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Speaker 2: of days about people involved in investment, property and developers

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So something's happened with an IRD

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Speaker 2: and they're working a little bit harder than they have.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair?

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Speaker 18: That's absolutely true. So two things have happened. One is

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Speaker 18: post very kind of relaxed approach to get us through

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Speaker 18: COVID inland revenue, have tightened enforcement and so they're doing

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Speaker 18: projects in construction, hospitality, property. And the second thing that's

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Speaker 18: happened is they both have the technology now and the

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Speaker 18: funding to go after large data sets. So they are

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Speaker 18: matching up Almost everything we do these days is electronic

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Speaker 18: and they are matching up those data sets with tax

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Speaker 18: returns and they're collecting, reasoning the significant amounts of revenue

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Speaker 18: from that.

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Speaker 2: Are we doing about as good as we can? There's

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Speaker 2: always going to be a black economy, isn't.

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Speaker 11: There There is?

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Speaker 13: There is.

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Speaker 18: I think we're doing about as good as we can.

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Speaker 18: I think, you know, there's always room to do a

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Speaker 18: bit more. And the point about a collecting is not

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Speaker 18: so much to get more tax into that and make

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Speaker 18: government bigger. It's about keeping the tax rates on those

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Speaker 18: people in the system as low as possible.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, mate, Appreciate your expertise as always. Jeb

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Speaker 2: ninth and Gale, independent tax expert. For what it's worth,

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Speaker 2: the top twenty ish, as far as I can work out,

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Speaker 2: are all within a margin. The best in the world

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Speaker 2: appears to be at seven point nine percent of GDP. Switzerland.

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Speaker 2: The States is second, maybe that's a surprise to you

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Speaker 2: given their reliance on cash. China at eight do we

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Speaker 2: believe that Japan at ten point two? We come in

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Speaker 2: as I say, at ninth eleven point two, were just

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Speaker 2: ahead of the UK at eleven point seven, Australia at

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Speaker 2: twelve point six. There is Dodge, yes, but we knew

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Speaker 2: that Ireland thirteen point two. And you go out to

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Speaker 2: somewhere like Saudi Arabia at fourteen point seven, but none

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Speaker 2: of them are you know, seventy percent seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: just what is it that Tama potark has been doing

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00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: for a year and a half. I mean, how many

894
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: times have you heard me ask the Prime Minister on

895
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Speaker 2: a Monday, when's the why tangy decision going to be made?

896
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: What is potarka doing with this activist tribunal? You've heard

897
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: me say that over and over. Well, Friday, we've got

898
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: the arts. He's going to have a review. I thought,

899
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: that's what he's been doing. That's why I thought we've

900
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: been waiting so long. The impatience I was showing and

901
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 2: asking the Prime Minister is not when's he announcing a review?

902
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: It's when is the government snipping the wings of the

903
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: taxpayer funded activists that have lived well past their use

904
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: by date. The Tribunal was set up, if you can

905
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: believe it, fifty years ago, to settle historic grievances. They have,

906
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: to a large extent done that. The fact that some

907
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: remain outstanding is an indictment on the people who haven't

908
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: settled and various governments who have refused to put deadlines

909
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Speaker 2: in place. But the majority of the intent of the

910
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: Tribunal's over. Having ticked that box, they saw a future

911
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: in a lot more money and a lot more work,

912
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: offering increasingly radical views for anyone who was bored and

913
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: angry and wanted to take a case so they could

914
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Speaker 2: get a judgment to beat the government of the day

915
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Speaker 2: over the head. With this current government, perceived by the

916
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: aggrieved as particularly nasty, have kept the Tribunal flat out,

917
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: filing complaints and receiving damning reports. None of it means

918
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: anything because the tribunal has no real legal standing. None

919
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: of this is complex for goodness sake, Yet Otaka has

920
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 2: been sitting there doing lord knows what to finally muster

921
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: up a press release on a Friday to tell us

922
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: it long, long, long, long, long, long last. He's going

923
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Speaker 2: to get a couple of people to wander off for

924
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: a few months and come back with an opinion the

925
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: government wants so they can do what they should have

926
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Speaker 2: done all along, which is call a holt to a circus.

927
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: Once again, we remind you, no small amount of the

928
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: support that got this government to power was predicated on

929
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: the idea that enough was enough. On the mari over

930
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: each front, delivery has been painfully slow. Po Tarker has

931
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: been dragging the chain. Is it possible part of the

932
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: reason this government has failed to fire more than it

933
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: has is simply because their talk was a lot more

934
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: attractive than their action. Passing Yes, Mike, I'm a parent

935
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Speaker 2: of too active outdoor kids, but would very much welcome

936
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: a ban. It's just too addictive and they see so

937
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: much rubbish. I'm sure this is where the escalation of

938
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: the bad behavior and crime stems from. In my opinion, Kate,

939
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: you're correct, but I believe you are. And I go back.

940
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: Katie and I are been talking about this over the weekend.

941
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Speaker 2: When we were pairingarranting active younger children. There was no

942
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: social media until there were sixteen, and when they were sixteen,

943
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: it was private accounts only, and there were phones and

944
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: bowls every night, and there were phones and bowls on holiday,

945
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: and there were endless hours and restrictions and things they

946
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: could and they couldn't do. And we were hated, and

947
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: we were hated by our children, and we were hated

948
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: by our children's friends, and we were questioned severely by

949
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: other parents who were going, I don't know how you

950
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Speaker 2: do what you do. It's too difficult. I know I

951
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: couldn't do that, and we said things like, wait, give

952
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: it a go.

953
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 12: Then those people needed a phone bowl exactly.

954
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: We had a bowl. We had a phone bowl. And

955
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: tell you what, and I look back now at that,

956
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: and I defend it with an element of pride. Wasn't

957
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: particularly enjoyable at the time.

958
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 12: I mean, their deep seated resentment of yours ongoing obviously.

959
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I can't pinpoint that to the phone rules

960
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: as opposed to any other rules. So I don't know anyway,

961
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: we'll talk to the Prime Minister about this and other

962
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: matters and including of course the Waitangi tribunal. Here's with

963
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: us and then we'll do this. If you didn't see

964
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: the supercars, the last was yesterday in Tasmania with Matt

965
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: payer Tell you what Matt Payne is the real deal.

966
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: It was a race for the ages. Anyway, more Sport

967
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: after Way after the news, which is next? He read

968
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: news talks.

969
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: He'd been your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and

970
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: honored facts. The Mike Hosking breakfast with the range rover

971
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: villa designed to intrigue and use talks dead by.

972
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: Three minutes away from eight Sport up the way, of course.

973
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Speaker 2: Meantime for a Monday morning, the Prime Minister was with

974
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: us A Christopher lux very good morning to you. Were

975
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: we part of the coalition of a willing phone call

976
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: over the weekend? Yeah?

977
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 6: I was.

978
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 7: I spoke with those leaders over a video conference on

979
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 7: Saturday night, very late Saturday night.

980
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: Are you bullish on anything that may or may not

981
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 2: happen this week?

982
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 7: Well, look, I mean what we agreed on that call

983
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 7: is that we want to see a thirty day cease

984
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 7: fire implemented from Monday, and that's got to be without conditions,

985
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 7: and it's across land, sea and air. And really now

986
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 7: it's the bulls in Russia's court because we can put

987
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 7: an immediate cease fire in place and start conversations and negotiations.

988
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 7: But it's very simple.

989
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: It looks to me like that stalling.

990
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 7: And the question is they started this war, the are

991
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 7: the ones that can finish it, and Putin just needs

992
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 7: to show up and actually agree to that ceasefire and

993
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 7: then get into the negotiations. So you know, that's why

994
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 7: we are very you know, we're saying there's now a

995
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 7: plan and a proposal. Thirty day seas fire unconditional starts

996
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 7: on Monday. The Americans have been behind it, the European

997
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 7: leaders are all united in it. I joined the Corps

998
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 7: with Australia and Canada as well spoke to that particular

999
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 7: point as well. And then if Russia doesn't show up,

1000
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 7: then we've got to apply more sanctions and we've got

1001
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 7: to continue to stand with Ukraine.

1002
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: All right before I forget no, it just sort of

1003
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: re China in the US if they cut some sort

1004
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 2: of deal, and the US and the UK have cut

1005
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: some sort of deal and the UK gets some products

1006
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: into America teriff free. We have been lumped with ten

1007
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: percent universal. Would we change our mind on trying to

1008
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: do something about that because we're materially then worse off

1009
00:46:59,280 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: than we were.

1010
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, we don't want to be any worse off than

1011
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 7: anybody else.

1012
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: I mean, the.

1013
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 7: Reality is the Brits actually had tariffs that were above

1014
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 7: ten percent on cars as you know, and steal them.

1015
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: But they can get Rolls Royce in there for zero.

1016
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 2: So if they're getting other stuff in for zero and

1017
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: we're not getting stuff in for zero, we're losing, aren't we.

1018
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 7: Well, we've got our officials and they've had them in

1019
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 7: there before the announcement of tariffs. Tod mcclay's got another

1020
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 7: trade meeting coming up with his trade representative who has

1021
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 7: equivalent essentially coming up at an APEC meeting very shortly

1022
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 7: next month. So we continue to make the case for

1023
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 7: why tariffs applied to New Zealand don't make sense.

1024
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: But equally, when you talk to our exporters.

1025
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 7: Actually many of them, and I spoke to a few

1026
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 7: last week again are actually saying, look, this is a

1027
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 7: big market, three hundred and seventy million people. There's lots

1028
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 7: of wealthy consumers in that market, and if we've got

1029
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 7: premium products and services we want to sell to them,

1030
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 7: we should keep targeted those very very closely, and so

1031
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 7: we'll monitor it, we keep the engagement high, but importantly

1032
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 7: we just get on with the business and actually make

1033
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 7: sure we're no worse off than anyone else, and.

1034
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: Then act agree to disagree. Where does this go from here?

1035
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 7: On the guns, look, I mean on firearms, my position

1036
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 7: is pretty clearly. We want to make sure we're enhancing

1037
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 7: public safety. I've said that time and time again. We

1038
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 7: think the registry has been effective at that and particularly

1039
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 7: if you think about straw man sales going to gangs

1040
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 7: and criminals, that's been good. We're living in an MMP world,

1041
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 7: as I said from day one.

1042
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: They feel differently about that.

1043
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 7: The Cabinet didn't support the proposal that went through and

1044
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 7: the way that they wanted it to go, and so

1045
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 7: we're very pragmatic. We have an agree to disagree where

1046
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 7: they can.

1047
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: And that's just like it's done. Yes, it's done.

1048
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 7: So the cabinet decision is the cabinet decision. They didn't

1049
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 7: agree with that, and we gave them an agreed to

1050
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 7: disagreeable well on.

1051
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: The subjects of ACT social media. So you've seen Erica Stamford.

1052
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: Is she the only talented person you've got in the room? Now,

1053
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: I mean, how come she does everything?

1054
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 13: I mean?

1055
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: For goodness? So look and just back up the truck

1056
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: of that where she's got immigration education, she's doing the

1057
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: victims of abuse, and now you're telling her to wonder

1058
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: often solve social media problems.

1059
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 7: Now, her and I have very aligned on the social

1060
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 7: media piece that she's got a lot of passon about.

1061
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 7: Just think about what the work Nicola Willis is doing

1062
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 7: to clean up an ungodly mess that we inherited.

1063
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: Think about what bishops Your bishop's busy?

1064
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 7: What about what about you know, Sam and Brown, Martin

1065
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 7: Mitchell on police?

1066
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: Give it only policemency. I mean, let's look, I'm not

1067
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, don't you have any What I'm asking though?

1068
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: With ACT and social media? If they don't agree, what

1069
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: are you going to do? Numbers wise? Well, again, we'll.

1070
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 7: Work at They've sort of started to shift their position

1071
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 7: a little bit on the weekend, which is good. So

1072
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 7: let's just see where we get to with them. There

1073
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 7: might still be a pathway through all of that. But

1074
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 7: let's let's see and if not, we'll continue to reach

1075
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 7: out to other parties as well.

1076
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: So you go with labor, we'll look to try and

1077
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: go with labor.

1078
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean to me, Mike, it's not actually a

1079
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 7: political issue whose parents you know, the kids, which parties

1080
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 7: their parents vote for is irrelevant. This is actually something

1081
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 7: where our parents and our principles and teachers saying, look, it's.

1082
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: Out of control.

1083
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 7: We have controls in the physical world, but we don't

1084
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 7: have any in the virtual online world.

1085
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 3: Yep. It's hard, as you've highlighted over the course.

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Speaker 7: Of the week in terms of implementation, but cheap as

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Speaker 7: I mean, I had people telling me the phone band

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Speaker 7: was going to be impossible to implement and behole. We

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Speaker 7: found a way through. So yeah, it's more complex than that,

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Speaker 7: no doubt about it. But actually you've got to believe

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Speaker 7: in this day and age, we can find a way

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Speaker 7: through that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you've seeming answered my question. I would argue,

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Speaker 2: not not because I don't agree with you, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know anyone who's done what you're looking to do.

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Speaker 2: Do you know something we don't technically speak, Well, there.

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Speaker 7: Is technology being tried, for example, in Australia about how

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Speaker 7: you do age verification. Now you've got the EU, the UK,

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Speaker 7: the US, States, Canada all looking at the same piece

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Speaker 7: of work, and some much more developed than us. We're

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Speaker 7: probably a bit fast following rather than leading on this.

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Speaker 2: And you know that's what I've asked Eric to do,

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Speaker 2: is go away, look at.

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Speaker 7: All the jurisdictions, get something pragmatic and practical in place

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Speaker 7: for New Zealand, and let's take that bill to cabinet,

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Speaker 7: make a cabinet.

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Speaker 2: Decision that we can. It was a little bit about

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Speaker 2: this you being the bad guy, like the school phone band.

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Speaker 2: In other words, so parents can go look the government

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Speaker 2: told us that you've got to be sixteen and that'll do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Look, I think it was interesting learning from the phone band.

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Speaker 7: You know, for about two or three weeks I had

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Speaker 7: principles coming out against it, and unions and everybody and

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Speaker 7: some parents. But actually at the end of the day

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Speaker 7: now when you talk to the parents, the teachers, the principles,

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Speaker 7: they're actually quite grateful we took control because they were

1118
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Speaker 7: out of control. And I think that's sort of criticism,

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Speaker 7: it's just the reality of it. It's too overwhelming, and

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Speaker 7: so by us stepping in and being the bad guys,

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Speaker 7: I think and just said, that's the that's the setup.

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Speaker 7: It just gave clarity to everybody. And I think it's

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Speaker 7: the same kind of challenge we've got here as well.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the incidence is Mike of you know, the

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Speaker 7: cyber bullying and New Zealand is huge. We've seen a

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Speaker 7: big decrease of that with the phone band. You know,

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Speaker 7: the balls are going through freaking glass windows again, which

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Speaker 7: is great because kids are actually talking to each other

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Speaker 7: face to face.

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Speaker 2: Novel idea. Okay, you're at the tourism thing last week. Yeah,

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00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: you made your announcement. I told you about that, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not the only one. I told you about the

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Speaker 2: thing you announced months and months ago. Too slow.

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Speaker 7: No, isn't it great that we listened to you?

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Speaker 2: And no, it's not about that. It's about pulling every

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Speaker 2: lever you can to get people back into the country.

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00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: But slow, slow, slow, slow.

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Speaker 7: I just say, I think when you've seen a twenty

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Speaker 7: three percent growth and tourism expenditure in the last twelve

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Speaker 7: months and it's accelerating in the last three to three

1141
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 7: to six months, that's been pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 7: And the good thing about that conference, Mike, to be honest,

1144
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Speaker 7: is I walked those stalls and spoke to each of you.

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Speaker 2: Know, many of those individuals. They were really up there.

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Speaker 2: We had four and in last week you said the

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Speaker 2: same thing that he was seeing some increasing amount of

1148
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: out confidence. So you would argue, but here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: What came out of that conference. The headline that came

1150
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: out of the conference is quote unquote the new normal.

1151
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 2: Eighty six percent of where we were is the new normal. Apparently,

1152
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: what sort of attitudes is that? No, that's not right.

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00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: That's not the attitude at all.

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Speaker 7: We want to see. We want to restore to pre

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00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 7: COVID levels fast. You're seeing markets like India in the

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Speaker 7: US that are well ahead of where they were pre COVID.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 7: The Australians are coming on song pretty quickly. I think

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Speaker 7: they're up to ninety five percent. We've got challenges with

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Speaker 7: the Chinese, as we've talked about. That's but the other

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00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 7: the Indians are up, you know, one hundred and thirty percent.

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Speaker 7: When I was in India, I had a big tourism

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00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 7: event up there and we had a record number of

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00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 7: buyers from the travel industry India come down to this

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00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 7: trends event, thirty two of them from memory and it

1166
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 7: was great. They really turned on to it. So we've

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Speaker 7: just got to get to China and make the case

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Speaker 7: again for tourism.

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Speaker 2: So in making the case in China, is that because

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Speaker 2: they don't want to come here or they can't afford

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Speaker 2: to come.

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Speaker 7: To be really honest, I think in that six year

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00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 7: period where we were very myopicant and we're looking and

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00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 7: our foreign ministers and our trade ministers and our promises

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00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 7: didn't go into Southeast Asia or Northeast Asia or China

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Speaker 7: or in the Inn Pacific, we actually lost share of

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Speaker 7: mind within China. And so it's an awareness story that

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Speaker 7: we have to unpack again in there. It's a big market.

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Speaker 7: There's still big seams of wealthy people that can still

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Speaker 7: come to New Zealand from China and a market of

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Speaker 7: one and a half billion people, and so we just

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Speaker 7: have to do a better marketing sales job of actually

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Speaker 7: making the case for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Tama Potiker, this is on me. I assumed he

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00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: was out there doing a review on the tribunal Why

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Speaker 2: Tangi Tribunal and then on Friday, he comes out and announces,

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Speaker 2: after a year and a half of doing lord knows what,

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00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: we're suddenly going to have a review.

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Speaker 7: What it's got to do all day and the process organized.

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Speaker 7: He's off to do the engagement by the middle of

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Speaker 7: the year. He'll have advice back to him by September

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Speaker 7: this year, and then you have two years and to

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Speaker 7: legislative options in place by the end of the year,

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Speaker 7: and then we'll be introduction into the bill early next year.

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Speaker 7: Why wasn't it done day one? Well, there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of other things we had to do. I mean, I

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Speaker 7: know you'd argue that I should have done at day one.

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Speaker 7: You'd argue that should have been doing everything day one.

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Speaker 7: But if I'm boiling the ocean doing everything all at

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Speaker 7: once and not staging or sequencing it, I'm telling you

1201
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Speaker 7: we're not getting anything done.

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Speaker 2: With This review is a review with a view to what.

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00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 7: Well, there's no predetermined outcome here, but what the books? No, No,

1204
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 7: there is a need for us to actually say what

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Speaker 7: the way something.

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Speaker 2: If you've got no view, why are you reviewing?

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Speaker 13: Then?

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00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 7: No, what I'm saying is we are there's no predetermined outcome,

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Speaker 7: but the rationale for us changing the role of the

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Speaker 7: White Tongue Trimpunal and.

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Speaker 2: What it is about in the future.

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Speaker 7: It's very very clear, irrespective whether you're on any side

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Speaker 7: of that debate. Go look at Chris fin Layson's book

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Speaker 7: and a post Treaty Settlement world, which we've got through

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Speaker 7: the last vast majority of it. You've got to ask

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Speaker 7: the question, what is the role of the White Tongue

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Speaker 7: Tribunal and what is it and what isn't it going

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Speaker 7: to be going forward? And define it? And that's what

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Speaker 7: I'm expecting him to do. So that's a legitimate question

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Speaker 7: that we can ask and should be asking to find

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Speaker 7: their role going forward.

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Speaker 2: Do you do anything for Mother's Day? Did you do

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Speaker 2: anything nice? Anything?

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Speaker 7: Well, I've got a twenty five and a twenty three

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Speaker 7: year old, so life is. Did they they manage to

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Speaker 7: get Amanda a six racket tennis bag six?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: She's only got two rackets.

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Speaker 7: So I don't quite know what they were thinking, but

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Speaker 7: she seemed to like it, which was exciting. And some

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Speaker 7: special body wash that I'm not allowed to use in

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Speaker 7: the shower now apparently.

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Speaker 3: So that's all I know.

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Speaker 2: So do you have separate body washes.

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Speaker 13: We do we do?

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Speaker 7: You know this loot doesn't come together?

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Speaker 2: Can I give you a tip? We have separate showers?

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Speaker 2: Do you really if we do so? Therefore you can

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Speaker 2: have your own hope you have separate bedrooms. We don't

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Speaker 2: have bedrooms, only separate showers. This has gone on every day.

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Speaker 2: Is Valentine's Day in the hosty house? Exactly right? Well

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Speaker 2: see Advice thirteen Away from eight, The.

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Speaker 1: Hosking first full show podcast on iHeartRadio, The Powered by

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Speaker 1: the News talks at me.

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Speaker 2: I must tell you about our mother's day at our

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00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: place yesterday because it was unusual, to say the least.

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Speaker 2: It ended okay. In fact, it probably ended well, but

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00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 2: that wasn't the story the whole day. I must also

1250
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: alert you to the fact to go to our social

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00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,479
Speaker 2: media and the Prime Minister says he's going to pop

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Speaker 2: it up somewhere today and I wouldn't be surprised in

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Speaker 2: the post cabinet press conference if he raises the photo himself.

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Speaker 2: But we've got a photo this morning with Christapha Luxen

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Speaker 2: and Samuel the producer. Samuel had a bet that he

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Speaker 2: lost that the couple of weeks ago when the Crusaders

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Speaker 2: played the Highlanders. Samuel suggested that the Highlanders would win.

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Speaker 2: Obviously he was on a hiding to nothing, and the

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Speaker 2: score was basically that if the Crusaders won, Samuel would

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Speaker 2: have to wear the Crusaders jersey, which he is now wearing,

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Speaker 2: as provided to us by the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 12: Now, I think they're going cheap this weekend, actually, the

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Speaker 12: Crusaders jerseys.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, it didn't go well.

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Speaker 12: There's not a lot of demand for them, not.

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Speaker 2: As much demand. But anyway, Sam, who backs himself as

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Speaker 2: a bit of a weight lifter and a bit of

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Speaker 2: a body builder, unfortunately is not filling out this jersey particularly.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm surprised by that. It's immediately made him look like.

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Speaker 2: A wimp. Wimp, yeah, yeah, and it's small.

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Speaker 12: I don't think it's I think I think Sam's actually agreed,

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Speaker 12: is that this He's been disappointed at how quickly exactly

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Speaker 12: this one jersey has basically it worked like kryptonitet.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, have a look at the socials and see

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00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: Sam and the Prime Minister. Sam is is the face

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00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: painting off? Because the face painting was going to be

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Speaker 2: a thing, We're not. It was too cruel. The Prime

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Speaker 2: minister was going to be too cruel, which it probably was.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, go to the socials and have a look

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Speaker 2: at the photos.

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Speaker 1: Ate away from eight the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 1: Real Estate News Dogs Dead be.

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Speaker 2: It's the Mother's Day at our house. Yesterday opened reasonably early.

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Speaker 2: It was shortly I think after four am, just a

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Speaker 2: little bit maybe about ten parts four, and I was

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Speaker 2: awoken the words by my wife, can you hear that?

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Speaker 2: At which point I sort of lay there thinking to myself,

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Speaker 2: can I hear what? And I lay there and lay

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Speaker 2: there and lay there, and eventually I concluded there was

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00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: nothing to be hurt at all, so I said, no,

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Speaker 2: I can't And there we lay there quietly for a

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00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: few more minutes until suddenly we went deep and I went,

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00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: oh that, yes, I can hear that. That turned out

1295
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: to be the smoke alarm. So the smoke alarm, which

1296
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Speaker 2: is wired in and I thought didn't need a battery,

1297
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Speaker 2: does have a battery wired and smoke alarms have backup batteries,

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Speaker 2: nine bolt batteries, as it turns out. And I know

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Speaker 2: that because I rang the electrician and I said, what's

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Speaker 2: going on here? And he goes, well, that'll be the

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Speaker 2: nine bolt battery. So anyway, so I've got to replace

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Speaker 2: a nine bolt battery or he will anyway. So we

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Speaker 2: do all of that, and then we normally get up

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Speaker 2: five to five thirty, so at about ten past by

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Speaker 2: a bit earlier because we're tired at this point because

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Speaker 2: we'd waken up at four o'clock. So between five and

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Speaker 2: five thirty. Next thing, I hear this unusual noise, and

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Speaker 2: I hear this noise at the same time, and my

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00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: wife hears the same noise at the same time. It's

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Speaker 2: the dog vomiting. So the dog throws up, at which

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Speaker 2: point we then have to get out of bed. I

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Speaker 2: feel you then go out into a freezing cold morning

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Speaker 2: in the dark to make sure the dog is not

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Speaker 2: going to die of whatever the dog ate when it

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Speaker 2: went on for a walk yesterday. So by about five

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Speaker 2: point thirty were up, still dark, freezing cold on a

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Speaker 2: Mother's Day morning. Fortunately, as I say, things improved from

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00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: there and gifts and lots of love and good times

1319
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: were exchange. But you know, four in the morning on

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Speaker 2: a Sunday, you can do without it, can't you. Let's

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Speaker 2: get into the sport and a couple of moments. He

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Speaker 2: reviews talk said Bill.

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Speaker 1: The news and the news makers, the mic asking, Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial

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Speaker 1: and rural news dogs, dead bes room.

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Speaker 2: It's into.

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Speaker 11: Run come.

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Speaker 17: We've come from five points and we've got them, and

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Speaker 17: we've beat on the drawer b Tea four points to

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Speaker 17: five and that chicks come to christ Church and make

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Speaker 17: a real statement of intense and the Super Rugby competition.

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Speaker 3: Warriors win again.

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Speaker 2: Therefore off the trot.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary barks on the Mike Husking Breakfast

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Seven past eight, Andrew Sevil, Jason Pine, both Wethers Fellows,

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Speaker 2: good morning to you, Good morning. Highlight of the week, Jason, Warriors,

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01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: Warriors winning up to second.

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01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 9: Luke Metcalf again showing is a bit clutch.

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01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 8: What I love about the Warriors, Mike, is how they're

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01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 8: winning in different ways and winning the close ones. I

1343
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 8: think that's four or five games this year they've won

1344
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 8: by margins and single figures. Look back to last year

1345
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 8: and they were losing six or seven games by single

1346
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 8: figures loving the way the Warriors are going.

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01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 9: They were the highlight for.

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01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: Meat Well, said sav A.

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01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 17: Yeah, similar, Mike. I have to add the Chiefs beating

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01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 17: the Crusaders into that, given they were down by heaps

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01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 17: around halftime and then came out on that second half

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01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 17: and blew the Crusaders away again. Yea, there are a

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01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 17: great team to watch when they're on fire. The Chiefs outstanding.

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01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's this go? To pick the final four for me?

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01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: And who wins it?

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01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:32,959
Speaker 17: Ultimately probably Chiefs Crusaders, Brumbies and the Reds Queensland would

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01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 17: be your top four. The Hurricanes are coming into some

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01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 17: sort of form. I wouldn't totally right off the Blues yet.

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01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 17: I think they're still a dangerous team should they make

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01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 17: the knockout rounds Mike, but I still think it looks

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 17: as though it'll be a Chiefs Crusaders final, although if

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01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 17: the Crusaders lose Will Jordan for any stretch of time,

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01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 17: that is a massive blow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jason, you're the coach of the Warriors, right and

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Speaker 2: you're winning, and you're winning well, and you're winning in

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01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 2: different ways as you point out, and some of your

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01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: key players come back. How do you slat them and

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01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: given that you've got a winning side already.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a great question and one that Andrew Webster

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01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 8: I'm sure is thinking about when you've got quality like

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Speaker 8: James Fisher Harris coming back, I mean he has to

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01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 8: go back in Jackson Ford by the looks that is

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01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 8: carrying an injury which might help in that regard Roger

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01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 8: Tuibasis check, I mean, how do you leave him out?

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01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 8: He brought Dllan what tennis Aleisniak back And I'm a

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01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 8: huge fan of not changing a winning team and the

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01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 8: next man up mentality has been so obvious at Warriors HQ.

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01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 8: Some of these young players who wouldn't have got the

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01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 8: opportunity had the more established guy it's been fit have

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01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 8: really stood up. Lecka Hella Seima what a player this

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01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 8: kild could be and others as well. I'd be sticking

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Speaker 8: with it, Mike. What I'm looking forward to is a

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Speaker 8: couple of weeks away. I know they've got the Dolphins

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01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 8: this weekend, but when the Raiders come to go media

1385
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 8: on the night of what is the twenty fifth of

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01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 8: Mayo tool on Oh, it will be a cracker review

1387
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 8: for Vegas.

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01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 2: Mike Revege revenge for Vegas. There's your strap line, Jason,

1389
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 2: nice work. Get it straight down to Sachi's revenge.

1390
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 17: For bring I think you've got to bring to vasisk

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01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 17: and James Fisher Horris straight back Indo.

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01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 2: Well you have to. I mean, you're paying them big

1393
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: bucks and they expect him to play. I'm assuming, but

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01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: you run a run a risk when you've got a

1395
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: vibe going. You've got a vibe going, haven't you.

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: Sure, but who they are veterans, they are at standing players,

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01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 17: and yeah, it's been amazing how that what they've done

1399
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 17: without without some of these injured guys and the defense,

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01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 17: defensive capabilities they're showing.

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01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: And then I think that was the coach of the year.

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01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 17: Well, clearly he has a major role, Mike. But just

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01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 17: the fact that they're down on the scoreboard a few

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01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 17: times here and there, they're not panicking, they're not throwing

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01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 17: it away.

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01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: It's good looking. I'm I'm thoroughly enjoying it. It seems

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01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: to me to be a coming of age, which I'm

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: excited about. Speaking of which, my light of the weekend.

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01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,959
Speaker 2: Thanks for asking, guys. Awesome Matt Payne last yeah, last

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Speaker 2: race yesterday, I mean all the races were good, and

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01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: Tasmania is a weird place in well weird place plus

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01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: a weird track. But that race that finished yesterday in

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01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 2: the third race, was phenomenal. And he is getting better

1414
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: and better every weekend. He's always been fast and qualifying.

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01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: He's been able to get around a track and a

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01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: lap fast, but the race thing has not always been there,

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01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: but it is now.

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01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 17: You'd imagine he'd be pushing for the championship this year,

1419
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 17: wouldn't he.

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01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: He'd be well, certainly, he's certainly up there. I don't

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01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: know if you beat Foenie and Brown on a regular basis,

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01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: but he's right there and he's fast, and so anyone

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01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: could pick him up and be fast. It's not just

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01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: like a guy in a fast car. He's fast and

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01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: can make a car fast, and I think that that's

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: his great talent. And he's only twenty two, twenty three, well,

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01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: he's only in his third season. Whatever it is, so

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 2: you know it's quite bold?

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01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 9: Was it quite a bold strategy?

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01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: Mike Very ran out of tires and Fioeni was hunting

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: him down, and if Phoenie had had another one hundred

1432
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 2: yards would have got him. But to run along the

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01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: way he did was risky, but but that's you know,

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01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: those are the decisions you make under fire. Jason sorts

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01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: out more than the boys.

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01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 17: Did you Did you yelp louder for the Warriors or

1437
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 17: for Matt pain That's.

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01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 2: A good question. No, it was all the Warriors because

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01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: Matt Paine, I think, had it. I knew he had it,

1440
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: and I would have been disappointed if he didn't have it.

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01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't a matter of him going, oh God, I

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01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 2: hope he makes it. I thought he would. Whereas the Warriors,

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01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you just you're just rebel. I'm reveling more, Sev.

1444
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm yelping less and reveling more because I'm increasingly confident

1445
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: into what's unfolding.

1446
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 3: Now.

1447
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: Listen, we need to get serious in a moment.

1448
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 6: What is it?

1449
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 2: Think about this over the break because I want good, solid,

1450
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: proper answers. Why is it that you can bring in

1451
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: more revenue than you ever have and still lose money?

1452
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about the rugby union.

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01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: Thirteen past the Mike Husking Breakfast Full Show Podcast, ton

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01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: I have read Power by News Talks.

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01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 19: It be sixteen past eight the Monday Morning Commentary Box

1456
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 19: on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi

1457
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 19: businesses with finance solutions for over fifty years.

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01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: Right o, Jason, give it to me. So they're losing

1459
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 2: money despite bringing in more money than ever. Kirk says,

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01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: we've got a massive participation crisis and unions I'm reading

1461
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 2: over the weekend have only got limited support for the

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01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: national body anyway, What the hell's going on?

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01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a great question. Mark Robinson seemed to part it,

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 8: or tried to anyway in pretty positive terms. Didn't he

1465
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 8: with you to eighty five million revenue? But you're right,

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01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 8: any business that is spending, you know, significantly more that's

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01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 8: erning is in trouble.

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01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 9: JEDR plus is I think, you know, quite near the

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01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 9: heart of this.

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01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 8: They've poured a lot of money into this content channel

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01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 8: for very little in the way of return as far

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01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 8: as uptake from fans is concerned, but also revenue generation

1473
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 8: coming back the other way. I think the idea is

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01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 8: insitr plus is something they want to be able to

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01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 8: show to, you know, to prospective spots and say, look

1476
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 8: look at all these hundreds of thousands, even millions of

1477
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 8: people engaging with us.

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01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 9: You should get a piece of that. Well, it hasn't

1479
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 9: really happened.

1480
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 8: I think there are more about five times more people

1481
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 8: watching the All Blacks YouTube channel than subscribing to NDS

1482
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 8: at R plus. So it seems as though this content

1483
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 8: play there has been a big part of this and

1484
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 8: clearly isn't working very well.

1485
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 17: What do you reckon, sav I think they're in Disneyland.

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01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 17: If they thought people were going to subscribe to a channel,

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01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 17: you'd have to have bloody good content on it for

1488
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 17: people to want to pay for it, Mike. When other

1489
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 17: sporting bodies like NFL and NBA it's all pretty much free,

1490
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 17: isn't it. To a large degree, this is free.

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01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 9: As well, though, save at the moment, and people still

1492
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 9: aren't signing up to it.

1493
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 17: Yeah, well, initially it was going to be subscription. There

1494
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 17: wasn't so they'd make their money back on it plus

1495
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 17: some but that hasn't happened, Mike. I think I listened

1496
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 17: to that Mark Robinson interview.

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01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: The other day that did you? I mean, was it

1498
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: just me?

1499
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 3: I couldn't.

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01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 9: I couldn't. I couldn't really understand what was going on.

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01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 17: No, maybe I'm thick.

1502
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people in well a lot

1503
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 2: of maybe thick people as well. But I was just listening.

1504
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: I just thought, this is crap. I mean, he's just talking,

1505
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: He's talking out his ass.

1506
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 17: They've got to spend a lot of money on on

1507
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 17: player salaries. I get that they're in a competitive market globally.

1508
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 17: Players will stay here for the all black jersey, but

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01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 17: also they need to be you know, looked after, which

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01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 17: is which is totally understandable. I think the areas of

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01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 17: the game though that are bloated. Staffing numbers in some

1512
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 17: areas of ens that are I think are bloated. I

1513
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 17: think costs can be cut. I don't think you'd want

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Speaker 17: to see the day where they start really scrimping and

1515
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 17: cutting costs and say the All Blacks and the performance

1516
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 17: of that team starts to drop off. That would be

1517
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 17: the last thing that they want or need. But there

1518
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 17: has clearly they're overspending, right so there has to be

1519
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 17: some some cost cutting. My understanding is that David Kirk

1520
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Speaker 17: as chairman of the new board, the boards come in,

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01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 17: I think we may well see a clip out of

1522
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Speaker 17: some of the executive and the not two distant future,

1523
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 17: whether the New Commercial Company board remains or if it's

1524
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 17: more aligned with the other board. If not trying to

1525
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 17: confuse things too much, that may happen. My understanding is,

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Speaker 17: you know, there's a leading executive. He could after World

1527
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Speaker 17: Rugby very very soon. So we're already starting to see

1528
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Speaker 17: maybe people moved on from high positions under this new board,

1529
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 17: which I think pretty much has to happen.

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Speaker 2: Would you surmise, then, Jason, that sav's correct. It's it's

1531
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 2: the running of the game that's the problem, because I

1532
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: would ask the question is it possible, And this goes

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01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 2: to Kirk's comments about participation. Is it possible? It's as

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01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 2: a sport, it's just unsalvigible in terms of like it's

1535
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: just not something that we're as gripped by as we

1536
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: used to be because we like NFL, NBA football, whatever.

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Speaker 8: You're like, well, I think both of those things can

1538
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 8: be true. That we're not as as tied to it,

1539
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 8: you know, as passionately as we always have been. You're right,

1540
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 8: this isn't This isn't the nineteen seventies where it was

1541
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 8: rugby or nothing. But I still think it's certainly a

1542
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 8: brand which is powerful. You look at the All Blacks,

1543
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 8: and I think that also lies at the heart of this,

1544
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 8: there is an undeniable power in the All Blacks brand.

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01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 8: They can still attract big partnerships like the Toyota one recently.

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Speaker 9: That's a great partner.

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Speaker 2: But is that what it comes down to? Though they're

1548
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: only interested in the All Blacks. Forget the women, forget participation,

1549
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 2: forget all that. Just it's the All Blacks.

1550
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 8: If that is the case, then that is not sustainable

1551
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 8: because there has to be something below the peak of

1552
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 8: the pyramid in order to feed into the All Blacks.

1553
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 8: As we know, look, administrative costs bloated, yes, salaries high, Yes,

1554
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 8: I go back to this content strategy unless unless that

1555
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 8: they find a way to somehow engage a bunch of

1556
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 8: people in this content of theirs. Then I kind of

1557
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 8: feel as though entered out plus needs to be kicked

1558
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 8: to the curb and they just need to stay in

1559
01:10:59,000 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 8: their land and concentrate on.

1560
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Speaker 17: The Silver Lake deal hasn't worked as yet, has it?

1561
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 17: And and I think this new financial year or current

1562
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 17: financial I think that's when the seven and a half

1563
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 17: percent kicks in or whatever that figure is, where they

1564
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 17: have to pay Silver like the revenue cut of the

1565
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Speaker 17: revenue Mike. The concern is I think, look, there's always

1566
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 17: going to be a banging of heads between the provincial

1567
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 17: unions and ended are that that that's happened forever. It's

1568
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 17: always going to happen probably, But at the moment again,

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Speaker 17: I think the relationship is not great and the fear

1570
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 17: is that the production line is going to run out,

1571
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 17: at the bottom of the pyramid is going to dry up.

1572
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Speaker 17: I see the news in another twenties of just One

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Speaker 17: that beaten South Africa to win the Rugby Championship, which

1574
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 17: is encouraging, but there is still a fear the one

1575
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 17: day this production line is going to run out and

1576
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 17: back won't keep on winning.

1577
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Good conversation guys. Well then you go

1578
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 2: well and we catch up next Monday. Andrew Cevl Jason

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Speaker 2: pine A twenty two.

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Speaker 2: that the players aren't playing their correct. Weird an under

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Speaker 2: Kids are loving league rugby feels old. Jarnick sinner, by

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Speaker 2: the way, we didn't have time to raise it was

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Speaker 2: my other fascination over the weekend. So he comes back

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Speaker 2: to the Italian Open. Whire is the soy of relevance

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Speaker 2: will of course he was banned. And it seems to

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Speaker 2: me these days, you break the rules and you get

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01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,799
Speaker 2: banned for a short period of time, no one seems

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Speaker 2: to care. So it was a sellout crowd. He's Italian.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of signs going welcome back, Yarnick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and they didn't say despite the fact, you're

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Speaker 2: a cheat and got caught. So he did a deal.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't follow the story, three month ban. It

1615
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Speaker 2: was a settlement with the World Anti Doping Agency conveniently

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Speaker 2: allowed him not to miss miss a single Grand Slam

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01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: and he would return to his home tournament. I mean,

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01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,799
Speaker 2: how does that work? So you cheat, get caught cheating,

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01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: and then you go, look, well look I don't want

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01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: to miss any Grand slams. Oh no missing Grand slams, Yannick.

1621
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Speaker 2: And when I come back, can I come back to

1622
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: my home tournament so all the crowd can turn up

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01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 2: with signs saying welcome back young. Oh, absolutely, no problem

1624
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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 3: How does that work?

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Speaker 2: And this is like the snook of the other last

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Speaker 2: week with the Chinese guye and there whatever there were Chinese,

1628
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Speaker 2: but ten of them. Match fixing, betting, Oh no, you're

1629
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Speaker 2: banned for two years. Oh, welcome back. So you're the

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01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: world champion. Now are you fantastic? What happened to the

1631
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: days of actually in a bit of punishment where you

1632
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: maybe learned your list?

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Speaker 12: When did that ever happen? I mean, I'm pretty successful

1634
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 12: Australian cricketers who are only pretty successful because you know

1635
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 12: they got banned for a bet.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Australian election, which is still being

1637
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: mopped up. Steve Price.

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Speaker 1: Next, the only report you need to start your day,

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Speaker 1: it's my casting Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way News tog sad Be does this say?

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Speaker 2: Does this back my argument up? Or Miles Hurrale of

1642
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 2: Fontira's argument up. So I'm reading tip Top now. Fontirasold

1643
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: Tiptop back in nineteen twenty nineteen for three hundred and

1644
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: eighty million dollars, and they said, we don't want to

1645
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: make ice creams anymore. We've got other things to do

1646
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 2: with our lives. What's left in their portfolio au Capity

1647
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Speaker 2: cheeses and your anchor brands and your butter and all

1648
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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. They want to consumer brands and

1649
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Speaker 2: they want to flick those off at the moment and

1650
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: they're at the process. As you well know, if you're

1651
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: a regular with expressions of interest and there are people

1652
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 2: lining up, left, right and centered to pay some I'm

1653
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 2: assuming very good money so that Fronteria can take the

1654
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 2: cash banquet and get out of the business and they

1655
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: will go on. Anyway, tip Top has gone through the

1656
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: roof for revenues climbed to two hundred and seven million,

1657
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: up from one hundred and eighty six. Net profit is

1658
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 2: jumped by thirty percent. They paid out fifty million dollars

1659
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 2: in dividends. Net profit is jumped by thirty percent. So

1660
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: my question, so Myles Horrible, would go, see, we sold it,

1661
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: we weren't doing that well. Somebody came in who's ne

1662
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: ext bird in the field and bought it, and they're

1663
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 2: doing really well. Good on them. I would say, how

1664
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: hard is it to sell ice cream? Given you're already

1665
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 2: in the broad based dairy industry, and if they can

1666
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 2: do it, why can't you? And if you can do it,

1667
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 2: hire some people to do it properly. That way you

1668
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 2: can make some more money.

1669
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 12: So I stopped for an ice cream yesterday at Pocono,

1670
01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 12: which I haven't done for quite some time.

1671
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 2: When I go to Pokona. We'll stop last both there you.

1672
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 12: Go, and I can tell you people love ice cream.

1673
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 2: People do love ice cream, There's no question about that.

1674
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes away.

1675
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Speaker 1: From the international correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace

1676
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business right.

1677
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 2: I'm study with guys Stephen. Good morning to you. Good

1678
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 2: day there, Susan Lay. Is she your winner or not?

1679
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 11: Probably not. I think Angus Taylor will probably prevail. But

1680
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 11: whatever the result of the Liberal leadership battle tomorrow is

1681
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 11: whoever gets the job, would you want that job?

1682
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 6: No?

1683
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 11: No, We're going to be you know, at least three years,

1684
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 11: probably six years opposition leader. You've got forty odd seats

1685
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 11: compared to your opponent with ninety class. You've got liberal

1686
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 11: chance of really ever any up being Prime minister. You're

1687
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 11: basically warming the seat. As a dear friend of mine said,

1688
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 11: don't ever take the first pancake. I mean, they're just

1689
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 11: going to be handed an impossible mission to try and

1690
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 11: reinvigorate the Liberal Party. So I don't know. And my

1691
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 11: honest answer to you would be who cares? Because the

1692
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 11: new leader of the Liberal Party is probably either not

1693
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,879
Speaker 11: in the parliament or if they are in the Parliament,

1694
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 11: are much younger than that, and they'll sit and wait

1695
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 11: by the.

1696
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 2: Time fair enough, So does Zangers get up because he

1697
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: got Justiner across the line and that's some sort of

1698
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 2: cool ticket or that doesn't make any difference.

1699
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 11: I think that helps him. I think certainly that people

1700
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 11: in the Liberal National Coalition believe that just Into nampergenper

1701
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 11: Prices is someone who needs to be in a senior role.

1702
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 11: The only problem, and I've interviewed just Into a nampertenber

1703
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 11: Price a number of times. She's brutally honest. When did

1704
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 11: your last see a brutally honest politician survive very long?

1705
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 15: I mean, this is the problem.

1706
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 11: She says what she thinks, and she has views about

1707
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 11: a whole range of things that might sit uncomfortably with

1708
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 11: the matrons who still control the backrooms the Liberal Party.

1709
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 11: So we'll have to wait and see. And it's the

1710
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 11: first of the leadership contests, of course. I think really

1711
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 11: the more interesting story is probably what the government's doing

1712
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 11: to itself now as you know that one with a

1713
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 11: whopping majority, they're going to be in power for a

1714
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 11: long time. But did you realize that the Prime Minister

1715
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 11: of Australia Anthony Albernezi. He does not get to select

1716
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 11: who are the potential ministers in his own cabinet. He

1717
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 11: aligns as signs portfolios, but he gets a list of

1718
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 11: names presented to him and he's told by the factions

1719
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 11: of the Labor Party, the left and the right, Okay,

1720
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 11: here's your list who's going to take the field with you,

1721
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 11: but you can now sign them, but you're not allowed

1722
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 11: to select anyone who's not on that list.

1723
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: Where did this come from? Because I read the other

1724
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: day that he's handing out another one to the left

1725
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 2: faction because they did well, I mean, what's that about.

1726
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 2: Why are you just picking the best people for the job?

1727
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 11: Well, what a fabulous question that is. And if only

1728
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 11: Australia could be run that way. But it's not. So

1729
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 11: you're win a something majority and the left faction go

1730
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 11: away and they meet, and the right faction go away

1731
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 11: and they meet and they go, Okay, we want more

1732
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 11: of our people in and they want more of their

1733
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 11: people in. So here's the list. And so what that's

1734
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 11: resulted in is the Attorney General Dreyfus he's been dumped

1735
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 11: and Ed Husick, who was the mint really the Minister

1736
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 11: for making things in Australia, he gets dumped as well. Well.

1737
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 11: Husick is unloaded on the Prime Minister on ABC yesterday

1738
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 11: called him the prime minister, and Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles,

1739
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 11: who heads up the right faction, has called him a

1740
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 11: ministerial assassin, so the factional assassin. So they're tearing each

1741
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 11: other apart. That just so happens. That and I think

1742
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 11: I mentioned this to you last week. He's sick was

1743
01:19:53,880 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 11: the first Muslim cabinet minister in Australian history. Drefus was

1744
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 11: the most senior Jewish politician in the country. So they've

1745
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 11: both gone out the door. I mean it seems ridiculous.

1746
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 2: How factionalized is the Labor Party with then, I mean,

1747
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 2: can you be a moderate?

1748
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 11: Well no, I mean the moderates are the right wing.

1749
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 11: I guess Anthony Albanesi himself, the Prime Minister comes from

1750
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 11: the hard left. Yes, there's no more hard left p

1751
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 11: and that we've ever had, probably in Australia than did

1752
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 11: Anthony Albanesi. And the Deputy Prime Minister and Defense Minister,

1753
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 11: Richard mars is from the right. So the two tribes,

1754
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 11: you know, they fight together during the election, then they

1755
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 11: start cutting each other's heads off the moment they win,

1756
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 11: the spoilers of office.

1757
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: I reckon, you've bought yourself trouble. I don't know that

1758
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 2: Australia realized what they vote for him because your wonky system,

1759
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 2: You've ended up with this huge majority and they're just

1760
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 2: gonna I've seen it here with the Labor Party here

1761
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 2: and they got the majority in twenty through twenty three

1762
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 2: and they just they literally lost their minds and they

1763
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 2: were heaped out. They just couldn't they couldn't handle themselves.

1764
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 2: They got so full of their own self importance and

1765
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: just went crazy.

1766
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 11: Well, I live in Victoria and that's been happening now

1767
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 11: for four elections with Daniel Andrews and now with Jessindra

1768
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 11: Allen the premium and that they got total control of

1769
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 11: the state and the places both busted and broke. So

1770
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 11: you're quite right, that's exactly what's happened. I should point

1771
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 11: out that our great mate doctor Manick Ryan, yes, has

1772
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 11: managed to hang on by her fingernails in that seat

1773
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 11: of key On. The Liberals have been denied that seat,

1774
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 11: so we've got to put up with another session with

1775
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,759
Speaker 11: doctor Ryan in chargement.

1776
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: When you got rid of ban though. But having said

1777
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 2: that the ban Green things, the fact they're in the Senate,

1778
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 2: does that give them a cute oss and irrelevance that

1779
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: allows them to come back in the Lower House at

1780
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 2: another time as opposed to being jettisoned entirely from the

1781
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 2: political scene and having to rebuild from the start.

1782
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1783
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 11: No, I don't think that they're a party of the Senate.

1784
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 11: I mean I thought that it was a naboration that

1785
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 11: they had the four seats in the lower House. They

1786
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 11: now hung under one. But they are a blocking party

1787
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 11: in the Senate. They will now make a lot of

1788
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 11: noise because if Labour wants to breathe things through, which

1789
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 11: is what you're alluding to a few moments ago, then

1790
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 11: they'll do it in the Senate with the help of

1791
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 11: the Greens. And the Greens are put on tremendous pressure

1792
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 11: on their pet topics and we'll have to wait and

1793
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 11: see what it does to the country. It is not

1794
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 11: going to be pretty.

1795
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 14: So.

1796
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 11: The Nationals are also up for election today. David Little

1797
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 11: prowd as the current leader. He's been challenged by Matt Canavan.

1798
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 11: I had Canavan on the Sky Show on Friday night

1799
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 11: he's got a good list of things that he wants

1800
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 11: to do. I don't think you'll have the numbers to

1801
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 11: get there, and so little proud he hangs on. The

1802
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 11: big debate in that party room is going to be

1803
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 11: look way stronger than the examples. They're the ones who

1804
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 11: always say we're they're in charge. Why should we be

1805
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 11: in a coalition with these people when we've done much

1806
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 11: better than them. So we are in the middle of

1807
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 11: a very very interesting period in politics. But it's not

1808
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 11: going to be great.

1809
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 2: I don't think for the country now it will not

1810
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 2: be all right. Might see you Wednesday, preciates Steve Price

1811
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 2: out of Australia, Mike, as you and I am normally

1812
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 2: a big Miles hurrale fan. I took you hat to

1813
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 2: your account of a perspective. It's outrageous that from a

1814
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 2: New Zealand ink perspective that Fonterra is diversifying the only

1815
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 2: globally consumer visible part of its business grape for its

1816
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 2: farmer shareholders. Crap the New Zealand tax payers. That would

1817
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 2: be my view. Eight forty five.

1818
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered

1819
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: by News Talks at be.

1820
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 2: By the way reading over the weekend about the Greens

1821
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 2: after watching the party lose three of its four House

1822
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 2: of Rep seat, including the aforementioned Adam Bant, the Greens

1823
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 2: have experimented with what I would call a hyper militant

1824
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 2: approach during the past three years, as is a former Green.

1825
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 2: What will broaden their base is if they lose this

1826
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: terrible way they have of expressing their moral superiority over

1827
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: everyone else and their refusal to talk meaningfully with ordinary Australians.

1828
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 2: Is there a Green party you can think of that

1829
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 2: that might apply to apart from the Australians? And you reckon?

1830
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 2: What do you reckon? The chances of learning the lesson

1831
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 2: are apart from zero. There's a weird thing. I don't

1832
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 2: know how much weight to give it, but I'm a

1833
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: massive wine fan, so I like talking about wine the

1834
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 2: Real Review, which is a critics website. I'd actually despite

1835
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 2: the fact I'm a wine fan, I'd never heard of them.

1836
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 2: Doesn't really matter the Real Review. I've done their top

1837
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: fifty vineyards just looking over the vineyard next door to

1838
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 2: our place over the weekend had the tractors and got

1839
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,759
Speaker 2: lots of people and tractors and stuff. Happening, looks beautiful.

1840
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 2: Vineyard looks fantastic when it's all clipped up and finished

1841
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 2: for the winter. I reckon just before harvest, and then

1842
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 2: when it's all clipped up for winter shows that people

1843
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 2: love and tend to the buyes. Best vineyard in the

1844
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: country is Felt and Road, and I would probably go

1845
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: along with that. If you've never tasted a Block three

1846
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: or a Block five pin and noir, you've not lived.

1847
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 2: Destiny Bay of why Hecky is two t Fareeda Wines

1848
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 2: of Marlborough three Framingham Dry River had funnily enough, a

1849
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 2: small taste of a two thousand eleven Dry River pin

1850
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: and noir over the weekend because my glorious wife said,

1851
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: and who's a non drinker by the way, I said,

1852
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: would you like something to drink for Mother's Day? And

1853
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: she and I ran through a list of stuff she

1854
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 2: could drink for Mother's Day.

1855
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 12: Now she said, bloody hell, I've been up since bloody

1856
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 12: four o'clock. Bloody smoke alarm.

1857
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: There was a bit of me anyway, by the time

1858
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 2: we ran through the various options. She I had a

1859
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: nice wine open and I said, taste this and see

1860
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: if you like it. And it was quite a beautiful wine,

1861
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 2: and she went, I can see why you would like it,

1862
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 2: but it's not for me. And I went fair enough,

1863
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 2: I said, what about a pen and wa? And she goes, ooh,

1864
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 2: I think that'll be nice, And so I said, I

1865
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 2: happen to have a dry River twenty eleven pin and Wa.

1866
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 2: So I opened that and we tasted a little bit

1867
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 2: of that, and that was next level. And I said

1868
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 2: to her, without word of a lie, bugging me, if

1869
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: that's not the fifth Beath vineyard in the country, And

1870
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 2: there it is?

1871
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 12: And were you slurring and listening that way? Because you'd

1872
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 12: already had a few by that stage.

1873
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 2: Do you know I speak worse on this praying than

1874
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 2: I do when I'm drink. I Reckon just might be

1875
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 2: a thing. Greggie Range at eleven, which I'm disappointed him

1876
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: because I'd have Craiggie Range top five all day long.

1877
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 2: Hans Hurtzog, same story. Hans Hurtzog comes in at fourteen

1878
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 2: Prairie Hills, who actually might be my favorite vineyard of all.

1879
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: It's thirty four, so the real review is a joke.

1880
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 11: I ignore it.

1881
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:18,759
Speaker 2: Nine minutes away from nine.

1882
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover. The LA

1883
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 1: News Tog's head.

1884
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: Been a lot of anticipation on this one. The all

1885
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: new Defender Octa is the master of extreme off road

1886
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 2: non road performance. Unrivaled responsive this and unmatched capability. This

1887
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: is the Defender. The landrove Defender Octa a raised height,

1888
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: wider stance, thirty three inch tires. It is fantastic. It's

1889
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 2: tough from every angle. Fitted with hardware in graphite front

1890
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 2: under shield that protects the underside from the rugged terrain.

1891
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 2: The engine supercharged V eight delivering six hundred and twenty

1892
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 2: six horse power. It's not just power, it's hang on

1893
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 2: tight power. It's phenomenal. It's like they took everything you

1894
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 2: love about a Defender and turned it up to eleven.

1895
01:26:56,439 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 2: The new Defender Octor the special Octa Mode unlock a

1896
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: whole lot of unique calibrations, attraction control ABSBA performance designed

1897
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,879
Speaker 2: to showcase the vehicle's classifying capability. You've got the fantastic

1898
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,560
Speaker 2: read about it because it's brilliant. The sixty dynamic suspension

1899
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 2: that responds to driving stars with hydraulic interlink dampers and

1900
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 2: high adjustable air springs. It's incredible, so master any terrain

1901
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 2: literally with the Defender Octor, the most powerful defender ever made.

1902
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 2: You've got to see your local retailer today about.

1903
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: The OPTA trending now with Chemist Warehouse Mayhem megasales on.

1904
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 2: Now Country Music Awards over the weekend. Lady Wilson was

1905
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 2: the big winner, so she's Good News Entertainer of the Year,

1906
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 2: beat out all the usual Jelly Roland Morgan and Chris

1907
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 2: Staple and et cetera, et cetera. Female Artists of the Year,

1908
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: Songwriter of the Year, Album of the Year, and this

1909
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 2: will win. By the way, that's the single from the

1910
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 2: album of the same name. As they say music Radio

1911
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 2: Staple than one Male Artist of the Year. The best

1912
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: group is of Dominion. They went every year. As far

1913
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 2: as I can work out, they've won every year for

1914
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 2: one hundred years. The best duo books and done similar

1915
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 2: sort of story action. New Female Artist of the Year

1916
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 2: was Ella Langeley. If you want some others too, Single

1917
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 2: of the Year, you look like you love you excuse

1918
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 2: me you w Ley Owen sims long, three conditions. I'm

1919
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 2: not sure this isn't even my couple of year. You

1920
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 2: had a separate Song of the Year award for reasons

1921
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 2: best known to the people of the country music. That

1922
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,879
Speaker 2: was Dirt Cheap by Cody Johnson.

1923
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 10: Little girl you used to swing around there, still serving

1924
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 10: inner Brown.

1925
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 12: Can we make this stop? Please?

1926
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 2: Big This is better than the previous one. Morgan Walland

1927
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 2: won nothing, Luke Colmb's won nothing. Christopher than won one.

1928
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 2: So it's well, don't know what's going on there. I

1929
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:02,520
Speaker 2: think it's readink.

1930
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go back to that first one that was

1931
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 12: almost tolerable.

1932
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Laney was okay, I reckon, It's like being the

1933
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,560
Speaker 2: one reviewer Dodge. Yes, I think. I just think we

1934
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 2: need to clean the shar up a little bit and

1935
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 2: stop running, dodging poles and stuff like that. Anyway, back

1936
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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning from six there's always Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

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Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.