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Speaker 1: Ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: We finally know what FBI Director Caspittel was in the

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Speaker 2: country for. America's Federal Bureau of Investigation has announced it

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Speaker 2: will set up its own standalone office in Wellington. So

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Speaker 2: Judith Collins is the Minister of Defense and she joins me. Now,

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Speaker 2: hello Judith, Hello Andrew, why have the FBI decided to

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Speaker 2: set up shop. In fact, I'm going to ask you

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Speaker 2: another question. I thought the FBI only worked internally within

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Speaker 2: America and the CIA was about external So why is

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Speaker 2: a FBI now in Wellington.

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Speaker 1: A century as our counterpart with the New Zealand Security

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Speaker 1: Intelligence Service, so basically spies. FBI is more on tri

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Speaker 1: and national crime, and also obviously the intelligence agencies work

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Speaker 1: with the law enforcement agencies. But it's certainly a law

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Speaker 1: enforcement and intelligence cooperation.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So they are going to talk about the threat

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Speaker 2: of China, but they're also going to talk about the

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Speaker 2: threat of increased drug trades and general shenanigans within the

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Speaker 2: South Pacific exactly. So the.

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Speaker 1: Director explained today that he realized that New Zealand was

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Speaker 1: the only Five Eyes country that didn't have our own

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Speaker 1: FBI agency here is certainly we have had for many

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Speaker 1: years an FBI person here, but to turn it into

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Speaker 1: an actual agency that reports through to the Washington to

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Speaker 1: Cash Bertel's office rather than going through Canberra. So we're

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Speaker 1: not a sub branch anymore.

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Speaker 2: Will they actually have a storefront? Could I go along

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Speaker 2: to the FBI and knock on the door or will

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Speaker 2: it all be done in secrecy.

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Speaker 1: That's all pretty secret that they're in the with the

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Speaker 1: obviously the US embassy. So look, the FBI and the

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Police as well as our security agencies have

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Speaker 1: long worked together, and you're talking about transnational crime, whether

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Speaker 1: it's cyber crime, ford organized crime generally money laundering, child exportation,

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Speaker 1: and also foreign intelligence threats. So the Agency office will

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Speaker 1: have responsibility not only for partnerships in New Zealand but

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Speaker 1: with Antarctica the work there, but also some more NWAYA and.

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Speaker 2: They'll help our own fight against those issues.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, we have common threats, whether it's people trafficking fentanyl,

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Speaker 1: which is a big focus at the moment for the FBI,

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Speaker 1: but also metamphetamine, which is one of our big focus areas.

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Speaker 1: But we have common threats around transnational criminals.

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Speaker 2: And this is good news really because with the election

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Speaker 2: of the Donald Trump administration. It was thought that the

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Speaker 2: America was going to become more inward looking and stop

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Speaker 2: looking outwards, but this shows that they are still committed

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Speaker 2: to being an outward looking power.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think it's incredibly important. I mean, clearly,

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Speaker 1: we have a population the size of Alabama and we

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Speaker 1: have enormous area to cover, and particularly around that transnational crime.

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Speaker 1: The US has enormous opportunities to help us with that,

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Speaker 1: and I think every New Zealander would say this is

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Speaker 1: a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Now, I know you'll tell me. This is an operational

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Speaker 2: issue for the Defense forces. But on a personal level,

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Speaker 2: were you disappointed that the head of the Navy, the

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Speaker 2: Rear Admiral, had to come out and scold drunken sailors. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Actually I felt for the Chief of Navy because nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to have to do that. And the factor is

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Speaker 1: that people need to remember that, you know, they don't

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Speaker 1: dry ships. Basically, they've got to be really careful in

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Speaker 1: the operation, but you cannot go crazy when you get

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Speaker 1: to port. And it's really important that we not have

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Speaker 1: these things happen. And I thought good on them.

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Speaker 2: And will the agencies within the Defense Force still be

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Speaker 2: funded to help. I know this. There are sexual abuse

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Speaker 2: agencies within the Defense Forces. Will there be funding to

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Speaker 2: help the say as the soldiers in the m and

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Speaker 2: combat the evil drink?

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Speaker 1: Oh well, everyone has to. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: the detail on that, but I do know that the

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Speaker 1: Defence Force is a very seriously focused on its people

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Speaker 1: and I find them a great employer. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: look at some of the work they do for people

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Speaker 1: when whether it's health free health care or free dental care,

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Speaker 1: these are not things that most people in the outside

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Speaker 1: that Defence Force would get. So I can't imagine that

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Speaker 1: they're not doing an awful lot for their people.

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Speaker 2: Judith Colin's defenseminis So I think you for your time today.

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