1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: And with us right now, we have Barry Sober, senior 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: political correspondent, Barry. 3 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Heather. 4 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Do you make of the booing at the netball. 5 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: Well, I've got to say I listened tried to listen 6 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: to it several times, and I couldn't really hear it. 7 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: And it's not because I'm hard of hearing. 8 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: It's just, of course, is because you're heart here. 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: No, it's not. I wound it right up. I really 10 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: the level of booing was very low compared to what 11 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: I've seen of prime ministers in the past. But would 12 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: you expect it at a netball final? I don't know. 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: I think it was pretty good of the Prime Minister 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: to turn up. I don't think there would be many 15 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: prime ministers that would turn up and sit through the match. 16 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great match obviously, but look, he 17 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: wasn't too concerned about it being booed. Chris likes and 18 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: says didn't surprise him greatly. 19 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Oh. 20 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: Look, it's not uncommon for politicians to be booed at 21 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 3: some events. But I just say I was treated really well. 22 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: People were very very nice to me at that event, 23 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: and they often are across the whole of the country. 24 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: I don't want that to take away from what wasn't 25 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: absolutely fen testic game between the Mystics and the Tactics, 26 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: and for the Tactics to come through and when they 27 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: hadn't done for a long time was pretty special. You know, 28 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: there's always elements that will be frustrated with government. I 29 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: get that. That goes with being a politician. 30 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: Yep. So there you go. He's taking it in astride which. 31 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Come on stopping like this. You know that if you get, 32 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: if you if you go to you said, why don't 33 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: you repeat to us what you said about netball crowds earlier. 34 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: No, I won't. My three daughters they went through netball 35 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: and I was on the side of the court every 36 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: Saturday watching netballs. I know the game pretty well. 37 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what you said is not surprising. A rouple 38 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: of lefties and it's very working class. 39 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: I'm all left leaning, I said, the the people that 40 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: turn up to watch and. 41 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: When we called Ginny Woods to confirm whether you are correct, 42 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: what is should she and all of this, she's like 43 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: the voice of netball. 44 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because it's just as you heard last night. 45 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: But listen, Barry, in all seriousness, regardless of you know 46 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: yes anyway, regardless. The thing is if a prime minister 47 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: is turning up eighteen months into his prime ministership to 48 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: a crowd full of mums who listened to CODs, right 49 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: and getting booed, that's not that's not a good looking. 50 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. The first quarter of an 51 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: hour of today's press conference and I thought, really, you 52 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: know you shouldn't do this as a press conference because 53 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: you meant to be there answering questions. First fifteen minutes 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: were spent on what they've done over the past year 55 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: for the economy. Too long. Yeah, they've got to have 56 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: some advice that it's a press conference, it's not a speech. 57 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: Do you not think though, if you're going and I 58 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 4: think where this netball game was being held is really important, right, 59 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: it's in west Auckland. West Auckland is the place you 60 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: have to win if you want to win an election. 61 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 4: But also a bunch of tradees they think like normal people. 62 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: So the fact that he's been due to that extent 63 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: I think is reasonably sir. 64 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: Okay, drive home the point here, but you're not making 65 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: it to me. But that's fine anyway. 66 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: Whatever, Okay, talk to me then about what's going on 67 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: with the merchants, but the merchant fee that's being and 68 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: the search arges, I'm not convinced by. 69 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: Well, the big but there's something that's always been one 70 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: of my bug bears, as you well know, when you 71 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: go to pay a restaurant bill and you see six 72 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: bucks or whatever added on to the end of the 73 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: bill because you've got to pay for your credit card use. 74 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: I think that's outrageous and I've said some on this 75 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: program before. So they're doing away with those, But then 76 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,279 Speaker 2: who picks up the cost? Well, the obviously the retailer 77 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: picks up the cost, and you'll see it probably an 78 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: increased food bill charges and restaurants. You'll see it probably 79 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: in prices and retail stores. But I'll tell you what 80 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: the Minister of Finance, and you've got to remember if 81 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: you look at banks, because there's a feeling that banks 82 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: should be picking up this. But the four big banks 83 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: now account for nearly a quarter, or nearly one in 84 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: six dollars of corporate tax collected in this country. So 85 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: they are the best government customers in this country. They 86 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: contribute two point five billion dollars in taxes. 87 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: Is that why? 88 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: Easy? A bit yeah, exactly. But if you listen to 89 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: the Finance minister, if you're sitting her chair, you can 90 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: understand her steering clear of the banks the retailers having 91 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: to absorb the cost, while Nikola Willis doesn't believe they'll 92 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: pass it on to the consumer. 93 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 5: Well, look, I would certainly encourage them not to do that, 94 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 5: and I think you'd find that small businesses. No, it's 95 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 5: a pretty competitive world out there, and if they do that, 96 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 5: they might lose some shoppers. The evidence from the EU 97 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 5: and the UK is that there's no broad evidence that 98 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 5: that occurred. 99 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know, don't count on that happening in 100 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: New Zealand. I would say no. 101 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Verry, thanks very much appreciated. There's very so for senior 102 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: political correspondent. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen 103 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: live to news Talks. 104 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 105 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio.