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Speaker 1: And with us. Now is Barry Sober, senior political correspondent,

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Speaker 1: High Barry, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon. He gotbia Levy won't be taxed.

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Speaker 1: Oh that'll make everything okay exactly. So is it the

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Speaker 1: case that jury has been filing his information incorrectly to

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Speaker 1: Parliament for twenty years?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Apparently. Look he's got half a dozen houses worth

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Speaker 2: about six million dollars and he hasn't filled out the

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Speaker 2: Pecuniary Interests Register the way it should have been filled out,

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Speaker 2: like late last year for example, there was questions asked

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Speaker 2: about it, and Brownley amended sixteen of the twenty annual

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Speaker 2: declarations that he had made. But the thing is that

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Speaker 2: these declarations are so important for MPs because they have

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Speaker 2: to be seen at arm's length from legislation that's passed

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Speaker 2: through the House. One person that it really doesn't affect, ironically,

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Speaker 2: is Jerry Brownley himself. He's the Speaker, so he has

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with legislation anyway, so it's less important

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Speaker 2: than it would be maybe for other nps. Although he

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Speaker 2: made mistakes earlier on as well. But the point that

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Speaker 2: he made was he made no attempt to hide anything

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Speaker 2: and knowing Jerry as I do I'm pretty sure there

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Speaker 2: would be nothing evil.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't sound it doesn't sound like it

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Speaker 1: because he was making some basic mistakes like riding the

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Speaker 1: house claiming the House was in the wrong subject, should

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Speaker 1: have got album, would have been okay, then okay. Now Winston,

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Speaker 1: I noticed, would not make getting rid of the Maldy

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Speaker 1: seats of bottom line, which makes me suspicious about whether

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Speaker 1: he actually is just going to campaign on something here

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Speaker 1: and then never do it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's great, you know, you can imagine there will

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Speaker 2: be quite a lot of popularity given what the Maldi

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Speaker 2: party has been doing in Parliament to get rid of

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Speaker 2: these seats, because they've served absolutely no purpose over the

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Speaker 2: past two years in parliament. Nothing, They've done nothing in

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Speaker 2: the House, hardly even there no Well, that's you know.

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Speaker 2: The point that Winston makes is that we've currently have

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Speaker 2: a record number of Malordi in Parliament and in Cabinet.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven percent of the MPs in Parliament have some

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Speaker 2: sort of Maori lineage. So he said that that's far

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Speaker 2: higher than the claim seventeen percent of Maori living in

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Speaker 2: the country, so they're over represented in the House.

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Speaker 1: What should they say, dedicated, which is to say you

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Speaker 1: don't if you're getting if you're actually you don't need assistance, right,

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Speaker 1: you don't need special help because you're actually standing on

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Speaker 1: your own two feet. And but do you think that

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Speaker 1: if he gets in there, he's actually going to do it,

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Speaker 1: because last time he didn't.

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, Heather, that you also don't need.

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Speaker 2: I thought they were entrenched, but they're not. They're not entrenched.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't let us, which means that you'd have.

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Speaker 2: As seventy five percent vote in favor of getting rid

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Speaker 2: of them. You don't. Winston could go into the House

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Speaker 2: before the election if he wanted to and promote legislation

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Speaker 2: to get rid of the Malory seats. And it takes

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Speaker 2: a simple.

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Speaker 1: This is something you need to mandate for you. It's

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Speaker 1: too big, you can't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there was an attempt by Labor to entrench them.

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Speaker 2: There was an attempt this year by the Greens to

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Speaker 2: entrench the Maori seats. Yep, they haven't been so just

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Speaker 2: a simple vote would.

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Speaker 1: Do it, Okay, cool, listen. So the Retail Crime Advisory

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Speaker 1: Group came up again that they did it.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, of course, and it's going to come up

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Speaker 2: forever in a day. But there was a bit drama

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Speaker 2: in the House this afternoon and Labour's Ginny Anderson lined

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Speaker 2: up to take pot shots at the Police minister. The

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Speaker 2: only trouble was that Mark Mitchell wasn't in the House today.

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Speaker 2: His place was taken by the Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith,

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Speaker 2: who happily defended the police's front line officers with a

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Speaker 2: bit of help from New Zealand First Shane Jones.

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Speaker 3: Behalf of the minister. Yes, and in particular my statement,

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Speaker 3: our police do an outstanding job.

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Speaker 4: Be honorable Shange Joes does the Minister and visit time

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Speaker 4: when the police frontline will be used in moving out

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Speaker 4: the monolors, the criminals, the gangs, the layabouts and the

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Speaker 4: vagrants blighting Queen Street.

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Speaker 3: I'm on behalf of the Minister. Yes, I can anticipate

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Speaker 3: that time.

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Speaker 5: Has he considered offering frontline police the same daily rate

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Speaker 5: as Sunny koshol nine hundred and twenty dollars a day

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Speaker 5: and the next police pay round. If not, why not?

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Speaker 3: On behalf of the Minister. I won't indulge in the

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Speaker 3: members petty games, but I will focus on the outcomes.

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Speaker 3: And the outcomes is that in this country, right here,

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Speaker 3: right now, there are thirty eight thousand fewer victims of

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Speaker 3: violent crime.

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Speaker 2: So there you have us.

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Speaker 1: He was enjoying it, I Barry, thanks very much. Bary Sober,

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