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Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honors backs

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Speaker 2: Well, you welcome today. Good day Sir Field, gerda As

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Speaker 2: Whetta joins us were their three oscar oms for today's

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Speaker 2: big ceremony. New Zealand Open champion Ryan Pete, what a

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Speaker 3: PASKI, well, good for the week.

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Speaker 2: Monday morning, thirteen past seven. Now let's make it to

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Speaker 2: seven past six, thirteen past seven. How do you come

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Speaker 2: up with a number light that's not even close to

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Speaker 2: the time, literally a made up time seven past six.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: You can argue until you're blue in the face as

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Speaker 2: to whether what happened to the White House Saturday was

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Speaker 2: bullying or unfair. But what the US President has on

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Speaker 2: his side, of course's common sense and military power. As

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Speaker 2: Zelensky slunk off to Downing Street, for a hug with

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Speaker 2: Kia and today's meeting with the King. What few in

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Speaker 2: Europe seem to understand is that saying you back Ukraine

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Speaker 2: doesn't win a war all come close to. Without America,

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Speaker 2: this thing is over and fast. Mark Rutter gets that,

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Speaker 2: hence his plea to Zelensky to repair the damage. No America,

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Speaker 2: no war. Norway promised more resource, or at least they

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Speaker 2: said they would ask their parliament. The UK announced another

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Speaker 2: two and a half billion pound loan. But for what

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Speaker 2: this thing is three years old, it's going nowhere at

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Speaker 2: best with America fully on board, it's a stalemate. It is,

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Speaker 2: as so many have put it, now, a meat grinder,

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Speaker 2: and Russia has more meat to grind. What was on

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Speaker 2: Displaan Washington was a simple reality of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 2: They're not interested in war. They're interested in deals, a

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Speaker 2: mineral agreement. See if the Americans on the ground in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: No one's rolling over American interests militarily in Ukraine once

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Speaker 2: they're on the ground. Trump is also right in saying

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Speaker 2: it sees far as pretty much instant, and it's at

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Speaker 2: that point you start working on the what next bit.

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Speaker 2: All the photo ops and Lovens that Zelensky appears to

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Speaker 2: revel and doesn't get you an inch of your country back,

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't give you any advantage over the Russians.

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Speaker 2: NATO are incapable of beating Russia without American buying. That

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Speaker 2: Bayan is over. Trump keeps it super simple. Zelensky has

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Speaker 2: no cards. To a lesser degree, Europe has only limited cards.

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Speaker 2: It is why America is America. Without them, we're done.

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Speaker 2: And where I think Trump is most right is he

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Speaker 2: appears the only one interested in actually getting the thing

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Speaker 2: sought of. The Europeans talk about peace, but peace as

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Speaker 2: a result of victory. There can be no victory. Three

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Speaker 2: years shows us this. The only victory is Russias. If

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Speaker 2: America bails.

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Speaker 3: News of the World in ninety.

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Speaker 2: Seven, Zelenski's straight into the plane and into the bosom

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Speaker 2: of his beloved Europe As fellow Ukrainian MPs, they stand

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Speaker 2: behind him, and when he.

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Speaker 4: Has heard things so that it's us who don't want peace,

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Speaker 4: basically being blamed for all their trocities, all or the

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Speaker 4: terror that we have been through. I think it's understandable

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Speaker 4: why emotions ran high for him.

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Speaker 2: Other dn't speak for many in Europe, of course, who

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Speaker 2: do worry just a little bit about what the old

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Speaker 2: Trump plan might involve.

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Speaker 5: We cannot allow the United States to handle into Russia,

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Speaker 5: which seems to be what they want to do, and

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Speaker 5: that would be very, very dangerous for Europe.

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Speaker 3: So Europe must start paying the bills.

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Speaker 2: So after an emergency chinwag Kia Rickins, they need a

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Speaker 2: peace plan and minor obversation.

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Speaker 6: Say the recent days, we agree that the Group of

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Speaker 6: US will work with you bray from a plan to

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Speaker 6: stop fighting, and they discussed that in the US and

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Speaker 6: take it forward together.

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Speaker 2: That's really backs science mcer Johnson having to run defense

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Speaker 2: a bit on his vote last year, actually backing Ukraine

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Speaker 2: with more money.

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Speaker 7: The whole idea behind it was to hold the line

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Speaker 7: until President Trump could return to the Oval office. I

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Speaker 7: was convinced that that was going to happen and that

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Speaker 7: he would be the one that was powerful and not

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Speaker 7: strong enough on the world stays to bring both parties

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Speaker 2: Now the US manos nomely tariffs, Canada or Mexico ago,

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Speaker 2: the EU's coming. It's for China, lutt nick He Rickins.

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Speaker 2: They've got that.

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Speaker 1: Capitals will remember they have so much more that they

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Speaker 1: sell to us than we sell to them.

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Speaker 3: It's not even close that this is not a battle

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Speaker 3: that we're ever going to lose. And the President knows it.

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Speaker 3: He does have the cards and he's going to protect America.

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Speaker 2: And then Wednesday, the Trump's is also having a joint

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Speaker 2: Congressional address. It's not a State of the Union, but

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Speaker 8: The country is in a really bad place for where

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden left it, even with all the fantastic accomplishments that,

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Speaker 8: by the way, I think to George Washington and all

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Speaker 8: the rest of the presidents would envy is what President

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Speaker 2: We finally got to pull out on Trump in a moment.

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Speaker 2: By the way, finally, Blue Ghost has landed on the Moon.

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Speaker 2: It was a US firm firefly the Aerospace. They launched

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Speaker 2: it back in January. So this makes it just the

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Speaker 2: second commercial vehicle to touch down once to explore the

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Speaker 2: Sea of Crises, which is a huge CRATERI visible from

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Speaker 2: the Earth. They're going to be hoping the mission goes

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Speaker 2: a little more smoothly than the first commercial vehicle to

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Speaker 2: touch down that was by intuitive the company Intuitive whose

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Speaker 2: gear and fell over on its side. So that is

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Speaker 2: news of the world and bear parking in ninety I'm

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Speaker 2: always and by for any moment. Apparently he's holding a

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Speaker 2: press conference out of the so called crisis meeting. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: there is a lot of pressure on Ka to go, Hey,

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Speaker 2: that invite you handed out last week from the King

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Speaker 2: call that off, he says, that is up to the King.

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Speaker 2: So all of that is unfolding as we speak, and

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Speaker 2: we will keep you in touch. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: SEP while the Germans are trying to get a new

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Speaker 2: government together. The two point eight percent was their inflation

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Speaker 10: there was lots of wind damaged logs being shipped the

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Speaker 10: So as we saw the business outlook, consumers are being

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Speaker 9: It looks okay.

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Speaker 10: So this is a bit of a relief around this.

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Speaker 10: This is the fed's preferred inflation gauge, so we had

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Speaker 10: seen a hot than expected inflation print earlier in the month,

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Speaker 1: We are the cardis the news and the newsmakers the

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Speaker 2: On with the assessment. Essentially, Trump advanced stage to come

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Speaker 2: to Jesus moment with Zelensky, Europe and the rest of

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Speaker 2: interested in a continual war with Starmar and Co seemingly

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Speaker 2: keen to continue. You can't announce peace on one hand

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Speaker 11: But I do not accept that the US is an

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Speaker 11: There are no two countries as closely aligned as two countries,

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Speaker 11: and our defense, our security, and intelligence is intertwined in

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Speaker 11: Important and reliable ally for US. The discussions we've had today,

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Speaker 2: The sadness is all of the sober shadows what Starmer

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Speaker 2: On Friday he turned up with a letter for the

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Speaker 2: you want some numbers around the departure from our shaws

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Speaker 14: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: This registration business is this you register and go, or

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Speaker 2: So it doesn't mean you are going. So we haven't

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Speaker 14: That's how many have expressed their interest exactly. But from

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Speaker 2: A lot are going and do they go for lifestyle,

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Speaker 5: What do they go for?

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Speaker 14: They go for better working conditions, they go for job opportunities.

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Speaker 14: You'll know that less than half of the nurses that

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So we've got to get a workforce strategy in place.

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Speaker 14: It's not that we are over have this over abundance

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Speaker 2: It an ever? Is a vicious cycle. Everything I read

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Speaker 2: But given we don't have any money, what do you

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Speaker 2: their year. Bring on twenty twenty six. I wanted how

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Speaker 2: It's a long way to go to be that uselesses

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Speaker 2: And I mean, let's be frank. When I read last

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Speaker 2: we're only going to win seven games, I thought, Gez,

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Speaker 2: it's a harsh assessment. They're experts, that's a harsh assessment.

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Speaker 2: And yet I looked at that yesterday and.

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Speaker 2: Rich Donald morning adding Wick. Now it's Mike Johnson calling

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Speaker 2: for the resignation.

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Speaker 15: Hey, Yeah, that's the input today is shockwisz I got

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Speaker 15: to say, still being felt from all of this, even

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Speaker 15: as you know others in NATO were trying to patch

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Speaker 15: things up here, people run into the usual political camps.

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Speaker 15: There was Jesse Waters on Fox saying Trump was disrespected.

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Speaker 16: He run the world.

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Speaker 3: This is America's world. Jesu our proxy, this world. This

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Speaker 3: ends when we say.

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Speaker 15: It as thanks, comrade. While on SNL last night they

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Speaker 15: did a parody of the Oval Office clash.

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Speaker 17: DESI, President and CEO of Gaza Hotel and Casino, Bald Trump,

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Speaker 17: and I'd like to welcome President Zelenski here to this

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Speaker 17: incredible trap.

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Speaker 13: It's gonna be a big, beautiful trap, and.

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Speaker 17: We're gonna attack him very soon for no reason, right JD.

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Speaker 2: So was it a setup or not?

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Speaker 15: Vance certainly intervened in ways we've not seen from an

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Speaker 15: American veet before. Uh and is facing protesters right though

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Speaker 15: in Vermont at his I want to be Ski vacation.

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Speaker 15: Then in the Washington Political Rule the Center of It,

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Speaker 15: speaker Johnson Yes out today saying Zelensky might have to resign.

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Speaker 7: Well, something has to change either, he needs to come

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Speaker 7: to his senses to come back to the table in

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Speaker 7: gratitude or someone else needs to lead the country to

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Speaker 7: do that.

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Speaker 15: Zelensky has voiced his sayings to the US what dozens

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Speaker 15: and dozens of times, including on the day of the

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Speaker 15: Oval Office debacle. Does that account for allegedly changing signs

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Speaker 15: during the war? Let alone Brian Glen that so called

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Speaker 15: commentator who is you know, dating Madri Taylor Green, the

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Speaker 15: one who claims Jews control the weather. Republican Senator James

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Speaker 15: Langford says Zolensky cannot stand down as the speaker is suggesting.

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Speaker 5: I don't agree, but frankly, I think that would spiral

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Speaker 5: Ukrainians and chaos right now trying to find who is

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Speaker 5: the negotiator to bring an issue to peace.

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Speaker 15: So we're now Britain, France and Ukraine. So they're working

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Speaker 15: to develop a ceasefire plan to present to the US

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Speaker 15: starting with the signing of that US Ukraine Rare Earth Deal,

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Speaker 15: says Britain's US ambassador Peter Mandelsson about this.

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Speaker 18: Quite apart from the economic gain that Ukraine will derive

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Speaker 18: from that, it will also give the United States a

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Speaker 18: stake in Ukraine's future.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Meantime, while Fox News is talking about how the US

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Speaker 15: runs the world. The Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal has

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Speaker 15: a comma, take shall we say? In their op ed,

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Speaker 15: they said, quote, mister Trump does not want to be

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Speaker 15: the president who abandoned Ukraine to Vladimir Putin, with all

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Speaker 15: the damage and bloodshed that would result. Mister Vance won't

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Speaker 15: like to run for president in such a world either.

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Speaker 15: In quote as for whether the US now science with Putin,

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Speaker 15: a Trump real estate crony Steve Whitcoff just came back

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Speaker 15: from a three and a half hour meeting with Putin

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Speaker 15: in Moscow, saying he cannot name a single concession Russia

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Speaker 15: would make in any peace deal. Meantime, a number of

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Speaker 15: people killed in this war estimated by a Newsweek survey

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Speaker 15: out now to be approaching one.

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Speaker 2: Million exactly now Oscar day, yep, could be.

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Speaker 15: Some surprises at the Academy Awards here in a few hours.

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Speaker 15: And or of the prostitute Cinderella's Story is a pre

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Speaker 15: Oscar's favorite for Best Pick, But Conclave about choosing a

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Speaker 15: pop as pretty finally made film and could take this.

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Speaker 15: I vote Conclave best Actor. I would go with Timothy

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Speaker 15: shallow May who sang all of those Bob Dylan songs.

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Speaker 15: He's pretty amazing doing that, but there is a sense

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Speaker 15: that since he's so young, you'll get another go and

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Speaker 15: that Avian Brody and the Brutals should win. Body's acting

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Speaker 15: in that film is great. The film itself well, three

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Speaker 15: hours twenty five seemingly endless to me. More could take

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Speaker 15: Best Actress for the substance the horror movie about it.

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Speaker 15: Aging celeb who uses a serum two look younger she

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Speaker 15: years sixty two has never won. She could beat Milicky

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Speaker 15: Madison from a Nora who puts well a lot on display,

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Speaker 15: shall we say, while failing Oscar Campaign of the Year

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Speaker 15: certainly goes to the movie Amelia Perez, which began so

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Speaker 15: very strongly and has a lot of creative moments that movie.

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Speaker 15: But Who's transtar Sophia Gascon was found to have made

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Speaker 15: concerning social media posts, so be careful what goes online.

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Speaker 2: You enjoy the day, we'll see Wednesday. Appreciate it. Man

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Speaker 2: Ach and by the way, works for Wetter. They're up

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Speaker 2: with three noombs yet again, so every year they get nominated.

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Speaker 2: But matt ac and from WET, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: with us after seven o'clock. This morning with Oscar's day.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that poll I promised you from CNN

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Speaker 2: this morning, conducted by SSRIs. It's the approval disapproval, fifty

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Speaker 2: two percent disapprove, forty eight percent approving. Currently it's the

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Speaker 2: same as mettpheb completed, by the way, before the Zelenski

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Speaker 2: meltdown over the weekend. So it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: if anything changes broadly with the Republicans, he can do

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Speaker 2: no wrong ninety percent approval. Broadly, he can't do anything right.

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Speaker 2: With the Democrats ninety percent disapproval, independence, forty one approved,

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Speaker 2: fifty nine percent disapproved. Very your numbers, nine to seven.

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Speaker 1: togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Before we leave America, Mexico went a Nextra diet and

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Speaker 2: I think they got to twenty nine in the and

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of drug lords and they were trying

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Speaker 2: desperately to avoid the sanctions that are coming in the week.

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Speaker 2: And they said, how about if we give you a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of drug lords, And he said, she'll bring

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Speaker 2: them so they'll be off to Gleantanamo never to be

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Speaker 2: seen again or something. So it's a major win. But

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Speaker 2: also I note over the weekend that Atlanta Fed's GDP

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Speaker 2: now track of this is the live GDP, it's tracking

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Speaker 2: to shrink in the first quarter, to the US economy shrinking,

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Speaker 2: So that's going to be a worry. And then this

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Speaker 2: weird business if you haven't followed this over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: So Eric Adams, who's the bloke in charge of New

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Speaker 2: York by way of the mayor roalt. He's crooked, is

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Speaker 2: a crooked thing anyway. So who's going to challenge him

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Speaker 2: in the primaries which are coming up in June. None

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Speaker 2: other than Andrew Cuomo. And you go, well, hold on,

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Speaker 2: who's Andrew Cuomo? And you go, well, hang on, Andrew

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Speaker 2: Cuomo was the governor of New York. Now why is

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Speaker 2: he not the governor of New York anymore? Well, because

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Speaker 2: he was pinching bums and doing all sorts of weird

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Speaker 2: stuff in the office, and they had an investigation booted

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Speaker 2: him out. So he was a sexual deviant. Who's now

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Speaker 2: decided he wants to replace the reprobator's mayor. City of

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Speaker 2: eight million people, and those of the two bes, you

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Speaker 2: can come up with five away from seven.

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Speaker 3: Well, the ins are the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business favor take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: The Robert Half twenty twenty five Salary Guide, What have

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Speaker 2: we got here? Growing demands for higher salaries? No, is

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Speaker 2: there really inflation? Is lingering? Increased responsibilities on current workers

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Speaker 2: who've picked up the slack from companies that have let

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Speaker 2: other people go. Of those who participated in the survey,

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Speaker 2: eighty six percent so they were planning to ask for

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Speaker 2: a pay rise this year. I mean, you know, why not.

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Speaker 2: It also found that seventy percent are professionals reported harder

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Speaker 2: than ever to get that pay rise. Eighty six percent

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Speaker 2: who said they would ask for a rise, they were asking, well,

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Speaker 2: why are they doing it well? Thirty seven percent because

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Speaker 2: they exceeded their performance goals. A third said should keep

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Speaker 2: up with the cost of living. Not really good enough

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Speaker 2: argument unless you're a union thirty two percent. Larger workload

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Speaker 2: thirty one percent, so they've upskilled, twenty eight percent they

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Speaker 2: wanted a promotional eleven percent they expect to rise every year.

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Speaker 2: Ten percent they had to rise a long time ago,

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Speaker 2: but it was already really really long time ago. Seven

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Speaker 2: percent thought this salary was too low as it was

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Speaker 2: so very tough for businesses out there, So what do

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Speaker 2: we know? Forty six percent of workers who don't get

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Speaker 2: their pay rise, so they will stick it out and

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Speaker 2: maintain a good work ethic to show they deserve it.

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Speaker 2: That's good. Thirty six percent say they'll ask for other

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Speaker 2: benefits like more time offul flexible schedules, or remote working.

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Speaker 2: Thirty percent say they're going to work harder to prove

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Speaker 2: that they should get a pay rise. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: work harder so I can get a pay rise next year.

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Speaker 2: Thirty five percent say stuff you, I'm looking for a

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Speaker 2: new job, and twenty eight percent say they would burst

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Speaker 2: into tears and stamp their feet. So I might have

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Speaker 2: made that last number up. So they decide for the life.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't work out why they haven't done

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Speaker 2: this before. So if you want to be a copy

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Speaker 2: you got to go to PORI Rue. Not that that's

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Speaker 2: the end of the world, but it's this one stop shop.

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Speaker 2: Why not have it elsewhere around the country. I don't

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Speaker 2: know where the major population is, like one and a

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Speaker 2: half million, Auckland. So anyway, they're opening up a training

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Speaker 2: facility in Auckland. We'll talk to the police Commissioner about

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Speaker 2: this obvious the meltdown over the weekend in the war

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Speaker 2: and where all this goes and what it all means

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Speaker 2: and the feel good story of the weekend this Ryan

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Speaker 2: Peete who won the New Zealand golf ope and if

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Speaker 2: you don't know the backstory is it is absolutely brilliant.

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Speaker 2: He's with us just eight o'clock as well.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day on

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Speaker 1: my casting breakfast with the range rover Alave designed to

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Speaker 1: intrigue and use togs dead.

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Speaker 2: Be only seven past seven. So Police hoping a new

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Speaker 2: training facility in Auckland. Currently everyone of course spends twenty

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Speaker 2: weeks at the college in pary Rue. The Police Commissioner

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Speaker 2: Richard Chambers with us on this good Morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Good morning to night. I can't work out why they

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Speaker 2: didn't do this years ago. It makes perfect sense, doesn't it.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, well it does, Mike. I mean we have been

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Speaker 19: able to manage with the porri Uh College, but you know,

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Speaker 19: we have got a huge, ambitious target of five hundred

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Speaker 19: by the end of the year and we're working really hard.

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Speaker 19: And what we realized with the Auckland facility is two things.

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Speaker 16: Really.

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Speaker 19: The first thing is that a bunch of people who

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Speaker 19: want to join our organization, they want to be police officers,

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Speaker 19: and going to the college for twenty weeks for a

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Speaker 19: number of them is actually quite challenging. And the other

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Speaker 19: reason is we want to increase capacity because right now

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Speaker 19: we've got over three hundred troops at the college in

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Speaker 19: porri Rua and we're full and that's fantastic. So we

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Speaker 19: want to create a bit of extra capacity and so they.

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Speaker 2: Will be able to stay at home if you're from

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Speaker 2: Auckland and then go to the College of today. Is

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Speaker 2: that how it works.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it's the option we're giving them. You know, we

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Speaker 19: want the best of the best, so we don't want

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Speaker 19: to miss out on anyone who can't come to the

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Speaker 19: pariri Orua facility just because it's hard for them to

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Speaker 19: leave home for twenty weeks. We want them to give

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Speaker 19: them options. We want the best of the best, So

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Speaker 19: we're happy that they go home in the evenings be

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Speaker 19: with their families. So long as they train, they pass

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Speaker 19: and they've become to the police officer.

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Speaker 2: So I note over the weekend you're spreaking this, but

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Speaker 2: we seem to be in this angsty debate. You've still

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Speaker 2: got nine months to go or eight months or whatever

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Speaker 2: it is to get to your five hundred. Are we

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Speaker 2: getting a little tripped up on this? I mean, what

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Speaker 2: you're doing and how you do it surely is more

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Speaker 2: important than whether you get four ninety nine or five

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Speaker 2: oh one or this has got politics written all over it,

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Speaker 2: hasn't it.

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Speaker 19: Well, Mike. The thing is that it's an ambitious target

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Speaker 19: to have a five hundred extra police staff by the

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Speaker 19: end of November this year, but I'm confident we will

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Speaker 19: get there. We are working really, really hard, and it's

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Speaker 19: not just about those that we're recruiting for the first

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Speaker 19: time into New Zealand Police. I had the privilege just

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Speaker 19: a couple of weeks ago being in Australia, book a

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Speaker 19: moment to go and catch up with some of my

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Speaker 19: former colleagues who are over there now, and was delighted

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Speaker 19: when a number of them said to me, actually, what,

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Speaker 19: you know what, I want to come home. I miss

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Speaker 19: my country, I miss my home and I miss New

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Speaker 19: Zealand Police. So whether it's new recruits coming into our

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Speaker 19: organization or former music on police officers who want to

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Speaker 19: come home, I'm open to all opportunities to make sure

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Speaker 19: we hit that target by this.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good. Every time we talk about this, I get a

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Speaker 2: lot of texts on churn. Do you have high churn?

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Speaker 2: And if you do, what's the reason behind it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike.

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Speaker 19: Look, comparatively Police has had a low attrician rates. I

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Speaker 19: think at the moment our five point.

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Speaker 5: Five percent, which is low.

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Speaker 19: But we have had some spikes and attrition over the years.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 19: Obviously there was the Australian Australians came over and took

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Speaker 19: some of our people, which I wasn't particularly happy about,

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Speaker 19: but you know, they want to come home. So we

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Speaker 19: have had spikes such as that. We also had a

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Speaker 19: small gap where we transition to twenty weeks training so

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Speaker 19: we slowed down. So things go up and down, you know,

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Speaker 19: depending on the market. But at the moment, look, we

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Speaker 19: in the sixth month to the end of December last year,

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Speaker 19: we had five thousand applications to join m Zealand Police.

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Speaker 19: So we're having we're you know, we're in a very

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Speaker 19: positive trijectory at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Good to hear, Richard Jamis, Police Commissioner. It

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Speaker 2: is ten minutes past seven past exit. The end of

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Speaker 2: the spectrum turns out we love meth. These new figure

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Speaker 2: show a monthly peak of thirty nine point two kilos

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Speaker 2: recorded in October, which apparently as well a both historic

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Speaker 2: averages Massive University drug researcher Chris Wilkins as well. This Chris,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 21: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: What does thirty nine kilos mean that? I mean, who's

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Speaker 2: is that?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: Thousands? Tens of thousands of people or hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 2: of people? What's a mean?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it's tens of thousands of people. So a usable

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Speaker 21: dose is usually zero point one grams, so thirty nine

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Speaker 21: kilos is a lot, but I think if we just

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Speaker 21: zoom out of it. So the figures for the last

745
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Speaker 21: quarter was one hundred and eight percent higher than the

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Speaker 21: previous four quarters, and the one before that was thirty

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Speaker 21: one percent more than the last four quarters. So we're

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Speaker 21: on a trajectory of massively increasing consumption and that's combined

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Speaker 21: with declining prices significantly, So thirty six percent decline in

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Speaker 21: the price of a gram of myth over the last

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Speaker 21: five years. So we're really up against some really horrible

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Speaker 21: numbers here.

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Speaker 2: Do we know how this works? Are we on meth

754
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Speaker 2: because we've dropped something else or we're on the something else,

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Speaker 2: plus we're topping it up with a bit of myth.

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Speaker 21: I would say this is a supply side effect. So

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Speaker 21: essentially there's been a massive increase and stuaricized production of

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Speaker 21: methampied I mean traditionally from Southeast Asia, but now increasingly

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Speaker 21: from other parts of the world like South America and Mexico.

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Speaker 21: And essentially what we're getting is so you know, the

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Speaker 21: seizures have increased ten times in the last three or

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Speaker 21: five years. So this is really supply, very cheap myth

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Speaker 21: that can be easily manufactured at low price, and we're

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Speaker 21: just getting swamped and myth.

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Speaker 2: Essentially, I assume given you do wastewater testing, you can

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Speaker 2: pinpoint the geography. Is that fair or is it everywhere

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Speaker 2: up and down the country?

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Speaker 21: I gather it's everywhere up the country. I mean there

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Speaker 21: is regions where myth is particularly high. And one of

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Speaker 21: these things, I think one of the really interesting things

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Speaker 21: that came out of the wastewater testing is that we

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Speaker 21: could see that the places we wouldn't expect a lot

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Speaker 21: of myths, like rural areas and small towns, are actually

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Speaker 21: some often some of the highest per capita in myth,

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Speaker 21: and that's really a wake up call in terms of,

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Speaker 21: you know, targeting local supply where you've got a blatant

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Speaker 21: level of supply semi public and everyone knows what's going on,

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Speaker 21: but there's just been no action.

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Speaker 2: I find this really depressing, do you.

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Speaker 21: Yeah? I think this is a real wake up call

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Speaker 21: because and it's partly a technological driven thing that we've

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Speaker 21: now got synthetic drugs like myth that can be produced

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Speaker 21: on large scale at very low price. But also there's

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Speaker 21: other changes in the market, like a digital market. You know,

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Speaker 21: encrypted messaging apps, dark nets and social media have been

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Speaker 21: used now in a drug market that's very different from

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Speaker 21: what we might remember. What I remember is, you know,

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Speaker 21: as the teenager, so you know, these are all things

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Speaker 21: to keep her aware of.

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Speaker 2: She's a Chris appreciate it. I don't remember the drug market. Cool.

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Speaker 13: No, you know what they say, if you can remember it,

792
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Speaker 13: you weren't part.

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Speaker 2: Of It's thirteen past seven tasking. It's got third world

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Speaker 2: vibes of this country, doesn't it. By the way, residential

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Speaker 2: property investors are back. I told you this a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks ago, and we talked to one of the

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Speaker 2: mortgage brokers, and he said, yeah, I'm not sure about it,

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Speaker 2: but turns out I was right, borrowing almost twice as

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Speaker 2: much as they did last year. One point two billion.

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Speaker 2: This is the value of the bank's new mortgage lending

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Speaker 2: to investors. This is between Jan. Twenty four and Jan

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Speaker 2: twenty five. One point two billion.

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Speaker 3: Is that a lot?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is only ever beaten back in twenty twenty

805
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Speaker 2: one at one point six billion or twenty sixteen a

806
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Speaker 2: one point three billion, So the investors are back. Fourteen

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Speaker 2: past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: At be Mike. So we can't hit our own kids lunch,

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Speaker 2: but we can afford the method, says I. It's a

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Speaker 2: frustrating business. Seventeen past seven. Another day at the office

813
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Speaker 2: for the geniuses at where to workshop. This year they

814
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Speaker 2: got three nominations for the Oscars, Alien Romulus, Better Man

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Speaker 2: and Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Head of

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Speaker 2: Video Effects, Matt Haigen as will as Matt, morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Good morning mine. I remember doing interviews over many, many

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Speaker 2: years and you guys every year get nominated. Does it

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Speaker 2: become sort of run of the mill and something would

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Speaker 2: be wrong if you didn't get nominated. Is that the

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Speaker 2: sort of excellence you dabble in it Wetter these days?

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Speaker 22: Oh no, we never take it for granted.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 22: It is great getting this level of recognition. Three, you know,

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Speaker 22: three of the films nominated for visual effects this year

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Speaker 22: are projects that Wetter Effects worked on. You need to

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Speaker 22: pick up one thing you said in the intro. There, mate,

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Speaker 22: it's Wetter Effects Jackson's digital visual effects and animation company

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Speaker 22: that we're celebrating today, not not wet A Workshop, which

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Speaker 22: is Sir Richard Taylor's physical effects workshop.

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Speaker 2: My confusingly, it is confusing that that that's that's on

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Speaker 2: makes sell I apologize, but that the workload generally in

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Speaker 2: the movie industry. How's how's it feeling at the moment.

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Speaker 22: It's you know, it's challenging times. People are going to

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Speaker 22: the cinema less there. The Hollywood strikes had a real

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Speaker 22: impact on our business. We feel that we are digging

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Speaker 22: a way out of that. There's more films going into production,

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Speaker 22: but in our particular area where we never can take

839
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Speaker 22: it easy. That there there are always headwinds and so

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Speaker 22: to you know, to have an opportunity to celebrate the

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Speaker 22: way we do today is a really is a really

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Speaker 22: great opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Where are we at tech wise? Is it evolutionary or

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Speaker 2: revolutionary in terms of advance I think it's gone.

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Speaker 22: From being revolutionary to being evolutionary. I think we're we're

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Speaker 22: consolidating as an industry. We You know, when I first

847
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Speaker 22: started at Whether Effects thirty years ago, we had nice

848
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Speaker 22: here what we were doing. We were making it up

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Speaker 22: as we went along. We were getting a project that

850
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Speaker 22: had like King Kong, a giant, hairy gorilla, and then

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Speaker 22: we were writing the software to do the as we

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Speaker 22: went But but these days it's more about adding finesse,

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Speaker 22: adding quality. You know, we we have a very established

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Speaker 22: pipeline now for this kind of work, and we just

855
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Speaker 22: have our great technology and research department adding fines and

856
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Speaker 22: adding quality with the work that they do for us

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Speaker 22: in that space.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely fantastic. Will go well to today. We wish you

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Speaker 2: all the very best. Matt Aichen, who is the head

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Speaker 2: of Video Effects that we're to FX three nominations today.

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Speaker 2: Mike McLachlan Armstrong running one into it's the PETZ. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's early days. I don't want to confuse everybody, but

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Speaker 2: it's McLaughlin, Armstrong and Dixon. Of course all three. New

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Speaker 2: Zealand is a right up opening race in the indie season.

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Speaker 2: McLachlin got poll. The reason I don't want to confuse

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Speaker 2: you is there's petting. A lot of petting goes on

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Speaker 2: in these races.

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Speaker 23: Pretty much got through the first round of it, though,

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Speaker 23: and it's still McLaughlin and Armstrong one and two, and

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Speaker 23: Dixon's coming out of the pets.

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Speaker 2: A ninth fantastic if Armstrong gets. If Armstrong's on the podium,

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Speaker 2: that in many respects is the biggest story than McLachlin winning.

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Speaker 2: Sarah Fitt in Battle CEO at far Meat quit on Friday,

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Speaker 2: note the day Friday was hopefully always coming. Her reputation

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Speaker 2: was unrecoverable after the lecon communications around Rachel Smaller. You

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Speaker 2: The language and those emails, really I meant, the haughty tone,

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Speaker 2: by a woman who had to go. So it's all

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Speaker 2: worked out. But then, but then Caleb Clark all black.

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Speaker 2: So last week we asked what it takes to be

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Speaker 2: sacked as in all black. Andrew Bailey politician doesn't come

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Speaker 2: close to breaking anything far less law, but two odd

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Speaker 2: incidents do women because of expectations around behavior. Fit was

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Speaker 2: damaged because of her behavior. Since the Clark story last week,

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Speaker 2: our knowledge of events has gone from speeding and failing

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Speaker 2: to stop for the police too, the revelation he was

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Speaker 2: doing one hundred and twenty in a fifty k zone,

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Speaker 2: he ran a red light, he had the helicopter chasing him.

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Speaker 2: This is all new news. They pinged him at eighty,

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Speaker 2: he's sped up to one hundred and twenty. He's on

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Speaker 2: his bike. He's pled guilty, as lawyer wants to discharge

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Speaker 2: without conviction. If we accept, and I only do so reluctantly,

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Speaker 2: by the way, But if we accept that profile comes

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Speaker 3: I e.

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Speaker 2: Rugby player, but also community leader, politician answerable to the public, CEO,

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Speaker 2: running public money, all that sort of stuff. What's the

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Speaker 2: trigger for cancelation of contract once the court has dealt

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Speaker 2: with you? If laws have been broken in this specific case,

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Speaker 2: if evading police is not sackable, what exactly, as an

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Speaker 2: all black would you have to do to lose you John? Now,

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Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I don't actually personally want Clark sacked.

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Speaker 2: I'm not out to get him or anything. But I

938
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Speaker 2: also feel sorry for Bailey. Even though I myself have

939
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Speaker 2: high standards and expectations of people, I still feel sorry

940
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Speaker 2: for Bailey fit. I won't miss I found her treatment

941
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Speaker 2: in those emails most distasteful and spoke volumes about it.

942
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Speaker 2: But surely Clark is serious running from the cops and

943
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Speaker 2: in a dangerous fashion, is flat out at crime. So

944
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Speaker 2: if he survives, does he survive because all blacks are

945
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Speaker 2: untouchable or because that sort of crime is no longer

946
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Speaker 2: that big a deal? Asking now, I was under the

947
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Speaker 2: understanding the emergency summit was for Europeans, but obviously justin

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Speaker 2: I'm about to leave the building any day now, Trudeau,

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Speaker 2: he decides to turn up anyway, is he with Ukraine?

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Speaker 20: We're going to continue to be there to support Ukraine

951
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Speaker 20: as necessary, with whatever it takes, for as long as

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Speaker 20: it takes, because Ukraine is not just defending its own territories,

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Speaker 20: defending the very principles and values that underpin all of

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Speaker 20: our democracies.

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Speaker 3: So as we look at what's.

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Speaker 20: Going to be necessary in the coming years, I can

957
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Speaker 20: assure you that Canada and Canadians will be there.

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Speaker 2: I will be asking lux and tomorrow because we stand

959
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Speaker 2: with Ukraine as well. I think we all stand with Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: But at some point you've got to come to the

961
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Speaker 2: real reality that if you think you stand with Ukraine

962
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Speaker 2: with the idea that you drive Russia back out of

963
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Speaker 2: the bit of Ukraine they grabbed in the early days,

964
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Speaker 2: you're dreaming, because how long do you want that water

965
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Speaker 2: go for and how much is that going to cost

966
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Speaker 2: and how many people are going to have to die

967
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Speaker 2: before you inevitably get dragged to the conclusion that it

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Speaker 2: is not happening. Now you can be doubtful as to

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Speaker 2: what Trump wants. There are no concessions, as we've already

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Speaker 2: heard this morning apparently from Russia, none whatsoever. So maybe

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Speaker 2: ultimately this thing goes nowhere. But this is a stalemate,

972
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Speaker 2: a big, fat, ugly meat grinding stalemate, and just giving

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Speaker 2: more and more loaned money to Ukraine is heading nowhere

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Speaker 2: good anyway. We'll talk to Luction about this in the

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Speaker 2: program tomorrow Meantime News This.

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Speaker 1: Next New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic

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Speaker 1: asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate finding the buyers others

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Speaker 2: us before right commentary box at Toss Andrews Evil Jason

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Speaker 2: Tyne after eight Meantime twenty three minutes away from mate.

985
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Speaker 2: So where does the war go after the White House

986
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Speaker 2: melt down? We have an emergency summit in London over died.

987
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Speaker 2: Of course, Zelensky has met Starma, also met the King,

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Speaker 2: got plenty of encouraging words of support, but words don't

989
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Speaker 2: win wars, and that's where the Americans fit. And from

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Speaker 2: the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Senior advisor Mark

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Speaker 2: Kensians with US. Mark, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 16: Thanks for having me on the show.

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Speaker 2: Not at all. Did you see it unfold live in

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Speaker 2: the White House on Saturday?

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Speaker 16: I did. It was incredible and appalling.

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Speaker 24: From whose point of view, well, I think from most observers.

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Speaker 24: And this was a very uncomfortable exchange. Zelensky was trying

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Speaker 24: to explain himself.

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Speaker 16: He was cut off. These kinds of exchanges I think

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Speaker 16: are not uncommon in diplomacy, but they're done behind closed doors,

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Speaker 16: not in front of the press.

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Speaker 2: That is true. Do you have a view as to

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Speaker 2: whether jd. Vance was there as an attack dog to

1004
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Speaker 2: set that off or not?

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Speaker 16: One certainly gets that ceiling. Of course, there's been a

1006
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Speaker 16: lot of speculation about whether that was true. He did

1007
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Speaker 16: seem ready to be harshly critical and jumped very quickly

1008
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Speaker 16: on Zelensky. So my personal suspicion as he came in

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Speaker 16: ready to be hostile, but hard to say for sure.

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Speaker 2: Mark Route, who said out of the weekend, as Zelensky's

1011
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Speaker 2: got to repair the damage with Trump, do you see

1012
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 2: a way back to get America back at the table

1013
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Speaker 2: in some way, shape or form or not.

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Speaker 16: That's very hard to say. This meeting was very disappointing,

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Speaker 16: and the administration has been very skeptical about aid to Ukraine.

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Speaker 16: They become increasingly hostile to Ukraine, saying uh, you know,

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Speaker 16: a variety of unfavorable things, and of course uh saying

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Speaker 16: favorable things about Russia and Putin.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 16: I think there's going to be a lot of effort

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Speaker 16: to repair the relationship. I think you'll see the Europeans

1022
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Speaker 16: and others weighing in. I think that Zelensky will uh

1023
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Speaker 16: uh eat a little crow to use an American expression,

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Speaker 16: I mean he will apologize and uh, you know, try

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Speaker 16: to offer some you know, some you know, something to

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Speaker 16: make the Americans or make the White House feel better.

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Speaker 16: Maybe sign this trade agreement, uh, this mining agreement. I'm

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Speaker 16: sure we'll see something, uh to try to repair the relationship.

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Speaker 16: In an extreme situation, you know, maybe Zelensky would would

1030
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Speaker 16: stand down. I don't see that happening, but they were

1031
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Speaker 16: clearly pushing for that.

1032
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Speaker 2: The logic seems to be as regards the minerals, once

1033
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Speaker 2: we sign up, the Americans are on the ground. Any

1034
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Speaker 2: why they're looking after their interests. That's the security guarantee

1035
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Speaker 2: of sorts. Is that the way you see it or not?

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Speaker 16: Well, it's a partial security guarantee. It does bring the

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Speaker 16: two countries more close together. It puts American capital at risk.

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Speaker 16: It brings Americans into Ukraine as part of these exchanges.

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Speaker 16: But it's not in itself enough. It would have to

1040
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Speaker 16: be complemented by some sort of weapons deals to re

1041
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Speaker 16: arm the Ukrainians, perhaps for some peacekeeping force or something

1042
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Speaker 16: like that. But it is a peace and Zelenski's desires

1043
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Speaker 16: for natal membership I think are just not going to happen.

1044
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Speaker 16: The United States would oppose it. I think many of

1045
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Speaker 16: the Europeans are uncom sabot with it.

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Speaker 23: Also.

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Speaker 2: Also, then you get Russia itself, and I just had

1048
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Speaker 2: a meeting with Putin. The Americans had a meeting with Putin.

1049
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Speaker 2: And the suggestion is there's not a single thing that

1050
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Speaker 2: a mirror that Russia is prepared to back down on

1051
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Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. Is that ultimately a

1052
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Speaker 2: sticking point.

1053
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Speaker 16: Well, it certainly could be. A lot depends on the

1054
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Speaker 16: negotiators negotiations themselves. I think that they'll, you know, they're

1055
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Speaker 16: going to push for some sort of cease fire along

1056
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Speaker 16: the current front lines. One of the negotiators Trump negotiators

1057
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Speaker 16: put out an article a while ago suggesting that, I mean,

1058
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Speaker 16: the Russians would have to back off their desire to

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Speaker 16: take over the whole country, uh, to neutralize it. You know,

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Speaker 16: right now, there's not a whole lot of overlap between

1061
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Speaker 16: the two sides. But on the other hand, they're also

1062
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Speaker 16: very exhausted, and Trump will be pushing both.

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Speaker 2: Of them very horrid exactly. Make appreciate your expertise very much.

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Speaker 2: Marke Knton, who's the senior advisor at the Center for

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Speaker 2: Strategic International Studies in Washington, d C. Eighteen minutes away

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Speaker 2: from eight pask I kind of mentioned it before, but

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Speaker 2: back to the oscars and wetter EFX and all that's

1068
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Speaker 2: going on, We've got the goodie bag today. So it's

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Speaker 2: particularly unusual goodie bag to me. Normally it's you look

1070
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Speaker 2: at stuff and you go, oh my god, that's quite good. Anyway,

1071
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Speaker 2: this year they claim it can be up to a

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Speaker 2: couple of hundred thousand dollars of approximate value for the

1073
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Speaker 2: goodie bag. This is for the Oscar nominees. You've got

1074
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Speaker 2: a two hundred and forty dollars cutting board from John

1075
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Speaker 2: Boose though I've never heard of reversible design, edge grain construction,

1076
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Speaker 2: and generous thickness. Two hundred and forty dollars.

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Speaker 13: Cut So what's it made out of?

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Speaker 2: Don't know. It doesn't say no, it doesn't say rubber wood.

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Speaker 2: Let's say it's a rubber wood board just for you.

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Speaker 23: Go rubberwood over bamboo.

1081
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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, but turn and forty dollars. I mean, you've

1082
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Speaker 2: got you're an Oscar nominee and they're giving you a

1083
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Speaker 2: chopping board.

1084
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Speaker 13: Sam's waving his hands around like.

1085
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Speaker 2: Sam, Sam's got that's an interesting Sam's got a two

1086
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: hundred and forty dollar chopping board. But it is never

1087
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: dining table. Yeah, it's incredible. Eye luxury pocket squares from

1088
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: Daniel Ashley, value at fifteen hundred and seventy I don't know.

1089
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 2: That's a lot of pocket squares. Worth fifteen hundred and

1090
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: seventy dollars or just one pocket square worth a fortune

1091
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 2: fifty two hundred dollars stay at Barcelona's five star Cotton

1092
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: House Hotel. I'm sure that's very nice. Then there's a

1093
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand dollars I don't know where they get

1094
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: the value from twenty five thousand dollars prize, in which

1095
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 2: a genealogist builds your family tree back for several.

1096
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 13: Generations until they find something interesting.

1097
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 2: Sure, three hundred and five dollars skin care products boring?

1098
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 13: They that seems low compared to.

1099
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 2: Precisely three and a half thousand dollars virtual wellness retreat

1100
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 2: from a three d wellness retreat. Wow, I don't really

1101
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: think it's worth getting nominated for the Oscars to be

1102
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: Frank seventeen away.

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Speaker 1: From eight, the Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

1104
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powerd By News.

1105
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 3: Talks it be.

1106
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: Once again we go back to the Indy Cars. McLaughlin.

1107
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: He's not leading, but given all things and the number

1108
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: of pit stops, etc. He should win unless something goes wrong.

1109
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 2: He's had his final what should be his final pit stop,

1110
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: and he should be able to go to the end,

1111
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: he's currently fifth. It will evolve in a way that

1112
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: hopefully he wins, and if he doesn't win, Dixon might win.

1113
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: But Armstrong hasn't gone well. He's out, so that's unfortunately.

1114
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: He had a problem with his car, which is back.

1115
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: Can I just while I'm on this business, I mentioned

1116
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: briefly the F one testing which came to an end

1117
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 2: in Bahrain on Friday our time. I'm always interested. Tremendous

1118
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: a good feedback from red Bull. Internally. I know they

1119
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: love Lawson. He's embedded in the side brilliantly. He's giving

1120
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,959
Speaker 2: the engineers in particular, fantastic feedback. They felt really good

1121
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: about what was going on. But a piece I read

1122
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: over the weekend from an international observer they're worried about him.

1123
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: In fact, will Lawson see out the sea, isn't it?

1124
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 2: Red Bull? Was the question? And they go back to

1125
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: the Carlos Science thing and said, why wouldn't they have

1126
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: taken Carlos Science he was available? Why wouldn't they have

1127
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: promoted Yuki Snowd who's got vastly more experienced. There seems

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00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: to be a real body of thought, and I just

1129
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: worry that where patriarch a little bit patriotic in it.

1130
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: In other words, oh, Lawson, we love him, fantastic, He's

1131
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: going to be amazing, all that sort of stuff. Whereas

1132
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: you know, people who have no vested interest whatsoever have

1133
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: a look at this and go what they're expecting of

1134
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: them is nigh on impossible, in other words, to keep

1135
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: up with Verstapan And the general commentary from testing was

1136
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: that when Verstappin got in the car, he was faster.

1137
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: There was no question he was faster, and Red Bull

1138
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: were genuinely competitive when Verstapn was in the car. He

1139
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: was there all of day three. Lawson was there all

1140
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 2: of day two. Lawson was fine. There was nothing wrong

1141
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: with Lawson, but he didn't set the world on fire. Ultimately,

1142
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: he never and this is their observation, not mine, he

1143
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: never looked as comfortable as Forstappen behind the wheel, that's

1144
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: not so rising. He hasn't got the experience of his

1145
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: staff in of course throughout the early part of the season.

1146
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: That should continue. They think the bottom line forum will

1147
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: be how we're shaping up after eight or nine rounds.

1148
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: It would be an achievement. Brackets and a surprise. If

1149
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: he is in place at the end of the season,

1150
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: so that is a bit of a reality check. So

1151
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: we watch and wait with the Great Delements. But as

1152
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,479
Speaker 2: we said earlier, it's just a couple of days until

1153
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: Drive to Survive drops and then we're off to Melbourne

1154
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: and Marshall. In the latter part of March eleven.

1155
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: Away from eight the make Asking Breakfast with the range

1156
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: Rover Villa News togs had been I'm.

1157
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: Very disappointed because Ryan Peak was going to be on

1158
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: the program. But Ryan obviously went out and had a

1159
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 2: big night last night and his phones off and no

1160
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: one can get hold of him, so that's disappointed. Was

1161
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: not disappointing for him, He's probably having the time of

1162
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: his life, but disappointing for me because I wanted to

1163
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 2: congratulate him and I have I only I just happened to.

1164
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: Here are a couple of things I was watching over

1165
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: the weekend. It was sort of an in and out

1166
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 2: kind of thing because I had other stuff on. Obviously,

1167
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: the Warriors, what crap, I mean, what an unadulterated, inexcusable

1168
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: crap that was. It's nothing wrong. I defended them many

1169
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: times over the years in terms of an exciting game.

1170
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes they were a bit slow to start, they make

1171
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 2: a bit of a comeback, could go either way, two

1172
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: or three points in the end, you go, oh, well,

1173
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's not the end of the world, etc.

1174
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 2: They weren't competitive, they didn't look like they wanted to

1175
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 2: be there. Even if they did want to be there,

1176
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: they didn't look like they knew how to play the game.

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00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: The whole thing was just a complete and otter waste

1178
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: of time. And I can tell you for nothing, if

1179
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 2: I was one of the thousands of New Zealanders sucked

1180
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: in good who paid money to go over there and

1181
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: watch that, I would be deeply, deeply disappointed in what

1182
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: happened there, and lord knows what it means for the

1183
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: rest of the season. Then I happened to pass through

1184
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: the lounges. The Auckland football was on and we were

1185
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 2: three one up, and I thought, that's good, another good win, fantastic.

1186
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: I come back. I don't know what it was, maybe

1187
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes last three all I'm going, what the hell

1188
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: happened there? Obviously a couple of penalties what happened there,

1189
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: and there's some sort of consternation over whether they were

1190
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: proper penalties. But be that as it may. So then

1191
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: suddenly it's three all. I thought, well, this is rubbish,

1192
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 2: and so I sit down and I'm sort of gripped

1193
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: at this point, and then we score, so it's four three.

1194
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: I think, well, that's the end of that, because you've

1195
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: got next to no time left until of course, and

1196
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: this is my problem with football. I've got two problems

1197
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: with football. Football are problem number one, No one ever

1198
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: scores can't say that this weekend at four all. Problem

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Speaker 2: number two. They suddenly go and invent time on at

1200
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 2: the end, and so they're adding nine minutes. I've never

1201
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: heard of nine minutes being added on, but anyway, they

1202
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: added nine on and sure enough the other side goes

1203
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: and score, so suddenly.

1204
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 8: It's four all.

1205
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: So that's where a drawer is a loss, because there

1206
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: is no excuse for Auckland getting that draw. They should

1207
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 2: have won and won easily. Then I come to the

1208
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: golf and this is coming to fruition because you get

1209
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: to the last hold. So just to explain, because this

1210
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: is important, this guy Peek is out of jail. He's

1211
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: a former bikey. He's taken up golf, was a very

1212
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: good junior player and took up golf once he came

1213
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: out of prison, and so he has and his caddies

1214
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: coming down. There's a massive tie, four or five way tie.

1215
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: They're all on twenty two under, and so on the

1216
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: seven tenth, which is a par five, he's got a

1217
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: big drive, puts it on the green, puts down, so

1218
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: he's birding, tap in for birdie. So he goes onto

1219
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: the final hole with a one shot lead. This is

1220
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: a life changing situation for him. Three hundred and thirty

1221
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars first prize money. He's never seen three

1222
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five thousand dollars in his life. This

1223
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: is literally going to change his career. He's talking to

1224
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: his caddy. He's talking too much to his caddy. He's

1225
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: got his notebook out, and his caddy's got his notebook out.

1226
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: In every shot, they're talking about it, re talking about it,

1227
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: changing their mind, talking about it again. So you've got this.

1228
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,959
Speaker 2: The nerves are building, The nerves are building, the nerves

1229
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 2: are building. You come to the eighteenth hole, last holds

1230
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: a past three hundred and fifty something meters. In the

1231
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: first three rounds, he's landed the ball on the green

1232
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 2: every time, talking to the caddy, talking to the caddy,

1233
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: Caddy talking to him, caddy talking to him, and him

1234
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: talking to the caddy. You think he's too nervous. Do

1235
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: you pull a seventy, you pull an eight? I think

1236
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: he pulled an eate anyway, because he's a left. He

1237
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: dragged it and he dragged it off to the site.

1238
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: Didn't put it on the dance floor. He put it

1239
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: off to the right of the green. So he's off.

1240
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: He's got a chip. Not the end of the world.

1241
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: He's pin high, but he's got a chip. So he

1242
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: goes to chip, talks to the caddy. Catty talks to himself,

1243
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: far too much talking, going oga, mate, you're too nervous,

1244
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 2: You're too nervous. So he chips. He leaves it short.

1245
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: I reckon fifteen feet. So if he gets the put,

1246
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: he wins. If he misses, he's in a four or

1247
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: five way tie. If he's in a four or five

1248
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: way tie, he would have got eaten up because he

1249
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: would have cracked mentally. I'm absolutely convinced he would have

1250
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: cracked mentally and he would have lost. No change of

1251
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: life scenario for him. Fifteen foot put, he's over it,

1252
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: drains it, and he explodes and it's at that moment

1253
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: that you love sport because you can see his life changing.

1254
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: He realizes his life's changing. He's won it, he's held

1255
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: it together, he's sunk it, and he doesn't have to

1256
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 2: go to a playoff. Greatest moment of sport for the

1257
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: whole weekend. And I could have worked all of that

1258
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: through with him, just the way I did there, except

1259
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: he wasn't here because he went out and got pissed.

1260
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: So anyway, that's the way it goes. But we will

1261
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 2: talk some more sport with Andrew and Jason after the news,

1262
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: which is mixed. He reduced talks head be.

1263
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 5: One of the net.

1264
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking was insightful, engaging and idle the Mic Hosking

1265
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities, life your Way, news talks,

1266
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Speaker 1: head Beams.

1267
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Speaker 7: Sprung Room. It is no wrong, no wrong, Come times

1268
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 7: the honers hang on one twenty nine in.

1269
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: A Froner ends on Brillan Brown went for the tackle,

1270
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: missed the tackle, picked the.

1271
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 13: Ball up and scores forty nine points to thirty four.

1272
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 9: The referee said we've had enough.

1273
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 25: The Blues will take the points here.

1274
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 10: They have beaten the home side by thirty three points

1275
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 10: to twenty nine.

1276
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 25: You cannot write scrips like this one. They would be

1277
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 25: found betting. You have been too far fe all ONDFC

1278
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 25: four and l United four.

1279
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 5: They have come here with a mission and they have

1280
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 5: run over the Warriors thirty points to eight.

1281
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 13: Then that's it.

1282
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: We just playing another wrong line to the other far

1283
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: too clever forehead, let me pray.

1284
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 3: That is it for New Zealand, India. Who's got top

1285
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 3: of the table.

1286
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking breakfast

1287
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

1288
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: over fifty years.

1289
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: We got eleven laps to go at Saint Petersburg and

1290
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 2: Florida and McLachlan unfortunately is fourth and as far as

1291
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: I can work out, all the pit stops have done so.

1292
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: Pllow's leading New Garden, followed by Dixon, followed by McLaughlin,

1293
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: followed by Kirkwood anyway, andrew sables with us along with

1294
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: Jason Paine. Good morning Fellas, Good morning, Michael word As,

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Speaker 2: Ryan peaked. Did either of you see the golf yesterday?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I saw it, yep, very very exciting. That final part

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Speaker 2: the nerves were there anyway. The interesting thing he was

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Speaker 2: due on the program about fifteen minutes ago. Not only

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Speaker 2: didn't the answer his phone, but I am led to

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Speaker 2: believe by sources on the ground in that part of

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Speaker 2: the world, they can't actually physically find them. Oh, deare

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Speaker 2: he's missing. They're knocking on doors and they think, where's

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Speaker 2: where's Ryan gone?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, if I.

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Speaker 25: Shot, if I shot twenty three under or whatever it was,

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Speaker 25: I'd probably go missing for a while too.

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Speaker 26: You're and he's got it, and he's got a colorful backstory, obviously,

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Speaker 26: hasn't it.

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Speaker 2: He's got a great backstory. I mean that that's part

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Speaker 2: of what sort of I mean three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: five thousand. You come out of jail and you're taking

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Speaker 2: up golf again and you're sort of, you know, battling

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Speaker 2: away on the tour, and you get to check the

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Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty five thousand, even if it is

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Speaker 2: New Zealand dollars, it is still that's that's that's that's

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Speaker 2: the year done for you, isn't it. You can relax.

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Speaker 26: He was obviously he was obviously a talented junior. Yeahs

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Speaker 26: like he he matched guys like Cam Smurth and others

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Speaker 26: around that era, and then then got on the wrong

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Speaker 26: side of the tracks.

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Speaker 9: But he's come back. It's a fantastic story.

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Speaker 2: That's the good news story, isn't it. Those are the

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Speaker 2: redemption stories you want to hear more of, Jason, just quickly.

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Speaker 2: Both those penalties.

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Speaker 26: So although not long, not long, being out of sing

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Speaker 26: sing with three hundred grand in Queenstown, you're probably going

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Speaker 26: to light it up.

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Speaker 9: Aren't you.

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Speaker 2: Apparently somebody said he was going to have a quiet

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Speaker 2: night in but I think we can all conclude that

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Speaker 2: that probably didn't happen.

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Speaker 26: Don't want to cast aspersions, but you know, celebrations, why.

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Speaker 2: Not exactly, Jason. The two penalties fair call or not.

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Speaker 25: I thought the first one was a penalty. Steve Corriker

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Speaker 25: vehemently disagreed with me when I put that to him afterwards.

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Speaker 25: The second one, I think is probably more contentious either way.

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Speaker 25: When you're four to three up with only a couple

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Speaker 25: of minutes to go on that lead, they'll be more

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Speaker 25: disappointed that they let one and right at the end.

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Speaker 25: So yeah, there's a bit of conversation we had. I

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Speaker 25: thought the first one was a pen the second one

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Speaker 25: more controversial.

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Speaker 2: That that's a draw, that's really a loss? Is that fair?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: They year one up and four to three ahead. Yeah,

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Speaker 25: that's two points dropped.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 25: Carlvett Adelaide coach much happier afterwards that he escaped with

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Speaker 25: a point. Great rivalry. These two are building though, you know,

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Speaker 25: a two all drawer and a four all drawer with

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Speaker 25: late goals plenty of drama. Auckland FC continue to deliver

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Speaker 25: best place to be on a Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 26: I mean it's a little constellation Mike could imagine to

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Speaker 26: the manager and the players. But gee, whiz, you get

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Speaker 26: your money's worth when you go there, whether draw or

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Speaker 26: win a loss. You know, it's it's like it's it's

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Speaker 26: entertainment full stop.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. Do you see anything in the rugby andrew that

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Speaker 2: that let you up over the weekend? Would you like there?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I did a couple of close finishes.

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Speaker 8: I was.

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Speaker 9: Riveted by Mowana haynand Is Frady.

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Speaker 26: I I thought Mowana might come back, and when the

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Speaker 26: artist Sava was just playing on another planet.

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Speaker 9: He's been an outstanding for him the first few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Are they going to win any this year?

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Speaker 26: I think they will I think they were the only

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Speaker 26: problem for Stavia is that he keeps playing the way

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Speaker 26: he is, possibly run out of gas before the All

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Speaker 26: Black season starts. He is just laying everything on the

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Speaker 26: line for his new team, which is fantastic to see.

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Speaker 26: Not surprising are the Blues Hurricanes, good finish, There a

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Speaker 26: couple of cards.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure we hear more about the red card, the hoskinstitute.

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Speaker 26: And then I thoroughly enjoyed the Chiefs Brumbies game in

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Speaker 26: the sun and Hamilton on Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 9: A couple of guys.

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Speaker 26: Really standing out there, including Quinn Tupia, who surely if

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Speaker 26: he keeps playing the way he is, we'll get an

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Speaker 26: All Blacks record. Concern for Damien McKenzie hobbling off, but

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Speaker 26: I thought again might the rugby. There were some close finishes,

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Speaker 26: There was a lot of tries, a lot of entertainment,

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Speaker 26: good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, did you.

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Speaker 9: Jason?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do about the Warriors. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's only the opening game, But.

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Speaker 9: First of all, can I just make a statement year?

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Speaker 9: I don't know if it's your mob's year this year?

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Speaker 2: From what I saw, well, I can't. I can't counter

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Speaker 2: argue with that given what I saw. I mean, there

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Speaker 2: was nothing there that indicated they might be coming to

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Speaker 2: lie will be aware the season started or anything other than.

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Speaker 2: But the thing is, Jason, the crowd weren't there again,

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Speaker 2: So last year they didn't turn up. They didn't turn

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Speaker 2: up this year. If you can't sell in the size

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Speaker 2: of America a sixty five thousand seat stadium out, don't

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Speaker 2: worry about it.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, Look, very few positives from the warrior's point of view.

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Speaker 25: I'll add to that because so many mistackles, not very

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Speaker 25: much on attack even when they were, you know, thirteen v.

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Speaker 25: Twelve the end, just the one try and by that

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Speaker 25: stage the game's gone. On the crowd year, I think

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Speaker 25: you're right. I think there's so much positivity coming out

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Speaker 25: of the clubs that go the NRL, the fans who

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Speaker 25: were there, all that sort of thing. But you're right,

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Speaker 25: you know it's a five year thing, isn't it. So

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Speaker 25: three more years of this it's an increase on last year,

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Speaker 25: I think from in terms of crowd turning up. Whether

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Speaker 25: it's a slow burn, I don't know. I still think

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Speaker 25: there'll be NRL clubs putting their hands up to be

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Speaker 25: part of this, I really do. They'll want to go,

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Speaker 25: They'll want to give their players the experience. Whether the

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Speaker 25: Warriors were a bit overawed by it all, occasion got

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Speaker 25: to them. I don't know, ten days to lick their

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Speaker 25: wounds and back to back home games. They've got to,

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Speaker 25: you know, they got to turn it around. Worst ever

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Speaker 25: first round loss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unforgivable. More in a moment andry several Jason Pine

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Speaker 2: thirteen past.

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Speaker 2: Allow new Garden, Dixon, McLaughlin, Kirkwood. They will run into

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Speaker 2: some back markers before they finished three laps to go,

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Speaker 2: and that may change things. But at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, it's not worked out for McLaughlin the way

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Speaker 2: perhaps you might have thought it was going to do.

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Speaker 2: At the very best start, they haven't got.

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Speaker 9: The pay Mike.

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Speaker 26: Can I go back to this Vegas thing? Look, from

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Speaker 26: what I could see, the top two tiers of that

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Speaker 26: venue were empty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were not a great look.

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Speaker 26: There'd be the odds scattering of locals and triggued locals,

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Speaker 26: but pretty much all of the crab were to groups

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Speaker 26: from New Zealand in the UK, a huge.

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Speaker 2: Number of New Zealanders and poems and a few ex

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Speaker 2: pats and that's about.

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Speaker 26: The NRL's got a lot of money to burn, right,

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 26: They've got a huge marketing budget, they've got a war chest,

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01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 26: so good on them for holding exhibitions the year. But

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01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 26: if they think, like rugby Union, if they ever think

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Speaker 26: their game is going to take off in America, they

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01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 26: are dream and give up. It's a waste of time

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Speaker 26: and a waste of money. Tell you what's vision, good

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01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 26: trip for the lads to go on, but really long term,

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Speaker 26: if they think they're going to gain a foothold in

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Speaker 26: the American market with their sport, they are absolutely dream.

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Speaker 2: I think that's true. And as we said last week

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Speaker 2: Jason with Webster, it's it's like do you really want

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Speaker 2: to go or is it really a distraction? I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're looking to put a feet at start of

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Speaker 2: the season, it's like you want to get on the

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Speaker 2: home ground and win a game, don't you point some

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Speaker 2: more important traveling off halfway around the world and dealing

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Speaker 2: with a time zowner and a different sized field.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: Who was asked that as well, Webster and he said, look,

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Speaker 25: I'm not going to warn any other NRL coach office.

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Speaker 25: You know, it's it's still an experience that we're glad

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Speaker 25: we had that. Yeah, I think it is private moments.

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Speaker 25: It'd say, you know what, I'd rather prepare for the

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Speaker 25: start of the season back home, you know, our home game,

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Speaker 25: or at the very least a trip across the Tasman.

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Speaker 25: You know, you can't look at it and say, okay,

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Speaker 25: there's Vegas, then this a regular season because it's two

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Speaker 25: points dropped. So yeah, I don't know whether they'll I

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Speaker 25: don't know whether they'll be putting their hand up to

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Speaker 25: go again. Other teams I'm sure will and to give

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Speaker 25: their fans that experience that is a big tick.

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Speaker 3: Where does and Mike?

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Speaker 26: Later this year, the All Blacks will play Ireland in Chicago, right,

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Speaker 26: and that'll probably sell out as it has done in

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Speaker 26: the past because of the expats and the intrigue of

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Speaker 26: the All Blacks. But and they'll make some money good

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Speaker 26: on them. But if they think they're fostering rugby, or

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Speaker 26: they'll be some pr back. Oh my god, time if

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01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 26: they think all of a sudden rugby and.

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Speaker 2: Is going to take after one hundred years at one

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Speaker 2: Never I happened to watch. I didn't realize, but sky

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Speaker 2: are running at the moment. Seemingly they had several channels

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Speaker 2: running the American rugby. Did you see that yesterday?

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Speaker 9: I've seen a little bit of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no one there.

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Speaker 9: No, it's like they're playing in a ye yep.

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Speaker 2: It's like, what why are they showing that? What's the point?

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Speaker 2: Would they have got that for nothing or something?

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Speaker 9: Probably, I'd say, But it was literally like going.

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Speaker 2: Down to the park and you had I was watching

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Speaker 2: was I watching Washington playing I don't know, call it

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Speaker 2: San Diego? And it was literally like being there on

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Speaker 2: a Saturday morning with few appearents.

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Speaker 13: There was thin.

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Speaker 26: I watched one game and there was a man walking

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Speaker 26: past with his dog and thought I would stop and

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Speaker 26: have a look at this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, it's pickleball is popular, but rugby and America

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Speaker 2: unfortunately where where by the way, what what happens with Whiteatta?

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Speaker 2: With Clayton McMillan going, who replaces him? In two. What

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Speaker 2: does Warren Gatland? Does he got a job? Gone?

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Speaker 9: I'll pick up Mike.

1510
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: Just sorry to interrupt, Jason. The old man's muted himself again.

1511
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. He's got the phone in his big fat

1512
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: cheek hits the mute button.

1513
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 9: So I keep forgetting. As they get older, Mike, your

1514
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 9: ears get bigger, right, it's.

1515
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: Just with the sorry, Jason, what were you going to say?

1516
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 25: No, say I have camp bick up. I think that's

1517
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 25: a big loss.

1518
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 9: But I think it's a messive lost for for the

1519
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 9: Chiefs and New Zealand Rugby. Clayton McMillan's an outstanding coach.

1520
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 26: I think they'll I think they'll elevate from within, someone

1521
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 26: like Ross Filippo or or John O Gibbs.

1522
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: Mate Dixon got second, by the way, plow one Dixon

1523
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: got second. So that's not a bad opening. Gatland. Does

1524
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: Gatland get a job? What happens there?

1525
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 16: What do you just?

1526
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't think he what do you

1527
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 9: want to fist again? I don't think he needs one.

1528
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1529
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 9: The slime off retired of Whay.

1530
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: He got a nice place at why he yep? Sit

1531
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: there at the beach. Mind you, when you sit there

1532
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 2: at the beach, you get a bit bored after a while,

1533
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: don't you. I mean, it's all very well going. Oh

1534
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: I can't wait to get to the beach, but once

1535
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: you get to the beach, you get bored. Look at

1536
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 2: what happened to Wayne Smith. He's probably at the same beach,

1537
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 2: remember him. He retired and he went to the beach.

1538
01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 2: As soon as he got the beach, came back.

1539
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep. Hey what about Liol Lawson?

1540
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 26: Do you think he do you think if he didn't

1541
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 26: already realizes you know, this is it. This is the

1542
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,879
Speaker 26: big time. The pressure, pressure, pressure.

1543
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: Tell you what I got out of the testing, and

1544
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: I watched most of it. Red Bull are not what

1545
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 2: they were, and so you've got a twofold problem. One

1546
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 2: they're not dominant. Two they may not even be there

1547
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: or thereabouts. And if they're not, then that's added pressure

1548
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: on top of Lawson who's already got pressure by trying

1549
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: to keep up with the staff, and he'll pack a

1550
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: monumental sadder. He's not winning every week, and so it

1551
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: could be a really tense old time. And what I

1552
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 2: did noticed with interest is all the observers from the

1553
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: outside looking in. In other words, they don't have any

1554
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 2: patriotic interest in Liam. They have big question marks as

1555
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 2: to whether they can make the step. It's a massive

1556
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: expectation on him, and they're not convinced he can necessarily

1557
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: do it, which you know.

1558
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 9: So he'll have to be near him in qualifying and

1559
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 9: malt three three tenths.

1560
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 2: Marco wants him within three tenths each in time.

1561
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 5: Wow.

1562
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a that's a massive, massive call. So

1563
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: you can just imagine. But you know, you only asked

1564
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 2: for the opportunity, Jason, as you well known, he's.

1565
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 26: There exactly, Jason and likewise has been given the opportunity

1566
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 26: to talk to us every Monday morning.

1567
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 2: Exactly.

1568
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 9: The pressure's on him, exactly. I could get with him.

1569
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 25: If I could get with him three tenths of a

1570
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 25: second of you boys, I'll be happy. Lydia Coe absolutely fantastic.

1571
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: Wasn't that fantastic? She keeps on keeping on. I'm so

1572
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: it seems to me that once she did that, that's

1573
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 2: that winning leads to winning thing that once you start winning,

1574
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: you can't stop winning.

1575
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 25: Yeah, anyone, And I mean and she was going to

1576
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 25: retire wasn't she exactly exactly, just carry on.

1577
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: She was going to go to the beach with Wayne

1578
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 2: and you know all the others. It's just it's no point.

1579
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 2: Nice to see you guys, Jason Py and Andrew Seville.

1580
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 2: You can mute yourself now. Sef eight twenty three The.

1581
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 3: Make Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate News Talk.

1582
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: They'd be every corner of the property market. You'll get

1583
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,799
Speaker 2: one name, the best name, time and time again. It's Bailey's.

1584
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 2: Bailey's Real Estate. From humble beginnings to a position as

1585
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: New Zealand's largest locally owned, fully service real estate agency,

1586
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: Baileys have got that expertise across the residential, the commercial,

1587
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: the rural sectors. They produce altogether better results for their clients.

1588
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: Of course, time after time, whether you're on the farm

1589
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: and the warehouse opening the doors to your dream home.

1590
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 2: The team of more than two thousand professionals have got

1591
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: these skills, knowledge and networks to add value to your

1592
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 2: Endeavorsits why Bailey's is the country's most trusted real estate brand,

1593
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: backed by a proven track record of finding the buyers

1594
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 2: others can't and putting people at the heart of everything.

1595
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 10: They do.

1596
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: They've done real estate differently since nineteen seventy three, and

1597
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 2: they'll keep doing things all together better in every sector

1598
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: for every Kiwi for the next fifty years and beyond.

1599
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,600
Speaker 2: Bailey's dot co dot NZ got it. Bailey's dot Co

1600
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,560
Speaker 2: dot Z discover the difference licensed of course under the

1601
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: RAA Act of two thousand. The Native you want the

1602
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: best to go to. Bailey's asking no election called over

1603
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: the weekend, so he's running out of time if its

1604
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 2: April five, April twelve, because you have thirty something days

1605
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: to get it up and running. What he did offer

1606
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 2: Albanezi in Australia is just a straight up and down

1607
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: two hundred million dollar b bond pub for bea basically

1608
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 2: excise tax on bs who. He's going soft on that.

1609
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about this and more. We'll see priced

1610
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 2: across the testament after the news, which is next to

1611
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: news talk, SADB.

1612
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 3: News opinion and everything in between.

1613
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking break best with the range Rover Villa

1614
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,759
Speaker 1: designed to intrigue and use talks.

1615
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: Dead B quick currency matters for you. There's a guy

1616
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 2: called Kendrick. He's the head of digital assets at Standard charted.

1617
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 2: He thinks bitcoin this year is going to go to

1618
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,759
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand before it climbs to five hundred thousand,

1619
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: So take that and do with it what you will.

1620
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 2: More than six hundred tons, which is twenty million ounces

1621
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 2: of gold, has been transported into the balts of New

1622
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: York City since December last year. America is sucking up

1623
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 2: gold like there is no tomorrow threat of tariff's on gold,

1624
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 2: so they want to get in the early and so

1625
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: supply chains have been disrupted because of this huge sucking

1626
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 2: sound which has been the United States important gold ahead

1627
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 2: of the potential tariffs. They moved it to the Commodities

1628
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 2: Exchange Center and other vaults in New York, otherwise usually

1629
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: stored in London. So all the goals leaving London going

1630
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 2: to New York. And if you're not into the gold,

1631
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 2: then you're into the crypto, which is going to five

1632
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,679
Speaker 2: hundred apparently twenty three minutes away from nine.

1633
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 12: International correspondence with endsit Eye Insurance peace of mind for

1634
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 12: New Zealand business.

1635
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 2: See Brighton Willison Australian morning mate good ad. Can we

1636
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 2: assume that given he didn't go to Canberra and the

1637
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: gg's office over the weekend that this April five and

1638
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 2: twelve might not be right or he's still got time

1639
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: to do it.

1640
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 5: I think you'll go Sunday, and I think it'll be

1641
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 5: April twelve. Now I could be horrifically wrong, but everything's

1642
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 5: pointing to that, and we're talking a moment about the

1643
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 5: interview here and his partner Jodi did on sixty minutes

1644
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 5: last night. That would be one indicator for me that

1645
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 5: that's going to happen. There's a whole lot of things

1646
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 5: being lined up, including that mass citizenship ceremonies that went

1647
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 5: nationwide with Tony Burke last week. All of these things

1648
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 5: point to an election in April. There's also going to

1649
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 5: be an economic statement, probably delivered this week, and that

1650
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 5: would mean there's no budget now. A budget, if we

1651
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 5: were to have one, was due to be handed down

1652
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 5: in three weeks time. So I think it'll be in

1653
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,759
Speaker 5: April election this time next week. I could be proven

1654
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 5: to be wrong, but I doubt it.

1655
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So he also announces over the weekend a couple

1656
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 2: of hundred million dollars worth of this excise tax on

1657
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 2: draft beer. Do people not see that they are being played?

1658
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 5: Probably? But if you go to the pub and the

1659
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 5: beer is cheaper then, and it's our bost decision to

1660
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 5: make it that happen. Then, you know, for a lot

1661
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 5: of people, that's reason enough to vote Labor back in.

1662
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you and I analyze politics within

1663
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 5: an inch of his life, but most people don't do that.

1664
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 5: They go, Okay, well, my schooner this weekend is fifty

1665
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 5: cents cheaper than it was last weekend, so good on.

1666
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 5: He's in real trouble in Victoria though. There was a

1667
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 5: red Bridge pole published in the Sunday Papers yesterday showing

1668
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 5: that there's been an eight point four percent party preferred

1669
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 5: swing to the Liberals. That would if it turned out

1670
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 5: that way across Victoria, would mean eight seats alone in

1671
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 5: the state of Victoria would go to Labor. Now, that

1672
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 5: would put Peter Dutton a long way down the road

1673
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 5: to a job in the lodge, because he's only going

1674
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 5: to win between sixteen and eighteen seats and he could

1675
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 5: actually govern in his own right. So if he picks

1676
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 5: up eight and Victoria, that's a huge boost for him.

1677
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 5: It shows also the opposition leader. Dutton's popularity is way

1678
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 5: ahead of Anthony alberanezis so these poles are going to

1679
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 5: come out increasingly over the next few weeks. The only

1680
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 5: polem matters is they all say, is election day. But

1681
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 5: it's pretty positive.

1682
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 2: But the Victoria one does prove that. The by elections

1683
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 2: that we talked on the other day, the argument was

1684
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 2: it local or was it federal? It's federal.

1685
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 5: The labor brand in this state is completely broken, and

1686
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 5: it's broken because the ten years of state labor in particular,

1687
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 5: and people are suffering through things like land taxes that

1688
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,799
Speaker 5: they never had to pay before. Now is that campus

1689
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 5: foot No. But when you go to the polling booth

1690
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 5: and there's a bunch of people standing out the front

1691
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 5: trying to hand your labor out of vote cards, you think, well,

1692
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 5: you're the same mob that made my life in Victoria. Hell,

1693
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 5: I'm not voting for you. It doesn't necessarily mean those

1694
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 5: votes go to the Liberals. They could go to any

1695
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 5: number of independents. And I think there's going to be

1696
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 5: a huge surge in support for non aligned independent candidates

1697
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 5: right across all of Australia.

1698
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 2: I did know that, you said. I don't know you

1699
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 2: can say that with a straight face either, he said

1700
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: on sixty Minutes last night, it's going to be a

1701
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: positive campaign, is it really? Is anyone?

1702
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 5: No, it's already negative. That dird File was out talking

1703
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 5: about Dutton's realistided empire last week. I mean they never

1704
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 5: learned these people. I mean he's gone on there with

1705
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 5: his partner Joe and he's been interviewed by Carl Stefanovic,

1706
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 5: which prompted me this morning, knowing you're speaking to you

1707
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 5: to remember before the last election, Scott Morrison, the n

1708
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 5: Eden Prime minister, when on sixty Minutes was interviewed by

1709
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 5: Carl Stefanovic and sang April's son in Cuba playing a ukulelean.

1710
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 5: I mean he was then out of the job about

1711
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 5: a week later. So why would you just say, Carl,

1712
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 5: stay away. I'm not going to do anything with you

1713
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 5: at all. So what's Elbow's April son in Cuba moment

1714
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 5: last night? Well, he talks about you know, he's going

1715
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 5: to get married this year and Albow's got a dog

1716
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 5: called Toto. Toto is going to be the ring bearer

1717
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 5: at the wedding ceremony. That's what added to the Albanisy,

1718
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 5: Prime Minister of the Great Nation of Australia, told everyone

1719
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 5: on television last night.

1720
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: Is she a credit to us?

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Speaker 5: The dog or the girl from.

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Speaker 2: His betrothed?

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Speaker 9: She is?

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Speaker 2: She is she nicer? You come? Does she come across?

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Speaker 5: Well, comes to the Central Coast and yourself, Well, I

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01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 5: was not about fell in love with Anthony Albanize. It's

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Speaker 5: some political rally, which is a bit of a worry.

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Speaker 5: But she was also she sang out go the Rabbitos,

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01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 5: who are a broken league team in Sydney.

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Speaker 2: The whole Trump thing did Were you worried when Trump?

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01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: When the British reporter at the White House last week

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01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: said are you going to talk about August? And Trump said,

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Speaker 2: what's that? Well, are you slightly worried that Marles gave

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01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 2: him eight hundred million dollars the other day?

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Speaker 5: More than slightly worried? It's quite remarkable. Well, after he

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01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 5: said what the hell is Aucus, he also turned to

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01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 5: Kis Dharma and said, well, you know, we get on

1738
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 5: really well. We've got a great relationship with Australia. You

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01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 5: seem to have a great relationship with Australia as well.

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01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 5: Does anyone think Donald Trump actually knows that the British

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01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 5: colonized Australia back in the seventeen so I mean I

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01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 5: doubt that he would know that when he did.

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Speaker 2: Exactly where are wet by the way, the whole defense

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01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: Chinese ships, all that sort of stuff, and you know,

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01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,759
Speaker 2: increase in defense spending and their desire at Dunton's desire

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01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: to spend billions on fighters. Do you need fighters or

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01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,560
Speaker 2: is this just part of this new first song we

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01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 2: have going on with defense.

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Speaker 5: Well, these things were originally ordered and then cancer by

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01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 5: the Ovenue of Government. I'm talking about twenty eight thirty

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01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 5: five like construct fighters, their best fighter aircraft in the world.

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01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 5: If dunton Win's is going to spend three billion on

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01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 5: rounding out that order and if he can and get

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01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 5: back into the production line and get hold of them,

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01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 5: they are a good weapon for Australia to have. Then

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01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 5: he comes at a time when that's flotilla. It's now

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01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 5: off Perth. So these three ships have circumnavigated Australia. I mean,

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01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 5: if you can't see that that's a provocative act by

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01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 5: the Chinese, then you're blind. Then the Prime Minister has

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01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 5: been weak on this all week. He's tried to say

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01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 5: nothing to see here, they're in international waters, don't worry

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Speaker 5: about it. But it's actually the Chinese making very clear

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01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 5: that they can come and do whatever they want whenever

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Speaker 5: they want.

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Speaker 2: Exactly the Alfred coming into Brisbane?

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01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 16: Is it just me?

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01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: Or that seems to have been sitting off the coast

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01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 2: for days on end and we're waiting for it to

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Speaker 2: finally arrive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, it's a very long time since a

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01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 5: cyclone activity has been that far south. They're talking about

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01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 5: it making land between Byron Bay and Brisbane. Now, as

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01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 5: you would well know, the population in that corridor between

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01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 5: Brisbane down to the Gold Coast, down to cool and

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01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 5: Gatter and then further on down to the Lord of

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01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 5: New South, well, it's huge numbers of people. Millions of

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01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 5: people live in that region. So it would be catastrophic

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01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 5: if it did what they say it was going to do.

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01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 5: But look, it's already been downgraded from A four to

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01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 5: three and some suggestion that it'll cross land Tuesday and

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01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 5: it might be down to all one. I just get Look,

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01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 5: let's hope if we're right and that there's things not

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01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 5: as strong as it seems. But are you not of

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01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,799
Speaker 5: my similar view that the media around the world.

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01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 2: Love they go exactly the moment they put out a

1786
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 2: press release six weeks in advance of something that may happen.

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01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: They just go insane and it never.

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01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 5: Knew a night click on it.

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01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right, we'll see what happens Wednesday. We'll

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01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: talk then appreciate them as a seat price out of Australia.

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Speaker 2: Just by the way, Jerry Harvey Harvey Norman says the

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01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 2: minority government after the election under myne, Australia's economy put

1793
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 2: businesses tackling higher energy costs than labor shortages under more pressure.

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01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 2: It would be quote terrible. We'll have a political system

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01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 2: that's destined for having fight after fight alfter fight and

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01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 2: slowing down the economy at a rate of knots. I

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01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 2: think he'd speak for many Australians. Eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At b mcgrind's back on the program tomorrow tomorrow morning.

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01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 2: He's military strategist. Guy would get on periodically. Peter Hartcher

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01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 2: wrote last week, and I thought it's a very This

1803
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: is the whole Chinese vessels thing and the general upsurge

1804
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 2: and behavior run defense around the world. Australia's approaching the

1805
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 2: culminating point of its complacency. China's navy is illustrating Australia's

1806
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 2: vulnerability at the exact moment that the US is demonstrating

1807
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 2: American unreliability. For a couple of decades, Australia's talked about

1808
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 2: balancing its biggest trading relationship against its main security relationship,

1809
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 2: implication that we can have both China and the US

1810
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 2: just as we want them. Today you can see that

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01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 2: we can be confident of neither. And although he wrote

1812
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 2: that about Australia, of course that's just as applicable as

1813
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 2: it is to New Zealand. So mcrian back on the

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Speaker 2: program tomorrow. Thorium, which I didn't know a lot about

1815
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: until I started looking it up. Now that I've discovered

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01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: China's got some thorium's worth knowing about, because they have

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01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 2: discovered in Mongolia enough thorium, and as it turns out,

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01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 2: you don't need much of it to basically power the

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01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: world forever. So the whole idea that we're going to

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01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 2: need oil and gas and coal and it's simply not

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01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 2: true if thorium turns out to be what they think

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01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 13: The stuff that the hammer is made out of is it?

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01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 13: I don't know, Well a short why asked? What they

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01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 13: call it thorium?

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Speaker 2: It's sort of radioactive, kind of radioactive, but not in

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01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 2: a freak out kind of radioactive way. It's a declassified

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01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 2: report that came out over the weekend from China. They've

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01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 2: got these reserves, exceeding previous estimates by many by orders

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01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 2: of magnitude, like as they've got miles more than they

1831
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: thought that at just five years of mining waste from

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01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 2: a single iron ore sight in Inner Mongolia contains enough

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01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 2: thorium to meet US household energy demands for more than

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01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: a thousand years. This is the Chinese Journal of Geological Review,

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01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 2: fully exploited. There's a place called the banyin Obo mining complex.

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Speaker 2: It could yield a million tons of thorium. How much

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01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 2: would a million tons of thorium do for your power wise? Well,

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01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: it's enough to fuel China for sixty thousand years, so

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01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 2: it may have been in front of us all along.

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01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 13: And how many hammers can you make out of it?

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01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 2: M seven, so you can hammer in the morning, hammer

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01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: in the evening, hammer all day long. Nine away from nine.

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Speaker 1: From the mic asking breakfast with al Vida retirement Communities News,

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Speaker 1: tomstad b.

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Speaker 2: Mike, did you not get the marble reference thrown at you?

1846
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 2: There re the Hammers.

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Speaker 13: Come on, guys, he knows exactly who Moliere is, don't you?

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Speaker 2: Precisely? By the way, Ineos I forgot to ask Andrew

1849
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 2: is going to ask Andrew but at a time in

1850
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: the sport where this whole legal thing is And do

1851
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 2: they have a replacement sponsorship deal at the Rugby Union

1852
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 2: now that Ineos has cut tires. It's even worse at

1853
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: Manchester United clubwide meeting last week, acting a further one

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01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 2: fifty to two hundred jobs. That's on top of the

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01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty they've already asked. More importantly than that,

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01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: hot lunches are off at the club's Carrington training base

1857
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 2: for everyone but the players, and a need to free

1858
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: lunches for staff at Old Trafford with a view to

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01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: saving more than a million pounds. So when you're taking

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01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 2: the hot lunches off, you know that things are tight.

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01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: And if you were a player and you knew as

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01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 2: you walked past the buffet that no one else could

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01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 2: have that lunch anymore, But only you, says just you

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01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 2: plus the reserves, would you feel stink en up not

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01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: to have the lunch. I think it would again, don't

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01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 2: worry about it. I'm with those guys over there. We'll

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01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 2: bunk up for sam which five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 3: Trending now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy.

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Speaker 2: All year and you know when they're cut in the

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01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 2: buffet that things aren't good. Mondo, do plant good plantis?

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01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: Or do plante do plonty Mondo. So he's a pole

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01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 2: vaulter and he's a Swede, and he broke his own

1873
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 2: world record over the weekend for the eleventh time. So

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01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 2: six people including him cleared the bar at five nine

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01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 2: to one. I mean most of us can do that.

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01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 2: So then after five nine to one, he goes to

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01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: six oh seven and he wins the meat with six

1878
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: oh seven. Straight after he knew he'd won, he popped

1879
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 2: the bar up twenty and that's just starting to show off.

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01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 2: At that point six two seven he's at now breaks

1881
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 2: his record on the first attempt, not even hard. He

1882
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 2: could jump high. But every time he breaks the record.

1883
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 2: At the moment, he's getting one hundred thousand dollars prize money.

1884
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: So he goes up in a centimeter at a time,

1885
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 2: I'd go at half cent of the water himself. I'd

1886
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: go take it up zero point five, and they come on,

1887
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 2: might play the game and you already said you weren't

1888
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 2: getting the free lunches, stopped trying to gouge the prize

1889
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 2: money competition anyway. Not only that, but what are you

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01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 2: listening to here? This is him singing Mondo du He's

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01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 2: a singer. He just goes by the name of Mondo

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01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 2: who doesn't do the du because sometimes people call them

1893
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 2: duplantas and he doesn't mean he hates that. Anyway, It's

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01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: gone to number thirty six. It's not really a thing,

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01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 2: is it? On Apple Music in Sweden? So it's Apple

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01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 2: Music in Sweden. He's gone to thirty six. I didn't know.

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01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 2: If I had said to you, do Apple Music go

1898
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 2: past twenty and Sweden, you would have gone Nana. But anyway,

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01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 2: they clearly go to thirty six because that's where he is.

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Speaker 2: He's number eight on iTunes.

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Speaker 13: I don't know what this is Sweden, he's big and

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01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 13: Sweden anywhere else.

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01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 23: When when he won in the Olympics, it was one

1904
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,879
Speaker 23: of it was probably my favorite second favorite moment after Hamish.

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01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: Did you swing your thor Hammer with excitement. I did

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01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: back tomorrow morning, as always Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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