1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:19,733 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:19,973 --> 00:00:22,173 Speaker 2: Take it on the pad, now we'll get in. It's 4 00:00:22,173 --> 00:00:27,573 Speaker 2: a trick, it is out, The test is over. The 5 00:00:27,613 --> 00:00:31,573 Speaker 2: smoke fous a beauty, It is out and here he goes. 6 00:00:31,653 --> 00:00:33,653 Speaker 2: This delivery has in the music. 7 00:00:33,493 --> 00:00:34,333 Speaker 3: The Gold. 8 00:00:36,333 --> 00:00:39,733 Speaker 1: On the Front Foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Coney 9 00:00:40,053 --> 00:00:43,933 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks hed B at iHeartRadio. 10 00:00:46,973 --> 00:00:50,093 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to On the Front Foots for the New 11 00:00:50,213 --> 00:00:53,293 Speaker 2: Year's twenty twenty five and what have we had sofa 12 00:00:53,773 --> 00:00:57,693 Speaker 2: well as Rolanthum series won both Tea Bunny and ODI 13 00:00:58,093 --> 00:01:01,293 Speaker 2: will I disappointing furnish to the ODI series are founding 14 00:01:01,533 --> 00:01:05,333 Speaker 2: at Eden Park a champions trophy team chosen. Is it 15 00:01:05,373 --> 00:01:09,093 Speaker 2: a look for future or a team for subcontinent conditions? 16 00:01:09,813 --> 00:01:14,653 Speaker 2: Is Test Cricket looking at another rearrangement and Guffy calls 17 00:01:14,773 --> 00:01:18,093 Speaker 2: time on his international career. Nice to be back in 18 00:01:18,133 --> 00:01:21,173 Speaker 2: the new year's season. Spreadings to everybody all out A 19 00:01:21,173 --> 00:01:25,413 Speaker 2: little bit late. We're midway through January. Respective voices of 20 00:01:25,533 --> 00:01:29,613 Speaker 2: cricket joining us as ever Jeremy Coney, who has had 21 00:01:29,773 --> 00:01:32,933 Speaker 2: time off after chasing that white ball up and down 22 00:01:33,013 --> 00:01:35,573 Speaker 2: the country. Jerry, you've had a little break have on. 23 00:01:35,933 --> 00:01:39,213 Speaker 3: It's been an unhappy festive times to you both. Yeah, 24 00:01:39,333 --> 00:01:41,293 Speaker 3: look it has been. I'm over at YHICKI at the 25 00:01:41,293 --> 00:01:45,133 Speaker 3: moment with my son and his family, going heading back 26 00:01:45,173 --> 00:01:48,773 Speaker 3: to Auckland later today. It's a beautiful day here today, 27 00:01:48,613 --> 00:01:52,053 Speaker 3: the calm water and I'm in the bedroom talking to 28 00:01:52,133 --> 00:01:53,773 Speaker 3: YouTube bloats. Never mind. 29 00:01:53,853 --> 00:01:56,453 Speaker 2: Oh and Garth won't be enjoying it because he's just 30 00:01:56,453 --> 00:01:59,893 Speaker 2: been complaining to me about the weather he's had. And 31 00:01:59,973 --> 00:02:04,013 Speaker 2: also he had the wonderful time of four days in 32 00:02:04,053 --> 00:02:08,253 Speaker 2: Sydney watching two T twenty games between India and Australia. 33 00:02:08,373 --> 00:02:10,653 Speaker 4: I only want the second day, but it was like 34 00:02:10,733 --> 00:02:15,253 Speaker 4: a teacher with the only sunshine we've seen in three weeks. 35 00:02:15,453 --> 00:02:18,853 Speaker 4: Was down to Warrington for Christmas, then to christ Church, 36 00:02:18,973 --> 00:02:21,213 Speaker 4: over the Sydney back to christ Church, indned and I 37 00:02:21,213 --> 00:02:23,813 Speaker 4: suppose if you look at the venues, I chose I have, 38 00:02:24,693 --> 00:02:26,573 Speaker 4: you know, no one to blame but myself, but the 39 00:02:26,573 --> 00:02:29,413 Speaker 4: East coast of New Zealand eighteen degrees has been a 40 00:02:29,453 --> 00:02:30,093 Speaker 4: warm day. 41 00:02:30,653 --> 00:02:33,053 Speaker 3: I've had my grandson dal in christ Church. They've been 42 00:02:33,133 --> 00:02:37,013 Speaker 3: playing the under nineteen tournament down there, Gas and Auckland 43 00:02:37,093 --> 00:02:40,373 Speaker 3: carried it away. So bad luck Canterbury. 44 00:02:40,773 --> 00:02:43,213 Speaker 4: Everyone always likes talking running in the South Island. 45 00:02:43,253 --> 00:02:45,333 Speaker 3: That's great, exactly. 46 00:02:45,853 --> 00:02:48,253 Speaker 2: Well the boy had a good tournament too, Jerry. 47 00:02:48,173 --> 00:02:50,733 Speaker 3: He did, he did, he's he had a good time. Yeah. 48 00:02:51,293 --> 00:02:54,733 Speaker 3: But there's no Under nineteen World Cup until next year, 49 00:02:54,773 --> 00:02:55,173 Speaker 3: isn't it. 50 00:02:55,293 --> 00:02:57,973 Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, But at least it's looking after the 51 00:02:58,453 --> 00:03:02,293 Speaker 2: developmental phase of our game, and that's important. The other 52 00:03:02,333 --> 00:03:06,373 Speaker 2: part of our game is the ICC Champions Trophy. I 53 00:03:06,453 --> 00:03:08,293 Speaker 2: look at that side and I think, you know, it's 54 00:03:08,493 --> 00:03:12,813 Speaker 2: it's a bold side. It's a positive move by the selectors. 55 00:03:13,213 --> 00:03:18,093 Speaker 2: I have one, well perhaps two points that I think 56 00:03:18,693 --> 00:03:22,453 Speaker 2: are worth discussing. Lackie Ferguson. Yeah, he got some pace 57 00:03:22,533 --> 00:03:25,173 Speaker 2: ahead of Jacob Duffy after what Duffy did in the 58 00:03:25,333 --> 00:03:28,853 Speaker 2: series against Sri Lanka. Experience perhaps. And the other one 59 00:03:29,053 --> 00:03:33,253 Speaker 2: is wicket keeper. I'm still in favor of having full 60 00:03:33,333 --> 00:03:37,173 Speaker 2: time wicket keepers rather than part timers who bats a 61 00:03:37,213 --> 00:03:40,053 Speaker 2: little bit And is Tom Lathan batting well enough to 62 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:42,653 Speaker 2: play in ODI eyes? What do you reckon, Garb? 63 00:03:43,733 --> 00:03:45,733 Speaker 4: I think that there's a lot of pressure on Lathan. 64 00:03:45,853 --> 00:03:47,773 Speaker 4: I think it's a good question you raise it. I 65 00:03:47,773 --> 00:03:51,213 Speaker 4: mean again, I'm not particularly enamored with the idea of 66 00:03:51,293 --> 00:03:55,853 Speaker 4: Devon Conway keeping either, Brian, because you know, he's broken 67 00:03:55,893 --> 00:03:59,133 Speaker 4: as thumb doing that previously for New Zealand and he 68 00:03:59,253 --> 00:04:01,893 Speaker 4: was out for a fair amount of time, and I 69 00:04:01,893 --> 00:04:04,773 Speaker 4: think it just demonstrates the peril that these players get 70 00:04:04,813 --> 00:04:09,693 Speaker 4: themselves into, you know, in a way I'd love to 71 00:04:09,733 --> 00:04:12,573 Speaker 4: see something being a bit more bold and seeing someone 72 00:04:12,693 --> 00:04:15,253 Speaker 4: like Mitch Hay being in the mix a little bit more. 73 00:04:15,253 --> 00:04:18,333 Speaker 4: I think it's good that he's been blooded against Sri Lanka. 74 00:04:18,453 --> 00:04:20,853 Speaker 4: Jerry will obviously have a view having seen him play, 75 00:04:21,413 --> 00:04:24,573 Speaker 4: but he's clearly he's clearly the next cab off the 76 00:04:24,653 --> 00:04:28,573 Speaker 4: rank in terms of white ball cricket. So I like 77 00:04:28,653 --> 00:04:35,053 Speaker 4: a pure keeper as well who can bat. That's my preference. Ferguson. Yeah, 78 00:04:35,253 --> 00:04:38,173 Speaker 4: I mean I don't mind that so much. I suppose 79 00:04:38,373 --> 00:04:41,813 Speaker 4: I feel sorry for Duffy. He's a bit like I 80 00:04:41,813 --> 00:04:44,693 Speaker 4: suppose you compare him a bit to Will Young or 81 00:04:44,733 --> 00:04:49,333 Speaker 4: to Matt Henry in recent years, just waiting for their time. 82 00:04:49,413 --> 00:04:53,333 Speaker 4: But for Duffy he's not as young. You know, he's 83 00:04:53,373 --> 00:04:56,853 Speaker 4: thirty three years old. I think I'm right in saying that, 84 00:04:57,293 --> 00:04:59,493 Speaker 4: and I think he's been so impressive in this Sri 85 00:04:59,573 --> 00:05:03,573 Speaker 4: Lankan series so New Zealand the introductor, don't forget. Also 86 00:05:03,613 --> 00:05:07,973 Speaker 4: they've picked Sears as well, who's been suffering from injuries, 87 00:05:08,333 --> 00:05:12,933 Speaker 4: relatively short of cricket. So they are, you know, they're 88 00:05:12,933 --> 00:05:18,013 Speaker 4: staking their case on pace and a little bit of spin. 89 00:05:18,573 --> 00:05:22,093 Speaker 4: It's interesting. I think Duffy would have been a good option. 90 00:05:22,173 --> 00:05:26,333 Speaker 4: It's more conservative, but over there I like the thought 91 00:05:26,333 --> 00:05:27,253 Speaker 4: of him being included. 92 00:05:27,893 --> 00:05:30,453 Speaker 3: Ferguson for me, obviously they've gone for pace. As you 93 00:05:30,613 --> 00:05:34,093 Speaker 3: mentioned Garth, he's not so much movement in the air, 94 00:05:34,213 --> 00:05:36,413 Speaker 3: is he certainly not as much as Duffy. And I 95 00:05:36,453 --> 00:05:39,533 Speaker 3: suppose if anyone is missing, he would be the obvious name. 96 00:05:39,573 --> 00:05:43,173 Speaker 3: He's displayed pretty good form and he couldn't really have 97 00:05:43,173 --> 00:05:45,173 Speaker 3: done a lot better than he's given for the side 98 00:05:45,253 --> 00:05:49,213 Speaker 3: so far. The only ode I he didn't play in 99 00:05:49,253 --> 00:05:52,613 Speaker 3: New Zealand with Creamed, weren't they, So that's not his fault. 100 00:05:53,853 --> 00:05:57,573 Speaker 3: So Ferguson, will he last for three games close together? 101 00:05:58,133 --> 00:06:02,293 Speaker 3: I don't know. There's a little question about that. Henry 102 00:06:02,333 --> 00:06:07,693 Speaker 3: obviously seam bowler, mister consistent O'Rourke quick with some bounce 103 00:06:08,453 --> 00:06:11,613 Speaker 3: two games of none for fifty, so they'll be there'll 104 00:06:11,653 --> 00:06:13,973 Speaker 3: be a little bit of a question mark maybe, but 105 00:06:14,213 --> 00:06:18,133 Speaker 3: canny bowl and good bounce against and disturb perhaps Pakistan 106 00:06:18,213 --> 00:06:22,573 Speaker 3: and the Bangaldesh sides see is he returning to early? 107 00:06:23,093 --> 00:06:26,773 Speaker 3: Well we don't know, do we, And they've gone for 108 00:06:26,813 --> 00:06:32,653 Speaker 3: that pace Latham. You mentioned wdds over Hay. They've obviously 109 00:06:32,733 --> 00:06:37,453 Speaker 3: liked Latham's experience, don't they, and that's why they perhaps 110 00:06:37,773 --> 00:06:41,253 Speaker 3: selected him. I've got lots of questions about the batting though, 111 00:06:41,293 --> 00:06:46,973 Speaker 3: really after that last, yes, last Matt, where does Chapman go? Guys, 112 00:06:47,693 --> 00:06:50,333 Speaker 3: Chapman is a guy who's come up from what middle 113 00:06:50,453 --> 00:06:54,173 Speaker 3: order in the twenty twenty format and then he's been 114 00:06:54,173 --> 00:06:57,613 Speaker 3: put at three. He's not going to take Williamson's place? 115 00:06:57,733 --> 00:07:02,013 Speaker 3: Is he? Where does he go? Does he open? What happens? 116 00:07:02,053 --> 00:07:05,373 Speaker 3: If Conway doesn't score any in the SA twenty? What 117 00:07:05,493 --> 00:07:12,093 Speaker 3: happens then? Who will open the batting? I also I'm 118 00:07:12,133 --> 00:07:15,293 Speaker 3: not sure about Revendra as an opener if the ball 119 00:07:15,413 --> 00:07:18,733 Speaker 3: is moving. We saw him bold in the last ODI. 120 00:07:19,173 --> 00:07:23,093 Speaker 3: We saw him beaten outside the off stunt consistently by 121 00:07:24,093 --> 00:07:27,613 Speaker 3: Fernando the tall left armor in the twenty twenties and 122 00:07:27,653 --> 00:07:31,573 Speaker 3: then they then nicked him off. And I just feel 123 00:07:31,573 --> 00:07:34,653 Speaker 3: with the movement at the moment, I would like to 124 00:07:34,653 --> 00:07:37,133 Speaker 3: see Revendra down in the middle order. He scores off 125 00:07:37,173 --> 00:07:40,853 Speaker 3: most deliveries and I think with a less bounce in 126 00:07:41,213 --> 00:07:45,373 Speaker 3: in Asia he will enjoy that. But if there is swing, 127 00:07:46,173 --> 00:07:50,213 Speaker 3: watch out, watch out. So I would personally like him 128 00:07:50,253 --> 00:07:54,893 Speaker 3: down a bit lower. Conway. Yeah, I don't footwork. Footwork, footwork, 129 00:07:54,933 --> 00:07:57,493 Speaker 3: you know, Mitchell, someone I think needs to sit down 130 00:07:58,093 --> 00:08:02,133 Speaker 3: and say, look, you're batting in a prime position. You're 131 00:08:02,173 --> 00:08:04,733 Speaker 3: taking the place where Crow used to play and where 132 00:08:04,773 --> 00:08:07,613 Speaker 3: Taylor used to play. You have got the prop, You've 133 00:08:07,613 --> 00:08:10,613 Speaker 3: got to accept the responsibility. You can't be flailing outside 134 00:08:10,653 --> 00:08:14,613 Speaker 3: of stump. So there's a few things I think about 135 00:08:14,653 --> 00:08:17,053 Speaker 3: the batting we need to work with. Is there room 136 00:08:17,093 --> 00:08:22,173 Speaker 3: for Phillips and Bracewall Not sure about that either. So 137 00:08:22,773 --> 00:08:25,453 Speaker 3: there I still have a few questions about the final 138 00:08:25,573 --> 00:08:27,373 Speaker 3: makeup of the side. 139 00:08:28,213 --> 00:08:31,453 Speaker 2: Chapman is doing the Phillips job, isn't he? And to 140 00:08:31,533 --> 00:08:35,533 Speaker 2: me he is more a middle order finisher, somebody who 141 00:08:35,573 --> 00:08:39,773 Speaker 2: can be explosive and do what has been done by 142 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:43,333 Speaker 2: Phillips and the other points I think you know you 143 00:08:43,413 --> 00:08:46,013 Speaker 2: make quite fairly. Whereas Latham going about, is he going 144 00:08:46,053 --> 00:08:48,173 Speaker 2: to open if that's the case, because he's not a 145 00:08:48,213 --> 00:08:51,413 Speaker 2: middle order player. To me, hey is also another finisher, 146 00:08:51,613 --> 00:08:54,293 Speaker 2: somebody down the order who can score it better than 147 00:08:54,333 --> 00:08:57,733 Speaker 2: run a ball if required. They are interesting ones. The 148 00:08:57,773 --> 00:09:00,933 Speaker 2: point about Duffy, I mean he was named as the 149 00:09:00,973 --> 00:09:06,213 Speaker 2: squad's standby player to be included should Lockie Ferguson become 150 00:09:06,333 --> 00:09:10,813 Speaker 2: unavailable because of I O T twenty playoff commitments. Doesn't 151 00:09:10,813 --> 00:09:14,573 Speaker 2: say anything about injury as such, but also standby player 152 00:09:14,573 --> 00:09:17,133 Speaker 2: does it when he goes or does he stay at 153 00:09:17,173 --> 00:09:19,693 Speaker 2: home and wait for the call? I mean, why not 154 00:09:19,773 --> 00:09:22,573 Speaker 2: just take him in the first place? And Lucky Ferguson, 155 00:09:22,613 --> 00:09:26,253 Speaker 2: to my mind, is on the way And I think, well, 156 00:09:26,373 --> 00:09:31,333 Speaker 2: you know, you talk about Duffy being thirty odd, you'd 157 00:09:31,373 --> 00:09:36,173 Speaker 2: know that better than I would. You probably frigid against 158 00:09:36,213 --> 00:09:37,893 Speaker 2: him and the need and at some stage did. 159 00:09:37,733 --> 00:09:43,813 Speaker 4: You not quite? But that would have been nice, wouldn't it. Look. 160 00:09:43,853 --> 00:09:45,333 Speaker 4: I think the other thing that came out of the 161 00:09:45,373 --> 00:09:47,653 Speaker 4: series for me watching some of the white Ball stuff 162 00:09:47,653 --> 00:09:50,013 Speaker 4: but not an awful lot of it, was was Nathan Smith, 163 00:09:50,213 --> 00:09:53,093 Speaker 4: and you know I was interested Jerry and your thoughts 164 00:09:53,133 --> 00:09:55,893 Speaker 4: on that. I felt his with his bowling, he looked 165 00:09:55,893 --> 00:09:58,733 Speaker 4: a bit vulnerable actually in really good conditions and I 166 00:09:58,773 --> 00:10:02,253 Speaker 4: didn't see the sort of variations that I would expect 167 00:10:02,293 --> 00:10:06,773 Speaker 4: to see from a top class steam bowler or all 168 00:10:06,893 --> 00:10:11,573 Speaker 4: round it. So you're curious and coming back to the 169 00:10:11,613 --> 00:10:15,093 Speaker 4: top order as well. I think New Zealand are vulnerable there. 170 00:10:15,853 --> 00:10:17,653 Speaker 4: You know it's a side that could be too down 171 00:10:17,693 --> 00:10:21,173 Speaker 4: for not many and the biggest you know that they're 172 00:10:21,213 --> 00:10:23,493 Speaker 4: staking an awful lot in Devin Conway. 173 00:10:24,133 --> 00:10:28,893 Speaker 3: Yep. Well, I mean I personally feel Smith you mentioned him. 174 00:10:29,013 --> 00:10:32,933 Speaker 3: I think he's just learning an international lengths and he's 175 00:10:33,053 --> 00:10:36,453 Speaker 3: a little bit full at times and hasn't quite got 176 00:10:36,533 --> 00:10:39,893 Speaker 3: the angles yet worked out. I don't think at an 177 00:10:39,893 --> 00:10:43,293 Speaker 3: international level they are going to target him and attack him. 178 00:10:43,333 --> 00:10:46,093 Speaker 3: I think so he needs to have a variety of 179 00:10:46,173 --> 00:10:49,933 Speaker 3: slow balls that he can offer as well, particularly in 180 00:10:50,013 --> 00:10:53,813 Speaker 3: place like Asia. It's not going to be an easy tournament, 181 00:10:54,093 --> 00:10:56,613 Speaker 3: I don't think. I mean, at the moment New Zealander 182 00:10:56,693 --> 00:11:00,933 Speaker 3: rated fifths, they're playing Pakistan, they are fought third at 183 00:11:00,933 --> 00:11:04,813 Speaker 3: the moment and they've just beaten South Africa away three 184 00:11:04,933 --> 00:11:09,373 Speaker 3: nil in South Africa and they playing well. They've got 185 00:11:09,373 --> 00:11:12,373 Speaker 3: a good side. That guy Salmon ayub the left hand 186 00:11:12,453 --> 00:11:16,373 Speaker 3: or he's a dasher at the top Shaffiq. You've obviously 187 00:11:16,373 --> 00:11:19,733 Speaker 3: got Baba Rizwan Gulam. Then you've got Salmon Aga who's 188 00:11:19,773 --> 00:11:22,573 Speaker 3: the leg spinner and also a hitter. Then you've got 189 00:11:22,573 --> 00:11:26,413 Speaker 3: the bowlers Fredi, Nassim Shah will be there, I guess, 190 00:11:26,693 --> 00:11:30,133 Speaker 3: Harris Ralph and then the leg spinner Abra Ahmad. So 191 00:11:30,293 --> 00:11:32,773 Speaker 3: look they're not the worst. They're not the worst lot 192 00:11:32,853 --> 00:11:35,653 Speaker 3: those guys. And then of course we'll have India for 193 00:11:35,693 --> 00:11:39,773 Speaker 3: the last match, our third match at Dubai, and they 194 00:11:39,813 --> 00:11:44,173 Speaker 3: will have already played two previous matches there on that ground. 195 00:11:44,533 --> 00:11:47,053 Speaker 3: They'll know the ground, they'll know the angles, they'll know 196 00:11:47,133 --> 00:11:50,293 Speaker 3: the pitch, they'll know kind of whether there's dwe at night, 197 00:11:50,373 --> 00:11:53,253 Speaker 3: they'll know the totals and how to get there. They'll 198 00:11:53,293 --> 00:11:56,693 Speaker 3: know which bowlers are effective, so they will have quite 199 00:11:56,733 --> 00:11:59,933 Speaker 3: a lot of knowledge already built up by the time 200 00:11:59,973 --> 00:12:02,133 Speaker 3: they get to that third match when we play them. 201 00:12:02,293 --> 00:12:05,093 Speaker 3: It's not going to be an easy tournament for New Zealand. 202 00:12:05,253 --> 00:12:08,133 Speaker 2: No, but New Zealand of course have been to Pakistan 203 00:12:08,173 --> 00:12:10,693 Speaker 2: rie and played short ye cricket, haven't they have performed 204 00:12:10,693 --> 00:12:12,853 Speaker 2: reasonably well? I think it was under the captaincy of 205 00:12:12,853 --> 00:12:15,693 Speaker 2: Michael Bracewell, wasn't it that they went over there and 206 00:12:15,773 --> 00:12:18,053 Speaker 2: did pretty well. Well. They've got a month to sort 207 00:12:18,093 --> 00:12:21,973 Speaker 2: things out. They've got competition matches being played here in 208 00:12:22,013 --> 00:12:26,533 Speaker 2: New Zealand in another short form the Dream eleven Super Smash. 209 00:12:26,773 --> 00:12:29,093 Speaker 2: But they've got preparation time because they've got warm up 210 00:12:29,133 --> 00:12:34,773 Speaker 2: games in Pakistan before the champions Trophy begins. I think 211 00:12:34,853 --> 00:12:38,813 Speaker 2: the nineteenth of February is about the first date, so 212 00:12:38,973 --> 00:12:43,133 Speaker 2: it's a month away for the New Zealander's interesting side. 213 00:12:43,213 --> 00:12:47,493 Speaker 2: But you know, I think as we probably agree that 214 00:12:47,573 --> 00:12:49,533 Speaker 2: Duffy is probably the only one that you could look 215 00:12:49,573 --> 00:12:53,013 Speaker 2: at and say he's unlucky not to be there. I 216 00:12:53,053 --> 00:12:55,253 Speaker 2: don't think there's any other player that can be left out, 217 00:12:55,253 --> 00:12:57,773 Speaker 2: so it's probably the best we've got, bearing in mind 218 00:12:58,013 --> 00:13:01,973 Speaker 2: the selection that are available for the New Zealand selectors. Now, 219 00:13:02,053 --> 00:13:02,493 Speaker 2: is that fair? 220 00:13:03,653 --> 00:13:07,893 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that's fair. Was some people would perhaps 221 00:13:07,893 --> 00:13:10,173 Speaker 3: so because where they're playing they might go for Stody. 222 00:13:10,853 --> 00:13:13,293 Speaker 3: I think it's time to leave is Ish just at 223 00:13:13,293 --> 00:13:16,813 Speaker 3: the moment, and I think the spinners that they've selected, 224 00:13:18,093 --> 00:13:21,653 Speaker 3: whether as I say, Phillips will play. I mean, lots 225 00:13:21,653 --> 00:13:25,493 Speaker 3: of people love his running, you know, in the field 226 00:13:25,533 --> 00:13:28,173 Speaker 3: and so on, but he's got to watch his you know, 227 00:13:28,253 --> 00:13:30,693 Speaker 3: the length to spin. You can't play one hundred percent 228 00:13:30,693 --> 00:13:33,013 Speaker 3: from the back foot all the time, especially not when 229 00:13:33,013 --> 00:13:36,573 Speaker 3: it's turning. You get bold in LBW so that and 230 00:13:36,613 --> 00:13:39,733 Speaker 3: it's running between the wickets. It's very clear. In the 231 00:13:39,733 --> 00:13:44,293 Speaker 3: twenty twenties he was getting very frustrated batting with Mitchell, 232 00:13:45,413 --> 00:13:49,093 Speaker 3: who wasn't taking the runs that Phillips thought were on strike. 233 00:13:49,173 --> 00:13:52,413 Speaker 3: So when he hits it's square or behind the stumps, 234 00:13:52,773 --> 00:13:54,933 Speaker 3: he'll be running back to the danger end. That's why 235 00:13:54,933 --> 00:13:58,573 Speaker 3: I'm saying Phillips will and so he can take that 236 00:13:58,693 --> 00:14:01,893 Speaker 3: second the other guy running away from the ball, but 237 00:14:01,973 --> 00:14:04,613 Speaker 3: as soon as it's in front of square, he's got 238 00:14:04,653 --> 00:14:09,653 Speaker 3: to be very careful. Indeed, So I don't know what 239 00:14:09,693 --> 00:14:11,653 Speaker 3: they're gonna pick, because you get down to there's a 240 00:14:11,653 --> 00:14:14,053 Speaker 3: big log jam. Wadds. When you say you don't know 241 00:14:14,053 --> 00:14:19,173 Speaker 3: where Latham's going to bat. He's normally been five, hasn't he. Yeah, 242 00:14:19,853 --> 00:14:22,333 Speaker 3: But I don't know how they're going to fit everybody 243 00:14:22,333 --> 00:14:26,653 Speaker 3: in who's after him? Santner or is it Bracewell or 244 00:14:26,773 --> 00:14:31,533 Speaker 3: Phillips or is it Chapman as you've discussed, or is 245 00:14:31,573 --> 00:14:34,853 Speaker 3: it Smith. All those guys are sort of around that 246 00:14:34,973 --> 00:14:38,533 Speaker 3: sort of seven eight nine area, So before you get 247 00:14:38,533 --> 00:14:42,053 Speaker 3: to your three seamers Henry Ferguson or Sears and O'Rourke. 248 00:14:42,573 --> 00:14:45,813 Speaker 3: So we'll have to wait and see how they how 249 00:14:45,813 --> 00:14:46,733 Speaker 3: they picked the pictures. 250 00:14:46,813 --> 00:14:50,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting challenges for the selectors. 251 00:14:51,413 --> 00:14:55,133 Speaker 1: Brian Waddle Jeremy Coney on the front. 252 00:14:54,853 --> 00:14:59,573 Speaker 2: Foot suggestions that the ICC will create a two tiered 253 00:14:59,613 --> 00:15:03,093 Speaker 2: test cricket format with the larger nations playing each other 254 00:15:03,453 --> 00:15:09,333 Speaker 2: more and regularly. Well, it's had a variety of opinion. 255 00:15:09,373 --> 00:15:12,133 Speaker 2: There's a there's a wide range of what the ICC 256 00:15:12,773 --> 00:15:16,893 Speaker 2: wants to do, and it's a new chairman, Jay Shah, 257 00:15:17,613 --> 00:15:21,453 Speaker 2: who's meeting representatives of Australian and English boards this month 258 00:15:21,773 --> 00:15:26,253 Speaker 2: to discuss the plans. Why Australia and England? Why not everybody? 259 00:15:26,613 --> 00:15:31,173 Speaker 2: Isn't this something that the whole world of cricket should 260 00:15:31,293 --> 00:15:35,133 Speaker 2: have a say on. The ic C there to foster 261 00:15:35,253 --> 00:15:39,773 Speaker 2: the game, to make sure that everybody is going to 262 00:15:40,653 --> 00:15:43,573 Speaker 2: take part in the Test match, but it seems they 263 00:15:43,613 --> 00:15:47,773 Speaker 2: want a two tier system. I'm with Clive Lloyd on this. 264 00:15:47,893 --> 00:15:50,613 Speaker 2: I think it's a it's it's going to be very 265 00:15:50,653 --> 00:15:52,533 Speaker 2: costly and very detrimental to the game. 266 00:15:52,693 --> 00:15:56,493 Speaker 3: And he said, Jerry, I don't have a problem with 267 00:15:56,613 --> 00:16:01,093 Speaker 3: the two tiers system per se. The devil will be 268 00:16:01,093 --> 00:16:04,453 Speaker 3: in the detail. These guys haven't met yet. It's been decided. 269 00:16:04,493 --> 00:16:07,093 Speaker 3: You know, it's been mooted for some years now as 270 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:11,013 Speaker 3: a possibility for astri sure of Test cricket. The BCSI, 271 00:16:11,533 --> 00:16:14,933 Speaker 3: BCCI actually closed it down initially, didn't they when they 272 00:16:15,013 --> 00:16:18,493 Speaker 3: sided with the teams like West Indies that you mentioned, 273 00:16:19,573 --> 00:16:22,493 Speaker 3: and so it didn't go ahead. But it certainly seems 274 00:16:22,493 --> 00:16:26,653 Speaker 3: like j Jay Shar in the chair that those concerns 275 00:16:26,733 --> 00:16:33,853 Speaker 3: no longer exist and India's position has changed. So I 276 00:16:33,933 --> 00:16:36,973 Speaker 3: think a couple of things. If you're going to have 277 00:16:37,013 --> 00:16:40,733 Speaker 3: a two tier system, one you've got to have promotion relegation. 278 00:16:41,813 --> 00:16:45,333 Speaker 3: That will not happen in my opinion, those three. I 279 00:16:45,333 --> 00:16:46,973 Speaker 3: don't know why it's only three. I'm with you on 280 00:16:47,013 --> 00:16:50,453 Speaker 3: that that they will not allow that to happen. The 281 00:16:50,453 --> 00:16:55,253 Speaker 3: possibility of England, who float around five and six constantly 282 00:16:56,653 --> 00:17:00,213 Speaker 3: they'll be near relegation. What happens about the Ashes if 283 00:17:00,213 --> 00:17:02,933 Speaker 3: they get into the second tier, they won't allow that 284 00:17:02,973 --> 00:17:05,413 Speaker 3: to happen. What happens of India? They lost three Tests 285 00:17:05,453 --> 00:17:08,653 Speaker 3: to New Zealand, if they lose three more, if they're 286 00:17:08,653 --> 00:17:13,093 Speaker 3: going down, what happens to border Gavaska? Then can you 287 00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:16,173 Speaker 3: see India or England or Australia can sign to play 288 00:17:16,213 --> 00:17:20,693 Speaker 3: Ireland and Zimbabwe for two years? Come on? They will 289 00:17:20,733 --> 00:17:24,373 Speaker 3: not allow that to happen. They won't tolerate it. So 290 00:17:24,493 --> 00:17:28,373 Speaker 3: I don't. I would rule it out on that thing alone. 291 00:17:28,653 --> 00:17:32,333 Speaker 3: And if promotion relegation is going is not going to happen, 292 00:17:33,373 --> 00:17:37,933 Speaker 3: you then can sign the second tier teams that's forty 293 00:17:38,093 --> 00:17:42,773 Speaker 3: of the current Test nations. You can sign them to 294 00:17:42,893 --> 00:17:46,853 Speaker 3: being forever there. And that means if they can't yet 295 00:17:47,013 --> 00:17:50,413 Speaker 3: you know promoted, their players will go and play franchise cricket. 296 00:17:50,773 --> 00:17:54,693 Speaker 3: The red ball will atrophy and crowds will disappear because 297 00:17:54,733 --> 00:17:58,293 Speaker 3: there's no chance of promotion to play against other teams. 298 00:17:58,893 --> 00:18:02,573 Speaker 3: So i'd mean, do these sides in the second tier 299 00:18:03,093 --> 00:18:04,893 Speaker 3: never play meaningful tests again? 300 00:18:05,413 --> 00:18:05,693 Speaker 2: You know. 301 00:18:07,133 --> 00:18:11,533 Speaker 3: Some of those sides already win away and sometimes at 302 00:18:11,573 --> 00:18:15,173 Speaker 3: home don't they. That's what they do. I mean, you've 303 00:18:15,253 --> 00:18:17,773 Speaker 3: just talked about some of those other sides. Was West 304 00:18:17,813 --> 00:18:22,213 Speaker 3: Indies beating Australia and Brisbane. England have not beaten the 305 00:18:22,213 --> 00:18:25,893 Speaker 3: West Indies for twenty years. In the West Indies, New 306 00:18:25,973 --> 00:18:29,093 Speaker 3: Zealand beat India three nil. As we know, Sri Lanka 307 00:18:29,133 --> 00:18:32,933 Speaker 3: beat England at the Oval. We've had a terrific Test 308 00:18:33,013 --> 00:18:37,253 Speaker 3: match series going on at the moment, you know. Bangladesh 309 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:40,893 Speaker 3: beat Pakistan away two nil. Pakistan at home with down 310 00:18:40,933 --> 00:18:44,253 Speaker 3: one nil went to beat England to one. England lost 311 00:18:44,293 --> 00:18:47,093 Speaker 3: to Bangladesh when they were away. These are the matches 312 00:18:47,613 --> 00:18:51,053 Speaker 3: that we've just had in the last year. So there's 313 00:18:51,093 --> 00:18:54,213 Speaker 3: been nothing wrong as far as I can see with 314 00:18:54,373 --> 00:18:57,613 Speaker 3: Test cricket. So the other point I would last make 315 00:18:58,373 --> 00:19:02,813 Speaker 3: is the money they're talking about, and that's really what 316 00:19:02,933 --> 00:19:05,693 Speaker 3: this is about in the end, these three taking money 317 00:19:05,693 --> 00:19:10,013 Speaker 3: out of the game from broadcasters. The other aspect I 318 00:19:10,013 --> 00:19:15,173 Speaker 3: would say is absolutely non negotiable is that there's a 319 00:19:15,333 --> 00:19:18,693 Speaker 3: sharing of money. We have a pool of money that 320 00:19:18,853 --> 00:19:22,133 Speaker 3: is taken from our Test cricket and it's to provide 321 00:19:22,173 --> 00:19:26,213 Speaker 3: the lesser nation with more resources, not all going to 322 00:19:26,293 --> 00:19:30,693 Speaker 3: the top three and so they would that from that fund, 323 00:19:31,333 --> 00:19:36,093 Speaker 3: you would then resource all the players, pay them, pay 324 00:19:36,133 --> 00:19:40,893 Speaker 3: the coaches, pay the umpires and the you know, the 325 00:19:40,893 --> 00:19:43,933 Speaker 3: match referees and so on, and it goes towards the 326 00:19:44,533 --> 00:19:49,573 Speaker 3: equipment and facilities of places where we're playing these matches, 327 00:19:49,773 --> 00:19:53,973 Speaker 3: and the venues. So I think those two things are critical. 328 00:19:54,173 --> 00:19:59,133 Speaker 3: Promotion relegation and the fund that you make from these 329 00:19:59,373 --> 00:20:02,813 Speaker 3: because of the broadcasters, that's where you get your money from. 330 00:20:04,653 --> 00:20:10,973 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I agree with everything that Jerry said. Sadly, I'm 331 00:20:11,013 --> 00:20:14,413 Speaker 4: on the page. Got to have promotion relegation, have to 332 00:20:14,453 --> 00:20:18,893 Speaker 4: have the sharing of resources and an absolute cast iron 333 00:20:18,933 --> 00:20:22,973 Speaker 4: commitment to bringing the lesser nations through. I don't think 334 00:20:22,973 --> 00:20:25,533 Speaker 4: you'll see that. I don't think you'll see promotion relegation. 335 00:20:25,653 --> 00:20:28,613 Speaker 4: If you do, I'm in favor of the concept, but 336 00:20:28,933 --> 00:20:30,613 Speaker 4: I think you have to be careful what you wish 337 00:20:30,653 --> 00:20:32,853 Speaker 4: for when you look at I mean, I think what 338 00:20:32,933 --> 00:20:35,013 Speaker 4: rugby's you know, if we look for a comparison and 339 00:20:35,053 --> 00:20:39,333 Speaker 4: think about rugby and the try nations over here. You know, 340 00:20:39,373 --> 00:20:42,613 Speaker 4: when New Zealand, South Africa and Australia signed that up, 341 00:20:42,653 --> 00:20:46,933 Speaker 4: it was for New Zealand fans playing the then top 342 00:20:47,053 --> 00:20:50,253 Speaker 4: nations regularly. It was a great thing. It's been a 343 00:20:50,253 --> 00:20:53,613 Speaker 4: snow fest for the last five, six, seven, eight years. 344 00:20:54,413 --> 00:20:57,853 Speaker 4: It's been dreadful so and in fact, what you've had 345 00:20:57,933 --> 00:21:01,013 Speaker 4: is a yearning from New Zealanders for full tours to 346 00:21:01,053 --> 00:21:04,853 Speaker 4: take place overseas with rugby, and for Lions tours to 347 00:21:04,893 --> 00:21:07,813 Speaker 4: take place here and for New Zealand tends to be 348 00:21:07,813 --> 00:21:11,573 Speaker 4: playing the six nation side. So it's you know, I 349 00:21:11,573 --> 00:21:15,133 Speaker 4: think one of the great magic of Test cricket is 350 00:21:15,133 --> 00:21:17,893 Speaker 4: that these sides don't play each other all the time, 351 00:21:18,093 --> 00:21:21,573 Speaker 4: and therefore there is this anticipation the more they play 352 00:21:21,573 --> 00:21:26,533 Speaker 4: each other, you know, familiarity breeds contempt. Having said that, 353 00:21:26,933 --> 00:21:29,373 Speaker 4: we're just looking and Jerry, you've talked about some of 354 00:21:29,413 --> 00:21:31,253 Speaker 4: the series that are going on around the world at 355 00:21:31,253 --> 00:21:35,613 Speaker 4: the moment. There's another one between India and Ireland and 356 00:21:35,693 --> 00:21:41,173 Speaker 4: women's fifty over cricket, and you're seeing India murdering Island 357 00:21:41,213 --> 00:21:44,493 Speaker 4: four hundred and thirty five for five in the last score, 358 00:21:44,533 --> 00:21:47,613 Speaker 4: world records being broken, or records for fastest hundreds and 359 00:21:47,653 --> 00:21:51,093 Speaker 4: so on. If you look at the fastest women's centries 360 00:21:52,733 --> 00:21:55,373 Speaker 4: by their players, you know three of them are against Ireland. 361 00:21:56,013 --> 00:21:58,893 Speaker 4: Divine and green. You remember in New Zealand went there 362 00:21:59,253 --> 00:22:02,933 Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen and smashed Ireland. Seven years later, the 363 00:22:02,973 --> 00:22:05,573 Speaker 4: same thing is still happening and Island is smashing them. 364 00:22:05,653 --> 00:22:08,813 Speaker 4: There's nothing good about that, there's nothing. No one wants 365 00:22:08,853 --> 00:22:10,413 Speaker 4: to go and see it, no one wants to be 366 00:22:10,493 --> 00:22:14,293 Speaker 4: involved with it. So somehow we have to support the 367 00:22:14,373 --> 00:22:19,293 Speaker 4: Lesson Nations. And I can't see with the current setups 368 00:22:19,653 --> 00:22:23,813 Speaker 4: in Ireland in India rather that that is going to happen. 369 00:22:23,853 --> 00:22:26,333 Speaker 4: And if it doesn't and if there isn't that commitment, 370 00:22:26,613 --> 00:22:29,653 Speaker 4: I mean promotion relegation would create a degree of excitement 371 00:22:29,733 --> 00:22:34,453 Speaker 4: and I like, I really do like that thought. And 372 00:22:34,493 --> 00:22:36,013 Speaker 4: you know, there is a lot of Test cricket played 373 00:22:36,053 --> 00:22:38,093 Speaker 4: around the world with very little interest in it. So 374 00:22:38,973 --> 00:22:42,453 Speaker 4: you know, I'm torn once but again I agree with 375 00:22:42,533 --> 00:22:46,373 Speaker 4: Jerry on the not negotiables, promotion, relegation and a fund 376 00:22:46,693 --> 00:22:49,493 Speaker 4: to bring through the Lesson Nations and develop their cricket. 377 00:22:50,013 --> 00:22:52,053 Speaker 2: The charm of Test cricket is about the fact that 378 00:22:52,373 --> 00:22:54,733 Speaker 2: you can have a series where New Zealand could beat 379 00:22:54,733 --> 00:22:58,693 Speaker 2: India three nil, that the West Indies were able to 380 00:22:58,933 --> 00:23:04,093 Speaker 2: beat Australia at some stage perhaps or any of those results. 381 00:23:04,133 --> 00:23:07,013 Speaker 2: That's what Test cricket is about. I don't want to 382 00:23:07,053 --> 00:23:09,373 Speaker 2: see Test cricket that was played at Sydney that you 383 00:23:09,453 --> 00:23:12,373 Speaker 2: went to come and see, as we talked about earlier, 384 00:23:12,733 --> 00:23:16,293 Speaker 2: being just a slogathon where you're playing reverse sweeps after 385 00:23:16,333 --> 00:23:19,933 Speaker 2: you've or scoops over the keeper after you've faced three balls. 386 00:23:19,973 --> 00:23:23,053 Speaker 2: I mean that to me was not the quality of 387 00:23:23,093 --> 00:23:25,173 Speaker 2: Test cricket I want to see. But I want to 388 00:23:25,173 --> 00:23:30,293 Speaker 2: see a competition that is meaningful for everybody, and that 389 00:23:30,453 --> 00:23:34,533 Speaker 2: has many implications for the ICC and as I say, 390 00:23:34,853 --> 00:23:38,453 Speaker 2: they're responsible for getting everybody together, aren't they, and making 391 00:23:38,493 --> 00:23:41,813 Speaker 2: sure that the game is fostered accordingly. 392 00:23:42,413 --> 00:23:46,813 Speaker 3: Absolutely a couple of points. I think the current system 393 00:23:46,853 --> 00:23:51,093 Speaker 3: we know is very flawed. We know that we discussed 394 00:23:51,093 --> 00:23:54,973 Speaker 3: this on this program, haven't we. There's a different number 395 00:23:54,973 --> 00:23:58,573 Speaker 3: of games for teams. There's not playing every other nation 396 00:23:59,653 --> 00:24:02,933 Speaker 3: as a league does mean you know, some sites have 397 00:24:02,973 --> 00:24:05,013 Speaker 3: a much easier route to the final, as we know. 398 00:24:07,413 --> 00:24:10,453 Speaker 3: But the point you're making was we need to devise 399 00:24:10,493 --> 00:24:14,773 Speaker 3: a system that works for all sides, not just three 400 00:24:14,813 --> 00:24:19,613 Speaker 3: of them. This is this which is what's being proposed 401 00:24:19,653 --> 00:24:23,453 Speaker 3: at the moment. And I went through all the test 402 00:24:23,493 --> 00:24:27,693 Speaker 3: matches Since twenty twenty to twenty twenty five. India have 403 00:24:27,773 --> 00:24:33,373 Speaker 3: played thirty eight tests in that time. Seventy one percent 404 00:24:33,453 --> 00:24:38,893 Speaker 3: of those tests are either against Australia or England seventy 405 00:24:38,973 --> 00:24:44,013 Speaker 3: one percent of them. Australia have played forty tests. Fifty 406 00:24:44,093 --> 00:24:47,653 Speaker 3: seven percent of those test matches are against India or England. 407 00:24:49,253 --> 00:24:51,653 Speaker 3: England have played the most, of course, as we know, 408 00:24:52,213 --> 00:24:56,093 Speaker 3: fifty eight tests. Forty one percent of those tests are 409 00:24:56,173 --> 00:25:00,213 Speaker 3: against India or OZ. What I'm saying is they are 410 00:25:00,253 --> 00:25:05,893 Speaker 3: already play each other by stealth a lot more than 411 00:25:05,933 --> 00:25:11,213 Speaker 3: other nations already, and so they're going to plan. This 412 00:25:11,373 --> 00:25:18,133 Speaker 3: plan is to move from nominant to excessive. And the 413 00:25:18,173 --> 00:25:22,693 Speaker 3: only four and five test series are played between these teams, 414 00:25:23,853 --> 00:25:30,093 Speaker 3: so already the smaller nations are marginalized. Now the other point, 415 00:25:30,973 --> 00:25:32,893 Speaker 3: now that's really I think all I need to. I 416 00:25:32,933 --> 00:25:36,173 Speaker 3: agree with what Garth says about the anticipation and the 417 00:25:36,253 --> 00:25:41,053 Speaker 3: build up. Rather than getting rather tired of seeing the 418 00:25:41,093 --> 00:25:45,013 Speaker 3: same teams play each other every week, that will occur 419 00:25:45,573 --> 00:25:49,173 Speaker 3: if these sides go ahead. After a while, it'll be 420 00:25:49,253 --> 00:25:52,493 Speaker 3: fine for two years, but after that, say oh not 421 00:25:52,613 --> 00:25:57,093 Speaker 3: in dear again, you know that will happen. And as 422 00:25:57,133 --> 00:26:00,293 Speaker 3: I say, if that does happen, we are the seven nations. 423 00:26:00,333 --> 00:26:02,613 Speaker 3: There are other seven nations. Let's go and be the 424 00:26:02,653 --> 00:26:07,413 Speaker 3: magnificent seven and leave the three to themselves. They'll soon 425 00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:08,373 Speaker 3: get sick of it. 426 00:26:08,653 --> 00:26:13,373 Speaker 1: Brian Waddle Jeremy Conny is on the front foot finally 427 00:26:13,413 --> 00:26:13,813 Speaker 1: this week. 428 00:26:14,093 --> 00:26:17,413 Speaker 2: Remember this, here's Taylor bowling to the New zealanday for two 429 00:26:17,413 --> 00:26:20,293 Speaker 2: slips in place. Our first delivery is driven down the ground. 430 00:26:20,653 --> 00:26:22,773 Speaker 2: That's a good firm stroke. It's going all the way 431 00:26:22,813 --> 00:26:25,053 Speaker 2: towards the boundary. I think I don't know that Sullivan, 432 00:26:25,093 --> 00:26:27,173 Speaker 2: Ben Orholder will be able to get it. It's slowing 433 00:26:27,213 --> 00:26:29,813 Speaker 2: up when it beat them to the boundary. Yes it does. 434 00:26:30,013 --> 00:26:33,253 Speaker 2: It goes before the first ball of the innings. Taylor 435 00:26:33,293 --> 00:26:35,173 Speaker 2: picks up the attack to bowl too a gup till 436 00:26:35,173 --> 00:26:38,013 Speaker 2: he drives down the ground. Another handsome shot and that's 437 00:26:38,013 --> 00:26:40,053 Speaker 2: going to go for four as well. Taylor again to 438 00:26:40,253 --> 00:26:42,573 Speaker 2: a gut to drives down the ground again. This time 439 00:26:42,653 --> 00:26:44,733 Speaker 2: it's a chase on the on side and that's four 440 00:26:44,813 --> 00:26:48,773 Speaker 2: more delivery has him pulling it awards six rounds. Buy 441 00:26:48,773 --> 00:26:52,333 Speaker 2: it's part one hand or two brilliant take leaning over 442 00:26:52,373 --> 00:26:54,333 Speaker 2: the fence, taking one handed by a man in an 443 00:26:54,373 --> 00:26:56,733 Speaker 2: orange shit. You go into the draw, palth. 444 00:26:56,973 --> 00:26:59,413 Speaker 5: Sit up to pushing one through the vacant point region 445 00:26:59,493 --> 00:27:02,933 Speaker 5: to bring up a half century rolaide. Martin Guptil seven 446 00:27:03,013 --> 00:27:07,573 Speaker 5: fours has fifty sixty four deliveries in and again sweeping 447 00:27:07,853 --> 00:27:10,493 Speaker 5: that could where he's found again. This should race away 448 00:27:10,533 --> 00:27:13,693 Speaker 5: towards the boundary and will that's when he drags down 449 00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:17,333 Speaker 5: and this one's cut away for more, this time in 450 00:27:17,453 --> 00:27:20,893 Speaker 5: front of point nine and Guptel not messing out and. 451 00:27:20,933 --> 00:27:23,013 Speaker 2: Each when he drives down the ground towards long on 452 00:27:23,253 --> 00:27:25,533 Speaker 2: fields when running across won't get to it. It's four runs. 453 00:27:26,013 --> 00:27:28,453 Speaker 2: That's another good straight drive from gut till. He's played 454 00:27:28,453 --> 00:27:31,333 Speaker 2: a number of those today and he's hit that one sweetly. 455 00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:34,613 Speaker 2: Samuel's bars to him and this one drives down the 456 00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:35,653 Speaker 2: ground and there he is. 457 00:27:35,813 --> 00:27:36,453 Speaker 1: Back to back. 458 00:27:36,413 --> 00:27:40,053 Speaker 2: Hundreds in World Cap cricket. Martin Guptel one hundred or 459 00:27:40,093 --> 00:27:44,093 Speaker 2: one hundred and eleven balls he celebrates and deserves too, 460 00:27:44,173 --> 00:27:47,253 Speaker 2: to a standing ovation here at the Wellington Stadium. One 461 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:48,973 Speaker 2: hundred Martin Guptel. 462 00:27:48,813 --> 00:27:50,973 Speaker 6: Into ball to gup till that's short and wide and 463 00:27:51,133 --> 00:27:54,253 Speaker 6: it gets what it deserves, goes into ball and Guptill 464 00:27:54,413 --> 00:27:56,133 Speaker 6: flicks is away to the deep buck of spared a 465 00:27:56,253 --> 00:27:58,933 Speaker 6: bandu fo ben bowles. Guptill goes back, chops is away 466 00:27:58,973 --> 00:28:02,773 Speaker 6: on the off side, doesn't beat the point fielder goes 467 00:28:02,813 --> 00:28:05,093 Speaker 6: through for a single and that is one hundred and 468 00:28:05,173 --> 00:28:08,453 Speaker 6: fifty for Martin Guptill one hundred and fifty to. 469 00:28:08,493 --> 00:28:10,653 Speaker 2: Have one hundred and thirty four balls and he raises 470 00:28:10,813 --> 00:28:13,093 Speaker 2: but here he is to Guptil and gut Till drives 471 00:28:13,173 --> 00:28:16,533 Speaker 2: over extra cover into the stand for six hold full 472 00:28:16,613 --> 00:28:18,213 Speaker 2: tow into the stand six more. 473 00:28:19,333 --> 00:28:19,653 Speaker 1: HULLO. 474 00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:22,293 Speaker 2: I don't know whether that one was caught. I lost 475 00:28:22,333 --> 00:28:24,573 Speaker 2: sight of It doesn't really matter. 476 00:28:24,853 --> 00:28:25,653 Speaker 4: It's six more. 477 00:28:25,933 --> 00:28:27,573 Speaker 2: Two of this one has him hitting over the on 478 00:28:27,733 --> 00:28:30,813 Speaker 2: side out into the deep and cleans the fiesman for 479 00:28:30,893 --> 00:28:33,053 Speaker 2: six hold their balls to gap Til and gup Til 480 00:28:33,093 --> 00:28:36,453 Speaker 2: hits over the extra cover out to the boundary six more, 481 00:28:37,173 --> 00:28:39,213 Speaker 2: turning it away on the on side backward square leg 482 00:28:39,373 --> 00:28:40,573 Speaker 2: out to the boundary four more. 483 00:28:42,733 --> 00:28:43,613 Speaker 4: For the second time. 484 00:28:43,773 --> 00:28:46,853 Speaker 2: He becomes the highest scorer of a one day one 485 00:28:46,933 --> 00:28:49,653 Speaker 2: hundred for New Zealand, one hundred and ninety two. 486 00:28:49,893 --> 00:28:52,133 Speaker 7: Into the crease past the umpire Boles hit straight down 487 00:28:52,173 --> 00:28:53,733 Speaker 7: the ground as at six. 488 00:28:55,013 --> 00:28:59,493 Speaker 3: One bounce, fours. 489 00:28:58,893 --> 00:29:03,533 Speaker 7: One, nine eight. Here is the delivery. Mighty Guptil drives 490 00:29:03,613 --> 00:29:07,693 Speaker 7: down the crowd. Four more Stand up New Zealand, Stand 491 00:29:07,813 --> 00:29:11,373 Speaker 7: up the world two one hundred and three not out 492 00:29:11,533 --> 00:29:15,093 Speaker 7: Martin Guptelus. 493 00:29:13,853 --> 00:29:19,413 Speaker 2: Glorious Martin Guptel twenty first of March twenty fifteen. One 494 00:29:19,453 --> 00:29:22,493 Speaker 2: of the finest innings I think he played in international 495 00:29:22,573 --> 00:29:25,533 Speaker 2: cricket and it was in the World Cup in Wellington. 496 00:29:25,613 --> 00:29:28,373 Speaker 2: We saw that, didn't we And I think Jerry. One 497 00:29:28,413 --> 00:29:30,893 Speaker 2: of the other innings that we saw of Martin Guptels 498 00:29:31,613 --> 00:29:34,333 Speaker 2: was the one hundred and eighty nine he scored against 499 00:29:34,413 --> 00:29:38,373 Speaker 2: England at Southampton early on in his career. What a 500 00:29:38,493 --> 00:29:42,333 Speaker 2: remarkable one day white ball career he's had. 501 00:29:42,813 --> 00:29:43,293 Speaker 3: You look at it. 502 00:29:43,413 --> 00:29:47,253 Speaker 2: He averaged forty one in ODI cricket, played one hundred 503 00:29:47,253 --> 00:29:50,773 Speaker 2: and ninety eight matches. That's quite remarkable those figures, aren't they. 504 00:29:51,173 --> 00:29:54,213 Speaker 3: And as an opener, Brian, that's one of the toughest 505 00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:57,373 Speaker 3: gigs in the game. Really, you know, the new ball, 506 00:29:57,453 --> 00:30:01,093 Speaker 3: fresh bowl is all that stuff with movement and bounce 507 00:30:01,173 --> 00:30:04,413 Speaker 3: in the field set, you know, to take advantage of 508 00:30:04,493 --> 00:30:10,053 Speaker 3: eras played all the formats, didn't he. You mentioned the 509 00:30:10,133 --> 00:30:14,493 Speaker 3: ode eyes that stands out, but tests forty seven tests 510 00:30:14,533 --> 00:30:18,573 Speaker 3: as well. I guess you're right, and that I think 511 00:30:18,653 --> 00:30:24,333 Speaker 3: people will recognize, particularly as white ball, and you know, 512 00:30:24,453 --> 00:30:27,053 Speaker 3: the shorter formats he seemed to suit his game a 513 00:30:27,093 --> 00:30:30,133 Speaker 3: little better. He's been around a long time, hasn't he. 514 00:30:30,773 --> 00:30:34,893 Speaker 3: The longevity of the player as well, something like these 515 00:30:34,933 --> 00:30:39,453 Speaker 3: over ten years, that's for sure, isn't he? Yep? Yep, yeah, 516 00:30:39,813 --> 00:30:44,173 Speaker 3: So I mean he's been part of important sides, hasn't he? 517 00:30:44,293 --> 00:30:48,253 Speaker 3: That that you mentioned the one the twenty fifteen in 518 00:30:48,373 --> 00:30:52,053 Speaker 3: Wellington and that became a runner up, didn't it. He 519 00:30:52,173 --> 00:30:54,333 Speaker 3: was a part of that side where that played Australian lost. 520 00:30:55,053 --> 00:30:59,893 Speaker 3: The twenty nineteen side was where we watched that in England, 521 00:31:01,013 --> 00:31:03,373 Speaker 3: and of course he was part of that desperate dive 522 00:31:03,533 --> 00:31:06,173 Speaker 3: not to get run out in the super over when 523 00:31:06,213 --> 00:31:08,893 Speaker 3: we scored exactly the same number of runs in the 524 00:31:09,013 --> 00:31:12,133 Speaker 3: super over and the fifty over match as well and 525 00:31:12,293 --> 00:31:16,573 Speaker 3: lost the contest, you know, frankly ridiculous rule devised by 526 00:31:16,573 --> 00:31:20,493 Speaker 3: people who don't understand the game. So, and the other 527 00:31:20,533 --> 00:31:21,973 Speaker 3: point I want to make about him, he was a 528 00:31:22,093 --> 00:31:27,813 Speaker 3: very fine fieldsman, very accurate catcher, moved in the field well, 529 00:31:28,533 --> 00:31:33,453 Speaker 3: you know, widespan, good wind diving. I remember his front 530 00:31:33,493 --> 00:31:36,253 Speaker 3: foot play, particularly the drive down the ground over the 531 00:31:36,333 --> 00:31:40,493 Speaker 3: bowler early on. It's quite a tricky thing to get that, 532 00:31:41,293 --> 00:31:45,373 Speaker 3: you know, risk reward, attack, defend early on in a 533 00:31:45,453 --> 00:31:48,933 Speaker 3: one day game. So he did that well. So yeah, Look, 534 00:31:49,133 --> 00:31:52,133 Speaker 3: he's got lots of medals, lots of awards, played for 535 00:31:52,253 --> 00:31:55,893 Speaker 3: loads of teams around the world because he's good, and 536 00:31:56,093 --> 00:31:58,973 Speaker 3: franchises want him as well. But he always wanted to 537 00:31:59,013 --> 00:32:00,893 Speaker 3: play for New Zealand. I want to make that point. 538 00:32:01,293 --> 00:32:04,453 Speaker 3: He always gave me the feeling I want to play 539 00:32:04,493 --> 00:32:08,373 Speaker 3: for my country and he was available to play and 540 00:32:08,413 --> 00:32:11,933 Speaker 3: it was only when he was dropped that he departed 541 00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:12,653 Speaker 3: his contract. 542 00:32:13,093 --> 00:32:17,133 Speaker 4: Good player, yeah, I mean I think a very player 543 00:32:17,173 --> 00:32:20,413 Speaker 4: with a simple game plan too. When we look at 544 00:32:20,413 --> 00:32:22,493 Speaker 4: the sort of shots that are played by players now, 545 00:32:23,373 --> 00:32:25,773 Speaker 4: he was able to do it in a more dare 546 00:32:25,813 --> 00:32:29,493 Speaker 4: I say it conservative and orthodox way. Magnificent striker one 547 00:32:29,573 --> 00:32:33,453 Speaker 4: hundred and three in a chasing win at Lords in 548 00:32:33,533 --> 00:32:35,973 Speaker 4: twenty and thirteen, and then that one hundred and eighty 549 00:32:36,053 --> 00:32:37,853 Speaker 4: nine not out that you've talked about a two to 550 00:32:37,893 --> 00:32:41,133 Speaker 4: one series win to New Zealand, one hundred and eighty 551 00:32:41,213 --> 00:32:44,453 Speaker 4: nine out against South Africa. I mean his scoring those 552 00:32:44,533 --> 00:32:46,693 Speaker 4: major innings and that two thirty seven not out that 553 00:32:46,853 --> 00:32:52,253 Speaker 4: you touched on against the West Indies in Wellington was incredible, 554 00:32:52,333 --> 00:32:58,333 Speaker 4: scoring eighteen centuries behind on Williamson who scored twenty one. 555 00:32:59,653 --> 00:33:02,933 Speaker 4: You know, his record speaks for itself. A magnificent striker 556 00:33:02,973 --> 00:33:06,973 Speaker 4: of the ball, unflustered and a player who I think 557 00:33:07,093 --> 00:33:10,533 Speaker 4: never sought the limelight. You know, I'm sure that Martin 558 00:33:10,573 --> 00:33:14,693 Speaker 4: Gupdel has an ego, he didn't bring it overtly into 559 00:33:14,773 --> 00:33:18,173 Speaker 4: the area. But also and this T twenty record a 560 00:33:18,253 --> 00:33:22,813 Speaker 4: fambulous record there where he averages thirty one, Williamson averages 561 00:33:22,893 --> 00:33:26,493 Speaker 4: thirty three and by contrast, Taylor twenty seven two centuries. 562 00:33:26,733 --> 00:33:29,173 Speaker 4: Taylor and Williamson haven't scored them. He scored one against 563 00:33:29,213 --> 00:33:32,733 Speaker 4: South Africa, one against Australia and T twenty cricket. He 564 00:33:32,813 --> 00:33:36,493 Speaker 4: will be remembered as one of our great cricketers, particularly 565 00:33:36,493 --> 00:33:38,013 Speaker 4: our great white ball players. 566 00:33:38,453 --> 00:33:40,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, and still a player keen to play for Auckland. 567 00:33:40,973 --> 00:33:43,293 Speaker 2: He's been part of the Dream eleven super smash. I'm 568 00:33:43,333 --> 00:33:45,893 Speaker 2: not sure how long that will go for but he 569 00:33:46,013 --> 00:33:49,573 Speaker 2: certainly dragged the crowds in a very entertaining player and 570 00:33:49,693 --> 00:33:52,333 Speaker 2: wish him all the best, Thank him for his contribution 571 00:33:52,693 --> 00:33:55,093 Speaker 2: to New Zealand cricket and I'm sure we'll see more 572 00:33:55,333 --> 00:34:00,493 Speaker 2: of Martin Gaptel around the scene at in recent times. Anyway, 573 00:34:01,053 --> 00:34:03,813 Speaker 2: time for us to finish off. We have got no 574 00:34:04,013 --> 00:34:08,733 Speaker 2: international cricket. It's Dream eleven super smash boys. You can 575 00:34:08,933 --> 00:34:15,693 Speaker 2: enjoy the sunshine on the banquet at Hagley or at Well. 576 00:34:16,333 --> 00:34:18,253 Speaker 2: I don't know howton Park. I don't play much there, 577 00:34:18,293 --> 00:34:21,613 Speaker 2: do they Cherry and I'll go to the basin. 578 00:34:24,133 --> 00:34:29,893 Speaker 3: Well done and you're very dead. Yeah all right boys, 579 00:34:29,933 --> 00:34:32,773 Speaker 3: thanks you much, get the quarter talking again. Good to 580 00:34:32,773 --> 00:34:36,213 Speaker 3: see you guys. Yeah, take care of that's chairs now, Lobel. 581 00:34:36,333 --> 00:34:38,933 Speaker 3: Wonderful summer. 582 00:34:45,733 --> 00:34:48,293 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b listen live on 583 00:34:48,413 --> 00:34:51,373 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 584 00:34:51,453 --> 00:34:54,013 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.