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Speaker 3: News Talks MB. It's fourteen minutes after four Ryan No

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Speaker 3: All right, Piney, I appreciate that. Thanks so much. We

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Speaker 3: Why the sixth that you've packed, I mean, at what

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Speaker 3: most definitely. Now, Kiwi Homebuyers, after five, we're going to

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Speaker 2: Came to all this Lanland talking.

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Speaker 1: Recording the challenging questions to the people. At the heart

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Speaker 8: SETBT Judith, So can you.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five away from five news talks at B Here's

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Speaker 3: some interesting numbers for you. We've already lowered the average

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Speaker 1: It's the World Wires on News Dogs Eddy Drive.

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Speaker 3: So Trump's ordered the release of some Epstein documents, Dan

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Speaker 3: Mitchon here In a second on that, the former Attorney

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Speaker 9: For years, the right wing, the Marga base, Trumpeters followers

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Speaker 3: Taiwan is holding a major military drill, the Live Fire

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Tuddle International correspondence with Ends and Eye

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Speaker 3: We're all number one of affairs. Of course, don't do

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Speaker 10: Now my favorite, that is my favorite story of the

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump also well Caroline Live at his prespretory, was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the old it's the old beast that you've

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Speaker 3: got to feed and the cost of transmitting to Dan.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your times. Dan Mitchinson with us, our US correspondent

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Speaker 3: this afternoon time now is nineteen minutes away from five.

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Speaker 3: Barry Soper is with us. Next, we have some answers,

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Speaker 3: some insight from Winston Peters because we've asked Stuart Nation

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Speaker 3: a thousand times are you going to run for New Zealand? First,

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Speaker 3: are you going to be on the ticket? Well, we're

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Speaker 3: here from Winston.

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Speaker 1: Next Politics with Centric Credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 3: Sir John Keys come out and said something quite interesting today,

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Speaker 3: well this week actually about the o C. I I'll

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Speaker 3: get to that in a second. Barry Soper here seen

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Speaker 3: your political correspondent. Hey bez, good afternoon.

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Speaker 8: I thought you were saying, John Keyes said something interesting.

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Speaker 3: Well about the OICR. Yeah, I think people will find

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Speaker 3: it very interesting actually almost potentially a little bit exciting

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Speaker 3: for people too. Now, speculation about Stuart Nash. This has

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Speaker 3: been doing the chaps for a while, but we hear

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Speaker 3: him from Winston Peters about.

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Speaker 8: This, Well, yes, yeah, I would. I would bet my

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Speaker 8: bottom dollar that Stuart Nash will be on the New

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Speaker 8: Zealand first ticket or ballot become the election next year.

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Speaker 8: I've no doubt about that. Don't forget. Stuart Nash was

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Speaker 8: sacked by Chris Hopkins just over two years ago, so

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Speaker 8: not that long ago. He hasn't ment on politics that long,

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Speaker 8: has been doing up that pub in downtown Napier, but

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Speaker 8: he was sacked for telling some mates too much about

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Speaker 8: what went on in cabinet. And so Chris Hopkins is

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Speaker 8: not his greatest fan and he I think it cuts

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Speaker 8: both ways. But look, Stuart Nash is never in my view,

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Speaker 8: and I've known him ever since he was pen and

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Speaker 8: poll He's never been a great fit for the Labor Party.

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Speaker 8: He's too center right for the Labor Party that was

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Speaker 8: trying to drag itself back to the left. So he

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Speaker 8: was always uncomfortable there. I mean, you've even got people

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Speaker 8: like now Chris Troffers saying that he voted for the

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Speaker 8: New Zealand First at the last election. So there's a

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Speaker 8: bit of a swing towards old Winston if you look

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Speaker 8: at that last opinion poll. But if you listened to

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Speaker 8: Winston on the Country with my cousy bro Jamie mckaye today,

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Speaker 8: you were left in no doubt about how Winston Peters

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Speaker 8: sees Nash.

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Speaker 11: Sure it's not part of the right. Stuart is a

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Speaker 11: very practical, grounded politician, like the old Labor Party was

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Speaker 11: when they got out there to build New Zealand and

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Speaker 11: build in destruction, did all sorts of things, and then

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Speaker 11: they went woke. In more recent times, set after Helen Clark,

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Speaker 11: they went totally work and they're not recognizable from what

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Speaker 11: they used to be. That's why Stuart's got no place.

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Speaker 11: It's called over the moment.

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Speaker 8: So come home to Winston.

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Speaker 3: It's all very well for Winston to say that the

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Speaker 3: did annoint just Cinda a durn post woke. Oh, I know,

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 8: Think on reflection, Winston would look back on that and

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Speaker 8: say that probably that was as big as political state

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Speaker 8: that he's made and all the time he's been in politics.

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Speaker 8: And when you consider that Bill English had seven percent

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Speaker 8: more than Labor did on the night and I remember,

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Speaker 8: you know, I remember thinking, he can't ignore English. But

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Speaker 8: don't forget it was English that moved the motion of

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Speaker 8: to get rid of Winston from the National Party many

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Speaker 8: years before.

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Speaker 3: And there was all the leaks about the super and

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Speaker 3: there was, hey, what about the Stephen Colberer thing? That'll

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Speaker 3: be speaking of Sinda a dune upsetting for her.

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Speaker 8: No, I'll be, She'll be terribly sad, should be heartbroken.

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Speaker 3: I was with her in.

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Speaker 8: The studio for the Late Show in New York when

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Speaker 8: she made her appearance and made now what is very

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Speaker 8: famous invitation to Stephen Colbert to come to New Zealand

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Speaker 8: and she'd pick him up at the airport, which duly did.

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Speaker 8: It was going a bit overboard for a prime minister.

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Speaker 8: But nevertheless, I guess it puts New Zealand in its place,

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Speaker 8: a little country down under. But you know, and you

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Speaker 8: were surprised that the number of people that work for

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Speaker 8: the show. It's an institution in the United States, the

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Speaker 8: biggest rating show in the evening and they've even got

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Speaker 8: a whole theater.

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Speaker 3: Devoted dedicated to the Late Show, and I suppose it

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Speaker 3: would include all the camera, all the live crew, as

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Speaker 3: well as the producers and the setup.

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Speaker 8: And they have a live audience. And you remember John

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Speaker 8: Key was on his predecessor, Dave Letterman show, and I

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Speaker 8: was also in the studio then, so I've been there

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Speaker 8: a few times watching our politicians perform. But look, this

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Speaker 8: is what Colbert had to say about the Trump settlement

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Speaker 8: with CBS. Don't forget he sued CBS over a sixty

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Speaker 8: minute piece and got sixteen billion dollars for it. And

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Speaker 8: this is what Colbert had to say, and about not

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Speaker 8: why the show was canned. But everybody thinks this is

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Speaker 8: what it was.

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Speaker 4: I believe that this kind of complicated financial settlement with

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Speaker 4: a setting government official has a technical name in legal circles.

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Speaker 2: It's big fat bribe.

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Speaker 8: He's not the biggest fan of Donald Trump, and I

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Speaker 8: think that's been clear right from the start.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because Trump coming in reshapes the landscape and

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Speaker 3: the traditional media outlets that were begging him for so long.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at that Morning Joe program on MSNBC. Yes,

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Speaker 3: they spent years dedicating entire shows to bagging the guy.

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Speaker 3: He gets in and they go visit him at the

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Speaker 3: White House. Yes, that's right, you've got to do it.

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Speaker 3: You know. Hey, a Prime minister and civil defenseman is

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Speaker 3: going to be visiting Tasman tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's Mark Mitchell who've just talked to. They're going

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Speaker 8: down to Tasman. I would imagine that there will be

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Speaker 8: some financial announcement there because the farmers have done it

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Speaker 8: particularly bad in that part of the country. And you know,

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Speaker 8: I would say watch the space, although nobody's told me

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Speaker 8: anything about what's going to happen when it be flying

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Speaker 8: over the area and the helicopter, but these visits are

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Speaker 8: usually accompanied with some sort of financial commitment from the government,

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Speaker 8: So expect that tomorrow, and I'm sure the farmer's down

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Speaker 8: there will be looking forward with some anticipation to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Barry, thank you for that. Very Soper Senior

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Speaker 3: little correspondent, will have him back out on the show

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Speaker 3: after six two wrap the week in political news. Coming

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Speaker 3: up after five o'clock, we are going to talk to

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Speaker 3: Erica Stamford about the classrooms, but we're also going to

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Speaker 3: talk to Jane Kyley, you know, Location, Location, Location, who

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Speaker 3: doesn't love that program, the Kiwi version. She's going to

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Speaker 3: come on to talk about these number. The survey numbers

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Speaker 3: on how many people go into when you go into

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Speaker 3: an open home, go into the wardrobe and then go

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Speaker 3: into the draws in people's closets. I think it's weird anyway.

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Speaker 3: Number I think will surprise you. At least it should

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Speaker 3: ten away from five.

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Speaker 1: Digging into the issues that affect you the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 12: The best advice I offer anyone, in fact, including our kids,

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Speaker 12: do it yourself.

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Speaker 3: It's your life, your decision, your future. Do it yourself.

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Speaker 12: This is the cost plus accounting that goes on, and

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Speaker 12: it's in power, it's in rates, it's an insurance.

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Speaker 3: We need to look.

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Speaker 12: And learn and then get our act together and apply

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Speaker 12: a bit of basic discipline to our long term futures

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Speaker 12: that doesn't rely on the government. Back Monday from six

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Speaker 12: am The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bayley's Real Estate News

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Speaker 12: Talk ZIB.

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Speaker 3: It is seven minutes away from five on News Talk ZIB.

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Speaker 3: Just speaking to Barry's Soopa there about Winston Peters and

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Speaker 3: his view on Stuart Nash and Laura. Our producer was

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Speaker 3: just reminding me of the chat that we had with

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Speaker 3: Stuart nash on Tuesday on Drive this week, and he

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Speaker 3: was well, not only was he very scathing of David Seymour,

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Speaker 3: which we'll get to, but he had some nice, warm,

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Speaker 3: fluffy feelings about Winston too.

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Speaker 6: You've got Winston Peters, who is our most experienced.

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Speaker 13: Diplomat walking a real tight rope in international affairs and

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Speaker 13: I think doing a fantastic job.

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Speaker 3: We've got also Winston paying back the favor.

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Speaker 11: Sure is a very practical, rounded politician.

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Speaker 3: And this is what this is what Nashy thought of

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Speaker 3: David Seymour.

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Speaker 6: The fact that he didn't know that, you know, Winston

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Speaker 6: Peters is the guy who deals with New Zealand's affairs

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Speaker 6: on the global stage and just just sends off a

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Speaker 6: letter of his own accord. I mean, what planet does

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Speaker 6: this guy on is?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Is it that big of a deal.

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Speaker 13: It just goes to Seymour acting on his He's just

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Speaker 13: a bit of an arrogant little toss in my view,

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Speaker 13: so he.

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Speaker 3: Won't be joining the act party really now. The former

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister, Sir John Key. I think people are going

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Speaker 3: to like what he's had to say, but I'm keen

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Speaker 3: to hear what your thoughts nine two nine two. So

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Speaker 3: former Prime Minister John Key, this is reporting from the

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Speaker 3: Herald today, comes out at a conference he was at

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Speaker 3: this week, a Deloitte event in Auckland, and says the

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Speaker 3: RBNZ needs to cut interest rates hard fast and now

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Speaker 3: one hundred basis points oh, quote them, interest rates are

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Speaker 3: too high. I don't want to sound like Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: telling off Jerown Powell, but they should be one hundred

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Speaker 3: basis points lower. Seriously. There might be a little bit

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Speaker 3: of food inflation, but it's very little. Well, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: feel little, so if you're going into the grocery store.

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Speaker 3: But yet, Okay, granted, fuel inflation isn't much, he says,

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Speaker 3: And there's certainly no wage inflation. And even if there was,

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Speaker 3: I'd trade direct quote, I'd trade a bit of inflation

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Speaker 3: to get the place going. This is the kind of

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Speaker 3: gung ho stuff you want, isn't it. He also gets

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Speaker 3: the boot into adrienne Or and says, yes, he did

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Speaker 3: mismanaged monetary policy over several years. Quote Adrian fixated on

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Speaker 3: getting interest rates to zero. Then he fixated on having

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Speaker 3: them too high for too long. A lot of the

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Speaker 3: indicators of the Reserve Bank looks at are lagging indicators

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Speaker 3: there quite late to the party, which is true, and

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Speaker 3: they are making a concerted effort to try and look

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Speaker 3: at more what they call high frequency indicators so that

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Speaker 3: they can get a look under the hood more regularly

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Speaker 3: and get a pulse that's actually a little more accurate

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Speaker 3: and current than backwards looking. So, yeah, what do we

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Speaker 3: think of that? I think bring it on one hundred

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Speaker 3: basis points next month. I'm into it. Four minutes away

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Speaker 3: from five. After five, we'll talk to Erica Stamford, the

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Speaker 3: Education Minister, about this new agency that she's setting up.

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Speaker 3: Why do we need a new agency? Why do we

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Speaker 3: need a new working group to get us to the

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Speaker 3: new agency headed by the former education minister. We'll ask

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Speaker 3: that question. And then after six we're talking to Dame

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Speaker 3: Terrace Walsh, business leader chair of in New Zealand. This

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Speaker 3: is about the China summit she was at today in Auckland.

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Speaker 3: What do we need to do to hit some of

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Speaker 3: those second tier cities? You know, when we go to China,

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Speaker 3: we always go to Beijing, we always go to Shanghai.

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Speaker 3: How do we get into those more developing second tier

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Speaker 3: city markets. That's where our goods need to be and

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Speaker 3: Dame Terrace has some ideas. That's after six News Talks AB.

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand let's get connected.

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Speaker 3: We can now reveal the nature of the objectionable material

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Speaker 3: that was allegedly found on the work devices of the

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Speaker 3: former police Deputy commissioner. They were images of child sex,

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Speaker 3: exploitation and beast reality. Jared Savage is the head's investigative reporter.

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Speaker 3: He's with us now, Hi, Jared Gooday?

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Speaker 6: Ryan?

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Speaker 3: So why can we only now reveal the nature of

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Speaker 3: this material.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's been quite drawn out.

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Speaker 8: Let's see.

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Speaker 14: Jimmy mcskimming resigned quite suddenly in May. It didn't take

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Speaker 14: long for reporters to start writing stories saying that there'd

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Speaker 14: been pornographic material allegedly found on his work devices. And

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Speaker 14: then and then that led into potentially objectionable material found

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Speaker 14: on those work devices. Now, as soon as we started

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Speaker 14: getting quite close and on those allegations. There was an

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Speaker 14: injunction from the High Court slap down on us by

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Speaker 14: mc Skimming's lawyer, Linda Clark, and that led to me, R,

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Speaker 14: m Z and stuff websites sort of banding together to

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Speaker 14: sort of to fight this injunction which was a non

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Speaker 14: publication order which was stopping us from reporting the exact

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Speaker 14: nature of the alleged objectional material found on mc skimming's devices.

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Speaker 3: Jared, how was the content actually discovered?

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Speaker 14: So mc skimming, who was the Deputy Police Commissioner, he

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Speaker 14: had been suspended since late last year in December under

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Speaker 14: criminal investigation for a separate matter which we can't talk

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Speaker 14: about for legal reasons, but as part of that inquiry,

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Speaker 14: we've obviously gone through his work devices as part of

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Speaker 14: that investigation and on there have found this alleged objectional

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Speaker 14: material that has led to a separate investigation. And then

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Speaker 14: once sort of he was confronted with the alleged existence

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Speaker 14: of this material, he resigned shortly afterwards in May. So

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Speaker 14: that's how it's kind of spun out of a different inquiry.

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Speaker 3: Right, so May he resigned at that time. What was

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Speaker 3: said about the reason for that resignation, So.

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Speaker 14: The Police Minister Mark Mitchell came out and basically said

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Speaker 14: there was some very serious allegations that have been made

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Speaker 14: against mc skimming. He didn't specify any any sort of

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Speaker 14: details for that reason other than to say, look, if

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Speaker 14: he hadn't resigned, we would have we would have sacked him. Basically,

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Speaker 14: it was what it was that that was the sort

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Speaker 14: of the serious that the seriousness level, that's what That's

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Speaker 14: what Mitchell put it at. But both Mark Mitchell and

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Speaker 14: the police missioner, which Chambers wouldn't comment at all about,

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Speaker 14: you know the actual reason why, and it's it's you know,

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Speaker 14: it's been media reporting that's led us to this point

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Speaker 14: today where we can say it's because child seeks exploitation

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Speaker 14: and beast downity material were allegedly found on MC skimming's

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Speaker 14: work devices and that's what led to his resignation.

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Speaker 3: Also led to police reviewing their internal IT systems as

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Speaker 3: a result of what was found. What did they find?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So the day of the same day that mix

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Speaker 14: coming resigned, Richard Chambers came out and said, look, we're

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Speaker 14: going to audit. We're going to audit a review all

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Speaker 14: their IT systems. It came back to say it's pretty

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Speaker 14: much fit for purpose. However, there were some weaknesses there

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Speaker 14: which they are looking to shore up. It seems like

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Speaker 14: there hadn't been sort of regular auditing of police staff

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Speaker 14: data and Internet usage on their devices, so that that

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Speaker 14: had sort of been in place but had been halted

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Speaker 14: about four or five years ago. And Chambers sort of

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Speaker 14: has come back and said, look, well, the first thing

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Speaker 14: we're going to do is reinstate those random audits so

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Speaker 14: I keep a closer eye on what staff may or

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Speaker 14: may not be looking at on their devices.

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Speaker 3: All right, Jared, thank you for that update. That's Jared

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Speaker 3: Savage the Herald's Investigative Report Order with an update there

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Speaker 3: on Jevin mcskimming time now eleven after five, Ryan brid

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Speaker 3: The Ministry of Education will soon have some of its

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Speaker 3: decision making powers taken away from it. The Education Minister

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Speaker 3: Erica Stamford, announcing today that a new School Property Agency

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Speaker 3: will be stood up and it's going to take over

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Speaker 3: the government's school property portfolio. They will commission, they will

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Speaker 3: administer all that stuff. Erica Stamford with me now home, Minister.

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Speaker 15: Good afternoon. It's been a while.

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Speaker 3: It's been a hot minute since I last spoke to you.

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Speaker 3: We spoke to each other this morning. Of course, So

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Speaker 3: why do you because you're taking this property away from

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Speaker 3: the Ministry of Education, what are you going to get

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Speaker 3: out of a new agency that they couldn't give you.

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Speaker 15: Well, of course, you remember that we launched a school

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Speaker 15: property inquiry and a key part and the key finding

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Speaker 15: of that requiring inquiry that McCully and Bins did was

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Speaker 15: around the inflexibility of the system which was leading to

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Speaker 15: poor outcomes, poor communication, lack of accountability and not very

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Speaker 15: good value for money, and schools were getting pretty frustrated.

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Speaker 15: What we need is an entity that is run by

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Speaker 15: a commercially minded board who are captains of industry, who

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Speaker 15: can help deliver really good value for money and are

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Speaker 15: able to deliver property solutions in a different way to

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Speaker 15: drive better value for money. Because schools have a range

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Speaker 15: of different problems, they have a range of different abilities

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Speaker 15: on their boards, they all need different things, but the

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Speaker 15: Ministry has always had a one size fits all approach

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Speaker 15: and we have not had the commercial acumen. They're very

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Speaker 15: good people at the Ministry, but we want to drive

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Speaker 15: for much better results. This was a key recommendation out

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Speaker 15: of the property inquiry.

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Speaker 3: And you're setting up in the meantime, a ministerial advisory

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Speaker 3: group to get us to this. How will the staff

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Speaker 3: members who you take on board with the new Crown agency?

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Speaker 3: Will it be less or will it be more? Will

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Speaker 3: the cost of it be less or more than what

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Speaker 3: the Ministry is currently doing it for?

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Speaker 15: Look, that's yet to be worked through. But one thing

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Speaker 15: I can tell you is that the savings that this

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Speaker 15: will generate by driving far greater efficient sees will well

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Speaker 15: outweigh the costs of this entity, and so much so

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Speaker 15: that we are not going to be doing a budget

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Speaker 15: bid for this. We are going to be We'll just

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Speaker 15: be coming out of the savings that we create by

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Speaker 15: driving those efficiencies. We've already done a huge amount of

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Speaker 15: heavy lifting. I was able to announce one hundred million

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Speaker 15: dollars of school property before the budget because of the

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Speaker 15: savings we've already been driving. And look, sometimes we find

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Speaker 15: savings out of one or two property, you know, school

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Speaker 15: properties that we are underway, that would generate enough savings

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Speaker 15: for the entity to cover them for a couple of years.

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Speaker 15: So it will certainly pay for itself.

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Speaker 3: No doubt. You've won the argument on the big barnyard classrooms.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to fund schools un barnyarding.

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Speaker 15: One of the things that we will do with the

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Speaker 15: new entity is get them to start looking at that.

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Speaker 15: What we have to do is draw a line in

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Speaker 15: the sand and say we're not doing it from here

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Speaker 15: on in. We will also work with schools with their

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Speaker 15: current budgets that they have. We also have and we

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Speaker 15: will be announcing some top up funding for those school

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Speaker 15: budgets to be able to do certain things with their property.

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Speaker 15: They do maintenance and health and safety, but they also

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Speaker 15: have funding in their budgets to be able to reconfigure classrooms.

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Speaker 15: We will to see what we can do to help.

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Speaker 15: We've already had a couple of projects that are going

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Speaker 15: through the pipeline where we've just said, yep, put the

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Speaker 15: walls back in. So we will work as flexibly as

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Speaker 15: we possibly can with schools. But this has happened for decades.

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Speaker 15: There are still open planned classrooms from the early nineteen

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Speaker 15: eighties that still exist. I know that because they're at

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Speaker 15: my local schools. So it is going to take some time,

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Speaker 15: but we're committed to working through that.

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Speaker 3: All right, minister, appreciate your time tonight. Erica Stanford, Education Minister.

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Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, we'll talk about how many

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Speaker 3: people in the survey answered yes to do you look

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Speaker 3: in people's drawers when you go to an open home?

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Speaker 3: Plus an update on Judith Collins and her health after

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Speaker 3: a bad dose of vertigo. News TALKSB eighteen minutes after five.

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Speaker 3: This is a quick text from one of our craigs, Bryan.

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Speaker 3: I was at an open home recently and we were

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Speaker 3: told not to open any drawers or closed doors in

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Speaker 3: the house. Clearly there is a problem with people attending

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Speaker 3: open homes. Barry Soper just told me that he had

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Speaker 3: a jacket stolen from it when he had an open home. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: what is wrong with people? We'll get to Jane Kylee

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Speaker 3: in just a few minutes about this because there's a

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Speaker 3: new survey out. Very quick update on Judith Collins. She

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Speaker 3: had a bad case of vertigo. Judith Collins has seven portfolios.

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Speaker 3: They include defense Space. I mean, imagine being the ministry

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Speaker 3: of all of space. It's a big place, very stressful.

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Speaker 3: She's also the Attorney General and we texted her because

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Speaker 3: a lot of you were yesterday were asking how is

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Speaker 3: Judith Collins? So it's all text you and she's given

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Speaker 3: us a text back, I'll just read it to you

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Speaker 3: in full. I'm definitely on the end, she says. I

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Speaker 3: was in the caucus meeting, started to feel a bit dizzy.

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Speaker 3: Eventually walked back to my office, felt okay, and then

817
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Speaker 3: during a meeting, I felt I was about to faint,

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Speaker 3: not something I've ever done before. And then I asked

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Speaker 3: my staff to get Doc Dorretti. So when you're in trouble,

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Speaker 3: you have called Doc Derretti. I became nauseous and incapable

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Speaker 3: of walking. Anyway, I'm getting a lot better, she says.

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Speaker 3: The point is not to get a virus as I

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Speaker 3: did last week, and then keep on going. And six

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Speaker 3: flights in one day might have been a bit much,

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Speaker 3: you think so, especially in the freezing cold, She says.

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Speaker 3: I'm so much better now, getting better each day as

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Speaker 3: I do the exercises that the physiotherapist at Wellington Hospital

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Speaker 3: gave me. She says, I'm having to retrain my inner ear,

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Speaker 3: which is verdigo for you, isn't it. Nineteen after five

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Speaker 3: Ray and Bridge Jim jack keeyes might be a little

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Speaker 3: nosier than we like to admit. So this survey I

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Speaker 3: was talking about when you go to an open home

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Speaker 3: seventy two percent of US admitted to snooping inside wardrobes

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Speaker 3: at open homes, sixty nine percent inside cupboards and draws.

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Speaker 3: Thirty nine percent of us look inside people's bathroom cabinets

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Speaker 3: during the open home. Fourteen percent check out the homeowner's

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Speaker 3: personal items and photos on display. Jane Kylie is a

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Speaker 3: Ray White real estate agent and Location Location Location, New

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Speaker 3: Zealand host with Me tonight. Hijane, Hi, Ryan, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: sound great?

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Speaker 10: Does it not good?

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Speaker 3: Stats?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 3: But are you surprised to hear that? Or is this

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Speaker 3: reflect what you see?

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Speaker 16: Very very surprised. And to be honest, in our world

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Speaker 16: and our farm are and the properties that we sell.

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Speaker 16: I mean, in eleven years I've been selling, I have

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Speaker 16: not had one item stolen or moved around or the

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Speaker 16: houses always looks the same when the vendors come back

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Speaker 16: to how it was when they left. But to be honest,

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Speaker 16: we keep a very stringent eye on the buyers that

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Speaker 16: come through our properties. If it's a big home, we

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Speaker 16: will have multiple personnel in the home as well on

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Speaker 16: different levels.

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Speaker 17: We try and front foot.

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Speaker 16: If anyone looks like they shouldn't be there or they're

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Speaker 16: not probably genuine buyers will keep a pretty pretty good

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Speaker 16: eye on them. And also we remind a lot of

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Speaker 16: our buyers, you know, sort of smile for the camera

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Speaker 16: or because a lot of our properties have internal security systems,

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Speaker 16: audio systems, so we just sort of joke and say, look,

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Speaker 16: don't say anything mean about the house, because you know

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Speaker 16: someone's probably listening to you. Just so people know, Max

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Speaker 16: whenever I well, if I can't watch them, someone else

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Speaker 16: might be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now is it okay? Because wardrobes I can understand,

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Speaker 3: because you've got to know, you know, whether you're going

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Speaker 3: to fit yours in there?

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Speaker 16: Social awareness?

871
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but draws no go zone.

872
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 16: Absolutely, no go zone. I mean, are you when you

873
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Speaker 16: buy the house and move in, are those drawers going

874
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Speaker 16: to be there? No, they're not in the chattels. They'll

875
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Speaker 16: be taken away. So why on earth are you looking

876
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Speaker 16: in the draws.

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Speaker 3: Photos on the walls. I was always told you any

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Speaker 3: personal photos, family photos take down. Do you still advise

879
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Speaker 3: you all clients to do that.

880
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Speaker 16: I'm sort of fifty to fifty on this one. What

881
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Speaker 16: I like to ask my clients is are you comfortable

882
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Speaker 16: having some family photos in the home, Because I really

883
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Speaker 16: feel that that makes a house a home if you

884
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Speaker 16: strip it of all its personality and warmth and memories,

885
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Speaker 16: sometimes you know, lose a bit. But it's up to

886
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Speaker 16: the clients, up to my vendors if they're comfortable as

887
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Speaker 16: long as it's you know, PG so to speak, you know,

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Speaker 16: so so you know, trying to leave them there, No

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Speaker 16: it scot that No, Jane, thank you, John, welcome, Thank

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Speaker 16: Kyli Great TV.

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Speaker 3: On the show Ray White real Estate Agent and Location

892
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Speaker 3: Location Location, New Zealand host. I went to an open

893
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Speaker 3: home once with a friend of mine who's big lefty,

894
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Speaker 3: and he it was he was going to with his

895
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Speaker 3: girlfriend by the house and it had a huge just

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Speaker 3: cinder adoun you know, they had the cartoon style Obama

897
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Speaker 3: style T shirts of just Cinda a doing that they

898
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Speaker 3: made and it had just Cinda's name at the top,

899
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Speaker 3: her face and then it was either adaha or love

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Speaker 3: or something at the bottom. And I sort of walked

901
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Speaker 3: on and went, o, god, that's a bit much. Even

902
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Speaker 3: he and he is, you know, left of the greens,

903
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Speaker 3: he thought it was too much. So I think you're

904
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Speaker 3: gonna be careful what you put on the walls when

905
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Speaker 3: you're trying to sell your house. As you're trying to appeal.

906
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Speaker 3: You need to be as boring and bland as possible

907
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Speaker 3: and appeal to the widest possible market, which could be

908
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Speaker 3: a raging right winger. It is twenty three minutes after

909
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Speaker 3: five these talks, heb.

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Speaker 1: After making the news, the newsmakers talk to Ryan first.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on Hither Duplicy Ellen Drive with One

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Let's get connected News.

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Speaker 3: Talks EDB five twenty six on News Talks, heb. We

914
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Speaker 3: keep hearing about how amazing chat, GPT and AI are

915
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Speaker 3: and yeah, sure they have their purposes, they have their functions,

916
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Speaker 3: and today they've announced that they're going to do a

917
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Speaker 3: whole bunch more with it. Like you can yell at

918
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Speaker 3: your phone book my holiday, you know in Fiji in September,

919
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Speaker 3: and here are the rough dates, and it'll give you

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Speaker 3: the best price, and it'll book your hotel. And it

921
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Speaker 3: pulls from your diary, it pulls from your email. It

922
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Speaker 3: gets all of the information from your phone and uses

923
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Speaker 3: that to make decisions almost on your behalf, at least

924
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Speaker 3: present the decisions to you. But we need to be

925
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Speaker 3: careful what information we put out there online. And case

926
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Speaker 3: in point, the data breach that we spoke about yesterday

927
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Speaker 3: out of the UK. It was bad enough then, remember

928
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Speaker 3: nineteen thousand Afghan names compromised in this data breach from

929
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Speaker 3: the British government. They worked help the Brits over twenty

930
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Speaker 3: years during the war in Afghanistan, applied to resettle and

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Speaker 3: their names get leaked by someone at the Department of Defense.

932
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Speaker 3: Names get out there. Now their lives are at risk

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Speaker 3: from the Taliban. Terrible story gets worse today. The names

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Speaker 3: that were leaked included not only Afghan nationals, but one

935
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Speaker 3: hundred British officials, including SAS members and six spies. Can

936
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Speaker 3: you imagine? And that was from one guy emailing a

937
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Speaker 3: list that he thought was one hundred and fifty people long.

938
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Speaker 3: Turns out it was more than twenty thousand. So just

939
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Speaker 3: be careful which buttons you pressed next time you get

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Speaker 3: on chat GPTA twenty seven after five news talks.

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Speaker 2: Hi, nice to meet you. Two nine maybe we coogle

942
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Speaker 2: dares get up.

943
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Speaker 1: A fuffy j said, this life.

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Speaker 2: Forever, so here to get there. Then let's be it

945
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Speaker 2: on with me.

946
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Speaker 3: We can dance.

947
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Speaker 2: We can dance on nine.

948
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Speaker 1: Moving the big stories of the day forward. It's Ryan

949
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Speaker 1: Bridge on hither do for see Allen drive with one

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Speaker 1: New Zealand. Let's get connected.

951
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Speaker 2: News Talks V.

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Speaker 17: Good thing.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty five away from six. Y're on news TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to an AB's injuries less than a second.

955
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Speaker 3: The list is growing, and thoughts on the players names

956
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Speaker 3: on the back of rugby jerseys. Our sports Panel joins

957
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Speaker 3: US Sports Huddle joins US. I should say, in a

958
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Speaker 3: few minutes time a couple of your texts because they're

959
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Speaker 3: quite good on open homes. We just spoke to Jane

960
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Speaker 3: Kylie from ray White and a study at well survey

961
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Speaker 3: at today that says a thousand people and basically loads

962
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Speaker 3: of us, most of us check in the wardrobes, check

963
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Speaker 3: in the cupboards and even in the drawers. She's not

964
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Speaker 3: buying Ryan, I opened cupboards, et cetera, to see how

965
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Speaker 3: much storage there is, how deep the wardrobe is and

966
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Speaker 3: if there is hidden damp or mold. Oh sure, that's

967
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Speaker 3: why you're doing it now. That's from Sandy. I believe Sandy.

968
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Speaker 3: I believe Sandy, but the number of people ants who

969
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: were texting in to say that because Jane Carly I

970
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Speaker 3: think she was joking when she said take down any

971
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: revealing or provocative photos of yourself from the boy I

972
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: was wonrering. How many people have that up on the

973
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: walls in the lounge? Apparently quite a few, Ryan. When

974
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Speaker 3: we bought our house at the open home we attended,

975
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 3: the photographer who owned the house had photos up of

976
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Speaker 3: his wife and her lingerie. I went to an open

977
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: home once and there was a reasonably acceptable, although nude

978
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Speaker 3: picture of the owners, and he worked in an office nearby.

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Speaker 3: Regards Richard Ryan, we have never agreed to own and

980
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: homes when selling. We insist on the agency working individually

981
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 3: with potential buyers on the back of a great marketing package,

982
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: says Jill. Jill, you sound rich. You've got to have

983
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: a nice house for individual open homes, don't you. It's

984
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: twenty three minutes away from six to Wellington. Now two

985
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: more candidates have ditched Rage Show's election ticket, Andrea Compton

986
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: and Dan Millward, both announcing last night that they will

987
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: stand for Counselors Independence rather than as part of Ray's

988
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: Independent Together group. Candidate Lily Brown already said she was

989
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 3: striking out on her own on Wednesday. Alistair Boyce is

990
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: from Better Wellington, which is the group behind Independent Together.

991
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: The ticket and he's with me now Alistair good evening.

992
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 18: Good evening.

993
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: Fair to say it's more independent than together.

994
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 19: At this point, we're all about independence. We're not too

995
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 19: worried about the guys striking out on their own. If

996
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 19: I've got a belief they can make it with their

997
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 19: own networks and their own campaign, then we're fully supportive

998
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 19: of that.

999
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 18: They're good candidates and they'll make good counselors.

1000
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: So they're good candidates. They've got good morals, they've got

1001
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 3: you know that you were all with them, and they're

1002
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: saying some of them that you know, in good conscience,

1003
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 3: can't continue with the association, the tactics, all that sort

1004
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 3: of stuff. I mean, that doesn't reflect well on the ticket,

1005
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 3: does it.

1006
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: Well.

1007
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 18: I think what they're saying is we did a fourteen

1008
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 18: a fourteen events road show on zero rates Increase, and

1009
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 18: by the end of it we were under so much

1010
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 18: intense media scrutiny and public scrutiny. We were getting up

1011
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 18: to two hundred at the end of the road shows,

1012
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 18: and we had political activists and hecklers and the media scrutiny.

1013
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 18: These guys aren't politicians. They are real people advocating real

1014
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 18: change and I think they found it very, very difficult

1015
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 18: in that environment. But what that environment has given them

1016
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 18: as a profile that they would never otherwise have.

1017
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: Do you think they regret the association with ray Chung?

1018
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 3: I mean, and let's not forget. Do you think the

1019
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 3: media attention's unjustified? I mean, when you've got when you've

1020
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 3: got a candidate who sent an email about the mayor

1021
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: with pendulous breaths and tempestuous sex. This is the outcome,

1022
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: isn't it.

1023
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 18: No, this is a job Ryan, you know our works

1024
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 18: and politics. Tory fan I admitted in the Post today

1025
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 18: that she's bided at a time and put it out

1026
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 18: in consultation with other political activists to damage ray Chung's campaign.

1027
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 18: The reality is Labor do their own internal polling, and

1028
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 18: ray Chung is way too close to Andrew Little and

1029
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 18: they'll do anything to knock him out of the race.

1030
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 3: All right, are you going to lose anyone else before

1031
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: election day?

1032
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 18: Well, if they feel as an independent that they can

1033
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 18: get there better without our umbrella and without our support

1034
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 18: and financial backing, then all power to them. We back

1035
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 18: all these candidates, whether they're with us directly or out

1036
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 18: on their own, because we're not a political party.

1037
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough. Are you aware of others that are

1038
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 3: thinking about or have already left.

1039
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 15: No.

1040
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 18: I think they're all very tight and strong now. They

1041
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 18: totally into it and up for the fight.

1042
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 3: All right, it's the hearty remainers. Alistair appreciate your time.

1043
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 3: Elisair from better Wellington. The group behind independent together, as

1044
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 3: I said, I think probably more independent than together at

1045
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 3: this point. That's six. The total now that I have left

1046
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: time now is twenty away from six.

1047
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Speaker 1: The Friday sports total with New Zealand South of East

1048
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: International Realty, the ones for un massed results.

1049
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 3: By the way, you had all blacks. You know, we're

1050
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 3: all preparing to play. So one one man, four down,

1051
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: another steps up.

1052
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 19: I got your storms back into the Mao Jon and

1053
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 19: how what big three minutes thirty one seconds.

1054
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 20: On Vinegor Thirty years of the Blues at Eden Park

1055
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 20: and it is their spiritual home. We are working with

1056
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 20: the Blues to ensure that they understand what we can deliver.

1057
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 3: It is time for the sports huddle on your Friday night.

1058
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 3: Adam Cooper all Sports Breakfast hosts seven to nine tomorrow

1059
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 3: here on News Talk, said b Adam Good at evening

1060
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: to you, Ron Good, to have you on and joining

1061
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: us also Abbie Wilson, One News Sports editor, Hey, Abby

1062
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 3: got ran great to have you guys here. So another

1063
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 3: big test tomorrow, not as important of course as the

1064
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 3: first two because we've won the series. But Adam, what

1065
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 3: do you make of well, the injuries and the summer

1066
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: saying b side that we've named Yeah, well, I mean.

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00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 21: I guess at the very start of this tour and

1068
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 21: heading into the rugby year, Ryan Scott Robertson, the coach,

1069
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 21: was very open about what he wanted out of this

1070
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Speaker 21: series and I guess, you know, leading into these three tests,

1071
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 21: he knew that the French side I didn't have a

1072
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 21: lot of their quality to the top fourteen players from

1073
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 21: their competitions back in France coming down on this trip,

1074
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 21: and he was very upfront saying, yep, by the end

1075
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 21: of this series, I want all the guys named in

1076
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 21: my squad to have had it run around. So I

1077
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Speaker 21: guess in some respects now that the series has wrapped up,

1078
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 21: it's been you know, a bit of a tight wind

1079
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 21: to start things off under the roof and dned it

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00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 21: a very comfortable win with some great plays, some good

1081
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 21: trick plays from the all Blacks last week and a

1082
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 21: good margin to wrap up the series of Wellington. So

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Speaker 21: why not give these guys a run? Who you know

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Speaker 21: within the All Black squads that the training week in,

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00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 21: week out, that they've been been part of the squad

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00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 21: since it you know, it was pulled into camps. I

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00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 21: have no issues with you know, some of these players

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00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 21: getting some minutes and and you know, keeping the options

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Speaker 21: open for selectors as to who is in your twenty

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Speaker 21: three for some of the big games coming up later

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Speaker 21: this year.

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Speaker 3: Abby, how big of a blow is it for us

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Speaker 3: to be losing Ricoux Yoanni at this point?

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Speaker 22: I think it shows that they're not taking any risks.

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Speaker 22: I mean, they really said he's being pulled out for

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00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 22: a tight hamstring, so what was you a serious thing?

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Speaker 22: But I think, as Adam says, they're looking further ahead,

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Speaker 22: they're looking for rugby Championship. You know, Boden Barrett probably

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00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 22: by all accounts, could be playing if it was a

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00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 22: bigger match, but he's also being rested, so I think

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Speaker 22: it gives a chance to do what Scott Robertson said

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Speaker 22: he'd do and play all those extra players. Also, we're

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Speaker 22: not bringing in heaps of you know, It's not all newses,

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00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 22: you know the likes of Tyrell Lomax, Antonine Brown, Jacobson.

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 22: These guys have plenty of experience. They're just coming back

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Speaker 22: from injuries or concussions, and so it's probably good for them.

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Speaker 22: They're a bit of a run around and it might

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Speaker 22: make things a bit more interesting for tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Might do too. I mean it's already quite interesting, but yes,

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Speaker 3: you coright, it might add a little bit of spice

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Speaker 3: to it. Now, this Rebel rugby competition, the Saudi back one,

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Speaker 3: do we think, Adam, it's going to likely to succeed?

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Speaker 3: We're seeing them do this with other sports. Is this

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Speaker 3: something we should worry about in terms of talent?

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Speaker 21: I mean I ended today, right, I think you know,

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Speaker 21: there's there's certainly money there. We know that was in

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Speaker 21: Saudi Arabia to back you know, new ventures like this,

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00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 21: and we were a couple of big names over and

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Speaker 21: I'm sure eventually, if it all sort of goes to

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Speaker 21: plan and they wrangle some players together, they will have

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Speaker 21: you know, squads of twenty three to take on each

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Speaker 21: other every weekend. But I do doubt that the caliber

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Speaker 21: of players will be you know, anything to write home

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Speaker 21: about and I can't see you know, the threat really

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Speaker 21: for you know, all Blacks to be heading off and

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Speaker 21: you know, cut short, cutting short their careers here in

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Speaker 21: New Zealand, given you know what the black jersey means

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Speaker 21: for so many people. As it stands, any All Black

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Speaker 21: right now could probably head to Japan in and a

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Speaker 21: lot more than what they're inning, you know, by playing

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Speaker 21: for the All Blacks, by playing super rugby. So I

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Speaker 21: don't think just by throwing money at these players it's

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Speaker 21: going to get people away from the All Blacks. Yes,

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Speaker 21: they might get a few marquee signings obviously Roger tu

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Speaker 21: vasishek or the end of his career could be a

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Speaker 21: good option for him, But that was probably you know,

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Speaker 21: some veterans, some well known faces. For me, is probably

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Speaker 21: the extent of that. The risk here that what it

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Speaker 21: would bring to rugby air in New.

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Speaker 3: Zealand just some very expensive seconds abby.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: I mean we've seen them live golf, you know, like

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00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 22: it's the black jersey means something. But sometimes the money

1144
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 22: that is being talked about it just a little bit more.

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Speaker 22: It's double triple what some guys are earning. I do

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Speaker 22: think that we won't see you know, your core. All

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Speaker 22: Blacks bey tempted, but maybe guys towards the end of

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Speaker 22: their careers, guys who have had some injury issues and

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00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 22: are maybe thinking I've got a year or two left

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00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 22: as yet, though we haven't had any. All Blacks go

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Speaker 22: on the record and talk about this. You know, Roger

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Speaker 22: making a convert back to Union, that's one thing, but

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Speaker 22: getting like a voting barrier or someone. I think that's

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00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 22: still a long way off for this league and to

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Speaker 22: sort of add their legitimacy.

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Speaker 3: Adam Cooper and Abbie Wilson on our spor hull for

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Speaker 3: your Friday Night. We'll be back in just a second.

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Speaker 1: Friday Sports Turtle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty unique

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Speaker 1: omes uniquely for you.

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Speaker 3: Adam Cooper and Abby Wilson on the Huddle tonight. Guys,

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Speaker 3: I saw the story this week about the Blues putting

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Speaker 3: out to their fans. You know, how would you feel

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Speaker 3: about us moving from Eden Park? You know, how would

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Speaker 3: you feel us making the move and going to Mount

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Speaker 3: Smart From just pure very little about it, but purely

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Speaker 3: from an optics point of view, I thought maybe this

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Speaker 3: was like a negotiating thing, more of a play from them, Abby,

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Speaker 3: what did you think.

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Speaker 22: Far off the likelihood of them actually leaving the sort

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Speaker 22: of spiritual home of Eden Parks seems very unlikely. I

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Speaker 22: think what's happening though, is they're also looking at Mount

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Speaker 22: Smart and they're looking at Aukland NEFTC, and they're looking

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Speaker 22: at the Warriors, and it's a lot easier to sell

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Speaker 22: out a twenty five thousand Dodds seats at stadium than

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Speaker 22: fifty thousand. It looks better on screen, makes more noise,

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Speaker 22: They're getting a better fan day experience, and so maybe

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Speaker 22: they are wanting to challenge Eden part to change things

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Speaker 22: a little bit and just sort of put their feelers

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Speaker 22: out there. But I would be really surprised if.

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Speaker 21: They most Adam, Yeah, I agree, I'd be very surprised

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Speaker 21: if they move. But I'm also very open to sporting

1182
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 21: franchises really looking at this scent. And yes, they might

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01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 21: be doing a bit of bit bargaining for their own bank.

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Speaker 18: Balances as well.

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Speaker 21: But I think the likes of the Warriors and awkwardesc

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Speaker 21: as that we mentioned have really put I think all

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Speaker 21: sporting clubs on notice as to how to deliver a

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Speaker 21: quality fan experience and make fans feel part of the club,

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Speaker 21: part of the family. And we're going to have this

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Speaker 21: new stadium in christ Church, j opening very soon, which

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Speaker 21: I think will be the forefront of sporting entertainment in

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Speaker 21: New Zealand. You're going to be under a roof, You're

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Speaker 21: going to be right there. It's a big size stadium.

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Speaker 21: And so I think you know, all franchises around New

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Speaker 21: Zealand to play in you know some big outdoor menus

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01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 21: that are relatively unfit for for a lot of purposes

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Speaker 21: at the moment. I look at Sky Stadium in Wellington

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Speaker 21: that you know that the Hurricanes get very small crowds.

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Speaker 21: The seats are far back from the field of viewing

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Speaker 21: experiences and amazing. So I think you know the fact

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Speaker 21: that franchises are openly looking at this and saying, hey,

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Speaker 21: just because we've played all our games here in the

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Speaker 21: past and it's our home and it has been our home,

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Speaker 21: it doesn't mean that's where we have to continue. So

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Speaker 21: I'm pretty open to franchises looking at their futures and

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01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 21: getting the best value for them and the best value

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Speaker 21: for fans.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting that the role that a stadium can play

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01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 3: in making or breaking a team and its success because

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Speaker 3: it's it is a lot of vibe stuff abbe, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not one to follow a team religiously,

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01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 3: but I am a bit of a bandwagon and when

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Speaker 3: there's a vibe, you know, very happy to go out

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Speaker 3: to mont Smart and what to worry his game.

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Speaker 22: It makes it more about the experience in the game.

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Speaker 22: And if you like the experience, then the results aren't

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Speaker 22: as important. And and so I do. I think it

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Speaker 22: makes it something that families want to go to, that

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01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 22: people want to go to with friends. Instead of going

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Speaker 22: to the pub to watch the game, they'll go to

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01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 22: the game itself. And I think, like Adam says, teams,

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01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 22: the teams that are doing it well are being rewarded

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Speaker 22: and the ones that aren't have a lot to learn.

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Speaker 3: Now, while we're on the Warriors, how they're going to

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Speaker 3: go to Rick and Adam against the Knights.

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Speaker 21: Well, I mean, on paper, even though the Warriors had

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Speaker 21: those injuries, Ryan, you'd like to think given the Knights

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01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 21: are having all sorts of issues at the moment. Obviously,

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Speaker 21: you know, Carlin Palmer has his future. I mean, the

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Speaker 21: coach is under fire. Thanks for the season they've had

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Speaker 21: so far, you'd like to think that the Warriors can

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Speaker 21: travel over there and get a pretty good win under

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Speaker 21: their belt, because even under strength last week, I thought

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Speaker 21: they showed some some pretty good signs of promise in

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Speaker 21: the wake of you know, the shocking injuries that I've had.

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Speaker 21: Obviously Luke metcalfs as injury though you know that the

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01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 21: few replacements such as Tannerboard that came in didn't do

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Speaker 21: too badly. So you'd like to think there's a win.

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01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 21: But I never put a prediction on the Warriors when

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01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 21: they travel away from home run heavy.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I'm the same, never say never, and usually what

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01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 22: I predict is wrong. But on paper, this should be straightforward,

1243
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Speaker 22: should be.

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Speaker 3: Should be all right? Fingers crossed Snoop Dogg is buying

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Speaker 3: a minority stake in Swansea. This is a Welsh or

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Speaker 3: so another Welsh association with football. What is up with celebrities,

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01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: American celebrities, Welsh teams, just sports teams in general.

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Speaker 21: Adam, Yeah, it's funny, isn't And I think you know,

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Speaker 21: it's kind of I think, and in many respects it's

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01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 21: a lot of these guys wanting to stay irrelevant and

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01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 21: stay getting attention and being at the forefront of things.

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Speaker 21: I mean, it's no new feat famous people and and

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01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 21: actors owning sports teams. I think, you know, just right

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Speaker 21: across the board, you sort of if you look at

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Speaker 21: all the American you know, NBA teams, NFL teams, if

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Speaker 21: you look at some of the ownership structures, you'll see

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Speaker 21: a lot of familiar names, you know, from across the

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 21: board there. So I think it's just you know, these

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Speaker 21: guys feeling what they want to create a bit of

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Speaker 21: publicity for themselves and be part of a bit of hype.

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Speaker 21: And you know, I've seen from the likes of rexim

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Speaker 21: from from other know, Netflix series and other entertainment options

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Speaker 21: that you know, sports entertainment is profitable if it's done right,

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01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 21: and it does deliver them and it gives them a

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Speaker 21: bit of publicity at the same time.

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Speaker 18: So yeah, I'm all for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Abby, if you could, if you like money was

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Speaker 3: no option, you could buy any franchise in the world,

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01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 3: which which one day, this is putting spot. What do

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Speaker 3: you think you go for?

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Speaker 22: Do you know how unrealistic that is? So I've never

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Speaker 22: even thought of it. I'd probably like an NBA team

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Speaker 22: just because I think having been able to sit courtside

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Speaker 22: at some of those playoffs. Yeah, just you know, you

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01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 22: are as close as you can get to the action.

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Speaker 22: I think these celebrities, though, I reckon they're using ownerships

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Speaker 22: not just to increase their relevance, but it does a

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01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 22: business prop. You know. If we've been welcome to Rexim,

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01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 22: Blake Lively drinks company has plastered all over their shirts,

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01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 22: so their football team promotes, their drinks team promotes, there's

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01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 22: something else, puts it on TV and it's just one

1282
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 22: big money making venture and the wheel goes around.

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Speaker 3: Sounds great, doesn't it. And someone's going to pay for

1284
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 3: someone's going to pay for her legal fees of course

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01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: against Justin Belbon next presumably that's on Wrexham. Guys, thanks

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01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 3: so much having with me Adam Cooper and Abby Wilson

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Speaker 3: for your Friday sports huddle. It's seven to six News

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Speaker 3: Talks EB.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupless Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: my Ard Radio powered by News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Four to six. It's frustrating flight Friday update for you.

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Speaker 3: There was a Quantus flight yesterday from Sydney to Queenstown

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Speaker 3: and QF one two three, which sounds simple. Enough. But

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Speaker 3: it was anything but. And you can just imagine it

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Speaker 3: packed with ossie skiers and you know everyone's chomping at

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Speaker 3: the bit. Had the slopes. Flight was delayed an hour

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Speaker 3: out of Sydney. Okay, fine, that's annoying but understandable. Then

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Speaker 3: pilot speeds like mark Lundy to get to Queenstown because

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Speaker 3: there's a curfew. Ten pm is the curfew in Queenstown.

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Speaker 3: For those have flown in there, you'll know that it's

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Speaker 3: their resource consent because they don't want noise complaints. Plane

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Speaker 3: arrives at one after ten. They are diverted to Wellington.

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Speaker 3: They land at ten thirty pm. They are still there

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Speaker 3: now in Wellington. Imagine coming all the way from Sydney.

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Speaker 3: So there I would have thought as a resort town

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Speaker 3: as well, you would extend. Come on, you want more

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Speaker 3: terrorists in there, don't you? Anyway? Coincidentally but unrelated, Dame

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Speaker 3: Terrace Walsh, chair of aerin Z's with us on China.

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Speaker 1: Next where Business meets Insight, The Business Hour with Ryan

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Speaker 1: Bridge and Mayor's Insurance and Investments, Grow your Wealth, Protect

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Speaker 1: Your Future News Talks.

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Speaker 3: MB Good Evening. It is seven after Stick to business

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Speaker 3: here on Newstalk ZB for your Friday evening we get

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Speaker 3: to Barry Soper and the week that was in politics.

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Speaker 3: Shortly also our Asia Business correspondent Peter lewis with us.

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Speaker 3: Interestingly we have had the Chinese ambassadors to New Zealand

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Speaker 3: speaking to business leaders in Auckland today. This is for

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Speaker 3: the eleventh China Business Summit. Comes amid the tariff stuff

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Speaker 3: out of the US, of course, but also as China's

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Speaker 3: economy evolves and changes, just a lesson that we need

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Speaker 3: to keep up with that. Dame Terrace Walsh was there,

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Speaker 3: business leader, a chair of in New Zealand of course,

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Speaker 3: was there and is with me now, good evening, Dame traceda.

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Speaker 3: So what happened at the summit? What did we learn?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 23: Well, we talked quite a lot about the recent delegation

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Speaker 23: that the Prime Minister led over to China and just

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Speaker 23: some of the learnings from that. So we were sort

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Speaker 23: of picking through that. We also heard from the Chinese

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Speaker 23: Ambassador to New Zealand just about some of kind of

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Speaker 23: the thinking about what's coming out from China at the moment.

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Speaker 23: And so yeah, we were just earning mode and sharing ideas.

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Speaker 3: Did Ambassador one give any insights into their feelings about

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Speaker 3: Trump and about tariffs.

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Speaker 23: He made a few comments, but look, I was focused

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Speaker 23: on the business side of things. He did make a

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Speaker 23: few comments, but he was very positive about the New

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Speaker 23: Zealand relationship. He was very positive about the delegation that

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Speaker 23: we have just taken over to Shanghai and Beijing. He

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Speaker 23: said it it had an enormous impact over there. So

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Speaker 23: we were of the kind of share perspectives on that.

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Speaker 6: And a whole lot of.

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Speaker 23: Things are changing in China, and so we talked about that.

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Speaker 23: He commented quite a lot on that too.

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Speaker 3: What changes.

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Speaker 23: So the demographics in China are changing. Basically, it's an

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Speaker 23: aging population. It's changing not so much into generational care

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Speaker 23: going on. You've got an aging population that want to

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Speaker 23: have fun or interested in health and nutrition. You've got

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Speaker 23: a younger population, more education, not getting married and having

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Speaker 23: children as much as they used to. So a whole

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Speaker 23: lot of changes there. We've also got these tier two

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Speaker 23: and Tier three cities outside of the usuals like Shanghai

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Speaker 23: and Beijing where the population is growing, and you know,

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Speaker 23: there are a number that are much larger than New

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Speaker 23: Zealand just as a city. And these are tier two

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Speaker 23: and three cities. So the markets that we can target

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Speaker 23: as a country are significant. But over there in China,

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Speaker 23: they're looking for our products in our normal kind of

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Speaker 23: sectors you know, dairy and horticulture and meat, et cetera, tourism, education,

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Speaker 23: but they're looking for something more going forward. They're looking

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Speaker 23: for us to be innovative, have more products that lean

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Speaker 23: into health and nutrition. Let me give you a number.

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Speaker 23: Every week, sixty seven thousand new products on Chinese shelves

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Speaker 23: and that's pretty amazing. Imagine competing with that. That's what

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Speaker 23: New Zealand's trying to do. So a lot of these

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Speaker 23: kinds of changes happening and more sc tier cities.

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Speaker 3: I know this is something the Prime and has have

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Speaker 3: talked about before, you know, wanting to unlock them. How

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Speaker 3: do you actually do that? Is that? Do you need?

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Speaker 3: You know, when the PM does as missions, do you

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Speaker 3: need to go to some of that, not just Beijing

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Speaker 3: and Shanghai.

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Speaker 23: Well, I mean ideally you would do the whole country,

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Speaker 23: but it would take a long time. So look, you know,

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Speaker 23: you do go to those main political hotspots in terms

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Speaker 23: of Beijing and Shanghai where you meet with leaders and things.

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Speaker 23: But actually I think from a business perspective, we get

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Speaker 23: a lot of interaction. What you learn and what we

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Speaker 23: did learn is that those Tier two and two Tier

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Speaker 23: three cities, you have to be really specific which city

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Speaker 23: are you going to go to, which market are you

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Speaker 23: going to enter, and if whatever one you pick, you

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Speaker 23: need to partner locally. You need to have people on

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Speaker 23: the ground, You need to partner locally, and you need

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Speaker 23: to move fast because these sixty seven thousand products a

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Speaker 23: week is a high product product turnover in China, and

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Speaker 23: so you need to be really nimble. And so we

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Speaker 23: need to be thinking like that. And so I think

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Speaker 23: it's just a question of your market strategies, right, But

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Speaker 23: there was a lot of sharing about how New Zealand

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Speaker 23: goes about that day to day in China and how

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Speaker 23: we need to refine. I think just one final thing

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Speaker 23: on that New Zealand. You know, we've got lots of

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Speaker 23: dairy producers and meat producers and tourism operators, et cetera.

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Speaker 23: We do compete with each other, but we need to

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Speaker 23: get to be a bit more team New Zealand in

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Speaker 23: China because it's so big and we are so small

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Speaker 23: that actually we can't afford.

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Speaker 3: To interesting Dave Trees, appreciate your analysis and your insights

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Speaker 3: this evening eleven minutes.

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Speaker 2: After six, Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: So that was from the China Business Summit which was

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01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 3: on eleventh of them on in Auckland today, and just

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01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 3: to give you an idea of what Dame Thees is

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Speaker 3: talking about. So obviously China is our number one trading

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Speaker 3: partner and two way traders worth thirty eight billion dollars,

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Speaker 3: massive compared to what it was pre FTA. But New

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Speaker 3: Zealand makes up zero point three percent of all China trade.

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Speaker 3: We're not even in their top forty, which will be

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Speaker 3: of no surprise to you. I'm sure the middle and

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Speaker 3: population there though is five hundred million. And it's our dairy,

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Speaker 3: it's our fruit, it's our meat, it's our seafood, it's

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Speaker 3: our food. As Dame Teresa was just explaining that they

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01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 3: are hot for and so if we need to band together,

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01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 3: I mean we are so small. If we need to

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01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 3: band together and be rather than a bunch of companies

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01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 3: coming at the Chinese, but as a country coming at

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01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 3: the Chinese to make it work, then that's probably something

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 3: we should look at. Barry Soper Politics.

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Speaker 3: Talk zb just gone quarter past six, coming up next

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Speaker 3: to the ki we who's made the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders.

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Speaker 3: It's fun, you know, they are famous. It's a great gig,

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Speaker 3: but also very bad for your body. We'll talk about

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Speaker 3: that in a second. Right now, let's wrap the political

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Speaker 3: week that was with Barry Sober. Barry, welcome back, thank you,

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Speaker 3: nice to talk to you again. Right, So, big week, Dave, Well,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't really a massive week, was it, But there

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01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 3: were a few high points low points. David c landing

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Speaker 3: himself in hot water again.

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Speaker 8: Well, absolutely, it's the first week back after recess and

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01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 8: I would have expected a few more fireworks around the place,

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Speaker 8: but it didn't really happen. This week was pretty low key.

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Speaker 8: The house was pretty low key as well. But look

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01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 8: David Seymour, David Seymour tends to jump the gun where

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Speaker 8: Winston Peters is the laid back. He was the deputy

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Speaker 8: Prime Minister, very laid back, and like I said earlier

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Speaker 8: this week, to watch David Seymour sitting next to Chris

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Speaker 8: Luxon and the house now and to watch. Compare that

1442
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Speaker 8: to Winston Peters when he was sitting there. Winston Peters

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Speaker 8: and David Seymour got on very well together. And despite

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Speaker 8: what some people may think, Winston has always got on

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Speaker 8: with the prime minister of the day that he served.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you go back to Jim Bolger, they got

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 8: on really well together. Jenny Shipley of course, didn't get

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01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 8: on with him at all, and he was gone. Look

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01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 8: at Helen Clark, she really really on Winston. Peter's a

1450
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 8: lot in the Foreign Ministry, did a great job there.

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Speaker 8: And now Chris Luxon, I've talked privately with Chris Luxon.

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Speaker 8: It's no longer private now because of course I'm saying

1453
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,919
Speaker 8: it on radio, But Chris Luckson really likes Winston Peters

1454
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 8: and you can learn a lot from him. This man's

1455
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 8: been around politics as long as I have. Dere I

1456
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 8: say it right, But yeah, well she did like him

1457
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 8: and rely on them. But yeah, it's interesting that here's

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Speaker 8: David Seymour and I happen to agree with everything he

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01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 8: said in the letter. I mean, when you've got an

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Speaker 8: amorphous body like the United Nations, I said to you

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01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 8: earlier this week one hundred and thirty thousand people worked

1462
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Speaker 8: for the United Nations. The size of the upper hut

1463
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Speaker 8: in the headquarters in UN thirty seven thousand people. And

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Speaker 8: you're going to ask what all these people do. The

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 8: United Nations will set up in nineteen forty eight to

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01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 8: stop another World War, We'll have actually done nothing. You know,

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Speaker 8: you look at Iraq, you look at so many other

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Speaker 8: places the United Nations would come out against. They've got

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Speaker 8: that ridiculous Security Council where you know they've got veto rights.

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Speaker 8: That's China and Russia. So whilst you've got that, there's

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Speaker 8: no point in anything going to the Security Council.

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Speaker 3: But so David Seymour right message, Yeah, well indeed wrong

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Speaker 3: and person delivering it.

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Speaker 8: That's what. And I'm sure Winston was annoyed because foreign

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01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 8: of his is his territory, it's not David Seymour's. But

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Speaker 8: I can also understand David Seymour being a bit hosed

1477
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Speaker 8: off about being told about New Zealand law and how

1478
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Speaker 8: it affected Maori by a guy sitting in Geneva. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that Winston gets some mileage out of

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Speaker 3: playing up David Seymours's inexperience, because he's mentioned that a

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01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 3: couple of times this week, subtly and not so suddenly.

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01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 3: But you know, I think there'll be a couple of

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Speaker 3: votes in that.

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Speaker 8: Well. The thing is that Winston, you know, because we

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Speaker 8: all know him and we either loathe them or love him,

1487
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 8: there's no doubt about that. But David Seymour is seen

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Speaker 8: and I think probably painted by Winston Peters a bit

1489
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 8: as being a spoilt bratt and he is seen as that.

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Speaker 8: Although you know, having said that, you've got to look

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Speaker 8: at some of the policies that act as being pursuing

1492
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 8: and say, well, you know, this guy is a very

1493
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Speaker 8: skillful politician. This is Seymour.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 8: It's some of the stuff he does. But Winston the

1496
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 8: old war horse, you know, he trudges on and really

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Speaker 8: can embarrass somebody like David.

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Speaker 3: S Thomack and maccoda. By election September sixth, You've got

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Speaker 3: this as a two horse race, which I'm unhappy to

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Speaker 3: see you discounting Hannah tommocky.

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Speaker 8: I was just going to say, Hannahtomack issues in there.

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01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 8: That's right now. It will be a two horse race,

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01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 8: of course, between Penny Henare and you're end Kupra. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 8: and you know, I see you've got to do a

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Speaker 8: bit of hot water over being too praiseworthy of her kids.

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Speaker 3: I can't vote in the election.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she's obviously a nice woman, if you say so, Ryan.

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Speaker 8: But you know, I think when you look at election

1509
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 8: night in that electric two votes were in it and

1510
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 8: then it grew to forty two after the specials were counted,

1511
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 8: and there was some question mark over that at the

1512
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 8: time and still being investigated in certain areas. But yeah,

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01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 8: I think Penny Hennarre may well go back there, and

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you what. Labor will be doing everything to

1515
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 8: ensure that that does happen. But don't forget they don't

1516
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 8: hold a ma Re seat at the.

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01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 3: Moment, No exactly. And yeah, it's going to be an

1518
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 3: interesting one, that one, because I think to party Maldi

1519
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 3: has got that ground game and if they will be

1520
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 3: about turnout, won't it if you can get them out

1521
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 3: to vote. The Barnyard classrooms thing this week, which the

1522
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 3: Erica Stamfords put the kaibosh.

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01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 8: On, Yeah, well, you and I had a bit of

1524
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 8: a laugh about this because you know, trying to control

1525
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 8: three teachers one hundred kids in a classroom absolutely absurd.

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Speaker 8: And I can't think what was in John Key's mind

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01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 8: when his government actually approved of this. No doubt the

1528
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 8: Education Ministry is in his mind. But you know it

1529
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 8: can never work when you're trying to control kids. And

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01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 8: I know controlling two kids at home is enough about

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01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 8: one hundred in a classroom with three teachers.

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Speaker 3: We spoke to the principle of Runyord after we spoke

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01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 3: very on what was it Thursday Wednesday? The principle of

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01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 3: Runjord of High School had six hundred kids in one space,

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01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 3: and he's gave the closest thing to an answer. I

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01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 3: reckon about why the Key government did it. It's cost

1537
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 3: Oh it's so much cheaper, of course, is yeah, of course?

1538
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 3: Oh well they're gone and New Zealand First popularity doing

1539
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 3: really well in the holes and Stuart National these rumors

1540
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 3: about him. What do you reckon?

1541
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I reckon almost certainly. I would say, as

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01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 8: I mentioned earlier to you today, Ryan, that Stuart Nash

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01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 8: I think certainly will have his name on the ballot

1544
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 8: paper at the next election. And even Winston Peters like

1545
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 8: you heard him earlier, Winston speaking very nicely about Stuart Nash,

1546
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 8: and Winston doesn't do that about a number of people,

1547
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 8: certainly labor MPs as Stuart Nash once was before he

1548
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 8: is sacked by Chris Hopkins. But look, I think Stuart

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01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 8: Nash would be a good fit for New Zealand First,

1550
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 8: or maybe even act. But New Zealand First looks as

1551
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 8: though it would be more attractive to this man who wants,

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01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 8: I think, to get back into politics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and wouldn't that be fascinating to see him as

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01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,520
Speaker 3: sitting around the cabinet table with the National MPs potentially

1555
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 3: after the next election. Yeah, Barry, thank you, nice to

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01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 3: talk to you. Right, Thanks Barry, that's very Soper, senior

1557
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 3: political correspondent here at News Talks, twenty two minutes after six.

1558
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 3: That was the week in politics. Next it's showbiz plus

1559
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 3: this new police retail crime unit having some really big

1560
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 3: wins early on. That's coming up.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Rich and Mass Insurance and investments,

1563
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: Grow your wealth, protect your future, can use dogs.

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01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 3: That'd be six twenty five. Scott Veson's sending a message

1565
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 3: to the markets on China tariffs. Peter Lewis, our Asia

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01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 3: Business correspondent on that after six thirty news, right now

1567
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Speaker 3: it's time for show biz. That's the cheering you can hear.

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01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 3: A key we born dancer has made the Dallas Cowboys

1569
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 3: cheerleaders for the first time. Twenty two year old Faith

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01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,719
Speaker 3: Ward born in Wellington, moved to Ossie age ten. She's

1571
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 3: one of six rookies on the team for this season.

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Speaker 3: Have you thinking why do I care about this? Why

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01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,799
Speaker 3: do I care about the Dallas Cowboys and the cheerleaders,

1574
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 3: particularly of the Dallas Cowboys. Well, clearly you haven't been

1575
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 3: watching their new Netflix show, which has been going gangbusters.

1576
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 3: Part of making the team is a big makeover.

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01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 24: Hi everyone, my name's Faith and I'm originally from Wellington,

1578
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 24: New Zealand living in Perth, Australia. As you can tell

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01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 24: by the accent, I think today they're gonna hopefully just

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01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 24: give me a bit of a freshen up, maybe a

1581
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 24: bit of a trim as well as in face framing.

1582
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 24: So I feel like my head's quite heavy at the

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Speaker 24: moment around my face while I'm dancing, So maybe out

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Speaker 24: of a trim.

1585
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 3: Who knows, we could be going brunette.

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Speaker 24: I have no idea, what to what to expect, but

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Speaker 24: I'm super excited.

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01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 3: She stayed blonde. For those who haven't seen the series,

1589
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 3: now the new fame comes with a price, and if

1590
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 3: you watch the show, this is not a pomo for

1591
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 3: the show, but it is quite interesting. Huge hole on

1592
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 3: the routines take on their bodies. They jump from the

1593
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 3: air land on the ground in splits, injured necks, backs hips.

1594
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 3: Surgery is not uncommon, so they certainly own their keep

1595
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 3: through the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. Peter Lewis after News twenty

1596
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 3: seven after.

1597
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: Six, crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan

1598
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,560
Speaker 1: Bridge with the business hour and mass insurance and investments.

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01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 2: Grow your wealth, protect your future. Use talks at me.

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Speaker 1: That is coming.

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01:22:53,760 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 3: Please don't go Paris getting twenty five away from seven

1602
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 3: on your Friday night. So the new police retail crime

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01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 3: unit they have managed to nab shoplifters linked to a

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01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 3: quarter of a million bucks worth of stuff stolen. This

1605
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 3: story actually sounds a little bit too good to be

1606
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 3: true for me, and I'll tell you why in a second.

1607
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,759
Speaker 3: But the rest Within hours of this new police crime

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01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 3: unit being set up, they're targeting retail crime and they're

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01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 3: specifically targeting your repeat offenders, your recidivus retail offenders, and

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01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 3: then holding them to account. So it's a tough new

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01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 3: crime fighting agency, right task force. And they come in

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01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 3: within hours have been set up. They've arrested a thirty

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01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 3: seven year old man. They've arrested a twenty eight year

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01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: old woman. She's facing nine counts for shoplifting. He's facing

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01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,759
Speaker 3: five counts of shoplifting together two hundred and fifty thousand

1616
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 3: dollars worth of stuff stolen. They allege. Both are remaining

1617
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Speaker 3: in custody until the further charges are being considered for them.

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01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 3: This is the tactical retail crime unit started on Monday.

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01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 3: So you look, it's good news, it's great news. Lock

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01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 3: them up, you know, if they're guilty, of course, but

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01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 3: calor me cinical. Did the team put this together in

1622
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 3: a matter of hours or did they have something ready

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01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,520
Speaker 3: to go? You know, did they have a little project

1624
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 3: on the side, and then as soon as they get

1625
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 3: into gear they announce something. I mean, who cares? Some

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01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 3: two people have been arrested for crimes that are two

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand dollars and let's not forget it's

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01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 3: US that pays that when we go into the store

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01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 3: and we buy stuff legally, we're paying the inflated price

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01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 3: for theft twenty three to seven Cranbridge. Right, the US

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01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 3: trying to trade deal. Everybody's wondering about the deadline. Of course,

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Speaker 3: in Scott Besson, the Trade sectory comes out and says,

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01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 3: actually the deadline not so important. The goalpost is a

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01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 3: moving feast, if you will. Peter Lewis is our Asia

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01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 3: business correspondent, Peter Good evening, Good evening, Ryan, So how's

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01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 3: that news being met.

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Speaker 25: So it's interesting because all the focus recently has been

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Speaker 25: on this August, the first deadline when these reciprocal tariffs

1639
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 25: on almost every country in the world comes into effect.

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Speaker 25: We've heard a lot about Donald Trump sending out these

1641
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 25: letters to around one hundred and fifty countries. But there

1642
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 25: was another deadline, and that was August the twelfth. You

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01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 25: remember back in April when really the relations between the

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01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 25: US and China fell apart, despite the two sides meeting

1645
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 25: in Geneva, they slapped tariffs on each other of one

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Speaker 25: hundred and forty five percent, which in effect brings trade

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Speaker 25: between the two countries to a halt. Well, they were

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Speaker 25: suspended for ninety days, and that ninety days is up

1649
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 25: on August the twelfth, But we haven't heard an awful

1650
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 25: lot about what happens after then, because unless a formal

1651
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 25: trade deal is put in place, they are supposed to

1652
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 25: tariffs are supposed to go back to that one hundred

1653
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 25: and forty five percent level. Now, Scott Besson is saying, really,

1654
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 25: don't worry, because we're working on it and things are

1655
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 25: going very very well between the US and China. Now

1656
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 25: we know that Donald Trump is really quite keen to

1657
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 25: announce some sort of deal with China, even if it's

1658
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 25: something small, it's not a whole agreement. And also he

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01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 25: wants to do a visit with Jijinping. He wants to

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Speaker 25: have a meeting with him. He has been very open

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Speaker 25: about it. I'm not so sure that Jen Ping is

1662
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 25: that keen about having a meeting with Donald Trump. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 25: a lot of what's going on seems to also be

1664
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 25: framed in terms of this upcoming meeting that Donald Trump

1665
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 25: says is going to come sometime this year. But we

1666
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 25: haven't really seen any specifics about a trade deal. We

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01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 25: have seen some easing of restrictions. The US has now

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01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 25: started giving export licenses again to Navidia, we learned this week,

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Speaker 25: so that it could sell its chip, its semiconductor chip

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Speaker 25: to China. This is a cut down version of some

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Speaker 25: of its most advanced chips specifically designed for the China market,

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Speaker 25: so that Navidia is not selling its most sophisticated technology

1673
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 25: to China. And some people in the administration are a

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Speaker 25: bit worried that Trump is sort of backsliding on the

1675
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 25: tough line he was taking on China by allowing these

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01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 25: export licenses to start a game, but he is keen

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01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 25: to try and get some sort of deal going. These

1678
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 25: chips have been a sort of negotiating ployee in those discussions,

1679
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 25: along with rare earths that China has put restrictions on

1680
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 25: to the US. So the deadline is coming up, and

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01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 25: we wait to see what gets announced before then.

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01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 3: What about Russia, because this week we had and we

1683
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 3: spoke to a correspondent in Europe this week about it.

1684
01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 3: But you know, Trump threatening secondary terrorists on any country

1685
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 3: that does trade with Russia, now that includes in in China,

1686
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 3: they would technically be hit by this. Is anyone actually

1687
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 3: taking that throat seriously so.

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01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 25: Far not And this is partly because Trump is sort

1689
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,959
Speaker 25: of blowing hot and cold on his relationship with Putin.

1690
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 25: He says he's very angry with Vladimir Putin and is

1691
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 25: threatened within ninety days these one hundred percent tariffs unless

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01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 25: there's a cease fire in Ukraine. Now, there's not a

1693
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 25: lot that foreign governments, foreign countries buy from Russia these

1694
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 25: days because of the sanctions. But what this means is

1695
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 25: that anyone who does business with Russia will then have

1696
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 25: to pay one hundred percent tariffs on their business with

1697
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Speaker 25: the US. Well, the main Russian business that goes on

1698
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,799
Speaker 25: in the world is oil, and it is still selling

1699
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 25: its oil. And the two main buyers of Russian oil

1700
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 25: these days are India and China. Now they've been treading

1701
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 25: a typrope for a while saying that, you know, whilst

1702
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 25: at the same time they don't support the war in Ukraine,

1703
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,799
Speaker 25: they feel they're free to buy oil on the global

1704
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 25: market and Russian oil. Both India and China have been

1705
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 25: very big buyers of Russian oil. The EU complains that

1706
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 25: this is in effect really been financing Russia's a war

1707
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 25: in Ukraine, and India in particular relies very very heavily

1708
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 25: on flows to India. It's about two point one million

1709
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 25: barrels a day, So if anything, India's purchases of oil

1710
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 25: is going up. We haven't heard at all what the

1711
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 25: two countries are going to do about that, and the

1712
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 25: old price hasn't really reacted to it either. You would

1713
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 25: expect that if Russia, if India and China couldn't buy

1714
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 25: crude oil from Russia, it would be forced to buy

1715
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 25: it from other opek and that would force the price

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Speaker 25: of oil higher. But we haven't really seen that reaction

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Speaker 25: so far in the markets, so people are sort of

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Speaker 25: taking this as another taco trade. What is known as

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01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 25: in the financial markets is Trump always chickens out that

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01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 25: when push comes to shove, he's going to have some

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Speaker 25: sort of reproch mom with Vladimir Putin and these sanctions

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Speaker 25: won't come into effect.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how was the Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albaneze He

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Speaker 3: was up in China this week. How was that seen

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Speaker 3: from the Chinese side?

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Speaker 25: Well, China has really had a bit of a turnaround

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Speaker 25: with relations with Australia. A couple of years ago they

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Speaker 25: were really under pressure Australia. China puts tariffs on exports

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Speaker 25: of beef and barley to China. Since then, China's realized

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01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 25: that it needs to have some friends in the region

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Speaker 25: if it wants to rebuild the global trading system, which

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Speaker 25: it's clearly trying to do. It's trying to build a

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Speaker 25: trading system that that no longer involves the US. A

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Speaker 25: big part of that is going to be nations in

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Speaker 25: the so called global self, the emerging market countries, but

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01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 25: also in needs allies in the Asia Pacific region, and

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01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:20,759
Speaker 25: Australia is an important ally. Trade between the two countries

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Speaker 25: are about two hundred billion dollars. It was very noticeable

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Speaker 25: that this trip both sides were keen not to focus

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Speaker 25: on politics, not to get involved in discussions on thorny issues,

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Speaker 25: and to try and keep the focus on trade and

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01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 25: anti Albanesi took a lot of executives with him from

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01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 25: leading miners like Rio, Tinto, BHP, some of the Australian banks,

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Speaker 25: So this was very much focused on developing export markets,

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Speaker 25: developing trade. As far as we understand, they didn't discuss

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01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 25: thorny issues like Taiwan and other things. There was a

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Speaker 25: small discussion about Chinese naval vehicle ships operating near Australian waters.

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Speaker 25: But apart from that, this was a meeting that was

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01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 25: very much focused on maybe the easier parts of their relationship.

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Speaker 3: Peter, fascinating stuff as always, Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondent

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Speaker 3: with us tonight. Thanks so much of your time. Just

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01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 3: gone sixteen minutes away from seven here on news Talks. Here'b.

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Speaker 3: We're going to get to our UK correspondent Gavin Gray next,

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01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 3: because they have made the decision. This is the British

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01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 3: government to lower the voting age to sixteen and that's

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01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 3: for all elections, so this would be right across the UK.

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01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 3: Now they already had it in places like Scotland, but

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01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 3: it'd be right across the UK. It'll be sixteen, and

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01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 3: it's for all elections, including the general election, and it'll

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01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 3: be in time for the next one, which should be

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01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:47,759
Speaker 3: great for the Labor Party. How do the British public

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01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 3: feel about it? Because it was to be fear to

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01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 3: Labor one of their policy platforms, so people kind of

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01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 3: knew what they were getting in for. But now that

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01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 3: it's actually here and coming, what's the mood like. We'll

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01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 3: check in with Gavin Gray next, whether.

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Speaker 1: It's Man microbe or just plain economics. It's all on

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01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 1: the business hours with Ryan Bridge. Can players insurance and

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Speaker 1: investments grow your wealth, protect your future?

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Speaker 3: These dogs Right away from seven, we're just talking about

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01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 3: the police retail crime unit and how they've nabbed these

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01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 3: two individuals, one man one woman, who they allege stole

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01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 3: quite a lot of stuff. And this textas is run,

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01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 3: why are people stealing food? Have you considered why to

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01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 3: feed a family? Maybe cost of living et cetera, et cetera,

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01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 3: et cetera, Which is all fine, except that they stole

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01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 3: two hundred alleged to have stolen two hundred and fifty

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01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 3: thousand dollars worth of stuff. You can't steal that much food.

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01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 3: Surely you can't eat that much food. I don't think

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01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 3: it's the cost of living thing. I think it's a

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01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 3: greed thing in this case. It's twelve minutes away from

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01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 3: seven and Gavin Gray's with us A UK correspondent. Gavin

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01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,560
Speaker 3: that we've spoken about this leak and it's affected Afghan nationals.

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01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 3: Now we're finding out more about Brits that were on

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01:33:58,840 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 3: the list that will leak.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, it isn't just those Afghans who had wanted to

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01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 17: try to get to the UK having helped British forces

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01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 17: during the Afghan War. It now materializes that the data leak,

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01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 17: which dates back now to February twenty twenty two, but

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01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 17: was not openly reported until last week it actually went

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01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:24,639
Speaker 17: or a year before it was discovered, is all coming

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01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 17: home to horn. I'm afraid because now more than one

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01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 17: hundred British officials, including members of the SAS, the Special

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01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 17: Forces and the Security Services six were included in the

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01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 17: data breach. In other words, some of the addresses and

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01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 17: names some of Britain's most protected secure people were leaked

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01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 17: on this as well. And we're discovering in fact that

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01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 17: the person who put it on Facebook actually said to

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Speaker 17: the government and if you don't give me passage to

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Speaker 17: the UK, then I'm going to leak more next week,

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01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 17: which is why they had to act. And that person

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01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 17: who had been denied entry to the UK was then

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01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 17: permitted entry to the UK from Afghanistan. So one might

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01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 17: say bit of blackmail involved in that in some respects.

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01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 17: But look, we still don't know who did the leak,

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01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 17: We still don't know who put it on Facebook, and

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01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:18,759
Speaker 17: the situation seems to be getting worse for the government

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01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 17: not better, but how somebody could just send a spreadsheet

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01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 17: that they's thought contained, you know, one hundred lines of

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01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 17: data and actually was thousands of lines of data and

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01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 17: one of the biggest data breach is going to cost

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01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 17: the UK and estimated two billion New Zealand dollars. Well,

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01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,919
Speaker 17: I think that shows perhaps the lack of oversight measures

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Speaker 17: in the Ministry of Defense.

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Speaker 3: It certainly does. Hey, what's the reaction being like, because

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01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 3: we've been reporting on it loads over here, lowering the

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01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 3: voting age to sixteen and seventeen year olds and the

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01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 3: well sort of all across the UK, including England. Now,

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01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 3: what's the reaction being like from the public.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, a mixed reaction, and I think some thinking, well,

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01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 17: it's a good idea. They're youngsters. Why shouldn't they be

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01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 17: allowed to take part in the vote with a mind

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01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 17: of their own. They are old enough to get a job,

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01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 17: they're old enough to join the army, and they're certainly

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01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 17: old enough to pay taxes. The irony is that they

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01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 17: can't at that age get married, they can't drink alcohol,

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01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 17: and they can't stand as a member of parliament. So

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01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 17: now we're giving people the chance to vote even though

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01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 17: they couldn't actually vote for themselves as it were, they

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01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 17: can't stand themselves, and others are pointing to the fact

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01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,560
Speaker 17: that it is perceived that many young people tend to

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01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 17: vote left center, so this will obviously improve the chances

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01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 17: of the Greens, dare I say it, but also of

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01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:45,799
Speaker 17: a couple of other parties, including principally the Labor Party,

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01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 17: our current party of governments. So some are saying this

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01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 17: is a move by Secure Starma, the Prime Minister, to

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01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 17: try to secure Labor in Parliament more often, and also

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01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 17: just wondering about you know, do people really are they

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01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 17: that bother are they're interested in politics at the age

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Speaker 17: of sixteen and therefore should they really be voting? And

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01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 17: others are saying, yeah, absolutely, they are young adults and

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01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 17: they should be entitled to So a real mix of

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01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 17: feelings about this, but it does seem to be going

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01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 17: to come in if the government gets their way in

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01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 17: time for the next general election.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Kevin, Thanks for that, Kevin Gray, our UK correspondent.

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Speaker 3: It is eight away from seven News Talks MP.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Too for See allan Drive full show

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01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk ZIBB.

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Speaker 3: News talk ZIBB five to seven. There's a Chinese swimmer

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01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 3: absolutely cranking it in the two hundred meter butterfly, making

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01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 3: waves in the pool, making headlines in the news. She's

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01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:44,759
Speaker 3: qualified for World Champs in Singapore two hundred meter butterfly

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01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 3: amongst the fastest in the world. Her time at the

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01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 3: Chinese Nationals means that she would have had she been there,

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01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 3: she would have narrowly missed out on an Olympic medal

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01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 3: in Paris for the two hundred meter butterfly. Why is

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01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 3: this interesting? She's twelve, started swimming at well no started

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01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 3: training at the age of six, probably started swimming straight

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01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 3: out of the womb. I would imagine she goes to

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01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 3: a swim club in her Bay province in China. This

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01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 3: club is no and renowned for its butterfly and also

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01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 3: it's medley. Her times are faster than some are Macintosh. Now,

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01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,719
Speaker 3: some of Macintosh is the Canadian who at the same

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01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 3: age was swimming slower. She's won three gold medals last

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01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 3: year at the Paris Olympics. Some of Macintosh was slower

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01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 3: at the same age than our Chinese twelve year old.

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01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 3: Her name is u Zidi, so look out for her.

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Speaker 3: It is a young sport, but twelve is exceptional to

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01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 3: be going that quick in the water four minutes away

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Speaker 3: from seven. That is it for me. For the last

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Speaker 3: two weeks. I've very much enjoyed being with you on

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01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 3: drive Heather. We'll be back with you. You'll be pleased to

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01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 3: know Heather is back with you on Monday, which means

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01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 3: the Hosk is back in his seat from Monday morning.

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Speaker 3: And I will be back with you from five am

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Speaker 3: on Monday, and I look forward to seeing you then.

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01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 3: And we're going out to some Fat Freddy's tonight.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 26: It's not nice to have to do two sad ones

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01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 26: in a row, to be honest, but yeah, that's just

1883
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 26: how it's happening. Unfortunately, Chris Fayumu, who was one of

1884
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 26: the founders of Fat Freddy's Drop when they was just

1885
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 26: a bunch of people from different bands all jamming together

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01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,480
Speaker 26: in Wellington in nineteen ninety nine, he has died unexpectedly.

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01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 26: He was also known as MoU or DJ Fitchey. He

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01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 26: was one of the co writers in a lot of

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01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 26: the songs and one of the founders and I think

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Speaker 26: one of the turntablists as well.

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Speaker 3: All Right, enjoyed this for your Friday evening, and I'll

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Speaker 3: see you Monday morning, bright and early. Have a great weekend.

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