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Speaker 1: In the bradi a UK correspondence with us in the.

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Speaker 2: Hello, hey Hea, They're great to speak to you again.

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Speaker 1: Now, what do you make of this UK Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: ruling on women.

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Speaker 2: It's huge for anyone who hasn't seen this. The headline

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Speaker 2: in the Daily Telegraph here today spells it out very bluntly.

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Speaker 2: Trans women are not women. That is the upshot of

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Speaker 2: this ruling. It's the highest court in the land. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the debate has been going on for years, if not

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Speaker 2: decades at this stage, but we now have it in law.

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Speaker 2: So this case was brought ultimately by a very gender

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Speaker 2: critical feminist group called four Women Scotland. They took it

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Speaker 2: against the government. It's ended up all the way to

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court and five judges have studied all the

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Speaker 2: arguments and they say that you were a woman based

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Speaker 2: on what you were born with your biological sex. So

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Speaker 2: trans women are not women. Now, away from the whole

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Speaker 2: kind of debate and society and the media, this will

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Speaker 2: have very significant impact for organizations across the country, from

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Speaker 2: businesses to sporting organizations, shared office space, bathrooms. It's very

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Speaker 2: very significant.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it will actually impect shade spaces and bathrooms, Like,

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Speaker 1: is it actually going to go into that.

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Speaker 2: I think this is just maybe the first kilometer of

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Speaker 2: a marathon. But by the time this law ruling shakes down,

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Speaker 2: I think every business and every organization in the UK

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Speaker 2: will absolutely have to abide by this because if they don't,

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Speaker 2: they will then find themselves in court and there will

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Speaker 2: be people citing this ruling as the basis of their argument.

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Speaker 1: Interesting Trendstabad has really swung quite heavily from one extreme

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Speaker 1: to the other in recent years, hasn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't that long ago where this kind of conversation

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Speaker 1: will be a big no no and quite taboo, and

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Speaker 1: it's now swung very much in favor of cisgendered women here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, it's it's a huge debate, it's very volatile

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Speaker 2: at times, and certainly keep away from social media on it.

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Speaker 2: You can see all the people who are weighing in.

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Speaker 2: But look my own personal take, Heather, it's a short life.

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Speaker 1: Just try and be happy, yeah, try and be kind

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Speaker 1: as well. Okay, listen, So I see the Ministry of

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Speaker 1: Defenses bend all the Chinese made vehicles. What's the problem spying?

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Speaker 2: They're worried about espionage, and you just wonder. You know,

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Speaker 2: we're well into twenty twenty five now. These Chinese vehicles

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Speaker 2: and vehicles with Chinese components have been in the UK

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Speaker 2: for a long time, and military staff and personnel have

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Speaker 2: been driving them the same as any other citizen for

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Speaker 2: a long time, and we only find out today that

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Speaker 2: they've just recently banned them from mod sites. One particular

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Speaker 2: site is so sensitive people having Chinese vehicles have been

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Speaker 2: told to park two miles away. So the feeling is that,

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Speaker 2: you know, they're they're tracking military personnel's movements. What else

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Speaker 2: is in these vehicles? You know it's from page News

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Speaker 2: here today. But my only question is why has it

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Speaker 2: taken so long? We found out the weekend China's game

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Speaker 2: plan with British steel was to run it into the ground.

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Speaker 2: You know, all this Chinese investment we're seeing I think

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Speaker 2: belatedly people in London and Westminster starting to realize China

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Speaker 2: may not meet our friends after all.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, very very interesting. Hey, thanks very much and I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Into Brady A Happy East to you

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