1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: An insight into how we handle emergency management better now. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: For years in this country, every time it's asked to strike, 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: so the artworkings tend to indicate that a lot of 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: people didn't do their job, or communication could have been better, 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Anyway, a new plan today. The Emergency 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Management Minister is, of course Mark Mitchell, who was with 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: us good morning, Good morning, Mike. The broad claim and 8 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: we've seen this for years that when something happens in 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: an emergency status, we clean it up and then we 10 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: find out we didn't do a very good job. What 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: changes now? 12 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Yes, so that is true, and it hasn't always been 13 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: a lot of movement in terms of the recommendations have 14 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: come through. Although that's not entirely for you. There has 15 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: been some change, but you know, we are fully committed. 16 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: We realize and recognize that we're a country that's going 17 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: to be continued to be hit with these weather events. 18 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: We carry the risk of a tsunami or an earthquake. 19 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: We've seen three of those the last couple of weeks, 20 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: and so we've motivated to make sure that we strengthen 21 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: our resilience and our ability to be able to respond. 22 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: To those So what does this mean? More money, more resource, 23 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: better people, what. 24 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: All of those things? More training, more professionalism and the sector. 25 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: But I have to say that it always feels a 26 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 2: bit unfear when I sort of say that, because having 27 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: been around the country and having had six local states 28 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: emergency and a couple of them across regions, we've already 29 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: got outstanding people doing a job. We just got to 30 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: make sure that we better support them with proper legislation 31 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: that recognizes everyone's role throughout society in terms of how 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: we respond to these emergencies. More training and investment into systems. 33 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: See I wonder, and you'll argue back about this, but 34 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: you're a nice guy. You go into the regions and 35 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: you meet fellow nice people, and they're all nice people. 36 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: But it's all Dad's army. And then that is the problem. 37 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Is that fair or unfair? 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: No, that's not fair. That's very outstanding. And the results 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: speak to themselves, is that there's been outstanding results. I mean, 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: in all fairness, after the lessons Leart, after Gabriel last year, 41 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: before we came into government, it was already responding, the 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: sector was already responding. And no, I just see extremely 43 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: professional people first responders, volunteers that always stand up, that's 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: well coordinated. That there's definitely they've taken lessons learned already. 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: The Port Hills fires was a clessic example when you 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: had a suboptimal response at twenty seventeen and then you 47 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: fast forward to the Port Fills fires that we had 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: this year. The fire ground, the management deal was outstanding. 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: The police are doing their job, the cedium controllers for 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: the communication with the communities that they that they serve. 51 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: It was chalk and cheese, all right, So what about 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: the what I think it's why right? Correct me if 53 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. The river Mouth situation where a lot of 54 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: the locals were very angry, they said, look, we know this, 55 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: We've told you, no one did anything about it. How 56 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: much of that is there? 57 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: So that was down to the fact that the regional council, 58 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: I should have done some more wage around how that 59 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: was dealt with. The Rivermouth was dealt with the district, 60 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 2: the wire district council themselves. We needed a controller there. 61 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: All of their team outstanding response, just like when they 62 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: got with Gabriel. They've got good leadership there, a very 63 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: good team there. All the first responders are out. You 64 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: know when I founed wire straight after Gabriel, they were 65 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: running things out of the local Maria in North Flyde. 66 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: So the communities will respond of course. With WIRA, we 67 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: put a we put a Crown Manager and every quipment. 68 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: We've got Lawrence Yule and they're making sure that he 69 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: works between the WIRA Council, District Council and the regional 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: Council to facilitate and speed up the recovery and the 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: mitigation work that needs to be done. 72 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: But you go in here now with what a high 73 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: level of confidence that we're not going to have the 74 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: sort of response we've had previously or not. 75 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have a high level of confidence in 76 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: our people at the moment around the country, without a doubt. 77 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,559 Speaker 2: All the means of sharing leadership, the ces, our controllers, 78 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: all of our CDM teams, first responders, community groups, you know. 79 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: But what we have to do is we have to 80 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: be ready for a really big event across region to 81 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: make sure that we can respond to that as well. 82 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: All right, good on you, Mark Mitchell, the Emergency Management Minister. 83 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: I reckon it's a top down thing. I think people 84 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: have just been looking for a little bit of leadership 85 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: marks their man and that's why you've seen the improvement 86 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: you have of like. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 87 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: listen live to News Talks at B from six am weekdays, 88 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio