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Speaker 1: Doing the business out of Australia. That's Wednesday Morning Care

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Speaker 1: and Gilbert Morning to you morning mate. Now, the Prime

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Speaker 1: Minister drafting the legislation you thinks sixteen or thereabouts, and

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Speaker 1: you're going to ban every Australian kid from being on

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Speaker 1: social media. How many people could you line up right here,

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Speaker 1: right now that believe that that's actually going to be

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Speaker 1: a workable thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that said that one of the questions. But I

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Speaker 2: think what we're seeing, Mike is a groundswell of support

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Speaker 2: from families and parents. Now, it technically might be an issue,

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Speaker 2: but I think what the argument is from those like

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Speaker 2: Peter malanowskis the South Australian Premiere, is that this is

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Speaker 2: going to empower parents that once you get one, two

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Speaker 2: three a group saying okay, your kids, I'm sorry you

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Speaker 2: can't have social media for this age, and then gradually

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Speaker 2: it shifts the community discourse as well. So you've got

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Speaker 2: the technical question. Yes, some kids get around it, like

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Speaker 2: they do with smoking or drinking alcohol, but it doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean you shouldn't have the benchmark or the rule.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what's the timeline on this? Whens it get

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Speaker 1: up and passed? Well?

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Speaker 2: They're going to legislate by the end of this year,

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Speaker 2: and there's bipartisan support to do it. It looks like

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Speaker 2: it probably will come in at the age of sixteen.

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Speaker 2: And quite frankly, there are various other questions that need

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Speaker 2: to be answered. As you said, what's the age verification,

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Speaker 2: how are they going to do it, facial technology or what.

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Speaker 2: But either way, this is going to happen, and it's

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Speaker 2: going to happen. Legislation to be introduced to Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: promised by the end of the year, and with both

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Speaker 2: sides of the major parties agreeing anyway, it's hard to

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Speaker 2: see why it won't be delivered.

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Speaker 1: And do we have the detail on the legislation. In

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Speaker 1: other words, if they settle on sixteen, if you're fifteen

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Speaker 1: years old, you will not be legally allowed to be

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Speaker 1: on TikTok or Facebook or Snapchat or anywhere.

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Speaker 2: We haven't seen the legislation yet they're still doing They've

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Speaker 2: actually just kicked off the process for an age verification trial,

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Speaker 2: so over the next month or so it is all

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Speaker 2: being done very quickly. There are legal questions as well.

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Speaker 2: There are a number of states in the US that

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Speaker 2: have tried it they're in the courts, big Tech taking

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Speaker 2: them on. But with an election coming up, Mike, I

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Speaker 2: don't think this is a problem politically. I think the

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Speaker 2: government's more than happy to have a fight with big tech.

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Speaker 1: And having said that, does that in any way, shape

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Speaker 1: or form, or will it duvetail in with the ongoing

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Speaker 1: conversations you're having with big tech over them taking content

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Speaker 1: and then putting it online and they might like to

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Speaker 1: pay a little bit of money for that, or are

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Speaker 1: these completely separate subjects, in other words, the relationship between

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Speaker 1: big tech and the government.

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Speaker 2: They're they're meant to be separate, but I'm sure they

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Speaker 2: will dovetail, and who knows, maybe there's something where they

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Speaker 2: can compromise on one and get some get them to

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Speaker 2: bend on the other. But I haven't heard any suggestion

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Speaker 2: that Big Tech's will to go back and start paying

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Speaker 2: for the news that they use. And to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I think there is a view that they take the

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Speaker 2: mickey Mike. They're basically it's not like the Wild West

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Speaker 2: that they're not treated like publishers. They don't have the

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Speaker 2: same rules in terms of defamation. They make money on

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Speaker 2: advertising that they don't even see. They just throw it up,

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Speaker 2: throw it up online. So I think there's a view

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Speaker 2: in the community as well that enough's enough and it's

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Speaker 2: time to start raining them in.

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Speaker 1: All right, there we got agecre reform. How long has

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Speaker 1: this been in the offing?

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Speaker 2: Oh? For years? In fact, we had a Royal Commission

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Speaker 2: over two years ago now which said they needed to

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Speaker 2: be urgent action, urgent action. Two and a bit years later,

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Speaker 2: we've seen no deal done and I'm not convinced there

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Speaker 2: will be a compromise. Basically, our age care sector with

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Speaker 2: a growing aging population, the demographic is shifting. There needs

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Speaker 2: to be reform. But as I said, we've got an

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Speaker 2: election coming up. The government's got a five hundred page bill.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not sure the Coalition and the opposition will

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Speaker 2: give them a win here, as much as we desperately

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Speaker 2: need it.

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Speaker 1: And then we got the details and interesting eclectic old

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Speaker 1: I mean, at least you get them, the King and

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Speaker 1: the Queen, we don't get them. They dropped our part

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Speaker 1: of the league off before they head off to Samoa.

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Speaker 1: They're going the usual things, but the barbecue is interesting.

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Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, that's right. The barbecue meeting community leaders,

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Speaker 2: those that volunteer and pioneers in cancer research and so on.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it looks like they're going to pack it

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Speaker 2: in in two days. Disappointing they're not visiting your beautiful

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Speaker 2: part of the world. It's one of my favorite places

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Speaker 2: to come and holiday where I'll be in December again

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Speaker 2: this year. But anyway, I think the King's missing a

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Speaker 2: trick there. But here's the two days Canberra and Sydney's

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Speaker 2: is on their schedule.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Hey, listen normally on in the afternoon on Sky

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Speaker 1: when this debate's on. Is it going to do you?

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Speaker 1: You're carrying it live today? What would your assessment be

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Speaker 1: of the interest by the average Australian in the one

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Speaker 1: debate and to the race in America?

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Speaker 2: It's huge and definitely in parliament Parliament sitting this week,

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Speaker 2: we're running it in full. We've got analysis off the

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Speaker 2: back of it as well, and I just think it's

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Speaker 2: got everyone I'm talking to in the Australian Parliament is

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Speaker 2: super engaged because it affects us all whoever wins in

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Speaker 2: that first week of November in the presidential race, that

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Speaker 2: this is going to have huge implications for our region

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: Mate, Exactly, good to see you mate, we'll catch up Friday.

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Speaker 1: Apreciated very much. Kieran Gilbert, who is the chief news

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Speaker 1: anchor at Sky News. The details of King and the

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Speaker 1: Queen six days in Australia sixteenth to Australia for Charles trip.

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Speaker 1: That is three days of events in Sydney and Canberra.

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Speaker 1: They'll arrive Friday, October eighteenth, fly out the following Wednesday

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Speaker 1: where they head to the Chogga Meeting in Samoa, first

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Speaker 1: by Reigning Monarch. Who's visit by Reigning Monarch since was

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Speaker 1: there in Brisbane and Melbourne back in twenty eleven. Barbecue

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Speaker 1: with every day Australians. I mean, what on earth does

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Speaker 1: that mean? And really do you think you would round

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Speaker 1: up your average every day Australian and put them in

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Speaker 1: front of a barbecue and the King I think not.

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Speaker 1: The layer wreath at the Australian War Memorial, visit the

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Speaker 1: Australian Botanic Gardens. They'll visit the CSIRO where the scientists

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Speaker 1: are working on dealing with the impact of bush fars

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Speaker 1: in Australia. They'll conduct a fleet review of the Royal

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Speaker 1: Australian Navy. So that's the itinerary that's been released. This Morning.

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