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Speaker 2: Today the orders. The General has a look at our

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Speaker 2: education system has found some very large gaps. We've got

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Speaker 2: any numbers around the forest Frey farmland scrap Australia, as

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Speaker 2: it turns out, might not be as splash as you think.

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Speaker 2: The Cross the Tasman for work Craig Parker remember him

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Speaker 2: shortly spread Sparta, this Lord of the Rings Fame. He's

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Speaker 2: back in the country for a word. Joe mckennon's and rhyme.

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Speaker 2: Rod Liddle checks in from the uk Oscar Thursday morning,

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Speaker 2: seven past six. This week in Russia, if you're not

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Speaker 2: aware of it, in the city of Kazan, the group

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Speaker 2: is meeting, or a group is meeting. They're known as Bricks.

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Speaker 2: It started out Bricks Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa,

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Speaker 2: but they have since added Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran and the UAE,

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Speaker 2: so they're growing and ahead of the meeting, Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 2: announced that it is this group that will be driving

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Speaker 2: global economic growth, not the rest of the world i e.

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Speaker 1: US.

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Speaker 2: And when you look at the rest of the world,

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Speaker 2: the Europeans, who whether you look at them individually or collectively,

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Speaker 2: barely scrape above zero percent in terms of growth at

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Speaker 2: the moment. All the Americans much better off than most,

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Speaker 2: of course, but still not in the league of the Chinese.

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Speaker 2: And yes you can argue the Chinese aren't what they were,

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Speaker 2: but at about five percent, they outperformed the bulk of

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Speaker 2: the planet's other countries. Ethiopia has been growing at over

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Speaker 2: seven percent, and India, of course in many respects as

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Speaker 2: the growth powerhouse of the world. And at the same time,

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Speaker 2: just this week, the IMF has worn the world about

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Speaker 2: a lack of growth because of the increasing amount of debt.

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Speaker 2: There would be more growth if the money we were

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Speaker 2: spending on interest payments was put into facilities and services

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Speaker 2: and infrastructure. And then you get to the fracturing of

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Speaker 2: the world generally. They also pointed out that the IMF

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Speaker 2: that there was an increasing amount of looking inwards. The

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Speaker 2: days of the free and open trade flowing with anyone

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Speaker 2: and everyone was getting harder and harder, and not to

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Speaker 2: mention more and more rare we currently have a scrap

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Speaker 2: of coursism. I'm sure you're well aware with Canada over Derry,

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Speaker 2: and that's a scrap with a country we like and

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Speaker 2: get on with, and we did a free trade deal

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Speaker 2: with and it's a pick aside sort of game these days.

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Speaker 2: But the truth is Putin's actually right. I mean, say

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Speaker 2: whatever you want about them or Russia or the war,

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Speaker 2: the cold, hard truth is trade and business continues. In fact,

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Speaker 2: war is often very good for business. India seem more

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Speaker 2: than happy to buy discounted oil from Russia. India does

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Speaker 2: business with whoever has the best deal. Bricks might once

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Speaker 2: have been seen as the old balls club, the outsiders club,

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Speaker 2: the despots club, the desperadoes club, forced together by global

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Speaker 2: shame and the shunning of the so called mainstream countries.

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Speaker 2: And yet look at them now, Look at their numbers,

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Speaker 2: look at their prospects, look at the fact that Putin

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Speaker 2: is right.

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Speaker 1: Why news of the World in ninety second.

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Speaker 2: Noveland, Turkey of a night, We've got a major defense

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Speaker 2: company has been hit by terrorists.

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Speaker 3: We know that there are fifteen thousand people working in

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Speaker 3: tool shifts, and the timing coincides with each shift change

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Speaker 3: of the personnel of the campus not sure.

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Speaker 4: Who Both the two people, the two gunmen that were

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Speaker 4: seeing seem to have been killed. The problem is that

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Speaker 4: is you can't then interrogate them and find out who

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Speaker 4: sent them. So the key thing here is who quote Bono,

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Speaker 4: who benefits from this.

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Speaker 2: To the US race where the Trump camping complaining officially

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Speaker 2: about the UK Labor Party and volunteers helping out the Dems,

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Speaker 2: and how that adds up to interference.

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Speaker 1: With two weeks before an election.

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Speaker 2: Any story like this that is a distraction from the

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Speaker 2: substance of issues being debated from the candidates actually plays

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Speaker 2: to Donald Trump's benefit and against Kamaala Harris also troubling

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Speaker 2: the Dams as Joe who got let out yesterday to

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Speaker 2: say stuff they may regret.

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Speaker 5: This sounds bizarre. It sounds like I said this five

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Speaker 5: years ago.

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Speaker 6: You'd locked me up.

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Speaker 7: We gottack him up, political acum, lock him out.

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Speaker 2: That's what we have to do, which then leads to

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Speaker 2: can Lean again trying to defend him while pretending she

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Speaker 2: hasn't been hanging out with him for years.

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden is an extremely accomplished, experienced and capable in

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Speaker 6: every way that anyone would want for their president.

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Speaker 2: Fantastically convincing, isn't she? And in the UK the Chris

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Speaker 2: cowb fallout continues. Sees the gangster the police shot did

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Speaker 8: The police officers who act with integrity and bravery to

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Speaker 8: keep us safe each day need to know they have

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Speaker 8: public safety is.

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Speaker 2: Put at risk. Finally, the Attorney baseball that broke the

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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty record has been sold fifty as none

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Speaker 2: run for the season fiftieth stolen base No one had

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Speaker 2: ever done it until shahe Hair Daney of the Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles Dodgers did it the other day. They put the

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Speaker 2: ball up for auction seven zero point three to one

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Speaker 2: million dollars. If you place to shatter the previous record,

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Speaker 2: that is news of the world in madn The record,

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Speaker 2: by the way, the previous record was Mark McGuire and

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Speaker 2: I couldn't work out this morning because it didn't have

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Speaker 2: time to look up. The previous ball was four point six,

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Speaker 2: so seven point whatever it was versus four point six

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Speaker 2: was Mark McGuire. The steroids guy. It was Arry Bonds

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Speaker 2: and Martin. Wow, you can't say that Barry Bonds.

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Speaker 9: Wasn't the steroids guy.

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Speaker 2: I think I think Mark McGuire was involved in a

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Speaker 2: bit of that. Anyway, all was expensive. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: I'd be you know how Boeing are having trouble making

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Speaker 2: planes at the moment. They do have a division that

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Speaker 2: makes satellites, and they make a thing called the IS

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Speaker 2: total loss of communications with Intel Sat designed and built

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Speaker 2: in the Asia Pacific region, things haven't been going well

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Speaker 2: for you overnight. So planes, satellites, things, you know. Fifteen

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Speaker 2: Morning more Coca cola. We I've read that report that

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Speaker 11: So the demand slugglishipit prices up. There was the story.

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Speaker 11: Half of that comes from intense inflation places like Argentina,

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Speaker 11: the outlock grow for ten percent. Expected doings to pick

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Speaker 11: E coli outbreak of McDonald's and that's actually their biggest

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Speaker 11: reshrunk customer, so your quarter pounders might be on hold

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Speaker 11: for a while. There's contaminated onions by the sounds of it. Starbucks,

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Speaker 11: they also had some softness at the top line. Sales

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Speaker 11: foot traffic down TEMC. They've got a new CEO, Mike

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Speaker 11: he reckons all the problems are fixable than investing in

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Speaker 11: Pretty ironic striking machine. It's so about to be given

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Speaker 2: Now, Tokyo Metro, how oversubscribed?

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Speaker 11: They're not seeing any green shoots yet in the economy.

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Speaker 11: recurring theme here, Mike. But Australia we get thirty five

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Speaker 11: And then we have a look at Fletcher Building. Obviously

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Speaker 11: that said its fair hear of troubles this year. You

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Speaker 11: think the typical downturn, the pipe issue in Australia. They

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Speaker 11: see first quarter market volumes down ten to fifteen percent.

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Speaker 11: cost savings aroundbout one hundred and eighty million, So that

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Speaker 11: she has slipped Ebos, Healthcare and animal can name. They

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Speaker 11: read earnings guide, so that was positive.

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Speaker 2: Talksb new polling out of the States in a moment

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Speaker 2: blatant to foreign interference. This is the connection between the

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Speaker 2: this ongoing and I find fascinating debate between foresting the

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Speaker 2: From oud Democracy Watch. Things are not going well in Garner.

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Speaker 2: The Speaker of the Parliament suspended proceedings and definitely are

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Speaker 9: Is this the result? You've got to go back and

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Speaker 2: Exactly twenty three minutes away on seven speaking of democracy,

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Speaker 2: new numbers on our deforestation and where the more trees

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Speaker 2: of course beef and lamb chair. Kate Acklin's with us

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Speaker 2: on this Kate, morning to you morning mate. Of all

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Speaker 15: Well, look, it's usually concerning as he said, twenty one

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Speaker 2: for it. What do I do, knowing it's going to

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Speaker 15: Look, and that is absolutely the challenge. And I think

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Speaker 15: we're not anti trees. Were Actually there is absolutely a

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Speaker 15: So it's just about making sure we get the policy

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Speaker 2: Mcclay's in charge, but he says they're still working through it.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe they're working through it in a way

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Speaker 2: that will conclude in a way that makes you happy

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Speaker 15: Well, their pre election manifesto did set out what was

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Speaker 2: It was always going to come to this though, when

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Speaker 15: It is the easy option, but I guess the question

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Speaker 10: No, we do not.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any indication when the government are going

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Speaker 2: Christmas is close, so let's stand by for it. Kate appreciated.

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Speaker 2: Kate Acklam. Who's the beef in the land? New Zealand

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Speaker 2: to say to you twenty nine percent. But here's the

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Speaker 2: problem with people who are of the far right in

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Speaker 2: friendly with Russia. Although a lot of people in the

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Speaker 2: country you vote for them, doesn't mean anyone else wants

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Speaker 2: to work with them. So as a result of this,

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Speaker 2: no one wants to work with them. Therefore they can't

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Speaker 2: be part of the government. The parliament. The parliamentary election,

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Speaker 2: says the president is not a race in which the

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Speaker 2: party crosses the finish line first, automatically getting to form

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Speaker 2: the government. If a party wants to govern alone, it

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Speaker 2: must clear the fifty percent hurdle. It's not sufficient to

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Speaker 2: reach ten, twenty or thirty. And so that's Austria six forty.

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Speaker 16: Five International correspondence with ends in eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 16: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Never join a Kenna, Good morning to you, good money.

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Speaker 2: May and Maloney did win the election, and she's per

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Speaker 2: turned out. I think I'm fair to say to be

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Speaker 2: pretty popular, hasn't she.

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Speaker 17: It's pretty amazing actually to see a prime minister last

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Speaker 17: two years in this country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: But she has.

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Speaker 17: Celebrated that anniversary. She's released a video telling everyone how

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Speaker 17: wonderful she is and how successful she's been. She's put

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Speaker 17: Italy back on the international stage. She says she's relaunched

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Speaker 17: economic growth and employment, improved families, purchasing powers, save the

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Speaker 17: health system. I'm not sure everyone agrees with that. In fact,

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Speaker 17: a Sky Italy poll today said sixty percent of those

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Speaker 17: surveyed were not convinced about the government's economic measures.

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Speaker 2: She held an election this afternoon, would she win.

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Speaker 17: I think she would. Her personal popularity is still at

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Speaker 17: thirty four percent the opposition I think is failing to

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Speaker 17: make any sort of inroads. Most people think she's done

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Speaker 17: quite well on the international stage and defended Italy's interests

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Speaker 17: the economy mixed bag.

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Speaker 2: I'd say, okay, and then, while speaking international, the Albanian thing,

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Speaker 2: where are we at with that and what are they

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Speaker 2: going to do?

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Speaker 18: Well?

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Speaker 17: This was actually very harmful, in fact, quite embarrassing for

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Speaker 17: Georgia Maloney. Last week, a Rome court said ruled that

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Speaker 17: Italy's plans to start moving illegal migrants and asylum seekers

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Speaker 17: to two migrant centers constructed in Albania was unacceptable. The

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Speaker 17: government has overridden that with a decree saying that they're

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Speaker 17: there are nineteen countries that are safe for migrants to

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Speaker 17: be repatriated. And Maloney's going to press on through with

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Speaker 17: plans to send these asylum seekers to Albania.

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Speaker 2: And so can she do that given the courts or not?

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Speaker 17: It looks like she can unless it goes to a

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Speaker 17: High court appeal of some kind, or it goes to

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Speaker 17: the European Court of Justice.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of courts, where are we at with the

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Speaker 2: surrogacy thing?

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Speaker 17: Well, this is quite an interesting move. You'd think that

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Speaker 17: the government would be more concerned about the economy and

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Speaker 17: some of those bread and butter issues. But the government

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Speaker 17: has pressed ahead with very strong legislation extending its ban

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Speaker 17: on sarrogacy outside Italy that's been in place since two

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Speaker 17: thousand and four. Now Italians seeking sarrogacy in countries like

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Speaker 17: the US or Canada so they could be gay couples

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Speaker 17: or heterosexual couples can face up to two years in

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Speaker 17: jail in Italy up to one million euros in fines.

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Speaker 17: They do not want to see surrogacy happening in this country.

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Speaker 2: I forgot to ask the other day. We won the

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Speaker 2: America's Cup again just this past weekend, and Luna Rossa

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Speaker 2: didn't make it. How big a deal was Luna Rossa

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Speaker 2: at the time when they looked like they could go

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Speaker 2: through all the way to face US and the capitalies,

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Speaker 2: that sort of faded into obscurity.

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Speaker 17: Look, I have to say it didn't really capture national attention,

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Speaker 17: and I think it might have if they'd gone all

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Speaker 17: the way. But unlike New Zealand or Australia or even

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Speaker 17: in the US, where it did make waves when the

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Speaker 17: national teams, when it does make waves when the national

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Speaker 17: teams are doing well. I think here the focus is

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Speaker 17: still football, football, football.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good catch up next week. Joe, appreciate you so much.

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Speaker 2: Joe mckinner out Italy the Thursday morning for US eleven

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Speaker 2: away from seven called the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Costing Breakfast with the range Roper the La news talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd been You could have read on the economy yesterday

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Economy substantial and certainly they're not a

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent lockdown on it. But here's where they think,

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Speaker 2: arbo Bank, this is speaking of the rural sector. Rabobank,

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to have a cash rate at

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Speaker 2: three point twenty five percent. That's what they see is

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Speaker 2: what they call a neutral position. So they see another

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Speaker 2: fifty coming next month, and next month there's only days away.

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Speaker 2: That'll take us down to four point two five. Speed

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Speaker 2: of transmission of monetary policy is going to be faster

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Speaker 2: than it was at the start of the tightening cycle.

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Speaker 2: There's an unusually large share their words, not mine, of

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Speaker 2: mortgages currently in that variable slash short term fixed rate.

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Speaker 2: In other words, a lot of people are going to

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Speaker 2: benefit from lower interest rates more quickly. So the full

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Speaker 2: effect of those rate cuts are going to fly through.

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Speaker 2: There's some argument, they say, for the seventy five percent

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Speaker 2: that Greg has been arguing very strongly for. So maybe

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Speaker 2: seventy five percent. I doubt it, but there's a call

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Speaker 2: for it, and there's certainly an argument for it. We

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Speaker 2: see the pace of cuts slowing from February next year,

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Speaker 2: with twenty five points delivered at consecutive meetings in feb April,

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Speaker 2: May and July. Middle of next year, Ye're suddenly finding

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Speaker 2: yourself at three point two five sent shouldy mortgages in

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Speaker 2: the force, he said optimistically. Nikola Willis is giving a

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Speaker 2: speech today in which she will explain outcome contracts to

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Speaker 2: the public service. She doesn't need to explain that to

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Speaker 2: the rest of us, because of course that's generally how

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Speaker 2: contracts are supposed to work, but not in the public service. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: in the public service, contracts work on outputs. So in

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Speaker 2: other words, if you output something, if you just do

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Speaker 2: something that apparently is enough. What then happens to the

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Speaker 2: money in the contract apparently is not overly important. So

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Speaker 2: she's talking about outcome contracts. They will need to steal

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Speaker 2: themselves to acts initiatives that are no longer working for

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Speaker 2: delivering value. She is also the Social Investment Minister. Users

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Speaker 2: and providers of social services. This is where cost is going.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be your social services are a common

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Speaker 2: complaint is that there's multiple overlapping contracts that they have

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Speaker 2: with different agencies to do the same thing. Who do

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Speaker 2: not seem to be talking to each other, so no

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Speaker 2: one talks to each other. They don't care what happens

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Speaker 2: to the outcome because they don't do outcomes. They only

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Speaker 2: do outputs. And you wonder why we are where we are.

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Speaker 2: Seems an extraordinary thing that in twenty twenty four a

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Speaker 2: finance minister, in the circumstances in which we find ourselves,

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Speaker 2: should have to make such a speech. But there go

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Speaker 2: five away from seven, all.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs. It's the fears with business.

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Speaker 1: Fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Which is somewhat ironic because when we had a government

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Speaker 2: that actually knew what they were doing, one of the

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Speaker 2: ideas they came up with was a thing called fiber.

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Speaker 2: This is twenty eleven. In twenty eleven we announced ultra

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Speaker 2: fast broadband and we were went whoo. It took ten years,

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Speaker 2: cost us one point seventy nine billion to get it

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Speaker 2: up and running. Overall, five point five billion has been

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Speaker 2: spent on the fiber network to date. So he comes

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Speaker 2: to return, this is the fresh material this morning. Before

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Speaker 2: the rollout, there were twelve percent of us who had

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Speaker 2: access to fib and out to eighty seven percent of us.

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Speaker 2: That's over one point eight million connections. There were ten

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Speaker 2: thousand fiber customers to day, this one point four million.

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Speaker 2: Now what's it done for productivity? Those outputs, those outcomes.

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Speaker 2: The report from Deloyd shows that the infrastructure has already

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Speaker 2: delivered thirty one billion dollars of economic benefit and productivity gains.

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Speaker 2: It grew the economy by eight point eight billion in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three alone. There's also going to be a

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Speaker 2: massive productivity uplift over the next decade. The report says

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Speaker 2: it could add a cumulative one hundred and sixty three

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Speaker 2: billion dollars to our GDP by twenty thirty three. And

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Speaker 2: that's just from tapping into the only sixteen percent of

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Speaker 2: the productivity benefits the fiber network can in fact offer us.

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Speaker 2: So you're going back to a bloke called Stephen Joyce.

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Speaker 2: And if you read Stephen Joyce, he was the man

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Speaker 2: who was rolling out the fiber and if you read

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Speaker 2: Stephen Joyce's book, he seems to credit Marris Williamson. Stephen

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Speaker 2: Joyce was the Minister of Communications and Information Technology, but

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Speaker 2: he credits Morris Williamson as the man is said to

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Speaker 2: tell you what's Stephen, have a look at this father

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Speaker 2: thing and you can probably do some good for the country.

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Speaker 2: So that's how you improve productivity, which brings us back

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Speaker 2: to the banks.

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Speaker 10: Yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I'm increasingly a fan of Antonia Watson of the A

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Speaker 2: and Z. I felt sort not sorry, that's the wrong word,

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Speaker 2: but she had a hard day in front of a

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Speaker 2: select committee. The government's made up their mind on banks

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Speaker 2: in this country, and I think in the fullness of

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Speaker 2: I think in totality, I'll probably sided with the government.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, banks have got a lot to answer

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Speaker 2: for in the way they behave in this country and

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Speaker 2: the profits, etc. But she fronted up. They're all going

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Speaker 2: to have to front up. She was first cab off

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Speaker 2: the rank. The return on equity is thirteen point one percent.

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Speaker 2: She says that's reasonable, fair and reasonable. There is much

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Speaker 2: debate around that. There is also much debate about how

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Speaker 2: the banks deal with the rural community in this country.

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Speaker 2: The government has decided banks need a good old ry

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Speaker 2: cup and kick up that. You know Watt's so she

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Speaker 2: defended her corner and good honor. She was the one

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Speaker 2: who brought up the capital gains tax. They raised that

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Speaker 2: with her yesterday. There's more where that came from. But

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Speaker 2: it's got a fate to complee feel about it. The

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Speaker 2: government's made up their mind. They're going to do what

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Speaker 2: they're going to do now eric Is stanf But as

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Speaker 2: it turns out, lucky we got her on the program

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Speaker 2: because there's a bunch of stuff we need to cover off.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show You can trust the mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with our Veda Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News TOG said, it's.

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Speaker 2: Only seven past seven. So the Order to General has

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Speaker 2: been looking into our education systems, specifically inequality, basically why

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Speaker 2: some kids do well at school and others don't. The

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Speaker 2: educational gaps between rich and poor students are among the

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Speaker 2: largest in the world. Apparently the Education Minister Erica Stanford's

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Speaker 2: with us very good morning to you, Good morning make

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Speaker 2: is does the report make sense? Is there something to

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Speaker 2: act on here or not?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 19: Absolutely, and the report is just another report telling us

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Speaker 19: the same thing that we've known for a really long time.

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Speaker 19: It crystallizes lots of data points. It talks about what

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Speaker 19: Erro's been saying for ages about not having consistent nationwide

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Speaker 19: picture of student achievement and progress. It talks about a

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Speaker 19: lack of data evidence and anything that we're doing, you know,

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Speaker 19: basically says all of the things that we've known for

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Speaker 19: a long time that no one's been able to tackle.

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Speaker 19: But luckily all of the recommendations basically some of my

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Speaker 19: six point action plan. So that's that's been one good

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Speaker 19: thing about it.

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Speaker 2: The reason I asked the question is he also says

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Speaker 2: the general line that our students perform well similarly to

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Speaker 2: or better than other OECD countries. Now we've been led

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Speaker 2: to believe we're useless, are we or not.

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Speaker 19: The problem that we've got in New Zealand is that

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Speaker 19: our top kids are amongst the top of the world,

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Speaker 19: but we have an enormous, yawning gap between those kids

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Speaker 19: and the kids at the bottom, and it is the

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Speaker 19: worst in the world, and it's not getting any better.

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Speaker 19: The richer getting richer and the poorer getting poorer in

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Speaker 19: education in this country, and until we have a clear curriculum,

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Speaker 19: until we have consistent measures of assessing them, until we're

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Speaker 19: using evidence based teaching methods, until we're investing in our

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Speaker 19: amazing teachers, until we've got learning support sorted that the

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Speaker 19: right child's getting the right support at the right time,

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Speaker 19: and until we use a much better until we use

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Speaker 19: best data better, nothing will change. But we already know

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Speaker 19: that in order to change a close that equity gap,

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Speaker 19: if you do those things well, then you will make

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Speaker 19: a real difference because we've already seen it. And that's

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Speaker 19: why those six things I just mentioned form the basis

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Speaker 19: of our action plans.

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Speaker 2: Is it the kid? Is it the kid's family? Is

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Speaker 2: it the kid's school? Is it the neighborhood, is the

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Speaker 2: decile system or is it all?

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Speaker 19: I've been very clear about the drivers of inequality, and

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Speaker 19: it is poverty. In this country. Your means determine your destiny.

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Speaker 19: It is almost the one single factor that is the

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Speaker 19: cause of that yawning gap, which is why when you

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Speaker 19: turn up to school, we need to cloak you in

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Speaker 19: that protective factor that is education, and that it doesn't

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Speaker 19: matter where you go, which school you go to, it's consistent,

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Speaker 19: a consistent, clear knowledge, rich year by year curriculum that's

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Speaker 19: comparable with the rest of the world. That's a teaching

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Speaker 19: practice like structured literacy, structured maths is the same everywhere

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Speaker 19: you go that we assess you everywhere you go to

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Speaker 19: measure your progress from year zero right up to year thirteen,

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Speaker 19: which we don't currently do, which we're about to do

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Speaker 19: with our twice yearly consistent testing that we're bringing in.

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Speaker 19: Those are the things that will change the dial. And

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Speaker 19: the last six years, the only thing we had, the

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Speaker 19: only thing we had to measure programs across the zero

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Speaker 19: zero to ten with national standards. Now, whether you agree

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Speaker 19: with it or not, and it had some problems, it

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Speaker 19: was the only thing. Labor took it away when they

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Speaker 19: came into office and what did they replace it with,

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Speaker 19: Mike nothing correct, absolutely nothing. And this report says we'll

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Speaker 19: need to have that clear, consistent picture across the country

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Speaker 19: so we can make changes.

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Speaker 2: While I've got you put your immigration hat on. The

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Speaker 2: overturning of the ban on partners. Why do we ban partners?

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Speaker 2: This never made any sense to me. If you want

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Speaker 2: to come to the country, sure, you want to bring

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Speaker 2: your partner, don't you? Otherwise, why would you come to

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Speaker 2: the country.

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Speaker 20: Look again, it sort.

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Speaker 19: Of labour's good intentions but not really understanding the reality.

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Speaker 19: I can broadly see what they were trying to do.

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Speaker 19: They were trying to say, well, actually, we want to

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Speaker 19: make sure when you come here that you know you

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Speaker 19: are protected and that you are earning a good amount

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Speaker 19: of money. But the flip side was that people just

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Speaker 19: weren't able to do that. They were coming in the

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Speaker 19: country partners, they weren't able to earn the media and age,

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Speaker 19: they weren't able to work for a credit of work,

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Speaker 19: and so they sat here on a visit of visa.

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Speaker 19: And we know that because we had an massive number

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Speaker 19: of increased number of visit of easas over the last

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Speaker 19: couple of years, and that put enormous pressure on families

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Speaker 19: with only one income. And if you want people to

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Speaker 19: assimilate into society and make friends and take that pressure

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Speaker 19: of families, you have to allow them to work. So

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Speaker 19: bringing back open work rights for partners so they can

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Speaker 19: move between jobs work for anyone they liked was just

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Speaker 19: a no brainer.

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Speaker 2: Makes sense. Put on a third hat, your survivors in

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Speaker 2: care are you reading the newsroom stuff as in the

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Speaker 2: newsroom website stuff, Yes, they're calling it a cover up,

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Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 19: I think that the Royal Commission report made it very

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Speaker 19: clear that the state for many decades took great steps

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Speaker 19: to not provide documents, to obscate, to cover up, to

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Speaker 19: try and slow things down when things were taken to court.

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Speaker 19: I mean, that's clear in the report, black and white,

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Speaker 19: and there are people that have apologized for that. So

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Speaker 19: the Philoso, the General has apologized, and she's also talked

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Speaker 19: to me about the failings of Crown Law and the

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Speaker 19: failings of the state, and there will be more apologies

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Speaker 19: to come.

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Speaker 2: And yet the irony is the article suggests that she

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Speaker 2: needs to go as in the Solicitor General. Would you

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Speaker 2: argue she was merely doing her job as the representative

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Speaker 2: of the government and was doing it particularly well, despite

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Speaker 2: the fact that morally you may look at that and go, well,

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Speaker 2: the lawyer, the lawyer, Well, she.

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Speaker 19: Has she has made comments that Crown Law did not

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Speaker 19: meet expectations, they did not have a survivor focus, and

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Speaker 19: that they did not meet the expectations of the public.

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Speaker 19: But any questions about her role are for Minister Collins.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate time very much. Erica Stanford on a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff, So it was lucky we had

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Speaker 2: her on this morning, thirteen minutes past seven. Here's room stuff.

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Speaker 2: If you're not sure what I'm referring to, I'll come

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Speaker 2: back to it later because it's very interesting. Meantime, other matters,

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Speaker 2: good news St. John and the workers. They've settled their

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Speaker 2: pay dispute. The government's going to be injecting in up

751
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Speaker 2: twenty one million into the charity, brings the total funding

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Speaker 2: perannum to three point fifty seven million. We had some

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Speaker 2: industrial action that ended last week. Members voted in favor

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Speaker 2: of the latest settlement officer offer and now the first

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Speaker 2: union National Organizer for Emergency Services famer CAN is with us. Fay,

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Speaker 2: good morning to.

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Speaker 1: You, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Well what number did you get? What did it end

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Speaker 2: up with? Pay rise wise?

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Speaker 21: So staff got most of the staff got a three

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Speaker 21: point two five percent pay increase. Dumb staff who were

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Speaker 21: paid below the living wage ended up getting just over

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Speaker 21: a nine percent increase, and that's to bump them up

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Speaker 21: to the living wage.

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Speaker 2: Does that make you happier? Are you going to be

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Speaker 2: going around again?

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Speaker 21: It's definitely a band aid, folks. I mean, any more

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Speaker 21: funding that goes into the ambulance Services. Obviously a win

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Speaker 21: in terms of the settlement we're going to be embarking

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Speaker 21: and next year. It still hasn't really fixed the problems

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Speaker 21: that we were concerned about, but certainly it's alleviated some

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Speaker 21: of the financial burden that people are finding themselves.

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Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong. This seems to be in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand first lead type. They've always been keen on

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Speaker 2: funding the ambulance service in a better way than it

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Speaker 2: has been previously. Are we getting close to it basically

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Speaker 2: being a government department like the emergency services generally?

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Speaker 21: I think that we're still actually quite far away from that.

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Speaker 21: I think some of it is the fact that Saint

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Speaker 21: John wasn't saying they wanted to be fully funded until

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Speaker 21: very recently, so that obviously makes it a bit difficult

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Speaker 21: from our member's perspective. Absolutely they want it to be

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Speaker 21: government led. I think there's a lot of questions around

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Speaker 21: how it's run in general, and actually it makes it

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Speaker 21: very difficult with them being a charity to find out

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Speaker 21: that information and that's not what it should be for

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Speaker 21: an ambulance service.

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Speaker 2: Do we need to change all that?

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Speaker 15: I believe.

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Speaker 21: So we've also got Wellington Free who's also a charity

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Speaker 21: that they haven't had any announcements for their funding. But

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Speaker 21: the assumption would be that if you've put a band

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Speaker 21: aid on one, I'm surely you need to put a

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Speaker 21: band aid on the other.

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Speaker 2: Well, said Faie, appreciated famer Can, who's with the First

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Speaker 2: Union fifteen minutes past seven, tasking news room as in

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Speaker 2: the website's been doing so very good work on this

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Speaker 2: state care thing. There are calls for the Solicitor General

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Speaker 2: to stand down, to resign because of her role in

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Speaker 2: some of the court cases, her track record and how

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Speaker 2: she has made it very clear in all of their

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Speaker 2: legal technicalities and assault on children that were abused legally,

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Speaker 2: she has fought vigorously and aggressively to have us go away.

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Speaker 2: Now the problem is she's merely doing a job, and

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Speaker 2: that's what lawyers do. There was a lawyer who defended Polkinghorn.

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Speaker 2: You know what do you do? Justice must be seen

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Speaker 2: to be done. But then we've got the very good

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Speaker 2: piece also a Newsroom by Eric Crampton and the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Initiative under the headline first Rule of Government Club

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Speaker 2: the state protects the state, So where the government goes

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Speaker 2: on this in terms of apologies and pay arts is fascinating,

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Speaker 2: But they seem to be newsrooms seem to be the

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Speaker 2: only one covering this. But if you're interested in it

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Speaker 2: because it's a big, big subject, well worth read sixteen Past.

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Speaker 2: Talks at be same response every time, Mike, I'm a

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Speaker 2: teacher and I like some of what she said about

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Speaker 2: it education, but I do worry about those loveies no

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Speaker 2: matter how they try or reach the standards. Hope that's

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Speaker 2: something in it for the Mike. It's nice to have

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Speaker 2: a minister answering questions and clearly having a good grasp

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Speaker 2: on their remit and issues they're responsible for. Mike, Erica

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Speaker 2: Stanford's the perfect education minister, principal on good intentions, firm

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Speaker 2: on execution. What a big difference from the last useless

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Speaker 2: lot which had no standards, no execution, know nothing. Thank you, Jim.

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Speaker 2: And at the opposite end of the political spectrum is

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Speaker 2: RAWI white to t who I was watching in the

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Speaker 2: house yesterday. I am increasingly aghast. The problem is and

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Speaker 2: it goes back to the Austrian example I gave you

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Speaker 2: before it's all very well, not that the Murray Party

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Speaker 2: are popular, but in Austria, so the right wings, the radicals,

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Speaker 2: they're popular, they're win the election, but no one wants

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Speaker 2: to touch them with a barge poll. I think increasingly

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Speaker 2: this is a problem for labor. Do you want to

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Speaker 2: be within one hundred miles of the Maori Party? So

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Speaker 2: the big Ray, the Mungolo mob rag in a potokey

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Speaker 2: this week. They were talking about it in the House

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Speaker 2: yesterday and Mark Mitchell was congratulating once again the police

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Speaker 2: on their operation. But this was a police operation targeting

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Speaker 2: the mongrel mob, and White TTE calls terrorism motivated by

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Speaker 2: a racist agenda. I mean, how do you get away

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Speaker 2: with that sort of stuff? Obviously Mitchell says it's ridiculous,

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Speaker 2: but a police sponsored terrorism and a continuation of the

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Speaker 2: state's predatory behavior. So you're allowed to deal with the

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Speaker 2: drugs and you see what they got from them, the

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Speaker 2: bikes and the cars and the house and the cash

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Speaker 2: and the bank account and the meth and the coke

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Speaker 2: and the dope and the guns, and they stopped two murders.

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Speaker 2: But that's racist, and that clown's in Parliament.

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Speaker 2: for a stylish centerpiece to any home, because the home

870
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: the heart of the Homers in the kitchen, of course.

871
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: So best of all, it is a highly affordable option

872
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: to fit your budget. So you'll be interested see for yourself,

873
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: Imperio dot in z as where you're heading Inmperio dot

874
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: in Zhsky. Now it is seven twenty four. I've got

875
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: some simple questions around our attitude to nuclear for you,

876
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: and whether we are capable of becoming slightly more mature

877
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: about all of this. So this country got semi famous

878
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: for its anti nuclear stance. Of course we were, but

879
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 2: we're still anti nuclear. But we got famous a lifetime ago.

880
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: But the world has changed, It has moved on. Amazon

881
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: and Google as well as Oracle are building their own

882
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: nuclear reactors these days. And of the not building their

883
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: own reactors, they are buying nuclear deals with places like

884
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: Three Mile Island, which also a lifetime ago, made headlines

885
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: around the world. They need nuclear to run data centers.

886
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 2: Data centers need astonishing amounts of power. New Zealand wants

887
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: to host data centers. Can New Zealand be a data

888
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: center hub given the power system we now run?

889
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: No?

890
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 2: Ironically, Just yesterday Genesis announced they'll be buying more coal

891
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: for next winter to cover the gap, the ongoing gap

892
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: that's not for data centers, by the way, that's to

893
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: turn the lights on on a cold morning. This country,

894
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: as we found out this winter, can't handle cold mornings,

895
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: far less data centers. And nothing's changing between now and

896
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: next winter. Factor in evs if you want, and we

897
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: return to the ongoing but unanswered question, just what is it.

898
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: We're going to run the country on hydros good, but

899
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: it's not reliable, and neither are any of the other options.

900
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: We may or may not ever get around pretty ing

901
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: at scale when solar batteries, nuclear is the only reliable

902
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: and by the way, it's good for the environment. So

903
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: we want to run data centers. We don't have enough power,

904
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 2: we're still burning more coal and the thing we hate,

905
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: nuclear is a viable option and being picked up and

906
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: run with around the rest of the world. Are we

907
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: to be left behind or are we to grow up

908
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 2: and move forward?

909
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 13: Now?

910
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: I'd like to think that answers itself. But let's see

911
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: ski disappointed to see yesterday we're going to lose an

912
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: electorate seat. North Ireland, in fact, is going to lose

913
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: an electorate seat in the election of twenty twenty six,

914
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: so there's going to be sixty four electorate seats, not

915
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: sixty five. Don't worry about the parliament. There's still one

916
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one of them before you get to

917
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: an overhang, so there's a thrill. So there's one hundred

918
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: and twenty one, which means you got another list seat?

919
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: Do we need more list seat? As a result of

920
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: fewer electorate seats, new boundaries are going to be drawn

921
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: up for the twenty twenty six elections. So where specifically

922
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: that gets hit, I don't know, but we will wait

923
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: and see. The MARI seats remain. By the way, at seven,

924
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: I note also that the kids, I suppose can I

925
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: call them kids? Sixteen seventeen year olds young people? The

926
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: ten offenders as part of the government's pilot military boot

927
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: camp academy, whatever you want.

928
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 10: To call it.

929
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: They graduated once again if that's the right word, on Sunday,

930
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: and they now move into their remaining nine months in

931
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: the community. So the news this morning is that there's

932
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: a little bit of concern that some of them might reoffend,

933
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: find a roof climb on it. Who knows what us

934
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: for a getaway car. Maybe some KFC I don't know anyway.

935
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: So far, the pilot organizers they're cautious to declare success,

936
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: but things so far, the initial three month in residence

937
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: phase has gone well and they've seen noted a noticeable

938
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: behavioral shift in the young men. So three months inside,

939
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: nine months in the community intensive care alongside with people

940
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: helping them out and fingers crossed. I mean, there's no critics.

941
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: It's like the old lunches.

942
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 9: There's only ten of them. I mean, how hard is

943
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 9: it going to be to just keep an eye on them?

944
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 2: To be fair, I think one lift, one didn't want

945
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 2: to leave. I think one left. I might be wrong,

946
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: but I think one left.

947
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 20: Oh, it is quite hard to keep it eye.

948
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: It is quite hard to keep an eye on them.

949
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 2: Moving to Australia and a lot of people are doing it.

950
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 2: It's a thing, but it might not be all it's

951
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: cracked up to be.

952
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 16: More.

953
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: Shortly, the big.

954
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: Use bold opinions, the mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover,

955
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: the law designed to intrigue and use togs. D B. B.

956
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: Parker came through our ten to Mini Mini Mini Who's agoing?

957
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: Shortly through it, of course, as did so many actors.

958
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: Lord of the ring is smart to guess. Anyways, back

959
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: in the country filming something quote unquote secret at the moment,

960
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: but we will we will strap them down to the

961
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: floor and we'll water board him until he tells.

962
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 11: Us what it is.

963
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: Anyways, with us after eight o'clock this morning, the longtime

964
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: at twenty three minutes away from it is the trans

965
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: Tasman fight back on. We've got new numbers around the

966
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: income gap between us and them. When it comes to

967
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: the construction industry, the infrastructure industry generally, and is it

968
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 2: well it's shrinking. Are the Construction and Infrastructure Workforce Development

969
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: Council Chief Executive Philip Aldridge is will it?

970
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 10: Philip?

971
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 2: Very good morning to you.

972
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 20: Good morning, Mike.

973
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: So how much variability have you found? I know, for example,

974
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: wages comparable for electricians and telecom workers except if you

975
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: happen to be in Victoria in New South Wales. So

976
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: what do you have to be? Where do you have

977
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: to be before you start getting all these weird and

978
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: wonderful comparisons.

979
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 20: The ounce's context, Mike, it is quite hard. So reality

980
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 20: is the free occupations you looked at, well, lots of

981
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 20: occupations looked at the Letcher Tech was the same, but

982
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 20: for mobile plant operators and construction workers deal with quite

983
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 20: a big difference. Australia is paying more. I think the

984
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 20: key thing is that it's a lot more in salaries,

985
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 20: involves house prices, US takes income, school fees, medical fees,

986
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 20: those other things. We're trying to bring a wider picture

987
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 20: good and trying to bring a update information for employers

988
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 20: and workers.

989
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm very glad you're doing it because life stage, I note,

990
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: plays an interesting role. So when you're young, you're a

991
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: bit frustrated. You will looking in the meatworks in the

992
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: middle of the North Island. You got laid off the

993
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: other day. Why wouldn't you go to Australia. But by

994
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: the time you have some children, look at education, et cetera.

995
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: It all changes, didn't it.

996
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 20: Exactly. What we found is that when people are young

997
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 20: and just been traditional oe to Australia's tradeing oe, they

998
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 20: can go and live in Bondo Beach and work lots

999
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 20: of ours, get lots of overtime. But as they get

1000
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 20: older and they want to settle down, then come the

1001
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 20: housing gap is is shrunk. Socially, it's more attractive in

1002
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 20: New Zealand to have raise a family, buy a house

1003
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 20: and go from there. So it's also Australia. One thing,

1004
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 20: Mike is Australia seems to be a lot more misogynistic

1005
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 20: and our culture is better here. So if your female

1006
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 20: worker is better to.

1007
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: Work in zone, how do you measure that?

1008
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 20: Well, that's through the through the quality of the feedback

1009
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 20: we got. We did both quantitative administrative startup, but also

1010
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 20: lots of interviews, and that was one of the things

1011
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 20: that came through quite strongly that Australia has a harder cultures, satistic,

1012
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 20: both male and female.

1013
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: Yes, it's true. I'm just interested. I mean, if you

1014
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: look at the reporter to Channel Line the other day

1015
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: and the media in general, I mean it's shocking what

1016
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: goes on in some parts of that sort of. But

1017
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: then you come back to the question why do you

1018
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: move to Australia in the first place, And how much

1019
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: of it's about beer and sunshine and just good vibes,

1020
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: And you can tell me a million different things. I

1021
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: don't care because I'm going.

1022
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 20: That's true. Well, as you know, as you said, your

1023
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 20: chund and doors are over there as well in terms

1024
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 20: of England and Australia, and so I always get that.

1025
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 20: The key thing is how do we think people back

1026
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 20: and how do we make sure there's up to date

1027
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 20: information because people aren't always spending lots of money in

1028
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 20: the mind anymore, so you'll make sure it's up to

1029
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 20: date information. And also we know within sort of fifteen

1030
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 20: eighteen months, twenty twenty six and twenty seven we're going

1031
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 20: to start to big up take in construction and instructure

1032
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 20: any workers here to deliver that.

1033
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: That's an interesting part of your report. People need to

1034
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: think about New Zealand's long term potential? Do you think

1035
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: they do?

1036
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 20: Probably not, to be honest, I think they're probably thinking

1037
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 20: because they got a job, if they're making money, the

1038
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 20: opportunity to make a start a business. But I'm thinking

1039
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 20: about that. I'm thinking, how can we have the labor

1040
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 20: skilled labor to twenty six three seven when we get

1041
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 20: out of this sort of dolgrum and start seeing major

1042
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 20: works come on line over next two or three years.

1043
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: Fantastic Good on you, Philip. I'm glad you've done the work.

1044
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much. Philip Aldridge of the Construction and

1045
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: Infrastructure Workforce Development Council CEO, And he's right. Our son's

1046
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: just moved to Edinburgh, by the way, not that you care,

1047
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: but I'm just telling you this because he raised it

1048
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 2: interestingly enough. It's the question will they ever be back?

1049
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: One won't. I'm almost certain they won't. The other one

1050
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you. But he's moved from London to

1051
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: Edinburgh and he's loving Edinburgh. He thinks Edinburgh is a

1052
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: fantastic place. It is warm, not literally it's freezing, but

1053
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: it's kind and it's friendly and it's open. And he

1054
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: tells us the Scots have the best sense of humor going,

1055
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: which is nice night.

1056
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 9: And it's a long way away from you, of course,

1057
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 9: it is a long way away.

1058
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: That is That is indeed correct. It is my last gig,

1059
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: nineteen minutes away from I note that the millennium speaking

1060
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: of good things happening in the economy. I'm glad that

1061
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: report does that because if you look at New Zealand,

1062
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: I've got a good vibe about New Zealand. Not literally

1063
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: right here right now, but I've said a couple of times,

1064
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: and i just want to reiterate when I'm proven right,

1065
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: so you can go. Didn't Mike say that by the

1066
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: end of this year, which isn't that far away. When

1067
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: you go into the Christmas period, you're going to be

1068
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: seeing a number of things that are looking up, just

1069
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: in general, the vibe, the mood, the marbo. The interest

1070
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 2: rates will be down, the housing market will be moving,

1071
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 2: the job market might not have turned, but it'll be close.

1072
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: And then when you move into twenty twenty five, we're

1073
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: going to start to see some real momentum. By twenty

1074
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 2: six it's going to be business as normal. That's my

1075
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: vibe about this. So I'm glad that somebody's putting out

1076
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 2: reports telling us to think a little bit more longer

1077
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: term as opposed to the here and now. Anyway, back

1078
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 2: to hospitality Millennium and copthorm As in the hotel people,

1079
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: they're back into Christy for the first time since the earthquakes,

1080
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: which I didn't realize they had left, because I mean,

1081
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: you know, when you stay at a hotel, who the

1082
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 2: hell knows who owns the thing doesn't really matter. Anyway,

1083
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 2: They've gone and bought the Mafia Hotel, which I am

1084
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Speaker 2: here to tell you I am a frequenter of, and

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00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: when we go to christ Use we stay at the

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Speaker 2: Mayfia Hotel. Why because the cool hotel and so obviously

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00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: the Millennium and Copthurn people work that out. So they've

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00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 2: gone and board at to thirty two million dollars sixty

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00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 2: seven rooms and so they are back in the business

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Speaker 2: of hospitality. So yet another little sign that people are

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00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: vibing in the positive direction. About one christ Church in two,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by the News Talks at Me.

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Speaker 2: It is fourteen away from a Northland speaking of tourism

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00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 2: and hotels, it's the Mayfia. For all the people texting

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Speaker 2: and saying what was the name of the hotels? The

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Speaker 2: mayfa in christ Church, Northland one of the best twenty

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Speaker 2: five places in the world to travel to next year.

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Speaker 2: This is listed by National Geographic spot Rear Wildlife. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what the size of the tourism market to

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00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: spot Rear Wildlife is, but international travelers they write and

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00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: they're correct. Landing in Auckland usually hits south, but the

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Speaker 2: little visited Northland region has fascinating wildlife and warm waters

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00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: that offer excellent diving. All true. Many fish species in

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Speaker 2: the reserve are such spotted black groper, the mosaic moray,

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Speaker 2: the Lord how coral fish? The Lord? How coral fish

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00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: only found nowhere else in the country. I know ague

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Speaker 2: with it. So what's the walk that's broken at the

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00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: moment by the cathedral cove because you can't get the steps.

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00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. Got the coral fish. See one

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00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: door closes, another one opens. That's how it works, isn't it.

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00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm going to have time, but

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Speaker 2: this very interesting piece TV three's Stuff's ratings. The news

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Speaker 2: is in dire, dire, dire trouble and I will come

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Speaker 2: back to that later on. I got some interesting numbers yesterday,

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00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: but it's very good piece this morning. You've got to

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00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: read it follows on from Layatensmith. We did the interview

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00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: last week or the week before, can't remember, but Lighton

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Speaker 2: did a podcast with them, Roger Partridge of the New

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00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: Zealand Initiative, and they're deeply concerned, as we all should be,

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Speaker 2: with the overreach of the Supreme Court in the moment,

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Speaker 2: so our highest court overstepping its bounds, reshaping laws and

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00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: ways that challenge Parliament's authority, says a new piece from

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Speaker 2: Roger this morning, where they come up with a couple

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Speaker 2: of solutions as to what the government should be doing

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00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: about this overreach in New Zealands and new report who

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Speaker 2: makes the law reigning in the Supreme Court. So they've

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Speaker 2: got a couple of ideas. Parliament should introduce a traditional,

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Speaker 2: thin definition of the rule of law into the Senior

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00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: Courts Act. This would moderate the Supreme Court's intervention ast tendencies.

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Speaker 2: Parliament should also tighten the rules the courts use when

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00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: interpreting laws made by Parliament. The Legislation Act of twenty

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Speaker 2: nineteen provides guidelines for how court should approach this task,

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00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: but these guidelines are broad, giving judge a significant leeway.

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Speaker 2: Tightening these rules in a couple of key ways would help. Firstly,

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Speaker 2: Parliament should specific or specify that courts must interpret statues

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00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: based on their context at the time of enactment. Now

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00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: that goes back to the twenty eleven business of the

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Speaker 2: Foreshore that the Government are currently grappling with. Secondly, Parliament

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00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: should restrict the principle of legality, aged judicial doctrine that

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00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: protects purported rights from being overridden by general or am

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00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: ambiguous statutory language. They also say reforming the Bill of

1144
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: Rights is another crucial step. Our report recommends reforming the

1145
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 2: judicial appointment processes. Appointments to Senior Appellate Court should favor

1146
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: candidates who have demonstrated judicial restraint and respect for Parliament's role. Now,

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00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: whether any of that's going to happen or not is

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00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: highly debatable, but it needs to and the sooner the better.

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Speaker 2: Eleven Away From eight the make.

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Speaker 1: Costu Racist with Faws Talk says The Away from Queen

1151
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: Sounds finally opened its film production facility.

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00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: Five years of the making remarkable studio now open for business.

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00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: It's an alternative to what's off. And I suppose an

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00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 2: Auckland screen Time New Zealand boss Philly de Lacy happens

1155
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: to be in France at the moment, but that's not

1156
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: going to stop because we got the tech to get

1157
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 2: her on the old WhatsApp morning. I remember talking about

1158
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: this when this this whole thing was first mooted. Is

1159
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: it if everything you dreamed it would be.

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Speaker 18: The studio? Yeah, I'm delighted. Oh look, we're so excited

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Speaker 18: about it. We've been looking for a studio space in

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Speaker 18: Queenstown for I've been looking for more than five years.

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Speaker 18: I know lots lots of people have been looking for

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Speaker 18: a lot longer. And we were in Queenstown starting up

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Speaker 18: A Remarkable Place to Die at the beginning of the

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Speaker 18: year and an old department store came available and we

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Speaker 18: all just like the whole team rang me and they're like,

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Speaker 18: we've got to take it, and I went, oh my god,

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Speaker 18: we've got to take it. And so we filmed A

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Speaker 18: Remarkable Place to Die, which is an eight hour series

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Speaker 18: which is launching here atcom at the moment in the studio,

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Speaker 18: and it was just too good to let go. So

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Speaker 18: we've spent a bit of time negotiating, figuring out how

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Speaker 18: we're going to run it, and we're now open for business.

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Speaker 2: So can you answer the question, if you build it,

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Speaker 2: will they come?

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Speaker 18: Well, since we announced that, we've had multitudes of inquiry,

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Speaker 18: so I would say, so.

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Speaker 2: Are you eating somebody else's lunch like Aukland's.

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Speaker 7: No, not at all.

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Speaker 18: I think there is a lot of production that will

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00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 18: spread all over the country. It's a small space, but

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Speaker 18: it's what it does is make production in Queenstown a

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00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 18: lot smoother and much simpler process. And you know, we've

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Speaker 18: got absolutely spectacular locations in Queenstown and it needs a

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Speaker 18: facility to really be able to make the production industry

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Speaker 18: in that region boom, and you know, and it's a

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Speaker 18: great complementary industry to tourism, so it sort of goes

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Speaker 18: hand in hand, and we really want to build the

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Speaker 18: infrastructure there.

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Speaker 2: Going to do you have the people or do you

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Speaker 2: need the people? And do they need to relate?

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Speaker 18: I've got lots of amazing people and we want to

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Speaker 18: attract more. It's the upshot.

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Speaker 2: What's your state, because you'd be at the cutting edge

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Speaker 2: of all of this. See the media landscape in this

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Speaker 2: country is in some dire straits at the mind, but

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Speaker 2: then again on the international stage, you got all the

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Speaker 2: streamers making no end of product. At the moment, are

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Speaker 2: things good for people like you or not?

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Speaker 18: We look, I want to touch wood a lot of

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00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 18: the time because we're having a great year at the moment.

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Speaker 18: We the industry in New Zealand is really tough. You know,

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Speaker 18: our broadcasters are going through a really, really difficult time

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Speaker 18: and I hope that gets rectified because I think it's

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Speaker 18: really important to protect our terrestrial broadcasters and that's actually

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Speaker 18: something that's been commonly said around this market. But I

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Speaker 18: think that there's also opportunity you know, there's shrinkage in

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Speaker 18: the market around the world, which means that people are

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Speaker 18: looking for different ways to do business. And New Zealand's

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Speaker 18: a great market to do business. We've got amazing crews,

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Speaker 18: we've got the New Zealand dollar, we've got you know,

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Speaker 18: equivalent rebates to everywhere else in the world, and we're

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Speaker 18: a really good, honest, you know, excellent operators. So I

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Speaker 18: think that that's what, you know, that's a real strength

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Speaker 18: for us, and I think that there's there's actually real

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Speaker 18: opportunities for us to do more co productions, look at

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Speaker 18: different ways of doing business, and eventually things will come right.

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Speaker 7: Good.

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Speaker 2: Philly go well in France. Philly the Lacy screen Time

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Speaker 2: New Zealand five minutes away from it. As from the

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Speaker 2: general media reading yesterday that TV three Stuff's News on

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Speaker 2: Sunday was watched by twenty six thousand, three hundred people

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Speaker 2: in the demo, which I think is twenty five to

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Speaker 2: fifty four. Twenty six thousand and three hundred people. Is nobody,

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Speaker 2: I mean in this program on hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 2: people listen, which is not to you know, spreak this

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Speaker 2: program just trying to give you a comparison TV one,

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Speaker 2: which is their direct competitor, had six times the number

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Speaker 2: of viewers, a fifty six share, which means of all

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Speaker 2: the people watching the television, that maybe got fifty six

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Speaker 2: percent of the market to nine when in their so

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Speaker 2: called heyday, I'm reading news have had a thirty share.

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Speaker 2: Then when it all fell apart, and it fell apart

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Speaker 2: completely in July they had a twenty share and on

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00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: Sunday they were down to nine. So how long can

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Speaker 2: that continue? The whole thing's very very sad. Then they

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Speaker 2: were talking about a program that started at seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: on Sunday on TV three called On the Latter, which

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Speaker 2: is a sort of a housing program a supported by Kiwibank.

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Speaker 2: It had six thousand, four hundred people. Six thousand, four

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Speaker 2: hundred people. There would not have been a less successful

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Speaker 2: prime time launch in New Zealand. Television history wrote the first.

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Speaker 2: So it is a duer old state of affairs, I'm

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Speaker 2: here to tell you, speaking of TV and movies, though upbeat,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Craig Parker on the program After the News,

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Speaker 2: which is next.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and views, the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Dailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talk said be.

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Speaker 2: In a seven past eight, Craig Parker's back in the country,

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Speaker 2: Shortland Street, Lord of the Ring, Spartacus, Take you Peck.

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Speaker 2: He's currently filming something secret and there's also appearing at

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Speaker 2: the Armageddon Expo this weekend. Anyway, Craig Parker, as well

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Speaker 2: as very good morning to you, to you and delightful

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Speaker 2: to meet you. It seems that it seems one of

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01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: those weird things that I've been around a long time

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Speaker 2: and you've been around a long time, and.

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Speaker 10: Yet we have never met.

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Speaker 2: We've never met, so we're rectifying it now. What do

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Speaker 2: you hear filming?

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Speaker 10: I can't says?

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01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: Is it super cool?

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Speaker 10: It was very lovely to be asked, and it was

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Speaker 10: very lovely to do. It's all done now, I was finished. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 10: So have you seen it?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 10: I haven't.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a suspicion as to whether it could

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Speaker 2: be brilliant?

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Speaker 10: It'll be amazing? Will it be one of the best

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Speaker 10: things has ever been on television in this country?

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Speaker 2: So it's a TV thing there?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 8: It is?

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Speaker 2: Okay, funny drama, Oh everything, what's the secret you about?

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Speaker 10: It's just it's nothing particularly exciting.

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Speaker 7: It's just.

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Speaker 10: It's just that it is. It is better for it to.

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Speaker 2: Remain okay, fair enough to well, I'm glad you had

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Speaker 2: a good time. How much time you've s been back

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Speaker 2: here these days?

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Speaker 10: The last time I was back was two Christmases ago,

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01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 10: and then before then I hadn't been back throughout COVID.

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01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 10: So the idea of being in a room for two

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01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 10: weeks by myself was I every few years I try

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Speaker 10: and come back, and ideally so my parents down south,

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01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 10: so if I can do Christmas with them and then

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Speaker 10: have a month in Auckland in January, which is the best.

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Speaker 10: It's one of the best places on earth to be

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Speaker 10: and it escapes. I live in Los Angeles where we

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01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 10: don't really have weather, but January is a bit wet

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01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 10: and a bit slightly colder than yes and normal, so

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Speaker 10: it's kind of nice to escape.

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Speaker 2: So you are an American now, I am an American.

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Speaker 10: I got my citizenship this year, no last year.

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Speaker 2: So to explain to everyone, because I asked you on

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Speaker 2: the same questions, when they come and when they do,

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Speaker 2: what you do? So you go there on a visa

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Speaker 2: and you get to work in that spine and if

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Speaker 2: things go well, you then get maybe a Green card,

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Speaker 2: which you've got and then then you've become a citizenship.

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Speaker 2: But a citizen is a conscious decision, though, isn't it

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Speaker 2: as opposed to being able to merely be there and work.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and.

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Speaker 10: There is a slight difference in that the green card

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Speaker 10: gives you, you know, absolute everything except voting and one

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Speaker 10: other thing which I'm never a call. But you have

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Speaker 10: to remain in the country. You have to be in

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Speaker 10: the country a certain amount of time each year, and

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Speaker 10: you can't then go away work in another country for

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Speaker 10: nine months a year and then come back. It's difficult

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Speaker 10: where if you become a citizen, it's I can come

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Speaker 10: and go as I please. The difference is you pay

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Speaker 10: tax there for the rest of your life or you

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Speaker 10: put in a tax return. And I think they can

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Speaker 10: call you up into the militia if they go to war,

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Speaker 10: which you know in America may well have it. I

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Speaker 10: suspect I've aged out of that risk.

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Speaker 2: What is it about America that made you want to

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Speaker 2: vest to bet extent?

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Speaker 10: I had lived in London for a long time, which

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Speaker 10: I absolutely loved, but the industry there is difficult. If

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Speaker 10: you're not English. I think England is difficult. If you're

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Speaker 10: not England, England is difficult. I grew up in Fiji,

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Speaker 10: so New Zealand, you know, is very much home. But

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Speaker 10: I've never I've never needed a place to be home.

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Speaker 10: Home is a collection of friends or where I want

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Speaker 10: to be. So that freedom in England where slight I

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Speaker 10: found I was there was a freedom from their integral

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Speaker 10: class system and what school you went to and all

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Speaker 10: that thing. We sort of get to skate through that

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Speaker 10: because we're not even in competition for that. But it's

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Speaker 10: a wonderful place. It's just it's a bit grim. So

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Speaker 10: you talk to people about you know, I'd have a

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Speaker 10: meeting with my manager or agent there and that'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 10: it's terrible, darling. It's you know, it's all awful. There's

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Speaker 10: nothing going on all you know, it was booming industry.

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Speaker 10: But you go to America and especially when you first

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Speaker 10: arrived there, and you know, you go to meetings everywhere,

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Speaker 10: so everyone wants to meet anyone new just in case

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Speaker 10: there and everyone is so god damn positive that like,

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Speaker 10: oh we're so glad you're here. It's amazing, We're going

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Speaker 10: to do great things. I can't wait to work with you.

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Speaker 10: So you it's you know, and it's it's rubbish, but

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Speaker 10: it's that positivity is amazing and and it really is

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Speaker 10: the place for this industry where you know, things are

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Speaker 10: changing a bit now, but there was a sense of

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Speaker 10: anything as possible. And also it was a large enough

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Speaker 10: market that you are in one successful show, you make

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Speaker 10: enough needing to be safe for a while.

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Speaker 2: That's the story of America, though, isn't it anything as possible?

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Speaker 10: Anything as possible. It's I'm not sure how real that

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Speaker 10: story is anymore real for you, Yes it is, but

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Speaker 10: there is there is a you know, every country has

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Speaker 10: its own myth and its own idea of itself enough,

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Speaker 10: and that's slightly outdated, I but there is greater possibility.

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Speaker 10: It's just a very big place. It's and California is

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Speaker 10: different to a lot of you know, it's Europe. It's

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Speaker 10: a whole lot of different countries all shoved together pretending

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Speaker 10: to be one country exactly.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of the spartacles and that stuff

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Speaker 2: in the moment, the armor give and shortly Craig Parkers

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Speaker 2: with us twelve minutes past.

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Speaker 1: Eight, the mic asking breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: car it by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It just talks to quarter past Craig Parkers with us.

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Speaker 2: So you can't tell us what you were here filming.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, but you are here for the Alma Gidden thing.

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Speaker 2: Just let me get into that by talking about Lord

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Speaker 2: of the Ring, Spartacus.

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Speaker 10: That whole world.

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Speaker 2: How did you get into it? And did you partially

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Speaker 2: answer the question by saying once you get and it

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Speaker 2: leads to a whole bunch of other stuff.

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Speaker 10: Anyway, Absolutely it was. There was a show Hercules, yeah,

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Speaker 10: and there was a show Zena and Young Herk and

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Speaker 10: a number of sort of robbed hap at. One of

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Speaker 10: great producer came to New Zealand to use New Zealand's

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Speaker 10: environment and for fantasy, and they were campy and they

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Speaker 10: were silly, but they became big money shows for New Zealand.

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Speaker 10: We hadn't been used to any of those budgets, and

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Speaker 10: you know, the shows were pretty crappy, but it was

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Speaker 10: suddenly a different way of working. So all of New

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Speaker 10: Zealand's crew and all of Auckland at least Crewe and

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Speaker 10: actors all were on the show at some stage. And

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Speaker 10: as an actor you would be invited back, you know,

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Speaker 10: every couple of weeks and you put a different wig

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Speaker 10: on a different thing and be someone else. Terrible accents,

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Speaker 10: terrible acting, a lot of things like that. But it

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Speaker 10: gave us all the taste of that, and I think

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Speaker 10: it was the beginning of New Zealand being seen as

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Speaker 10: a great location, particularly for fantasy staff from overseas.

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Speaker 2: Do excuse my ignorance because I don't know any of

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Speaker 2: the names the people who were coming to apart from

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Speaker 2: Jason Mama, obviously everyone knows whom. But the other people

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Speaker 2: that are coming are they within world?

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Speaker 10: I don't know anyone. So often you you know, I

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Speaker 10: do quite a few of these things, and it's it's

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Speaker 10: like school camp, you know, over the weekend you get

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Speaker 10: a little gang of friends from the guests.

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Speaker 2: You don't underplay it because we had Do you know

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Speaker 2: the name Robert Patrick? Yes, yeah, right, So he does

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Speaker 2: the same thing. So he turns out I'd never meet

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Speaker 2: him either. It turns out to be nice at Gloving.

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Speaker 2: A lot of nice guy in the world. So this

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Speaker 2: this whole thing of going to Armageddon's around the world,

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Speaker 2: this is an industry. It is it's absolutely time industry

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Speaker 2: and it's it is a.

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Speaker 10: I it's easy to be cynical about these things, but

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Speaker 10: they're actually I love them. They're a place where, for

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Speaker 10: all different reasons, people who love a show or a

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Speaker 10: genre of shows come together and you get to meet people.

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Speaker 10: When we make a show, it's it's about the making

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Speaker 10: of the show. Well for me anyway, it's the Carni

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Speaker 10: folk aspect of it. And you you you know, you

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Speaker 10: have a home viewer in mind, but the process for

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Speaker 10: me is all about the making of it and you

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Speaker 10: sometimes you forget that other people out in the world

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Speaker 10: watch it, which is a good thing because it pays

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Speaker 10: our bills. But these events you get to meet people

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Speaker 10: who really love the stuff you've done, and it's it's

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Speaker 10: not an ego thing where you're going, I'm amazing. These

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Speaker 10: people want to meet me. They want to meet you

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Speaker 10: because you are part of some world they love. And

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Speaker 10: with a Lord of the Rings those I'd never read

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Speaker 10: the books as a kid. I didn't know the value

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Speaker 10: of those stories, And twenty years later still people are

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Speaker 10: coming largely for Lord of the Rings stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, would you have inhabited advice?

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Speaker 18: Do you?

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five years ago? Here're some fantastical stuff that

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Speaker 2: could you could be into as an actor. Would you

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Speaker 2: be going, well, that's not really familiar. I've got bitter ideas.

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Speaker 2: Or once you immersed yourself and you couldn't believe your.

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Speaker 10: Luck, we couldn't believe the luck. And also I love

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Speaker 10: those There is something about fantasy worlds that there is

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Speaker 10: something operatic and wonderful. You get to you know, if

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Speaker 10: you're going to hate you really hate, if you're going

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Speaker 10: to love you, really love you, you can really sort

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Speaker 10: of have a good time with it. So I do

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Speaker 10: like those worlds, and you can get it in a

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Speaker 10: realistic setting. Every show has to define its own universe,

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Speaker 10: even if it apparently is this universe, it's not. It's

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Speaker 10: always a universe within the show. And within the fantasy

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Speaker 10: worlds you get to play some really fun stuff.

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Speaker 2: Is it original? And the reason I asked that I

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Speaker 2: read a report the other day post the strike in Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: production's gone down.

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Speaker 10: Terribly exactly eighty percent less exactly so.

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Speaker 2: They don't make. What they are making is all remakes

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Speaker 2: of remakes. There is not an original idea left. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so is what you're doing an original idea or just

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Speaker 2: an offshoot of the same thing.

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Speaker 10: Well, there's the idea that there is no original ideas.

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Speaker 10: It's it's the five stories that we retell. But what

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Speaker 10: has happened is it's I think there's a number of things.

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Speaker 10: There is that sort of eighties happened with it manufacturing.

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Speaker 10: There is an asset stripping going on throughout the studios,

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Speaker 10: and hedge funds own I think it's seventy percent of

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Speaker 10: the studios are owned by hedge funds. Now and hedge

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Speaker 10: funds don't grow anything. They shove ahole lot of capital

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Speaker 10: in somewhere, they strip as much return from that, and

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Speaker 10: then they fack off with their I said, back with

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Speaker 10: their capital, and they leave ruins behind. So we're sort

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Speaker 10: of going through that change. And we're also going through

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Speaker 10: a stage where you pay j Low two hundred million

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Speaker 10: dollars to do five films for Netflix. You don't really

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Speaker 10: care how good they are because it's Netflix. So everyone

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Speaker 10: tunes in that night. I think they had half a

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Speaker 10: billion people tune into some robot thing and you know,

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Speaker 10: she's great. People in it are great. It was terrible,

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Speaker 10: but it doesn't matter because this you don't need them

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Speaker 10: the next night. You just need that one metric to

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Speaker 10: amazing and it's heartbreaking, but I think, you know, there's

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Speaker 10: still some of the most creative people in the world

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Speaker 10: are working out of that place, and they will find

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Speaker 10: a way to make good stories. I think there are

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Speaker 10: still good stories being told, but there's just a lot

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Speaker 10: of drafts at the moment as well.

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Speaker 2: One more question about being a US citizen, will you vote?

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Speaker 2: I well, absolutely, you've decided yes. Yes, Even in California.

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Speaker 2: I suspect I know which way you vote that doesn't

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Speaker 2: really make but in California it's it's a Democrat.

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Speaker 10: I suspect, yeah, my vote will not really alter what

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Speaker 10: California is going to do. But I still the fact

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Speaker 10: that I can vote is an incredibly powerful thing for me.

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Speaker 10: I think, you know, I I wish everywhere it was

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Speaker 10: compulsory to vote, right. I wish people took a vote.

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Speaker 10: The value of a vote to process serious, the process seriously.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: And also, and I absolutely get it there are people

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Speaker 10: who go it doesn't make any difference which way I vote,

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Speaker 10: because there's a whole lot of people who you know,

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Speaker 10: never really benefit. But but for me, it's I love it.

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Speaker 10: I got to vote. I think in more sort of

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Speaker 10: local things last year.

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Speaker 2: Do you vote in props and props?

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Speaker 10: You know I do, But it's so confusing the system

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Speaker 10: there is. You know, whenever there is a Prop fifty five,

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Speaker 10: it's like vote no one to say yes to reject

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Speaker 10: the proposal that you agree with, and you have you

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Speaker 10: know you have to. So there is certain amount of

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Speaker 10: things that you just you find a newspaper that you trust,

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Speaker 10: or you that aligns with your thoughts, and there's a

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Speaker 10: whole lot of you know, the dog you vote for,

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Speaker 10: the dog catcher or the local librarian assistant and stuff.

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Speaker 2: So Carrie would Kerry, you were embracing her in a

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Speaker 2: way that I've really seen. Is there something you want

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Speaker 2: to tell us about you?

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Speaker 10: I love carry Woodham more than anything. We we met

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Speaker 10: each other years ago in the disgraceful days in Wellington

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Speaker 10: of Heredisa and I love her and she and I

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Speaker 10: lived together for a week.

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Speaker 2: While Stop and I didn't even know. I just thought

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Speaker 2: these two know each other.

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Speaker 10: No, I adore her. I haven't done it for a

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Speaker 10: few years.

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Speaker 2: Good will you get catch up with him? Good to

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Speaker 2: make you nice to talk?

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Speaker 7: Loving me?

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Speaker 2: three oh nine pasking Mike funny, you should mention yourself

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Speaker 2: and Craig have never met. I was just thinking to myself,

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Speaker 2: how on earth to two such high profile celebrities never

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Speaker 2: cross paths. Well, first of all, he's a celebrity and

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm moderately high profile. He's the real deal.

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Speaker 2: But you would be surprised at how few people I know.

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Speaker 2: And it stems largely from the fact I never leave

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Speaker 2: the house, and so I come here in the cover

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Speaker 2: of darkness, I turn on a light, I present to

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Speaker 2: you for three hours, and then I scurry away home,

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Speaker 2: never to be seen for the rest of the day.

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Speaker 2: And that's basically out work rod little as lit as

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Speaker 2: after the news, which is next, here's news talks head been.

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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. Is

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Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way,

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Speaker 1: newstg saad been.

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Speaker 2: So it's begun the world of AI and where it

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Speaker 2: goes and what so so what happened was there was

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01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: this new trend. There's new thing called AI, and we decided,

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Speaker 2: like we do with all trends, that was going to

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Speaker 2: up end the world. We'd all lose our jobs, would

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Speaker 2: be run by robots in the world would no longer

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Speaker 2: be the way we recognized it in about three and

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Speaker 2: a half minutes time. Latest commentary is around the idea

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Speaker 2: that probably none of that's going to happen, that AI

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01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 2: is very useful, it's a modern tool. In certain areas,

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Speaker 2: you can do some interesting things with it. More interesting

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01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: things will develop, but it's not going to up in

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Speaker 2: the world. Then we get round the idea when we

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Speaker 2: were still in the freak out stage as to how

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Speaker 2: governments would handle it. What are these rules? How do

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Speaker 2: we control it? Who runs it, who builds it, why,

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01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 2: when and how? And I note yesterday that SAP and

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01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 2: we were talking about it with their result. The boss

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Speaker 2: Christian Klein. Europe, he argues, risks falling behind the US

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Speaker 2: and China if it ends up over regulating the sector.

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Speaker 2: If you can, if you only regulate technology in Europe,

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01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: how can your startups compete against the other startups like

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01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 2: in China, Asia and the US. Businesses need a more

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01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: harmonized pan European approach to pressing is sh Who's like

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01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 2: energy crisis, digital transformation, less regulation overall, not more, And

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01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 2: so the politics has begun and it's sort of not

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01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 2: unlike social media as far as I can work out,

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01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,560
Speaker 2: if country A regulates, does country B, CD, E and

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Speaker 2: F And if country A regulates but the others don't.

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Speaker 2: Where do you domicile yourself? What rules do you apply,

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01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 2: what tax do you pay? And so round and a

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01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 2: round we go. So it's another one of those stories.

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01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,919
Speaker 2: It's well worth following twenty two minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 16: International correspondence with ends in eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 16: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 7: But can we go on little very good morning to you, Hey,

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Speaker 7: good bonnie, how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well? Indeed, so Trump would tell you it's

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Speaker 2: the end of the world. How does this work when

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Speaker 2: a labor candidate or not a candidate but a Labor

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Speaker 2: party member wanders across to the Los Angeles or Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: or Delaware and starts, you know, campaigning away, Where are

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: we at with this? And how I are high up

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Speaker 2: the tree?

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Speaker 12: Does it go.

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01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 7: Very very high up the tree? And a real problem

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Speaker 7: and one which will not go away very quickly either.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 7: I used to write speeches for the Labor Party and

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Speaker 7: worked in the front bench back in the eighties, and

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Speaker 7: there were people who went from from my neck of

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Speaker 7: the woods over to campaign for Michael Decarcass and Walter

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Speaker 7: Mondale with exactly about the same amount of success as

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Speaker 7: air campaign for Neil kinnockover in our country. But that

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Speaker 7: was a volunteer thing, and you know, people fancied going

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Speaker 7: over to do it and went over and did it.

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Speaker 7: This is very clearly one hundred people who were arranged

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Speaker 7: by the Labor Party in separate spots within the USA,

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Speaker 7: in swing seats and had their accommodation sorted out for them.

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Speaker 7: This was the Labor Party directly interfering in the electoral

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Speaker 7: process of the USA. And I think, you know, Donald

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Speaker 7: Trump is now bought this to the Federal Commission of

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Speaker 7: the Elector on the election, and it is very difficult

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Speaker 7: to see how you could come to any conclusion as

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Speaker 7: to the fact that this wasn't actually outside influence. You

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Speaker 7: imagine if Russia has done this, you know, you imagine

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Speaker 7: what would happen. And it speaks of a couple of things. Firstly,

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Speaker 7: such arrogance on the part of the Labor Party, but

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Speaker 7: also such a lack of political nows on the part

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Speaker 7: of the leadership of the Labor Party that they would

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Speaker 7: go so far to outrage someone who is slightly more

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Speaker 7: likely than not to become the next US president and

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Speaker 7: therefore our closest exactly.

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Speaker 2: So that was my next Well, I've got several questions. Well,

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Speaker 2: let me ask my most pressure on on first, which

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Speaker 2: is what does he do i e. Trump when he wins?

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Speaker 2: And how much trouble is brittain them for this? And

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Speaker 2: he's not a bloke who.

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Speaker 7: Forgets well, I think there was enormous trouble for Great Britain.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it is usually more difficult for the UK

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Speaker 7: to deal with a Democrat administration in the past, particularly

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Speaker 7: on the issue of Ireland, but also even before that,

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Speaker 7: on the issue of colonialism and so on, than it

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Speaker 7: is with a Republican administration. I mean the closest allyship

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Speaker 7: we had was during Margaret satur and Ronald Reagan's eight years,

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Speaker 7: you know, straight from eighty to eighty eight. Then there

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Speaker 7: was there was a common cause. There was a bit

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Speaker 7: of a common cause between Blair and Clinton for a while,

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Speaker 7: and then later oddly between Blair and Bush. But this

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01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 7: is a real problem. There are things we need from

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Speaker 7: the USA, you know, including domestic defensive security in Europe

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 7: at a time when Europe is very febrile, but also

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01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 7: trade deals which we hope for and we're hoping to

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01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 7: get preferentially from the USA. If I were Donald Trump,

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Speaker 7: I would say, no, stuff it. You know, why should I.

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01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 7: You are the far left. Let's disagree with him about that,

1657
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 7: But that's what he thinks. You are the far left,

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01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 7: and you tried to stop me becoming president. Why should

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01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 7: I have everything to do with you? And let's not

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Speaker 7: pretend that Donald Trump isn't the kind of man who

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Speaker 7: doesn't take things personally.

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Speaker 2: No, precisely. Hey, I know we'll talk again before the

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Speaker 2: budget itself. But I was reading yesterday a report into

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Speaker 2: one of the things they're looking at doing, these workers'

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01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,560
Speaker 2: rights and stuff like that, and what text is it?

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Speaker 2: Did They concluded that the workers' rights changes are going

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Speaker 2: to cost about five billion pounds. It may or may

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01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: not improve things to the tune of three billion pounds.

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01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 2: So therefore there's a material cost of the economy. How

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01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 2: much Angst and slash excitement slash nervousness is there towards

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Speaker 2: the budget and what may or may not unfold on

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Speaker 2: budget day.

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Speaker 7: This enormous nervousness whose nobody trusts a party the government anymore,

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01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 7: enormous nervousness that simply the things they said before they

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Speaker 7: were elected will play no part whatsoever in the budget

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01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 7: and the things we will heard trickling through already. Two

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Speaker 7: things particularly which really got my goat. One was that

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Speaker 7: more people from the middle rank of tax in the

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01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 7: taxation would be brought into the top rank. That is

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01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 7: exactly the wrong thing to do and exactly what they

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01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 7: said they wouldn't do. So you're going to raise the

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Speaker 7: taxes for that proportion of the country which is best

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Speaker 7: placed to spend more money in kick stuff the economy,

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Speaker 7: which is still very sluggish. And the second thing was,

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Speaker 7: and you could predict this, that whilst there's going to

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Speaker 7: be a rayed on pensions, the pensions that are raided

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Speaker 7: will not be those in the public sector. And those

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Speaker 7: are the people who voted for labor, of course, but

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01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 7: there are also the people who who works fewer hours,

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01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 7: get paid more money, take more time off and sit

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Speaker 7: and have longer holidays. And have better pensions, so it

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01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 7: will assascerbate the divide between the public sector and the

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Speaker 7: private sector.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but most excellent weekend. We'll see you next Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate I very much. Rod a little out of Britain

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Speaker 2: for us this morning, sixteen to nine.

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Speaker 1: The Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks A b.

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Speaker 2: In away from nine just before we leave Britton offcom.

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Speaker 2: Who are the the people who ever see what's going

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01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 2: on on social media and the media in general. There's

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01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 2: a clear connection there words not mine, between the violent disorder.

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01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: These are the riots of course, and the raids and

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01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 2: the beatings and all the other nonsense that went on

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Speaker 2: out of Southport because all the misinformation flew mainly on

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Speaker 2: social media. But there was a clear connection they've decided,

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Speaker 2: between the violent disorder and the posts on social media

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Speaker 2: and the messaging app. The government's asked the regulator to

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01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: consider how illegal content and disinformation spread. While the answer

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01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 2: was on a feed and off it went DWN Melanie

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Speaker 2: Dawes as the person who does all of this sort

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Speaker 2: of thing for the government. It spread widely and quickly

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Speaker 2: following those stabbings in Southport, most online services did take

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Speaker 2: rapid action, but the responses of some firms were quote uneven,

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01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 2: demonstrating the role of the virality and the algorithmic recommendations

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Speaker 2: can play in driving divisive narratives. There was a person

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Speaker 2: that was the woman the other wife of the is

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Speaker 2: he a counselor. He was a Tory counselor and his

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Speaker 2: wife the other day got thrown in jail for two

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Speaker 2: or three years. And you wouldn't look at her twice,

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't. You wouldn't think just a normal, regular, everyday

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Speaker 2: woman from the suburbs. And she was telling people online

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Speaker 2: to burn houses. And it's just like she went mental.

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01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 2: And she went mental because she was obviously on some

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01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 2: weird algorithm who told her to go mental, and she thought,

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01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 2: I know, I think I just might go mental, and

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01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,640
Speaker 2: off she went. So she's now in jail and got

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01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 2: plenty of time to think about it. They played a

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01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 2: big part in fanning the flame of disorder. There should

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01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: be accountability where platforms allowed dangerously to visit content to

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01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 2: go unchecked. Well, you know, it's the same old argument.

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01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 2: All they've done is work out that social media is

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01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 2: dangerous and something needs to be done. But of course,

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01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: as per usual, nothing is has or was unfortunately turn

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01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 2: away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mast, Breakfast with the Ranger of a villa.

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01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 2: Light away from nine. I officially became sick and tired

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01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 2: of the Andrew Bailey story. Yesterday, Laby were trying to

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01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: relook at litigated and question time for a moment there,

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01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: I won't bore you with the details. For a moment

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01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 2: there it looked like they could potentially if you drew

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01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 2: a long enough bow beyond to something between the first

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01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: second and third transaction between Bailey and the so called

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01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 2: offended person, and it sort of fell apart at that

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01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 2: particular point. So I thought, I am sick and tired

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01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 2: of this, and we've got more important things to think about. Then, unfortunately,

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01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: Winston Peter stood up and he started accusing Ashaveral of

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01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: having some relative by marriage. There's a person by marriage

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01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 2: really a relative. So if you're talking about conflicts of interests,

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01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: So if you haven't followed the story, and it's probably

1751
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 2: not worth following because anything is going anywhere. But it

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01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 2: all goes back to Asha Viral and her business chasing

1753
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 2: around Casey Costello, New Zealand First MP and the heated

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01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 2: tobacco products and the tax treatment and the two hundred

1755
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 2: million dollars. So anyway, my suspicion is Peters is trying

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01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 2: to run interference by accusing Verel of having a thus

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01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 2: unnamed relative somewhere in the public service that should have

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01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: declared a conflict of interest when it comes to dealing

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01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: with paperwork on the business of tobacco products, and they

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01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 2: have not declared. Apparently this particular conflict of interest in

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01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 2: the Labour Party argues because the persons so far removed

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01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: from it, there's no point. Part of their argument also

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01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,839
Speaker 2: is New Zealand such a small country. Everybody knows everybody,

1764
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 2: which is not technically true, but it can be.

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01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 9: It's like you can name a hotelco two degrees.

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 2: This is very true, and then we can we come

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01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 2: to the person. So the person is a relative of

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01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 2: Viral's by marriage. My question is does that make them

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01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 2: a real relative?

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Speaker 9: And there's always a bit confusing, isn't it so like

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01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 9: say your brother, yeah, is married, and then so that

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01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 9: woman is your sister in law?

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01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 10: Correct, But then what about if she's got.

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01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 9: A brother, who is that person to you? Nothing apparently correct,

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01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 9: even though you want to sort of say, well, he's

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01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 9: kind of my brother in law.

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01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 2: Well, he's not kind of your brother in law. He's nothing.

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01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 9: Is he related to you by marriage?

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01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 16: Though? No?

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01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 2: Well then directly and hen silized the problem. The fact

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01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 2: that her relative is a person who was married to

1782
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:30,959
Speaker 2: someone makes.

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01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 12: It to me.

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Speaker 9: I mean what I was asking is are you your

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01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 9: own grandfather's uncle? I think is what I was trying

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01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 9: to get.

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01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 2: It isn't everybody? Is the answer to that? Surely five

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01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 2: minutes away from nine.

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01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: Now with the Wews your Home of Sports and Nutrition, were.

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01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: You laughing at your joke so much you didn't do

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01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 2: that properly.

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01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 9: I pushed all the buttons at once just to see

1793
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 9: what would happen to.

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01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 2: Do it again.

1795
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

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01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 2: Him was where pay real good money for that? We

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01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 2: need to treat them with a element of respect.

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01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 9: Sometimes we play it three times, sometimes we don't really

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01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 9: play it at all. You know, swings around it us.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what we call it Zimbi mix and match contract.

1801
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 1: It's trending now with You're a Home of Sports and Nutritionia.

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01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 2: Today they're getting value for money and that's how it

1803
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 2: works now.

1804
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: Tim Wolves trending now with Chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy

1805
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: all year round.

1806
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: That's what we do when we want them to renew

1807
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 2: tim Wolves at campaign event in Michigan, so they lament

1808
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 2: do the Dems because they're a bit serious about themselves

1809
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 2: about Trump's language and his personal attacks. And he calls

1810
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: count all the shit and he's calling somebody else and

1811
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 2: more on or an idiot. Anyway, then we come to

1812
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: this which has been viewed now thirty two million times,

1813
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 2: so it's officially gone viral. Well, look, I'm not going

1814
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 2: to waste all the time I'm in.

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01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 10: I'm going to talk about his running meat.

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01:27:55,640 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 22: He's running me Elon Musk, So, seriously, where is Senator Vance?

1817
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 22: After he got asked the simplest question in the world

1818
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 22: at the debate, did Donald Trump lose the twenty twenty election?

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01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: And after two weeks he finally said, no, he didn't.

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Speaker 10: That's where he's been spending his time.

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01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 12: But that's it.

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01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 22: So look, Elon's on that stage jumping around, skipping like

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01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 22: a dipshit on these things.

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01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 20: You know it.

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01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 2: To be honest, I find that appealing?

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01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 9: Is that for I think there's a nice down home

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01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 9: field today, just there's an extra syllable in there.

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01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 7: He is.

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01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 2: I actually quite I wouldn't elect him, but as a

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01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 2: football coach and a guy in a school, I think

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01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 2: he's probably a cool guy. And at that level you

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01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: probably think he's you know, he's okay. Anyway, here's the

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01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 2: point of all of that. Somebody said to me yesterday.

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01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 2: I think they're probably right. If you look at your

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01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 2: Elon's and your Trump's and you Tucker Carlson's and all

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01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 2: those right Lenas at the moment, one of the things

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01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 2: that they seem to have in common, as they're having

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01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 2: a good time, often you will see them laughing, perhaps

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01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 2: insanely because many of them are.

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Speaker 9: But nightly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I actually it's like a dictator exactly. They're

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01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 2: having a good time. The Dems are not having a

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01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,919
Speaker 2: good time. The Dims look miserable, and in that might ultimately,

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01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 2: of course, be their problem. That's more than enough of me, ah,

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01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 2: and so I say all of us, and we'll be

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow morning from six as always, Happy Days.

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