1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Now to these alcohol changes where to have a clearer 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: licensing process the best, but that people from out of 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: town can't make objections of profession. Also easy to open 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: for special events, which I think is good. Sam McKinnon, 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: head of Advocacy at Hospital New Zealanders with a Sam Morning. 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: So what do we have here in totality a tinker 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: or a game changer? 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a step in the right direction. 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: These changes are reinstating some of the rules that were 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: in place for force and changes that the last government made, 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: and so enabling making sure that your objectors actually have 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: an interest in your community. We've had cases of you know, 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: based in Auckland making objections for licenses and Tomorrow and 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: Viicago with no understanding as a model that a venue 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: players in their community or the measures they have in 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: place to run a great venue. 17 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: And no one up to this point is thought that's mental. 18 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: Well, certainly the industry has thought that that's at a 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: little bit crazy, but so I guess in that sense, 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: it's great to see that the government's been listening and 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: has made these changes. 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Good because it came out of the hell up the thing. 23 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: For me, I don't know if you're interested in that. 24 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: But Eli Williams and as helicopter, the people in Wanaka 25 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: and WAYHICKI telling them he couldn't land in a suburban orklane. 26 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: I think, what's going on together? That's mad? What about 27 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: these sporting events? That's all good, isn't it? 28 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I think for us that provides 29 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: a bit more opportunity around some other events might be 30 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: able to be our host and venues when they're run 31 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: on the other side of the world outside of our 32 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: licensing hours. So we've already run every Rugby World Cup 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: run through a legislative process to basically stop each individual 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: venue having to apply for a special license. But this 35 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: opens the door for FIFA World Cup Finals or I 36 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: guess other events. At the minister's discress. 37 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: Do we still have town to town, region to region 38 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: issues to deal with or not? 39 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean one of our key challenges around the 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: licensing system is just the inconsistent interpretations of what the 41 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: rules actually say within the Saal and Spy of Alcohol Act, 42 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: and so you kind of end up, depending on where 43 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: you are in the country, you might have your local 44 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: authority to determine a different instead of rulings around the license, 45 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: So that doesn't support investment in hospitality, doesn't support a 46 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: thriving hospitality center. So that's that's something we'd like to 47 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: have looked at. 48 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Next, give me an out of ten, ten it was 49 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: perfect one, it was a bust. 50 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: Well, look, the zero percent stuff is really positive for 51 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: us as well, so overall probably is seven. The zero 52 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: percent stuff means that we're able to serve zero percent 53 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: beers to satisfy low alcohol requirements, which currently they kind 54 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: of salm to a bit of a gray area. So 55 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: there's a range of newers here. They all support hospitality. 56 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: We're played overall with the direction of travel. 57 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: Have you ever tasted a zero percent beer that you 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: genuinely recommend? 59 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean Garrett Project Tiny is always go to 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: for me. 61 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Ok, Garage Project Tiny. I'm going to get a bit 62 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: of that action this weekend. Sam top Tip Sam McKinnon, 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: the head of advocacy at Hospitality in New Zealand. For 64 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news 65 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: Too Set B from six am weekdays, or follow the 66 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.