1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: And with us now out of Australia, is our correspondent 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Murray Old timers. 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 2: Looko an afternoon, Now it's on for tomorrow morning, is 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: it sure? Is nine o'clock the Liberals will go into 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: their room and Canberra there are fifty one people will 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: vote on the leadership, twenty eight MPs, twenty three senators 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: in the Upper House and they'll be voting for Angus 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: Taylor or Susan Lee or who knows there could be 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: a third person put their hand up. The latest News poll, 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: I guess has brought this on the Liberals fifteen percent 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: for Nationals, their coalition partners three and one. Nation is 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: twenty seven. Susan Lee the least popular Liberal leader in 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: thirty years. And I mean the optics have that. You 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: and I have discussed this before. Here's the image of 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: a right wing fifty nine year old man Rhodes scholar 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: rolling in cash about to knife the first female Liberal leader. 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: It's not a good look, particularly for a party that 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: was abandoned by women, by young people and by migrants 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: at the last election. So look, it's a choicement. And 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: you know already Angus Taylor is being hit about like 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: a political pennata in parliament. He's just getting belted left 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: right in the center. Yesterday he was described as a 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: man born with a silver foot in his mouth. He's 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 2: failed in every political portfolio he's ever had, wants everything 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: in a silver platter, and there was this thinger. Just 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: when you think he can't go any lower on economic credibility, 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: he says, hang on hold by show today. So how 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: you're going to expect lots more of this if Angus 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: Taylor gets up. 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Do you think that they're going to I mean, at 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: the moment, from what I understand having read about this, 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: it looks like the numbers are kind of a bit split, 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: and no one's really got the numbers to be able 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: to be sure of themselves. 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 2: Very close, very cloyeah. 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: So surely, though, if you're going to go through this 37 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: drama in public, you're going to pack Angus Taylor, because 38 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: otherwise you're just going to have to go through this 39 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: drama all over again some other time and get rid 40 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: of her. 41 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: It's terrible, isn't it. I Mean, it's like it's like 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: the Marx Brothers are running this, you know, or Donald 43 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: Duck or someone. It's it's just bizarre. I've never seen 44 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: anything like it, and I dare say no one else's 45 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: watched politics over here has ever seen anything like it either. 46 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: It's just as shambles. The last time these two stood 47 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: up Lee and Taylor, she won by twenty nine votes 48 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: to twenty five. And Taylor's put out a video this morning. 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: He's in a white shirt with the sleeves rolled up 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: and you know there's a paddock behind him. He's a 51 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: country He's a country member from New South Wales. You know, 52 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: Australia's in trouble. He says, Labour's got you. Failed government, 53 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: Liberal parties lost its way and I'm here to help. Well, 54 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: you know, there's lots of comments on the bottom of 55 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: this video that he's released, quote fantastic, great move, well 56 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 2: done Angus unquote. But that's his most famous gaff. It's 57 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: what he wrote himself by accident, on his own social 58 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: media account, after he posted about something he had done. 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: He said, fantastic, great move, well done Angus. Well is 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: this the guy? What is the alternate Prime Minister? For 61 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: God's sake? Really? Well? Yeah, I mean laughable, laughable the 62 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: picckle they find themselves in. 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: Now, I see the Israeli presidents off to Melbourne. 64 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: Yet he's arrived in Melbourne. That's right. He's a government 65 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: house this afternoon. Very few details, as you might expect, 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: of his itinery have been publicly released, but they did 67 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: go to the campus of Melbourne University and get rid 68 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: of some graffiti that called for the death of herds 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: of has have been sprayed on a wall. He's given 70 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: an interview I think the Channel seven over here, and 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: he was talking about an Australian look a frightening level 72 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: of anti Semitism. But he said, look, most Australians, as 73 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: you and I both know, most Kiwis would be very 74 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: broadly supportive of Jewish people. You might not like the 75 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: policies of the Israeli government, but that doesn't make you 76 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: any Semitic. You know, you can support love and put 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: your arms around Jewish people, particularly the poor buggers. He 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: lost people at bondaib I mean, you know. But it's 79 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: been a very controversial visit. As we know, we had 80 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: the appalling scenes on Monday night in Sydney in the 81 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: streets of CBD Sydney calls for a very urgent inquiry 82 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: into the level of violence meeting out by police. I 83 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: mean the Lord Mayor of Sydney is saying it was 84 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: just disgraceful, very disturbing, vision unhinged, say critics, far too aggressive, 85 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: So look a political mess for the government. But Albaneze 86 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: is sticking to a script, saying, so I was welcome, 87 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: was here to support the Jewish people of Sydney and 88 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: Australia who were grieving the loss of those people at 89 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: Bondai Bet Moz. 90 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: What's this business with the serial rapist? How'd they find them? 91 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: Extraordinary stuff? This? Basically it's advanced level DNA. I looked 92 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: it up just ten minutes ago. The first time DNA 93 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: was used we upstand to catch and prosecute successfully a 94 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 2: sexual offender was the late nineteen eighties, about forty years ago. 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: And that's what they've done. Now they've used that original DNA, 96 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: but they've tracked down this fellow. He's a seventy seven 97 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: year old guy and it's alleged he was sexually assaulting 98 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: young girls thirty years ago. The case was opened by 99 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: cold case police here in Sydney in twenty twenty two, 100 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: So these crimes go back thirty years. What they basically 101 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: do when police look at DNA traditionally you look at 102 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: twenty one separate strands or markers they usually examined for 103 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: DNA screening. Police have used a new technique that basically 104 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: allows them to search hundreds of thousands of DNA markers, 105 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: which can then be ideed as far removed as people 106 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: who are fourth cousins. Wow, so they've put all this 107 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: I guess they're using AI. They've put all this through 108 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: the computer system compares DNA records against public genealogy databases, 109 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: and police have said, Bengo, he's a guy who's a 110 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: relative of the accused fellow who went knocked on his 111 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: door and now he's in custody, accused of ten or 112 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: eleven separate sexual crimes. As I say, going back many 113 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: many years. Basically it's DNA on testing on steroids. 114 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: Interesting and Moz thanks very much. Appreciate it. 115 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: Man. 116 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: Look for Mario Old's Australia correspondent for more from Hither 117 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to news talks. It'd be 118 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.