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Speaker 1: Good wealth.

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Speaker 2: What a bloody dream?

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Speaker 1: What a dream? Welcome along to the unnamed podcast. It's Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: the fifteenth of October twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: What was it called?

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Speaker 1: It used to be called the Matt and Jerry Daily

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Speaker 1: Bespoke Podcast. Right?

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Speaker 3: Is that more or less catchy than the unnamed podcast?

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Speaker 1: I quite like the unnamed podcast? Man, Yeah, hey, quick

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Speaker 1: roll call Jeremy Wells prison. You're gonna start with yourself.

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Speaker 3: I am okay, Jeremy Wells prison. Yeah, how else you

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Speaker 3: got Mania? Stuart prison?

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Speaker 4: Wait?

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Speaker 3: Hang on, this is our role calls with you to

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Speaker 3: your own.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind what order. I'm happy to go last.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not sure that I think what you do

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Speaker 1: is you go you go around clockwise. That's what you

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Speaker 1: do now?

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Speaker 4: I thought the teacher at the front of class reads

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Speaker 4: out a whole list of names, and then you just go,

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Speaker 4: oh here or prison?

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Speaker 3: Or is this a sound off more than a roll calls?

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Speaker 3: More of a sound off? All of them? In that case,

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Speaker 3: you're gotta.

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Speaker 4: Go sec Okay, Meshy present, All.

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Speaker 3: Right, mate, don't make it all about yourself. Manyah? Also here,

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Speaker 3: anyone else?

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Speaker 2: Paula Bennett here, Paul Morning lads.

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Speaker 1: Bree Thomas are welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: God, this is a dream. I've listened to this bloody

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Speaker 2: podcast for a long long time. One of the best.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, you would have listened to the talking about the

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Speaker 1: Matt and Jerry Daily Bespoke podcast. This is the unnamed

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Speaker 1: podcast New this is this is all new, all new.

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Speaker 5: Good good that you guys got me on to get

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Speaker 5: the ratings up. So yeah, happy, happy to help out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you've got a book out, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I hate to judge a book by its cover, do it,

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Speaker 1: you know, but in the situation I'm going to I

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Speaker 1: love it because what I wanted to know was it's

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Speaker 1: called unapologetically me. Yes, and what you've done is you've

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Speaker 1: crossed out so it's apologetically me, but then you've written

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Speaker 1: one again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you know you're one of the first people

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Speaker 2: to ask me what that means.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 5: It essentially means, I think, Jeremy, over the course of

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Speaker 5: my life, I was unapologetically me, and then I'd apologize

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Speaker 5: for who I was, and then I'd go back and forth.

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Speaker 5: And I tried to convey that in you know, the

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Speaker 5: well put together cover of that book.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise, like metaphorical illustration. You've done there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, is that what it is?

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Speaker 1: Not? Almost it is what you've done. I like it.

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Speaker 1: Would you describe that as metaphorical illustration? It's not illustration

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Speaker 1: that because there's words.

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Speaker 3: Is it a similar it's not definitely using similarly.

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Speaker 1: I know what a similar is. It's using like or

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Speaker 1: airs as a comparison. For example, you would say he

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Speaker 1: looked at me like a snake looks at a frog

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Speaker 1: before it eats it. Right, you know that's that's or

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Speaker 1: or using airs as a comparison, whereas a metaphor is.

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Speaker 3: When you say you're saying something is something else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: An example of a metaphor.

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Speaker 1: It's more it's more direct a metaphor.

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Speaker 5: We want we want a metaphor pearl jam metaphor for

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Speaker 5: this new podcast, the new.

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Speaker 3: Podcast m h it's a mixed bag?

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Speaker 1: Is it is a mixed bag? Would you say that

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Speaker 1: is a mixed bag of metaphor?

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Speaker 2: It's like a road with no destination.

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Speaker 3: If you took a look at If you use like,

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Speaker 1: You could use like in that situation.

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Speaker 3: Or you could say it is and then it's a metaphor.

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Speaker 1: People will say, well, such and such as a metaphor

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Speaker 1: for life. So it's like it's it's not comparing something,

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Speaker 1: it's saying you're right, it's saying that something definitely is something.

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Speaker 1: This stification as well. That's the other problem that.

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Speaker 3: I've gone for you. This podcast is the licorice all

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Speaker 3: sorts of podcasts. You never know what you're going to

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Speaker 3: get and chances are you won't enjoy it. But couldn't

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Speaker 3: you have said like that would be a similar do

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Speaker 3: you know what's underrated? What's an allegory?

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Speaker 1: And the category is a story using like using characters

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Speaker 1: Russian Revolution. Yeah totally okay, So it's a story really

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Speaker 1: about the Russian Revolution, but an allegory is using other

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 5: In university, I took a I was forced to take

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Speaker 5: a course in grammar, syntax and punctuation, and I tried

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Speaker 2: So this is bringing back a lot of memories for me.

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Speaker 1: Did you hook up with the professor? Did?

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Speaker 2: I tried? He wasn't into it, so I failed that class.

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Speaker 3: Did you at least learn the difference between sort of

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Speaker 5: No. I learned what was appropriate and not appropriate to

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Speaker 1: I want to know more about this professor because weird

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Speaker 1: as I've always wondered this, if you go to university,

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Speaker 1: obviously both the lecturer slash tutor and the student are

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Speaker 1: of consenting age. It's not like hooking up with a

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Speaker 1: teacher at school, which is very wrong, which is generally

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Speaker 1: not right. Although look, I have heard of some teachers

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Speaker 1: I know, but I have heard of some people hooking

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Speaker 4: I think a blanket just no go, It's fine with that, Jerry.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if these people.

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Speaker 5: Are a mature age student. We had one of those

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Speaker 3: Second year, seventh form sort of such would have been six,

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Speaker 5: And he, no joke, had a beard down to his

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Speaker 2: Forced him to wear the school uniform.

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Speaker 1: But why was he at school.

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Speaker 2: Because he was trying to get his high school to ploy.

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Speaker 3: Well, how old is he? I was speaking nineteen?

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Speaker 2: But no, I reckon he was like forty eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but just do it at home, I know.

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Speaker 5: And he'd walk around class and no one would sit

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Speaker 1: That's only in Australia with that happened.

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Speaker 2: I felt so bad for the guy.

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Speaker 1: That's horrific. Are you serious?

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Speaker 2: I'm dead serious.

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Speaker 1: That's such a weird thing to do. Just don't you

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Speaker 1: don't need to go to school to get your school stuff?

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Speaker 2: You just do online.

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Speaker 1: By correspondent just about to take his own kids at school.

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Speaker 4: How were the people that you were saying that were

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Speaker 4: hooking up with teachers ago that you thought was generally

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Speaker 1: I know a guy who hooked up with his female teacher.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I know a couple of people who've hooked

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Speaker 1: they were eighteen, Like, what's the problem with that? Sure,

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Speaker 1: And I don't think she took them for any classes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that a metaphor?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a few lessons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well but she actually literally did. So that's not

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Speaker 2: You going through that was she hot.

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Speaker 4: I'm having lead your book here. I now understand what

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Speaker 4: you've because you've gone tales from my perfectly imperfected sorry,

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Speaker 4: tales from my perfectly imperfect life and then relating back

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Speaker 4: from my perfectly imperfect life.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you find I was getting theirs. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was a chance I was getting there before I

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Speaker 4: No, you brought that up again though that wasn't really

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Speaker 1: serious question, and that is, Bree, why did you write

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: And what started the idea about thinking about writing a book.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'll be honest with you, Jeremy. I needed the money.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough.

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Speaker 5: I just recently bought a house and needed to pay

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Speaker 3: You have made any money off the book, then?

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Speaker 2: Is it not a not a cent? I'm actually in debt. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That backfired on me bad, nah, I because I was

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Speaker 5: told told her no, I a bunch of times and

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Speaker 5: I said to her I've never managed to read a book.

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Speaker 2: And I mean she was a bit offended, which fair enough.

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Speaker 5: And then I kind of thought about it and I

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Speaker 5: I have to get into the nitty gritty, dirty laundry

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Speaker 1: So are you the first person to write a book

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Speaker 2: I could be, I could be.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is it weird sitting down and just thinking about your

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Speaker 3: whole life and then having to write it, because I imagine

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Speaker 3: you would have had to sit down and think about

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Speaker 3: everything that's ever happened to you, which is not something

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Speaker 3: that many people like to do.

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Speaker 5: Nah, was the worst experience Ever's really hard writing a book.

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Speaker 5: It's real difficult because all the things you'd push way down,

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Speaker 5: which we all have those things, you know, we're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to talk about that or think about

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Speaker 5: that again, Tea, that's what you have to talk about

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Speaker 5: and then put on a piece of paper.

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Speaker 2: So it was a full on experience.

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Speaker 5: But I've gotten a lot out of it too, Like

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Speaker 5: I feel like it's forced some conversations with people in

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Speaker 5: I'm grateful for that.

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Speaker 3: It's anything in the book that someone set you up about,

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't because this heaman's on radio all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Change names because there's yeah, there's certain stories where I

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Speaker 5: Know work, would it be if you just happened to

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Speaker 5: And at the end of one term, I was packing

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Speaker 5: and no shit, I felt like Wally fucking Wonka because

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Speaker 5: I had this master key where I could open any room,

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Speaker 3: Where'd you go?

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Speaker 5: I told us, select group of girls in the boarding house,

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Speaker 5: we'd like go to the pool at nighttime sometimes with

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Speaker 4: So that was a reliable kind of silence, so I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we passed it on after when we left, when

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Speaker 5: we graduated, we passed it on to a group of

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Speaker 1: But I love that. That's exactly the type of thing

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Speaker 1: that you should do at boarding school because there's very

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Speaker 1: much I went to boarding school as well, and there's

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Speaker 1: very much a us versus their mentality that's going on totally.

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Speaker 1: It's the students it's a lord of the flies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you are.

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Speaker 1: It's the students versus the teachers and the tutors. But

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Speaker 1: the tutors, as you said, are the that they've got

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Speaker 1: Some of them have only just got out of school.

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Speaker 1: Some of them in our schools or schools that I

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Speaker 1: they can remember what it used to be like, and

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Speaker 2: I know what you're going through. I want to know

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Speaker 2: what you've got to expel for.

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Speaker 1: It's a bloody long story. We got time. It's a

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Speaker 1: long story. It involves a cap of hash oil and

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Speaker 1: the great story. It's a long like a bloody good story.

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Speaker 1: It's a long story.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I think you could probably fill in the

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Speaker 1: They can't. I guess, yeah, it's I mean, will take

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Speaker 1: what it is. Welcome back. We've got brief Thomas on

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Speaker 1: on this show. It's nice to have you, Bree. Great

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Speaker 1: to be here, and we're just talking about borning school.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that you're at boarding school for four years.

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Speaker 1: Which school were you at in Australia.

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Speaker 5: I was at a very prestigious school, Saint Peter's Lutheran College, Lutheran,

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Speaker 5: which we weren't Lutheran, but it was I forced my

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Speaker 5: I was playing a lot a high level sport, and

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Speaker 5: I grew up in rural Queensland and my mum was

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Speaker 5: send me to boarding school and then I'll be there

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Speaker 5: for the training.

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Speaker 1: I live there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, did you like it? It was good and bad points,

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Speaker 5: good and bad points. I feel like those last special

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Speaker 5: last couple of years of high school looked pretty tough

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Speaker 5: for anyone because it's quite stressful, so not having your

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Speaker 2: But I got into quite a bit of trouble well, it's.

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Speaker 1: Hard not to because the kinds of things that you

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Speaker 1: a was it a strict boarding school.

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Speaker 5: It was pretty strict day like the boarding The head

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Speaker 5: of the boarding school really didn't like me.

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Speaker 1: One.

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Speaker 2: I was hooking up with her son behind her back,

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Speaker 5: I thought she didn't know until the very last couple

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Speaker 5: causing havoc at that place. At one point, I pulled

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Speaker 5: you won't you one, I said, yeah, I will. And

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Speaker 5: I turned this fire hose on and I didn't realize.

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Speaker 2: How strong it would be.

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Speaker 5: It blew every picture off the wall and just soaked

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Speaker 5: everything in the room inside.

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Speaker 2: Inside, it was inside, it was inside. I was naughty.

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Speaker 1: You're crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like a cage animal.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're crazy, I thought. When you first

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Speaker 5: But it was like no, no, you're inside, yeah, inside

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Speaker 3: The seventh form was at my school because it was

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Speaker 1: What was good?

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Speaker 3: So you if you got to school and the seventh

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Speaker 3: nothing but time to think about dumb shit. I did

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Speaker 3: before I was there, the seventh formers were brewing beer

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Speaker 3: This little home brew kit sat Gibbon's College and myro

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Speaker 3: and the matrons founder and they were all right, what

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Speaker 5: That's so that's brilliant, way better than you know, getting suspended.

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Speaker 2: That's a real life lesson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, wow, that was That was like President

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Speaker 3: Warden stuff.

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Speaker 1: On. Yeah. My boarding schools that I went to, the

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Speaker 2: Was a huge boarding school, well huge.

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Speaker 1: Not even that big, but I think there were maybe

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Speaker 1: it was very much teachers versus pupils. And we had

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Speaker 1: seventh form or year thirteens, the two biggest year thirteens

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, it just was and at that

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Speaker 1: main reason the pillaring squad would be called into action.

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Speaker 1: Then the pillaring squad would be summons to the front

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Speaker 1: would say, for example, Menie Stuart, you've been caught stealing

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Speaker 1: We can't have people stealing from other people. We need

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Speaker 1: And in our house, in our day room, we had

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Speaker 1: It was mainly the count. It was mainly the house

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Speaker 1: not want to be embarrassed.

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Speaker 3: That would be here and sounds called pillaringloring. We had

447
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Speaker 3: dorm raids. Did you have dorm raids? So this would

448
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Speaker 3: be when the seventh if you've done something to piss

449
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 3: the seventh formers off, or any older form that'd come

450
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Speaker 3: through in the middle of the night and they'd put

451
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: soap bars in their rugby socks and they just whack

452
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Speaker 3: you with the soap bars, come through and then and

453
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Speaker 3: didn't disappear off into the night. And if you ever

454
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 3: locked your door because of it, they'd find a copy

455
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Speaker 3: of the key come back the next day. Even yeah,

456
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: because if you're lying in bed under a blanket. They're

457
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Speaker 3: gont a soap bar and a rugby sock. Doesn't leave

458
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Speaker 3: a bruise or anything. Just scares the pass out here

459
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Speaker 3: in the middle of the night.

460
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Speaker 2: This is a great ad for boarding schools, isn't it.

461
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Speaker 1: Well, I understand things have changed. My son's about to

462
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Speaker 1: go to boarding school next year. He's you know, he

463
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Speaker 1: wants to go much like you. Yeah, it was not

464
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Speaker 1: a I mean I was forced to go to boarding school.

465
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Speaker 1: But he genuinely has always wanted to go to boarding school.

466
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Speaker 5: God knows why why does he want to go?

467
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Speaker 1: Hate my partner?

468
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Speaker 3: He'll think the way I thought that it was just

469
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 3: going to be like a sleepover with your mates forever.

470
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 3: You know, this would be fun to just hang out

471
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Speaker 3: with all my mates. I was like, you grew up

472
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Speaker 3: in like, you know, a little small town. I was like,

473
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Speaker 3: this would be great. I'll be around heaps of people.

474
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 3: Then after the first year, I was like, actually, I'm

475
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Speaker 3: not allowed to go anywhere. I'm not allowed to do anything.

476
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: As I said, dudes have beaten me up with soap

477
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Speaker 3: bars and socks.

478
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Speaker 2: You're like a prisoner.

479
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Speaker 3: The eriction inspection was the other one, so an hour

480
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Speaker 3: after lights off, an hour after lights off, the seventh

481
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: form would flick the lights back on right erection inspection.

482
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Speaker 3: Everyone has to jump up and stand at the end

483
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Speaker 3: of the room in the hallway there.

484
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we know what this is about.

485
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: And if we can tell.

486
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: That's really masking.

487
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Speaker 3: Because all that would happen is you'd will be standing

488
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Speaker 3: there and then one of the kids would be standing

489
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Speaker 3: there with his pillow just starting in front of them.

490
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Speaker 4: Any ramifications for those that were pitching.

491
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Speaker 3: No, just just just artic humiliation be whacked off by

492
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Speaker 3: one of the seniors.

493
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: That's what happened in that situation.

494
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Speaker 4: So do you talk about all that stuff in your.

495
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Speaker 2: The first chapter? Yeah, no, I love it. No, you

496
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 2: were meant to tell us why you got expense.

497
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Speaker 3: I probably have to take another break, would we have to?

498
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Speaker 1: We do take a break and come back with that

499
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Speaker 1: at the moment. And more from Brie Welcome back. We've

500
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Speaker 1: got Bree Thomas on the the podcast. She's got a

501
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Speaker 1: new book out called Unapologetically Me. Tales from My Perfectly

502
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: Imperfect Life Come some tales from boarding school.

503
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's those stories are in the book.

504
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I ship myself the other day because

505
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 5: well sometimes it happens. You know it is no but

506
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 5: I was posting about the book for the first time

507
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 5: and the headboarding mistress who I mentioned before, who I

508
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 5: was dating her suh. I have not talked to her,

509
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 5: have not seen her, have not heard a peep out

510
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 5: of her since I left boarding school. And she comments

511
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 5: on the on theos and goes, I'm going to be

512
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 5: the first one out to go by. Oh my god,

513
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 5: all these stories about me and her son and all there.

514
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Speaker 5: So I can't wait to get a message from her

515
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 5: she's read it.

516
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys think girls boarding house

517
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: and they just think hot girl on girl action left,

518
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: right and center is what I think. You know, it's messy.

519
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: He's been if you gave an erection inspection to MESHI

520
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: right now, all buggary and they think they think lots

521
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: of girls pillow five.

522
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

523
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Speaker 5: Look, I don't want to break anyone's dreams, but it's

524
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 5: a bunch of weird country kids that are awkward and

525
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 5: you know, not all that attractive, just the weird.

526
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: Kind of kids kicking around.

527
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: I had to break disappointing. So I promised that I

528
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: would tell the my expulsion story. I mean, the thing

529
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Speaker 1: is I'm not super proud of this. It's not something

530
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm proud of. I need to say before you start

531
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Speaker 1: the story. Okay, all right, because it doesn't. It doesn't,

532
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: it's not.

533
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: There's a reason.

534
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Speaker 1: Very good, Are you sure you want to tell this?

535
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Speaker 3: There's a reason you're expelled for it?

536
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a reason is expelled. So we were

537
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Speaker 1: at the end of six form, at the end of

538
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Speaker 1: your twelve everybody at our school wanting to collegiate had

539
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: to go and do community experience, and you had a

540
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Speaker 1: choice of places that you went to go that you

541
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: could go to, and they were like a rest home

542
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: and a drug rehab center and just out of wanting

543
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: to Martin and then Lake Alice Mental Institution at the time,

544
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 1: which now has been shut down and amid allegations of

545
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: propriety and proper electro propriety, electro shock treatment, boom, all

546
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: sorts of crazy stuff.

547
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Speaker 3: They still do lobotomies, No, although every now and then

548
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 3: when I'm hungover, I wish they were.

549
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Speaker 1: I think they'd still do a bit of ect though

550
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: in places.

551
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

552
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: So anyway, we got to choose and I was like, okay,

553
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Speaker 1: because I was at boarding school. Some of them you

554
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: just went from boarding school and you went there for

555
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: the day and then came back. Others like the one

556
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Speaker 1: they did drug treatment center in Martin you went and

557
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Speaker 1: you stayed in and I motel for the week away

558
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Speaker 1: with no teachers.

559
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Speaker 3: By yourself.

560
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Speaker 2: Oh how good?

561
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: Why yourself with the other kids. So there were four

562
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Speaker 1: of us that you know went on this month.

563
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Speaker 2: And how old would you have been?

564
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Speaker 1: So? So? Year twelve? So I was? I was. I

565
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: was sixteen at the time.

566
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Speaker 3: End of year.

567
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Speaker 1: You've done your exams, everything's finished, and they're going to

568
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Speaker 1: put you up in a motel for you up in

569
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Speaker 1: a motel for I had a good year. I've been

570
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Speaker 1: sent down there because my mom had found some marijuana

571
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: on my top drawer. She was freaked out. She's like

572
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: getting away from the city and the drugs. She never tried.

573
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything, so she sent me down there anyway.

574
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Speaker 1: But I've been good to be like, no, no, I've

575
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Speaker 1: had an opportunity here and I had a good year,

576
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Speaker 1: and I hadn't smoked any drugs. I hadn't smoked pot

577
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: all year, and I hadn't really had the opportunity. Also

578
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: didn't want to fair enough, so I thought to myself, well,

579
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Speaker 1: now there's a good opportunity. Though the year is over,

580
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Speaker 1: there's going to be no teachers in the situation you're

581
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: in a motel with your mates. Tried to get myself

582
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: a tin he couldn't get a tinney. So someone said,

583
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: but I do have this cap of oil. So I

584
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: bought a cap of oil. Not what I wanted.

585
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: You remember how much you pay for it?

586
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was twenty bucks.

587
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 2: Okay, twenty bucks.

588
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Twenty bucks for a cap of hash oil. It's quite

589
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: a lot. That feels like a lot. Point what is

590
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: what is hash oil?

591
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: The Indian night is what it is?

592
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: Indian awful stuff. So anyway, I got the've got the

593
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: got the cap of oil. Went along, went along to

594
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: the couple of days of the rehab thing. It was

595
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: quite interesting, made some friends and and I actually I

596
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: enjoyed it and it was good. It was interesting to

597
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: meet a whole lot of people who had stories.

598
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: So you're going in there by day, then at night

599
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 3: you're on the hash oil.

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Speaker 1: That was my plan, you know, because because we were

601
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: because we'd finish at about six or seven, and then

602
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,239
Speaker 1: we'd have the whole night just hang out, you know,

603
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: and we got money for takeaways and all that sort

604
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: of stuff. It was perfec act.

605
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: Then of where you would go during the day, and.

606
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: I was keeping it sep so. So anyway, about day

607
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: three I hadn't actually had any of the of it.

608
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: We hadn't really had the opportunity because were coming back

609
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: a lot later than I thought. And maybe it was

610
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Speaker 1: day two, it was it was I can't remember which

611
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: day it was. And I'm just about to leave the

612
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: inn a drug treatment center and go back to the motel,

613
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: probably to you know, have this hash will and and

614
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: one of the patients comes up to me, one of

615
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: the patients, one of the people that were the things,

616
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: said I heard you've got some I heard you've got

617
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: some stuff. And I said no, and he goes, oh,

618
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: that's not what your mates told me. And I said, no,

619
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Speaker 1: I don't have anything, and he goes, you wouldn't lie

620
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: to me, would you. And this guy was reasonably not intimidating,

621
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: but everyone's inating when you're six, And I said no, no,

622
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: I don't, and he goes, well, you said that you've

623
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Speaker 1: you've got it with you. And unfortunately one of the

624
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: other guys who I was with maybe thought he was

625
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: doing me a favor or something by saying that I

626
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: had this when he was approached by one.

627
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: Of the people, or he would have talked to him

628
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: and he would have gone, I used to have a

629
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: crippling addiction of hash oil, and you're not gonna believe this, Jerry.

630
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: So I said no. Then he sort of was it

631
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: was reasonably coercive, and I was like, oh, and mildly threatening,

632
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: and and I sort of in the end I said, look,

633
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: I do, but I don't want to give it to you.

634
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: I was I did have morals. You know, I'm not

635
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: going to want to give drugs to a rehab person.

636
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in doing that. That was not my

637
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: that was not what I am, not my intent. In

638
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: the end, I just said I've got a bit much

639
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: for me, and I was like, I felt like I

640
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: was caught in a rock in a hard place. And

641
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: then then I put on the ground. I said, if

642
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: you want to pick it up, pick it up. I

643
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: don't want anything to do with it anymore. I don't

644
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: want to be beaten up for this. I don't want

645
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: to give it to you. I don't want money, I

646
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: don't want anything.

647
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: You were caught between a drug and a drug addict.

648
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: He picked it up. I went at home. He then

649
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: had it. So he did have it, yeah, and and

650
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: got wasted and started wandering around. He told people what

651
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: had happened, and he outed you, and then he told yeah,

652
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: he outed me to people. No, he outed me to

653
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: some of the other patients, who then told the administrators.

654
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: And so I went home feeling terrible and guilty, but thought, oh, well,

655
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: it's not my problem. What happens, happens is not my problem.

656
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: When I came in the next morning, I just people

657
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: were just looking at me, everybody, sixty patients there, all

658
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: just shaking their heads. I felt the hate. Oh my god,

659
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: I've never felt so much hate in my life, and

660
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: I've felt some hate. I'd never felt so much hate.

661
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: And then just nobody's talked to me, and I'd made

662
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: some friends and stuff, and I was like, oh no,

663
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Speaker 1: I just felt that, but like I was so hollow,

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Speaker 1: and I felt like all my inside had been carved

665
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: out awful feeling. And then we had our meeting and

666
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: morning meeting and they went through the Edmond and then

667
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: they said Jeremy could just stand up please, And I

668
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: stood up and I just went, oh, I know what's

669
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: happening here. And then they went, you know, would you

670
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: like to tell us what happened last night? And I said, was.

671
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: This in front of everyone or just the whole.

672
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: You don't know what they know though at the stage

673
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: I knew.

674
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: I knew, and I maybe one of the people had

675
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: said something to me or idiot, I can't remember. But

676
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: then I said, I said what I'd done. And then

677
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: and then they said, well, you understand what you've done.

678
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: You've put drugs into a drug rehab center. That's the

679
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: worst thing you could ever do. And I was like

680
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 1: I and I was in tears. I was in a

681
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: terrible way. And then one by one, about ten people

682
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: stood up and just gave me hell fair enough. Fuck

683
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: I got nailed, you know, and I've done a terrible thing,

684
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: And I knew. I felt so thin, I felt like

685
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: a piece of paper. It was just the their comments

686
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: were just going through every part of me. It was awful.

687
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that is a metaphor. I feel like that's unfair.

688
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 5: Though you were just a kid, you know, when you

689
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 5: had this dude who was like intimidating, like threatening you.

690
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, but I still had done what i'd done,

691
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: you did.

692
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: Take drugs, and there's sort of like one big rule

693
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: at the rehabs exactly.

694
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: Now there is. And then so then the guy who

695
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: was in charge of the rehab cinder. Then after the

696
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: humiliation of that meeting, then we had to sing Lord,

697
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: grant me serenity, the things I cannot change, change the

698
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: things I can, and the courage to make a difference,

699
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: make a difference.

700
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: Your sins washed away.

701
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, meanwhile I'm crying. And then took me into the

702
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: into his office and study and he said, look, I

703
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: understand these people can be increatibly persuasive.

704
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

705
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: And then he's like, you know, are you a drug addict?

706
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not a drug because I think you've probably

707
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: got some problems. Just straight onto the counseling and he said,

708
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: don't worry, I'm going to talk to the school. I've

709
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: got obviously tell the school what's happened, but I'm going

710
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: to talk to them. They'll understand what's going on. And

711
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: I thought they will not understand. And then about an

712
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: hour later, like the dipity headmaster turns up picks me up.

713
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: Mister Dickinson, who was just a tough, tough old man

714
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: and he drove me back to school and he did

715
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: not say a word. It was like forty minute drive,

716
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: not a single word. And then they put me into

717
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: the sanatorium, which was you know, the sick base. Ye

718
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: locked me in there, bought my food in and out.

719
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to see anyone, talk to anyone. They

720
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: went through my all my room, chit it for drugs

721
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff, fully sweept it swept

722
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: at nothing in there. Of course. Then my parents came

723
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: down to try and not get me expelled. And I

724
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: walked into the headmaster's office. There's my parents and they're

725
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: just shaking them. Oh my parents were they were so

726
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: oh my god. I can never forget the lock on

727
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: their face. It was horrific. And then the head master

728
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: said you've expelled, and I walked out, and I think

729
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: the head master assumed that my parents would then take

730
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: me home. My parents then said to me, well, you

731
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: knew the rules. You came down here. We gave you

732
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: one chance. You're on your own. Good luck. I hope

733
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: you don't let other people down like you've let us down.

734
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: And then they drove off there. I wasn't by myself.

735
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 3: They just love the motel room. No, no, no, because

736
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: that wasn't bloody Martin. But those guys were still there

737
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: at they were still at the bloody rehab center. And

738
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: then so I said to stay one more night in

739
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: the senatorium. And then and then a train ticket was

740
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: booked for me by the school.

741
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 2: Because not even your parents, they were just like.

742
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: They were gone. They flew back to Auckland. They were not.

743
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: And they left me in the car park just outside

744
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: the bloody head masters off they drove off in the

745
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: rental car.

746
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: Dramatic from the parents. They found weed once and then

747
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: they found weed twice.

748
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: Though it did they were practicing what they thought was

749
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: tough love. And then and then that was me. And

750
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: then I got a train back to talking and stay

751
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: with my friend for a couple of months. I got

752
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: a job.

753
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: That was it. So you didn't go back to school

754
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: after that?

755
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: No, Then it was school holidays because it was the

756
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: end of the year. And then I had school holidays

757
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: where I worked and stuff, and then at a dry cleaner.

758
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: And then and then.

759
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: You went to my dad.

760
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I'm stubborn. And I thought to myself,

761
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: you you get rid of me. I'm going to teach

762
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: you a lesson, and so I just didn't communicate with them.

763
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: I didn't want to communicate with them. I'm like, I'll

764
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: get a job, I'll be fine, thanks very much. I

765
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: had a great time. I actually had a great time

766
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: not living with him.

767
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 4: And then did you stumble across mikey ever soon after?

768
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: Oh that was a few years later, even worse, he

769
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: stumbled upon Mike Lane. Yeah, and actually, ironically, ironically, that's

770
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: done more damage to you than any drugs.

771
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Two weeks later I stumbled upon from and then my

772
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: father finally reached out and said, look, we want to

773
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: have a chat to you, and I was like, I

774
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if I want to talk

775
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: to you. Actually, I was like playing hard to get

776
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: He's like, come on.

777
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: How long did that go on for where you didn't

778
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: talk to him? And you were just like, no, I'm

779
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: all good school holiday.

780
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: So from probably the mid November I reckon, end of

781
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: mid November, I reckon. It was till January, till past

782
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: my birthday, till about mid end of January.

783
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: That's a long time.

784
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: A that's such an amazing origin story as to how

785
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 5: you met Mike. Mike Lane in the drug rehab center

786
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: and gave him the hash and then you ended up

787
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 5: working together.

788
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: It's wild.

789
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: So long to tell that story.

790
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: So will that story being your book, then.

791
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: It's going to sell more books than what wong.

792
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: Hey, Bri, thank you so much for coming in. Best

793
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: of luck with everything. I hope the book goes well.

794
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: Hope you sell millions and millions of copies.

795
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: It's the dream, that's the dream. Thanks so much for

796
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: having me.

797
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 5: This was a lot of fun, and now I know

798
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 5: probably too much about you, Jeremy, and way too much

799
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 5: about what was.

800
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: The direction direction inspector.

801
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: Well, you have to come back at some stage, and

802
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: then we have to get into some of this hot

803
00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: girl on girl actual.

804
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 5: I promise, I promise, if you guys get me back,

805
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 5: I'll tell you all the nitty nitty titty.

806
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: As I like to call it.

807
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: If the netty titties in the book, I will teach

808
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: myself how to read it.

809
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: I think we could get it back in tomorrow, tomorrow,

810
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: same time, same place.

811
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: Thanks, Thanks guys,