1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Economy. What can I tell you our good news? Consumer 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: credit demands up over eight percent year on year. New 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: mortgage lending's up thirty four percent, four hundred ninety one thousand. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Other side of the coin four hundred and ninety one 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: thousand behind on loans. Company liquidations also up sixteen percent. 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: Monica Lacey, Centric, Chief operating Officer, back with US Monica morning. 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: What would you call this? Would you call this a 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: mixed report or not? 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: Look, I think overall things are definitely starting to trend 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: in the right direction. Consumer areas have been down to 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: consecutive months now year on year, which is a really 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: good sign. But we're still seeing some volatility months to months, 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: so you know, we're not quite throw it yet, but 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: we're certainly heading in the right direction. 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: The liquidations I don't worry about, not that it's not 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: bad news, but I mean that's very The liquidation's a 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: tail end of what's been in the past, isn't it. 18 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Correct, I think there's a really long chain of 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: tidy out that and then Revenue Department's going through at 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: the moment, so it it's definitely not a recent indicator, 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: right those areas. 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: What does that tell us not that that's ninety days, right, 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: you're in areas officially if it's ninety days or more. Year. 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: Our report talks about areas at any state, so you 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: can do well, well, no, what I do? 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: Oh, for goodness sake, that's just a few disorganized people. 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: No. So look, so what we expect at this time 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: of year of season nowaday. So we've come through Christmas, 29 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: which is a really extensive time for a lot of families. 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: So you've got obviously you know, Christmas holidays, families forking 31 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: out for kids going back to skill. So we would 32 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: expect to see as we have that areas Heaven Cristus month. 33 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: But we're still down on last year by almost a percent, 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: So that's fantastic news. The latest stage areas, which is 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: what you're talking about the ninety days past Joe, we're 36 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: sitting at about ninety four thousand people there and any 37 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: time over Joe is about four hundred and ninety one thousand. 38 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: So overall Kiwis are managing their money quite well. 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: That's encouraging this new lending. How much of it's new 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: new versus you know, we're swapping banks for cash backs, A. 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: Lot of it's slopping So I did see something yesterday 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: about first time buyers being really acted lately, which is 43 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: fantastic to see. But our data is definitely demonstrating that 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: we are seeing a lot of refinancing going on. And 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: you know, as we all know, there's been a lot 46 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: of quite gealing offers out there from the bank, so 47 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: great to see competition working in people moving around. 48 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: What's your sense of this, Moniker? Going forward? Are we 49 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: in recovery? Is this a decent year? Should we buckle 50 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: up and get ready for some good times? 51 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: I think things are starting to turn. I'm just not 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: clear on how quickly or we will when you know, 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: and what that's going to look like. And there's definitely 54 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: the sentiment I'm getting from the market. So there's a 55 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: lot of different economic indicators that are pointing in the 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: right direction, but we still get a few wobbles here 57 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: in the long made the good news continue here. 58 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: Here weldn appreciate it very much. Monica Lacy, who's the 59 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Centric chief operating officer. For more from the Mike Asking Breakfast, 60 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks there'd be from six am weekdays, 61 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on radio