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Speaker 2: Hell are you Great, New Zealanders? And Welcome to Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Fulls Show Podcast number one one five for

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Speaker 2: the first of May twenty twenty five, went deep on

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Speaker 2: THEO Vaughn and Mark Zuckerberg and then chat about it

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Speaker 2: whether social media is bad or not. Some people think

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Speaker 2: it is, some people think it Isn't you make up

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Speaker 2: your mind listening to that, we also got some great

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Speaker 2: financial advice for people to give to kids, because I

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Speaker 2: we finished with a bunch of punishing earworm songs and

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Speaker 2: how to cleanse one from your mind. So great show today. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think was actually a pretty good shot. I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, surprised ourselves. So subscribe, sit to download or follow

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Speaker 3: Well, hello, do you welcome into the show on this

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Speaker 3: Thursday afternoon. As most of us know, there is a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for tuning in your great

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Speaker 2: New Zealanders.

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Speaker 1: Where you are.

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Speaker 2: I was on Instagram, you said it. It was blowing up

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Speaker 2: with this this viral clip on It was a young

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Speaker 2: man outlining the five best New Zealand actors of all time. Right,

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Speaker 2: it was everywhere on Instagram yesterday. So I thought I'll

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Speaker 5: Top five actors of all time? Oh easy, this is

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Speaker 5: the easiest questions I've about. Russell Crowe the greatest of

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Speaker 5: all time, hands down, followed closely by Matt Heath. We've

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Speaker 5: played Dick Jo Hanssen Sison on The Devil Dead, Me too,

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Speaker 5: al Jack Nicholson, Chris Warner, shout out Chris Warner. He's

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Speaker 5: kind of like the acting version of like a trade

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Speaker 5: that like never leaves Cambridge. You know, he's just he's

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Speaker 5: Russ Russell Crow's a massive inspiration. I would love to

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Speaker 5: get him in the Tavern two. If you somehow see this, Russell,

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Speaker 5: You'd make a fantastic wise bar rat. I think as

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Speaker 5: long as you work for piss.

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Speaker 2: Well that's blowing up.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, I've got to say, I mean that is

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Speaker 2: You're part of it, like a Russell Crow's fantastic. Of course,

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Speaker 2: the incredible performance and Gladiator absolutely beautiful minds. I absolutely

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Speaker 2: love him. Enjoyed The Pope's Exercist's latest movie. But that's

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Speaker 2: ridiculous to say that is a better actor than me.

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Speaker 3: Well, he said, you were closely followed. Well, look, if

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Speaker 3: you can't get Russ to come down to be a

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Speaker 3: part of the Tavern movie too, then you are available.

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Speaker 3: I think you know you'll work for beer, won't you.

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Speaker 2: It was great to beat Cliff Anthony Starr I'm just

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Speaker 2: Great to beat Sam Neil in that list. I please

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Speaker 2: with that, Carl Ubarn Yeah, Tiger, it was great.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned Denzel Washington as well, obviously huge, huge actor.

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Speaker 3: So he went nither then to Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Was global? Wasn't a global?

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Speaker 3: There was no bread Pitt in there, there was no

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Speaker 3: You'll get number one one day, Mate, one day. But

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Speaker 3: promoting cinema in New Zealand, local cinema. It's a movie

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Speaker 3: called The Tavern and it is based in Cambridge. Five

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Speaker 3: and pea property developer with sinister plans. But it's playing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's safe to say a better actor

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Speaker 3: There we go right on to today's show after three o'clock. Earworms.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about that for the last couple of

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Speaker 3: Those catchy, punishing songs. We've all had them stuck in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because apparently they're not great for you. They use

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock financial education will be made compulsory by

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and how do you teach your kids? Because I

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Speaker 2: So I want to crowdsource good techniques for teaching my kids. Currently,

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Speaker 2: It's just everywhere. Yeah, I'm a terrible example for my kids,

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Speaker 2: So sometimes you've got to make that hard decision. Right,

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Speaker 2: They've got a difficult thing. They haven't saved up enough

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So Mark Zuckerberger, head of Meta, He

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Speaker 8: You know there's been like studies on where it's like

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Speaker 8: doom scrolling and stuff like that can lead to depression,

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so so look, I mean we obviously study this

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Speaker 10: lot of like media coverage of this stuff that's like

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Speaker 10: My understanding of the current state of the research is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was actually quite compelled with what Mark

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Speaker 2: As he points out, it's the same thing as living

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Speaker 2: The selling of social media is just a bad, bad, bad,

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Speaker 2: and this is the argument that we get. When I

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's just that's continuing down. But have we been

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Speaker 2: not inherently bad, it's not inherently good. It is just

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Speaker 3: Well, like you, when I heard that and read a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Mark Zuckerberg has put a full throated

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Speaker 8: Well, it does make it more difficult for them, and

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Speaker 3: ZB afternoon twenty eight past one, and we're talking about

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Speaker 2: And unsurprisingly he said no. But I felt some of

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Speaker 2: But I found there's some text here from who's this from?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the studies are conclusive, Whereas if

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Speaker 3: Yep, exactly. Daniel, what's your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 15: Look, I haven't got a dumb of time for social media.

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Speaker 17: I can't really stand it at all, to be honest,

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Speaker 15: As much as I reckon it's like a gun right

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Speaker 2: Don't they Absolutely? And what I would say was social

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Speaker 3: that really worries me, Daniel is the rise of AI.

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Speaker 3: And you know you can argue, so a lot of

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Speaker 3: these images popping up on Facebook and other social media

436
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Speaker 3: now that.

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Speaker 2: Is clearly AI. But then you look at the comments

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Speaker 2: and the amount of people that seem to be sucked

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Speaker 2: in by it. But then I start to wonder are

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Speaker 2: those actually real people?

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Speaker 3: Maybe the bots? Maybe this is you know, the dead

442
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Speaker 3: Internet theory. So then I get sucked in by it.

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Speaker 3: It's just you know, it starts to reality, starts to

444
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Speaker 3: crumble and think what is real and what is just

445
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Speaker 3: bull bs?

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Speaker 2: You know, Well, Daniel's not watching any of it, so

447
00:21:56,613 --> 00:21:59,733
Speaker 2: he's not like you, Tyler, that's just sitting by watching bots.

448
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Speaker 2: I argue about AI contact.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which makes me angry that bots are arguing.

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Speaker 2: What do you do with your time, Daniel?

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Speaker 18: Ah?

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Speaker 17: Look, last night, funnily enough, I picked my son's big

453
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Speaker 17: box to replace a couple of competitor, isn't it.

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Speaker 15: So there was my little entertainment last night, and I

455
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Speaker 15: was like building things and making things in the brick shops.

456
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Speaker 15: I'm an electrician by trades. I've got pretty hands on

457
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Speaker 15: skills there, love making things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, see you're you're winning, then, are you? Well

459
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Speaker 2: everyone else is getting sucked into the void. You're just

460
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Speaker 2: replacing capacitors and xboxes and building things and being what

461
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Speaker 2: a human supposed to be jit creative and constructive generally.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned your was it your son?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it hard to keep him off?

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Speaker 19: It?

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Speaker 3: Is that a challenge?

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Speaker 17: Funny like is igbox picked up on Friday? Last Friday?

469
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Speaker 15: And I've spent a.

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Speaker 17: Bit of time trying to find a replacement house why,

471
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Speaker 17: getting much around by people and things and gave up

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Speaker 17: and myself.

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Speaker 15: But and there's five odd days that he didn't have it.

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Speaker 6: He was.

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Speaker 15: He was a bunch of energy.

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Speaker 20: That's a sure he was.

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Speaker 15: He was doing things that a kid should be doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that's when that's boredom. It's an important thing. Yeah, yeah,

479
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Speaker 2: you need to embrace boredom.

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Speaker 3: But it got kids out right that as you say,

481
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Speaker 3: it's kind of kills creativity because, as you say, you

482
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Speaker 3: were throwing rocks at a tree and then you might say,

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Speaker 3: bugger this, I'm going to go and figret a game

484
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Speaker 3: with my mates.

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Speaker 2: Famously, Isaac Newton invented calculus because he was bored on

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Speaker 2: his parents far miles from from from town when there

487
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Speaker 2: was some you know, a plague, plague restrictions on. So

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Speaker 2: there you go.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call it is twenty seven to two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Zuckerberg says in a new podcast that social media

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Speaker 2: isn't bad. Is he just a robotic creep trying to

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Speaker 2: suck the life out of you with his products for cash?

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Speaker 2: Or has he got a point?

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Speaker 19: Back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylian.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about a interview on a very popular podcast.

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Speaker 3: It was Mark Zuckerberg and the podcast host name is

518
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Speaker 3: the Obonne. A lot of people know him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of my favorite comedians. Buddy, He's smart.

520
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Speaker 2: He asks questions that sound dumb, but they cut through.

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Speaker 2: He asked Zuckerberg as social media bag bad, and of

522
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Speaker 2: course Mark Zuckerberg, who's a billionaire from social media, said

523
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Speaker 2: it wasn't and he look, he recognized that doom scrolling.

524
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Speaker 2: He has this concerns, but he reckons there's a lack

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Speaker 2: of conclusive evidence on its negative impact. He thought positive

526
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Speaker 2: aspects of social media include building relationships and providing entertainment

527
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Speaker 2: for people. Yeah, does a lot of what television did,

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Speaker 2: As he points out, people watch television from when they

529
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Speaker 2: got home from from work till they went to sleep.

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Speaker 2: Now they're watching other stuff. It might be social media. Zuckerberg.

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Speaker 2: He says he's got a lot of academics that are

532
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Speaker 2: doing stuff, and he says it's not coming back all negative.

533
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Speaker 2: And he thinks that the media has just got it

534
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Speaker 2: out against social media because they're in competitive in competition

535
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Speaker 2: with them financially. But you know the likes of Jonathan Height,

536
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Speaker 2: who's a social psychologist at New York University, he just

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Speaker 2: thinks it's pervasive use of social media has disrupted traditional

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Speaker 2: child to development, leading to social deprivation. And it's far

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Speaker 2: from social. It's making people isolated and comparison comparison being

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Speaker 2: the thief of joy, making people miserable and feeling not

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Speaker 2: worthwhile from what they see. Susan, from mum's point of view,

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Speaker 2: what do you think of this?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, from a mum's point of view, and also from

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Speaker 21: a point of view I brought up for children and

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Speaker 21: one is it moreer in his late twenties and the

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Speaker 21: other three in their early twenties. The first one didn't

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Speaker 21: have so much of the phone because the Apple phone

548
00:27:07,053 --> 00:27:11,293
Speaker 21: wourned out when he was college, et cetera. And he

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Speaker 21: was the one that is academically in the family. The

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Speaker 21: other three they were there when it all was and

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Speaker 21: they were constantly on their phone. You can say, well,

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Speaker 21: parents can manage that, but you know, when a child

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Speaker 21: gets to seventeen eighteen nineteen, it's very hard to manage

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Speaker 21: how do you do that? And I find that, you know,

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Speaker 21: it's a different world. Mother's work as well as fathers,

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Speaker 21: we don't have the same time. You know, after children,

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Speaker 21: facts around, you know, what's of such as such. Most

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Speaker 21: people I find in their age group they don't know

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Speaker 21: any facts. They're always scrolling. My daughter will take a

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Speaker 21: picture of herself probably fifty times a day. And I

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Speaker 21: find that they can't read things properly. Young people that

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Speaker 21: I work with don't read things properly. Quite often I

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Speaker 21: can go past their desks and I see that they're

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Speaker 21: actually on their phones and they're scrolling. And I think

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Speaker 21: that happens a lot in an office environment. You can't look,

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Speaker 21: and I actually think it's really detrimental. I think that

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Speaker 21: they they believe what they read. I have a son

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Speaker 21: that you know, he lets everything he reads on social

569
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Speaker 21: media about trump et cetera. And they don't look into

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Speaker 21: the facts or do the other things, and I actually

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Speaker 21: find it really detrimental. And I also find now that

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Speaker 21: especially more with boys, that there is so much time

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Speaker 21: they're isolated in their rooms. And I have got two

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Speaker 21: like this. At all they do is games. See they

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Speaker 21: don't go to the gym, they don't They just go

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Speaker 21: to work, do something and then game.

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Speaker 2: Do you see any see any good in social media?

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Speaker 2: Is any parts of it that you think are a positive?

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Speaker 21: I think Google's great. I don't think that. I think

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Speaker 21: it's good for people perhaps that are older generation Facebook

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Speaker 21: they can contact people, but I think for the younger generations,

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Speaker 21: as you go down probably twenty five age group plus,

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Speaker 21: I think it's seriously detrimental because when you're older than that,

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Speaker 21: you know how to use other things like you might

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Speaker 21: use Facebook to contact people or doing things like that.

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Speaker 21: You've already got organization schools. You might have been brought

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Speaker 21: up with that, but I got brought up with Ted

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Speaker 21: at school when.

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Speaker 16: COVID was on.

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Speaker 21: And they don't want to They don't want to fill

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Speaker 21: the forms out, they don't want to look into things.

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Speaker 21: They because everything they want is quick.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, though, Susan I was reading a bunch of

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Speaker 2: stuff from ancient Rome, as I want to do. And

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Speaker 2: when I'm on YouTube, I'm watching a lot of clubs.

596
00:30:00,973 --> 00:30:04,573
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with the ancients. But anyway, that's my little curse.

597
00:30:05,173 --> 00:30:10,253
Speaker 2: But there was this that all these writings of Roman

598
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Speaker 2: parents talking about how useless and lazy their kids were,

599
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Speaker 2: and how they'd lost the discipline, and how the new

600
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Speaker 2: things that are available to them were making them soft.

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Speaker 2: And when I was a kid, I was constantly getting

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Speaker 2: hassled because I sat in front of the TV and

603
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Speaker 2: just watched things i'd videoed off the TV over and

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Speaker 2: over again. I'd watch the Naked Guden movie just over

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Speaker 2: and over and over again, the Rocky movies over and

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Speaker 2: over again. And that was a complete freak out for

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Speaker 2: my parents. And in the media at the time, there

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Speaker 2: was a lot of talk about how kids were having

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Speaker 2: their brains rotted by television. Do you think this is

610
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Speaker 2: a higher level freak out than previous ones, or do

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Speaker 2: you think that potentially us grown ups just freak out

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Speaker 2: about our kids no matter what, and they eventually find

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Speaker 2: their own way.

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Speaker 21: Because those television programs, a lot of them were good.

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Speaker 21: You looked at feelings you looked at this, you looked

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Speaker 21: at this. My kids were saying to me, Hey, look

617
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Speaker 21: at this person in the States doing this their dogs

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Speaker 21: like think as a ship. Did you know this happened

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Speaker 21: to this person on the other side of the world.

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Speaker 21: Look at that. I really don't care. I'm never going

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Speaker 21: to know them. But at least with TV, there's some

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Speaker 21: good programs on TV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think one thing that was quite good

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Speaker 2: about TV is, you know, like the Simpsons, people the

625
00:31:28,373 --> 00:31:31,893
Speaker 2: whole family would sit on the couch and watch programs

626
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Speaker 2: and then you'd go to school and everyone would have

627
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Speaker 2: watched the same thing. So there was also there was

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Speaker 2: a social aspect. One thing that I think what social

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Speaker 2: media does is it sort of silos us in different areas,

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Speaker 2: so we don't really have the same group experience of life,

631
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Speaker 2: which makes its social, but it makes you less social

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Speaker 2: in that regard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think it could be self correcting. As

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Speaker 3: you say that the advice that you give to your

635
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Speaker 3: kids that if you don't buy into the social media garbage,

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Speaker 3: you're a steppy Yet, Susan, I hope that maybe you know,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of young people who are ambitious and

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Speaker 3: they want to be successful, and that's why they're on

639
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Speaker 3: social media all the time. But if that message starts

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Speaker 3: to get through, and I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: truth to it, then that will start to turn around.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, and I just think that there's a lot of

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Speaker 21: time wasting where thingsite with TV. TV can be education,

644
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Speaker 21: but can be humorous data dat looking at Kim Kardashi

645
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Speaker 21: and putting an injection in new bottom to make it bigger.

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Speaker 21: It's not educational.

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Speaker 2: But I've watched you. I didn't mind that video. But no,

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Speaker 2: I see exactly what you're saying, Susan, so thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. I guess what Zuckerberg is saying. It's good

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Speaker 2: and bad. But if you like everything, there's temptations in

651
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Speaker 2: this world. If you are a young person and you

652
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Speaker 2: manage to traverse those social media waters better than your peers,

653
00:32:47,573 --> 00:32:51,573
Speaker 2: huge advantage, Yeah, absolutely huge advantage. I mean easier to

654
00:32:51,653 --> 00:32:54,453
Speaker 2: do than say. But so everything in the history of humanity,

655
00:32:54,613 --> 00:32:56,813
Speaker 2: there's those people that managed to focus on what's in

656
00:32:56,853 --> 00:32:59,053
Speaker 2: front of them and they'll succeed, and there's those that

657
00:32:59,093 --> 00:33:03,933
Speaker 2: get distracted and end up just doing nothing and not achieving.

658
00:33:04,053 --> 00:33:06,213
Speaker 3: Definitely, But it's like the kids at school, and we've

659
00:33:06,253 --> 00:33:07,853
Speaker 3: got a play. Some messages were horribly late. But the

660
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Speaker 3: kids who didn't have a TV in their home. When

661
00:33:09,933 --> 00:33:11,733
Speaker 3: I was a kid, there was one guy's name was Oliver,

662
00:33:11,773 --> 00:33:13,533
Speaker 3: won't get ki of his last name, didn't have a

663
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Speaker 3: TV in the home, and we couldn't understand that. We're

664
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Speaker 3: like Oliver, that you're a weirdo. Why don't you have

665
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Speaker 3: a TV? So we just don't have a TV. My

666
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Speaker 3: parents don't agree with it, and that is kind of

667
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Speaker 3: where we're at now that if a kid doesn't have

668
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Speaker 3: social media, every other kid would say, what do you

669
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Speaker 3: mean you don't have social media?

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Speaker 2: You we I mean, I mean, that's the hardest thing,

671
00:33:28,853 --> 00:33:30,453
Speaker 2: and they feel totally left out if you don't give

672
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Speaker 2: a kid a phone. As you know, Jonathan Hyder we

673
00:33:32,173 --> 00:33:34,573
Speaker 2: keep talking about. He's saying that should keep kids off

674
00:33:34,733 --> 00:33:38,253
Speaker 2: social media till they're sixteen, good luck, because you need

675
00:33:38,333 --> 00:33:40,053
Speaker 2: everyone and as he points out, it needs to be

676
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Speaker 2: a thing across the whole of a society. Otherwise the

677
00:33:43,493 --> 00:33:47,293
Speaker 2: kids that are fourteen just feel completely socially osteraizized, and

678
00:33:47,333 --> 00:33:51,493
Speaker 2: that's the problems. That's a problem in itself. Yeah, social

679
00:33:51,493 --> 00:33:53,333
Speaker 2: media definitely has pros and cons, But for me, I

680
00:33:53,373 --> 00:33:54,973
Speaker 2: think it's a great way of reaching out to a

681
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Speaker 2: much wider group. My experiences with raising things I've done

682
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Speaker 2: for my boy who's a wheelchair user, and I've had

683
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Speaker 2: huge success through social media and raising close to thirty

684
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Speaker 2: K and two different things I did. No way could

685
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Speaker 2: have reached out to that many people. Otherwise many thanks, Zane, Well,

686
00:34:10,293 --> 00:34:11,573
Speaker 2: good point. Thanks for text.

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Speaker 15: Do you go?

688
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Speaker 2: That's what Zuckerberg's saying. There is good and bad and everything.

689
00:34:15,293 --> 00:34:17,013
Speaker 3: Exactly. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

690
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Speaker 3: number to call. It's fourteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk mad He then Tyler Adams

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Speaker 1: afternoons call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty Youth Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks zed B. Having a great discussion about social media.

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Speaker 3: Is it bad? That was the question put to Mark

695
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Speaker 3: Zuckerberg by Theo Vaughn on his very popular podcast and

696
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Speaker 3: his HUNTSA from Zuckerberg is pretty much as you'd expect that, No,

697
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Speaker 3: it's not bad. It's got pros and cons and its

698
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Speaker 3: personal responsibility that matters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an interesting text. This is around our

700
00:34:48,773 --> 00:34:51,692
Speaker 2: last caller. What was her name again? I forgot Susan. Yeah,

701
00:34:51,733 --> 00:34:54,173
Speaker 2: she was lovely. But the sex to ask, is she

702
00:34:54,253 --> 00:34:56,172
Speaker 2: doing all the things herself that she wants her kids

703
00:34:56,173 --> 00:34:58,413
Speaker 2: to do rather than gaming? Is she going to the

704
00:34:58,453 --> 00:35:02,053
Speaker 2: gym outside all the time, doing puzzles, et cetera. And

705
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Speaker 2: I think that's a really good point, because we might

706
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Speaker 2: and I don't know anything about Susan's situation, so I'm

707
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Speaker 2: not saying that about her. But often people are freaking

708
00:35:11,733 --> 00:35:14,093
Speaker 2: out about how loose their kids are and how they're

709
00:35:14,293 --> 00:35:16,213
Speaker 2: focused on this, and then they're sitting on the couch

710
00:35:16,893 --> 00:35:20,373
Speaker 2: scrolling on their phone and they're not they're not providing

711
00:35:20,533 --> 00:35:25,133
Speaker 2: the example. If you if you are out running, you know,

712
00:35:25,213 --> 00:35:28,813
Speaker 2: you're socializing. You've got people around, there's dinner parties, there's

713
00:35:29,013 --> 00:35:31,893
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, you're playing yatzi whatever it is,

714
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Speaker 2: jagsaw puzzles on a Tuesday night, jigs and puzzles. Don't

715
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Speaker 2: get me started on that. The jigs and puzzles are

716
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Speaker 2: for the week. But don't get said.

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Speaker 3: On that lego lego on a Tuesday night.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is. If you're doing all these things, if

719
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Speaker 2: then I believe your kids will gravitate towards it, because

720
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Speaker 2: because the best way to teach people is by example, right, Gary,

721
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on social media.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I've got a different view. I'm of the age

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Speaker 14: where I grew up without the internet, so it didn't

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Speaker 14: really exist, so we amuse ourselves that. Yeah, we were

725
00:36:05,613 --> 00:36:08,933
Speaker 14: TV kids, right, so we grew up watching your Box,

726
00:36:09,533 --> 00:36:11,533
Speaker 14: which is mum and Dad's favorite babysitter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: So I work in marketing, so unfortunately I have to

729
00:36:15,693 --> 00:36:19,573
Speaker 14: embrace social media. It is a great way to reach

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Speaker 14: the right audiences directly, anytime, anywhere. And you know, unbeknownst

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Speaker 14: to us, you know that this whole thing that user

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Speaker 14: generated content. Way back when we thought that will never happen,

733
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Speaker 14: but look at today where people can earn money off,

734
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Speaker 14: you know, providing their weird, strange content on the web.

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Speaker 14: And so I guess it's a stage where it's a

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Speaker 14: bit raw and it is addictive. I worry about my

737
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Speaker 14: own child. She has a lot of screen time. I

738
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Speaker 14: have a lot of screen time. But you know, it

739
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Speaker 14: is what it is. We've got to embrace it and

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Speaker 14: probably put a little bit of common sense around screen

741
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Speaker 14: time and making sure that you still keep connected to

742
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Speaker 14: your friends physically, not just by our Facebook.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of what marks Luckerberg is saying, and

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00:37:09,773 --> 00:37:11,373
Speaker 2: you know, I don't like to agree with him because

745
00:37:11,413 --> 00:37:13,413
Speaker 2: i've I've thought he's a bit of a creep for

746
00:37:13,413 --> 00:37:15,053
Speaker 2: a long time. But actually I like his new curly

747
00:37:15,093 --> 00:37:18,453
Speaker 2: here and he's working out a lot and he's but anyway,

748
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Speaker 2: that's by the Bike. Although the worn Vaughan had this

749
00:37:21,653 --> 00:37:23,212
Speaker 2: great line to me goes you look like a guy

750
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Speaker 2: that's watched What it Is to Be a Man on

751
00:37:24,973 --> 00:37:27,573
Speaker 2: YouTube and it's trying to imitate it. That's by by

752
00:37:27,613 --> 00:37:30,853
Speaker 2: the Bye. But he's basically saying what you're saying. It's

753
00:37:30,933 --> 00:37:33,333
Speaker 2: like a big city, right, So social media is a

754
00:37:33,333 --> 00:37:34,692
Speaker 2: big city. You can go to the big city. There's

755
00:37:34,733 --> 00:37:36,253
Speaker 2: lots of temptations, a lot of things, and a lot

756
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Speaker 2: of opportunities. And really it's not inherently good or bad

757
00:37:39,693 --> 00:37:42,213
Speaker 2: a big city, but there's bad you can find and

758
00:37:42,253 --> 00:37:44,893
Speaker 2: there's good that you can find within there. Gary, Is

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Speaker 2: that kind of what you're saying?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Yeah, I mean I love science fiction and you

761
00:37:49,893 --> 00:37:52,573
Speaker 14: watch a lot of movies where you know, people could

762
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Speaker 14: testriphize about us literally living through a virtual avatar or

763
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Speaker 14: a robot that goes out and does the things. So

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Speaker 14: we just sit at home and you know, there is

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Speaker 14: a future where maybe that will exist. I don't know.

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Speaker 14: But the thing is that in its raws form, in

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00:38:05,853 --> 00:38:10,252
Speaker 14: its current state, it has traditional media. So I don't

768
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Speaker 14: think anyone buys a newspaper. I think those eventually will die.

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Speaker 14: Having physical paper copies of the newspapers seems crazy to me.

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Speaker 14: The news. I still put the six o'clock news on.

771
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Speaker 14: I don't know why. I think I grew up with that.

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Speaker 14: So you know, you've got to put the six o'clock

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Speaker 14: news on and see what Donald Trump's doing. But I

774
00:38:26,853 --> 00:38:29,493
Speaker 14: guess that all fade and again with the next generation.

775
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Speaker 14: They're getting fed via an algorithm everything that interests them.

776
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Speaker 14: What the worry is is that you're not seeing the

777
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Speaker 14: broader spectrum of things that may not be in your algorithm.

778
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Speaker 14: So you're getting quite a selective view of the world.

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00:38:41,573 --> 00:38:43,812
Speaker 14: And yeah, not all, not all the stuff that's fed

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Speaker 14: via that algorithm is true. So I love how my

781
00:38:47,653 --> 00:38:49,413
Speaker 14: daughter goes. I looked it up on Wikipedia. I said,

782
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Speaker 14: you know what Wikipedia does. It's not actually a library

783
00:38:52,253 --> 00:38:55,732
Speaker 14: with spectual throwing that stuff in there, so it could

784
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Speaker 14: be a whole bunch of life. So please, you know,

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Speaker 14: check your content. And I thought, how do we do

786
00:38:59,773 --> 00:39:01,773
Speaker 14: it with mycids while we went to libraries and we

787
00:39:01,813 --> 00:39:03,413
Speaker 14: pulled out that encyclopedia or.

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Speaker 2: Had the Encyclopaedia Britannica that may have been out of date.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, absolutely love you your points, Gary, thanks for

790
00:39:09,413 --> 00:39:11,893
Speaker 2: bringing in. It is six to two back for you shortly.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tyler Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: News TALKSB. It is four to two. Good discussion.

795
00:39:25,733 --> 00:39:28,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, good or bad. Social media's here just like everything

796
00:39:28,213 --> 00:39:33,053
Speaker 2: else booze drags, gabbling. Those who traverse social media wisely

797
00:39:33,093 --> 00:39:35,333
Speaker 2: will have a huge advantage over those who get sucked in,

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00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:38,213
Speaker 2: which is a great opportunity. The doom scrollers are no

799
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Speaker 2: competition for those that have a more healthy approach to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, great discussion coming up after two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: What was the best piece of financial advice you ever received?

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00:39:50,373 --> 00:39:52,133
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number of

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Speaker 3: call New Sport and Weather on its.

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00:39:53,733 --> 00:39:58,933
Speaker 1: Way talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and

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00:39:58,973 --> 00:40:01,893
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons US Talks.

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Speaker 3: EDB, News Talks, EDB, welcome back into the program. Great

807
00:40:07,453 --> 00:40:10,573
Speaker 3: to have your company. There's always six past too, hey.

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Speaker 2: Before we move on to financial advice, there was a

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00:40:14,213 --> 00:40:16,413
Speaker 2: quote that I wanted to share in the last hour

810
00:40:16,453 --> 00:40:18,093
Speaker 2: because you know, I love a quote. You do love

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00:40:18,133 --> 00:40:21,053
Speaker 2: a quote, philosophical quote, and I think this is a

812
00:40:21,173 --> 00:40:25,653
Speaker 2: very important quote from Frederic Neetzsche battle not with monsters

813
00:40:25,733 --> 00:40:27,773
Speaker 2: lest you become a monster. And if you gaze into

814
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Speaker 2: the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. Oh that's

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Speaker 2: very apt, very apt. Think about that in terms of

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Speaker 2: social media and Nietzsche or he didn't know anything about meta,

817
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Speaker 2: he didn't know anything about inst he didn't know anyth

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Speaker 2: about X. But battle not with monsters lest you become

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Speaker 2: a monster.

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Speaker 3: And you need that on your phone backgrounds every time

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Speaker 3: you log into social media.

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Speaker 1: If you gaze into the abyss, the abys gazes also

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Speaker 1: into you.

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Speaker 3: It's quite dark. He was quite a dark guy though

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00:40:53,133 --> 00:40:57,013
Speaker 3: with me. Very smart, though, genius, but a very odd man. Right,

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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about financial literacy. As it was

827
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Speaker 3: announced yesterday, financial education will become compulsory in schools from

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. So this is budgeting advice. This is

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Speaker 3: financial literacy across the board and starting at a very

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Speaker 3: young age.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seems to make sense budgeting, finance, insurance, student loans, etc.

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00:41:18,893 --> 00:41:20,772
Speaker 2: Because we have a whole lot of people out there

833
00:41:20,973 --> 00:41:24,493
Speaker 2: that are growing up not having any idea how to

834
00:41:24,533 --> 00:41:26,293
Speaker 2: live their lives financially, and a lot of people have

835
00:41:26,333 --> 00:41:28,413
Speaker 2: been talking about this on news Talk ZB who had

836
00:41:28,413 --> 00:41:32,693
Speaker 2: a great discussion this morning Carrey was having, and also

837
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Speaker 2: last night Heather Duplicillen, the Great and Powerful Drive host

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00:41:36,773 --> 00:41:39,773
Speaker 2: on ZEDB. She took a surprising angle on it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I mean.

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Speaker 22: I'd love to know how you feel about it, because

841
00:41:43,133 --> 00:41:44,093
Speaker 22: I've got to be honest with you.

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00:41:44,173 --> 00:41:45,373
Speaker 2: I just am not loving this.

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Speaker 22: Like I feel like school is for learning how to read,

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00:41:49,053 --> 00:41:53,053
Speaker 22: how to write. You know, basic mathematics and then advanced

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00:41:53,093 --> 00:41:58,373
Speaker 22: mathematics as you get older, sciences, history, music, There is

846
00:41:58,453 --> 00:42:02,293
Speaker 22: so much already to learn that surely learning a basic

847
00:42:02,373 --> 00:42:05,613
Speaker 22: life skill like budgeting falls into the same category as

848
00:42:05,733 --> 00:42:08,333
Speaker 22: learning to bake. It's not something you should be learning

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00:42:08,413 --> 00:42:10,893
Speaker 22: at school. It's something you should be learning at home

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00:42:11,093 --> 00:42:13,373
Speaker 22: because what does it displace? But look, I might just

851
00:42:13,413 --> 00:42:17,613
Speaker 22: be just unbelievably puritanical in my view, about schooling.

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00:42:17,613 --> 00:42:20,053
Speaker 2: And like all the great broadcasters across the hour, her

853
00:42:20,413 --> 00:42:22,733
Speaker 2: opinion changed a little bit. But what that got me

854
00:42:22,813 --> 00:42:26,173
Speaker 2: thinking about is anything. And I said this, when it

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Speaker 2: came to sex education in schools, you'd be crazy just

856
00:42:28,693 --> 00:42:31,493
Speaker 2: to let the school do it, because the government shouldn't

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00:42:31,493 --> 00:42:33,733
Speaker 2: be teaching you everything. How can you trust them? Governments

858
00:42:33,733 --> 00:42:37,213
Speaker 2: come and go, ideologies come and go. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I would like to lay the moral code of sexuality

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Speaker 2: on my kids, but I you know, in sex education.

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Speaker 2: But I when Heather said that last night, I got

862
00:42:48,693 --> 00:42:53,173
Speaker 2: thinking about my education for my kids at home financially

863
00:42:53,373 --> 00:42:55,613
Speaker 2: And look, I think I'm a great dad and a

864
00:42:55,613 --> 00:42:58,213
Speaker 2: lot of respects, but it did strike me when I

865
00:42:58,253 --> 00:43:00,693
Speaker 2: heard that that I am actually probably quite a terrible

866
00:43:00,733 --> 00:43:03,333
Speaker 2: dad when it comes to financial literacy and teaching them

867
00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:06,813
Speaker 2: the lessons and financing. I got taught nothing around this

868
00:43:06,853 --> 00:43:11,292
Speaker 2: as a child, absolutely nothing about it. And my parents

869
00:43:11,333 --> 00:43:13,813
Speaker 2: were fantastic people as well, but that just wasn't their focus.

870
00:43:13,853 --> 00:43:16,212
Speaker 2: And I, you know, you hear this sort of rich dad,

871
00:43:16,253 --> 00:43:17,933
Speaker 2: poor dad kind of situation. And I know a lot

872
00:43:17,973 --> 00:43:20,533
Speaker 2: of people who came from families that were very financially

873
00:43:20,533 --> 00:43:23,413
Speaker 2: literate and and they've made great decisions in their life,

874
00:43:23,413 --> 00:43:24,853
Speaker 2: and I'm going to say I have not made great

875
00:43:24,853 --> 00:43:28,253
Speaker 2: financial decisions in my life. I've made terrible ones. So

876
00:43:28,693 --> 00:43:31,493
Speaker 2: I sort of want to crowdsource good techniques for teaching

877
00:43:31,653 --> 00:43:33,613
Speaker 2: your kids. It's not too late. One of them's just

878
00:43:33,693 --> 00:43:35,853
Speaker 2: left home. The other one is still a high school,

879
00:43:35,893 --> 00:43:38,053
Speaker 2: so it's not too late to get things going. So

880
00:43:38,093 --> 00:43:41,213
Speaker 2: I want to crowdsource good techniques for teaching my kids. Currently,

881
00:43:41,293 --> 00:43:43,013
Speaker 2: I spray money around the house like an out of

882
00:43:43,053 --> 00:43:43,853
Speaker 2: control fire hose.

883
00:43:44,173 --> 00:43:44,453
Speaker 23: It's just.

884
00:43:45,933 --> 00:43:50,373
Speaker 2: As well, and outside the house there's just disgusting, absolutely,

885
00:43:50,453 --> 00:43:52,933
Speaker 2: and I think that's a terrible example for my kids.

886
00:43:52,973 --> 00:43:55,773
Speaker 2: I just pay for everything, and I'm weak. You know,

887
00:43:56,133 --> 00:43:58,093
Speaker 2: if they've got a problem, I just throw money at

888
00:43:58,093 --> 00:44:00,772
Speaker 2: it till it goes away, which which I think is weak,

889
00:44:01,133 --> 00:44:03,373
Speaker 2: but as hard as a parent not to do that.

890
00:44:03,693 --> 00:44:07,853
Speaker 2: But you, I think you have to. You have to.

891
00:44:08,413 --> 00:44:11,652
Speaker 2: Someone said keep your kids poor and tired, and I

892
00:44:11,693 --> 00:44:16,373
Speaker 2: haven't done that, which means sport and running around and

893
00:44:17,533 --> 00:44:18,173
Speaker 2: have no money.

894
00:44:18,253 --> 00:44:19,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, one of my they tired at least.

895
00:44:19,893 --> 00:44:21,252
Speaker 3: I mean they're not poor, but are they tired?

896
00:44:21,333 --> 00:44:21,613
Speaker 9: Ah?

897
00:44:21,733 --> 00:44:24,373
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean both of them did rowing. Yeah,

898
00:44:23,653 --> 00:44:27,413
Speaker 2: you know, and one of them he's had a job

899
00:44:27,453 --> 00:44:29,213
Speaker 2: since he was fourteen, which is pretty good. So and

900
00:44:29,253 --> 00:44:31,493
Speaker 2: I think that was a fantastic thing for him because

901
00:44:31,693 --> 00:44:34,533
Speaker 2: he started going, oh, everything costs this many hours of

902
00:44:34,573 --> 00:44:37,653
Speaker 2: my life to do, and so he hasn't necessarily equated

903
00:44:37,693 --> 00:44:40,733
Speaker 2: that to me giving him money, but he definitely feels

904
00:44:40,733 --> 00:44:44,212
Speaker 2: different about his spending money. So I guess one hundred

905
00:44:44,213 --> 00:44:47,813
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty what is the best financial advice

906
00:44:47,933 --> 00:44:51,293
Speaker 2: you can give to kids? Did you get good financial

907
00:44:51,293 --> 00:44:53,093
Speaker 2: advice and did it help you? Or did you get

908
00:44:53,133 --> 00:44:56,053
Speaker 2: poor financial advice? What's the poor examples of bringing your

909
00:44:56,093 --> 00:44:58,133
Speaker 2: kids up? Because I think I might have described a couple.

910
00:44:57,893 --> 00:45:00,453
Speaker 3: Of them, even though you still spray cash around like

911
00:45:00,453 --> 00:45:03,013
Speaker 3: there's no tomorrow. What was the best piece of financial

912
00:45:03,013 --> 00:45:03,772
Speaker 3: advice you ever got?

913
00:45:04,013 --> 00:45:06,253
Speaker 2: So I don't think I ever got any. Yeah, no,

914
00:45:06,293 --> 00:45:07,613
Speaker 2: the best way, No, it doesn't have to be from you,

915
00:45:07,653 --> 00:45:10,333
Speaker 2: par ups the best piece of financial advice I ever got?

916
00:45:10,373 --> 00:45:12,613
Speaker 2: And look, my accountant gives me lots of financial advice.

917
00:45:12,693 --> 00:45:16,253
Speaker 2: I good account Yeah they know, but it's setting not

918
00:45:16,853 --> 00:45:19,213
Speaker 2: taking it out of your hands. And I think James

919
00:45:19,213 --> 00:45:21,533
Speaker 2: Clear talks about this in the book Automatic Habits as well.

920
00:45:21,613 --> 00:45:25,853
Speaker 2: Atomic habits. Take automate it. So make sure all your

921
00:45:25,893 --> 00:45:29,093
Speaker 2: payments go out, so everything that has to be paid.

922
00:45:30,013 --> 00:45:32,373
Speaker 2: It's not a discipline thing. It's set up all the

923
00:45:32,373 --> 00:45:34,093
Speaker 2: direct credit, set up all the things that go into

924
00:45:34,133 --> 00:45:35,973
Speaker 2: the different counts, set up the saving. If you're going

925
00:45:36,013 --> 00:45:38,252
Speaker 2: to do something, set it up so it goes before

926
00:45:38,253 --> 00:45:40,253
Speaker 2: you can get your filthy hands on it, before you

927
00:45:40,293 --> 00:45:42,893
Speaker 2: can turn the taps on and spread around the bars

928
00:45:42,933 --> 00:45:45,893
Speaker 2: and restaurants inside hopefully out of mind lego shops of

929
00:45:47,893 --> 00:45:49,692
Speaker 2: the city. So I think that's a really good piece

930
00:45:49,693 --> 00:45:52,533
Speaker 2: of advice. Just set up the payments so you don't

931
00:45:52,533 --> 00:45:55,413
Speaker 2: even get your weak hands on the money.

932
00:45:55,693 --> 00:45:57,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. I've

933
00:45:57,773 --> 00:45:59,732
Speaker 3: got to say mine and I went the opposite way

934
00:45:59,733 --> 00:46:01,613
Speaker 3: to you. My parents didn't really talk about money either.

935
00:46:01,653 --> 00:46:03,692
Speaker 3: And whether that was a generational thing, I think there

936
00:46:03,733 --> 00:46:06,333
Speaker 3: was this and it probably still exists in New Zealand

937
00:46:06,333 --> 00:46:09,373
Speaker 3: culture that we are loath to talk about finances and

938
00:46:09,453 --> 00:46:11,333
Speaker 3: money because we see it as being a bit you

939
00:46:11,373 --> 00:46:14,373
Speaker 3: know where a bit show Offye, it's a bit boastful

940
00:46:14,413 --> 00:46:16,533
Speaker 3: to talk about money. And I remember asking Dad, Hey,

941
00:46:16,533 --> 00:46:18,813
Speaker 3: where are your investments? He said, mind your own bloody business.

942
00:46:18,893 --> 00:46:20,652
Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you where my investments are.

943
00:46:21,533 --> 00:46:24,013
Speaker 3: But I was pretty loose with cash when I was

944
00:46:24,053 --> 00:46:26,973
Speaker 3: in the student years, to the point where a lot.

945
00:46:26,893 --> 00:46:29,733
Speaker 2: Of it you're so tight now. But that's it.

946
00:46:29,773 --> 00:46:32,253
Speaker 3: I went the other other extreme that I was so

947
00:46:32,493 --> 00:46:35,093
Speaker 3: stupid with money when I was at university and got

948
00:46:35,093 --> 00:46:37,893
Speaker 3: into so much debt, to the point where I had

949
00:46:37,933 --> 00:46:40,333
Speaker 3: a knock on the door from the bailiff because I owned,

950
00:46:40,453 --> 00:46:42,893
Speaker 3: I owed all these fines. But I went right the

951
00:46:42,933 --> 00:46:45,453
Speaker 3: other way that that was a massive learning cuve for me,

952
00:46:45,493 --> 00:46:47,613
Speaker 3: and now I'm a massive scrooge who just hates spending

953
00:46:47,653 --> 00:46:48,933
Speaker 3: money and hates getting into debt.

954
00:46:49,053 --> 00:46:51,213
Speaker 2: I tell you, if you're walking into a cafe with Tyler,

955
00:46:51,253 --> 00:46:53,613
Speaker 2: he walks really fast up to the door and then

956
00:46:53,773 --> 00:46:56,733
Speaker 2: suddenly slows down, so you arrive at the counter first

957
00:46:56,773 --> 00:46:59,613
Speaker 2: and find yourself buying the coffees. Yeah, or at a bar,

958
00:46:59,733 --> 00:47:01,933
Speaker 2: you never see him. Suddenly he's off to the bathroom

959
00:47:02,013 --> 00:47:03,732
Speaker 2: just when the round's being done, and then he comes back.

960
00:47:03,733 --> 00:47:05,732
Speaker 3: It's a good strategy, though it took you this long

961
00:47:05,813 --> 00:47:08,133
Speaker 3: to figure that out. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

962
00:47:08,133 --> 00:47:11,533
Speaker 3: What is the best piece of financial advice? You've been told,

963
00:47:11,573 --> 00:47:14,133
Speaker 3: love to hear from you. It is thirteen Bus.

964
00:47:13,933 --> 00:47:19,933
Speaker 1: Two your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

965
00:47:19,973 --> 00:47:23,733
Speaker 1: afternoons call oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk.

966
00:47:23,573 --> 00:47:23,933
Speaker 4: Said, be.

967
00:47:25,573 --> 00:47:28,533
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, and we're talking about financial literacy. It is

968
00:47:28,573 --> 00:47:31,333
Speaker 3: going to be compulsory in schools from twenty twenty seven

969
00:47:31,373 --> 00:47:37,213
Speaker 3: from ages five to fifteen and being taught everything from economics, finances, commerce,

970
00:47:37,253 --> 00:47:40,573
Speaker 3: careers and basic accounting would be the subject areas. But

971
00:47:40,813 --> 00:47:42,693
Speaker 3: we want to ask you what was the best financial

972
00:47:42,693 --> 00:47:46,013
Speaker 3: advice you ever received. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

973
00:47:46,093 --> 00:47:47,093
Speaker 3: is the number to call.

974
00:47:47,253 --> 00:47:49,013
Speaker 2: I feel like I might have thrown my parents under

975
00:47:49,053 --> 00:47:51,732
Speaker 2: the bus actually a little bit there, because I said

976
00:47:51,733 --> 00:47:53,173
Speaker 2: that they didn't really talk about money or give me

977
00:47:53,173 --> 00:47:55,493
Speaker 2: any financial advice. But one piece of really great advice

978
00:47:55,493 --> 00:47:57,333
Speaker 2: that my dad gave me once is we had our

979
00:47:57,373 --> 00:47:59,693
Speaker 2: cousins were arriving and we'd just my parents had just

980
00:47:59,693 --> 00:48:01,933
Speaker 2: brought a new commodore. Nice was pretty cool and I

981
00:48:02,253 --> 00:48:04,973
Speaker 2: proud of it. And then our cousins arrived, who drove

982
00:48:05,093 --> 00:48:08,733
Speaker 2: forwards because my uncle worked at a Ford dealership and

983
00:48:08,733 --> 00:48:11,133
Speaker 2: he turned up in sort of a slightly older car right,

984
00:48:11,133 --> 00:48:13,373
Speaker 2: and I was like, our car is better than yours,

985
00:48:13,933 --> 00:48:15,933
Speaker 2: Our car is better than yours, and my dad such

986
00:48:15,973 --> 00:48:17,933
Speaker 2: a kid thing to do. My dad grabbed me by

987
00:48:17,933 --> 00:48:20,652
Speaker 2: the ear and dragged me around to the side of

988
00:48:20,653 --> 00:48:23,453
Speaker 2: the house and gave me a whack and said to me, look,

989
00:48:23,813 --> 00:48:28,373
Speaker 2: you never if Lord, what you have over other people,

990
00:48:28,413 --> 00:48:30,413
Speaker 2: if you've got more than other people than you shut

991
00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:33,133
Speaker 2: up about it. Well, great advice, I remember it now.

992
00:48:33,173 --> 00:48:34,813
Speaker 2: How old would you have been, I reckon I have

993
00:48:34,853 --> 00:48:35,493
Speaker 2: been five.

994
00:48:35,773 --> 00:48:39,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, your old thing to do? Any kit under ten,

995
00:48:39,813 --> 00:48:42,013
Speaker 3: that is a very child thing to do.

996
00:48:42,093 --> 00:48:44,293
Speaker 2: But yeah, great advice. In my defense, I thought my

997
00:48:44,373 --> 00:48:46,293
Speaker 2: uncle owned all the cars and his dealership when we're

998
00:48:46,373 --> 00:48:48,013
Speaker 2: visiting him in the cargo so I thought he had

999
00:48:48,093 --> 00:48:51,853
Speaker 2: hundreds of cars. We've got one car better than yours.

1000
00:48:51,893 --> 00:48:54,453
Speaker 3: Bring the bet Afford. Oh one eighty ten eighty is

1001
00:48:54,493 --> 00:48:58,333
Speaker 3: the number to call. The best financial advice you received.

1002
00:48:58,373 --> 00:49:00,973
Speaker 2: Scott welcomed the show here.

1003
00:49:01,213 --> 00:49:05,093
Speaker 20: You're on today, guys, the best finances you can ever do.

1004
00:49:05,173 --> 00:49:07,333
Speaker 20: So when you put your money in your lord, yep,

1005
00:49:07,853 --> 00:49:09,973
Speaker 20: and the end of the week you've got no money left,

1006
00:49:10,013 --> 00:49:11,413
Speaker 20: you've done your finance.

1007
00:49:12,653 --> 00:49:13,933
Speaker 3: No money, no savings.

1008
00:49:14,293 --> 00:49:16,453
Speaker 20: Well, yeah, you know if you no good, you don't

1009
00:49:16,453 --> 00:49:17,893
Speaker 20: have any money left over, do you?

1010
00:49:18,013 --> 00:49:18,732
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1011
00:49:18,773 --> 00:49:20,173
Speaker 20: But then if you've got to, if you've got a

1012
00:49:20,253 --> 00:49:22,693
Speaker 20: left card, if post card, or a credit card or

1013
00:49:22,733 --> 00:49:25,133
Speaker 20: any card, if you still put you one hundred dollars

1014
00:49:25,133 --> 00:49:27,253
Speaker 20: down and you're getting more money for your door. No

1015
00:49:27,293 --> 00:49:29,252
Speaker 20: one else is taking the percentage of your door either.

1016
00:49:29,373 --> 00:49:31,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're you're full on in the cash game.

1017
00:49:31,893 --> 00:49:34,053
Speaker 3: That's in. You get your paycheck, you take it out

1018
00:49:34,053 --> 00:49:35,652
Speaker 3: of the bank, and then you allocate what you're going

1019
00:49:35,733 --> 00:49:36,533
Speaker 3: to spend in a week.

1020
00:49:37,373 --> 00:49:39,413
Speaker 20: Well, I take out cash, Yeah, I take it out

1021
00:49:39,453 --> 00:49:41,093
Speaker 20: putting the wallet, and I know how much money I

1022
00:49:41,133 --> 00:49:44,493
Speaker 20: was spent. I don't And also not paying any bank.

1023
00:49:44,253 --> 00:49:47,413
Speaker 24: Fest right, you're getting screwed.

1024
00:49:47,413 --> 00:49:49,733
Speaker 20: You already paid tax on that money. Do you feel

1025
00:49:50,453 --> 00:49:53,173
Speaker 20: why you should you give the banks any more of

1026
00:49:53,213 --> 00:49:53,773
Speaker 20: your money?

1027
00:49:54,053 --> 00:49:54,853
Speaker 2: Do you?

1028
00:49:54,933 --> 00:49:55,013
Speaker 15: Do?

1029
00:49:55,093 --> 00:49:57,893
Speaker 2: You worry about losing that wallet because you know when

1030
00:49:57,933 --> 00:50:00,333
Speaker 2: you do lose a wallet, then the wallet will be

1031
00:50:00,333 --> 00:50:01,973
Speaker 2: returned withe a we credit cards on it and such,

1032
00:50:02,013 --> 00:50:03,252
Speaker 2: but the money will never be in there.

1033
00:50:04,293 --> 00:50:06,053
Speaker 20: That's all right, saves in your back pocket.

1034
00:50:06,373 --> 00:50:10,333
Speaker 2: Yep, You've never you've ever lost any money caring cash around?

1035
00:50:11,893 --> 00:50:14,653
Speaker 20: I think also responsible, I think.

1036
00:50:14,533 --> 00:50:16,853
Speaker 2: Also with Scott, there's another thing about cash that we

1037
00:50:16,893 --> 00:50:19,212
Speaker 2: forget because when you pay with cash and you count

1038
00:50:19,213 --> 00:50:20,893
Speaker 2: it out, it's a physical thing and you feel the

1039
00:50:20,933 --> 00:50:25,493
Speaker 2: money leaving you, as opposed to just swiping and walking away.

1040
00:50:25,733 --> 00:50:28,733
Speaker 2: You never actually feel that money or or whatever, or

1041
00:50:28,853 --> 00:50:31,133
Speaker 2: you know, online banking, you don't feel it in the

1042
00:50:31,173 --> 00:50:32,973
Speaker 2: same way as you do if you hand over money

1043
00:50:33,013 --> 00:50:33,893
Speaker 2: and get changed back.

1044
00:50:34,853 --> 00:50:36,733
Speaker 20: Well, there's so many people out in this country at

1045
00:50:36,733 --> 00:50:39,373
Speaker 20: the moment suffer, you know, if one of them, you

1046
00:50:39,413 --> 00:50:41,373
Speaker 20: don't need to go and get a Budgets advisors tell

1047
00:50:41,413 --> 00:50:42,813
Speaker 20: you how you spend your money. But if you spend

1048
00:50:42,813 --> 00:50:44,213
Speaker 20: your money and it's in your what and you go

1049
00:50:44,293 --> 00:50:47,172
Speaker 20: to the shop and you spend it and you can

1050
00:50:47,213 --> 00:50:49,093
Speaker 20: actually count how much lest you got left over.

1051
00:50:49,453 --> 00:50:51,573
Speaker 3: The only I tried that technique, Scott, and the only

1052
00:50:51,613 --> 00:50:53,413
Speaker 3: thing that let me down is you start off with

1053
00:50:53,453 --> 00:50:55,053
Speaker 3: the notes and the big notes, and then you go

1054
00:50:55,093 --> 00:50:57,293
Speaker 3: and buy stuff, and then you slowly get more and

1055
00:50:57,373 --> 00:51:00,533
Speaker 3: more of the coins that just end up being massive. Edmond.

1056
00:51:00,533 --> 00:51:01,933
Speaker 2: It's like, what am I going to do with all

1057
00:51:01,973 --> 00:51:03,653
Speaker 2: these coins? Piggybank trailer?

1058
00:51:03,733 --> 00:51:05,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I should have thought about that, But in

1059
00:51:05,493 --> 00:51:08,692
Speaker 3: the end I don't even know what coins. I think

1060
00:51:08,733 --> 00:51:10,573
Speaker 3: they just I just lost them behind the couch. And

1061
00:51:11,693 --> 00:51:13,533
Speaker 3: but that was the only thing that I found, Scott

1062
00:51:13,533 --> 00:51:15,013
Speaker 3: that was a bit hard to manage on that one.

1063
00:51:14,893 --> 00:51:15,573
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

1064
00:51:15,613 --> 00:51:19,652
Speaker 3: Though, guys, the best piece of financial advice was to

1065
00:51:19,933 --> 00:51:23,453
Speaker 3: remember that cars are reliability, not an asset, and to

1066
00:51:23,533 --> 00:51:26,933
Speaker 3: always buy the cheapest, reliable car that your self esteem

1067
00:51:27,013 --> 00:51:29,253
Speaker 3: can handle. Passed it on to my kids and they

1068
00:51:29,333 --> 00:51:32,413
Speaker 3: followed it well, saving thousands of dollars over the years.

1069
00:51:32,413 --> 00:51:34,573
Speaker 2: From k Yeah, you were buying a car, you have

1070
00:51:34,613 --> 00:51:37,853
Speaker 2: to decide whether you are buying it to show off,

1071
00:51:38,413 --> 00:51:41,853
Speaker 2: whether you think as a status symbol, because cars will

1072
00:51:41,853 --> 00:51:44,013
Speaker 2: lose you a lot of money, not not just not

1073
00:51:44,133 --> 00:51:49,053
Speaker 2: just in petrol and and servicing, but also in their

1074
00:51:49,053 --> 00:51:51,933
Speaker 2: massive depreciation once you buy them. Right. So you know,

1075
00:51:51,973 --> 00:51:53,453
Speaker 2: as the saying goes, as soon as you drive it

1076
00:51:53,453 --> 00:51:56,172
Speaker 2: off the lot a new cars, you've lost that you've

1077
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Speaker 2: lost a big whack of money, right because it's now secondhand.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've told you many times that I when we

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Speaker 3: ticked up the car that we've got currently, and it's

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Speaker 3: a nice car, I think wrong with I really enjoyed

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Speaker 3: the car. But man, we've lost some money on there

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Speaker 3: vehicle as soon as we drove it off the light,

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Speaker 3: and it's reduced in price. I'll never take up a

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Speaker 3: car again. That was so stupid.

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Speaker 2: You've told me so many so there's not a day

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Speaker 2: that goes past Tyler where you don't talk about you know,

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Speaker 2: you go, oh, okay, it's a good car, but but

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Speaker 2: we've lost a lot of money on it.

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Speaker 3: It's my Scrooge that's coming out and it's the one

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Speaker 3: big mistake.

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Speaker 2: But but you know, it's a nice car. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, you've driven me around a few places in it.

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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, it's a nice car. So it's working.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to run it into the ground, going to

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Speaker 3: last me twenty years, So yeah, maybe not all is lost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just don't don't buy it. Don't buy a car

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Speaker 2: to impress me. Yeah, you know. And luckily working at news,

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Speaker 2: took said, but you're always going to park up side

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Speaker 2: my costumes car, so you're never going to be able

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Speaker 2: to press anyway.

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Speaker 3: It's a very good point. It's spot on. Oh eight,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 3: call best piece of financial advice you received. It's twenty

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Speaker 3: two pass too.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on us talk ZV.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: It's twenty four past two and we have asked the

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00:53:06,093 --> 00:53:08,013
Speaker 3: question what is the best piece of financial advice you

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00:53:08,013 --> 00:53:11,133
Speaker 3: ever received? On the back of financial education to become

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00:53:11,373 --> 00:53:14,933
Speaker 3: compulsory in schools from twenty twenty seven that was announced yesterday.

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00:53:15,493 --> 00:53:19,093
Speaker 3: This takes to sears, guys, the I've just lost it.

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00:53:19,173 --> 00:53:21,373
Speaker 3: The best piece of advice I got time in the

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00:53:21,373 --> 00:53:23,373
Speaker 3: market beats timing in the market.

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Speaker 2: Oh yep, that's right. That as good asn't it? There

1116
00:53:26,053 --> 00:53:27,933
Speaker 2: you go, Yeah, you don't day trade, you know, you

1117
00:53:27,973 --> 00:53:29,853
Speaker 2: don't panic, you don't look at it every day. Chuck

1118
00:53:29,893 --> 00:53:31,613
Speaker 2: it on a we fund and just leave it, sit

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00:53:31,693 --> 00:53:36,293
Speaker 2: and forget. Yeah, run around, sit here and fire strip naked,

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Speaker 2: cave yourself and fieces just because your key we save

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Speaker 2: it went down a little bit from day to day.

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Speaker 3: You can do that if you want to. But you know,

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Speaker 3: there's purely just for fun rather than making money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no judgments, No no judgments here. Richard's

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on financial advice.

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Speaker 23: Oh hey, guys, my old man was a very conservative accountant,

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Speaker 23: and he always encouraged us to save for stuff that

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Speaker 23: we wanted to buy when we were kids. And obviously

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Speaker 23: that's easy enough to do if you if you're just.

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Speaker 15: Looking at that small ticket stuff. But the other thing

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Speaker 15: that I wanted.

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Speaker 23: To mention was that I one hundred percent disagree was Heather.

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Speaker 23: I think school definitely is the place where financial literacy

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Speaker 23: should be taught.

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Speaker 25: I don't think it's.

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Speaker 23: Something that you can rely on your parents to teach you,

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Speaker 23: you know. And part of the reason for that. I'm

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Speaker 23: a mortgage advisor, and so I see young kids coming

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00:54:45,573 --> 00:54:49,453
Speaker 23: to me wanting to buy their first homes, and they've

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Speaker 23: settled themselves up with a whole lot of really bad debt.

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Speaker 23: And by bad debt, I mean you know stuff like

1142
00:54:57,493 --> 00:55:02,133
Speaker 23: you buy now, pay later, credit card debt, personal loans,

1143
00:55:02,773 --> 00:55:07,853
Speaker 23: that sort of thing, and that impacts their ability to

1144
00:55:07,933 --> 00:55:11,652
Speaker 23: be to get a mortgage. And that's the sort of

1145
00:55:11,653 --> 00:55:15,213
Speaker 23: stuff I feel anyway that schools should be teaching kids about.

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Speaker 2: It's a fair point.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when it comes to, you know, parents teaching

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Speaker 3: their kids about financial literacy, do you think a part

1149
00:55:22,373 --> 00:55:25,093
Speaker 3: of that, Richard, is that whether it's a new Zealand

1150
00:55:25,693 --> 00:55:28,453
Speaker 3: mentality or a worldwide mentality. We've got this funny thing

1151
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Speaker 3: about talking about money. We don't tend to talk much

1152
00:55:31,693 --> 00:55:33,293
Speaker 3: about how to make money and what to do with

1153
00:55:33,333 --> 00:55:35,693
Speaker 3: money because somehow we think it's bothful.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 23: I mean I think it's like the conversation you guys

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00:55:41,693 --> 00:55:45,533
Speaker 23: had the other day about sex education, right, I mean,

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Speaker 23: it wasn't a conversation I was that comfortable having with

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Speaker 23: my folks. And yeah, look, I do think you're right,

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Speaker 23: But you know, there's you're kind of working on the

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Speaker 23: basis that mom and dad kind of have some intricate

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00:56:04,093 --> 00:56:09,093
Speaker 23: knowledge of financial literacy themselves, whereas you know, for for

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00:56:09,253 --> 00:56:13,733
Speaker 23: most people, for most Kiwi's or a good proportion of them. Anyway,

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Speaker 23: I'm not sure that's actually the case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder though. You can do sort of basic

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Speaker 2: things like not paying for everything so they have to

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Speaker 2: save up for something. You know, they ask for something

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Speaker 2: and you go, no, you're gonna have to You're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to save up for that, even if it's pocket money,

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Speaker 2: So you might not have to have an intricate knowledge

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Speaker 2: or other things like saying like encouraging them as hardly

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Speaker 2: hard as you can to get a job when they're

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Speaker 2: they're younger, and you know, little things like you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, getting them a bank account early, and and

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Speaker 2: you know, there's little things you could do even if

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Speaker 2: you don't have an intricate knowledge.

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Speaker 23: Do you agree, right, yeah, yes, yeah, I do. I

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Speaker 23: do agree for sure. Yeah. But but you know there's

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Speaker 23: there's other things as well, like you know, key we say,

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Speaker 23: that is such a big thing for kids to get

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Speaker 23: into these days, and you know, I would encourage them

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Speaker 23: from the day they start work to get into key

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Speaker 23: we savor because I think I think things like that

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Speaker 23: when they're in it themselves, you know, they can start

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Speaker 23: learning about how divestifying your asset base and compounding interests

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Speaker 23: and all that sort of thing kind of flows on

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Speaker 23: from that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a big one.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: The reason I think my parents or dad in particular,

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Speaker 3: didn't teach me about that is he got a bit

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Speaker 3: spooped after the eighty seven crash, and that was a

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Speaker 3: generational thing that there was a couple of financial disasters

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Speaker 3: in the world and people lost a lot of money

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Speaker 3: in the share market. So I remember quite clearly Dad

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Speaker 3: said that I wouldn't be trusting the share market. You

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Speaker 3: work hard and that's the way to earn the money,

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Speaker 3: and don't trust the share market.

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Speaker 2: Well that was a problem from New Zealand, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: So in the eighties everyone had the share market high

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Speaker 2: and then that crashed and as a result, everyone ran

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Speaker 2: off to property and ever went back to the share

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Speaker 2: market again, unfortunately for a lot of productivity in this.

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Speaker 3: Country exactly, but missing out on that. They had advice

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Speaker 3: about compound interest. You know, if I'd got into into

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Speaker 3: that game at eighteen, I'd be far better off now

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Speaker 3: than I am, you know, figuring that out in my thirties.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Richard, great to chat, Thank you very much. I

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Speaker 3: watee hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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Speaker 3: keen on the best piece of financial advice you ever received. Oh,

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Speaker 3: this one's good. Best financial advice was to join the

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Speaker 3: super scheme as soon as I started work. Sixty two

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Speaker 3: years later, I'm living off the super.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah there you yeah. By so many people love

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00:58:44,813 --> 00:58:47,413
Speaker 2: that saying that we got through from that that caller

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Speaker 2: by the cheapest car your ego can afford.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good line, isn't it a great line?

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Speaker 3: All right, headlines with ray Lean coming up, but keen

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Speaker 3: on your thoughts. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 3: the number to call.

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Speaker 19: You talk, said the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's

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Speaker 19: no trouble with a Blue Bubble. All flights are canceled

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Speaker 19: in and dart of Wellington this afternoon during a red

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Speaker 19: wind warning in New Zealand, saying its services could resume

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Speaker 19: from six pm. Four flights made it out of the

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Speaker 19: capitol this morning. One jet Star flight from Auckland had

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Speaker 19: a missed approach. Orange wind warnings cover Marlborough and wided

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Speaker 19: upper and orange rain warnings in Canterbury and Cai Cooder.

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Speaker 19: In christ Church, a large slip has come down on

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Speaker 19: Summit Road. Selwyn's under a state of emergency. More than

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Speaker 19: five thousand senior doctors are picketing across the country asking

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Speaker 19: for a one point five percent pay rise. Hospitals are

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Speaker 19: still open, but many planned procedures have been effected. Antarctica

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Speaker 19: New Zealand says it's delighted the government's committed forty nine

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Speaker 19: million dollars to keep the Antarctic Science Platform running seven

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Speaker 19: more years. The Acting Ministry of Education, a chief executive

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Speaker 19: Alan MacGregor Reid has been appointed to the job for

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Speaker 19: another year after taking it on in October from Amelia Lindsay.

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Speaker 19: Driving growth and prosperity in a nation that loves to win.

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Speaker 19: back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Ray Lena.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the best piece of financial advice you've

1244
01:00:20,253 --> 01:00:23,253
Speaker 3: ever received. It is on the back of financial literacy

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01:00:23,373 --> 01:00:26,373
Speaker 3: education to become compulsory in schools from twenty twenty seven.

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01:00:27,253 --> 01:00:29,973
Speaker 2: Some great texts coming through. Good afternoon with the best

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01:00:29,973 --> 01:00:31,773
Speaker 2: financial advice I was told when I was a teen

1248
01:00:31,933 --> 01:00:35,653
Speaker 2: was from an elderly gentleman. You're not necessarily a rich

1249
01:00:35,693 --> 01:00:37,813
Speaker 2: man if you make a lot of money, but you

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01:00:37,853 --> 01:00:39,693
Speaker 2: can be a rich man if you save a lot

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Speaker 2: of money. There you go, that's great advice, is it? Greg?

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Speaker 2: I think we've got Greg on the line. No, Pam, Sorry, Hey,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show. Pam. Your thoughts on financial advice?

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Speaker 2: How are you? You're good?

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Speaker 18: Hi?

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Speaker 15: Good?

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Speaker 6: Thanks?

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Speaker 26: Mine came from my father. My financial advice. It's when

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01:00:59,413 --> 01:01:01,933
Speaker 26: I first went nursing. I'm in my seventies now I'm

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01:01:01,933 --> 01:01:04,933
Speaker 26: a seventies. And when I first went nursing, she said

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Speaker 26: the National Problem Fund. I must get into it that.

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Speaker 2: No, the providence. Did you say National providence?

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Speaker 20: National providence.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've heard of it. Explain it to us, please, ma'am.

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Speaker 26: Oh, it's just that you put so much. And I

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01:01:19,693 --> 01:01:23,053
Speaker 26: think I started out at three percent my wages and

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Speaker 26: then they they met it.

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Speaker 2: Your employer meant it right, yes, so super super schied

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Speaker 2: yeah yeah.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, one of those.

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Speaker 26: And now that I'm you know, mid seventies, it's been wonderful.

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Speaker 26: I've had this, you know, I have it as a

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01:01:38,293 --> 01:01:40,933
Speaker 26: like pension. Every month I get Manica into it.

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Speaker 2: How many years do you think you put into that?

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Speaker 2: Do you know how many years you put into that? Pan?

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Speaker 2: About about forty forty yep. Yeah, it's a solid.

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Speaker 24: Run, sexy because of that.

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Speaker 2: And and what did.

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Speaker 3: They meet you to? I take it there was a cap.

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Speaker 3: What did it so if you put in ten percent

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Speaker 3: that that met your ten percent?

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Speaker 26: I'm not sure now.

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Speaker 24: I never got up there.

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Speaker 26: High I got six percent was the highest day.

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Speaker 6: But put into it.

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Speaker 2: Right, and they met your six percent? Yes, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 2: very good.

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Speaker 26: They closed it down. They closed it down after a

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Speaker 26: year I've been nursing and they closed it.

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Speaker 2: I wonder.

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01:02:23,373 --> 01:02:25,333
Speaker 3: I mean when I first started in the workforce and

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01:02:25,373 --> 01:02:27,693
Speaker 3: I worked for it was effectively food stuffs, but it

1293
01:02:27,773 --> 01:02:31,293
Speaker 3: was the branch that supplied groceries to the supermarkets. But

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01:02:31,333 --> 01:02:33,333
Speaker 3: there was a bunch of older workers there and they

1295
01:02:33,373 --> 01:02:35,213
Speaker 3: were on a similar scheme.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that was it, but they a lot of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of the older workers were very flush

1298
01:02:41,613 --> 01:02:43,813
Speaker 3: after being in that scheme and it was exactly that

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01:02:43,813 --> 01:02:47,813
Speaker 3: that they put in. Yeah, yeah, I mean if they

1300
01:02:47,813 --> 01:02:49,333
Speaker 3: could bring that back, I think there'd be a lot

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Speaker 3: of happy people. I Mean, Key We Saber is pretty good.

1302
01:02:52,053 --> 01:02:53,853
Speaker 3: I'm very glad that we've got Keywi Saber.

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01:02:54,893 --> 01:02:56,453
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people are pointing that out

1304
01:02:56,493 --> 01:02:58,173
Speaker 2: that that is probably the best advice as soon as

1305
01:02:58,213 --> 01:03:01,293
Speaker 2: they get their first employment to do, you know, start

1306
01:03:01,293 --> 01:03:03,373
Speaker 2: putting some money in there. It's very hard for a

1307
01:03:03,453 --> 01:03:07,813
Speaker 2: kid that's eighteen, nineteen twenty because they think they're going

1308
01:03:07,893 --> 01:03:09,693
Speaker 2: to live for rever and the last thing they care

1309
01:03:09,733 --> 01:03:12,053
Speaker 2: about is they're sixty five year old self. Yeah, I mean,

1310
01:03:12,373 --> 01:03:15,053
Speaker 2: if you're eighteen or twenty, you're definitely not going to

1311
01:03:15,093 --> 01:03:16,693
Speaker 2: retire at sixty five. At some point, they're going to

1312
01:03:16,693 --> 01:03:20,253
Speaker 2: move that up. Yeah, aren't they button, But it's very hard.

1313
01:03:20,453 --> 01:03:22,653
Speaker 2: But if you can, boy, oh boy, you would thank

1314
01:03:22,653 --> 01:03:25,373
Speaker 2: your younger self for doing that one exactly.

1315
01:03:25,613 --> 01:03:27,653
Speaker 3: But you know, if it's said and forget and you

1316
01:03:27,693 --> 01:03:29,613
Speaker 3: sign up for key we Save, it is it opt in?

1317
01:03:30,333 --> 01:03:33,333
Speaker 3: I think key we saver might be opt in. I

1318
01:03:33,333 --> 01:03:35,053
Speaker 3: mean that's a big thing there, that key we saver

1319
01:03:35,133 --> 01:03:38,293
Speaker 3: should you should automatically be enrolled into key we Saver

1320
01:03:38,413 --> 01:03:39,973
Speaker 3: and then all these young workers don't have to worry

1321
01:03:40,013 --> 01:03:41,933
Speaker 3: about it. It's just money that goes there, and it's

1322
01:03:41,933 --> 01:03:42,573
Speaker 3: set and forget.

1323
01:03:42,733 --> 01:03:46,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, but you also can can be smart and

1324
01:03:46,133 --> 01:03:48,093
Speaker 2: put more money in. You can choose how much you

1325
01:03:48,693 --> 01:03:51,533
Speaker 2: put in there, and so as much as you can

1326
01:03:51,733 --> 01:03:54,293
Speaker 2: you get it in there, have it in there. A

1327
01:03:54,373 --> 01:03:55,493
Speaker 2: couple of texts here, guys.

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Speaker 3: Best advice I got was treat it as if you

1329
01:03:59,013 --> 01:04:02,013
Speaker 3: never had it, meaning, if you had a decent chunk

1330
01:04:02,053 --> 01:04:05,253
Speaker 3: of money, put it away, no term deposits, invest it,

1331
01:04:05,413 --> 01:04:07,773
Speaker 3: then forget about it. If you get paid thirteen hundred

1332
01:04:07,813 --> 01:04:11,053
Speaker 3: bucks zero your debts first, rent, mortgage bills, et cetera,

1333
01:04:11,293 --> 01:04:13,613
Speaker 3: whatever is less, save half. The other half is your

1334
01:04:13,613 --> 01:04:14,253
Speaker 3: fun funds.

1335
01:04:14,733 --> 01:04:17,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, that is quite good advice.

1336
01:04:18,333 --> 01:04:20,053
Speaker 3: It's very in depth. That is a hell of a strategy,

1337
01:04:20,133 --> 01:04:20,693
Speaker 3: but that would work.

1338
01:04:20,693 --> 01:04:22,333
Speaker 2: But it also goes to that thing I was saying before,

1339
01:04:22,493 --> 01:04:25,933
Speaker 2: the idea to automate it. You make your financial decisions

1340
01:04:25,973 --> 01:04:28,053
Speaker 2: one day, sit down and make them, and automate it

1341
01:04:28,093 --> 01:04:30,653
Speaker 2: with the bank. Yep. So it just goes out and

1342
01:04:30,693 --> 01:04:33,413
Speaker 2: you don't ever see that money and never existed what

1343
01:04:33,453 --> 01:04:36,613
Speaker 2: you're saving. Where it's going to know your mortgage payments,

1344
01:04:37,013 --> 01:04:39,613
Speaker 2: anything you're going to save, anything that you want to

1345
01:04:39,613 --> 01:04:42,253
Speaker 2: put away for a holiday, like we were talking about yesterday.

1346
01:04:42,293 --> 01:04:44,973
Speaker 2: It's all gone before you get your greedy little hands

1347
01:04:44,973 --> 01:04:46,373
Speaker 2: on it down at the pub spot on.

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01:04:46,493 --> 01:04:48,413
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of techs coming through recommending

1349
01:04:48,413 --> 01:04:50,853
Speaker 3: the Berefoot Investor, and as I understand it, with the

1350
01:04:50,853 --> 01:04:54,493
Speaker 3: Barefoot Investor book, that is exactly it. It's just fully automated.

1351
01:04:55,053 --> 01:04:57,373
Speaker 3: So you've got your wee pools of money, and that

1352
01:04:57,493 --> 01:04:58,173
Speaker 3: sorts you out.

1353
01:04:58,093 --> 01:05:02,453
Speaker 2: Because we're weak and useless protheter and so instead of

1354
01:05:02,853 --> 01:05:06,093
Speaker 2: so force yourself to be a good saver and a

1355
01:05:06,093 --> 01:05:09,733
Speaker 2: good financial person before you even get anywhere near ruining it.

1356
01:05:10,293 --> 01:05:13,093
Speaker 2: So rather than just having the willpower, you know, back

1357
01:05:13,093 --> 01:05:15,093
Speaker 2: in the day yet to go and hand it out

1358
01:05:15,133 --> 01:05:18,333
Speaker 2: to different people walk around. Do people used to do that?

1359
01:05:18,693 --> 01:05:19,773
Speaker 2: Did you used to have to go and if you

1360
01:05:19,813 --> 01:05:21,733
Speaker 2: were like renting that you'd go and pay the rent

1361
01:05:21,733 --> 01:05:23,733
Speaker 2: with cash on an envelope.

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01:05:24,533 --> 01:05:27,453
Speaker 3: I remember my first pay packet was and it was

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01:05:27,493 --> 01:05:28,973
Speaker 3: that it was a pay packet that I got a

1364
01:05:28,973 --> 01:05:31,253
Speaker 3: wee brown envelope with my pay in cash.

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01:05:31,293 --> 01:05:34,293
Speaker 2: That must have been so hard for people. Yeah, because

1366
01:05:34,333 --> 01:05:36,853
Speaker 2: you finish up, maybe got paid, and you have this

1367
01:05:36,893 --> 01:05:39,573
Speaker 2: little bag of money and with a little receipt on

1368
01:05:39,613 --> 01:05:42,613
Speaker 2: how much paid. Some of it's for the electricity bill,

1369
01:05:42,813 --> 01:05:45,453
Speaker 2: some of it's for rent, some of it's for food,

1370
01:05:45,653 --> 01:05:47,373
Speaker 2: but all of it's in your pocket when you're at

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01:05:47,373 --> 01:05:47,653
Speaker 2: the pub.

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Speaker 3: Exactly one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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01:05:51,293 --> 01:05:53,133
Speaker 3: to call Love to hear your thoughts on the best

1374
01:05:53,133 --> 01:05:55,813
Speaker 3: financial advice you got, Dan.

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01:05:56,213 --> 01:06:00,253
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Just a second. There you go,

1376
01:06:00,893 --> 01:06:03,773
Speaker 2: your thoughts. What's your advice financially for young people?

1377
01:06:04,573 --> 01:06:06,613
Speaker 24: Well, it was very similar to a text you guys

1378
01:06:06,613 --> 01:06:09,253
Speaker 24: read out just before. Actually it was the two bank account.

1379
01:06:10,573 --> 01:06:12,853
Speaker 24: The money goes in however much you want to save

1380
01:06:12,973 --> 01:06:16,333
Speaker 24: that goes into the savings Vancount and the rest is

1381
01:06:16,333 --> 01:06:17,853
Speaker 24: what you live on for the rest of the week.

1382
01:06:18,093 --> 01:06:22,973
Speaker 24: And that stood me in goodstead. And I I've got

1383
01:06:22,973 --> 01:06:25,333
Speaker 24: a car. One since you fells are talking about cars before,

1384
01:06:26,573 --> 01:06:30,053
Speaker 24: in fact there's too one as avoid European and the

1385
01:06:30,093 --> 01:06:32,413
Speaker 24: other one that's very similar to that is if you

1386
01:06:32,453 --> 01:06:34,813
Speaker 24: can't afford to fix it, you can't afford to own it.

1387
01:06:35,613 --> 01:06:38,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. My dad used to say to me that,

1388
01:06:39,853 --> 01:06:41,933
Speaker 2: and I've actually I've besmirched him by saying he never

1389
01:06:41,933 --> 01:06:44,133
Speaker 2: gave me financial advice, and then I think what happened

1390
01:06:44,213 --> 01:06:45,413
Speaker 2: is he gave me a lot and I never listen

1391
01:06:45,453 --> 01:06:48,893
Speaker 2: to it. Yeah. Another one who goes expect son, expect

1392
01:06:49,013 --> 01:06:51,533
Speaker 2: to spend as much on fixing that car as you

1393
01:06:51,613 --> 01:06:55,493
Speaker 2: do on gas. That's what he's there. That was a

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01:06:55,533 --> 01:06:58,853
Speaker 2: Mark two courtener, though he was right about that. I

1395
01:06:58,933 --> 01:07:02,773
Speaker 2: think if you call Dan, appreciate that. I think Dan disappeared. Yeah.

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01:07:02,853 --> 01:07:05,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys get health insurance when you're young and healthy,

1397
01:07:06,133 --> 01:07:08,533
Speaker 3: not when you're old and when you need it, and

1398
01:07:08,573 --> 01:07:09,573
Speaker 3: it's expensive.

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01:07:09,693 --> 01:07:12,813
Speaker 2: It is quite literally a life save it sometimes. Yeah,

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01:07:12,853 --> 01:07:16,533
Speaker 2: and Tyler Key saver is not compulsory, but employees are

1401
01:07:16,533 --> 01:07:20,093
Speaker 2: required to automatically enroll employees aged eighteen to sixty five.

1402
01:07:20,373 --> 01:07:22,773
Speaker 2: But you can opt out within a certain time frame.

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01:07:23,053 --> 01:07:25,813
Speaker 2: If you don't opt out, you are a key we

1404
01:07:25,973 --> 01:07:28,613
Speaker 2: saver member. Introductions become automatic.

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01:07:28,693 --> 01:07:31,133
Speaker 3: That is great to hear. Good, yeah, good on the government.

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01:07:31,133 --> 01:07:33,053
Speaker 3: All right, one right, oh, one hundred and eighty ten

1407
01:07:33,133 --> 01:07:35,613
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. It is nineteen to three.

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01:07:36,973 --> 01:07:39,413
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

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01:07:39,453 --> 01:07:43,093
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons us.

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01:07:43,013 --> 01:07:47,213
Speaker 3: Talk, sai'd be good afternoon. We are talking about financial literacy.

1411
01:07:47,253 --> 01:07:49,573
Speaker 3: What was the best piece of financial advice you ever

1412
01:07:49,653 --> 01:07:51,133
Speaker 3: received in your life?

1413
01:07:51,213 --> 01:07:54,613
Speaker 2: Well, here's some financial advice from Bo Didley. Okay, don't

1414
01:07:54,693 --> 01:07:57,213
Speaker 2: let your mouth write no check that your tail can't cash.

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01:07:57,813 --> 01:08:01,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great quote, very good advice from Bo Diddley.

1416
01:08:02,453 --> 01:08:05,213
Speaker 2: Do not save what is left after spending. Instead, spend

1417
01:08:05,253 --> 01:08:08,733
Speaker 2: what is left after saving, says Warren Buffett. Yeah that

1418
01:08:08,893 --> 01:08:11,173
Speaker 2: is good. I mean there's a thousand Warren Buffet quotes,

1419
01:08:11,213 --> 01:08:11,493
Speaker 2: isn't there.

1420
01:08:11,693 --> 01:08:15,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, But when it comes to you know, saving money

1421
01:08:15,373 --> 01:08:18,213
Speaker 3: and earning money, Warren Buffett is certainly one of the.

1422
01:08:18,133 --> 01:08:20,693
Speaker 2: Best playto is pretty good. The greatest wealth is to

1423
01:08:20,733 --> 01:08:24,532
Speaker 2: live content with little. You get more time, one more time.

1424
01:08:24,772 --> 01:08:30,612
Speaker 2: The greatest wealth is to live content with little. Yeah. Well,

1425
01:08:30,652 --> 01:08:34,532
Speaker 2: that that's not really saving, is it. That's just well,

1426
01:08:34,572 --> 01:08:37,093
Speaker 2: it's similar to Seneca who said it's not the man

1427
01:08:37,213 --> 01:08:39,492
Speaker 2: who has too little, but the man who craves more

1428
01:08:39,532 --> 01:08:40,092
Speaker 2: that is poor.

1429
01:08:40,213 --> 01:08:42,652
Speaker 3: Oh that's good. I like that one. Yeah, Senega for

1430
01:08:42,732 --> 01:08:42,932
Speaker 3: the one.

1431
01:08:43,013 --> 01:08:45,812
Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you're going to say, you know, if

1432
01:08:45,853 --> 01:08:48,772
Speaker 2: you can control your wants such that you can save

1433
01:08:48,853 --> 01:08:51,412
Speaker 2: a lot of money instead of spending on a flesh

1434
01:08:51,612 --> 01:08:56,012
Speaker 2: car yep or whatever, new Telly, whatever, whatever the latest

1435
01:08:56,013 --> 01:09:01,692
Speaker 2: thing that's lego, then you will you will end up

1436
01:09:01,692 --> 01:09:04,732
Speaker 2: more with with more you in your savings account.

1437
01:09:04,933 --> 01:09:06,812
Speaker 3: Brown, how are you this afternoon?

1438
01:09:07,652 --> 01:09:08,812
Speaker 27: I'm very good? Thank you?

1439
01:09:08,893 --> 01:09:10,932
Speaker 2: How are you very good? What do you got for us?

1440
01:09:10,973 --> 01:09:12,972
Speaker 2: What was the best piece of financial advice?

1441
01:09:13,893 --> 01:09:16,652
Speaker 27: Okay, so I'll take you back to nineteen seventy seven.

1442
01:09:16,973 --> 01:09:19,693
Speaker 2: Ye I Wars came out.

1443
01:09:20,293 --> 01:09:23,452
Speaker 27: I was fifteen years old. So I got my first

1444
01:09:23,532 --> 01:09:27,333
Speaker 27: job at fifteen, and my mother said to me, right,

1445
01:09:27,492 --> 01:09:30,013
Speaker 27: what you've got to do. You've got a bank a

1446
01:09:30,053 --> 01:09:33,372
Speaker 27: third of your wage. You've got to give a thirty

1447
01:09:33,412 --> 01:09:37,052
Speaker 27: year wage for board. The other third is for you,

1448
01:09:37,853 --> 01:09:40,493
Speaker 27: and that's what you have to enjoy.

1449
01:09:41,893 --> 01:09:49,253
Speaker 2: To live on. Yes, Yes, and third third Mom, a

1450
01:09:49,293 --> 01:09:52,053
Speaker 2: third board, and a third.

1451
01:09:51,853 --> 01:09:54,253
Speaker 27: To the bank. A third to the bank. She said,

1452
01:09:54,253 --> 01:09:57,812
Speaker 27: to save for your first home. And she said, if

1453
01:09:57,812 --> 01:09:59,692
Speaker 27: you do that straight away, you're never going to miss

1454
01:09:59,732 --> 01:10:02,572
Speaker 27: that money because you know where it's exactly going to.

1455
01:10:04,772 --> 01:10:07,892
Speaker 27: And otherwise, she said to me, Otherwise, she said, you

1456
01:10:07,973 --> 01:10:10,372
Speaker 27: get there third of your money and go and flush

1457
01:10:10,372 --> 01:10:15,172
Speaker 27: it down the toilet. And I was horrified, Yeah, absltly

1458
01:10:15,293 --> 01:10:17,932
Speaker 27: horrified the thought of thinking what flush it down the toilet.

1459
01:10:18,293 --> 01:10:21,732
Speaker 27: She said, because that's what you're going to do if

1460
01:10:21,732 --> 01:10:25,012
Speaker 27: you leave home and go fletting, that's where your money

1461
01:10:25,053 --> 01:10:29,213
Speaker 27: is going to go, down the toilet. And it was

1462
01:10:29,372 --> 01:10:33,932
Speaker 27: the best advice and I did it and I got

1463
01:10:33,933 --> 01:10:38,652
Speaker 27: a home ownership account. Mum secretly put away some of

1464
01:10:38,692 --> 01:10:44,133
Speaker 27: that board money because of what I'd done, and they

1465
01:10:44,173 --> 01:10:47,213
Speaker 27: actually left to live, moved to Australia to live when

1466
01:10:47,213 --> 01:10:51,133
Speaker 27: I was seventeen. So I stayed here because I had

1467
01:10:51,133 --> 01:10:54,812
Speaker 27: a boyfriend and she set me up in a flat

1468
01:10:55,013 --> 01:10:57,892
Speaker 27: and I still had my home ownership account, I had

1469
01:10:57,933 --> 01:11:02,892
Speaker 27: an HP, I paid my rent, My girlfriends would come over,

1470
01:11:03,053 --> 01:11:06,692
Speaker 27: would have a night at my flat. I didn't go

1471
01:11:06,772 --> 01:11:09,852
Speaker 27: out much to the pub, you know, and I was

1472
01:11:09,893 --> 01:11:14,212
Speaker 27: saving my money. And my boyfriend who became my husband,

1473
01:11:15,053 --> 01:11:17,932
Speaker 27: he I got home into the homeownership account because he

1474
01:11:18,013 --> 01:11:21,933
Speaker 27: hadn't been given any advice like that from his parents.

1475
01:11:22,213 --> 01:11:26,852
Speaker 27: And we got our first home before we were twenty.

1476
01:11:27,013 --> 01:11:29,652
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, there you go. Third, third, yep.

1477
01:11:30,293 --> 01:11:32,333
Speaker 3: I mean it's a good, good strategy absolutely, And the

1478
01:11:32,412 --> 01:11:36,132
Speaker 3: husband like that, didn't he Greg, how are you mate?

1479
01:11:37,333 --> 01:11:37,532
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1480
01:11:37,572 --> 01:11:42,452
Speaker 7: Good, thanks Chris. A couple of things seriously. Somebody was

1481
01:11:42,452 --> 01:11:46,372
Speaker 7: talking about insurance and my financial advisor gave me some

1482
01:11:46,412 --> 01:11:49,212
Speaker 7: good advice about that. That was, always keep the insurance

1483
01:11:49,213 --> 01:11:51,692
Speaker 7: you've got because it'll never ever be any better than

1484
01:11:51,692 --> 01:11:53,973
Speaker 7: what you've got, and just add on to what you have.

1485
01:11:54,253 --> 01:11:56,293
Speaker 7: And that's what we did. We had about eight or

1486
01:11:56,333 --> 01:11:58,572
Speaker 7: nine different policies as you get, as you earn more,

1487
01:11:58,612 --> 01:12:01,013
Speaker 7: and as you go forward. That was one device was

1488
01:12:01,013 --> 01:12:01,293
Speaker 7: really good.

1489
01:12:01,333 --> 01:12:04,213
Speaker 2: Now that hanging to me, as he said, what was that?

1490
01:12:04,333 --> 01:12:05,252
Speaker 2: Not shop around?

1491
01:12:06,253 --> 01:12:08,812
Speaker 7: So no, no, but lots of people coming to try

1492
01:12:08,812 --> 01:12:10,333
Speaker 7: and sell your life insurance, to sell you this, to

1493
01:12:10,452 --> 01:12:12,173
Speaker 7: sell you that. Yeah, and they found it's going to

1494
01:12:12,213 --> 01:12:14,572
Speaker 7: be cheaper this year. Look, I can why have you

1495
01:12:14,612 --> 01:12:16,973
Speaker 7: got eight policies and sol because he says, you put

1496
01:12:17,013 --> 01:12:18,772
Speaker 7: it under one, it'll be a lot cheaper. It was

1497
01:12:18,812 --> 01:12:21,173
Speaker 7: only cheaper for the first or second year. After that

1498
01:12:22,293 --> 01:12:23,692
Speaker 7: it got expensive.

1499
01:12:23,213 --> 01:12:24,652
Speaker 20: Because you lost for your hair.

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01:12:25,293 --> 01:12:28,132
Speaker 7: So as I said, we're got about eight different policies,

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01:12:28,133 --> 01:12:32,253
Speaker 7: and you know we got one for the kids. It

1502
01:12:32,372 --> 01:12:34,612
Speaker 7: was thirty thousand dollars eas death coverage. It was two

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01:12:34,612 --> 01:12:37,732
Speaker 7: dollars and thirty five cents a month, and that's going

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01:12:37,772 --> 01:12:41,133
Speaker 7: back twenty but nearly thirty years we still pay that.

1505
01:12:41,973 --> 01:12:46,093
Speaker 7: And now that my settler's overseas, it's worthwhile if something

1506
01:12:46,133 --> 01:12:48,972
Speaker 7: goes wrong, does that makes sense for two dollars thavy month.

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01:12:49,173 --> 01:12:50,492
Speaker 7: But that's not the best advice.

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01:12:50,532 --> 01:12:50,933
Speaker 2: It gave me.

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01:12:50,973 --> 01:12:53,253
Speaker 7: The best advice I ever got given by him was

1510
01:12:53,612 --> 01:12:57,612
Speaker 7: only ever fix your mortgage for one year, never fix

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01:12:57,652 --> 01:13:00,333
Speaker 7: it longer, because he said, if you fix it at

1512
01:13:00,372 --> 01:13:02,772
Speaker 7: five percent for three years and it goes to two percent,

1513
01:13:02,812 --> 01:13:05,053
Speaker 7: you lose a lot of money. If you fix it

1514
01:13:05,053 --> 01:13:07,652
Speaker 7: at two percent for three years and it goes to

1515
01:13:07,692 --> 01:13:10,133
Speaker 7: eight percent, you've got to sell your house, he said.

1516
01:13:10,173 --> 01:13:12,173
Speaker 7: But after a year, if it goes up to four

1517
01:13:12,612 --> 01:13:14,133
Speaker 7: it's only a small amount of money. You go to

1518
01:13:14,173 --> 01:13:17,052
Speaker 7: fine and most people can find it. And we always

1519
01:13:17,093 --> 01:13:19,892
Speaker 7: said that and paid off on the tree because you're

1520
01:13:19,933 --> 01:13:22,852
Speaker 7: never sort of oh god, it's going to be seen.

1521
01:13:22,893 --> 01:13:24,372
Speaker 7: We come out with fixed at two and a half.

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01:13:24,412 --> 01:13:26,133
Speaker 7: That was always like, we're at five, I'm gonna get

1523
01:13:26,133 --> 01:13:30,652
Speaker 7: a six, not a problem. And I'd never ever buy

1524
01:13:30,692 --> 01:13:32,812
Speaker 7: anything unless I could pay cash for it. Never.

1525
01:13:33,013 --> 01:13:36,333
Speaker 2: Oh right, you're not a higher purchasser, higher purchaser.

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01:13:36,452 --> 01:13:36,692
Speaker 7: Never.

1527
01:13:36,973 --> 01:13:37,173
Speaker 2: Never.

1528
01:13:37,612 --> 01:13:38,812
Speaker 7: I don't think I've ever had one.

1529
01:13:39,492 --> 01:13:42,093
Speaker 2: Right, But let's about mortgage though.

1530
01:13:43,812 --> 01:13:46,932
Speaker 15: Pard.

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01:13:46,893 --> 01:13:50,652
Speaker 2: You've you've never ticked up a car.

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01:13:50,173 --> 01:13:54,293
Speaker 7: No cash, a driver out there, you go six years

1533
01:13:54,293 --> 01:13:56,732
Speaker 7: and on the cam driving over here for six years

1534
01:13:56,772 --> 01:13:57,452
Speaker 7: and pay cash for.

1535
01:13:58,893 --> 01:13:59,173
Speaker 9: Do you know?

1536
01:14:00,293 --> 01:14:04,372
Speaker 3: No, no, no, Reno's on the mortgage.

1537
01:14:05,452 --> 01:14:06,932
Speaker 15: No, but I never mortgage anymore.

1538
01:14:10,572 --> 01:14:12,612
Speaker 7: The other good bit of advice I suppose I shouldn't say,

1539
01:14:12,612 --> 01:14:19,532
Speaker 7: but Mary a Dutchman or a Sconsman, it pays a treat.

1540
01:14:21,293 --> 01:14:23,973
Speaker 2: Thank you, Greg, Thank you Greg for you there. I

1541
01:14:23,973 --> 01:14:26,812
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not one hundredercent sure on that one,

1542
01:14:26,853 --> 01:14:29,852
Speaker 2: because yeah, thanks for one year. Yeah, because you know,

1543
01:14:29,853 --> 01:14:32,652
Speaker 2: when interests were really really low and I just bought

1544
01:14:32,692 --> 01:14:35,492
Speaker 2: a new property and I was it's not going to

1545
01:14:35,532 --> 01:14:37,213
Speaker 2: get lower than this. But then I got my mortgage

1546
01:14:37,213 --> 01:14:39,732
Speaker 2: broker talked me out of putting it all at this

1547
01:14:39,893 --> 01:14:44,053
Speaker 2: low level, and that's coming out now out of it,

1548
01:14:44,093 --> 01:14:45,412
Speaker 2: and I was like, why didn't I just keep I

1549
01:14:45,452 --> 01:14:47,732
Speaker 2: should have done all of it. Yeah, I agree, But

1550
01:14:48,133 --> 01:14:50,732
Speaker 2: the same argument was given to me that you know,

1551
01:14:50,853 --> 01:14:52,612
Speaker 2: if it all comes out at the same time, then

1552
01:14:52,772 --> 01:14:54,572
Speaker 2: it's going to be problematic for you if it suddenly

1553
01:14:54,612 --> 01:14:57,412
Speaker 2: goes up from three percent to whatever it was to

1554
01:14:57,652 --> 01:14:59,732
Speaker 2: eight percent when it came out the other end. And

1555
01:14:59,772 --> 01:15:01,692
Speaker 2: it's actually worked out all right for me, but because

1556
01:15:01,893 --> 01:15:03,932
Speaker 2: you know how things have changed, and so I sort

1557
01:15:03,933 --> 01:15:06,173
Speaker 2: of withered that situation. But I was like, well, isn't

1558
01:15:06,213 --> 01:15:10,412
Speaker 2: that just the same thing. And I feel might feel

1559
01:15:10,412 --> 01:15:13,132
Speaker 2: worse that there's a bigger jump, but I've been paying

1560
01:15:13,173 --> 01:15:15,333
Speaker 2: that higher rate for longer, if you know what I'm saying.

1561
01:15:15,412 --> 01:15:17,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I agree, get to me because that was

1562
01:15:17,772 --> 01:15:20,173
Speaker 3: the advice when that was at two point three to five.

1563
01:15:20,213 --> 01:15:22,412
Speaker 3: I think, and and the broker's head fixed for five years,

1564
01:15:22,452 --> 01:15:23,973
Speaker 3: it's not going to get any lower than that. And

1565
01:15:24,013 --> 01:15:26,253
Speaker 3: I thought, well, I don't know, I think it will

1566
01:15:26,253 --> 01:15:29,452
Speaker 3: get lower, And of course it went the other way. So, Greg,

1567
01:15:29,452 --> 01:15:30,852
Speaker 3: I appreciate your phone call very much.

1568
01:15:31,732 --> 01:15:34,253
Speaker 2: And this Texas says it's chaos and Wellington nearly as

1569
01:15:34,293 --> 01:15:36,932
Speaker 2: bad as why any day you disgusting pigs are only

1570
01:15:36,933 --> 01:15:40,733
Speaker 2: focused in on Auckland. You're talking about property will Wellington

1571
01:15:41,053 --> 01:15:43,452
Speaker 2: is in a terrible state, disgusting. Thanks for you text,

1572
01:15:43,492 --> 01:15:44,652
Speaker 2: Fell appreciate that. Thank you.

1573
01:15:44,933 --> 01:15:47,253
Speaker 3: Stay positive, that's what we like. Oh one hundred and

1574
01:15:47,253 --> 01:15:49,133
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to cool. It is

1575
01:15:49,452 --> 01:15:50,853
Speaker 3: nine to three.

1576
01:15:51,213 --> 01:15:53,652
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1577
01:15:53,692 --> 01:15:54,333
Speaker 4: along the way.

1578
01:15:54,572 --> 01:15:58,532
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons News TALKSB.

1579
01:15:59,173 --> 01:16:02,052
Speaker 2: News TALKSB six to three. There'll be updates from Wellington

1580
01:16:02,173 --> 01:16:05,293
Speaker 2: and the news are coming up very very soon. Phil,

1581
01:16:05,333 --> 01:16:09,012
Speaker 2: So you can stop sending and you are very angry. Angry, yeah,

1582
01:16:09,093 --> 01:16:12,092
Speaker 2: angry text. We don't control the weather, mate, Yeah, firing

1583
01:16:12,772 --> 01:16:16,452
Speaker 2: suddenly through the text machine on nine two nine two.

1584
01:16:16,492 --> 01:16:17,852
Speaker 2: But if you're in Wellington, you want to give us

1585
01:16:17,853 --> 01:16:19,973
Speaker 2: an update on what's going on down there. Oh eight

1586
01:16:20,093 --> 01:16:23,013
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty, Not Phil, Yeah, don't you

1587
01:16:23,053 --> 01:16:25,492
Speaker 2: bother ringing Phil, but anyone else from Wellington that wants

1588
01:16:25,492 --> 01:16:26,692
Speaker 2: to give usn update we'd love to hear from you

1589
01:16:27,293 --> 01:16:31,333
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty, But we are talking about great advice

1590
01:16:31,412 --> 01:16:35,093
Speaker 2: that you could give your kids when it comes to finances.

1591
01:16:36,293 --> 01:16:39,013
Speaker 2: And look, this is on the back of an announcement

1592
01:16:39,053 --> 01:16:42,693
Speaker 2: that kids students in years one to ten from twenty

1593
01:16:42,893 --> 01:16:47,372
Speaker 2: twenty seven will be receiving financial education in this country. Dylan,

1594
01:16:47,492 --> 01:16:48,293
Speaker 2: welcome to the show.

1595
01:16:49,692 --> 01:16:51,732
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just wanted to mention.

1596
01:16:53,293 --> 01:16:56,452
Speaker 25: I'm listen to Dave Ramsey and yeah, pretty good financial

1597
01:16:56,492 --> 01:16:59,652
Speaker 25: advice there. But just wanted to ask has there been

1598
01:16:59,692 --> 01:17:02,133
Speaker 25: any so I've only just turned in, has there been

1599
01:17:02,173 --> 01:17:06,293
Speaker 25: any actually decent the disagreements as to why this is

1600
01:17:06,333 --> 01:17:08,572
Speaker 25: a bad thing, because I'm struggling to think of one

1601
01:17:08,612 --> 01:17:09,732
Speaker 25: reason why it's a bad.

1602
01:17:09,572 --> 01:17:14,293
Speaker 2: Thing to teach in school. Yeah, yeah, Well here there's

1603
01:17:14,772 --> 01:17:17,492
Speaker 2: opinion was that that wasn't what school was for and

1604
01:17:17,532 --> 01:17:21,133
Speaker 2: that you should teach it at home. But and and

1605
01:17:21,213 --> 01:17:23,932
Speaker 2: some people have been saying that teachers won't give great

1606
01:17:23,973 --> 01:17:27,572
Speaker 2: advice and that no one and kids don't listen to

1607
01:17:27,572 --> 01:17:31,812
Speaker 2: teachers anyway. There's a few of those things floating around.

1608
01:17:31,973 --> 01:17:36,213
Speaker 2: But I think, you know you, it's from my perspective,

1609
01:17:36,732 --> 01:17:38,452
Speaker 2: I think it's a great thing that they'll be teaching

1610
01:17:38,933 --> 01:17:41,093
Speaker 2: financial education one to ten. But I think as a

1611
01:17:41,173 --> 01:17:43,652
Speaker 2: parent as well that you should should take it on

1612
01:17:43,692 --> 01:17:46,333
Speaker 2: to you. I mean, same as sex education. You can't

1613
01:17:46,372 --> 01:17:47,372
Speaker 2: leave it all up to the school.

1614
01:17:48,732 --> 01:17:52,693
Speaker 25: Well absolutely, but at least you're still instilling the groundwork

1615
01:17:53,013 --> 01:17:55,253
Speaker 25: and you know, so then they can do their own research.

1616
01:17:55,452 --> 01:17:57,812
Speaker 25: But the thing is, you know we have Kiwi said

1617
01:17:57,973 --> 01:18:01,333
Speaker 25: because of the global financial crisis, because Kiwi's well, I

1618
01:18:01,372 --> 01:18:04,852
Speaker 25: won't say all, but there's a great percentage of keewis

1619
01:18:04,853 --> 01:18:07,293
Speaker 25: they just don't know how to say to save Yeah,

1620
01:18:07,333 --> 01:18:09,412
Speaker 25: and so ke we said, well was a great idea.

1621
01:18:09,652 --> 01:18:13,253
Speaker 28: Yeah, absolutely, But what you guys were talking about earlier

1622
01:18:13,333 --> 01:18:17,013
Speaker 28: on is how you're eighteen to say, twenty twenty two

1623
01:18:17,093 --> 01:18:19,852
Speaker 28: year olds get a job and they're thinking they're going

1624
01:18:19,893 --> 01:18:21,932
Speaker 28: to live forever, just like I did, and then they

1625
01:18:21,933 --> 01:18:24,053
Speaker 28: go out and buy a fifty thousand dollars car. Then

1626
01:18:24,053 --> 01:18:28,173
Speaker 28: they lose thirty grand on it spot onaens.

1627
01:18:28,293 --> 01:18:29,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, great discussion.

1628
01:18:30,013 --> 01:18:33,052
Speaker 3: Thank you very much to everyone who phoned and tips

1629
01:18:33,093 --> 01:18:36,053
Speaker 3: through on that one. Right, coming up very shortly, we

1630
01:18:36,133 --> 01:18:37,493
Speaker 3: want to have a chat about earworms.

1631
01:18:37,612 --> 01:18:40,133
Speaker 2: That's right, So I just say, compound interest is the

1632
01:18:40,133 --> 01:18:40,892
Speaker 2: eighth wonder of the world.

1633
01:18:40,893 --> 01:18:40,973
Speaker 26: Here.

1634
01:18:41,013 --> 01:18:43,852
Speaker 2: You understands it earns it. He who doesn't pays it beautiful.

1635
01:18:47,532 --> 01:18:50,852
Speaker 1: Your new home are Instateful and it's a teening talk.

1636
01:18:51,093 --> 01:18:55,532
Speaker 1: It's Matty and Taylor Adams Afternoons on News Talk sep

1637
01:18:56,372 --> 01:18:57,132
Speaker 1: God Afternoon.

1638
01:18:57,133 --> 01:18:59,492
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show, seven past three. This hour

1639
01:19:00,772 --> 01:19:04,372
Speaker 3: is going to be fun, potentially punishment earworms.

1640
01:19:04,452 --> 01:19:06,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be, and producer Andrew in the other

1641
01:19:06,293 --> 01:19:08,812
Speaker 2: room said, this could be the most annoying I've radio that.

1642
01:19:08,812 --> 01:19:11,173
Speaker 2: It's anyone done. So we'd love to hear feedback on

1643
01:19:11,173 --> 01:19:14,253
Speaker 2: that on nine. But it was something we want to

1644
01:19:14,293 --> 01:19:17,973
Speaker 2: talk about yesterday, but we've got too many calls and

1645
01:19:18,013 --> 01:19:22,533
Speaker 2: texts and other subjects to get to it. It's ear worms.

1646
01:19:23,093 --> 01:19:25,013
Speaker 2: And you might think that an earworm, which is a

1647
01:19:25,013 --> 01:19:26,772
Speaker 2: song that plays over and over in your head after

1648
01:19:26,812 --> 01:19:29,973
Speaker 2: you hear it, is just as a minor inconvenience in

1649
01:19:30,013 --> 01:19:32,372
Speaker 2: your life. For it, it's not even that it's just

1650
01:19:32,412 --> 01:19:35,773
Speaker 2: a thing that happens. It actually has some serious implications

1651
01:19:35,772 --> 01:19:37,532
Speaker 2: in terms of being able to get other things done

1652
01:19:37,532 --> 01:19:40,652
Speaker 2: in your life because having a song playing in your

1653
01:19:40,772 --> 01:19:43,213
Speaker 2: head while you're trying to do other stuff, it uses

1654
01:19:43,293 --> 01:19:45,652
Speaker 2: up your working memory, which is the number of slots

1655
01:19:45,692 --> 01:19:48,093
Speaker 2: that you have to get things done. It's like ram

1656
01:19:48,093 --> 01:19:50,892
Speaker 2: and a computer as opposed to the hard drive of

1657
01:19:50,893 --> 01:19:53,532
Speaker 2: your computer. There's only so many things that we can

1658
01:19:53,572 --> 01:19:55,492
Speaker 2: hold in our minds at the one time. If one

1659
01:19:55,532 --> 01:19:58,572
Speaker 2: of those slots has been filmed up by a punishing earworm,

1660
01:19:59,372 --> 01:20:01,932
Speaker 2: then you've got less room to do the other things

1661
01:20:01,933 --> 01:20:06,013
Speaker 2: you want to do. So this fantastic article that I

1662
01:20:06,053 --> 01:20:08,213
Speaker 2: have in front of me here, if I was more

1663
01:20:08,412 --> 01:20:10,852
Speaker 2: organized and didn't have so many ear whims in my head.

1664
01:20:12,013 --> 01:20:13,492
Speaker 2: It was from the Washington Post, wasn't it.

1665
01:20:13,612 --> 01:20:15,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, the science of ear wims though, how to get

1666
01:20:15,612 --> 01:20:16,412
Speaker 3: it out of your head?

1667
01:20:16,452 --> 01:20:18,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the thing. So how do you get

1668
01:20:18,133 --> 01:20:19,812
Speaker 2: these out of your head? We'll tell you that after

1669
01:20:19,812 --> 01:20:21,532
Speaker 2: we've put a bunch of them in your head, So

1670
01:20:21,572 --> 01:20:23,333
Speaker 2: we're not going to do that at the start. At

1671
01:20:23,333 --> 01:20:25,772
Speaker 2: the end will tell you how to cleanse yourself from

1672
01:20:25,772 --> 01:20:26,772
Speaker 2: the from those ear whims.

1673
01:20:26,812 --> 01:20:28,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're going to punish you and then cure

1674
01:20:28,732 --> 01:20:31,493
Speaker 3: you right at the So don't worry. We got your sorted.

1675
01:20:31,293 --> 01:20:33,253
Speaker 2: And and this will be handy for the rest of

1676
01:20:33,253 --> 01:20:36,093
Speaker 2: your life, because when you've got that difficult task you're

1677
01:20:36,093 --> 01:20:39,253
Speaker 2: doing and you're not succeeding because you've got MoMA mea

1678
01:20:39,333 --> 01:20:42,692
Speaker 2: boy queen playing over and over on repeat in your head.

1679
01:20:42,893 --> 01:20:44,652
Speaker 2: Then once we tell you how to fix that, then

1680
01:20:44,732 --> 01:20:47,972
Speaker 2: then you'll thank us forever. Yeah, forever and ever you're thinking,

1681
01:20:48,053 --> 01:20:50,293
Speaker 2: We'll be thinking god Man, Heath and Tyler whatever your

1682
01:20:50,333 --> 01:20:51,133
Speaker 2: last name is.

1683
01:20:51,133 --> 01:20:53,732
Speaker 3: A great guys, you got an ear wom in your

1684
01:20:53,732 --> 01:20:54,253
Speaker 3: head at the moment.

1685
01:20:54,293 --> 01:20:58,652
Speaker 2: There, I've got you. I've got can't get you out

1686
01:20:58,652 --> 01:21:03,772
Speaker 2: of mar head. Boy, there's something I don't even know

1687
01:21:03,853 --> 01:21:06,053
Speaker 2: the words, but just because of they can't get you

1688
01:21:06,093 --> 01:21:09,092
Speaker 2: out of a head. And I think that Kylie Minogue

1689
01:21:09,133 --> 01:21:11,972
Speaker 2: song with the line can't get you out of my head?

1690
01:21:12,412 --> 01:21:15,293
Speaker 2: I think there was nefarious activity to get it into

1691
01:21:15,293 --> 01:21:19,333
Speaker 2: your head by adding the by adding those words into it.

1692
01:21:19,372 --> 01:21:20,733
Speaker 2: So what are your earworms?

1693
01:21:21,093 --> 01:21:21,213
Speaker 18: Oh?

1694
01:21:21,253 --> 01:21:24,812
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and highly likely if

1695
01:21:24,812 --> 01:21:26,532
Speaker 3: it's an earwim, we've got it in the system, so

1696
01:21:26,572 --> 01:21:28,133
Speaker 3: we might play a little bit of it.

1697
01:21:28,412 --> 01:21:30,892
Speaker 2: But keen to hear what are your worst air worms?

1698
01:21:30,973 --> 01:21:32,732
Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going to start off the I'm

1699
01:21:32,772 --> 01:21:35,772
Speaker 2: going to start off the bidding with Mambo number five

1700
01:21:35,893 --> 01:21:38,852
Speaker 2: by Lou Biger. I think that is one of the

1701
01:21:38,853 --> 01:21:40,852
Speaker 2: most punishing air worms of all time. It is a

1702
01:21:40,853 --> 01:21:44,772
Speaker 2: song that I believe has no value at all, and

1703
01:21:45,053 --> 01:21:50,812
Speaker 2: success is entirely based around it. At the repetition of

1704
01:21:50,853 --> 01:21:53,013
Speaker 2: it and getting into your head A little bit of

1705
01:21:53,093 --> 01:22:03,213
Speaker 2: money life, a little blasa, Absolutely disgusting.

1706
01:22:06,732 --> 01:22:09,372
Speaker 3: It's almost one of the songs that is being designed

1707
01:22:09,572 --> 01:22:11,772
Speaker 3: just to be an ear worm and punish you. The

1708
01:22:11,772 --> 01:22:14,412
Speaker 3: fact that he starts off the song Mumbo number five,

1709
01:22:15,652 --> 01:22:16,532
Speaker 3: that's a terrible one.

1710
01:22:16,692 --> 01:22:18,892
Speaker 2: The sexus is I see your Mumbo number five and

1711
01:22:18,973 --> 01:22:21,213
Speaker 2: raise you, baby shark. I've forgot about that, man.

1712
01:22:21,612 --> 01:22:25,052
Speaker 3: I thought I was done with that one. One hundred

1713
01:22:25,053 --> 01:22:27,372
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call love

1714
01:22:27,412 --> 01:22:30,093
Speaker 3: to hear what your worst ear wormbs are? All your

1715
01:22:30,133 --> 01:22:30,892
Speaker 3: best ear worms?

1716
01:22:30,893 --> 01:22:33,293
Speaker 2: Oh god? Yeah, I'll tell you what you want, what

1717
01:22:33,452 --> 01:22:39,132
Speaker 2: you really really want? To tell you what? Good afternoon.

1718
01:22:39,133 --> 01:22:41,812
Speaker 3: We're talking about earworms on the back of new science

1719
01:22:41,853 --> 01:22:44,173
Speaker 3: which has revealed how to get rid of them.

1720
01:22:44,293 --> 01:22:46,452
Speaker 2: We will tell you what that science is and how

1721
01:22:46,452 --> 01:22:47,973
Speaker 2: to do that, and the end of the elm. And

1722
01:22:48,013 --> 01:22:49,932
Speaker 2: also in that science that's saying how bad they are

1723
01:22:49,973 --> 01:22:53,372
Speaker 2: for productivity. So we're actually doing a you know, everyone's

1724
01:22:53,372 --> 01:22:55,253
Speaker 2: supposed to be swinging the same direction in this country

1725
01:22:55,253 --> 01:22:57,933
Speaker 2: to increase productivity. We've got one of the lowest productivity

1726
01:22:57,973 --> 01:23:00,692
Speaker 2: rates in the OECD, and here we are blasting out

1727
01:23:00,692 --> 01:23:03,293
Speaker 2: earworms and a lowering people's productivity. So, you know, a

1728
01:23:03,372 --> 01:23:09,692
Speaker 2: pox on our houses been earwormsy very good? What do

1729
01:23:09,772 --> 01:23:10,333
Speaker 2: you got for us?

1730
01:23:11,293 --> 01:23:17,652
Speaker 11: Oh? I love that song by Lady Gaga. It's all right,

1731
01:23:19,853 --> 01:23:21,972
Speaker 11: yeah I hear.

1732
01:23:23,612 --> 01:23:25,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's it's a

1733
01:23:25,973 --> 01:23:27,093
Speaker 2: double entaundre, isn't it?

1734
01:23:32,612 --> 01:23:33,053
Speaker 4: Can we.

1735
01:23:38,293 --> 01:23:38,652
Speaker 25: Oh?

1736
01:23:38,772 --> 01:23:39,012
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1737
01:23:39,053 --> 01:23:39,492
Speaker 2: There we go?

1738
01:23:39,652 --> 01:23:39,852
Speaker 5: Ben?

1739
01:23:40,933 --> 01:23:43,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is that is a bad one.

1740
01:23:43,293 --> 01:23:44,692
Speaker 2: Well what about this one? A lot of people are

1741
01:23:44,732 --> 01:23:47,133
Speaker 2: teaching this one through? Okay, here we go, you're ready?

1742
01:23:47,452 --> 01:23:51,892
Speaker 2: H are you ready?

1743
01:23:52,093 --> 01:23:53,093
Speaker 3: Just getting that fader up?

1744
01:23:53,093 --> 01:23:53,452
Speaker 11: And Drew?

1745
01:23:54,532 --> 01:23:55,093
Speaker 2: Are you ready?

1746
01:23:55,213 --> 01:23:55,612
Speaker 1: We go?

1747
01:24:11,572 --> 01:24:14,772
Speaker 2: That's that's criminal, that one, isn't it? Yeah? A peanut

1748
01:24:14,772 --> 01:24:17,892
Speaker 2: button from Sanitarium. I was saying before that the one

1749
01:24:17,933 --> 01:24:21,133
Speaker 2: that really gets me as the Kylie Minogue song. This

1750
01:24:21,253 --> 01:24:34,293
Speaker 2: one here, Yeah, I mean that is a messive ear worm,

1751
01:24:34,372 --> 01:24:35,532
Speaker 2: but I was kind of liking that. It's got a

1752
01:24:35,572 --> 01:24:37,372
Speaker 2: good beat. I like that one, do you ye? It's

1753
01:24:37,412 --> 01:24:40,572
Speaker 2: got essentially just two chords? Can you can you? One

1754
01:24:40,652 --> 01:24:43,412
Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen eighty. If you've got a more punishing

1755
01:24:43,452 --> 01:24:44,572
Speaker 2: ear worm than that one.

1756
01:24:45,173 --> 01:24:47,013
Speaker 3: A one that comes to mind, and I haven't heard

1757
01:24:47,053 --> 01:24:50,972
Speaker 3: it for some time, but a massive ear womb for me.

1758
01:24:53,612 --> 01:25:01,572
Speaker 29: God, come from, come from huge the up back in Hamilton,

1759
01:25:01,692 --> 01:25:06,212
Speaker 29: Oh Good, Memories, memories, Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty,

1760
01:25:06,372 --> 01:25:08,173
Speaker 29: what is you'll be?

1761
01:25:08,532 --> 01:25:09,093
Speaker 2: Earworm?

1762
01:25:09,452 --> 01:25:11,133
Speaker 3: I'd love to hear from you on our eight hundred

1763
01:25:11,133 --> 01:25:12,972
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. There's some great teachs coming through

1764
01:25:12,973 --> 01:25:15,172
Speaker 3: as well. We'll get to a few of those shortly.

1765
01:25:15,333 --> 01:25:24,013
Speaker 3: It is sixteen past three.

1766
01:25:21,612 --> 01:25:25,013
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call OH eight hundred and

1767
01:25:25,053 --> 01:25:27,213
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on youth Talk ZB.

1768
01:25:27,293 --> 01:25:30,132
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, eighteen passed three, and we're talking about earworms.

1769
01:25:30,213 --> 01:25:32,412
Speaker 3: New science has been revealed on the best way to

1770
01:25:32,452 --> 01:25:34,532
Speaker 3: get earworms out of your head. But we want to

1771
01:25:34,532 --> 01:25:38,173
Speaker 3: hear from you on what your greatest earworms are, and

1772
01:25:38,492 --> 01:25:40,532
Speaker 3: if you're lucky, we'll even play a few bars with it.

1773
01:25:40,652 --> 01:25:43,133
Speaker 2: What do you mean greatest? I think we're after the

1774
01:25:43,133 --> 01:25:47,213
Speaker 2: most powerful, most efficient, most successful. Well, no, it's because

1775
01:25:47,213 --> 01:25:50,412
Speaker 2: you're they're not because you can have a really, really

1776
01:25:51,013 --> 01:25:54,492
Speaker 2: successful airwim that's absolutely horrible and not good. But you

1777
01:25:54,532 --> 01:25:57,613
Speaker 2: can have a song that's very catchy and it's also fantastic,

1778
01:25:57,652 --> 01:25:59,812
Speaker 2: if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's.

1779
01:25:59,692 --> 01:26:01,012
Speaker 3: Good ear worms and bad earworms.

1780
01:26:01,053 --> 01:26:04,012
Speaker 2: As we're saying, because a lot of people are texting

1781
01:26:04,013 --> 01:26:06,652
Speaker 2: through today tomorrow tim Uru from Deja Voodu. Yeah, we've

1782
01:26:06,652 --> 01:26:08,852
Speaker 2: had about five texts for that, and that is a

1783
01:26:08,893 --> 01:26:13,213
Speaker 2: song that is both very very catchy and a very

1784
01:26:13,213 --> 01:26:17,652
Speaker 2: informative and also a very very very good song. You'll

1785
01:26:17,692 --> 01:26:19,253
Speaker 2: learn something from it. It's what you're saying, you know,

1786
01:26:19,333 --> 01:26:21,892
Speaker 2: that's a little bit of yeah, well it's you know,

1787
01:26:21,893 --> 01:26:24,213
Speaker 2: it's got a few tells you a few things on

1788
01:26:24,253 --> 01:26:26,492
Speaker 2: the map between Dunedin and Christchurch.

1789
01:26:27,013 --> 01:26:28,692
Speaker 3: So the fact that it's taking up some of your

1790
01:26:28,772 --> 01:26:31,012
Speaker 3: ram of your brain, it's actually, yes, for a good

1791
01:26:31,013 --> 01:26:32,253
Speaker 3: reason that it's taken up that ram.

1792
01:26:32,372 --> 01:26:32,532
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1793
01:26:32,532 --> 01:26:34,972
Speaker 2: Absolutely. And this and while we're talking about that same band,

1794
01:26:34,973 --> 01:26:36,692
Speaker 2: Deja Vuota, there's a lot of people that texting through

1795
01:26:36,812 --> 01:26:41,452
Speaker 2: the song Beers also very catchy Beers from Deja Vita

1796
01:26:41,492 --> 01:26:43,372
Speaker 2: has been stuck in my head for nearly twenty five years.

1797
01:26:43,412 --> 01:26:46,692
Speaker 2: I'm Willie. It's got a bit of depth to that song.

1798
01:26:46,732 --> 01:26:47,173
Speaker 3: That wasn't it?

1799
01:26:47,213 --> 01:26:50,212
Speaker 2: I mean, can you just give us some of the lyrics?

1800
01:26:50,412 --> 01:26:54,812
Speaker 13: I would give you one of my beers, but I've

1801
01:26:54,853 --> 01:26:59,492
Speaker 13: only got six. I would, but I don't like to share,

1802
01:27:00,293 --> 01:27:03,173
Speaker 13: and I've only got six. Absolute key, we classes very

1803
01:27:03,293 --> 01:27:03,892
Speaker 13: very defense.

1804
01:27:04,213 --> 01:27:05,412
Speaker 2: Wonder if that bend's still going.

1805
01:27:06,933 --> 01:27:06,973
Speaker 25: On?

1806
01:27:07,532 --> 01:27:11,052
Speaker 2: Eight is the number to call, James, Welcome to the show.

1807
01:27:11,812 --> 01:27:18,173
Speaker 9: Hello. The best ear where I ever had, I had

1808
01:27:18,732 --> 01:27:23,212
Speaker 9: for quite some time was my Immortal by even essence.

1809
01:27:23,732 --> 01:27:26,612
Speaker 3: Ah, I think I know the one I don't know

1810
01:27:26,692 --> 01:27:28,973
Speaker 3: by an name, but that was obviously the biggest hit

1811
01:27:29,053 --> 01:27:31,173
Speaker 3: that came out. Oh cheap as that would have been.

1812
01:27:31,412 --> 01:27:34,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like that's it.

1813
01:27:35,492 --> 01:27:39,413
Speaker 9: And the worst eard.

1814
01:27:39,973 --> 01:27:41,172
Speaker 2: What's that? James?

1815
01:27:41,732 --> 01:27:45,333
Speaker 9: The worst year worm I ever had was for some reason,

1816
01:27:45,452 --> 01:27:49,652
Speaker 9: for quite a while back, a few years ago, I

1817
01:27:49,652 --> 01:27:53,093
Speaker 9: couldn't get the theme from the SpongeBob Strange SquarePants out

1818
01:27:53,093 --> 01:27:53,372
Speaker 9: of my.

1819
01:27:53,372 --> 01:27:59,293
Speaker 2: Head Sunge SpongeBob SquarePants, SpongeBob.

1820
01:28:03,173 --> 01:28:05,053
Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna have to keep listening, James, because we'll

1821
01:28:05,053 --> 01:28:08,053
Speaker 3: give you a technique that you can get SpongeBob SquarePants

1822
01:28:08,053 --> 01:28:10,492
Speaker 3: out of your head if you want to great show,

1823
01:28:10,572 --> 01:28:12,852
Speaker 3: that isn't It's great card it's a fantastic show.

1824
01:28:14,293 --> 01:28:36,652
Speaker 18: Right, I preferred anyways, I can hear you so good.

1825
01:28:30,973 --> 01:28:31,572
Speaker 2: So good.

1826
01:28:32,412 --> 01:28:33,973
Speaker 3: Oh, we're going to play that during the airbreak. I

1827
01:28:33,973 --> 01:28:34,852
Speaker 3: need to hear the whole thing.

1828
01:28:36,253 --> 01:28:38,692
Speaker 2: This person's so right in the jungle, the Mighty Lion

1829
01:28:38,933 --> 01:28:42,412
Speaker 2: Sleeps Tonight when that song gets into your head, I'm

1830
01:28:42,412 --> 01:28:44,093
Speaker 2: not sure who the artist is. I think there are

1831
01:28:44,133 --> 01:28:46,933
Speaker 2: one one wonder in.

1832
01:28:46,692 --> 01:28:50,852
Speaker 13: The jungle, the Mighty Jungle, The Lion.

1833
01:28:50,612 --> 01:28:54,213
Speaker 2: Sleeps, do not once that gissing. I think I've probably

1834
01:28:54,213 --> 01:28:57,492
Speaker 2: spent hours and hours of my life with that song

1835
01:28:58,333 --> 01:29:01,852
Speaker 2: over and over in my head. What was the band, Andrew?

1836
01:29:01,893 --> 01:29:04,053
Speaker 2: Can you remember who sings the Lions Sleeps Tonight? Was

1837
01:29:04,053 --> 01:29:04,732
Speaker 2: it the Tokens?

1838
01:29:06,053 --> 01:29:08,333
Speaker 3: I think it was the Tokens? One hundred and eighty.

1839
01:29:09,173 --> 01:29:09,572
Speaker 3: Here it is?

1840
01:29:09,612 --> 01:29:11,772
Speaker 2: This is no, that's not it for reasons, Okay, here.

1841
01:29:11,692 --> 01:29:11,892
Speaker 19: We go.

1842
01:29:13,853 --> 01:29:15,852
Speaker 3: On hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number two?

1843
01:29:15,973 --> 01:29:17,253
Speaker 2: Call Matts?

1844
01:29:17,333 --> 01:29:18,133
Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

1845
01:29:20,532 --> 01:29:20,772
Speaker 6: Really?

1846
01:29:20,812 --> 01:29:23,412
Speaker 17: Punishing one crazy from.

1847
01:29:23,013 --> 01:29:29,213
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so that's excellent, which was a fantastic tune

1848
01:29:29,372 --> 01:29:33,772
Speaker 2: from Beverly Hills cop But then crazy everyone involved in

1849
01:29:33,812 --> 01:29:35,253
Speaker 2: Crazy Frog should be tasted.

1850
01:29:36,333 --> 01:29:39,253
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think, but it was that you just can't

1851
01:29:39,253 --> 01:29:39,652
Speaker 20: get rid of.

1852
01:29:40,013 --> 01:29:43,852
Speaker 2: And the interesting thing was with the being. But the

1853
01:29:43,893 --> 01:29:47,693
Speaker 2: interesting thing was it was like it was designed specifically

1854
01:29:47,732 --> 01:29:51,093
Speaker 2: to be annoying, and the controversy around it was that

1855
01:29:51,133 --> 01:29:53,933
Speaker 2: it was rubbish and annoying, but also that it was

1856
01:29:53,973 --> 01:29:55,692
Speaker 2: going to be successful. Yeah.

1857
01:29:56,053 --> 01:29:58,572
Speaker 3: So I've just had a lot. I've just had a look.

1858
01:29:58,612 --> 01:30:01,372
Speaker 3: How many views are on crazy Frog on YouTube? Do

1859
01:30:01,412 --> 01:30:02,572
Speaker 3: you guys want to take a guess?

1860
01:30:03,612 --> 01:30:06,812
Speaker 2: I'm going to say over a billion, way over a billion,

1861
01:30:07,133 --> 01:30:12,333
Speaker 2: way over a billion. Keep you five billion, Matt on

1862
01:30:12,333 --> 01:30:12,612
Speaker 2: the phone?

1863
01:30:12,652 --> 01:30:13,053
Speaker 3: What are you reagon?

1864
01:30:14,333 --> 01:30:16,933
Speaker 24: Surely not, but probably people are pretty.

1865
01:30:16,652 --> 01:30:19,972
Speaker 3: Silly these five point one billion views five point one

1866
01:30:20,093 --> 01:30:21,612
Speaker 3: billion on crazy Frog.

1867
01:30:21,692 --> 01:30:23,973
Speaker 2: So people have actively gone out of their way to

1868
01:30:23,973 --> 01:30:27,133
Speaker 2: be punished by a crazy frog. Yeah. If there's five

1869
01:30:27,133 --> 01:30:29,852
Speaker 2: point one billion, I mean, listen, listen to this, listen

1870
01:30:29,893 --> 01:30:32,213
Speaker 2: to it. It's it's an absolute crime.

1871
01:30:34,772 --> 01:30:40,333
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good part. All right, Very good enough

1872
01:30:40,372 --> 01:30:42,253
Speaker 3: of that one, Matt, Thank you very much. I think

1873
01:30:42,293 --> 01:30:43,932
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you're the right word.

1874
01:30:43,772 --> 01:30:48,772
Speaker 17: Here, I guess so we see, we'll hear about it tomorrow.

1875
01:30:49,253 --> 01:30:52,133
Speaker 3: Absolutely, go well mate, thank you very much. O. One

1876
01:30:52,213 --> 01:30:57,452
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call Millie.

1877
01:30:57,893 --> 01:30:58,812
Speaker 4: How are you hello there?

1878
01:31:01,053 --> 01:31:04,612
Speaker 9: One of the worm earworms that gets into my head

1879
01:31:04,692 --> 01:31:08,452
Speaker 9: sometimes even today is what's the matter at you?

1880
01:31:09,173 --> 01:31:11,892
Speaker 2: What's the matter you? Ah? Is that that I shut

1881
01:31:11,933 --> 01:31:12,692
Speaker 2: up your Face song?

1882
01:31:17,173 --> 01:31:17,892
Speaker 15: What do you think?

1883
01:31:20,893 --> 01:31:24,372
Speaker 2: I have never heard that song before? I know, here

1884
01:31:24,412 --> 01:31:29,532
Speaker 2: we go, shut up for your face? God, I haven't

1885
01:31:29,572 --> 01:31:30,652
Speaker 2: heard that for so long.

1886
01:31:30,732 --> 01:31:35,413
Speaker 8: Rely, let's go, I know, but it still gets there sometimes.

1887
01:31:35,812 --> 01:31:36,052
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1888
01:31:36,133 --> 01:31:38,732
Speaker 2: So I'm remembering that a video, was it? It come

1889
01:31:38,772 --> 01:31:40,692
Speaker 2: out of Australia. There was a guy with a mustache

1890
01:31:40,772 --> 01:31:44,372
Speaker 2: walking around some kind of uh market telling people to

1891
01:31:44,372 --> 01:31:45,253
Speaker 2: shut up their face.

1892
01:31:46,372 --> 01:31:49,652
Speaker 19: That's right, that's so good that.

1893
01:31:51,492 --> 01:31:51,932
Speaker 2: What is it?

1894
01:31:51,973 --> 01:31:54,733
Speaker 14: So courage?

1895
01:31:54,973 --> 01:31:57,093
Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, thank you for that. A lot of

1896
01:31:57,093 --> 01:31:59,133
Speaker 2: people be thanking you for putting that into the kid.

1897
01:31:59,372 --> 01:32:00,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much.

1898
01:32:01,133 --> 01:32:02,972
Speaker 2: Thank you for your cal Guys.

1899
01:32:03,053 --> 01:32:06,253
Speaker 3: The worst earworm ever is this is a great song

1900
01:32:06,412 --> 01:32:08,932
Speaker 3: What does the Fox Say? And the frightening thing about

1901
01:32:08,973 --> 01:32:10,972
Speaker 3: that is the sounds I've got on my head aren't

1902
01:32:10,973 --> 01:32:12,652
Speaker 3: even the proper sounds from the song of the chorus.

1903
01:32:12,652 --> 01:32:13,732
Speaker 3: Have you heard that? What the Fox Say?

1904
01:32:13,812 --> 01:32:13,932
Speaker 17: Oh?

1905
01:32:14,013 --> 01:32:15,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the Fox say?

1906
01:32:17,853 --> 01:32:18,053
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1907
01:32:18,173 --> 01:32:23,052
Speaker 2: Yeah? Song very funny, yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely punishing.

1908
01:32:23,732 --> 01:32:26,012
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1909
01:32:26,093 --> 01:32:29,053
Speaker 3: What is the ear worm that you've got stuck in

1910
01:32:29,093 --> 01:32:32,093
Speaker 3: your head currently? And we should remind you that we've

1911
01:32:32,133 --> 01:32:34,213
Speaker 3: got new science out that will tell you how to

1912
01:32:34,213 --> 01:32:35,852
Speaker 3: get rid of it, so we'll be able to cleanse

1913
01:32:35,893 --> 01:32:36,253
Speaker 3: your brain.

1914
01:32:36,372 --> 01:32:38,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So whatever we put in your head,

1915
01:32:39,213 --> 01:32:40,973
Speaker 2: we will be able to help you get rid of it,

1916
01:32:41,013 --> 01:32:46,052
Speaker 2: because apparently it was really bad for your productivity. Yep, Paul, Oh,

1917
01:32:46,053 --> 01:32:48,013
Speaker 2: of course this one, Paul. I know exactly what you're

1918
01:32:48,013 --> 01:32:48,612
Speaker 2: going to say here.

1919
01:32:49,652 --> 01:32:52,812
Speaker 25: Yes, bloody thing has been haunting me.

1920
01:32:52,853 --> 01:32:54,013
Speaker 6: For years.

1921
01:32:55,333 --> 01:33:01,093
Speaker 2: And I world walk five, come do it?

1922
01:33:01,772 --> 01:33:02,492
Speaker 6: Do it again?

1923
01:33:04,253 --> 01:33:07,772
Speaker 2: I mean that is Yeah, I wonder what there's there's

1924
01:33:07,772 --> 01:33:10,053
Speaker 2: a reasona why there. It's repetitive, but it's just that

1925
01:33:10,133 --> 01:33:14,293
Speaker 2: marching rhythm and I would what five hundred miles and

1926
01:33:14,853 --> 01:33:16,213
Speaker 2: word but it's got the other but.

1927
01:33:19,372 --> 01:33:20,612
Speaker 6: That for an accent.

1928
01:33:21,293 --> 01:33:25,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I wonder what the Proclaimers, the two

1929
01:33:25,253 --> 01:33:27,972
Speaker 2: brothers and they played in New Zealand not so long ago.

1930
01:33:28,053 --> 01:33:29,892
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's stuck in their head. I wonder

1931
01:33:29,933 --> 01:33:31,852
Speaker 2: how they feel when they come around to perform that song.

1932
01:33:31,973 --> 01:33:33,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to figure out a way to cleanse

1933
01:33:33,692 --> 01:33:34,972
Speaker 3: their own song from their own brain.

1934
01:33:35,013 --> 01:33:39,253
Speaker 14: I think I don't think they have any in between.

1935
01:33:39,293 --> 01:33:42,572
Speaker 2: There he is performing that song enough times it will

1936
01:33:42,652 --> 01:33:45,732
Speaker 2: raise your brain wrong here, Paul, But are you are

1937
01:33:45,772 --> 01:33:46,772
Speaker 2: you Scottish yourself?

1938
01:33:46,772 --> 01:33:47,732
Speaker 3: For your you're from the UK.

1939
01:33:49,333 --> 01:33:52,613
Speaker 20: I'm from the UK, but not Scottish.

1940
01:33:52,812 --> 01:33:55,492
Speaker 3: Yeah no, that's a great one. Thank you very much, Paul.

1941
01:33:55,532 --> 01:33:55,973
Speaker 3: Have we got that?

1942
01:33:56,133 --> 01:34:04,532
Speaker 2: There we go? So that song is actually called I'm

1943
01:34:04,532 --> 01:34:08,572
Speaker 2: going to Be, isn't it. It's not actually called five

1944
01:34:08,652 --> 01:34:19,293
Speaker 2: hundred miles. They also had another incredibly catchy song on

1945
01:34:19,372 --> 01:34:23,413
Speaker 2: on My Way, On My Way for Missuri to happiness.

1946
01:34:26,093 --> 01:34:26,972
Speaker 2: What a chow.

1947
01:34:29,452 --> 01:34:29,732
Speaker 7: Wow.

1948
01:34:32,492 --> 01:34:35,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that song's got something that that's.

1949
01:34:35,732 --> 01:34:38,333
Speaker 3: They were good at earworms, they oll Proclaimers. It is

1950
01:34:38,452 --> 01:34:41,333
Speaker 3: twenty seven past three. Love to hear your ear worms

1951
01:34:41,333 --> 01:34:43,012
Speaker 3: that you've got stuck in your head? Oh one hundred

1952
01:34:43,093 --> 01:34:44,933
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is and number to call headlines with

1953
01:34:45,013 --> 01:34:45,732
Speaker 3: Raylene coming up.

1954
01:34:45,853 --> 01:34:48,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's your opportunity to infect hundreds of thousands of

1955
01:34:48,893 --> 01:34:50,692
Speaker 2: brains with your earworm.

1956
01:34:53,293 --> 01:34:56,772
Speaker 19: Us talk said the headlines with blue Bubble taxis, it's

1957
01:34:56,812 --> 01:35:00,932
Speaker 19: no trouble with a blue bubble. Wellington Electricities recording more

1958
01:35:00,973 --> 01:35:04,852
Speaker 19: than fourteen hundred power outages, many in the Hut Valley.

1959
01:35:05,333 --> 01:35:08,013
Speaker 19: Filthy weathers pounding the bottom of the North Island and

1960
01:35:08,013 --> 01:35:10,972
Speaker 19: many parts in the South. It's brought a red wind

1961
01:35:11,093 --> 01:35:14,812
Speaker 19: warning for the Capitol, with flights and fairies canceled, and

1962
01:35:14,973 --> 01:35:19,333
Speaker 19: orange wind warnings in Marlborough and whited Upper Christach Airport

1963
01:35:19,412 --> 01:35:22,732
Speaker 19: has had its fourth wettest twenty four hours since records began.

1964
01:35:23,372 --> 01:35:27,412
Speaker 19: Orange rain warnings cover Wellington, Wided, Upper Caikoda and Canterbury,

1965
01:35:27,732 --> 01:35:31,852
Speaker 19: and Selwyn has a state of emergency. Thousands of senior

1966
01:35:31,933 --> 01:35:35,372
Speaker 19: doctors are striking today looking for a one point five

1967
01:35:35,412 --> 01:35:39,412
Speaker 19: percent pay rise, joined by nurses also taking industrial action.

1968
01:35:40,452 --> 01:35:43,093
Speaker 19: Auckland police believe a fatal attack on a man at

1969
01:35:43,093 --> 01:35:47,173
Speaker 19: a Puppetoey Thue bus stop on Sunday afternoon wasn't random

1970
01:35:47,333 --> 01:35:52,293
Speaker 19: and a victim and accused her previous interactions. The Greens

1971
01:35:52,452 --> 01:35:56,173
Speaker 19: are teasing their alternative budget, outlining a Ministry of Green

1972
01:35:56,293 --> 01:36:00,812
Speaker 19: Works to support sustainable infrastructure, including forestry, that would create

1973
01:36:00,893 --> 01:36:05,253
Speaker 19: forty thousand jobs. New name on the kit or Blacks

1974
01:36:05,333 --> 01:36:09,693
Speaker 19: a secure multimillion dollar sponsorship deal detailed at NZ Herald Premium.

1975
01:36:09,812 --> 01:36:11,612
Speaker 19: Now back to matt Eath and Tyner Adams.

1976
01:36:11,612 --> 01:36:12,612
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylean.

1977
01:36:12,652 --> 01:36:16,053
Speaker 3: We're talking airworms on the Beck and new science that

1978
01:36:16,133 --> 01:36:17,532
Speaker 3: has come out on the best way to get rid

1979
01:36:17,572 --> 01:36:19,093
Speaker 3: of earworms. We're not going to share it with you

1980
01:36:19,173 --> 01:36:22,012
Speaker 3: right now, but we whoa before the show is done.

1981
01:36:22,053 --> 01:36:24,053
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone knows that they are airworms as an

1982
01:36:24,173 --> 01:36:30,253
Speaker 2: involuntary musical imagery. Songs that repeat in your mind, and look,

1983
01:36:31,492 --> 01:36:34,293
Speaker 2: they do damage. They fill in spots and your working

1984
01:36:34,333 --> 01:36:36,372
Speaker 2: memory that can make it hard to do other things.

1985
01:36:36,412 --> 01:36:38,013
Speaker 2: So they're not they're not great, and sometimes you need

1986
01:36:38,013 --> 01:36:39,412
Speaker 2: to get rid of them. Fine, if you're walking down

1987
01:36:39,452 --> 01:36:41,293
Speaker 2: a street, you're having a bit of a whistle and

1988
01:36:41,333 --> 01:36:44,612
Speaker 2: you're doing something. But if you're doing something complicated, then

1989
01:36:44,652 --> 01:36:48,532
Speaker 2: having a punishingly catchy song playing over and over and

1990
01:36:48,532 --> 01:36:50,372
Speaker 2: repeat in your head can waste some of your mental space.

1991
01:36:50,412 --> 01:36:52,652
Speaker 2: So before the end of the show, we will tell

1992
01:36:52,692 --> 01:36:54,892
Speaker 2: you how to get an airworm out of your head.

1993
01:36:54,893 --> 01:36:56,973
Speaker 2: If you need to concentrate on something else, you need

1994
01:36:57,013 --> 01:36:59,772
Speaker 2: all the brain space well cleaner. But until then we'll

1995
01:36:59,772 --> 01:37:01,412
Speaker 2: try and fill your head with a bunch of earworms.

1996
01:37:01,452 --> 01:37:06,253
Speaker 2: And we're beginning a lot of text around this one. Raymand,

1997
01:37:06,253 --> 01:37:13,853
Speaker 2: welcome to the show. Hi, so your earwim.

1998
01:37:12,093 --> 01:37:15,492
Speaker 12: S Muppets song Melamena.

1999
01:37:18,732 --> 01:37:24,573
Speaker 1: Penomena, Monomena, Phenomena.

2000
01:37:26,532 --> 01:37:31,333
Speaker 2: Do you know the full story about this song, ray Wing, no,

2001
01:37:31,452 --> 01:37:34,052
Speaker 2: no idea. Well, it was actually you know, the first

2002
01:37:34,053 --> 01:37:36,412
Speaker 2: episode of the Muppets in nineteen seventy six was full

2003
01:37:36,452 --> 01:37:38,973
Speaker 2: of amazing skits, including this one. So this was on

2004
01:37:39,013 --> 01:37:41,532
Speaker 2: the first episode of the Mumpets. Muppets, did you know

2005
01:37:41,893 --> 01:37:44,652
Speaker 2: that it was actually originally before they did the version

2006
01:37:44,692 --> 01:37:48,572
Speaker 2: of the Muppets, a tune playing in an adult movie

2007
01:37:48,572 --> 01:37:52,173
Speaker 2: that Jim Henson saw. Are you kidding? Yeah, this song

2008
01:37:52,293 --> 01:37:55,452
Speaker 2: was in an adult movie. Yeah, so Monomena was in

2009
01:37:55,492 --> 01:37:59,692
Speaker 2: the background of a filthy movie that Jim Henson and

2010
01:37:59,692 --> 01:38:02,973
Speaker 2: his mates watched on Super eight. That is great for

2011
01:38:03,013 --> 01:38:07,253
Speaker 2: the Muppets anyway, Monomena. Yeah, so thank you. That'll be

2012
01:38:07,253 --> 01:38:09,652
Speaker 2: stuck in some people's head, so'll they'll thank you for that, Rayman.

2013
01:38:09,933 --> 01:38:11,213
Speaker 3: That's a great piece of trivia.

2014
01:38:11,253 --> 01:38:13,333
Speaker 2: But it does kind of fit like that, doesn't it,

2015
01:38:13,372 --> 01:38:15,652
Speaker 2: Monoma and actually slow you down a little bit and

2016
01:38:15,692 --> 01:38:17,932
Speaker 2: add some sexifie if you actually see the very first

2017
01:38:18,013 --> 01:38:19,852
Speaker 2: things that they did with the Muppets before it become

2018
01:38:19,893 --> 01:38:22,412
Speaker 2: a Muppet TV show. What Jim Henson did. They were

2019
01:38:22,492 --> 01:38:26,012
Speaker 2: quite violent and full on. Yeah, his original muppet Muppet

2020
01:38:26,013 --> 01:38:28,732
Speaker 2: Try was was a lot less clean than it finished

2021
01:38:28,812 --> 01:38:29,173
Speaker 2: up being.

2022
01:38:29,612 --> 01:38:31,572
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

2023
01:38:31,572 --> 01:38:33,973
Speaker 3: to call. What earworm have you got stuck in your heads?

2024
01:38:34,412 --> 01:38:38,692
Speaker 2: Janey, Welcome to the show. Hi, Hello, what have you

2025
01:38:38,692 --> 01:38:39,213
Speaker 2: got for us?

2026
01:38:40,412 --> 01:38:43,732
Speaker 12: So, as a child, every time my dad would put

2027
01:38:43,772 --> 01:38:47,612
Speaker 12: on moon Shadow by Cat Stevens, I would be like, oh.

2028
01:38:47,612 --> 01:38:54,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that is super catching. Wait yeah, and I'll.

2029
01:38:54,492 --> 01:38:54,812
Speaker 19: Tell you what.

2030
01:38:55,253 --> 01:38:58,692
Speaker 2: Anyone that's worked on a film set, well, well we'll

2031
01:38:58,692 --> 01:39:01,412
Speaker 2: know this because you know, when you're in a film seat,

2032
01:39:01,452 --> 01:39:03,812
Speaker 2: there's the there's the boom operator that holds the boom up,

2033
01:39:03,933 --> 01:39:06,732
Speaker 2: and and the and the you know, the cameraman or

2034
01:39:06,732 --> 01:39:09,372
Speaker 2: the dop will often say oh, boom shadow and then

2035
01:39:09,412 --> 01:39:13,293
Speaker 2: everyone will go carry it away by a boom shadow

2036
01:39:13,492 --> 01:39:14,852
Speaker 2: and then it gets stuck in your head for the

2037
01:39:14,933 --> 01:39:15,852
Speaker 2: for the rest of the production.

2038
01:39:16,532 --> 01:39:19,092
Speaker 3: Janey, can you can you give us a few bars

2039
01:39:19,093 --> 01:39:19,893
Speaker 3: of it?

2040
01:39:20,452 --> 01:39:27,252
Speaker 12: Oh God, I've been followed boom shadow Shadow, moon Shadow.

2041
01:39:27,772 --> 01:39:28,612
Speaker 3: It's really good.

2042
01:39:32,333 --> 01:39:34,933
Speaker 28: Shallow shadow.

2043
01:39:35,333 --> 01:39:38,293
Speaker 2: That is an example. Thank you so much for being called Jenny.

2044
01:39:38,333 --> 01:39:41,293
Speaker 2: That's an example of a ear wom that's actually a

2045
01:39:41,333 --> 01:39:46,613
Speaker 2: fantastic song because you know Cat Stevens, Oh yeah, absolute genius. Absolutely,

2046
01:39:46,772 --> 01:39:49,692
Speaker 2: But that's that's a very catchy but also very very

2047
01:39:49,812 --> 01:39:51,333
Speaker 2: very beautiful and good song.

2048
01:39:51,732 --> 01:39:53,972
Speaker 3: A lot of people have been tack seeing through a song.

2049
01:39:54,053 --> 01:39:58,293
Speaker 3: Remember the show Lamb Chop, No, Lamb Chop the Puppet Shop.

2050
01:39:58,412 --> 01:40:00,612
Speaker 2: No, I don't remember it, but I've seen pictures of it,

2051
01:40:00,692 --> 01:40:02,652
Speaker 2: so it's it's it was a woman and she had

2052
01:40:02,772 --> 01:40:03,972
Speaker 2: it was a sock puppet, right.

2053
01:40:03,893 --> 01:40:05,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, so kind of a crazy looking woman and then

2054
01:40:05,853 --> 01:40:08,053
Speaker 3: a sock puppet called Lamb Chop, and Lamb Chop had

2055
01:40:08,053 --> 01:40:09,253
Speaker 3: a bunch your puppet friends.

2056
01:40:09,412 --> 01:40:09,652
Speaker 2: Right.

2057
01:40:09,933 --> 01:40:11,532
Speaker 3: But there was one song on there and it was

2058
01:40:11,572 --> 01:40:14,333
Speaker 3: called the Song that Never Ends, And if I remember it,

2059
01:40:14,372 --> 01:40:15,093
Speaker 3: we're going to play it.

2060
01:40:15,532 --> 01:40:18,453
Speaker 2: This is a song that never ends.

2061
01:40:18,612 --> 01:40:23,532
Speaker 3: It just goes on and ah, my friend, somebody started singing.

2062
01:40:25,253 --> 01:40:27,532
Speaker 3: So we'll try and actually find the actual song. But

2063
01:40:27,572 --> 01:40:30,412
Speaker 3: that is a massive earworm because it just keeps going on.

2064
01:40:30,532 --> 01:40:31,932
Speaker 2: And one here.

2065
01:40:34,492 --> 01:40:38,253
Speaker 3: To find and you love to play if you like funny,

2066
01:40:39,213 --> 01:40:41,333
Speaker 3: that one certainly not that one.

2067
01:40:41,173 --> 01:40:43,053
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

2068
01:40:43,053 --> 01:40:44,572
Speaker 2: call game on and welcome to the show.

2069
01:40:45,893 --> 01:40:47,012
Speaker 17: Hi, how are you boys?

2070
01:40:47,213 --> 01:40:47,893
Speaker 2: Fantastic?

2071
01:40:50,572 --> 01:40:53,853
Speaker 16: The song that gets stuck in my head is that puta.

2072
01:40:54,412 --> 01:40:57,212
Speaker 15: The what one by Ross by Ross.

2073
01:40:57,732 --> 01:41:01,813
Speaker 27: Don't you Want Me like I Want you Baby?

2074
01:41:02,572 --> 01:41:03,293
Speaker 21: You know what I mean?

2075
01:41:03,532 --> 01:41:04,812
Speaker 5: Yes, meet me?

2076
01:41:09,732 --> 01:41:14,492
Speaker 2: That's you want man baby. Yeah, you're right though?

2077
01:41:14,612 --> 01:41:16,532
Speaker 3: Is that one that only came out about a couple

2078
01:41:16,572 --> 01:41:17,173
Speaker 3: of months ago?

2079
01:41:18,253 --> 01:41:20,452
Speaker 21: Oh yeah, yeah, I know, but I don't know how

2080
01:41:20,452 --> 01:41:22,972
Speaker 21: many nights I've broken up in the night and that's

2081
01:41:23,013 --> 01:41:24,652
Speaker 21: going round and round in my head.

2082
01:41:25,093 --> 01:41:26,372
Speaker 24: I actually quite like it.

2083
01:41:27,492 --> 01:41:30,293
Speaker 25: Yeah, it's just yeah, it's definitely airwork.

2084
01:41:30,492 --> 01:41:33,012
Speaker 2: Oh thank you for your call. Gain or a song

2085
01:41:33,053 --> 01:41:36,452
Speaker 2: that's always in my head is no no no no

2086
01:41:36,612 --> 01:41:39,012
Speaker 2: no no no no no no no no no no,

2087
01:41:39,013 --> 01:41:42,492
Speaker 2: no no no no Chelsea Dagger. Yeah that's a great song. Yeah,

2088
01:41:42,532 --> 01:41:44,452
Speaker 2: that's a fantastic song. But that's one that you're here

2089
01:41:44,492 --> 01:41:47,412
Speaker 2: at at the darts when you're watching the darts.

2090
01:41:47,812 --> 01:41:51,133
Speaker 3: Whipp It devo, Yeah, yeah, we're going to play a

2091
01:41:51,133 --> 01:41:52,932
Speaker 3: bit of whipp It shortly. Oh one hundred and eighty

2092
01:41:52,933 --> 01:41:54,812
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call love to hear

2093
01:41:54,812 --> 01:41:56,532
Speaker 3: what your ear? Wom you got stuck in your head

2094
01:41:56,572 --> 01:41:58,532
Speaker 3: at the moment, There is twenty three to.

2095
01:41:58,612 --> 01:42:02,852
Speaker 1: Four Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon

2096
01:42:02,973 --> 01:42:06,732
Speaker 1: rolls on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news Talks.

2097
01:42:06,772 --> 01:42:07,173
Speaker 7: It'd be.

2098
01:42:14,293 --> 01:42:17,812
Speaker 2: Wrong, Yeah, but a whip it from Devo.

2099
01:42:17,933 --> 01:42:19,812
Speaker 3: A lot of people teaching through on that one. I

2100
01:42:19,973 --> 01:42:21,732
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty What is the year

2101
01:42:21,732 --> 01:42:22,812
Speaker 3: whom you got stuck in your head?

2102
01:42:22,933 --> 01:42:25,772
Speaker 2: Right now? We do have the later science out that

2103
01:42:26,093 --> 01:42:27,213
Speaker 2: how to get rid of it and will tell you

2104
01:42:27,452 --> 01:42:29,652
Speaker 2: what that is. Yeah, that's right, you break your heart

2105
01:42:29,732 --> 01:42:31,253
Speaker 2: of course, A lot of people saying that one is

2106
01:42:31,293 --> 01:42:33,293
Speaker 2: the most punishing year. Whim don't you want me? Baby?

2107
01:42:33,293 --> 01:42:37,852
Speaker 2: By the Human League You maybe that's a great jewet

2108
01:42:37,893 --> 01:42:39,532
Speaker 2: that song. So I think that's a good song. That's

2109
01:42:39,532 --> 01:42:41,933
Speaker 2: a that's a great jewet for for for yourself and

2110
01:42:41,973 --> 01:42:45,572
Speaker 2: a and a lady doing the bits fantastic. I did

2111
01:42:45,572 --> 01:42:48,933
Speaker 2: a fantastic version of that with a person that a

2112
01:42:48,973 --> 01:42:52,053
Speaker 2: young lady I met in Montreal karaoke. Yeah, karaoke got

2113
01:42:52,053 --> 01:42:54,533
Speaker 2: on stage and did and did that and just absolutely

2114
01:42:54,572 --> 01:42:57,253
Speaker 2: brought the house Down's beautiful. I beat you until we

2115
01:42:57,253 --> 01:42:58,372
Speaker 2: asked to get off the stage.

2116
01:42:59,732 --> 01:43:01,852
Speaker 3: Ben watch your ear Whom.

2117
01:43:04,812 --> 01:43:06,612
Speaker 2: Show, Thank you Mane.

2118
01:43:06,812 --> 01:43:08,213
Speaker 20: This has been stuck in my head and since I

2119
01:43:08,253 --> 01:43:08,852
Speaker 20: was a little kid.

2120
01:43:10,213 --> 01:43:11,293
Speaker 14: Yeah, sorry, but.

2121
01:43:20,013 --> 01:43:24,892
Speaker 20: Another day.

2122
01:43:25,532 --> 01:43:27,213
Speaker 3: Such a good tune that is.

2123
01:43:28,933 --> 01:43:30,572
Speaker 2: That's got to be one of the most catchy theme

2124
01:43:30,612 --> 01:43:32,812
Speaker 2: tunes ever. In fact, that was the best part of

2125
01:43:32,812 --> 01:43:37,053
Speaker 2: the show. That and when anything to do with the Doozers.

2126
01:43:37,572 --> 01:43:40,132
Speaker 2: But yeah, that is such an insanely catchy song. They

2127
01:43:40,213 --> 01:43:42,892
Speaker 2: remade the Fregles recently, didn't they. There was they tried

2128
01:43:42,933 --> 01:43:46,053
Speaker 2: to remake it, but they messed with the theme, that's right. Yeah,

2129
01:43:46,133 --> 01:43:47,333
Speaker 2: that was about a year ago, wasn't it.

2130
01:43:48,213 --> 01:43:49,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, i't know that.

2131
01:43:49,213 --> 01:43:50,333
Speaker 20: That's what I'll be doing tonight.

2132
01:43:50,492 --> 01:43:53,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a That's an amazingly catchy theme song.

2133
01:43:53,893 --> 01:43:56,852
Speaker 3: Another Jim hymns and classic. But that's the only part

2134
01:43:56,853 --> 01:43:59,293
Speaker 3: of the show I remember. Is that intro tainted love

2135
01:43:59,372 --> 01:44:00,892
Speaker 3: soft cell you have Gangham style?

2136
01:44:01,133 --> 01:44:01,293
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2137
01:44:01,973 --> 01:44:04,452
Speaker 2: Yeah. Another few for Today's Tomorrow to Maru from that

2138
01:44:04,532 --> 01:44:06,092
Speaker 2: excellent Kiwi Ban Deja voodoo.

2139
01:44:06,973 --> 01:44:17,972
Speaker 30: Uh yeah, A few for that beautifully sung that was.

2140
01:44:20,853 --> 01:44:23,612
Speaker 2: Hang on a minute.

2141
01:44:25,253 --> 01:44:26,293
Speaker 4: You wrote the you.

2142
01:44:29,492 --> 01:44:34,213
Speaker 2: Sam your vocal range, You're You're your earworm song.

2143
01:44:35,973 --> 01:44:36,293
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2144
01:44:36,853 --> 01:44:40,053
Speaker 12: I actually think it changes my whole personality when I

2145
01:44:40,093 --> 01:44:42,852
Speaker 12: hear this song because nothing else goes through my head

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01:44:42,973 --> 01:44:43,492
Speaker 12: for a week.

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01:44:44,612 --> 01:44:46,012
Speaker 16: Who let the Dogs Out?

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01:44:48,053 --> 01:44:51,213
Speaker 2: Is that the Baha? Mean that's the Baha men who

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01:44:51,293 --> 01:44:53,492
Speaker 2: let the dogs out?

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01:45:00,093 --> 01:45:01,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. I've got to say those

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01:45:01,812 --> 01:45:04,012
Speaker 3: saying that's also a banger. I mean that's an earworm,

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01:45:04,093 --> 01:45:05,772
Speaker 3: but an earworm that I'm happy to hear again.

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01:45:06,692 --> 01:45:09,333
Speaker 17: Oh it's but if I just you someone that shouldn't

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01:45:09,372 --> 01:45:10,013
Speaker 17: be there, it just.

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01:45:09,973 --> 01:45:10,772
Speaker 14: Comes to my head.

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01:45:12,692 --> 01:45:15,652
Speaker 2: Yeah. That that's that is successful in a song being

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01:45:16,173 --> 01:45:18,773
Speaker 2: stuck in your head if it relates to certain circumstances,

2158
01:45:19,213 --> 01:45:22,052
Speaker 2: you know, if it comes if the if the words

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01:45:22,053 --> 01:45:24,892
Speaker 2: and it come up a lot, and maybe I can't

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01:45:24,893 --> 01:45:27,012
Speaker 2: think of one right now, but there's there's some words

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01:45:27,053 --> 01:45:30,012
Speaker 2: where that the line will pop up in your life.

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01:45:30,053 --> 01:45:31,213
Speaker 2: That's how it gets into your head.

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01:45:31,293 --> 01:45:34,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great one. Radu, What if you up

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01:45:34,772 --> 01:45:35,013
Speaker 3: for us?

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01:45:35,452 --> 01:45:36,053
Speaker 14: Boys?

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01:45:36,293 --> 01:45:36,452
Speaker 19: Man?

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01:45:36,612 --> 01:45:41,093
Speaker 16: It's a German song sing by a guy m O

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01:45:41,412 --> 01:45:45,173
Speaker 16: d oh. It's ein Fly Holy Tide Drive here break

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01:45:45,213 --> 01:45:47,892
Speaker 16: out there bold.

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01:45:48,652 --> 01:45:54,452
Speaker 2: From It's four so by her. How do you spell

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01:45:54,492 --> 01:45:58,372
Speaker 2: the artists m O dah d o m O d

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01:45:58,532 --> 01:46:01,213
Speaker 2: o m O d o m O d.

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01:46:02,973 --> 01:46:03,133
Speaker 15: Oh.

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01:46:03,213 --> 01:46:05,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, they're right, Okay, you got it is a

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01:46:05,853 --> 01:46:09,013
Speaker 2: buff guy, an Italian? An Italian?

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01:46:10,652 --> 01:46:13,652
Speaker 16: Come on, I ain't all right?

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01:46:14,412 --> 01:46:17,013
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, here we go, Here we go, this one

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01:46:17,013 --> 01:46:22,013
Speaker 2: here iron fire, pull tide, idea, frimsics.

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01:46:22,093 --> 01:46:22,612
Speaker 25: I think.

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01:46:27,452 --> 01:46:27,732
Speaker 2: This is.

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01:46:29,412 --> 01:46:29,612
Speaker 9: Wow.

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01:46:29,692 --> 01:46:37,173
Speaker 2: Little drill into your head. That's the sort of stuff

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01:46:37,213 --> 01:46:41,612
Speaker 2: they play in the goola. Isn't it that it's just tortures. Yeah,

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01:46:41,612 --> 01:46:43,093
Speaker 2: you blasted at Waco, wouldn't you?

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01:46:44,213 --> 01:46:44,492
Speaker 6: Man?

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01:46:44,572 --> 01:46:44,973
Speaker 9: I love it?

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01:46:45,692 --> 01:46:46,093
Speaker 4: Well done?

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01:46:46,093 --> 01:46:47,053
Speaker 2: Go Where did you find that?

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01:46:47,372 --> 01:46:47,532
Speaker 16: Right?

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01:46:47,772 --> 01:46:47,893
Speaker 20: Was that?

2191
01:46:48,093 --> 01:46:48,492
Speaker 9: Is that the.

2192
01:46:50,093 --> 01:46:51,132
Speaker 3: The local earworm?

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01:46:55,213 --> 01:46:57,572
Speaker 2: Thank you for your cool mate, appreciate that. That's that's

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01:46:57,612 --> 01:47:00,093
Speaker 2: a punish of people will be stoked that you put

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01:47:00,133 --> 01:47:04,612
Speaker 2: that into the head guys. The another one for lamb chop,

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01:47:04,812 --> 01:47:07,253
Speaker 2: the song that doesn't end. Okay, here we go. I

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01:47:07,293 --> 01:47:09,652
Speaker 2: found that. I found that and here we go and.

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01:47:09,812 --> 01:47:13,612
Speaker 4: It not knowing why it was. And they'll continue singing

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01:47:13,772 --> 01:47:17,973
Speaker 4: it's forever just because he is the song that does.

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01:47:19,772 --> 01:47:20,852
Speaker 21: It goes on and.

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01:47:22,692 --> 01:47:32,572
Speaker 2: Was motivate conten singing. It's going ratheric just because that shong.

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01:47:33,853 --> 01:47:36,213
Speaker 2: That's a that's a but I mean, that's that's a

2203
01:47:36,572 --> 01:47:39,293
Speaker 2: that's designed particularly to be a wounded, isn't it absolutely?

2204
01:47:41,572 --> 01:47:41,692
Speaker 26: Oh?

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01:47:41,812 --> 01:47:43,412
Speaker 3: The Macarina year, that's miss a.

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01:47:43,652 --> 01:47:45,532
Speaker 2: Pan you're your win before we tell you how to

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01:47:45,572 --> 01:47:46,013
Speaker 2: get rid of it.

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01:47:47,372 --> 01:47:47,612
Speaker 4: OK.

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01:47:47,732 --> 01:47:57,013
Speaker 2: Note Rappets aid, oh wow, that's the.

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01:48:05,933 --> 01:48:06,333
Speaker 21: Splorida.

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01:48:07,372 --> 01:48:09,333
Speaker 2: There you go, Pam, that's nice.

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01:48:10,772 --> 01:48:11,133
Speaker 3: Brought us.

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01:48:11,213 --> 01:48:14,812
Speaker 2: There's something about these ear whims. There's a similarity about

2214
01:48:15,452 --> 01:48:17,972
Speaker 2: you know, there's a repetition to them, this last pace.

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01:48:18,093 --> 01:48:19,452
Speaker 2: There's a driving nature of them.

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01:48:19,532 --> 01:48:19,692
Speaker 17: Yeah.

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01:48:19,692 --> 01:48:21,412
Speaker 2: I think they have to be a certain speed.

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01:48:21,213 --> 01:48:22,052
Speaker 3: A little bit droney.

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01:48:22,173 --> 01:48:24,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, that the BPNs have to be have to be

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01:48:24,293 --> 01:48:28,133
Speaker 2: up there. Yeah, uh mars, pump up the volume. Yeah,

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01:48:28,173 --> 01:48:28,932
Speaker 2: that's a messive one.

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01:48:29,452 --> 01:48:34,372
Speaker 3: Hi boys, try uh try Japanese Boy by a Nikki,

2223
01:48:34,492 --> 01:48:38,092
Speaker 3: great galloping beat that gets you caught in it. Japanese

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01:48:38,133 --> 01:48:40,093
Speaker 3: Boy by a Nikki, will try and find that one?

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01:48:42,053 --> 01:48:42,412
Speaker 6: Is that it.

2226
01:48:50,372 --> 01:48:51,973
Speaker 2: Is this the Baby Sharks one.

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01:49:05,173 --> 01:49:10,372
Speaker 3: Army shukmmy. Such a deep base to it, though, isn't it.

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01:49:10,412 --> 01:49:14,333
Speaker 3: I forgot how deep that base is. That drop is great.

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01:49:14,173 --> 01:49:16,732
Speaker 2: Song, Johnny the we got it for you in advance,

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01:49:16,812 --> 01:49:17,892
Speaker 2: Baby Shark, you big fan.

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01:49:19,013 --> 01:49:20,892
Speaker 6: I was just going to say, having grandkids have been

2232
01:49:20,933 --> 01:49:21,933
Speaker 6: tormented with that for.

2233
01:49:22,093 --> 01:49:26,893
Speaker 2: Years, fresh grand pigs. Grandkids come through and find it

2234
01:49:26,933 --> 01:49:27,732
Speaker 2: at different times.

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01:49:29,053 --> 01:49:29,253
Speaker 9: Yes.

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01:49:29,492 --> 01:49:34,293
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, the other thing I wanted to talk so quickly?

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01:49:34,492 --> 01:49:34,612
Speaker 23: Was that?

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01:49:35,093 --> 01:49:35,293
Speaker 16: You know?

2239
01:49:35,933 --> 01:49:38,652
Speaker 6: There was a shrink and cricketer called Muhammamah and I

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01:49:38,652 --> 01:49:40,572
Speaker 6: remember being at the base and then he came into

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01:49:40,652 --> 01:49:42,933
Speaker 6: bak and one side of the Mahamamah.

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01:49:46,652 --> 01:49:47,053
Speaker 4: I don't know what.

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01:49:49,452 --> 01:49:54,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might not have got the reference. Nikki, how

2244
01:49:54,053 --> 01:49:58,732
Speaker 2: are you hope NICKI got you on there?

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01:49:59,492 --> 01:49:59,652
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:49:59,692 --> 01:50:00,453
Speaker 2: The NICKI.

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01:50:02,053 --> 01:50:02,253
Speaker 6: Get?

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01:50:02,532 --> 01:50:03,372
Speaker 2: And what's your airworm?

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01:50:04,732 --> 01:50:06,612
Speaker 18: Let's Robin GANGAI is on?

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01:50:07,893 --> 01:50:09,213
Speaker 20: You've got They're here in the.

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01:50:11,652 --> 01:50:11,812
Speaker 9: One.

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01:50:12,812 --> 01:50:13,492
Speaker 2: Who's that boy?

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01:50:14,652 --> 01:50:17,053
Speaker 16: It's by Charlie Poof. Let's marve and.

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01:50:17,133 --> 01:50:19,612
Speaker 26: Gain and get it on right.

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01:50:19,893 --> 01:50:22,372
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, I've got it here.

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01:50:23,173 --> 01:50:24,492
Speaker 23: Oh no, no.

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01:50:25,253 --> 01:50:28,133
Speaker 2: For some reason, Google wanted to create an image of

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01:50:28,372 --> 01:50:30,612
Speaker 2: Charlie Poof and Ai, because you know Ai is in

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01:50:30,732 --> 01:50:34,732
Speaker 2: charge of everything. Here we go, that's one. Here we

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01:50:34,973 --> 01:50:38,133
Speaker 2: got this kid says to us, Oh, sexy.

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01:50:39,732 --> 01:50:40,012
Speaker 16: Show.

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01:50:40,812 --> 01:50:48,972
Speaker 2: This is a good song. Yeah, it's kind of suture showing.

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01:50:49,532 --> 01:51:02,932
Speaker 2: Oh wow, who have we got to the chorus yet, Nikki?

2264
01:51:03,013 --> 01:51:07,412
Speaker 2: Or am I just playing versus one? Here we go,

2265
01:51:07,532 --> 01:51:08,213
Speaker 2: pump at everyone.

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01:51:08,412 --> 01:51:15,412
Speaker 4: Ooo, that's mommy game.

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01:51:15,692 --> 01:51:19,732
Speaker 2: Get it out, beautiful, you got the hell?

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01:51:19,812 --> 01:51:20,333
Speaker 4: I'm kind of.

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01:51:23,133 --> 01:51:26,213
Speaker 2: Just like they said of song to show us a

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01:51:26,253 --> 01:51:34,213
Speaker 2: sixy video Nikki game. All right, rachy, that is that

2271
01:51:34,333 --> 01:51:35,092
Speaker 2: is definitely catchy.

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01:51:35,213 --> 01:51:36,812
Speaker 17: Thank you that.

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01:51:36,933 --> 01:51:40,333
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're absolutely right with this one. Phil

2274
01:51:41,372 --> 01:51:45,452
Speaker 2: your your ear whim? Yeah yeah, I was thinking of

2275
01:51:45,692 --> 01:51:48,812
Speaker 2: the you drink some whiskey, drink, you drink some lager drink,

2276
01:51:49,173 --> 01:51:51,492
Speaker 2: tell members of bad times.

2277
01:51:52,532 --> 01:51:54,213
Speaker 20: I get knocked down, I get up again.

2278
01:51:54,333 --> 01:51:55,653
Speaker 4: The old Top company.

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01:52:00,253 --> 01:52:02,293
Speaker 2: And the previous radio station is on. I got banned

2280
01:52:02,293 --> 01:52:06,932
Speaker 2: from playing this trying to stop it into most radio

2281
01:52:06,973 --> 01:52:09,412
Speaker 2: shows that I'm big van.

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01:52:09,812 --> 01:52:10,452
Speaker 3: It's a good song.

2283
01:52:11,213 --> 01:52:15,732
Speaker 2: Look, it's a good it's a good motto to thumping

2284
01:52:15,933 --> 01:52:17,293
Speaker 2: nossing the Nina work.

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01:52:19,612 --> 01:52:21,692
Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much, mate, that's a great one.

2286
01:52:22,692 --> 01:52:26,253
Speaker 2: All right, so shall we shall we let people out

2287
01:52:26,253 --> 01:52:29,013
Speaker 2: of their misery? Now, how you get rid of an ear?

2288
01:52:29,053 --> 01:52:29,852
Speaker 3: Will I take it's tine?

2289
01:52:30,732 --> 01:52:32,972
Speaker 2: Okay, It's going to be actually a real anti climax.

2290
01:52:33,013 --> 01:52:34,652
Speaker 2: After we've built this up for a whole hour of

2291
01:52:34,853 --> 01:52:38,692
Speaker 2: absolutely punishing radio playing people, songs will be stuck in

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01:52:39,053 --> 01:52:41,572
Speaker 2: the head because, as we're saying before this, this new research,

2293
01:52:41,652 --> 01:52:43,812
Speaker 2: in this this article that we've read in the Washington

2294
01:52:44,133 --> 01:52:48,412
Speaker 2: Washington Post says that it's actually can be problematic to

2295
01:52:48,572 --> 01:52:50,892
Speaker 2: have an earworm running around in your head in terms

2296
01:52:50,893 --> 01:52:53,293
Speaker 2: of productivity, because it uses up one of the spaces

2297
01:52:53,293 --> 01:52:56,572
Speaker 2: in your working memory. So to stop an earworm, if

2298
01:52:56,612 --> 01:52:59,812
Speaker 2: you want to clear one of these out, the best

2299
01:52:59,812 --> 01:53:02,333
Speaker 2: advice here is to sing your national anthem in your head.

2300
01:53:03,572 --> 01:53:06,652
Speaker 2: So for some reason, and this happens across the American

2301
01:53:06,772 --> 01:53:12,093
Speaker 2: national anthem and the God Save the King and God

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01:53:12,133 --> 01:53:15,532
Speaker 2: Defend New Zealand. There's something about national anthems that won't

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01:53:15,572 --> 01:53:18,412
Speaker 2: stick in your head. So very few people walk around

2304
01:53:18,532 --> 01:53:22,732
Speaker 2: singing God of Nations. You know they don't. So if

2305
01:53:22,772 --> 01:53:24,852
Speaker 2: you put that in your head, it stops the other one,

2306
01:53:24,973 --> 01:53:27,612
Speaker 2: but it won't catch. That is genius your national anthem

2307
01:53:27,973 --> 01:53:29,652
Speaker 2: and the other thing that you can do as well

2308
01:53:30,412 --> 01:53:32,173
Speaker 2: if you want to get rid of an ear women's

2309
01:53:32,213 --> 01:53:34,893
Speaker 2: your head. According to this this this new paper on it,

2310
01:53:35,213 --> 01:53:37,692
Speaker 2: it's good to know that people are spending their time.

2311
01:53:38,173 --> 01:53:41,852
Speaker 2: Well done scientists for this research as chewing gum apparent.

2312
01:53:42,452 --> 01:53:46,213
Speaker 2: Apparently if you're chewing gum, then you an earwim will

2313
01:53:46,213 --> 01:53:47,133
Speaker 2: disappear from your head.

2314
01:53:47,652 --> 01:53:49,852
Speaker 3: So there you go sing God Defend New Zealand, will

2315
01:53:49,933 --> 01:53:51,532
Speaker 3: chewing gum and you'll be cleansed.

2316
01:53:51,732 --> 01:53:54,253
Speaker 2: Leaves Membo number five from your head.

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01:53:54,692 --> 01:53:57,372
Speaker 3: Very good, right, it is nine minutes to fall back

2318
01:53:57,452 --> 01:53:58,972
Speaker 3: very shortly here on News Talks EB.

2319
01:54:00,293 --> 01:54:03,652
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2320
01:54:04,013 --> 01:54:04,932
Speaker 1: everything in between.

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01:54:05,213 --> 01:54:09,372
Speaker 4: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons Used Talk said on News

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01:54:09,452 --> 01:54:10,892
Speaker 4: Dog ZB six to.

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01:54:10,933 --> 01:54:13,732
Speaker 2: Four, Well that's been horribly irresponsible hour of radio.

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01:54:13,812 --> 01:54:14,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're sorry we did that to you.

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01:54:15,093 --> 01:54:18,093
Speaker 2: New Zealand following people with a bunch of earworms. That

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01:54:18,333 --> 01:54:20,852
Speaker 2: will allow productivity. But as we said before, if you

2327
01:54:21,293 --> 01:54:23,532
Speaker 2: if you think of the national anthem or your chew gum,

2328
01:54:23,572 --> 01:54:25,293
Speaker 2: then you can get rid of an airworm and that

2329
01:54:25,452 --> 01:54:28,612
Speaker 2: working that space in your working memory will be returned

2330
01:54:28,612 --> 01:54:30,133
Speaker 2: to you to be used for what you need to do.

2331
01:54:30,293 --> 01:54:31,133
Speaker 3: Yep, that'll cleanse you.

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01:54:31,452 --> 01:54:34,333
Speaker 2: So we've got thousands of texts on this and hundreds

2333
01:54:34,373 --> 01:54:37,333
Speaker 2: of phone calls, but what is what would you say

2334
01:54:37,373 --> 01:54:39,493
Speaker 2: with the top five earworms that came through?

2335
01:54:39,893 --> 01:54:45,373
Speaker 3: So we had baby Shark number five, we had today tomorrow.

2336
01:54:45,093 --> 01:54:49,333
Speaker 2: To Marujavoo that's snuck in at number four, Good Song,

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01:54:50,213 --> 01:54:55,093
Speaker 2: number three, Crazy Frog, horrible Yeah, number two, Mumbo number

2338
01:54:55,253 --> 01:54:57,293
Speaker 2: five horrible Yeah, Punish.

2339
01:54:57,253 --> 01:54:59,932
Speaker 3: And number one Proclaimers five hundred miles.

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01:54:59,973 --> 01:55:02,533
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a good list. Good list. Yeah. What about

2341
01:55:03,013 --> 01:55:05,333
Speaker 2: Regency Plumbing Codden.

2342
01:55:06,013 --> 01:55:08,573
Speaker 3: That's a massive airworm that's come through as well. Funny

2343
01:55:08,613 --> 01:55:11,333
Speaker 3: you mentioned that it's actually their birthday today, Regency Plumbing

2344
01:55:11,373 --> 01:55:14,972
Speaker 3: twenty seven years. So happy birthday, Regency Plumbing twenty seven years.

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01:55:15,013 --> 01:55:16,493
Speaker 3: It's a good note. Good not in business.

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01:55:16,533 --> 01:55:18,653
Speaker 2: Oh, they're well done. Well, thanks all your great New

2347
01:55:18,693 --> 01:55:20,852
Speaker 2: Zealanders for listening this afternoon. The complete Matt and Tyler

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01:55:20,893 --> 01:55:23,453
Speaker 2: Afternoon's podcast will be out in about half an hour

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01:55:23,493 --> 01:55:25,693
Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio or if you get your pods. So if

2350
01:55:25,693 --> 01:55:28,613
Speaker 2: you missed any of our excellent chats on Mark Zuckerberg,

2351
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Speaker 2: who told a podcast that social media isn't a bad thing.

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01:55:32,373 --> 01:55:35,373
Speaker 2: But you know he would, wouldn't he the best financial advice?

2353
01:55:35,493 --> 01:55:37,893
Speaker 2: We talked about that, and we punish you with a

2354
01:55:37,893 --> 01:55:40,333
Speaker 2: bunch of earworms. So listen to the pod. It's a

2355
01:55:40,373 --> 01:55:42,772
Speaker 2: good time. The great and powerful Heather to see Ellen

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01:55:42,933 --> 01:55:46,973
Speaker 2: is up next. Until next down where you are what

2357
01:55:47,053 --> 01:55:50,333
Speaker 2: are you doing for the rest of your day? Give

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01:55:50,413 --> 01:55:52,892
Speaker 2: them a taste of Kiwi. See here tomorrow

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01:56:31,973 --> 01:56:34,533
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