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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. A cracking way to start

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Speaker 1: your Saturday. Saturday mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for Jack

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Speaker 1: Tame and BE Pure Quality Supplements for Essential Energy News

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Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to Saturday Morning with Jack Tame.

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Speaker 2: I'm for Jessica Rudkin filling in for Jack. Good to

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Speaker 2: have you with us. One of the most anticipated films

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Speaker 2: of the year was released on Thursday. Bridley Scott's Gladiated

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Speaker 2: two is hugely entertaining, but it's also got some interesting

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Speaker 2: performances and the plot is very similar to the original.

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Speaker 2: Chris Schultz will give us his though on the film shortly.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite cookbooks from twenty twenty four is

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Speaker 2: The Two Raw Sisters More Salads, and I'm delighted that

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Speaker 2: Raw Sister Margo Flanagan is going to join us this

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Speaker 2: hour with her recipe for a grilled asparagus with mint,

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Speaker 2: lemon and pine nut salcer. Sounds good, doesn't it. And

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Speaker 2: Andrew Saville joins us. Can the All Blacks make it

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Speaker 2: three out of three? Tomorrow morning on the Northern Tour

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Speaker 2: against France, I reckon.

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Speaker 1: They can franchiers good.

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Speaker 2: On Tuesday, the Prime Minister, the leader of the Opposition,

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Speaker 2: and public sector leaders formerly apologized to survivors of abusing care.

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Speaker 2: They spoke with sincerity and an understanding of what these

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Speaker 2: victims had been through, But the most powerful words of

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Speaker 2: the day belonged to survivors the abusing care role. Commission

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Speaker 2: of inquiry took six years, the final reporters three thousand

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Speaker 2: pages long and features one hundred and thirty recommendations. Tuesday

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Speaker 2: was the first step in addressing this horrific abuse of

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Speaker 2: vulnerable people, acknowledging it through a formal apology. This might

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Speaker 2: not sound like much, but many a leader and opposition

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Speaker 2: has spoken out about this issue, only to shy away

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Speaker 2: and protect the Crown from liability when in power. So

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Speaker 2: it was something. But as we all know, as sincere

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Speaker 2: and empathetic as those words were, it's what happens next

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Speaker 2: that matter is the actions taken that will make a

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Speaker 2: difference to survivors lives. It is the responsibility of this

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Speaker 2: government and those to come to support survivors of abuse,

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Speaker 2: hold those responsible accountable and prevent it happening again. And

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Speaker 2: this is a difficult task. There are many individual circumstances

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Speaker 2: over an extensive period of time, committed by a variety

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Speaker 2: of institutions. It is going to take some time to

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Speaker 2: structure a system through which people are fairly compensated, but

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Speaker 2: they must be compensated. Money doesn't make up for what happened,

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Speaker 2: but for those who have been abused, ignored, lived lives

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Speaker 2: filled with trauma and shame, some unable to live their

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Speaker 2: jobs have fulfilling relationships. Compensation is a form of validation

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Speaker 2: and goes some way to healing the pain. When asked

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Speaker 2: about what some have termed the can of worms, the

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Speaker 2: inquiry and apology has opened. I was impressed with Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister Chris Luxen's resolve to deal with it while acknowledging

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Speaker 2: it will be messy and hard and that the government

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Speaker 2: will not satisfy everyone's expectations. But just because something is

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Speaker 2: hard doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. If you're in

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Speaker 2: politics and avoid doing something which is so fundamentally right

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Speaker 2: and moral because it's hard, then please pack up and

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Speaker 2: go home. For victims waiting for up to seventy years

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Speaker 2: for redress, I can understand the skepticism about what comes next.

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Speaker 2: Something tells me, though, that Eric Stanford, the lead coordination

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Speaker 2: hard things. The Prime Minister, who has read all three

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Speaker 2: thousand pages of the Royal Commission, reports that if you

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Speaker 2: want to understand the gravity of what's happened, go and

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Speaker 2: read a few of the survivor's accounts. And I took

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Speaker 2: This is not a redress we want to do halfheartedly. Equally,

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Speaker 2: it needs to be done with some urgency. While the

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Speaker 2: us how committed they are to taking responsibility. So let's

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Speaker 2: just do this once. Let's do this right. Let's do

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Speaker 2: Francesca yep so not interested in focusing on the barriers

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Speaker 2: Let's just get on and fix it and give survivors

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Speaker 2: keen to hear from you. You can text on ninety two

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Speaker 1: Done your weekend on in Style for Saturday Mornings with

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Speaker 2: Be lovely to have you with us. It is fourteen

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Speaker 3: Very good?

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Speaker 4: Thank you Francesca excellent though I thought this morning I

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Speaker 4: might pay tribute to two superb communicators. One you'll know,

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Speaker 4: the other maybe not. Did you used to listen as

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Speaker 4: a kid to lindsay Oh on the radio? No, or

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Speaker 4: we're not in his neck of the words?

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Speaker 2: No, not in the neck of the world.

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Speaker 4: No, No, he passed away during the week and Nelson

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Speaker 4: aged seventy eight. Lindsay O used to host the breakfast

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Speaker 4: show on two ZB for many years. This was before

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Speaker 4: Breakfast shows back then didn't just bring in huge adult audiences.

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Speaker 4: But I have to tend to wait when Lindsey rang

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Speaker 4: Francesca are just as likely to remember Lindsay's character Buzzo

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Speaker 4: Bumble that the man himself created as a parent. I

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Speaker 4: He had a fabulous radio voice, he could sing, he

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Speaker 4: at Sydney's at Lindsay's passing this week, and speaking of

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Speaker 4: people who are funny and can act, I had the

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Speaker 4: shows simple He walks out on stage, sits on a

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Speaker 4: in his life. Often they've involved uber famous people he

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Speaker 4: knew her, Diana, Paul McCartney, Rowan Atkinson, Steve Jobs, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 4: And he mimics all of those people to perfection. I've

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Speaker 4: as Stephen prided on Thursday Night. His stories when all

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Speaker 4: all funny. They he described life being bipolar, a condition

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Speaker 4: he shares with so many others and volunteers so much

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Speaker 2: In the news recently criticizing the weight loss drug os

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Speaker 4: No, not not in not many left that was mentioned

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Speaker 4: in a broader In a broader conversation he covers such

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Speaker 2: I think you right. But he does have this beautiful

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Speaker 2: way of communicating that I'm sure that everybody found like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's superb.

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Speaker 5: Actually, he's a.

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Speaker 4: You leave thinking I'm never going to do a public

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Speaker 4: but his his way with words is extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've really enjoyed his books. Actually, I brought the

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Speaker 6: He is.

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Speaker 4: In fact, some of the stories that he told heard

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Speaker 4: I thought I've heard this port somewhere, and I realized

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Speaker 2: Well, Kevin, I will leave you to then ponder how

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Speaker 2: much for your time today, Love you to catch up.

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Speaker 2: B thank you so much for your text Sally text

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Speaker 2: I'm very good to thank you. Let's get straight to it.

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Speaker 2: Can the All Blacks make it three out of three

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Speaker 3: So the French are a little bit under strength. I've

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Speaker 3: and the All Blacks are battle hardened. Plenty of intrigue

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Speaker 3: the coming years. I'd say form permitting injuries, permitting to

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Speaker 3: I think he probably should have started last week. But

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean these are big games. I like the

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Speaker 2: My guest after ten this morning is Andy Allis, former

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Speaker 10: Love, a little adventure of a lifetime there Coldplay.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Coldplay kicked off their tour, their Sphears World

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Speaker 2: the best birthday ever, Entertainment correspond at this morning. Chris

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Speaker 2: Schultz was also there last night, and from the look

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Speaker 11: Oh look, I don't want to rain on everyone's parade.

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Speaker 11: There's one hundred and sixty odd thousand people going to

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Speaker 2: So I've always said Colpe never do a bad gig.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're so professional, they're so good at what

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Speaker 12: But you.

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Speaker 12: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on to things, which is what you're here

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Speaker 2: to do. Let's have a listen to Gladiator too.

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Speaker 12: It is an art choosing gladiators.

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Speaker 13: They're usually prisoners of war.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've been waiting years for this number, haven't we

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Speaker 2: Twenty four years? It's back and it's I've got a

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Speaker 11: Ridley Scott is eighty six years old. He does not

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Speaker 11: Denzel Washington was great. You know, in a trailer he

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Speaker 11: looked really out of place and everyone was complaining about it.

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Speaker 11: And I think in the movie he actually steals the show.

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Speaker 11: I haven't seen him playing a role like that where

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Speaker 11: he's sort of this manipulative ladder climber, right, He's trying

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Speaker 11: to get to the top, and he's playing everyone off

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Speaker 11: against each other.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was perfect, and he uses his words beautifully.

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Speaker 2: He delivers it a little bit like like Shakespeare.

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Speaker 11: His life very Shakespeare.

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Speaker 2: It really has fun with it, you know what.

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Speaker 11: I reckon Ridley Scott had one scene in mind when

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Speaker 11: he first set out to make this movie, and you

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Speaker 11: know what, it's the middle scene. It's a battle in

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Speaker 11: the Colosseum. They filled it with water. They bring out

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Speaker 11: these two warships and they fight to the death and

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Speaker 11: there are sharks in the water. It's so over the top.

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Speaker 11: I don't know how historically accurate that is. Did that

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Speaker 11: ever happen? I don't know, but it looks incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I don't think we should be looking

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Speaker 2: for historical accuracy attitude, but you should definitely go and

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Speaker 2: see it on the big screen. It is worth it.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to my old ass. I thought

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Speaker 2: it'd be happier at forty.

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Speaker 9: You are happy.

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Speaker 6: You don't look happy.

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Speaker 13: I feel like you're having a midlife crisis.

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Speaker 2: Well, I feel like you're higher on mushrooms.

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Speaker 13: So you don't know.

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Speaker 2: Too, Elliott, No, not the whole bag. May you experience

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Speaker 2: a new level of consciousness to make Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: are you guys tripping? I love an edgy coming of

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Speaker 2: age story, and this one is screening on Prime Video

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Speaker 2: and I'll watch anything with Aubrey Plaza in it.

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Speaker 11: Oh, she's almost like a genre into herself, right, I'm

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Speaker 11: the last three Aubrey Plaza films I've seen are like

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Speaker 11: an awkward crime caper, an awkward indie rom comm and

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Speaker 11: then like a Jason Statham action movie. But everything sort

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Speaker 11: of like bends towards her.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen that yet. Friends get no, But that's

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Speaker 2: a category all of its own.

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Speaker 11: I think she's great, She's actually not in this that.

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Speaker 11: So this is a film about an eighteen year old

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Speaker 11: she's leaving her parents Cranberry farm. She's she's leaving her

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Speaker 11: small town life, and she's going off to university and

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Speaker 11: then she meets a boy. But in the meantime, she

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Speaker 11: goes into the woods, she takes mushrooms with her friends,

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Speaker 11: and her thirty nine year old older self shows up.

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Speaker 11: And so it's sort of that question of how much

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Speaker 11: do you want to know about what's coming and would

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Speaker 11: you change anything along the way. This actually got me

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Speaker 11: a little bit at It's very emotional. I it caught

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Speaker 11: me in a bit of a low moment in the day.

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Speaker 11: And look, I'm not going to confirm or deny whether

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Speaker 11: it was raining on my face, but it may have

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Speaker 11: been as a.

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Speaker 2: Parent of a teenager who was about to leave home

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Speaker 2: and you're trying to sort of you got this moment

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Speaker 2: where you're trying to sort of impress some I don't know,

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Speaker 2: just some life knowledge or wisdom on them before they

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Speaker 2: head off on their own and they really just in

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Speaker 2: the cat they've sat at the horse near galloping off.

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Speaker 2: You know, it kind of did speak to me a

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Speaker 2: little bit. I love the way they did this. I

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Speaker 2: just thought this was really quirky and a little bit different.

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Speaker 11: Mazy Stella the lead actor. The camera loves her. She's

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Speaker 11: going to be a big Stara. I think she's so

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Speaker 11: good on us and it's a real good platform for

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Speaker 11: her just to show off her talent.

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Speaker 2: I thought, I know that name, and I used to

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Speaker 2: watch that show Nashville, you know, the country singer. She

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Speaker 2: was one of the kids. She's like this crazy talented kid,

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Speaker 2: you know, singer. She's a singer and a songwriter as

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Speaker 2: well as an actor. And she was one of the

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Speaker 2: kids in Nashville.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, there we go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, then brilliant two recommendations. They're Gladiator two,

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Speaker 2: which go to the cinemas and just watch it. It

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Speaker 2: is great entertainment. And my old ass which you will

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Speaker 2: find on Prime video. Hey, we were talking about the

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Speaker 2: rugby before, and I meant to mention that, of course,

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Speaker 2: being the home of sport, the game will be live

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Speaker 2: here on news Talks. He'd be Tomorrow morning at nine

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Speaker 2: ten a m. The All Blacks will be wearing white,

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Speaker 2: but Elliott Smith will have that live commentary for you

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Speaker 2: Sunday session. Won't be with you unfortunately tomorrow, but can't

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Speaker 2: wait to see how the rugby goes right. The key

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Speaker 2: to looking perfect asparagus and a lovely fresh asparagus recipe

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Speaker 2: is for your next you with Newstalk.

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Speaker 1: There be no better way to kick off your weekend

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Speaker 1: than with Francesco. Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for

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Speaker 1: Jack Tame and BEP Pure Quality Supplements for Essential Energy

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 2: We've got a fabulous recipe for you this morning. One

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Speaker 2: of my favorite cookbooks of the year is The Two

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Speaker 2: Raw Sisters More Salad, and I'm very more Salads and

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited to have Margo Flannigan, one of the

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Speaker 2: Two Rule Sisters, with us this morning. Good morning Margo,

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Speaker 2: Good morning Francesca.

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Speaker 15: How are you very good?

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Speaker 2: Love you to talk to you. You're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about You've got a lovely asparagus salad for us today,

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Speaker 2: But first of all, can you give us a tip?

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us the best way to cook asparagus?

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Speaker 16: Oh?

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Speaker 17: I sure can. I like it simple, hard and fast

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Speaker 17: and simple. So how I like to do it is

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Speaker 17: on a hot pan or hot barbie, add some oil

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Speaker 17: on the air, put the asparagus on lots of sea salt,

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Speaker 17: and I cook it for about I would say, four

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Speaker 17: to five minutes in total, just kind of turning every

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Speaker 17: now and again, but not too often, because you want

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Speaker 17: to get that nice chart on the asparagus, but you

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Speaker 17: don't want to overcook it. So it's really important to

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Speaker 17: just leave it for a minute or so on each

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Speaker 17: side before you turn, so that it gets a chance

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Speaker 17: to chart. That would be That would be my way.

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Speaker 17: That's not it's not rocket science, not delicious.

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Speaker 13: I think I do like that.

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Speaker 2: Because, as you say, you get that, you get that

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Speaker 2: chart on that crunch, but you haven't overcooked it, and

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Speaker 2: it's all sort of just a bit soggy and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: not good of course sort of. At this time of

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Speaker 2: the year, we're starting to crave fresher, lighter foods, aren't we.

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Speaker 2: So tell us a little bit about this, This recipe

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Speaker 2: grilled asparagus with mint, lemon and pineanut salcer.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: I love this recipe. I think we make it. I thought,

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Speaker 17: let's make the most of asparagus season. I've got some

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Speaker 17: options as well for if you want to make this

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Speaker 17: recipe and asparagussm in sea. But veggie sides are just

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Speaker 17: so good, and you can pair this worth whether you

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Speaker 17: want a light dinner, whether it be with a green salad,

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Speaker 17: or if you want something a bit more substantial with

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Speaker 17: like Krispy potatoes or with a grain based salad. I

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Speaker 17: actually had this last night with some lamb Chrispy potatoes

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Speaker 17: and a green salad, and it was just the perfect

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Speaker 17: holiday barbecue dinner. It was, and it was so easy.

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Speaker 17: It was ready in like twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: I wish I was it yours for dinner last night.

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Speaker 2: Nigo talk us through the recipe.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, sure, so cook you asparagus first, I'd do that.

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Speaker 17: So just as I talked about before, hot pan or

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Speaker 17: barbie oil, sea salt cod for about four to five minutes,

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Speaker 17: and then we make our salsa. So this salsa as

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Speaker 17: well was really delicious. On sourdough is like a brunchy

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Speaker 17: type of thing. There's lots of different ways on how

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Speaker 17: you can use this. So avocado, so just chop up

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Speaker 17: an avocado into slick chunks. And then we've got a

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Speaker 17: cup of mint, just roughly chopped. So if you don't

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Speaker 17: have mint at home, you can use basil, you can

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Speaker 17: use parsley, coriander, you can use a mixture of herbs,

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Speaker 17: just whatever you've got in the garden or in the fridge.

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Speaker 17: And then we've got three tablespoons of pine nuts. We toasteeds.

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Speaker 17: I think it's toasting your nuts and seeds. It brings

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Speaker 17: out the flavor a lot more so it'd highly recommend

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Speaker 17: doing that. If you don't have pine nuts or pine

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Speaker 17: nuts are just out of your budget, you can use

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Speaker 17: any other nut or seed, whether that you pumpkin seeds, almonds, walnuts,

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Speaker 17: whatever you've got in the pantry again can be a

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Speaker 17: mix of a couple. And then we've got the juice

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Speaker 17: of one lemon. You can use a lime, you can

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Speaker 17: use preserved lemons. You can use a bit of apple

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Speaker 17: cider vinegar if you don't have either of those options.

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Speaker 17: And then we've got two tablespoons of extraversion olive oil,

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Speaker 17: half a teaspoon of chili flakes, and half a teaspoon

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Speaker 17: of sea salt. So put all of that in a bowl,

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Speaker 17: mix it together, and then top it over your fresh

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Speaker 17: sheet grilled asparagus, and it's as easy as that.

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Speaker 2: Another way you offer the simple swaps, and this is

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Speaker 2: something that you do throughout your cookbook, which is a

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Speaker 2: great idea for those of us who maybe imagination in

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Speaker 2: the kitchen is a little bit limited just about to

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Speaker 2: think about this themselves, but being able to swap out

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Speaker 2: the asparagus for the zucchini is a.

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Speaker 17: Great idea, Yeah, for sure. And also you could do

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Speaker 17: like roasted eggplant quarters as well. Eggplants are coming into

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Speaker 17: season so they're becoming a bit more cheaper, so you

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Speaker 17: can you can do that too. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 17: it's just having the confidence to swap, especially as we

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Speaker 17: come into summer, if you're heading to the batch and

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Speaker 17: the pantry may not be as well stopped as what

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Speaker 17: you've got at home. It is really important to kind

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Speaker 17: of think outside of the box or think or have

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Speaker 17: the confidence to think, oh, yeah, i've got armonds of

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Speaker 17: the instead of pine nuts, I've got loads of zucchinis.

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Speaker 17: I can just use those instead and kind of use

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Speaker 17: the recipe as a guideline. There's a lot less stress

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Speaker 17: in the kitchen.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that pine nut salsa does that? Can you keep that.

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Speaker 9: Does that?

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Speaker 17: Does that last in the fridge because it's got avocado.

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Speaker 17: I would probably keep it for Maybe you can make

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Speaker 17: it three hours in advance if you like, But I

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Speaker 17: probably wouldn't keep it overnight. I'm quite fussy with my avocados.

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Speaker 17: I like them freshly cut. So I mean, if that

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Speaker 17: doesn't FaZe you, then sure it would last overnight. But yeah,

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Speaker 17: I would probably do it fresh there.

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Speaker 2: And then I could probably stretch it overnight. Margo, it

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Speaker 2: sounds like I had quite a good breakfast.

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Speaker 9: Hey, love you to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the recipe. That was Margot

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Speaker 2: Flanagan there fillingham for Nicky. She is two raw sisters

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Speaker 2: have got a great cookbook out called More Salads, and

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Speaker 2: you'll be able to find that recipe on our website.

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Speaker 2: Newstalk ZIDB dot co dot m Z. It is eleven

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Speaker 2: Be Chris Stultz and I were talking about Gladiator to

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Speaker 2: this hour and he mentioned this fantastic scenes sort of

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the film, whereby they filled the

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Speaker 2: Viking looking ships with different parties on them going at

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00:33:18,013 --> 00:33:20,613
Speaker 2: each other and things. And I have a text saying

651
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Speaker 2: the Romans did fill the place with water and stage

652
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Speaker 2: to see battles. Not sure about the sharks, No, I'm

653
00:33:26,533 --> 00:33:28,493
Speaker 2: not sure about the sharks. I read that Ridley Scott

654
00:33:28,613 --> 00:33:30,533
Speaker 2: sort of did make the comment that, you know, obviously

655
00:33:30,533 --> 00:33:33,253
Speaker 2: there's a lot drawn from history here, but they did

656
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Speaker 2: have a little bit of fun with it. And then

657
00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:37,133
Speaker 2: the sharks did looked like great whites, like they tried

658
00:33:37,133 --> 00:33:39,373
Speaker 2: to pick the nastiest shark. They possibly good, the most

659
00:33:39,453 --> 00:33:43,053
Speaker 2: terrifying shack they possibly good. But it is an absolutely

660
00:33:43,133 --> 00:33:45,493
Speaker 2: fantastic scene, and they've got cameras on all these different

661
00:33:45,533 --> 00:33:47,413
Speaker 2: sort of parts of these boats as they're colliding into

662
00:33:47,453 --> 00:33:51,973
Speaker 2: each other, and it really is just fantastic fun. So definitely,

663
00:33:52,053 --> 00:33:58,173
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, we're seeing at the cinema. I'm quite

664
00:33:58,293 --> 00:34:01,853
Speaker 2: interested though, And what Estella's going to think about Coldplay?

665
00:34:02,733 --> 00:34:04,933
Speaker 2: I think you can't go to a bad Coldplay concert.

666
00:34:05,013 --> 00:34:07,053
Speaker 2: They are so good at what they do, so professional,

667
00:34:07,093 --> 00:34:09,173
Speaker 2: it's such an amazing show. Even if you're not a fan.

668
00:34:09,253 --> 00:34:11,693
Speaker 2: I think it's hard to leave without enjoying it. But

669
00:34:11,853 --> 00:34:14,853
Speaker 2: you know, and Chris is a seasoned concert goer, and

670
00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:16,973
Speaker 2: he just felt like they were going through the paces

671
00:34:17,013 --> 00:34:19,573
Speaker 2: and it was all ab schmultzy. So I'm very interested.

672
00:34:19,653 --> 00:34:22,093
Speaker 2: At the end of the hour, see how Estelle found it.

673
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Speaker 2: Lot you might have been this week. I've only heard

674
00:34:24,213 --> 00:34:26,493
Speaker 2: great things. Feel free to let me know what you

675
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Speaker 2: thought about it. You can text on ninety two ninety

676
00:34:29,093 --> 00:34:32,893
Speaker 2: two somebody text to ask what was the name of

677
00:34:33,173 --> 00:34:36,573
Speaker 2: the books that Kevin was? When I was talking to Kevin,

678
00:34:36,613 --> 00:34:39,893
Speaker 2: we were talking about Stephen frye. Stephen Fry has actually

679
00:34:39,973 --> 00:34:43,973
Speaker 2: written quite a few books, and he's written memoirs and novels.

680
00:34:44,013 --> 00:34:47,893
Speaker 2: But the books that I were talking about was Mythos

681
00:34:49,013 --> 00:34:55,173
Speaker 2: and Troy and Heroes I think was another one. So

682
00:34:55,293 --> 00:34:57,133
Speaker 2: these are sort of a collection of myths that he

683
00:34:57,333 --> 00:35:01,493
Speaker 2: retells and I don't know. I teenagers were really interested

684
00:35:01,533 --> 00:35:03,413
Speaker 2: in classics, so they were fantastic for them, and then

685
00:35:03,413 --> 00:35:05,613
Speaker 2: I opened them when actual things these are really great,

686
00:35:05,973 --> 00:35:07,773
Speaker 2: So there's a real raft on them. If you if

687
00:35:07,813 --> 00:35:11,453
Speaker 2: you just google Stephen fry books, that will all come

688
00:35:11,573 --> 00:35:16,133
Speaker 2: up there and I mentioned the Queenstown Marathon and John

689
00:35:16,173 --> 00:35:19,013
Speaker 2: got in touch to say it's the Tartanaki Coastal five

690
00:35:19,133 --> 00:35:22,413
Speaker 2: this weekend too. Half marathon kicked off at six fifteen.

691
00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:25,813
Speaker 2: He got a personal best time and great weather. It's

692
00:35:25,973 --> 00:35:28,133
Speaker 2: well done, John, good. Great to hear all all these

693
00:35:28,173 --> 00:35:33,133
Speaker 2: people out and about running around the countryside at the moment. Okay,

694
00:35:33,653 --> 00:35:36,053
Speaker 2: Andy Allie is with us next.

695
00:35:36,293 --> 00:35:36,693
Speaker 5: You'll know.

696
00:35:36,893 --> 00:35:39,733
Speaker 2: Andy is a former All Black and Crusader. He's also

697
00:35:39,773 --> 00:35:42,573
Speaker 2: a landscape designer who's released a book called keb Backyard.

698
00:35:42,733 --> 00:35:45,493
Speaker 2: And now he is a TV presenter and actually he's

699
00:35:45,493 --> 00:35:47,773
Speaker 2: a really good TV presenter. He brings a lot of

700
00:35:48,413 --> 00:35:51,293
Speaker 2: energy and seems genuinely interested.

701
00:35:50,933 --> 00:35:51,773
Speaker 12: In what he is doing.

702
00:35:51,893 --> 00:35:55,053
Speaker 2: He has taken on the role of hosting the TV

703
00:35:55,173 --> 00:35:59,933
Speaker 2: show Moving Houses, which is a strangely compelling show, isn't it.

704
00:36:00,093 --> 00:36:00,853
Speaker 12: Have you watched it?

705
00:36:01,893 --> 00:36:04,213
Speaker 2: You'd think on paper, you know, and we're just going

706
00:36:04,253 --> 00:36:07,093
Speaker 2: to move homes around the country. Doesn't sound hugely interesting,

707
00:36:07,173 --> 00:36:10,173
Speaker 2: but it is. It's quite a thrilling show. Anyway. He's

708
00:36:10,213 --> 00:36:12,933
Speaker 2: a natural at this gig. But I'm very keen to

709
00:36:13,053 --> 00:36:16,213
Speaker 2: know whether he would actually ever move a house from

710
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Speaker 2: what he has seen from shooting this series. We're going

711
00:36:19,173 --> 00:36:20,973
Speaker 2: to find out next when he joins us here on

712
00:36:21,053 --> 00:36:24,653
Speaker 2: Saturday morning. Andy Alice is with us after the News,

713
00:36:25,173 --> 00:36:29,173
Speaker 2: and we have got some new music from Sam Fender.

714
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Speaker 2: This is his first new tune in two years. It's

715
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Speaker 2: called people Watching. He's announced a brand new album of

716
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Speaker 2: the same name. His last album, seventeen Going Under, was

717
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Speaker 2: named the greatest album in the world by n ME.

718
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Speaker 2: So we're going to finish out with a little bit

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Speaker 2: of Sam Fender back shortly.

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Speaker 18: To the rail Bird of Remembered Gatty Way to Miles

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Speaker 20: Some escape.

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Speaker 1: As it all, giving you the inside scoop on All

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Speaker 1: you need to Know. Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudgin in

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Speaker 9: Good. Have you with us?

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Speaker 2: This is Saturday Mornings on News Talks EB. I'm Francisco

731
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Speaker 2: bud Can filling in for Jacktame with you until midday.

732
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Speaker 2: Popular relocation series Moving Houses has returned for its third season.

733
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Speaker 2: It's one of those TV programs that shouldn't be anywhere

734
00:39:56,533 --> 00:39:58,733
Speaker 2: near as good as it is. It is a show

735
00:39:58,893 --> 00:40:01,893
Speaker 2: about big houses on the back of big trucks, moving

736
00:40:02,373 --> 00:40:06,893
Speaker 2: very slowly, but somehow Moving Houses captures all the elements

737
00:40:06,933 --> 00:40:11,333
Speaker 2: you'd want in gripping TV, dangerous spence, risk and reward

738
00:40:11,813 --> 00:40:14,093
Speaker 2: and taking over hosting duties is former All Black turn

739
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Speaker 2: landscaper Andy Allis. Andy has had a colorful rugby career.

740
00:40:17,653 --> 00:40:19,893
Speaker 2: He's play one hundred and fifty eight appearances for the Crusaders,

741
00:40:19,933 --> 00:40:22,653
Speaker 2: played twenty eight tests for the Boys in Black, won

742
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Speaker 2: the Rugby World Cup in twenty eleven, and has spent

743
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Speaker 2: time in Japan and other places. And now he is

744
00:40:28,573 --> 00:40:31,493
Speaker 2: on the Telly and Andy Allis joins us. Now, good morning,

745
00:40:32,053 --> 00:40:34,893
Speaker 2: good morning, Thanks having me on. What do you love

746
00:40:35,133 --> 00:40:37,973
Speaker 2: about this show Moving Houses? What did you enjoy the

747
00:40:38,173 --> 00:40:41,173
Speaker 2: most as you watch these homes come together? Literally?

748
00:40:43,093 --> 00:40:45,173
Speaker 8: Honestly, when I reflect back on some of the moves

749
00:40:45,253 --> 00:40:47,533
Speaker 8: we did it it was always kind of the people.

750
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Speaker 8: It was the truck drivers who are amazing. Bloke said,

751
00:40:53,013 --> 00:40:56,133
Speaker 8: they're incredibly clever. You know this kind of number eight.

752
00:40:56,173 --> 00:40:59,253
Speaker 8: Why I'm mentally, nothing's ever a problem. They can always

753
00:40:59,293 --> 00:41:01,693
Speaker 8: get a house and to a certain place. It's amazing.

754
00:41:02,253 --> 00:41:04,693
Speaker 8: But also the people that were brave enough to kind

755
00:41:04,733 --> 00:41:07,773
Speaker 8: of to do it, oh you know, you know, put

756
00:41:08,253 --> 00:41:09,813
Speaker 8: their house on the back of a truck and and

757
00:41:10,333 --> 00:41:12,933
Speaker 8: oft and move it into pretty remote locations. Their stories

758
00:41:12,973 --> 00:41:15,733
Speaker 8: are actually really fascinating as well. So yeah, I really

759
00:41:15,853 --> 00:41:18,253
Speaker 8: enjoyed the meeting. All the people that were involved in it,

760
00:41:18,373 --> 00:41:22,333
Speaker 8: and I mean, obviously they moved themselves are pretty pretty dramatic.

761
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Speaker 12: At times as well.

762
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Speaker 2: Would you move the house?

763
00:41:26,133 --> 00:41:27,653
Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, no no.

764
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Speaker 8: After seeing this, it's it's it's an amazing way to

765
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Speaker 8: do it, you know, especially if you're trying to get

766
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Speaker 8: a place into somewhere really sort of remote.

767
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Speaker 9: You know.

768
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know, I've I kind of I really

769
00:41:40,013 --> 00:41:43,053
Speaker 8: loved the idea of a giving one hundred year old villa,

770
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Speaker 8: you know, another another hundred years if you will, you know,

771
00:41:46,933 --> 00:41:49,013
Speaker 8: because a lot of them are getting moved, moved away

772
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Speaker 8: from sites where the development taking place, and you know,

773
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Speaker 8: you can't build some of these beautiful old places that

774
00:41:55,133 --> 00:41:57,333
Speaker 8: are full of old made of hard wood and you know,

775
00:41:57,453 --> 00:41:58,613
Speaker 8: beautiful features, and so.

776
00:42:00,253 --> 00:42:02,093
Speaker 12: There's a little love loving kid that still needs.

777
00:42:01,973 --> 00:42:03,173
Speaker 8: To go into them to get them back to their

778
00:42:03,253 --> 00:42:06,213
Speaker 8: former glory, but some of the people put in a

779
00:42:06,613 --> 00:42:08,453
Speaker 8: shift and they just came up amazing.

780
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Speaker 2: Andy, how incredible are these truck drivers and the trucks.

781
00:42:12,093 --> 00:42:13,813
Speaker 2: I mean, did you have any idea about how these

782
00:42:13,853 --> 00:42:16,453
Speaker 2: trucks had hydraulic plates that could leave their houses around

783
00:42:16,493 --> 00:42:17,373
Speaker 2: tricky bits and things.

784
00:42:18,413 --> 00:42:21,093
Speaker 8: Not really, I'd watched a bit of the previous season,

785
00:42:21,253 --> 00:42:25,973
Speaker 8: you know, but when you actually experience it in real life,

786
00:42:26,013 --> 00:42:28,093
Speaker 8: I suppose it's quite mind blowing.

787
00:42:28,173 --> 00:42:31,053
Speaker 12: And all the technology is actually New Zealand tech. The

788
00:42:31,133 --> 00:42:34,653
Speaker 12: trailers are built in Hamilton, and these things.

789
00:42:36,013 --> 00:42:37,973
Speaker 8: Honestly, we a lot of the time we're loading up

790
00:42:37,973 --> 00:42:39,613
Speaker 8: at ten o'clock at night and then we're just jumping

791
00:42:39,653 --> 00:42:41,293
Speaker 8: the truck and we were into it for ten or

792
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Speaker 8: twelve hours, you know. And the place is that these

793
00:42:44,053 --> 00:42:46,133
Speaker 8: these houses can get to in these trucks and trailers

794
00:42:46,213 --> 00:42:48,453
Speaker 8: can get to is just phenomenal. You know, we're lifting

795
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Speaker 8: up over cars and busy streets, you know, at two

796
00:42:52,093 --> 00:42:53,813
Speaker 8: o'clock in the morning, or you know, we're having to

797
00:42:54,493 --> 00:42:57,573
Speaker 8: drop down, you know, to get under power lines and

798
00:42:58,933 --> 00:43:01,853
Speaker 8: move around here corners. And the amazing thing is each

799
00:43:01,893 --> 00:43:03,893
Speaker 8: of these wheels you like you said that Xles and

800
00:43:03,933 --> 00:43:06,893
Speaker 8: the wheels on the trailers move individually, so you can

801
00:43:07,053 --> 00:43:09,613
Speaker 8: really can swing these things around on ninety degrees. So

802
00:43:10,173 --> 00:43:12,693
Speaker 8: all of that stuff was pretty crazy to sort of

803
00:43:13,413 --> 00:43:15,133
Speaker 8: watch and be part of. And the beauty is like

804
00:43:15,533 --> 00:43:17,613
Speaker 8: we didn't have to set up any drama. There was

805
00:43:17,693 --> 00:43:20,533
Speaker 8: no Jeopardy set up, Like literally, you jump in these

806
00:43:20,573 --> 00:43:23,293
Speaker 8: things and you drive for twelve hours, like that's going

807
00:43:23,373 --> 00:43:25,813
Speaker 8: to happen, you know, I'm going to be honest.

808
00:43:26,813 --> 00:43:29,493
Speaker 2: You could sort of see the fear at times in

809
00:43:29,613 --> 00:43:32,413
Speaker 2: your face, especially when you kind of keep suggesting that

810
00:43:32,533 --> 00:43:34,293
Speaker 2: the truck was sort of very close to the edge

811
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Speaker 2: of a road on the passenger side of which you

812
00:43:36,533 --> 00:43:39,053
Speaker 2: were on. I noticed that it were very it was

813
00:43:39,093 --> 00:43:40,893
Speaker 2: almost sort of a bit of a nervous reaction to

814
00:43:40,973 --> 00:43:42,973
Speaker 2: sort of remind the driver eater were very very close

815
00:43:43,013 --> 00:43:44,653
Speaker 2: to the interia, very close to the d here. There

816
00:43:44,653 --> 00:43:46,133
Speaker 2: was a quite a bit of that throughout the series.

817
00:43:46,653 --> 00:43:48,253
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I tell you what I mean that the

818
00:43:48,773 --> 00:43:52,533
Speaker 8: show on last Sunday seven thirty TV one.

819
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Speaker 12: Do you like that little plug?

820
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Speaker 9: Ye?

821
00:43:53,973 --> 00:43:55,173
Speaker 2: Well done, you're learning, you're learning.

822
00:43:55,573 --> 00:43:58,053
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was through the Nevist Valley, you know, and

823
00:43:58,093 --> 00:44:00,213
Speaker 8: that's the highest public road in New Zealand and a

824
00:44:00,293 --> 00:44:03,733
Speaker 8: house never been transported through there. So this is a

825
00:44:03,773 --> 00:44:06,973
Speaker 8: gravel road and there were sheer cliff drop offs hundreds

826
00:44:07,013 --> 00:44:09,853
Speaker 8: of meters and these truck drivers, you know, they sort

827
00:44:09,853 --> 00:44:12,013
Speaker 8: of say nothing really bothers them. They strike the shoulders

828
00:44:12,013 --> 00:44:13,533
Speaker 8: and get on with it. But it's not til you're

829
00:44:13,533 --> 00:44:16,373
Speaker 8: sitting in the passengers state and you're looking down and

830
00:44:16,453 --> 00:44:19,693
Speaker 8: it's literally two centimeters the tires, two centimes from the

831
00:44:19,733 --> 00:44:22,373
Speaker 8: cliff that you sort of start to worry a little bit.

832
00:44:23,293 --> 00:44:26,813
Speaker 8: And actually, this this Sunday, we do a move. I'm

833
00:44:26,813 --> 00:44:28,653
Speaker 8: not sure how much I'm allowed to give away, but

834
00:44:29,893 --> 00:44:31,973
Speaker 8: from Blenham to Farewell splits, so we've got to go

835
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Speaker 8: up and over parker Get Hill.

836
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, okay, and.

837
00:44:37,373 --> 00:44:38,893
Speaker 12: What a big house that gets cut in half.

838
00:44:38,933 --> 00:44:42,213
Speaker 8: And so it's the same sort of thing, but you know,

839
00:44:42,253 --> 00:44:43,933
Speaker 8: this one's at night, so it's probably a little bit

840
00:44:43,973 --> 00:44:46,693
Speaker 8: better because although you know, there's hundreds of meters have dropped.

841
00:44:47,053 --> 00:44:47,213
Speaker 16: Right.

842
00:44:50,733 --> 00:44:51,733
Speaker 12: So here's the thing.

843
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Speaker 2: It is at times really stressful and as you say,

844
00:44:54,853 --> 00:44:58,133
Speaker 2: these these drivers are just so professional and calm, but

845
00:44:59,453 --> 00:45:01,893
Speaker 2: at times in the cab you're kind of encouraging them

846
00:45:01,933 --> 00:45:03,933
Speaker 2: along or you're sort of just mentioning how close you

847
00:45:03,973 --> 00:45:06,213
Speaker 2: are to the edge. Were there times th shooting this

848
00:45:06,373 --> 00:45:07,693
Speaker 2: areas were you thought eachho, I just need to be

849
00:45:07,773 --> 00:45:10,293
Speaker 2: quiet here, I just need to be quiet. They don't

850
00:45:10,293 --> 00:45:11,773
Speaker 2: need to hear from me. This is quite stressful.

851
00:45:12,133 --> 00:45:14,013
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think I probably annoyed the truck

852
00:45:14,053 --> 00:45:16,773
Speaker 8: drive drivers a little bit through the moves, you know,

853
00:45:17,093 --> 00:45:20,253
Speaker 8: sitting in a cab with me writing shotguns for twelve hours.

854
00:45:20,253 --> 00:45:22,773
Speaker 8: I don't know if that's that's all that easy. And

855
00:45:22,853 --> 00:45:25,773
Speaker 8: I'm a I'm a mouthy halfback, but did you know

856
00:45:25,813 --> 00:45:27,933
Speaker 8: I think the beauty is I actually got on so

857
00:45:28,093 --> 00:45:29,853
Speaker 8: well with all of them. You know, we we spend

858
00:45:29,893 --> 00:45:33,133
Speaker 8: most of the trip talking about the truck driver's ex post,

859
00:45:33,533 --> 00:45:37,533
Speaker 8: you know, footy career or mine, so we would get

860
00:45:37,573 --> 00:45:39,613
Speaker 8: on pretty well. So if I did start to chat

861
00:45:39,653 --> 00:45:41,853
Speaker 8: too much and things started to get pretty tight, they'd

862
00:45:41,893 --> 00:45:43,773
Speaker 8: pretty quickly just told me to put a lot on it,

863
00:45:43,893 --> 00:45:45,893
Speaker 8: just for a little bit, andy and until we get

864
00:45:45,893 --> 00:45:47,813
Speaker 8: around this next But you know, but because we we

865
00:45:48,453 --> 00:45:51,093
Speaker 8: hit power lines that snapped and stuff, so that can

866
00:45:51,173 --> 00:45:53,093
Speaker 8: be it can be pretty dangerous. So if I'm there

867
00:45:53,173 --> 00:45:56,133
Speaker 8: asking them, you know, hey, yeah, what do we do now?

868
00:45:56,253 --> 00:45:57,933
Speaker 8: You know, track drivers like, we'll just stand in the

869
00:45:57,973 --> 00:46:00,213
Speaker 8: cab and don't touch anything because you could get elettercuted.

870
00:46:00,253 --> 00:46:02,653
Speaker 8: You know, it's sort of there are times I just

871
00:46:02,693 --> 00:46:04,293
Speaker 8: had probably had to keep my mouth shut and just

872
00:46:04,333 --> 00:46:05,133
Speaker 8: listen to what they said.

873
00:46:05,853 --> 00:46:08,613
Speaker 2: How many signs and trees were chainsawed down in the.

874
00:46:08,693 --> 00:46:15,253
Speaker 8: Series Lost count Lost cant But it is amazing because

875
00:46:15,253 --> 00:46:17,133
Speaker 8: it's actually really unique to New Zealand.

876
00:46:17,213 --> 00:46:18,813
Speaker 12: So we don't realize there's a lot of.

877
00:46:20,893 --> 00:46:26,133
Speaker 8: Light post you lights, or all the signs around town

878
00:46:26,133 --> 00:46:27,853
Speaker 8: and stuff. They actually all pop up out of the

879
00:46:27,893 --> 00:46:30,253
Speaker 8: ground and can lie down so so houses can get

880
00:46:30,293 --> 00:46:32,013
Speaker 8: through and then they go on obviously put them back

881
00:46:32,013 --> 00:46:36,333
Speaker 8: into place, but you can unscrew all sorts of things.

882
00:46:36,733 --> 00:46:39,813
Speaker 8: And our roads are kind of made for moving, which

883
00:46:40,013 --> 00:46:41,893
Speaker 8: which is pretty cool, pretty unique as well.

884
00:46:41,893 --> 00:46:44,573
Speaker 2: I reckon the things you learn on a TV show, Andy,

885
00:46:45,293 --> 00:46:47,933
Speaker 2: what percentage of the houses would be sort of damaged

886
00:46:48,053 --> 00:46:50,453
Speaker 2: on arrival? Are we talking about a few scratches or

887
00:46:50,493 --> 00:46:52,053
Speaker 2: does occasionally a house lose a corner?

888
00:46:53,533 --> 00:46:53,653
Speaker 14: Oh?

889
00:46:53,773 --> 00:46:58,013
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, no, most of them. Most of them lose

890
00:46:58,133 --> 00:47:02,893
Speaker 8: fear of gathering. There can be a bit scratched, I

891
00:47:02,933 --> 00:47:04,973
Speaker 8: mean to be honest, A lot of the time. It's

892
00:47:05,013 --> 00:47:07,253
Speaker 8: quite amazing. When they do arrival, it actually looks, it

893
00:47:07,293 --> 00:47:08,093
Speaker 8: looks really good.

894
00:47:08,973 --> 00:47:09,693
Speaker 12: We had one.

895
00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:15,053
Speaker 8: Where a camp van actually crashes to the bottom of

896
00:47:15,613 --> 00:47:17,493
Speaker 8: a house that we're moving, so that sort of makes

897
00:47:17,533 --> 00:47:19,293
Speaker 8: a bit of a job of that. We had a

898
00:47:19,333 --> 00:47:21,653
Speaker 8: few cliffs and trees do a good job on it

899
00:47:21,693 --> 00:47:25,053
Speaker 8: as well. So most of them have got a few

900
00:47:25,253 --> 00:47:26,853
Speaker 8: a few little knicks and things out of them. But

901
00:47:27,813 --> 00:47:30,533
Speaker 8: it's surprising that there's nothing that can't sort of quickly

902
00:47:30,573 --> 00:47:32,653
Speaker 8: be fixed or put back into shape.

903
00:47:32,693 --> 00:47:32,813
Speaker 1: You know.

904
00:47:33,013 --> 00:47:37,653
Speaker 8: Again, these these these drivers and movers are bloody clever.

905
00:47:37,773 --> 00:47:38,133
Speaker 12: No, they are.

906
00:47:38,173 --> 00:47:41,093
Speaker 2: They're amazing, And I think you'd accept if it's an

907
00:47:41,093 --> 00:47:42,493
Speaker 2: old house, you're gonna have to do some work on

908
00:47:42,533 --> 00:47:44,733
Speaker 2: it when you get to its final resting spot. Then

909
00:47:44,813 --> 00:47:46,613
Speaker 2: then a little bit of damage along the way is fine.

910
00:47:46,653 --> 00:47:50,933
Speaker 2: But on Sunday you were transporting a brand new, expensive

911
00:47:51,173 --> 00:47:56,293
Speaker 2: home and everything already installed. Did that add extra stress

912
00:47:56,333 --> 00:47:56,853
Speaker 2: to that move?

913
00:47:57,253 --> 00:47:58,933
Speaker 12: Yeah? I think it does. Yeah, that's that's a that's

914
00:47:58,933 --> 00:47:59,373
Speaker 12: a good point.

915
00:47:59,453 --> 00:48:02,133
Speaker 8: So, I mean, we've moved a couple of the pre

916
00:48:02,253 --> 00:48:04,133
Speaker 8: built you know that get built on a yard and

917
00:48:04,653 --> 00:48:07,533
Speaker 8: shipped and just really remote locations where you couldn't get

918
00:48:07,533 --> 00:48:09,813
Speaker 8: builders and Subby's sort of sort of into so it

919
00:48:09,893 --> 00:48:11,653
Speaker 8: kind of it works really well in that space as well.

920
00:48:11,733 --> 00:48:13,613
Speaker 8: And yeah, I feel like there probably is a little

921
00:48:13,613 --> 00:48:16,453
Speaker 8: bit of extra pressure when it's all brand new and

922
00:48:16,533 --> 00:48:20,493
Speaker 8: you're trying to sort of sneak you know, past branches

923
00:48:20,533 --> 00:48:22,213
Speaker 8: that are hanging out, or you know, there's there's a

924
00:48:22,293 --> 00:48:26,453
Speaker 8: lot of heazardous things that can you know, they can

925
00:48:26,493 --> 00:48:29,053
Speaker 8: put a few scratches on it. But I mean again,

926
00:48:29,213 --> 00:48:31,253
Speaker 8: these drivers, when you know, when it comes to the

927
00:48:31,293 --> 00:48:33,613
Speaker 8: new houses, I think we're the ones that are built

928
00:48:33,613 --> 00:48:35,933
Speaker 8: in the yards. They probably take even more care to

929
00:48:36,013 --> 00:48:36,493
Speaker 8: them as well.

930
00:48:37,013 --> 00:48:39,293
Speaker 2: Did you manage to stay awake on these overnight journeys

931
00:48:39,293 --> 00:48:40,413
Speaker 2: better than Clark Gayford did?

932
00:48:40,973 --> 00:48:44,413
Speaker 8: I didn't sleep once it was it wasn't easy. There

933
00:48:44,453 --> 00:48:48,293
Speaker 8: were times where you know, I had had to dig

934
00:48:48,373 --> 00:48:51,973
Speaker 8: pretty have an extra red bull. But now I managed

935
00:48:52,013 --> 00:48:54,253
Speaker 8: to hang in there and stay awake. So that's something

936
00:48:54,293 --> 00:48:56,013
Speaker 8: I was pretty proud. Parke was great, Like I gave

937
00:48:56,093 --> 00:48:58,613
Speaker 8: him a call before the show started and just asked

938
00:48:58,653 --> 00:49:01,213
Speaker 8: them for some advice, and yeah, he pretty much said

939
00:49:01,253 --> 00:49:02,253
Speaker 8: to me, mate, I.

940
00:49:02,293 --> 00:49:05,893
Speaker 12: Hope you I hope you like trucks, said, yeah, of

941
00:49:05,973 --> 00:49:07,013
Speaker 12: course that. Yeah, I'm a bloke.

942
00:49:07,093 --> 00:49:09,453
Speaker 8: I love trucks, you know, com beauty, but no he

943
00:49:09,493 --> 00:49:12,333
Speaker 8: would naraw know what he really means. You have to

944
00:49:12,573 --> 00:49:15,293
Speaker 8: love trucks, I can. You know, there's a lot of

945
00:49:15,373 --> 00:49:17,653
Speaker 8: times that in the cave of the track.

946
00:49:18,653 --> 00:49:22,133
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy you know, presenting a TV show something

947
00:49:22,213 --> 00:49:22,693
Speaker 2: new for you?

948
00:49:23,733 --> 00:49:23,933
Speaker 9: Yeah?

949
00:49:23,933 --> 00:49:24,813
Speaker 12: I did, Yeah, I loved it.

950
00:49:25,053 --> 00:49:28,933
Speaker 8: It was was pretty challenging though, Like early on, you know,

951
00:49:28,973 --> 00:49:30,453
Speaker 8: I've done a little bit of stuff, you know, with

952
00:49:30,653 --> 00:49:32,693
Speaker 8: with some of the Rugby stuff on that and around presenting,

953
00:49:33,573 --> 00:49:35,733
Speaker 8: but there was a little bit more relaxed and off

954
00:49:35,813 --> 00:49:38,973
Speaker 8: the cuffs this. You know, I had to I had

955
00:49:39,013 --> 00:49:40,853
Speaker 8: to work pretty hard to I had to learn lines

956
00:49:40,893 --> 00:49:44,573
Speaker 8: and scripts and you know, often there was you know,

957
00:49:44,653 --> 00:49:46,813
Speaker 8: a couple of cameras and you know, there's a director

958
00:49:46,893 --> 00:49:50,533
Speaker 8: and a producer and you know soundy all in behind

959
00:49:51,133 --> 00:49:52,813
Speaker 8: the screen that you can't see when you're watching the TV.

960
00:49:52,893 --> 00:49:55,773
Speaker 8: And it can be I know, this takes a little

961
00:49:55,813 --> 00:49:57,973
Speaker 8: bit of time to get used to that. But you

962
00:49:58,053 --> 00:50:00,333
Speaker 8: know that everyone of the crew was so great.

963
00:50:00,373 --> 00:50:00,733
Speaker 13: There was so.

964
00:50:02,493 --> 00:50:04,973
Speaker 8: Patient with me, and you know, and I worked really

965
00:50:05,013 --> 00:50:07,173
Speaker 8: hard and I learned quickly I needed to do and

966
00:50:08,053 --> 00:50:12,093
Speaker 8: you know, hopefully, hopefully you see that and the shot itself.

967
00:50:12,133 --> 00:50:13,733
Speaker 8: You know, by the end of it, I felt really

968
00:50:14,653 --> 00:50:17,533
Speaker 8: a lot more natural, and I really enjoyed being able

969
00:50:17,573 --> 00:50:19,693
Speaker 8: to tell people's stories, you know, So it was it

970
00:50:19,813 --> 00:50:20,213
Speaker 8: was an honor.

971
00:50:21,013 --> 00:50:23,573
Speaker 2: It's harder to walk and talk than people think, isn't

972
00:50:23,573 --> 00:50:24,573
Speaker 2: it right?

973
00:50:24,653 --> 00:50:27,533
Speaker 8: And yeah, exactly, and you use your hands and gesture

974
00:50:27,693 --> 00:50:30,333
Speaker 8: things and and and you know, look down a camera

975
00:50:30,493 --> 00:50:33,333
Speaker 8: and you know, say things like you really really mean

976
00:50:33,413 --> 00:50:35,333
Speaker 8: them too. It's important part of it too. You've got

977
00:50:35,413 --> 00:50:38,053
Speaker 8: to really believe what you're saying. So there's a lot

978
00:50:38,093 --> 00:50:38,773
Speaker 8: of elements to it.

979
00:50:39,573 --> 00:50:41,413
Speaker 2: What were some of the best tips that you were given?

980
00:50:44,973 --> 00:50:46,773
Speaker 8: Yeah, sort of sort of learned the script, you know,

981
00:50:46,893 --> 00:50:48,493
Speaker 8: learn what I want to say, but then kind of

982
00:50:48,813 --> 00:50:51,693
Speaker 8: kind of make it mine, you know, like, really believe

983
00:50:51,733 --> 00:50:53,053
Speaker 8: in it and if you have changed the little bits,

984
00:50:53,093 --> 00:50:55,853
Speaker 8: and it can And I think once I got to

985
00:50:55,933 --> 00:50:59,213
Speaker 8: meet both the truck drivers and the and the people that,

986
00:50:59,413 --> 00:51:01,133
Speaker 8: you know, the families or couples that were doing it,

987
00:51:01,333 --> 00:51:03,253
Speaker 8: then I really bought into what they're saying and I

988
00:51:03,333 --> 00:51:06,333
Speaker 8: was kind of a little bit more emotionally attached as well,

989
00:51:06,613 --> 00:51:08,813
Speaker 8: you know, and so that helped me deliver you know

990
00:51:08,933 --> 00:51:11,493
Speaker 8: that I really was stoked for a young family that

991
00:51:11,533 --> 00:51:12,973
Speaker 8: are moving house, and.

992
00:51:13,013 --> 00:51:14,773
Speaker 2: That absolutely came across. I think you did a really

993
00:51:14,813 --> 00:51:17,093
Speaker 2: really good job. I think you have great TV energy,

994
00:51:17,333 --> 00:51:19,573
Speaker 2: and you were yourself, but you could see that connection.

995
00:51:19,693 --> 00:51:21,973
Speaker 2: You were genuinely interested in what was going on and

996
00:51:22,373 --> 00:51:27,853
Speaker 2: wonderfully terrified at times. So I appreciate you probably don't

997
00:51:27,853 --> 00:51:28,893
Speaker 2: want a critique, but there it is.

998
00:51:29,413 --> 00:51:31,253
Speaker 12: Oh thanks, So that's good. I'll take it.

999
00:51:31,533 --> 00:51:34,293
Speaker 2: It can be really difficult to go from being a

1000
00:51:34,373 --> 00:51:37,013
Speaker 2: professional sports person to finding another career, but it looks

1001
00:51:37,053 --> 00:51:39,173
Speaker 2: like it's actually been quite easy for you. Was that

1002
00:51:39,253 --> 00:51:41,293
Speaker 2: because you kind of always knew you were interested in

1003
00:51:41,373 --> 00:51:43,893
Speaker 2: landscape design or you know, and had other things on

1004
00:51:43,973 --> 00:51:44,133
Speaker 2: the go.

1005
00:51:45,093 --> 00:51:47,693
Speaker 8: Oh no, I'm still pretty still pretty challenging coming out

1006
00:51:47,733 --> 00:51:50,693
Speaker 8: of you know, professional sport. You know, I just I've

1007
00:51:50,693 --> 00:51:52,613
Speaker 8: got some really good advice from some of the some

1008
00:51:52,733 --> 00:51:54,613
Speaker 8: of the old boys that had played, just just to

1009
00:51:54,693 --> 00:51:57,973
Speaker 8: take my time to, you know, try and put some

1010
00:51:58,053 --> 00:52:00,413
Speaker 8: money aside and give myself six months to find out

1011
00:52:00,453 --> 00:52:01,853
Speaker 8: what I really wanted to do next, get a lot

1012
00:52:01,853 --> 00:52:04,453
Speaker 8: of coffees and meeting with people and stuff, and you know,

1013
00:52:04,493 --> 00:52:07,493
Speaker 8: I was really open to new opportunities and challenges, and

1014
00:52:08,093 --> 00:52:09,973
Speaker 8: this was one of those that sort of came up

1015
00:52:10,013 --> 00:52:11,853
Speaker 8: and kind of said yes to it, and you know,

1016
00:52:11,933 --> 00:52:15,533
Speaker 8: here I am. But you know it's still yeah, it's

1017
00:52:15,573 --> 00:52:17,773
Speaker 8: a funny time for sure, when you when you finish

1018
00:52:17,853 --> 00:52:19,853
Speaker 8: up playing rugby and and sort of moving on to

1019
00:52:19,933 --> 00:52:21,893
Speaker 8: the next the next career. You know, a lot of

1020
00:52:21,933 --> 00:52:23,413
Speaker 8: your friends that you went to school with have all

1021
00:52:23,813 --> 00:52:26,613
Speaker 8: worked their way up in different you know, management roles

1022
00:52:26,733 --> 00:52:30,133
Speaker 8: or you know, if their trade is often running their

1023
00:52:30,173 --> 00:52:32,253
Speaker 8: own jobs and things like that. You know, we're sort

1024
00:52:32,293 --> 00:52:35,333
Speaker 8: of starting afresh, so I suppose, like me, starting a

1025
00:52:35,373 --> 00:52:36,733
Speaker 8: fresh in this kind of presenting role.

1026
00:52:37,013 --> 00:52:39,093
Speaker 2: But you know, they haven't all played for the All Blacks,

1027
00:52:39,133 --> 00:52:41,013
Speaker 2: so you know, well we all do different things at

1028
00:52:41,053 --> 00:52:44,173
Speaker 2: different times. That's all totally fine. Who is going to

1029
00:52:44,213 --> 00:52:45,733
Speaker 2: win the rugby tomorrow morning? Do you think.

1030
00:52:47,293 --> 00:52:47,813
Speaker 12: All Blacks?

1031
00:52:48,413 --> 00:52:48,573
Speaker 4: Right?

1032
00:52:48,853 --> 00:52:49,053
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1033
00:52:49,573 --> 00:52:54,093
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, no, no, I mean, you know, watching both

1034
00:52:54,333 --> 00:52:57,693
Speaker 8: England and Ireland tests, I reckon the All Blacks will

1035
00:52:57,733 --> 00:53:00,813
Speaker 8: be a little bit probably disappointed in their actual performance.

1036
00:53:01,573 --> 00:53:03,493
Speaker 8: You know, they left a lot of points out, they

1037
00:53:03,613 --> 00:53:05,773
Speaker 8: created a lot of stuff. But the one thing you

1038
00:53:05,853 --> 00:53:08,373
Speaker 8: kind of take away from it as that real that

1039
00:53:08,493 --> 00:53:10,493
Speaker 8: real belief and you know, they won that tough game

1040
00:53:10,533 --> 00:53:14,053
Speaker 8: against England and they're pretty pretty good against Ireland tour.

1041
00:53:14,093 --> 00:53:16,533
Speaker 8: In that space, like it looks like that raise effector

1042
00:53:17,413 --> 00:53:18,853
Speaker 8: of you know, we're going.

1043
00:53:18,813 --> 00:53:19,493
Speaker 12: To win no matter what.

1044
00:53:19,933 --> 00:53:21,693
Speaker 8: It's kind of starting to think, and then I think

1045
00:53:21,733 --> 00:53:25,053
Speaker 8: that's that's the exciting thing. And when they actually start

1046
00:53:25,213 --> 00:53:28,133
Speaker 8: really you know, hitting their strips with with their rugby,

1047
00:53:28,213 --> 00:53:29,893
Speaker 8: you know, all the passes stick and anything like that,

1048
00:53:30,013 --> 00:53:33,693
Speaker 8: man that look out, So you know that that belief

1049
00:53:33,693 --> 00:53:35,013
Speaker 8: and I've heard that. I've heard them talking about in

1050
00:53:35,053 --> 00:53:36,933
Speaker 8: the camp, you know, and I've heard the coach talking

1051
00:53:36,973 --> 00:53:39,413
Speaker 8: about it. You know, great character show. There's some real

1052
00:53:39,453 --> 00:53:42,373
Speaker 8: belief in our group. Everyone's buying into what we're doing.

1053
00:53:42,893 --> 00:53:44,893
Speaker 8: It's an exciting time. That kind of language is always

1054
00:53:44,893 --> 00:53:47,093
Speaker 8: exciting as an All Black supporter because you know, you know,

1055
00:53:47,213 --> 00:53:48,293
Speaker 8: something pretty special coming.

1056
00:53:48,533 --> 00:53:50,933
Speaker 2: Do you watch games and misplaying? No?

1057
00:53:51,253 --> 00:53:51,853
Speaker 12: Absolutely not.

1058
00:53:52,853 --> 00:53:55,093
Speaker 8: I watched games and I see the big context and

1059
00:53:55,213 --> 00:53:59,733
Speaker 8: I squaw them on my chair sometimes. But non, I

1060
00:53:59,893 --> 00:54:03,133
Speaker 8: miss I missed the mate ship and all the you know,

1061
00:54:03,613 --> 00:54:06,773
Speaker 8: good mates. So I missed the competition and you know,

1062
00:54:06,853 --> 00:54:07,613
Speaker 8: on the big stage.

1063
00:54:08,493 --> 00:54:09,213
Speaker 12: I love that, but.

1064
00:54:11,493 --> 00:54:15,813
Speaker 2: It's enough for me, you know, you're watching from the couch.

1065
00:54:15,613 --> 00:54:19,773
Speaker 12: With having a coffee in the morning. It's so good rugby.

1066
00:54:19,853 --> 00:54:21,773
Speaker 2: He's given you so many opportunities though, and you've been

1067
00:54:21,773 --> 00:54:24,613
Speaker 2: able to travel with the things. Are your kids sporty.

1068
00:54:25,373 --> 00:54:26,413
Speaker 12: Yep, no, they love this sport.

1069
00:54:26,493 --> 00:54:28,933
Speaker 8: Yeah no, no, my daughter's into a netball and rowing

1070
00:54:29,013 --> 00:54:31,533
Speaker 8: and my son loves this rugby and cricket and touch

1071
00:54:31,573 --> 00:54:32,013
Speaker 8: and everything.

1072
00:54:32,093 --> 00:54:34,173
Speaker 12: Now we know we're sportty family.

1073
00:54:34,213 --> 00:54:34,533
Speaker 13: We love it.

1074
00:54:34,733 --> 00:54:37,093
Speaker 2: So how do you approach sport in their lives? Sort

1075
00:54:37,093 --> 00:54:39,453
Speaker 2: of encourage them or you know, but without sort of

1076
00:54:39,533 --> 00:54:41,373
Speaker 2: being overboard. What's sort of your approach?

1077
00:54:42,133 --> 00:54:45,453
Speaker 8: Oh no, what's their kids? It's all about just having fun,

1078
00:54:45,493 --> 00:54:48,293
Speaker 8: you know, get out there and love what they're doing.

1079
00:54:48,893 --> 00:54:51,533
Speaker 8: You know, sport's a great, great way to make, you know,

1080
00:54:51,653 --> 00:54:54,493
Speaker 8: really lifelong friends. And so that's sort of this and courage,

1081
00:54:54,493 --> 00:54:57,613
Speaker 8: you know, get they work hard, have fun, enjoy it, compete.

1082
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Speaker 12: I mean they're competed for little buggers anyways, you know. So,

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Speaker 12: but but yeah, that's what it's like.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, we're lucky to have traveled. You know, Spen

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00:55:05,613 --> 00:55:07,573
Speaker 8: lived in Japan and lived in New York and the

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00:55:07,653 --> 00:55:10,893
Speaker 8: States through through my rugby. So we've met some amazing people.

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Speaker 8: And I've got great mates that all you know, the

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00:55:12,973 --> 00:55:15,413
Speaker 8: lot uncles and aunties to all you know, to the

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Speaker 8: kids as well, which is which is pretty cool. So

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Speaker 8: they're always the one too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good to be back in christ each so yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean that's great.

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Speaker 12: I mean we're all our family here. The kids love it.

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Speaker 12: It's awesome and we love it as well. I do

1095
00:55:27,933 --> 00:55:30,053
Speaker 12: miss New York a little bit, just a little bit.

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Speaker 9: Oh A.

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Speaker 2: Really nice to talk to you, and congratulations on the

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Speaker 2: new gig. You do a really great job. I loved it.

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Speaker 2: As I said you at the beginning. I don't know

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Speaker 2: why this show. It's strangely compelling, this show, it works

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Speaker 2: really well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well I think it's really real, right, it's real,

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Speaker 8: and it's so unique to New Zealand, and you know,

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Speaker 8: you kind of get captured with the journey of these

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00:55:48,093 --> 00:55:50,333
Speaker 8: people and the truck drivers and what we do. It's

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Speaker 8: and I think the other thing, like the reveal at

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Speaker 8: the end is really fascinating to you know, what did

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Speaker 8: it come up like and how much did it cost them?

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Speaker 8: And yes, there's a lot of really nice elements to

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Speaker 8: moving as Steven thirty TV one.

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Speaker 2: Look he's doing my job for me now as well.

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Speaker 2: That was Andy Ellis moving houses a screen on TVNZ

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Speaker 2: one and you can actually also quetch it on TVNZ plus.

1114
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Speaker 2: Also coming up with this how to create a biodiverse

1115
00:56:14,733 --> 00:56:17,173
Speaker 2: area around your own backyard. We're going to look at AI,

1116
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Speaker 2: what's useful about it and not so useful about it?

1117
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Speaker 2: And rent vesting is it right for you? It is

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Speaker 2: twenty four past ten. You're with Newstalk zeb.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: Francesca Rudgin, Info, Jack tam and BE Pure Quality Supplements

1121
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Speaker 1: for essential Energy, News talks at B and.

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00:56:38,573 --> 00:56:40,613
Speaker 2: It is screen time and Tara Ward joins us. Now,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Tara, good morning. Hey tell me about In

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Speaker 2: Cold Water, the Shelter Bay mystery. This is screening on

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Speaker 2: Prime Video and it's a documentary series that has a

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Speaker 2: New Zealand connection.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: This is a new true crime documentary series with as

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Speaker 21: you say, a very strong New Zealand connection to it.

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Speaker 2: It's a three part series and it's about a.

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Speaker 21: Murder investigation that happened in Canada and twenty ten and

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Speaker 21: it involved a New Zealand man named Peter Beckett who

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Speaker 21: was a former Napier City councilor, and Peter was fishing

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Speaker 21: on a lake in the Rocky Mountains with his Canadian wife, Laura,

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Speaker 21: and Laura drowned in the lake. Peter says she fell

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Speaker 21: into the water, it was an accident. He tried to

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Speaker 21: save her and couldn't, but the police were suspicious, and

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Speaker 21: a year later they charged Peter with his wife's murder,

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Speaker 21: and Peter claims he's innocent. He's the only witness to

1140
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Speaker 21: his wife's death, and for the next decade he's involved

1141
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Speaker 21: in lengthy court trials and mistrials and appeals and what

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Speaker 21: he calls a huge.

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Speaker 2: Miscarriage of justice.

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Speaker 21: So it's a very mysterious case, involving all sorts of

1145
00:57:45,253 --> 00:57:48,773
Speaker 21: twists and turns and shocking the allegations on both sides

1146
00:57:48,933 --> 00:57:52,813
Speaker 21: of this story. But the documentary doesn't try to convince

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00:57:52,893 --> 00:57:54,773
Speaker 21: you one way or the other. It just lays out

1148
00:57:55,013 --> 00:57:57,733
Speaker 21: all the details, talks to a lot of people involved,

1149
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Speaker 21: from Laura's family, to the police, to forensic experts, to

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Speaker 21: Peter Beckett himself, and just leaves you to make your

1151
00:58:05,333 --> 00:58:08,013
Speaker 21: own conclusions as a miscarriage of justice or is it

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Speaker 21: as the Canadian police would argue a Clear Cup murder Case.

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Speaker 21: So if you are a true crime fan, this is

1154
00:58:14,213 --> 00:58:17,013
Speaker 21: one to watch. It's on Prime Video now, but it's

1155
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Speaker 21: also screening free to air on Sky Open from Monday night.

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Speaker 2: Oh fantastic.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 2: I had a look at the list of shows that

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00:58:24,813 --> 00:58:26,493
Speaker 2: you were going to talk about this week and I thought, oh,

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Speaker 2: Dave the Jackal. That looks good. So then I felt

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Speaker 2: out of duty to be properly prepared for the show.

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Speaker 2: I'd watch an episode. Five episodes later, I got back

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Speaker 2: to my life. I really enjoyed this. It's just look,

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Speaker 2: I love a crime thriller, and this one was just

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Speaker 2: really easy to sort of a mercyself in and enjoy.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I agree.

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Speaker 21: If you're looking for sort of an explosive, wonderfully tense,

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Speaker 21: as you say, very binge able, spy thriller, you won't

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Speaker 21: go wrong with Dave the Jackal. This is based on

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Speaker 21: the book by Frederick Forsyth and it stars Eddie Redmad

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Speaker 21: who plays the Jackal. He is an elite sniper. He's

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Speaker 21: a master of disguise, and he from city to city

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Speaker 21: as a paid assassin. And he's offered a job that

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Speaker 21: pays so well that he could stop doing this work.

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Speaker 12: Forever.

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Speaker 21: But at the same time, an six officer is on

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Speaker 21: his case. She's very good at her job, she's very persistent,

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Speaker 21: and they get caught up in this cat and mouse

1180
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Speaker 21: game across Europe. The jacker wants to get this last

1181
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Speaker 21: job done and the six Officer wants to find him

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Speaker 21: before he does, and it's a matter of how far

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00:59:30,613 --> 00:59:33,173
Speaker 21: will each of them go to succeed and how obsessed

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Speaker 21: will they get with the other.

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Speaker 10: So it's a real.

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Speaker 2: Classic spy thriller.

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Speaker 21: You know, the story is from the nineteen seventies, but

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Speaker 21: they've made this feel very fresh and modern and contemporary.

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Speaker 21: Frederick Forsmyth was a producer on the show, so it

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Speaker 21: sort of honors that original story as well. It's very

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00:59:49,853 --> 00:59:54,093
Speaker 21: glossy and sleek, and some great locations in Europe. Lots

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Speaker 21: of action scenes, but lots of quiet moments as well,

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Speaker 21: which I really liked that balance between the big explosive

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Speaker 21: moments and the quiet tension that sort of builds through it.

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Speaker 21: So it's a ten part series, and as you say,

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Speaker 21: the first fiveisodes are up on TV and Z plus

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Speaker 21: now just enough to get you hooked, and then the

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Speaker 21: next five will come out with.

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Speaker 2: Me and then's so, and then she's calling you in

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Speaker 2: because normally TV, and said often just does it, you know,

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Speaker 2: week by week, puts out one episode per week. So

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, the whole season's out.

1203
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Speaker 2: This is so exciting. I think that's why I winded

1204
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Speaker 2: it so hard and fast. And then I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh no, what now I have to wait. Now it's

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Speaker 2: this weekly thing.

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Speaker 14: No.

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Speaker 2: Really loved it. And look, I'm also a huge fan

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Speaker 2: of Bad Sisters. I love that these Irish sisters and

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Sharon Horgan as well. I

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Speaker 2: do think was behind creating and writing this this show.

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Speaker 14: Was she not?

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Speaker 2: Yes, she was, so she this was.

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Speaker 21: It's based on I think maybe a Danish series from

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Speaker 21: a few years ago, but she co created it and

1216
01:00:52,213 --> 01:00:53,733
Speaker 21: she's written in it and starring in it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm the same.

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Speaker 16: I love her.

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Speaker 21: She made shows like Catastrophe and Divorce and I'll I'll

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Speaker 21: watch anything that Sharon Horgan makes. But this is one

1221
01:01:01,373 --> 01:01:03,213
Speaker 21: of my favorites and it's back for a second season.

1222
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Speaker 21: This is Bad Sisters on Apple TV Plus. This is

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Speaker 21: a show about five Irish sisters. One of them is

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Speaker 21: married to an awful, awful man, and the series begins

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Speaker 21: with his funeral, but we don't know how he died

1226
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Speaker 21: or if someone killed him, and the show jumps back

1227
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Speaker 21: and forth in time as these sisters jokingly plot to

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Speaker 21: kill their brother in law and then they give it

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Speaker 21: a go, but they are terrible at it. They bungle

1230
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Speaker 21: things every time, they don't know what they're doing. And

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Speaker 21: they're also being investigated by the husband's insurance company, who

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Speaker 21: can't afford to pay out on his death and is

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Speaker 21: determined to uncover anything that will prove it wasn't an

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Speaker 21: accidental death. So season one was great. I'm interested to

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Speaker 21: see how they approached season two because season one ended

1236
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Speaker 21: so beautifully. It was sort of its own, very nice,

1237
01:01:47,333 --> 01:01:50,653
Speaker 21: self contained story, but there's such great chemistry here between

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Speaker 21: the five sisters, the ensemble cast and Clothes and Marie

1239
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Speaker 21: Duff and Eve Houston. It's wickedly funny, but it's also

1240
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Speaker 21: emotional and thoughtful and clever, and it captures all those

1241
01:02:01,373 --> 01:02:04,093
Speaker 21: dynamics of a family and then just takes it to

1242
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Speaker 21: another level because I.

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Speaker 2: Think the reason why You relates because it's very well

1244
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Speaker 2: rushing and as you say, well acted, but actually, if

1245
01:02:10,413 --> 01:02:13,173
Speaker 2: you r eye Tara was thinking about trying to kill

1246
01:02:13,253 --> 01:02:16,493
Speaker 2: someone and then and then do it kind of unfolds

1247
01:02:16,573 --> 01:02:18,013
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, like you can kind

1248
01:02:18,013 --> 01:02:19,613
Speaker 2: of relate to how things kind of go right and

1249
01:02:19,653 --> 01:02:21,973
Speaker 2: then how things go wrong, because really it's not our wheelhouse,

1250
01:02:22,093 --> 01:02:24,573
Speaker 2: yes exactly. You know, it's not what you're people are

1251
01:02:24,613 --> 01:02:25,693
Speaker 2: not the day of the Jackal.

1252
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Speaker 21: Now they don't know what they're.

1253
01:02:26,853 --> 01:02:29,493
Speaker 2: Doing, so you kind of relate from it, you know,

1254
01:02:29,613 --> 01:02:32,573
Speaker 2: from the couch going yeah, no, okay, I'm not sure

1255
01:02:32,573 --> 01:02:33,973
Speaker 2: i'd be able to put this off either.

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Speaker 12: I love it.

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01:02:36,173 --> 01:02:38,013
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Tara. Always good to catch up

1258
01:02:38,893 --> 01:02:42,013
Speaker 2: in Cold Water The Shelter Bay Mystery. That is the

1259
01:02:42,093 --> 01:02:45,733
Speaker 2: true crime documentary series that's on Prime Video, also on

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Speaker 2: Sky Open from the eighteenth to twentieth of November. Day

1261
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Speaker 2: of the Jackal TV and Z Plus, and Bad Sisters

1262
01:02:52,853 --> 01:02:55,973
Speaker 2: is on Apple TV Plus. We'll make sure that all

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Speaker 2: that information is up on our website. Newstalks THEREB dot

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Speaker 2: co dot in Z. It is twenty six to eleven.

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Speaker 2: You're with Newstalks there.

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Speaker 1: B getting your weekend started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: Team on News talks by.

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Speaker 2: This is new music from Foley. It's called heart Strings.

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Speaker 2: The pop duo have returned with their latest single, It's

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Speaker 2: a New Love Song, and alongside the single comes the

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Speaker 2: announcement of the upcoming sophomore album, That's Life Baby, set

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Speaker 2: to be released in February next year. Picking some good

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Speaker 2: music today, Libby, somebody asked who did we play before

1274
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Speaker 2: the ten o'clock news. That was Sam Fender and the

1275
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Speaker 2: song was called people Watching. There we go answering that

1276
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Speaker 2: one for you. Look, thanks for your text about that

1277
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Speaker 2: interview with Andy Allis. You've all you've got some text.

1278
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Speaker 2: He just saying, loving the interview. Damn, he's a nice guy.

1279
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Speaker 2: What a great interview. What a great guy he really is.

1280
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Speaker 2: And do you know what he's exactly like he was

1281
01:04:13,733 --> 01:04:15,373
Speaker 2: in the interview as he is on the TV show.

1282
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Speaker 2: You'll watch the TV show and he's full of energy.

1283
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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised when he said he hadn't slept at all.

1284
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Speaker 2: You do get that pressure that he's very interested in

1285
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Speaker 2: what's going on around him. He's engaged. You could tell

1286
01:04:25,213 --> 01:04:27,933
Speaker 2: he was. I think the two things he did really

1287
01:04:27,973 --> 01:04:31,093
Speaker 2: well was bring an energy to the show, but also

1288
01:04:31,573 --> 01:04:34,293
Speaker 2: just connected with people so beautifully on the show. There

1289
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Speaker 2: was a genuine connection there and so hence makes telling

1290
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Speaker 2: this story a little bit easier. But really nice guy. Yeah, no,

1291
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Speaker 2: full of energy. Watch the show you'll I think you'll

1292
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Speaker 2: get to know him a little bit better. Okay, Oscar,

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Speaker 2: how is our tech commentator? And he is starting to

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Speaker 2: see through all this AI business. It's like all big

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Speaker 2: tech advances, isn't it. You know, we're not really given

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Speaker 2: a chance to decide if we want it or old.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of often thrust upon us. There are parts

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Speaker 2: of it we'll find really useful, parts of us that

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Speaker 2: you know, parts of it that gets integrated into our

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Speaker 2: lives that we're not so happy about. So the question

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Speaker 2: is teach companies pushing AI into everything to justify the

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Speaker 2: extensive investment that they're making in developing these tools, and

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Speaker 2: do we need it? So we're going to talk to

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Speaker 2: Oscar about that next year on Newstalk ZBB, putting.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newsmakers the mic Hasking Breakfast.

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Speaker 20: Last year, there were eight hundred and ninety two thousand

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Speaker 20: visa applications, right, how many of those were skilled workers?

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Speaker 20: Turns out one point three eight percent from the order

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Speaker 20: the General's offer. Senior Performance Auditor Lucy Morlander.

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Speaker 9: Is with us.

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Speaker 15: What we're saying is the OECD and other research organizations

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Speaker 15: have said that immigration systems play a really important part,

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Speaker 15: not only in processing visas, but attracting the people that

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Speaker 15: a country needs. And we know New Zealand's in a

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Speaker 15: very competitive global market for skills. So the more that

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Speaker 15: the system is set up well to work smoothly those

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Speaker 15: applicants and the more it can help them make a

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Speaker 15: decision on whether or not to come here.

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Speaker 20: Certainly back Monday from six am, the mic asking Breakfast

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Speaker 20: with the Rain, driver of the last news Talk.

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Speaker 2: ZB twenty to eleven and news Talk Zedben. Our tech

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Speaker 2: commentator today is Oscar Howmon, He joins me. Now, morning Oscar, Morning, Francesca,

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Speaker 2: how's it going good?

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Speaker 12: Thanks?

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Speaker 2: Hey, great chat we're going to have this morning. Because

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Speaker 2: AI is kind of taking off. It's been put into

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Speaker 2: pretty much anything and everything, and I suppose the question

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Speaker 2: is is that happening to justify that just the huge

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Speaker 2: investment that companies have been making developing these tools.

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Speaker 6: Well, it certainly feels that way.

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Speaker 13: I mean companies like Microsoft, like Twitter, like you know, Meta,

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Speaker 13: who owns Facebook and Instagram. I mean that's been investing,

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Speaker 13: you know, hundreds and hundreds of millions. I's not billions

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Speaker 13: of dollars into I mean developing AI, just running it

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Speaker 13: costs a lot. And I mean it feels like they're

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Speaker 13: putting it in everything to make it kind of make

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Speaker 13: sense at the bottom line.

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Speaker 2: And I know that you find that bit frustrating because

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Speaker 2: some of it is helpful, but a lot of it isn't.

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Speaker 2: We're not asking for it.

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Speaker 13: Well again, it feels that way. You know, there's certain

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Speaker 13: things out there, certain AI. I mean pieces of software

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Speaker 13: for example, that are great. Everybody knows about chat GBT,

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Speaker 13: which is a great place to go to, you know,

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Speaker 13: collect ideas or askit for recipes or this and that

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Speaker 13: and the other. But I mean, at this point it's

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Speaker 13: a personal gripe for me that it seems like every

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Speaker 13: piece of technology I own, from my phone to my

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Speaker 13: computer and my television to my television, I should say,

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Speaker 13: have got some sort of AI in it, and I'm

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Speaker 13: not enjoying it whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Why not is it getting in the way of using

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Speaker 2: it or is it just.

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Speaker 17: Yeah it soon.

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Speaker 13: I mean that's how it feels to me, Like you know,

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Speaker 13: it's okay if I want to go and I want

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Speaker 13: to you know, if I want to go use it,

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Speaker 13: I mean, fantastic, that seems to be what it's all about.

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Speaker 13: But I mean when it just kind of sits there

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Speaker 13: and it's the buttons are always in an inconvenient spot

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Speaker 13: on you know, whatever app you're using, or you know,

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Speaker 13: you can't delete, like for example, on my Android phone,

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Speaker 13: Google's just installed their AI Gemini, you can't delete it.

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Speaker 13: And you know, Microsoft has got Copilot, it's basically built

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Speaker 13: into their software now. So yeah, it's just kind of

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Speaker 13: a thing where you don't have an opportunity to choose

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Speaker 13: to use it. It's just kind of there and you

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Speaker 13: can only really accidentally press the button, you know, so

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Speaker 13: to speak.

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Speaker 2: I suppose if it does genuinely add value, that's great.

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Speaker 2: But we're all different in how we use our tech

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Speaker 2: and devices, an't we.

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Speaker 13: Well that's what I think, and you know, I don't

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Speaker 13: want to make any value statements, but I feel like

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Speaker 13: most people, you know, they want things to be a

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Speaker 13: little bit easier, they want to be more efficient, but

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Speaker 13: I mean, we don't want to be I think most

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Speaker 13: people don't want to lose control of what they're doing,

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Speaker 13: especially on you know, especially online for example. I mean

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Speaker 13: with the rise of you know, cyber crime, you know,

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Speaker 13: just just being really responsible Internet users. I mean putting

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Speaker 13: putting your online presence into the hands of something that

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Speaker 13: you can't control. I mean that's a scary thought. And

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Speaker 13: that's before we start talking about you know what kind

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Speaker 13: of data and metadata these AI you know, models and

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Speaker 13: these our companies are taken from us.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Oscar, where are we in the AI revolution? I mean,

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Speaker 2: where where is are I going to be in five

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Speaker 2: or ten years?

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Speaker 13: Well, in terms of where we are in the revolution,

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Speaker 13: I mean you know, if you'd asked me that question

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Speaker 13: a year, eighteen months ago, I would have said the

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Speaker 13: world our oyster. I mean it was so novel and

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Speaker 13: so fun. But I feel like where we're at currently,

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Speaker 13: the kind of excitement has really died down. And I

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Speaker 13: mean in five or ten years time. To be honest,

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Speaker 13: I don't see AI having revolutionized society. I think it's

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Speaker 13: probably just running in the background, analyzing you know, lab

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Speaker 13: results and soil samples and doing all that kind of

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Speaker 13: really high you know, just data data investigation and stuff

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Speaker 13: like that. I don't think it's going to have any

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Speaker 13: strong consumer any strong applications for regular consumers, Like you're

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Speaker 13: all right, Oscar.

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Speaker 2: Really great to get your thoughts on this. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for your time today. Ed McKnight is with

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Speaker 2: us next to talk about the pros and cons of

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Speaker 2: rent vesting with News.

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Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin,

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Speaker 1: Infra Jack Tame and Be Pure Quality Supplements for essential Energy,

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Speaker 2: To talk money. We are joined by the economist at

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Speaker 2: Opie's Partners, Ed McKnight. Good morning, Ed, and congratulations on

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Speaker 2: being a homeowner again.

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Speaker 13: I'm so much fantastic. It's funny to come on here

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Speaker 13: because we're going to be talking about rent investing today.

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Speaker 13: This is the idea and it's a bit of a

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Speaker 13: trend at the moment where people buy investment properties before

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Speaker 13: actually buying their own home. And as you said, it's

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Speaker 13: pretty topical because I've been investing in property for about

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Speaker 13: five years now, which is not very long. But finally

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Speaker 13: after those five years, have decided that's it. I recently

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Speaker 13: got engaged, so it's time to buy a house for myself.

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Speaker 13: And I think, and I was reflecting on the reasons, well,

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Speaker 13: why did I leave it? Why didn't I just buy

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Speaker 13: a home to live in when I was twenty six

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Speaker 13: when I bought my first investment property. And I think

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Speaker 13: that in these days is sometimes you don't feel ready

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Speaker 13: to buy your first home and put down some routes

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Speaker 13: and actually settle down, because when we're in, when we're

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Speaker 13: in our twins, were still figuring it out. For some

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Speaker 13: people it's even still in their early thirties. And so

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Speaker 13: I see a couple of people deciding to say, look,

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Speaker 13: I'd love to get on the property letter, but I'm

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Speaker 13: going to buy an investment property before I buy that

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Speaker 13: first time that I'm actually going to live in.

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Speaker 2: Pros and cons for rent vesting, Well, the.

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Speaker 13: First pro is that sometimes you can get on the

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Speaker 13: ladder the property letter a little bit earlier than you

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Speaker 13: otherwise might. So, for example, I live in Auckland, but

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Speaker 13: I brought my first investment property down in christ Church.

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01:11:36,933 --> 01:11:39,733
Speaker 13: Now property prices are cheaper down there, so it's a

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Speaker 13: little bit easier to get on the letter. But look,

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Speaker 13: there are some obvious comms. We've got this big idea

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Speaker 13: in news that a lot of people really value owning

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Speaker 13: their own home and living it and.

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Speaker 5: Don't want to delay that.

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Speaker 13: Now, if that's you, and that's kind of where your

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01:11:53,173 --> 01:11:56,733
Speaker 13: values align and what you're into, then obviously rent vest

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01:11:56,813 --> 01:11:59,573
Speaker 13: and wouldn't be for you. But there was an interesting

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01:11:59,693 --> 01:12:03,013
Speaker 13: story of a journalist being pussy actually who wrote about

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01:12:03,013 --> 01:12:07,213
Speaker 13: it for Informed Investment magazine. He again might mean in Auckland,

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01:12:07,413 --> 01:12:09,533
Speaker 13: couldn't afford to buy a house up here, so he

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01:12:09,613 --> 01:12:12,333
Speaker 13: flew down to the need and bought an investment property there,

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Speaker 13: and then after he'd gone up in value, he was

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Speaker 13: able to use that to then go and buy that

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Speaker 13: first home up here in Auckland. So it's probably something

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01:12:21,253 --> 01:12:22,773
Speaker 13: you're going to do if you live in a more

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01:12:22,853 --> 01:12:27,573
Speaker 13: expensive part of the country like Auckland or Queenstown. Whereas

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Speaker 13: if you're growing up or you live in my old

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Speaker 13: hometown Harder in South southern up here, where property prices

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Speaker 13: are relatively cheap, well, buying your own home is probably

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Speaker 13: quite accessible relative or compared to what it is in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting and I would think too, being a renter

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Speaker 2: probably makes you a good landlord to ed.

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Speaker 13: We certainly understand we renters are coming for and emphasized

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Speaker 13: with them. And I think the other thing that I

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Speaker 13: talked about in my book well Playing is that when

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01:12:54,773 --> 01:12:57,173
Speaker 13: you are young, it might just be you or you

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Speaker 13: and your partner. So renting a two bedroom units or

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Speaker 13: a one bedroom apartment might be the total an appropriate

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Speaker 13: place for you to drink, but you might say, well,

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Speaker 13: I really want to invest or buy three bedroom homes then,

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01:13:13,813 --> 01:13:15,493
Speaker 13: so that's where it can make sense as well. You

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01:13:15,533 --> 01:13:17,853
Speaker 13: want to live in a central city one bedroom apartment,

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01:13:17,933 --> 01:13:20,013
Speaker 13: but you don't actually want to invest in that or

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01:13:20,453 --> 01:13:22,773
Speaker 13: have that as part of your portfolio, so you invest

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01:13:22,853 --> 01:13:26,013
Speaker 13: somewhere else. So there's not always this nice alignment between

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01:13:26,253 --> 01:13:28,493
Speaker 13: what makes a good investment and the home that you

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Speaker 13: want to live in.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Ed Jeseu. It has been a big

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Speaker 2: year for Ed, hasn't it. Thank you very much. Would

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Speaker 2: you like your garden to become an important corridor for

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01:13:36,933 --> 01:13:39,013
Speaker 2: native species nearby? If you're king to put out the

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01:13:39,053 --> 01:13:41,413
Speaker 2: welcome mat then root climb Past has some ideas on

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01:13:41,573 --> 01:13:42,893
Speaker 2: how to do this next.

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01:13:43,973 --> 01:13:47,013
Speaker 1: With steel Shop Don't Best their biggest spring sale ever.

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Speaker 2: Rude Climb Past. Good morning, A.

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Speaker 5: Very good morning to you. Are you well, Francesca?

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Speaker 2: I am very very well.

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Speaker 10: Where are you?

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Speaker 5: I am A moment in the middle of no not

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01:14:00,013 --> 01:14:03,413
Speaker 5: in the back of Katy Katy at my favorite seed place.

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01:14:03,453 --> 01:14:04,933
Speaker 5: Which is King's Seeds.

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Speaker 22: Have you heard of it?

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01:14:05,853 --> 01:14:07,213
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, here's the more time.

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01:14:07,293 --> 01:14:12,173
Speaker 5: Do you need any wildflowers? Flowers?

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Speaker 9: All right?

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01:14:12,653 --> 01:14:14,933
Speaker 12: Yeah? Done, done, I'm going.

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Speaker 2: To I'm going to I don't know if you remember,

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Speaker 2: but we spoke about how I tried to grow a

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01:14:18,053 --> 01:14:20,733
Speaker 2: meadow last year and it was hazard So I'm going

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01:14:20,773 --> 01:14:22,133
Speaker 2: to give it another world to see. I'm not giving

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01:14:22,213 --> 01:14:23,693
Speaker 2: up on the meadow. I am going to have them

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01:14:23,933 --> 01:14:26,053
Speaker 2: tiny meadow in my background. Anyway, we're not here to

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Speaker 2: talk about my meadow. We're going to talk to you.

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Speaker 5: About yes you are, because yes you are, because this

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01:14:30,653 --> 01:14:33,853
Speaker 5: is the thing about space for nature. That's what we're

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01:14:33,893 --> 01:14:36,613
Speaker 5: talking about. We're talking about making a garden like you

1509
01:14:36,733 --> 01:14:40,533
Speaker 5: want to do with wildflowers, so you help the pollinators.

1510
01:14:42,013 --> 01:14:45,013
Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, I am so on top I can organized

1511
01:14:45,093 --> 01:14:46,213
Speaker 2: here we go, so you go.

1512
01:14:46,493 --> 01:14:48,733
Speaker 5: So that's number one. Number two, you can do the

1513
01:14:48,853 --> 01:14:51,573
Speaker 5: same thing by planting all sorts of native plants that

1514
01:14:51,813 --> 01:14:55,053
Speaker 5: help other pollinators. But there's also help creatures that need

1515
01:14:55,173 --> 01:14:58,213
Speaker 5: to live in our native areas. So if you create

1516
01:14:58,333 --> 01:15:03,733
Speaker 5: a garden that is really friendly for native insects, native birds, nay,

1517
01:15:03,933 --> 01:15:07,653
Speaker 5: everything native, you are creating this and neighborhoods. Together with

1518
01:15:07,773 --> 01:15:11,533
Speaker 5: your neighbors, that becomes space for nature. That is the

1519
01:15:11,653 --> 01:15:13,813
Speaker 5: latest thing that they're doing here in the Bay of Plenty.

1520
01:15:14,293 --> 01:15:17,013
Speaker 5: Laura Rag the CEO, sent me the stuff the other

1521
01:15:17,133 --> 01:15:20,213
Speaker 5: day and it's actually happening here. It's brilliant.

1522
01:15:20,293 --> 01:15:22,653
Speaker 2: It's something that Enviral had by Plenty is doing, isn't it.

1523
01:15:22,653 --> 01:15:25,933
Speaker 2: And it's sort of inspiring the conversation today. So what

1524
01:15:26,133 --> 01:15:28,333
Speaker 2: kind of things can we be doing? Apart from growing

1525
01:15:28,373 --> 01:15:31,213
Speaker 2: your meadow, someone might want something a bit smaller in

1526
01:15:31,293 --> 01:15:35,093
Speaker 2: the backyard to encourage sort of you know, nature to

1527
01:15:35,133 --> 01:15:36,253
Speaker 2: come on in and pack up.

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01:15:37,093 --> 01:15:39,373
Speaker 5: Well, it's literally what you just talked about with your

1529
01:15:39,413 --> 01:15:43,653
Speaker 5: little meadows. If you can actually have a wonderfully covered

1530
01:15:43,733 --> 01:15:46,213
Speaker 5: meadow where your lizards can live and all that sort

1531
01:15:46,253 --> 01:15:49,053
Speaker 5: of stuff, just plant them and they will come. And

1532
01:15:49,173 --> 01:15:51,733
Speaker 5: it's the same with wetter and it's the same with birds,

1533
01:15:51,773 --> 01:15:53,813
Speaker 5: and it's the same with those sort of things. The

1534
01:15:54,093 --> 01:15:56,853
Speaker 5: second thing you can do, Francesca, you know we've talked

1535
01:15:56,853 --> 01:15:59,653
Speaker 5: about it in the past before, is putting traps up

1536
01:15:59,733 --> 01:16:01,653
Speaker 5: to get rid of all sorts of things such as

1537
01:16:02,253 --> 01:16:05,733
Speaker 5: you know, your rodents and your possums and all that

1538
01:16:05,813 --> 01:16:08,973
Speaker 5: sort of nons to keep those nasty things away from

1539
01:16:09,053 --> 01:16:12,093
Speaker 5: your garden and create at the same time a predator

1540
01:16:12,293 --> 01:16:15,973
Speaker 5: free wherever you live in this case the Day of Plenty, and.

1541
01:16:16,013 --> 01:16:17,173
Speaker 2: Get rid of your weeds too.

1542
01:16:18,213 --> 01:16:18,533
Speaker 16: Why not.

1543
01:16:19,213 --> 01:16:22,413
Speaker 5: Absolutely? If there's weeds that are really, really nasty and

1544
01:16:22,533 --> 01:16:26,053
Speaker 5: that start to if you like overshadow everything else that

1545
01:16:26,173 --> 01:16:28,413
Speaker 5: we need to have there, then you've got to get

1546
01:16:28,493 --> 01:16:30,533
Speaker 5: rid of the weeds as well. That's the thing. And

1547
01:16:30,653 --> 01:16:33,613
Speaker 5: what they do in this particular Day of Plenty is

1548
01:16:33,853 --> 01:16:36,373
Speaker 5: when you write sign up for this whole thing, you're

1549
01:16:36,413 --> 01:16:38,493
Speaker 5: not only getting a nice native tree, but also a

1550
01:16:38,573 --> 01:16:40,853
Speaker 5: trap to get rid of these unwanted critics.

1551
01:16:41,173 --> 01:16:44,013
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. So is this just happening if you sign

1552
01:16:44,133 --> 01:16:46,693
Speaker 2: up to plead to make space for NAT when your

1553
01:16:46,733 --> 01:16:48,573
Speaker 2: get out, is that just something that's happening in the

1554
01:16:48,573 --> 01:16:49,173
Speaker 2: Bay of Plenty.

1555
01:16:50,173 --> 01:16:52,773
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what now it is because you've just

1556
01:16:52,893 --> 01:16:57,733
Speaker 5: launched it. Okay, I am not joking. I did not

1557
01:16:57,933 --> 01:17:01,053
Speaker 5: know it wasn't launched until they told me yesterday that sorry,

1558
01:17:01,173 --> 01:17:02,853
Speaker 5: it's going to be launched this Saturday.

1559
01:17:06,413 --> 01:17:08,453
Speaker 2: I apologize to and viral Hubbay Plenty. But this is

1560
01:17:08,533 --> 01:17:11,013
Speaker 2: so cool. So you sign up and then you got

1561
01:17:11,053 --> 01:17:13,573
Speaker 2: to receive lots of advice and resources to help you

1562
01:17:13,653 --> 01:17:15,293
Speaker 2: in your journey. You're going to get a little signed

1563
01:17:15,333 --> 01:17:17,253
Speaker 2: for your gatory litter box, but as you said, you're

1564
01:17:17,253 --> 01:17:20,013
Speaker 2: also getting a trap and a tree.

1565
01:17:20,173 --> 01:17:23,373
Speaker 5: For exactly Yeah, so you're doing exactly what needs to

1566
01:17:23,413 --> 01:17:25,013
Speaker 5: be done. And once you're doing it, and once to

1567
01:17:25,373 --> 01:17:27,653
Speaker 5: and we've talked about this too. Once the kids gatthered,

1568
01:17:28,013 --> 01:17:29,053
Speaker 5: they want more traps.

1569
01:17:30,853 --> 01:17:32,653
Speaker 2: Yes, I've got a trap going into the roof of

1570
01:17:32,733 --> 01:17:36,533
Speaker 2: my house today. Yeah, and we'll see what's see what

1571
01:17:36,613 --> 01:17:39,533
Speaker 2: we catch are your goolslite feels like there's an elephant

1572
01:17:39,613 --> 01:17:41,613
Speaker 2: living up their roads, so it'll be interesting to see

1573
01:17:41,653 --> 01:17:45,693
Speaker 2: how that goes. Kevin, lovely time, don't spend too much money.

1574
01:17:48,053 --> 01:17:49,813
Speaker 4: I know what you mean with you're with your with

1575
01:17:49,933 --> 01:17:50,293
Speaker 4: your seat.

1576
01:17:50,373 --> 01:17:51,933
Speaker 5: I'll see if I grab some see you.

1577
01:17:51,973 --> 01:17:54,613
Speaker 2: So, thank you so much. That was rude climb fast.

1578
01:17:54,693 --> 01:17:56,173
Speaker 2: If you are in the Bay of Plenty area, just

1579
01:17:56,213 --> 01:17:58,653
Speaker 2: Google and viral hub Bay of Plenty or space for

1580
01:17:58,773 --> 01:18:01,573
Speaker 2: Nature and I'm sure that all that information will come out.

1581
01:18:01,533 --> 01:18:02,493
Speaker 1: For you there.

1582
01:18:04,373 --> 01:18:06,693
Speaker 2: I'm going to finish a bit more Cold Play. Why not,

1583
01:18:07,613 --> 01:18:09,253
Speaker 2: because a seal is gonna went to the concert last

1584
01:18:09,333 --> 01:18:11,773
Speaker 2: night She's going to fill us in later next and

1585
01:18:12,013 --> 01:18:14,493
Speaker 2: tell us what she thought of it. You're with News Talks.

1586
01:18:14,533 --> 01:18:15,413
Speaker 2: It'd be back shortly.

1587
01:18:27,333 --> 01:18:28,093
Speaker 4: No better way to.

1588
01:18:28,133 --> 01:18:32,053
Speaker 1: Kick off your weekend than with Francesca Saturday Mornings with

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01:18:32,133 --> 01:18:36,693
Speaker 1: Francesca rudgn infijectaime and be Pure policy Supplements for a

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Speaker 1: Sentil Energy News Talk.

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01:18:38,413 --> 01:19:04,533
Speaker 2: B seven past to liven Here on News Talks B.

1592
01:19:04,653 --> 01:19:08,613
Speaker 2: I'm Francisco Rudgan filling Infroject time with you until midday today.

1593
01:19:09,293 --> 01:19:11,373
Speaker 2: Coming up this hour, we're gonna get Jason Pine's thoughts

1594
01:19:11,413 --> 01:19:14,053
Speaker 2: on whether the All Blacks can beat France tomorrow morning.

1595
01:19:14,133 --> 01:19:14,493
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1596
01:19:14,613 --> 01:19:16,853
Speaker 2: I reckon they can. I mean, on paper, the odds

1597
01:19:16,853 --> 01:19:19,213
Speaker 2: are it's probably even odds right, But I don't know.

1598
01:19:19,413 --> 01:19:20,933
Speaker 2: I like the vibe coming off of the All Blacks

1599
01:19:20,973 --> 01:19:23,333
Speaker 2: at the moment. There seems to be that belief is back,

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01:19:23,413 --> 01:19:26,133
Speaker 2: Isn't that? So I'm going to back them. Castine Rains

1601
01:19:26,213 --> 01:19:29,213
Speaker 2: has two new books from New Zealand authors and Estelle

1602
01:19:29,253 --> 01:19:32,853
Speaker 2: Clifford celebrated her birthday the Coldplay concert last night. Was

1603
01:19:32,933 --> 01:19:35,653
Speaker 2: it the best birthday ever? We'll find out at the

1604
01:19:35,933 --> 01:19:42,453
Speaker 2: end of the hour. Francesco Google Sutherland joins us now

1605
01:19:42,613 --> 01:19:44,053
Speaker 2: and our Well Being segment.

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01:19:44,173 --> 01:19:47,253
Speaker 6: Good morning, Google, Good morning Francesca.

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01:19:47,333 --> 01:19:47,653
Speaker 7: How are you.

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01:19:47,893 --> 01:19:48,893
Speaker 10: I'm really really good.

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01:19:48,933 --> 01:19:51,413
Speaker 2: Thank you. You've got an interesting topic for us today

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01:19:51,453 --> 01:19:54,653
Speaker 2: because I think we've all heard over the years about

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01:19:54,693 --> 01:19:57,453
Speaker 2: the benefits of different types of noises. I think you've

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01:19:57,493 --> 01:19:59,333
Speaker 2: definitely heard. If you've had a baby at some point

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01:19:59,373 --> 01:20:01,813
Speaker 2: in the last twenty years, you would have heard about

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01:20:01,853 --> 01:20:03,933
Speaker 2: that sort of white noise that might help your baby

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01:20:03,973 --> 01:20:06,973
Speaker 2: get to sleep in things. I had no idea that Google,

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01:20:07,333 --> 01:20:10,093
Speaker 2: we'd move. We now have green noise, brown noise, pink noise,

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01:20:10,093 --> 01:20:12,373
Speaker 2: white noise. It's it's it's growing.

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01:20:12,733 --> 01:20:17,733
Speaker 6: I was about, it's a complete rainbow of noise, really,

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01:20:17,813 --> 01:20:19,973
Speaker 6: isn't it that every time you kind of look at it,

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01:20:20,053 --> 01:20:20,853
Speaker 6: there's things to be.

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01:20:21,293 --> 01:20:21,973
Speaker 12: More and more.

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01:20:22,173 --> 01:20:24,333
Speaker 16: So we've got, as you say, we've got white noise,

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01:20:24,413 --> 01:20:27,293
Speaker 16: which is and I'm not a technical expert in noise

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01:20:27,413 --> 01:20:28,893
Speaker 16: to be to be perfectly frank.

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01:20:28,773 --> 01:20:30,533
Speaker 6: So I'm kind of going I think I understand what

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01:20:30,653 --> 01:20:32,013
Speaker 6: that means. You understand it when you hear it.

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01:20:32,133 --> 01:20:36,213
Speaker 16: White noise is essentially random, all the frequencies we can hear.

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01:20:37,613 --> 01:20:41,853
Speaker 16: And then there's green noise, which is I equate it

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01:20:41,893 --> 01:20:45,773
Speaker 16: to a bit like hearing, you know, brooks burbling and

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01:20:45,933 --> 01:20:48,813
Speaker 16: rivers gushing, and the rain sound of rain on the roof,

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01:20:48,933 --> 01:20:49,853
Speaker 16: that type of thing.

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01:20:50,213 --> 01:20:55,733
Speaker 6: Right, And we've got brown noise, brown noises low frequency sound,

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01:20:55,973 --> 01:20:58,493
Speaker 6: so sort of I guess that sort of booming, kind

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01:20:58,533 --> 01:20:59,693
Speaker 6: a deeper sound.

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01:21:00,213 --> 01:21:02,253
Speaker 16: And then we've got pink noise.

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01:21:01,973 --> 01:21:04,813
Speaker 6: And pink noises kind of like white noise apart from

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01:21:04,893 --> 01:21:05,653
Speaker 6: the top.

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01:21:05,813 --> 01:21:09,973
Speaker 16: The sharp frequencies have been kind of tuned down, so

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01:21:10,053 --> 01:21:12,813
Speaker 16: they're a little bit less intense. And there's all this

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01:21:12,973 --> 01:21:15,253
Speaker 16: research about, oh, is this good for us our brains

1641
01:21:15,333 --> 01:21:16,813
Speaker 16: or is this not good for our brains?

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01:21:16,893 --> 01:21:19,213
Speaker 6: As you say, sometimes we use it to I use

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01:21:19,293 --> 01:21:20,213
Speaker 6: white noise at home.

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01:21:20,293 --> 01:21:22,133
Speaker 16: I put it on my headphones if my daughter's watching

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01:21:22,213 --> 01:21:24,333
Speaker 16: TV and I want to be in the in the lounge,

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01:21:24,373 --> 01:21:26,613
Speaker 16: but I don't. I want to read, and I want

1647
01:21:26,653 --> 01:21:29,693
Speaker 16: to concentrate and not not hear her terrible TV programs

1648
01:21:29,773 --> 01:21:32,453
Speaker 16: like so I certainly use it for that. But there's

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01:21:32,493 --> 01:21:34,573
Speaker 16: lots of lots of sort of debate around is this

1650
01:21:34,733 --> 01:21:37,013
Speaker 16: good for us or is this helpful or not helpful?

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01:21:37,413 --> 01:21:39,973
Speaker 2: Well, as I mentioned, I'd never heard of white and

1652
01:21:40,013 --> 01:21:42,653
Speaker 2: pink noise, and we've actually got some examples to play

1653
01:21:42,693 --> 01:21:46,733
Speaker 2: for people. So here here's here's we start with white noise.

1654
01:21:46,813 --> 01:21:47,013
Speaker 12: Love me.

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01:21:47,053 --> 01:21:55,613
Speaker 2: Here's some white noise that's kind of like the jet engine,

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01:21:55,973 --> 01:21:58,813
Speaker 2: the jet sort of the plane engine, isn't it. And

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01:21:58,893 --> 01:22:02,293
Speaker 2: that's sort of okay, So that's your white ness.

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01:22:02,533 --> 01:22:02,893
Speaker 4: That's good.

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01:22:03,173 --> 01:22:03,653
Speaker 6: That's white.

1660
01:22:03,853 --> 01:22:05,053
Speaker 2: Okay, pink what's pink?

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01:22:05,133 --> 01:22:05,373
Speaker 9: Labe?

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01:22:12,053 --> 01:22:16,413
Speaker 2: Okay, it's just similar. But as you say, different frequency Google.

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01:22:17,133 --> 01:22:20,333
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, and it sounds yeah that that that made

1664
01:22:20,373 --> 01:22:22,453
Speaker 16: me think of rain on the roof a little bit too.

1665
01:22:22,533 --> 01:22:22,733
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1666
01:22:22,733 --> 01:22:24,213
Speaker 2: I thought it was a wave coming in, but it

1667
01:22:24,293 --> 01:22:25,013
Speaker 2: never quite broke.

1668
01:22:25,493 --> 01:22:29,013
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, that's a good that's a good explanation

1669
01:22:29,093 --> 01:22:29,573
Speaker 6: of it. Yeah.

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01:22:30,053 --> 01:22:32,533
Speaker 2: So there's been some recent people have been looking at

1671
01:22:32,573 --> 01:22:35,373
Speaker 2: the impact of white and pink noise and they're thinking

1672
01:22:35,413 --> 01:22:38,093
Speaker 2: that there could be a potential it could improve concentration

1673
01:22:38,253 --> 01:22:41,773
Speaker 2: and memory for adolescents and young adults, but only those

1674
01:22:41,813 --> 01:22:42,453
Speaker 2: with ADHD.

1675
01:22:43,773 --> 01:22:46,733
Speaker 6: Yeah, which is which is not what you'd expect, right,

1676
01:22:46,813 --> 01:22:47,613
Speaker 6: you would expect.

1677
01:22:47,733 --> 01:22:50,213
Speaker 16: So so that you know what they did, Generally that

1678
01:22:50,373 --> 01:22:55,133
Speaker 16: you play give people headphones and play some different sorts

1679
01:22:55,173 --> 01:22:58,213
Speaker 16: of noise through them and see see if their concentration

1680
01:22:58,413 --> 01:23:01,133
Speaker 16: levels or their attention span, their memory improves.

1681
01:23:02,573 --> 01:23:05,013
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they found that pink can white.

1682
01:23:04,813 --> 01:23:09,933
Speaker 16: Noise were helpful for young people and young adults who

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01:23:10,053 --> 01:23:15,413
Speaker 16: have ADHD. It actually helped them concentrate more, whereas for

1684
01:23:15,493 --> 01:23:18,973
Speaker 16: people who didn't have ADHD, it actually interfered with their concentration,

1685
01:23:19,213 --> 01:23:22,573
Speaker 16: which is sort of immediately My immediate soort was, that's

1686
01:23:22,573 --> 01:23:24,493
Speaker 16: a bit back to front that you would expect that,

1687
01:23:25,133 --> 01:23:28,453
Speaker 16: you know, playing a whole lot of noise to somebody

1688
01:23:28,493 --> 01:23:30,973
Speaker 16: who doesn't concentrate well in the first place is really

1689
01:23:31,053 --> 01:23:33,293
Speaker 16: going to mess with them. But in fact that's not

1690
01:23:33,413 --> 01:23:34,013
Speaker 16: what they found.

1691
01:23:34,093 --> 01:23:35,613
Speaker 6: It was. It was the opposite way around, which I

1692
01:23:35,693 --> 01:23:37,173
Speaker 6: found quite quite fascinating.

1693
01:23:37,213 --> 01:23:37,413
Speaker 9: Really.

1694
01:23:37,813 --> 01:23:41,253
Speaker 2: No, because my daughter has ADHD and she's always got

1695
01:23:41,293 --> 01:23:43,253
Speaker 2: a couple of things on the go, so she constantly

1696
01:23:43,333 --> 01:23:48,613
Speaker 2: has music playing, which enables her to relax and focus

1697
01:23:48,813 --> 01:23:51,973
Speaker 2: on studying, listen to a teacher, whatever else she needs

1698
01:23:52,013 --> 01:23:56,133
Speaker 2: to be doing. So whereas I cannot work worth music

1699
01:23:56,213 --> 01:23:57,973
Speaker 2: or something else going on, it distracts me. I need

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01:23:58,053 --> 01:24:01,093
Speaker 2: to be focus. If I'm preparing a show and reading

1701
01:24:01,173 --> 01:24:03,053
Speaker 2: and writing, I need to be completely focused on that.

1702
01:24:03,133 --> 01:24:06,213
Speaker 2: I can't. It's almost sort of distracting to have something

1703
01:24:06,533 --> 01:24:08,893
Speaker 2: going on to I do kind of get that. I

1704
01:24:08,973 --> 01:24:12,213
Speaker 2: understand how that noise might just it just might help

1705
01:24:12,453 --> 01:24:15,893
Speaker 2: soothes that somehow and then allows you to focus on, yeah,

1706
01:24:16,013 --> 01:24:16,493
Speaker 2: something else.

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01:24:17,453 --> 01:24:17,653
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:24:17,693 --> 01:24:21,253
Speaker 16: The theory is that that that people's ADHD, their ability

1709
01:24:21,333 --> 01:24:25,493
Speaker 16: to concentrate, those parts of the brain are actually understimulated, and.

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01:24:25,573 --> 01:24:30,253
Speaker 6: So that by playing this white noise it turns there.

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01:24:30,613 --> 01:24:34,333
Speaker 16: It sort of stimulates your attention more and gets them

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01:24:34,373 --> 01:24:39,013
Speaker 16: to a peak of ability to concentrate. Whereas if you

1713
01:24:39,213 --> 01:24:42,533
Speaker 16: stimulate it too much, which is what perhaps those of

1714
01:24:42,613 --> 01:24:46,013
Speaker 16: us with without ADHD experience, if you stimulate it too much,

1715
01:24:46,093 --> 01:24:49,493
Speaker 16: it becomes overload. So there's almost a sweet spot if

1716
01:24:49,533 --> 01:24:52,173
Speaker 16: you like, of concentration if you if you, if you

1717
01:24:52,693 --> 01:24:54,253
Speaker 16: you might need something to bring you up to that

1718
01:24:54,373 --> 01:24:56,653
Speaker 16: sweet spot if you don't, if you have ADHD. But

1719
01:24:56,733 --> 01:25:00,693
Speaker 16: if you don't have ADHD, having that that that concentration,

1720
01:25:00,853 --> 01:25:03,533
Speaker 16: that memory stimulated actually pushes you out of the sweet

1721
01:25:03,573 --> 01:25:04,573
Speaker 16: spot and over the top.

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01:25:05,373 --> 01:25:08,773
Speaker 6: So it's really fascinating. And let's be clear, it's not

1723
01:25:09,013 --> 01:25:10,213
Speaker 6: sort of a huge it's not.

1724
01:25:10,293 --> 01:25:14,333
Speaker 16: A massive cure all for ADHD, but it could help, so,

1725
01:25:14,773 --> 01:25:17,533
Speaker 16: you know, particularly maybe for kids like your daughter, playing

1726
01:25:17,613 --> 01:25:20,093
Speaker 16: some white noise or some pink noise might be really helpful,

1727
01:25:20,133 --> 01:25:23,013
Speaker 16: particularly around studying and times that they really need to concentrate.

1728
01:25:23,373 --> 01:25:25,173
Speaker 2: I think she'll tell me she's got a much better

1729
01:25:25,253 --> 01:25:28,173
Speaker 2: playlist on her Spotify diggle that she'd prefer to listen to.

1730
01:25:28,373 --> 01:25:31,573
Speaker 2: But it is absolutely worth worth trying today. If you

1731
01:25:31,653 --> 01:25:34,133
Speaker 2: are someone you know, if you do have your ADHD

1732
01:25:34,253 --> 01:25:37,053
Speaker 2: and thinking, well, give it a go. Nothing. Look, I

1733
01:25:37,133 --> 01:25:40,053
Speaker 2: think it's things like ADHD you can try. Lots of

1734
01:25:40,093 --> 01:25:41,933
Speaker 2: different things work for different people. You just got to

1735
01:25:41,933 --> 01:25:45,333
Speaker 2: try them, don't you. Doogle really nice to talk to you.

1736
01:25:45,533 --> 01:25:47,213
Speaker 2: Thank you for your time this morning. Doogle list from

1737
01:25:47,373 --> 01:25:52,093
Speaker 2: Umbrella Well Being. Right, there is more to Anaheim than

1738
01:25:52,213 --> 01:25:54,813
Speaker 2: just Disneyland. We are going to go traveling with Mike

1739
01:25:54,893 --> 01:25:58,093
Speaker 2: Yardley next. It's fourteen past eleven Travel.

1740
01:25:57,973 --> 01:26:02,053
Speaker 1: With Wendy wu Tours, unique Fully Inclusive Tours around the World.

1741
01:26:03,893 --> 01:26:08,253
Speaker 2: Mike Yardley, good morning, Good morning to you. How Mandy

1742
01:26:08,333 --> 01:26:11,293
Speaker 2: to talk to you. When I think of Anaheim, I

1743
01:26:11,413 --> 01:26:12,933
Speaker 2: immediately think of Disneyland.

1744
01:26:13,573 --> 01:26:20,133
Speaker 7: Yes you see ears Mouse Ears, Yes, q'ses Zuros.

1745
01:26:22,533 --> 01:26:27,213
Speaker 2: Yeah that's money to ching. But yeah, Anaheim has become

1746
01:26:27,493 --> 01:26:29,573
Speaker 2: like the foody destination too, right.

1747
01:26:30,373 --> 01:26:33,493
Speaker 7: Indeed, yep, beyond the Mouth's House. A lot of visitors

1748
01:26:33,493 --> 01:26:36,773
Speaker 7: are lingering in Anaheim because the hospitals and Francesca is

1749
01:26:36,933 --> 01:26:40,853
Speaker 7: just so damn good with all the southern Califorfornia fields.

1750
01:26:41,333 --> 01:26:44,653
Speaker 7: So whether you're after fust free street eats or gormet glories,

1751
01:26:44,733 --> 01:26:47,333
Speaker 7: I've got all bases covered. And I was intrigued to

1752
01:26:47,373 --> 01:26:48,653
Speaker 7: learn when I was there a couple of weeks ago

1753
01:26:48,733 --> 01:26:53,173
Speaker 7: that the Anaheim area now has over thirty Michelin recommendations,

1754
01:26:53,253 --> 01:26:56,173
Speaker 7: you know, in terms of eatery, so you can go Berzerk.

1755
01:26:56,413 --> 01:27:00,613
Speaker 7: One really good specimen, particularly for brunching, is a place

1756
01:27:00,693 --> 01:27:02,853
Speaker 7: called Poppy And see this has your name all over

1757
01:27:02,933 --> 01:27:05,893
Speaker 7: it because the bar, in the lounge, the restaurant, it's

1758
01:27:05,973 --> 01:27:08,933
Speaker 7: all sorted in a greenhouse, so you just feel like

1759
01:27:09,013 --> 01:27:12,613
Speaker 7: you're sitting in the garden surround it. No, it's very

1760
01:27:12,733 --> 01:27:15,413
Speaker 7: very cool, and all the ingredients and every dish at

1761
01:27:15,453 --> 01:27:19,573
Speaker 7: Poppy and Seed are locally grown, raised, or caught. It

1762
01:27:19,733 --> 01:27:23,453
Speaker 7: is super local. I ended up having a bit of

1763
01:27:23,493 --> 01:27:26,733
Speaker 7: a munch on the very plump shrimp and creamy grits.

1764
01:27:27,053 --> 01:27:28,493
Speaker 7: That was a brunch to remember.

1765
01:27:29,213 --> 01:27:31,333
Speaker 2: So if you've got all these Michelin star sort of

1766
01:27:31,773 --> 01:27:33,653
Speaker 2: restaurants and things. Is it are they easy to get

1767
01:27:33,733 --> 01:27:35,733
Speaker 2: into or if you're heading that way, do you need

1768
01:27:35,813 --> 01:27:38,293
Speaker 2: to be booking in advance and getting quite organized to

1769
01:27:38,333 --> 01:27:39,933
Speaker 2: be able to the best they offer?

1770
01:27:40,813 --> 01:27:44,693
Speaker 7: Very good question. Generally for brunch that's sort of walking,

1771
01:27:44,893 --> 01:27:48,173
Speaker 7: but if you're wanting to dine at night, definitely book

1772
01:27:48,173 --> 01:27:49,293
Speaker 7: in advance. Absolutely.

1773
01:27:49,973 --> 01:27:52,733
Speaker 2: Okay, why do you think it has grown? Why did

1774
01:27:52,813 --> 01:27:53,973
Speaker 2: think it's sort of become this?

1775
01:27:56,133 --> 01:27:59,093
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, there is a lot of wealth in the

1776
01:27:59,173 --> 01:28:02,893
Speaker 7: Orange County area, so they've really raised the bar on

1777
01:28:03,893 --> 01:28:06,653
Speaker 7: hospitality particularly. I mean, I was amazed how many new

1778
01:28:06,733 --> 01:28:09,653
Speaker 7: hotels have opened in Anaheim just in the last couple

1779
01:28:09,733 --> 01:28:13,493
Speaker 7: of years post COVID, And yeah, there just seems to

1780
01:28:13,573 --> 01:28:17,933
Speaker 7: be a certain new swank to Anaheim that I had

1781
01:28:18,053 --> 01:28:19,053
Speaker 7: not noticed before.

1782
01:28:20,013 --> 01:28:23,333
Speaker 2: Food on the go, where's good to grab something to eat?

1783
01:28:24,213 --> 01:28:28,093
Speaker 7: The Farmer's Market is excellent. And if there was one

1784
01:28:28,213 --> 01:28:30,333
Speaker 7: tip I would give at the market, I would say

1785
01:28:30,453 --> 01:28:34,213
Speaker 7: go for the Internata fish tacos. They are just so good.

1786
01:28:34,653 --> 01:28:37,373
Speaker 7: And then just down the road there is this amazing bakery.

1787
01:28:37,413 --> 01:28:41,573
Speaker 7: It's a Japanese bakery called Oka Yamacobo Bakery, And I

1788
01:28:41,813 --> 01:28:45,533
Speaker 7: just discovered so many new snacks there that I had

1789
01:28:45,613 --> 01:28:50,813
Speaker 7: not had before, For example, the Kobocha casted buns Francesca.

1790
01:28:50,893 --> 01:28:53,653
Speaker 7: They are worth a trip to Anaheim alone. And I

1791
01:28:53,893 --> 01:28:57,333
Speaker 7: did not know, but kobocha is Japanese pumpkin, right, And

1792
01:28:57,573 --> 01:28:59,413
Speaker 7: if you want to try this at home, go for

1793
01:28:59,533 --> 01:29:02,693
Speaker 7: it and you're custed to a bit of pumpkin. It

1794
01:29:02,853 --> 01:29:06,893
Speaker 7: is such a winning mix. And then also the area

1795
01:29:07,213 --> 01:29:10,573
Speaker 7: Anaheim's famous packing house, which has been transformed into a

1796
01:29:10,693 --> 01:29:14,693
Speaker 7: vast food hall, dozens of vendors. But there is a

1797
01:29:14,773 --> 01:29:17,293
Speaker 7: really cool place called pop Bar, which is a very

1798
01:29:17,813 --> 01:29:22,253
Speaker 7: creative ice creamery with very zany flavors, things like green

1799
01:29:22,373 --> 01:29:27,813
Speaker 7: tea kipkit which is a green tea gelato half dipped

1800
01:29:27,813 --> 01:29:31,053
Speaker 7: in chocolate with KitKat crumbled. That was amazing.

1801
01:29:31,173 --> 01:29:33,853
Speaker 2: It sounds like you can sort of satisfy every taste

1802
01:29:33,933 --> 01:29:37,293
Speaker 2: in craving in this place. I was laughing when you

1803
01:29:37,373 --> 01:29:39,453
Speaker 2: mentioned laughing when you mentioned it you discovered all these

1804
01:29:39,493 --> 01:29:42,613
Speaker 2: new snacks because I've been told by my my, you know,

1805
01:29:42,893 --> 01:29:45,293
Speaker 2: stop snacking. Frenchies could just eat a decent meals. Stop

1806
01:29:45,333 --> 01:29:47,693
Speaker 2: snacking and you'll keep your diaper in the control. And now,

1807
01:29:47,773 --> 01:29:49,493
Speaker 2: of course, all you see the minute someone tells you

1808
01:29:49,573 --> 01:29:51,893
Speaker 2: not to do something, then all you see the snacks

1809
01:29:51,933 --> 01:29:54,133
Speaker 2: that you want to eat, left, right and center. Hey,

1810
01:29:54,413 --> 01:29:57,493
Speaker 2: there's a very strong craft bes sing too in Anaheim.

1811
01:29:58,373 --> 01:30:02,813
Speaker 7: Yes, they love their craft. They've got dozens of venues

1812
01:30:03,013 --> 01:30:05,213
Speaker 7: and I checked out a couple which I really liked.

1813
01:30:05,293 --> 01:30:09,493
Speaker 7: Golden Road Brewer. I definitely suggest that one because it's

1814
01:30:09,613 --> 01:30:12,413
Speaker 7: right across the road from Angel Stadium, the baseball stadium,

1815
01:30:12,573 --> 01:30:15,573
Speaker 7: and they have got the most gigantic beer garden I

1816
01:30:15,653 --> 01:30:20,653
Speaker 7: have ever seen at Golden Road. Lots of tropical IPAs

1817
01:30:21,173 --> 01:30:24,373
Speaker 7: like mango fruit beer, which at the spot, I have

1818
01:30:24,493 --> 01:30:28,693
Speaker 7: to say. And another really cool place, Villain's Brewing. It's

1819
01:30:28,733 --> 01:30:32,413
Speaker 7: sort of like it's permanently celebrating Halloween. At Villain's Brewing.

1820
01:30:32,493 --> 01:30:37,493
Speaker 7: It's all very dark and sort of horror themed. Their

1821
01:30:37,693 --> 01:30:43,053
Speaker 7: signature ipa is called Brethren of Filth. And I've got

1822
01:30:43,133 --> 01:30:47,413
Speaker 7: a really good Mexican style lager saka La Balsita, which

1823
01:30:47,533 --> 01:30:50,373
Speaker 7: I absolutely loved. Either way, if you're looking for a

1824
01:30:50,533 --> 01:30:55,293
Speaker 7: really big, bling, bling dinner in Anaheim, the place I

1825
01:30:55,453 --> 01:31:00,613
Speaker 7: would recommend for absolute glamour dining, and it's stuffed with celebrities.

1826
01:31:00,693 --> 01:31:06,373
Speaker 7: This place, the Anaheim White House, it is just superb much.

1827
01:31:06,373 --> 01:31:09,533
Speaker 7: It's Italian based. Whether it's your steaks, your seafood, or

1828
01:31:09,693 --> 01:31:14,573
Speaker 7: obviously pasta, it is dining in excelsius. And the interesting

1829
01:31:14,653 --> 01:31:17,613
Speaker 7: aspect to Anaheim White House is that the guy that

1830
01:31:17,733 --> 01:31:24,053
Speaker 7: runs it, Bruno Serrato, his philanthropy is extraordinary. This place

1831
01:31:24,253 --> 01:31:30,093
Speaker 7: also pumps out thirty thousand meals a week, my goodness,

1832
01:31:30,133 --> 01:31:33,573
Speaker 7: for children in need. It's an incredible He's like he's

1833
01:31:33,613 --> 01:31:36,213
Speaker 7: won a see Ann Hero Award, he got a blessing

1834
01:31:36,333 --> 01:31:39,213
Speaker 7: from the Pope. He was even knighted by the Italian

1835
01:31:39,293 --> 01:31:40,773
Speaker 7: governments for his philanthropy.

1836
01:31:42,213 --> 01:31:43,733
Speaker 2: The great thing about White House is that's a very

1837
01:31:43,733 --> 01:31:45,213
Speaker 2: easy name for you to remember when you get there

1838
01:31:45,213 --> 01:31:47,893
Speaker 2: and go, now, what did makrae? That's good? Hey, what

1839
01:31:48,013 --> 01:31:48,773
Speaker 2: else did you get up to?

1840
01:31:48,773 --> 01:31:49,013
Speaker 9: Did you?

1841
01:31:49,213 --> 01:31:54,653
Speaker 2: What about do lover a rooftop bar or eat and speakeasy?

1842
01:31:54,773 --> 01:31:55,733
Speaker 2: You've got to speak easy.

1843
01:31:55,893 --> 01:31:59,373
Speaker 7: Yeah, they are into your speakeasies in Anaheim. So at

1844
01:31:59,373 --> 01:32:01,213
Speaker 7: the Pecking House, there is a really cool little place

1845
01:32:01,293 --> 01:32:03,693
Speaker 7: called the Blind Rabbit. You will feel like a hobbit

1846
01:32:04,093 --> 01:32:07,053
Speaker 7: at the Blind Rabbit. It's so small, it's like a

1847
01:32:07,173 --> 01:32:10,053
Speaker 7: rabbit hole of a bar, and the exit is through

1848
01:32:10,093 --> 01:32:13,453
Speaker 7: a bookcase if you like. And also I went to

1849
01:32:13,493 --> 01:32:15,493
Speaker 7: a place called Strong Water, which has the sort of

1850
01:32:15,573 --> 01:32:18,413
Speaker 7: speakeasy vibe because you would not know it was there

1851
01:32:18,813 --> 01:32:23,253
Speaker 7: unless you knew. And the thing about Strong Water, Francesca,

1852
01:32:23,933 --> 01:32:28,493
Speaker 7: the extravagant fit out is like a shipwreck crossed with

1853
01:32:28,573 --> 01:32:33,253
Speaker 7: a tiki bar. Though it's just magical, its whimsical, its maritime.

1854
01:32:34,373 --> 01:32:39,293
Speaker 7: The craft cotails incredible for rooftops. The really good thing

1855
01:32:39,333 --> 01:32:42,653
Speaker 7: about Anaheim with your rooftop hospo scene is you also

1856
01:32:43,173 --> 01:32:47,333
Speaker 7: get served up a California sunset and the nightly Disney fireworks,

1857
01:32:47,573 --> 01:32:51,213
Speaker 7: so there's a lot of bean for your back. And

1858
01:32:51,373 --> 01:32:53,893
Speaker 7: I went to a place called Top of the V

1859
01:32:54,173 --> 01:32:56,533
Speaker 7: which is at the top of the viv Hotel, one

1860
01:32:56,573 --> 01:33:00,333
Speaker 7: of these swanky new hotels in Anaheim. The menu is

1861
01:33:00,693 --> 01:33:07,013
Speaker 7: Basque cuisine, so absolutely delicious, things like serrano'hamts and a

1862
01:33:07,093 --> 01:33:10,653
Speaker 7: gooey bechamel sauce, which to me was like the epitome

1863
01:33:10,853 --> 01:33:12,493
Speaker 7: of melt in your mouth.

1864
01:33:12,813 --> 01:33:16,013
Speaker 2: Stop I'm just getting hungry and hasation.

1865
01:33:17,333 --> 01:33:20,773
Speaker 7: Finally, just finally, just on the thirsty front, go to

1866
01:33:20,933 --> 01:33:23,213
Speaker 7: Top of the V for the sangria menu. I don't

1867
01:33:23,213 --> 01:33:26,613
Speaker 7: think I've had better sangria than at this place, and

1868
01:33:26,813 --> 01:33:29,453
Speaker 7: you could just settle in for a long night well

1869
01:33:29,493 --> 01:33:32,133
Speaker 7: past to Mickey's bedtime to bring this angria.

1870
01:33:32,293 --> 01:33:33,213
Speaker 4: It's just so good.

1871
01:33:33,933 --> 01:33:37,613
Speaker 2: Are you home eating salads and like protein for a

1872
01:33:37,653 --> 01:33:43,013
Speaker 2: week or two? Hello, very quickly about being home. Final

1873
01:33:43,133 --> 01:33:45,853
Speaker 2: day of the christ Church a MP show. It's big

1874
01:33:45,893 --> 01:33:47,813
Speaker 2: week for Christis this week, and I know that the

1875
01:33:47,893 --> 01:33:51,453
Speaker 2: show was scaled back, but has it still been popular?

1876
01:33:51,613 --> 01:33:53,373
Speaker 2: Has Christy had along and enjoyed.

1877
01:33:54,173 --> 01:33:56,773
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, virtually every one of my family's been in

1878
01:33:56,773 --> 01:34:00,413
Speaker 7: the last couple of days. And the weather's not been ideal,

1879
01:34:00,693 --> 01:34:03,093
Speaker 7: but that being said, it is going to improve this afternoon.

1880
01:34:03,373 --> 01:34:06,053
Speaker 7: It's been quite showy in Christigs this morning. But yeah,

1881
01:34:06,453 --> 01:34:09,653
Speaker 7: animals and your amusement rides, that wood chopping, the sharing,

1882
01:34:09,733 --> 01:34:13,893
Speaker 7: it's all go at the showgrounds. And yeah, can I

1883
01:34:13,973 --> 01:34:16,133
Speaker 7: read the South holand that really flopped to it in

1884
01:34:16,133 --> 01:34:18,213
Speaker 7: the last couple of days, So definitely check it out today.

1885
01:34:18,413 --> 01:34:20,813
Speaker 2: Great good to hear Mike. Thank you so much for

1886
01:34:20,973 --> 01:34:23,693
Speaker 2: more tips on eating and drinking your way through Anaheim.

1887
01:34:24,373 --> 01:34:25,973
Speaker 2: And Mike has a lot of tips how to do

1888
01:34:26,053 --> 01:34:28,693
Speaker 2: this well. You'll be able to find his article on

1889
01:34:28,813 --> 01:34:31,053
Speaker 2: the website News Talks HEDB dot co dot zed Ford

1890
01:34:31,093 --> 01:34:36,093
Speaker 2: Slash Lifestyle Forward slash Travel Sports Next twenty five past eleven.

1891
01:34:39,453 --> 01:34:43,373
Speaker 1: Getting your Weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

1892
01:34:43,853 --> 01:34:44,893
Speaker 1: on News TALKSB.

1893
01:35:00,253 --> 01:35:01,933
Speaker 2: This is sounding a little bit like you. This is

1894
01:35:02,053 --> 01:35:04,613
Speaker 2: Jack White. You got me searching then you will be

1895
01:35:04,813 --> 01:35:07,973
Speaker 2: thrilled to hear. But he's decided to pop in and

1896
01:35:08,413 --> 01:35:10,693
Speaker 2: play a gig in Auckland Town Hall this December. So

1897
01:35:10,733 --> 01:35:13,573
Speaker 2: he's currently on a world tour, it's the No Name

1898
01:35:13,653 --> 01:35:17,013
Speaker 2: Tour twenty twenty four. He was coming to Australia and

1899
01:35:17,093 --> 01:35:19,973
Speaker 2: playing some gigs there and he's going, oh, look I'm

1900
01:35:20,093 --> 01:35:23,933
Speaker 2: so close. It would be rude not to which it would.

1901
01:35:24,373 --> 01:35:26,333
Speaker 2: So he is extending his world tour to Cove of

1902
01:35:26,373 --> 01:35:29,333
Speaker 2: New Zealand. So he's heating here and he's going to

1903
01:35:29,373 --> 01:35:32,213
Speaker 2: do a few more gigs as well in Australia just

1904
01:35:32,293 --> 01:35:34,573
Speaker 2: to entertain us all. What's very kind of them. So Tuesday,

1905
01:35:34,573 --> 01:35:37,533
Speaker 2: the seventeenth December, he's going to be playing Auckland Town

1906
01:35:37,613 --> 01:35:40,973
Speaker 2: Hall right coming up at midday Jason Pine with Weekend

1907
01:35:41,053 --> 01:35:43,893
Speaker 2: Sport and he's with me, now, good morning, good morning.

1908
01:35:44,293 --> 01:35:47,573
Speaker 2: I don't know where I'm at. It's a Saturday, honestly

1909
01:35:47,653 --> 01:35:50,693
Speaker 2: that way. Obviously, I'm normally here on a Sunday, and

1910
01:35:50,813 --> 01:35:53,213
Speaker 2: on a Saturday morning, normally the alarm goes off nice

1911
01:35:53,253 --> 01:35:54,533
Speaker 2: and early, and I go off and I do a

1912
01:35:54,653 --> 01:35:57,093
Speaker 2: nice long run or walk and get all my exercise done.

1913
01:35:57,093 --> 01:35:59,733
Speaker 2: And the alarm went off this morning, and I went, oh,

1914
01:35:59,853 --> 01:36:02,693
Speaker 2: here on a mint. I've got to do something to that.

1915
01:36:02,773 --> 01:36:04,733
Speaker 2: I don't think. Imagine if I've just gone out and

1916
01:36:04,773 --> 01:36:06,813
Speaker 2: gone walking for an hour or so and then come gone,

1917
01:36:07,053 --> 01:36:10,813
Speaker 2: hold the moldy. I'm supposed to be somewhere. Anyway, I

1918
01:36:10,933 --> 01:36:15,613
Speaker 2: am here. And the All Whites were in Hamilton last

1919
01:36:15,693 --> 01:36:16,293
Speaker 2: night and.

1920
01:36:16,653 --> 01:36:19,813
Speaker 23: Wet Hamilton, very wet Hamilton, isn't it?

1921
01:36:20,493 --> 01:36:24,693
Speaker 2: And probably an expected win over Vanuatu. But looked like

1922
01:36:24,773 --> 01:36:26,213
Speaker 2: a great game and some good entertainment.

1923
01:36:26,573 --> 01:36:29,413
Speaker 23: Yeah, absolutely, Look the All Whites haven't played in Hamilton ever.

1924
01:36:29,613 --> 01:36:31,413
Speaker 23: That is the first time they've ever gone to the tron,

1925
01:36:31,973 --> 01:36:35,173
Speaker 23: so yeah, they certainly stamped their mark there. Look, they're

1926
01:36:35,213 --> 01:36:37,733
Speaker 23: in a situation, the All Whites where they are clearly

1927
01:36:37,773 --> 01:36:40,773
Speaker 23: the best team in Oceania. They're the big fish in

1928
01:36:40,813 --> 01:36:43,813
Speaker 23: a pretty small footballing pond. So when you play against

1929
01:36:43,853 --> 01:36:46,173
Speaker 23: these teams, really all you can do is go out

1930
01:36:46,173 --> 01:36:47,973
Speaker 23: there and try and win and win well. And I

1931
01:36:48,053 --> 01:36:49,813
Speaker 23: was really impressed by the way they went about their

1932
01:36:49,853 --> 01:36:52,213
Speaker 23: work last night. It was one all for a while

1933
01:36:52,493 --> 01:36:54,173
Speaker 23: and you started to wonder, is this going to be

1934
01:36:54,733 --> 01:36:57,293
Speaker 23: one of those where they kind of battle and scratch

1935
01:36:57,333 --> 01:36:58,653
Speaker 23: along a little bit to a two to one or

1936
01:36:58,653 --> 01:37:00,133
Speaker 23: a three one. But you know, once they got their

1937
01:37:00,213 --> 01:37:02,893
Speaker 23: noses in front, they kind of stretched out. So yeah, no, good,

1938
01:37:03,173 --> 01:37:05,613
Speaker 23: good result for the All Whites. They play some more

1939
01:37:05,853 --> 01:37:09,573
Speaker 23: at Mounts on Monday night. Then in March of next

1940
01:37:09,653 --> 01:37:14,173
Speaker 23: year they play Semis and a final with a ticket

1941
01:37:14,213 --> 01:37:16,133
Speaker 23: to the next World Cup on the line. So look,

1942
01:37:16,173 --> 01:37:18,573
Speaker 23: they're looking very good at the moment to qualify for

1943
01:37:18,613 --> 01:37:20,173
Speaker 23: the next Football World Cup in a couple of years.

1944
01:37:22,013 --> 01:37:27,213
Speaker 2: I am going to guess what you Okay, I reckon,

1945
01:37:27,213 --> 01:37:28,413
Speaker 2: You're going to tell me that the A is going

1946
01:37:28,453 --> 01:37:29,133
Speaker 2: to beat France tomorrow.

1947
01:37:29,573 --> 01:37:32,653
Speaker 23: Yes, yes, that's what That's what I will tell you.

1948
01:37:32,813 --> 01:37:35,573
Speaker 2: Yes, But don't you think because I know that you

1949
01:37:35,693 --> 01:37:38,653
Speaker 2: like to go on your gat yes I do, But

1950
01:37:38,733 --> 01:37:44,373
Speaker 2: don't you suppose your extensive sporting knowledge combine the two

1951
01:37:44,533 --> 01:37:46,853
Speaker 2: and look, I think probably on paper the odds are even.

1952
01:37:47,013 --> 01:37:48,733
Speaker 2: But I just have a feeling that the All Blacks

1953
01:37:48,773 --> 01:37:51,173
Speaker 2: are just discovering that old belief in the fact that

1954
01:37:51,213 --> 01:37:53,253
Speaker 2: they can play any minutes and anything can happen, and

1955
01:37:53,333 --> 01:37:54,453
Speaker 2: I just feel like we're off.

1956
01:37:55,053 --> 01:37:55,213
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1957
01:37:55,373 --> 01:37:56,973
Speaker 23: The funny thing is, I think at the start of

1958
01:37:57,013 --> 01:37:59,933
Speaker 23: this tour people, I think most people and I'll include

1959
01:37:59,933 --> 01:38:01,973
Speaker 23: myself on the slot. Okay, if we can win two

1960
01:38:02,053 --> 01:38:05,373
Speaker 23: of the three against England Island France, that's a pretty

1961
01:38:05,373 --> 01:38:07,853
Speaker 23: good result, right, And we've got two. We've got the

1962
01:38:07,893 --> 01:38:10,053
Speaker 23: two wins, so it's almost like a free hit tomorrow morning.

1963
01:38:10,093 --> 01:38:12,213
Speaker 23: But having said that, I'd be disappointed now if we

1964
01:38:12,293 --> 01:38:12,813
Speaker 23: lost to France.

1965
01:38:14,533 --> 01:38:17,013
Speaker 2: That's just an All Black supporter going, I'll feel, Okay,

1966
01:38:17,093 --> 01:38:18,933
Speaker 2: I'll be able to get up tomorrow if we went

1967
01:38:19,013 --> 01:38:21,493
Speaker 2: two out of three. That's not how they're thinking they will.

1968
01:38:22,333 --> 01:38:24,453
Speaker 23: They're not, No, they're not. They're not thinking that at all.

1969
01:38:24,653 --> 01:38:25,733
Speaker 23: And I think you treat it like a bit of

1970
01:38:25,773 --> 01:38:27,453
Speaker 23: a mini World Cup, don't you like a quarter final,

1971
01:38:27,493 --> 01:38:30,093
Speaker 23: the semi final of finals? So tomorrow is effectively in

1972
01:38:30,173 --> 01:38:33,693
Speaker 23: that scenario as your final. I think France are narrow

1973
01:38:33,813 --> 01:38:36,613
Speaker 23: favorites at the tab. If that's any indication as to

1974
01:38:36,693 --> 01:38:39,413
Speaker 23: how the how the the bookies are thinking about it.

1975
01:38:39,653 --> 01:38:43,013
Speaker 23: Look at again last weekend, Ireland were paying a dollar

1976
01:38:43,093 --> 01:38:45,893
Speaker 23: forty seven and we were two sixty and we know

1977
01:38:46,013 --> 01:38:48,253
Speaker 23: how that panned out. So look, yeah, I'm looking forward

1978
01:38:48,293 --> 01:38:50,693
Speaker 23: to the game tomorrow morning. I'd like these nine o'clock kickoffs.

1979
01:38:51,373 --> 01:38:54,133
Speaker 23: I know that sort of don't cut into yours show.

1980
01:38:56,133 --> 01:38:59,213
Speaker 2: Actually I'm very disappointing, but you know we are the

1981
01:38:59,253 --> 01:39:01,893
Speaker 2: home of sports, so that's fine. I'll I'll just politely

1982
01:39:02,133 --> 01:39:05,333
Speaker 2: and with grace step aside and thank you do it

1983
01:39:05,373 --> 01:39:07,533
Speaker 2: for doing the last that have our of my show tomorrow.

1984
01:39:07,653 --> 01:39:12,493
Speaker 2: They today though, Tim Salvie is announcing he's going to

1985
01:39:12,533 --> 01:39:15,413
Speaker 2: retire from Test cricket at the series against England.

1986
01:39:15,453 --> 01:39:17,053
Speaker 23: You've got him on the show, yep, he's on the

1987
01:39:17,093 --> 01:39:19,493
Speaker 23: sho after one o'clock. Looking forward to chatting to Tim Salley.

1988
01:39:19,933 --> 01:39:22,413
Speaker 23: What a career. You know the numbers and cricket's a

1989
01:39:22,653 --> 01:39:24,973
Speaker 23: game where you can use the numbers to really get

1990
01:39:25,013 --> 01:39:26,933
Speaker 23: an indication of someone's influence on a game. I mean,

1991
01:39:26,973 --> 01:39:30,853
Speaker 23: across seventeen summers, you know, three hundred and eighty five

1992
01:39:30,933 --> 01:39:33,293
Speaker 23: test workts, second only to Sir Richard Hadley. He's got

1993
01:39:33,293 --> 01:39:35,973
Speaker 23: another three hundred and eighty five incredibles exactly the same

1994
01:39:36,053 --> 01:39:39,173
Speaker 23: number with the white ball, seven hundred and seventy all up,

1995
01:39:39,213 --> 01:39:41,453
Speaker 23: that's the most by anybody by quite some distance for

1996
01:39:41,573 --> 01:39:42,093
Speaker 23: New Zealand.

1997
01:39:42,373 --> 01:39:43,013
Speaker 2: Lots of other.

1998
01:39:42,933 --> 01:39:45,693
Speaker 23: Stats as well, milestones. How do you come to these

1999
01:39:45,733 --> 01:39:48,253
Speaker 23: decisions though? How do you decide? Okay on you know,

2000
01:39:48,573 --> 01:39:51,013
Speaker 23: this is it apart from your body perhaps telling you.

2001
01:39:51,133 --> 01:39:55,133
Speaker 23: But across seventeen summers he's remained relatively injury free. He's

2002
01:39:55,173 --> 01:39:58,173
Speaker 23: really looked after himself. Probably could go on if he

2003
01:39:58,253 --> 01:40:00,933
Speaker 23: wanted to. So, yeah, I'll have a I'll ask that question,

2004
01:40:01,053 --> 01:40:02,773
Speaker 23: and a few others I think of Tim Southey, yeah,

2005
01:40:02,773 --> 01:40:04,973
Speaker 23: he's on the show after one o'clock and what else

2006
01:40:05,013 --> 01:40:07,373
Speaker 23: on the show the rug Obviously we're going to go

2007
01:40:07,413 --> 01:40:09,773
Speaker 23: to France and preview this test match tomorrow morning, and

2008
01:40:09,933 --> 01:40:12,733
Speaker 23: World Rugby has a brand new chair for the first time.

2009
01:40:12,893 --> 01:40:14,173
Speaker 2: He is from the Southern Hemisphere.

2010
01:40:14,293 --> 01:40:19,253
Speaker 23: Yes, Brett Robinson, doctor Brett Robinson, former Wallaby clinician and

2011
01:40:19,413 --> 01:40:21,973
Speaker 23: now chair of World Rugby. He's going to yarn to

2012
01:40:22,053 --> 01:40:22,773
Speaker 23: us after two o'clock.

2013
01:40:22,773 --> 01:40:24,293
Speaker 2: Oh, it's going to be interesting to hear from him.

2014
01:40:24,533 --> 01:40:26,613
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Jason, enjoy doing my show. Tomorrow,

2015
01:40:26,893 --> 01:40:30,213
Speaker 2: Oh will thanks for that. Jason Pine will be back

2016
01:40:30,253 --> 01:40:32,813
Speaker 2: with you with the Weekend Sport at midday. You think

2017
01:40:32,813 --> 01:40:34,453
Speaker 2: I was confused getting up this morning? Why not? What's

2018
01:40:34,453 --> 01:40:36,333
Speaker 2: gonna happen tomorrow Morning'll probably get up and come in here.

2019
01:40:36,453 --> 01:40:40,533
Speaker 2: There'll be Rugby on a Nightmare. Twenty five to twelve

2020
01:40:40,693 --> 01:40:41,293
Speaker 2: News TALKSB.

2021
01:40:41,653 --> 01:40:42,653
Speaker 9: No better way to kick.

2022
01:40:42,533 --> 01:40:44,253
Speaker 4: Off your weekend than with Jack.

2023
01:40:44,413 --> 01:40:48,053
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack, Tay and bepurured on codet ZD

2024
01:40:48,173 --> 01:40:50,573
Speaker 1: for high quality supplements Used Talks MB.

2025
01:40:51,053 --> 01:40:53,653
Speaker 2: Catherine Rains is with us now to talk books, and Catherine,

2026
01:40:53,653 --> 01:40:55,813
Speaker 2: You've got a couple of New Zealand authors for us

2027
01:40:55,853 --> 01:40:59,573
Speaker 2: this morning. Good morning, good morning, how are you good?

2028
01:40:59,693 --> 01:41:03,253
Speaker 2: Thank you? A new book by Nicki Palegrino, who I

2029
01:41:03,453 --> 01:41:06,693
Speaker 2: know has many many fans she.

2030
01:41:06,773 --> 01:41:09,293
Speaker 14: Does, and this is actually her fifteenth novel and her

2031
01:41:09,333 --> 01:41:11,493
Speaker 14: books are often said in Italy because it's a place

2032
01:41:11,573 --> 01:41:14,653
Speaker 14: that is familiar to her from her childhood. And in

2033
01:41:14,733 --> 01:41:17,373
Speaker 14: this one there's two characters, Sky and Anna, and they

2034
01:41:17,453 --> 01:41:19,853
Speaker 14: seem like they actually have nothing in common. So Sky's

2035
01:41:20,373 --> 01:41:23,413
Speaker 14: a cake maker and the Cotswolds with a young family,

2036
01:41:23,573 --> 01:41:26,693
Speaker 14: and is this very successful editor of a best selling

2037
01:41:26,893 --> 01:41:30,893
Speaker 14: food magazine called Culinaire, and her whole life and her

2038
01:41:31,093 --> 01:41:33,773
Speaker 14: world is reflected in this magazine when all of a

2039
01:41:33,773 --> 01:41:35,693
Speaker 14: sudden they decide to close the doors of it, and

2040
01:41:35,853 --> 01:41:40,493
Speaker 14: she has no idea what to do next, and for

2041
01:41:40,653 --> 01:41:43,493
Speaker 14: both of them, for both characters, for Anna and Sky,

2042
01:41:43,733 --> 01:41:46,373
Speaker 14: all of a sudden their world's change, and Sky's pulled

2043
01:41:46,413 --> 01:41:50,413
Speaker 14: into this all expenses paid Italian wedding competition with her

2044
01:41:50,493 --> 01:41:53,213
Speaker 14: partner Tim, but he's actually fraudulently entered them in it,

2045
01:41:53,493 --> 01:41:56,413
Speaker 14: and actually she's not really quite sure terribly if she

2046
01:41:56,453 --> 01:41:59,093
Speaker 14: wants to marry him anymore after many years. And so

2047
01:41:59,173 --> 01:42:02,133
Speaker 14: they both start on this path which ends up taking

2048
01:42:02,173 --> 01:42:04,853
Speaker 14: them to the Italy and this beautiful town of Montanello,

2049
01:42:05,293 --> 01:42:07,493
Speaker 14: And so you get this beautiful descriptions of the Italian

2050
01:42:07,813 --> 01:42:10,933
Speaker 14: countryside and of course the mouthwater and food and and

2051
01:42:10,973 --> 01:42:14,133
Speaker 14: there's Fabinoust residence that you meet there. There's an older

2052
01:42:14,213 --> 01:42:16,253
Speaker 14: man who you would just love to pull up and

2053
01:42:16,853 --> 01:42:19,293
Speaker 14: a chair and a coffee in the glorious sunshine and

2054
01:42:19,373 --> 01:42:22,693
Speaker 14: the piazza and solve all your problems with And it's yeah,

2055
01:42:22,813 --> 01:42:27,053
Speaker 14: the novel's perfect escapism really for an afternoon read. And yeah,

2056
01:42:27,253 --> 01:42:30,453
Speaker 14: I love that invoking of the Italian countryside.

2057
01:42:30,653 --> 01:42:32,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, she does that so well. It sounds like if

2058
01:42:32,413 --> 01:42:34,653
Speaker 2: you've if you've enjoyed Nikki Pellagrano's Box in the past,

2059
01:42:34,693 --> 01:42:37,133
Speaker 2: this is going to very much the tick the box,

2060
01:42:37,733 --> 01:42:41,413
Speaker 2: I think, so okay, Rose Carlyle, she released her first

2061
01:42:41,453 --> 01:42:44,013
Speaker 2: novel was called The Girl in the Mirror, which was

2062
01:42:44,293 --> 01:42:46,773
Speaker 2: just fabulous, and she's back with her second novel.

2063
01:42:47,573 --> 01:42:48,773
Speaker 14: Actually this is her third one.

2064
01:42:48,813 --> 01:42:49,653
Speaker 9: What is it third?

2065
01:42:49,973 --> 01:42:50,013
Speaker 6: No?

2066
01:42:50,213 --> 01:42:52,293
Speaker 14: No, no, sorry, no, no, this is her second one.

2067
01:42:52,373 --> 01:42:56,373
Speaker 2: Sorry, no, my mistake. No, she has she's been busier

2068
01:42:56,413 --> 01:42:58,813
Speaker 2: than I thought she had been. Care for them out.

2069
01:43:00,013 --> 01:43:04,933
Speaker 14: No, but this storyline in here is is quite twisted

2070
01:43:05,013 --> 01:43:08,133
Speaker 14: and a little bit unhinged and has this very weird

2071
01:43:08,253 --> 01:43:12,293
Speaker 14: and unguessable plot, and the characters are completely unlikable and

2072
01:43:12,613 --> 01:43:16,013
Speaker 14: there's lots of flair and over the top event so

2073
01:43:16,093 --> 01:43:18,133
Speaker 14: you do have to suspend a little bit of disbelief

2074
01:43:18,213 --> 01:43:21,253
Speaker 14: when you're reading it, because this wouldn't quite a not

2075
01:43:21,373 --> 01:43:24,693
Speaker 14: sural play out life. But the story is based around Eve,

2076
01:43:24,773 --> 01:43:28,133
Speaker 14: who finds herself alone and pregnant after tragedy strikes with

2077
01:43:28,213 --> 01:43:30,893
Speaker 14: the death of her boyfriend, and she's introduced to this

2078
01:43:31,413 --> 01:43:33,853
Speaker 14: couple the highgates, and they're very wealthy, and they make

2079
01:43:33,893 --> 01:43:38,293
Speaker 14: her an offer effectively that she can't refuse. And she's

2080
01:43:38,493 --> 01:43:41,293
Speaker 14: really desperate because she'd been sailing the Pacific for six months,

2081
01:43:41,333 --> 01:43:43,733
Speaker 14: and as I said, she's found herself pregnant and alone

2082
01:43:43,773 --> 01:43:47,853
Speaker 14: and penniless, and his wealthy parents don't want anything to

2083
01:43:47,933 --> 01:43:51,173
Speaker 14: do with her or their grandchild. So she's really desperate

2084
01:43:51,333 --> 01:43:54,973
Speaker 14: and naivety and this couple look like they're perfect, and

2085
01:43:55,693 --> 01:43:59,173
Speaker 14: she agrees to move to this remote island hidden away

2086
01:43:59,413 --> 01:44:02,653
Speaker 14: in Tasmania and a sworn to secrecy and can't tell

2087
01:44:02,653 --> 01:44:05,413
Speaker 14: anybody where she's gone. And so you get this backdrop

2088
01:44:05,493 --> 01:44:08,653
Speaker 14: of this very creepy remote island and the stream of

2089
01:44:08,733 --> 01:44:12,853
Speaker 14: sequence and wealth like you wouldn't believe. And so a

2090
01:44:12,933 --> 01:44:15,333
Speaker 14: real novel of suspense and if I tell you too

2091
01:44:15,413 --> 01:44:17,573
Speaker 14: much more destroying, you can't.

2092
01:44:18,893 --> 01:44:19,693
Speaker 2: The storyline.

2093
01:44:19,733 --> 01:44:22,413
Speaker 14: But yeah, lots of consequences and greed and lies and

2094
01:44:22,573 --> 01:44:25,573
Speaker 14: factial mistakes and yeah, like I said, a little bit

2095
01:44:25,653 --> 01:44:29,493
Speaker 14: unhinged and quite invisible, but yeah, it's very well put together.

2096
01:44:29,613 --> 01:44:32,773
Speaker 2: I think Rhodes creates writes books that would make I

2097
01:44:32,813 --> 01:44:35,653
Speaker 2: can sort of see them as fantastic TV series or

2098
01:44:35,813 --> 01:44:38,173
Speaker 2: movies and I'm really pleased to see that she's talking

2099
01:44:38,253 --> 01:44:40,693
Speaker 2: about sailing again, because I know i've I'm pretty sure

2100
01:44:40,733 --> 01:44:44,573
Speaker 2: I remember from interviewing her, Catherine, that she's done a

2101
01:44:44,613 --> 01:44:47,333
Speaker 2: lot of sailing and sailed I think with her family

2102
01:44:47,453 --> 01:44:49,533
Speaker 2: from Thailand to South Africa or something. And it's done

2103
01:44:49,533 --> 01:44:51,333
Speaker 2: a bit in the seven type of guidance. And she

2104
01:44:51,453 --> 01:44:53,893
Speaker 2: does capture that feeling of being in the middle of

2105
01:44:53,973 --> 01:44:55,533
Speaker 2: nowhere on a boat very very well.

2106
01:44:56,293 --> 01:44:56,813
Speaker 10: Yeah, she does.

2107
01:44:56,853 --> 01:44:59,093
Speaker 14: That isolation in the story makes a lot of sense

2108
01:44:59,093 --> 01:45:00,373
Speaker 14: if you've been out in the middle of nowhere on

2109
01:45:00,413 --> 01:45:03,373
Speaker 14: a boat. She catches that isolation extremely well.

2110
01:45:03,493 --> 01:45:07,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, you sense this, and yeah, that's exactly, very well done. Yeah,

2111
01:45:07,893 --> 01:45:10,813
Speaker 2: exactly nicely said, Thank you so much, Catherine. The two

2112
01:45:10,853 --> 01:45:13,773
Speaker 2: books that Catherine spoke about today Marry Me in Italy

2113
01:45:14,173 --> 01:45:17,893
Speaker 2: by Nicki Palagrino and No One Will Know by Rose

2114
01:45:18,093 --> 01:45:20,053
Speaker 2: Carlyle Right Birthday Girl.

2115
01:45:20,573 --> 01:45:20,813
Speaker 10: Stelle.

2116
01:45:20,853 --> 01:45:23,453
Speaker 2: Clifford is with us next year with the news talks.

2117
01:45:23,453 --> 01:45:23,733
Speaker 2: He'd be.

2118
01:45:25,533 --> 01:45:28,613
Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for Jack to him,

2119
01:45:28,893 --> 01:45:32,333
Speaker 1: keeping the conversation going through the weekend with be Pure

2120
01:45:32,653 --> 01:45:35,653
Speaker 1: Policy Supplements for Essential Energy News Talk, said be.

2121
01:45:37,333 --> 01:45:55,773
Speaker 9: Sky Sky Call Quality.

2122
01:46:11,253 --> 01:46:14,093
Speaker 2: So this is going to be bringing back some fabulous memories,

2123
01:46:14,173 --> 01:46:17,213
Speaker 2: hopefully for those of you who have already seen Coldplane,

2124
01:46:17,253 --> 01:46:19,853
Speaker 2: getting the rest of you very excited about the concert

2125
01:46:19,893 --> 01:46:22,573
Speaker 2: tonight if you were fortunate enough to be going to Eden.

2126
01:46:22,693 --> 01:46:27,013
Speaker 2: Park Is Steal. Clifford celebrated her birthday last night at

2127
01:46:27,093 --> 01:46:30,093
Speaker 2: coldplaye and she joins me, now, good morning, hello.

2128
01:46:30,493 --> 01:46:32,693
Speaker 22: I mean, if you're gonna have a birthday party put

2129
01:46:32,733 --> 01:46:35,693
Speaker 22: on for you, why not with fifty seven thousand other people?

2130
01:46:35,893 --> 01:46:36,053
Speaker 9: Right?

2131
01:46:36,333 --> 01:46:39,933
Speaker 2: Firstly, happy birthday, Happy Hey. I'm sure that you know

2132
01:46:40,093 --> 01:46:42,213
Speaker 2: you like the birthday to take the whole weekend, the

2133
01:46:42,533 --> 01:46:45,693
Speaker 2: happy birthday weekend, Thank you, okay.

2134
01:46:45,893 --> 01:46:49,573
Speaker 22: And what a spectacular night. I accidentally got tickets from

2135
01:46:49,653 --> 01:46:51,693
Speaker 22: some friends selling some tickets on so it was a

2136
01:46:51,853 --> 01:46:54,933
Speaker 22: very last minute thing for me, but it felt like

2137
01:46:55,053 --> 01:46:57,173
Speaker 22: it was just supposed to be. I took my five

2138
01:46:57,293 --> 01:47:01,213
Speaker 22: year old and can I just say, if you're going

2139
01:47:01,293 --> 01:47:03,893
Speaker 22: to do that, make sure you tether yourselves together with

2140
01:47:03,973 --> 01:47:09,053
Speaker 22: a risen yes. And then imagine sky full of Stars,

2141
01:47:09,173 --> 01:47:11,893
Speaker 22: which is my daughter Ava's favorite song because it's on

2142
01:47:12,013 --> 01:47:15,773
Speaker 22: sing Too, and Chris Martin is like, she feels like

2143
01:47:15,853 --> 01:47:17,693
Speaker 22: he's looking at her. Her arms are in the air

2144
01:47:17,773 --> 01:47:21,973
Speaker 22: with a light up led band. They catapult star confetti

2145
01:47:22,093 --> 01:47:25,893
Speaker 22: into the sky like it just it's like it was

2146
01:47:25,973 --> 01:47:28,133
Speaker 22: so magic. And the thing was is the whole concert

2147
01:47:28,293 --> 01:47:30,853
Speaker 22: was like that, Like you didn't have to wait until

2148
01:47:30,933 --> 01:47:32,373
Speaker 22: you know how usually near the end is when all

2149
01:47:32,373 --> 01:47:34,213
Speaker 22: the fireworks and the confetti.

2150
01:47:34,053 --> 01:47:36,853
Speaker 2: And they fire them off left.

2151
01:47:36,773 --> 01:47:38,453
Speaker 21: Right, that's right.

2152
01:47:38,613 --> 01:47:41,533
Speaker 22: Like it's just a cacophony of sound and magic and

2153
01:47:41,653 --> 01:47:44,973
Speaker 22: color the whole entire time. I do want to say

2154
01:47:45,093 --> 01:47:47,653
Speaker 22: Chris Martin and the band, they have some amazing kicks.

2155
01:47:47,693 --> 01:47:51,133
Speaker 22: Their shoes were incredible. I'm a shoe girl, so noticed

2156
01:47:51,133 --> 01:47:54,253
Speaker 22: all the color there. Thank you very much. But singing

2157
01:47:54,333 --> 01:47:56,813
Speaker 22: those songs and the big tunes too, you know, like

2158
01:47:57,173 --> 01:48:00,413
Speaker 22: these guys have got a massive back catalog or their

2159
01:48:00,493 --> 01:48:02,573
Speaker 22: new albums that they've had out. How to mix that

2160
01:48:02,733 --> 01:48:07,373
Speaker 22: with them songs like Yellow Fix you like still willing

2161
01:48:07,453 --> 01:48:09,653
Speaker 22: to do the classics and I think they just went

2162
01:48:09,773 --> 01:48:13,733
Speaker 22: you know, the theme of this whole concert is just

2163
01:48:14,133 --> 01:48:19,933
Speaker 22: idleha good vibes, unity and very festival but real inclusive.

2164
01:48:20,093 --> 01:48:22,053
Speaker 22: And I I mean, you know, like I wouldn't necessarily

2165
01:48:22,093 --> 01:48:23,653
Speaker 22: always choose to go to a concert with a five

2166
01:48:23,733 --> 01:48:26,973
Speaker 22: year old, but what a medical experience.

2167
01:48:27,733 --> 01:48:30,693
Speaker 2: I think my son was eight, I think, and I

2168
01:48:30,813 --> 01:48:32,933
Speaker 2: took her to Taylor Swift and that was the big

2169
01:48:33,213 --> 01:48:37,573
Speaker 2: first concert aside from you know, seeing the Wiggles and

2170
01:48:37,573 --> 01:48:39,613
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, I think that was. And

2171
01:48:39,733 --> 01:48:42,213
Speaker 2: the key thing. The other thing you do Estala is

2172
01:48:42,253 --> 01:48:44,053
Speaker 2: not just paying yourself together, but get the old Vivid

2173
01:48:44,093 --> 01:48:46,413
Speaker 2: out and you write your cell phone numbers down the art.

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01:48:46,573 --> 01:48:49,173
Speaker 10: Yes, absolutely, yeah, gigs.

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01:48:48,893 --> 01:48:51,533
Speaker 2: And airports we used to do that. And then finally,

2176
01:48:51,653 --> 01:48:53,973
Speaker 2: I think my kids are quite old moment. Seriously, we

2177
01:48:54,093 --> 01:48:56,573
Speaker 2: can remember with your phone number. You do not need

2178
01:48:56,653 --> 01:48:59,613
Speaker 2: to put Vivid all over me as they walk from airports.

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01:48:59,893 --> 01:49:00,373
Speaker 9: I love that.

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01:49:00,413 --> 01:49:03,413
Speaker 22: And really, you know, the thing about seeing anyone live

2181
01:49:03,573 --> 01:49:05,493
Speaker 22: is you have a new respect for them, don't you

2182
01:49:05,533 --> 01:49:07,933
Speaker 22: because you see that talents Chris Martin. One minute he's

2183
01:49:07,933 --> 01:49:10,413
Speaker 22: singing and dancing, then he's on the piano, then he's

2184
01:49:10,453 --> 01:49:13,253
Speaker 22: on a guitar, then he's interacting with all the signs

2185
01:49:13,293 --> 01:49:16,173
Speaker 22: and people in the audience. That's a lot the energy

2186
01:49:16,293 --> 01:49:18,533
Speaker 22: that he propels out and the rest of the band,

2187
01:49:19,053 --> 01:49:21,013
Speaker 22: and then to see this whole crowd kind of give

2188
01:49:21,053 --> 01:49:23,653
Speaker 22: their energy back when the balloons went up in the air.

2189
01:49:23,893 --> 01:49:26,093
Speaker 22: My daughter and I were down on the energy stages

2190
01:49:26,253 --> 01:49:28,773
Speaker 22: and they charged the batteries that helped run the shows.

2191
01:49:29,773 --> 01:49:32,013
Speaker 22: And my daughter saw those and she's like, we're off.

2192
01:49:32,613 --> 01:49:35,613
Speaker 22: You're like, okay, yes we are. Mother dragged behind child

2193
01:49:35,693 --> 01:49:38,293
Speaker 22: with a ribbon attached around her wrists, and people in

2194
01:49:38,373 --> 01:49:40,653
Speaker 22: the audience are like chucking her the balloon so she

2195
01:49:40,693 --> 01:49:41,413
Speaker 22: can throw them.

2196
01:49:41,333 --> 01:49:44,493
Speaker 2: In the air like this wonderful. Yeah, it's a clue

2197
01:49:44,533 --> 01:49:44,893
Speaker 2: that you can.

2198
01:49:44,853 --> 01:49:46,733
Speaker 22: Release you in a child, but even more so if

2199
01:49:46,773 --> 01:49:48,013
Speaker 22: you are there with young kids.

2200
01:49:48,053 --> 01:49:48,893
Speaker 2: And it just was magic.

2201
01:49:48,933 --> 01:49:50,493
Speaker 22: I mean there were times when I was like, hang on,

2202
01:49:50,573 --> 01:49:53,493
Speaker 22: what songs playing? Because we were so busy chasing or

2203
01:49:53,573 --> 01:49:57,133
Speaker 22: interacting or running around. Yeah, I feel like I've had

2204
01:49:57,173 --> 01:49:58,413
Speaker 22: a very very big workout.

2205
01:49:58,493 --> 01:49:59,373
Speaker 2: I'm quite quious.

2206
01:49:59,933 --> 01:50:03,493
Speaker 22: But the water place to let it go, you know. Yeah,

2207
01:50:03,613 --> 01:50:05,893
Speaker 22: And to see here those songs played love. I haven't

2208
01:50:05,893 --> 01:50:07,133
Speaker 22: seen cold Play live before?

2209
01:50:07,213 --> 01:50:07,893
Speaker 13: Have you seen that?

2210
01:50:08,333 --> 01:50:11,413
Speaker 2: I have seen them three times, so I gave this

2211
01:50:11,533 --> 01:50:14,773
Speaker 2: one a miss. But I'll tell you what I don't think.

2212
01:50:15,413 --> 01:50:17,093
Speaker 2: And we had Chris Schultz on this morning. He was

2213
01:50:17,133 --> 01:50:18,853
Speaker 2: talking about films and he'd been last night and he

2214
01:50:18,893 --> 01:50:23,013
Speaker 2: said he's a very experienced, slightly jaded Consio and he

2215
01:50:23,053 --> 01:50:25,373
Speaker 2: said to me he felt it a little bit schmoltzy

2216
01:50:25,533 --> 01:50:27,853
Speaker 2: and a little bit everything on que and a bit

2217
01:50:28,213 --> 01:50:31,333
Speaker 2: yeah practiced and things like that. And I said to him, Yeah,

2218
01:50:31,373 --> 01:50:33,213
Speaker 2: but you know what, that's what you want. You went

2219
01:50:33,413 --> 01:50:36,533
Speaker 2: and had a magical night, and that's what you got.

2220
01:50:36,653 --> 01:50:38,813
Speaker 2: Bang for your buck, You've got your confetti, your fireworks,

2221
01:50:38,853 --> 01:50:41,373
Speaker 2: you've got everything. You've got your favorite songs. I like

2222
01:50:41,453 --> 01:50:43,533
Speaker 2: a band that is prepared to go back and play

2223
01:50:43,573 --> 01:50:47,413
Speaker 2: the songs for the fifty millionth time and because that's

2224
01:50:47,533 --> 01:50:51,453
Speaker 2: actually what they know the audience wants. So I saw

2225
01:50:51,533 --> 01:50:55,013
Speaker 2: them first in two thousand and one. They came out

2226
01:50:55,093 --> 01:50:57,773
Speaker 2: for big day out Estelle. You're too young to remember this,

2227
01:50:58,413 --> 01:51:01,613
Speaker 2: and the record company said too. I was working in

2228
01:51:01,693 --> 01:51:03,733
Speaker 2: music TV and the record company said, Hey, we're doing

2229
01:51:03,773 --> 01:51:06,893
Speaker 2: this small private show at Galatos, which is a sort

2230
01:51:06,893 --> 01:51:08,973
Speaker 2: of a very small venue in k Road with this

2231
01:51:09,093 --> 01:51:10,733
Speaker 2: tiny little stage, and they said, you've got to come

2232
01:51:10,773 --> 01:51:12,253
Speaker 2: and see this band. They're called Cold Playing. They're going

2233
01:51:12,293 --> 01:51:14,453
Speaker 2: to be the next biggest band in the world, right right,

2234
01:51:14,493 --> 01:51:16,333
Speaker 2: We'll come for a bad oh, So you go along.

2235
01:51:16,893 --> 01:51:19,373
Speaker 2: And they came out on stage and Chris Martin was

2236
01:51:19,373 --> 01:51:21,573
Speaker 2: wearing a yellow T shirt, I think brown pants and

2237
01:51:21,613 --> 01:51:24,053
Speaker 2: bare feet. They played a couple of songs, so this

2238
01:51:24,213 --> 01:51:27,813
Speaker 2: was the album Parachutes, you know, Spies, Yellow Shiver, Trouble,

2239
01:51:28,253 --> 01:51:29,853
Speaker 2: and then he played a couple of songs on his

2240
01:51:29,933 --> 01:51:33,453
Speaker 2: own and the root that The feel in the room

2241
01:51:34,093 --> 01:51:35,973
Speaker 2: just changed. And at one point there was a guy

2242
01:51:36,053 --> 01:51:37,453
Speaker 2: standing next to me. He turned me, he went, what

2243
01:51:37,533 --> 01:51:40,213
Speaker 2: was going on? He was looking around the room. Every

2244
01:51:40,413 --> 01:51:42,333
Speaker 2: female in that room had just fallen in love with

2245
01:51:42,413 --> 01:51:45,693
Speaker 2: Chris Martins. He sang like he was singing just to you.

2246
01:51:45,973 --> 01:51:48,293
Speaker 2: He didn't have to try hard, just had the charisma,

2247
01:51:48,373 --> 01:51:49,973
Speaker 2: had the voice, had the songs.

2248
01:51:50,093 --> 01:51:53,973
Speaker 22: And actually, and that was to think he played Yellow

2249
01:51:54,093 --> 01:51:55,013
Speaker 22: in a small environment.

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01:51:56,933 --> 01:51:59,133
Speaker 2: It was tiny, and I just think we that gig

2251
01:51:59,213 --> 01:52:01,653
Speaker 2: finished and we all each other went, oh, actually, they

2252
01:52:01,773 --> 01:52:03,813
Speaker 2: may be the next biggest band in the world.

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01:52:03,973 --> 01:52:04,733
Speaker 9: It was phenomenal.

2254
01:52:04,773 --> 01:52:07,173
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. I remember that probably more than

2255
01:52:07,213 --> 01:52:09,053
Speaker 2: I remember the two other gigs I've been to to

2256
01:52:09,053 --> 01:52:10,053
Speaker 2: see them play since.

2257
01:52:10,213 --> 01:52:12,333
Speaker 22: Because that's a magic moment in the starting part of

2258
01:52:12,373 --> 01:52:15,853
Speaker 22: a career, right that actually then catapults somewhere crazy and

2259
01:52:15,973 --> 01:52:17,933
Speaker 22: then to come to huge gigs like this where they're

2260
01:52:17,933 --> 01:52:19,893
Speaker 22: selling out around the world, and you know what, I'm

2261
01:52:19,933 --> 01:52:22,453
Speaker 22: okay with the schmaltz and stuff, because there's enough negativity

2262
01:52:22,493 --> 01:52:24,573
Speaker 22: around in the world. You can go to a place

2263
01:52:24,613 --> 01:52:26,893
Speaker 22: and just escape there for a bit then. And also

2264
01:52:27,053 --> 01:52:29,173
Speaker 22: like it should be a well oiled machine. You know,

2265
01:52:29,213 --> 01:52:31,653
Speaker 22: you've got you've got, you've got pyrotechnics going off all

2266
01:52:31,693 --> 01:52:36,253
Speaker 22: the way, and there's got to be something that's that's

2267
01:52:36,333 --> 01:52:40,173
Speaker 22: rehearsed about there. And I'm okay with that, Like it's

2268
01:52:40,213 --> 01:52:42,013
Speaker 22: okay to be slack, I think, you know. But he's

2269
01:52:42,053 --> 01:52:44,133
Speaker 22: also like you say that charisma.

2270
01:52:44,013 --> 01:52:46,173
Speaker 2: Just doesn't die in him, does it, Like doesn't need

2271
01:52:46,253 --> 01:52:46,493
Speaker 2: to try.

2272
01:52:47,173 --> 01:52:49,653
Speaker 22: Also, even park, Holy moly, first cons that I've come

2273
01:52:49,693 --> 01:52:51,053
Speaker 22: away from and my ears aren't ringing.

2274
01:52:51,533 --> 01:52:52,333
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic.

2275
01:52:53,853 --> 01:52:56,573
Speaker 22: The sounds around the stadium was really great. The people

2276
01:52:56,693 --> 01:53:00,813
Speaker 22: on the ground, security, all the staff like just did

2277
01:53:00,893 --> 01:53:02,933
Speaker 22: a really great job at looking after everybody and getting

2278
01:53:02,933 --> 01:53:04,733
Speaker 22: people to the right places. We turned up on the

2279
01:53:04,773 --> 01:53:07,613
Speaker 22: opposite side of the stadium and some security guy got

2280
01:53:07,653 --> 01:53:10,533
Speaker 22: a renoy onto a cart and we were delivered rounds

2281
01:53:10,533 --> 01:53:11,293
Speaker 22: to the right side.

2282
01:53:13,333 --> 01:53:13,613
Speaker 10: Stelle.

2283
01:53:13,613 --> 01:53:15,533
Speaker 2: Normally we get you to rate an album. If we

2284
01:53:15,613 --> 01:53:17,053
Speaker 2: were going to get you to rate a concert, what

2285
01:53:17,133 --> 01:53:17,653
Speaker 2: would you give it?

2286
01:53:18,053 --> 01:53:19,973
Speaker 22: Oh my gosh, Look, this is really hard because alf

2287
01:53:20,013 --> 01:53:21,893
Speaker 22: and John concerts have always been right at the height

2288
01:53:22,053 --> 01:53:25,413
Speaker 22: of my up there, but this was pretty close. I think,

2289
01:53:25,453 --> 01:53:27,213
Speaker 22: a really magical experience. And if I'm going to go

2290
01:53:27,253 --> 01:53:29,253
Speaker 22: with the mom and daughter thing, I mean, that's not

2291
01:53:29,533 --> 01:53:31,093
Speaker 22: love ifever you're going to get it. So I'm going

2292
01:53:31,133 --> 01:53:32,333
Speaker 22: to have to give it a ten out of ten.

2293
01:53:32,413 --> 01:53:34,493
Speaker 22: I think it was magical to see how beautiful face

2294
01:53:34,573 --> 01:53:35,253
Speaker 22: love that so much.

2295
01:53:35,533 --> 01:53:38,013
Speaker 2: Stelle, rest up, Enjoy the rest of your birthday weekend.

2296
01:53:38,093 --> 01:53:38,813
Speaker 2: I'm good shopping.

2297
01:53:38,853 --> 01:53:39,573
Speaker 14: It's my birthday.

2298
01:53:40,693 --> 01:53:43,613
Speaker 2: Thanks for your time today. That was Estelle. Clifford and

2299
01:53:43,653 --> 01:53:47,413
Speaker 2: will play a little bit more cold Play shortly giving you.

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Speaker 1: The inside scoop on all you need to know. Saturday

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01:53:50,853 --> 01:53:54,413
Speaker 1: Mornings with Francesca Rudgin in for Jack Day and be

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Speaker 1: pure Quality Supplements for essential energy news talks that'd be no.

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01:53:59,133 --> 01:54:03,653
Speaker 2: Estelle's review is bringing back memories. Estelle's review was bang

2304
01:54:03,773 --> 01:54:06,013
Speaker 2: on a text reads a concert to be remembered. More

2305
01:54:06,053 --> 01:54:09,453
Speaker 2: tears in my eyes, tiny texts to say though. He said,

2306
01:54:09,493 --> 01:54:12,453
Speaker 2: funny how people's taste varies. I respect I view and taste,

2307
01:54:12,493 --> 01:54:14,533
Speaker 2: but for me, Eden Park would have been like prison.

2308
01:54:14,933 --> 01:54:18,293
Speaker 2: I have an enormous collection of music, lots of vinyl CDs,

2309
01:54:18,773 --> 01:54:23,253
Speaker 2: digital audio and visual music. I'm so pleased you enjoyed them.

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01:54:23,453 --> 01:54:26,573
Speaker 2: There's nothing like a live gig and Galatos is still going,

2311
01:54:27,733 --> 01:54:30,093
Speaker 2: which yeah it is. I have seen some pretty amazing

2312
01:54:30,093 --> 01:54:32,333
Speaker 2: because that's what used to happen with concerts like the

2313
01:54:32,333 --> 01:54:35,453
Speaker 2: Big Day Out. Often an artist would come in that

2314
01:54:35,573 --> 01:54:38,213
Speaker 2: we didn't know very well, and the record companies would

2315
01:54:38,253 --> 01:54:40,213
Speaker 2: use it as an opportunity to introduce you to them,

2316
01:54:40,373 --> 01:54:42,853
Speaker 2: or you would get a little private they would do

2317
01:54:42,933 --> 01:54:45,213
Speaker 2: a little industry gig like food fighters would do them

2318
01:54:45,213 --> 01:54:46,653
Speaker 2: all the time and things like that. So you get

2319
01:54:46,693 --> 01:54:49,013
Speaker 2: to go and see see these artists who are normally

2320
01:54:49,053 --> 01:54:51,893
Speaker 2: on a mess with stage in this tiny environment. That's

2321
01:54:51,893 --> 01:54:53,973
Speaker 2: when you can pack who the real artists are. Right,

2322
01:54:54,813 --> 01:54:59,853
Speaker 2: fantastic venue. I have some wonderful memories of the Galatos right.

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01:54:59,933 --> 01:55:04,453
Speaker 2: Coming up next, Jason Pine is with you for weekend sport.

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01:55:04,533 --> 01:55:07,933
Speaker 2: Don't forget no Sunday session tomorrow morning, but news Talks

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01:55:07,973 --> 01:55:11,013
Speaker 2: you'd be will of course be bringing you the live

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01:55:11,133 --> 01:55:15,853
Speaker 2: commentary of the All Blacks France game nineteen am kickoff.

2327
01:55:15,973 --> 01:55:18,413
Speaker 2: Jason Pinn will be with you when the game finishes

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01:55:18,493 --> 01:55:21,653
Speaker 2: as well, so I'm sure there will be lots to discuss.

2329
01:55:22,133 --> 01:55:24,653
Speaker 2: Going to leave you with a little bit more coldplay

2330
01:55:24,733 --> 01:55:39,933
Speaker 2: here is Paradise, have a fantastic weekend. Take care, sar Sky.

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Speaker 1: She said, so shsh for more from Saturday Morning with

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01:57:05,293 --> 01:57:08,013
Speaker 1: Jack Tame. Listen live to news talks it'd be from

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