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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 2: get connected.

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Speaker 1: You Stall said, be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, welcome to the show coming up today.

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Speaker 3: Nurses are worried about what's going to happen when police

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Speaker 3: stop attending some mental health callouts from Monday. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: suicide and Dunedin has permission to serve alcohol. We will

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Speaker 3: talk to the woman behind it and we'll get you

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Speaker 3: across the abs with Alliott Smith and the big football clash,

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Speaker 3: I guess you can call it with the boss of the.

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Speaker 1: AFC, Heather Duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: So the Haka drama is back today, isn't it? Because

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Speaker 3: Joe Mahler has now backtracked completely on what he said

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Speaker 3: and has apologized for it, and specifically has apologized to

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Speaker 3: New Zealand fans for in his words, my excuse me,

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Speaker 3: my poorly articulated tweet earlier in the week, I meant

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Speaker 3: no malice, New Zealand. What have you done? Are we

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Speaker 3: honestly that sensitive about the hucker that we can't handle it?

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Speaker 3: When a rugby prop right, not known as the brains

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Speaker 3: a little social media post on x we really can't

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Speaker 3: handle this? What did we do to him? What did

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Speaker 3: we do? Did we bombard him on Twitter? Because I

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Speaker 3: feel like that's what happened here in it. That's why

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Speaker 3: I think that we may have to get a little

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Speaker 3: all Blacks hucker. Yes, it is special to us, and

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Speaker 3: I mean, the rest of the world just has to

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Speaker 3: They let us do the hucker for a start, and

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Speaker 3: then they let us have all these rules about how

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Speaker 3: they can get stuff like that. They try to be respectful,

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Speaker 3: shouldn't be so sensitive about it. So let's be honest

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Speaker 3: about this, right. We do the hucker a lot nowadays

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Speaker 3: because there are a lot of international tests nowadays, and

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Speaker 3: a little bit more gratitude. Heather Duper see Alan nine

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Speaker 3: nine and two is the text number sports huddle obviously

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Speaker 3: with us after holp us fives, we'll have a chat

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Speaker 3: to them about that. Now to something else altogether. A

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Speaker 3: at a crisis level. As Sociate professor of sociology at

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Speaker 3: Canterbury University, Mike Grimshaw believes that we're under educating and overqualifying,

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Speaker 3: how are you very well? Thank you? Why do we

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Speaker 4: I think it's a wider societal issue. It's a question

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Speaker 4: it's also that push that we should have so many

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Speaker 4: people coming to university to gain a degree, and yet

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Speaker 4: how many degree jobs are we actually creating at the

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Speaker 4: of reasons, partly because of what they have left school with,

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Speaker 4: I called it out because there's a lot of discussion

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Speaker 4: wants to have it mentioned that we are one end

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Speaker 4: that's a wider societal issue that there is all the

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Speaker 4: way back. I would say, down to primary school, our

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Speaker 3: Mike, how many graduates areay pumping out every year?

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Speaker 4: I think from the University of New Zealand it's somewhere

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Speaker 3: How many of those do you believe are too many?

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Speaker 4: Well, we're pumping out forty to forty five thousand, ninety

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Speaker 4: seem to be that we are not. And if we are,

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Speaker 4: are we seeing the flow throughs in our economy and

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Speaker 3: So what do we do? I mean, the problem is

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Speaker 3: for jobs that you didn't need degrees for few years ago?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: So my job graduated became a journalist, you had you

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it goes even further back. I mean, really, now,

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying. So how many jobs do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: We actually don't need degrees for, but our employers are

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Speaker 4: No, let's say, well, it depends on the areas and

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Speaker 4: But also what are employers doing? Why do they require

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Speaker 3: So what's the downside of someone like me having a degree,

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Speaker 4: Well, there's no downside if you have come out of

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Speaker 4: you've turned up to lectures. One of our big problems

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, and we have to make material available. And

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Speaker 5: Lost?

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Speaker 3: It's lost? The essence of what a university or what

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Speaker 4: Well, we have and we're not really sure what education

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Speaker 4: the future of universities. And so we know internationally there

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Speaker 3: I think you're onto something here, Mike, thank you very

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Speaker 3: of Sociology, Canterbury University. I mean, it is a thing now,

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Speaker 3: And yet everybody here has a degree. Why God only

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Speaker 3: So when you're in New Zealand, by all means, sit standard,

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Speaker 3: say what the tea kung is. But when you're in England,

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Speaker 2: Who will take the White House Results and analysis of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Let's get connected news Talk.

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Speaker 1: Said be.

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Speaker 2: Sport with the new tap app downloaded today Ri eighteen

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Speaker 3: Darcy water Grove Sports Talk hoasters with me.

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Speaker 7: Hello Dars, Hello Heather.

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Speaker 3: What did Ethan Degroup do?

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Speaker 8: It seems an internal issue, so I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 8: he's constipated.

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Speaker 3: Well, I feel like going for a run for ninety

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Speaker 7: It's none of our business. I'm sure. I kind of

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Speaker 7: like it if they just said.

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Speaker 3: Don't ever say it's none of our business.

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Speaker 8: Well, if they if they said, look what happens he

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Speaker 8: and then suddenly all the discussion goes away because at

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Speaker 7: Did he stay out?

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Speaker 3: Did he break a cref you we've all gone to

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Speaker 7: Did he wear non matching socks? You know? Did he

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Speaker 3: Did he get an uber all the way to the

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Speaker 3: five o'clock at twenty six past four Donald Trump. Now,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is suing CBS for ten billion dollars. He's

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Speaker 3: in about ten minutes time or thereabouts. Heather, my stepfather

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Speaker 10: Be Please please please please, yesday.

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Speaker 3: Barrisota is going to be at less than ten minutes time.

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Speaker 3: Dan Mitchison is standing by out of the US now.

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Speaker 3: On Monday, the police are no longer going you remember,

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Speaker 3: Both US presidential candidates have been campaigning in Nevada today. Now.

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Speaker 7: This country needs it.

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Speaker 4: You mightn't like.

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Speaker 3: The person's face, okay, just say that.

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Speaker 12: Like my teacher, I hated it, but.

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Speaker 2: Good get them International correspondence with ends at Eye Insurance,

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Speaker 3: Racoons Down's Delicious. Dan Mitchinson Aalo, Hello, Heather, So, ho's

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Speaker 14: I think she's I think she's closing in right now.

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Speaker 14: I mean, there's still a lot of questions about this.

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Speaker 14: I mean, can can she make enough ground in the

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Speaker 14: state and the other half dozen key battleground states.

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Speaker 5: How long is this going to take? Two once?

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Speaker 14: I mean the next time that we talk, most of

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Speaker 14: the polls next week will have closed. Across the US

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Speaker 14: Here in the Pacific, they'll still be open for about

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Speaker 14: another half hour, but we may not know who has

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Speaker 14: has won the presidential race till the next day or

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Speaker 14: maybe even forty eight hours after this, and then of

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Speaker 14: course it could be contested.

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Speaker 3: Dan listen, I want to know why the stop the

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Speaker 3: Steel movement has come back, because I've noticed in the

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Speaker 3: last few days it's really rammed up. How did what

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Speaker 3: spocked it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you said to stop the steel?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, Well, basically they're they're trying to I mean,

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Speaker 14: you've had these activists for months and months that have

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Speaker 14: been you know, I guess, getting Trump supporters ready to

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Speaker 14: believe that he, you know, if he loses in this election,

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Speaker 14: it's going to be through fraud. That is the only

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Speaker 14: possible way that he could lose. So they have laid

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Speaker 14: out these proposals to to thwart Kamala Harris from winning.

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Speaker 14: They've had a former Green Bread that's kind of led

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Speaker 14: this operation up, and he says, and again this is

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Speaker 14: a quote, January sixth is going to be pretty fun.

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Speaker 14: Now today we started, we in the media started getting

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Speaker 14: notices from law enforcement here in California, as they are

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Speaker 14: across the rest of the country right now, preparing for

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Speaker 14: next Tuesday, and they're looking at worst case scenarios. They're

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Speaker 14: hoping for the best, but you're seeing beefed up security.

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Speaker 14: You're going to be seeing more barricades and officers around

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Speaker 14: a lot of the state and the federal offices. And

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Speaker 14: you know, even the media's hon alert because we know

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Speaker 14: when they're out covering events like this, they get caught

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Speaker 14: right in the middle of, you know, the news cycle,

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Speaker 14: just like we saw back in January the Capital a

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Speaker 14: few years ago.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough now, on Donald Trump's suing CBS over the

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Speaker 3: quote doctoring of Kamala, Harris's answer was when they cut

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Speaker 3: the answer down, did they only cut it down for

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Speaker 3: the trailer or did they cut it down for the

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Speaker 3: actual interview that went to air.

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Speaker 14: I think it depends who you ask, because, like you said,

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Speaker 14: Bill Whittaker, who was the person who was interviewing on this.

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Speaker 14: They did a preview clip that aired on one show

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Speaker 14: on Face the Nation, and Harris was asking, as you

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Speaker 14: heard on your show just a short time ago, why

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Speaker 14: it seemed like a minister of benjamininiaw who wasn't listening

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Speaker 14: to the US. So she gave this long rambling explanation,

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Speaker 14: and then on sixty minutes it was a much shorter

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Speaker 14: and more abbreviated answer. Now, some may say, well, you're

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Speaker 14: trying to change the context of what she said, and

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Speaker 14: others may say, which, we know in this business that

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Speaker 14: is done. You try to shorten an answer. You don't

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Speaker 14: intentionally take it out of context. But sometimes there are

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Speaker 14: rambles and ums and ah's, and it's what you do

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Speaker 14: to edit an interview down into a certain time that

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Speaker 14: you have. So CBS is refusing to turn over the

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Speaker 14: raw tape, and Trump is going for a ten billion

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Speaker 14: I don't know where he came up with this number,

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Speaker 14: ten billion dollars in damages, saying that they practice this

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Speaker 14: deceptive conduct. So again he's making news for the sake

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Speaker 14: of making news, I guess y.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But he's also feeding into something which is very

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Speaker 3: important here, which is the suspicion amongst voters that there

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Speaker 3: is amongst some voters that there is the media bias

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Speaker 3: where the media preferred Karmela and want to protect her.

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Speaker 3: You know, like you've got the examples of the debates

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Speaker 3: where he gets fact checked constantly and she doesn't get

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Speaker 3: fact checked.

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Speaker 5: You're yeah, yeah, You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 14: And CBS and sixty minutes has long been accused of

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Speaker 14: being very much left and leaning. ABC was when they

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Speaker 14: held the presidential debate. And you're right, and I think

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Speaker 14: you know, viewers are just looking this is another left

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Speaker 14: leaning attack on well, maybe not on Trump, but something

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Speaker 14: that's more favorable towards Kamala Harris. And they just were

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Speaker 14: trying to polish her up and make her look good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan, thanks very much, man. Not long to go,

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Speaker 3: Not long to go. Dan Mitchison, our US correspondent to

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Speaker 3: Kuza Feris of the Mardi Parties in trouble again for things.

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Speaker 3: He says, Barry So will run us through that situation shortly,

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Speaker 3: by the way, just quickly. On another situation, this is

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Speaker 3: the utter teddy situation, the faery that ran onto the

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Speaker 3: sandy ground. I didn't realize this, but we're going to

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Speaker 3: have to wait as long as another eighteen months, like

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Speaker 3: we're waiting till twenty twenty six before we find out

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Speaker 3: why the crew on board the art te didn't know

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Speaker 3: that they had to press the button to kill the

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Speaker 3: autopilot for five seconds. We know that they we know,

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Speaker 3: but there's going to be two years from the minute

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Speaker 3: that this thing actually happened back in June. So when

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Speaker 3: we actually get the answer, two years to find out

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Speaker 3: why they didn't know that they had to press the

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Speaker 3: button for five seconds? How apparently it's a complex investigation.

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Speaker 3: What's complex about this? I mean, surely you go to

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Speaker 3: the crew and you go, okay, you didn't know that

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Speaker 3: you had pressed the button for five minutes five seconds?

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Speaker 3: Did nobody? Did anybody tell you? N Nobody tells us? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: we'll go to the bosses and into islander, into islander.

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Speaker 3: Did you know you had to press the button for

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Speaker 3: five seconds?

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Speaker 5: Nah?

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Speaker 3: Did nobody tell you? No? Nobody tell me? Okay. So

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Speaker 3: that means we have to go to the people who

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Speaker 3: made the technology that was installed onto the utter teddy

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Speaker 3: that changed everything. Did you tell the inter islander they

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Speaker 3: had to press the button for five seconds?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Well, there's your problem. How hard is that? Why does

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Speaker 3: take two years to get that answer? What are they doing?

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Speaker 3: Are they like telegramming the little telegraph? It's just like,

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Speaker 3: are they most coding the question to each other and back?

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Speaker 3: I don't even know. Anyway, It doesn't give you much confidence,

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Speaker 3: does it?

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Speaker 1: Quarter to politics? With centrics? Credit check your customers and

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Speaker 1: get payments.

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Speaker 3: Certainty, senior political correspondent with US right now at twelve

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Speaker 3: minutes away from five. Hey, Barry, good afternoon.

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Speaker 15: I just say one of the classic quotes from Donald

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Speaker 15: Trump today, Oh Lord no, yeah. To me, it gives

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Speaker 15: you an indication of what may come if he loses.

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Speaker 15: He said, we want a landslide too big to rig.

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Speaker 7: Ask yourself what that means.

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Speaker 3: That is what I was just talking to Dan Mitchinson

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Speaker 3: about it. It's to stop the steel movement. Right, Anything

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Speaker 3: that's tight, he is going to contest and claim that

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Speaker 3: it's been stolen off him.

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Speaker 7: He's already doing that.

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Speaker 3: He's setting the scene for Barry. How good is that

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Speaker 3: FTA with the GCC.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's excellent.

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Speaker 15: Actually, I remember not that long ago we were talking

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Speaker 15: about the trade deal with the UAE and that sounded okay,

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Speaker 15: and I said, well, it's really small beer compared to

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Speaker 15: the Gulf States. That's what we've been after now, they

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Speaker 15: say for eighteen years. I remember being there originally with

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Speaker 15: John Key. We went to Saudi Arabia and places like this.

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Speaker 15: This well that it encompasses Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait,

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Speaker 15: Oman and Bahrain. So it's massive. This is very big

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Speaker 15: two way trade at the moment is only three billion dollars,

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Speaker 15: but this is a very wealthy part of the world

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Speaker 15: and it's one of the biggest halal parts of the

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Speaker 15: world when it comes to sheep meet and you know,

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Speaker 15: certainly we should be looking forward to this with great

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Speaker 15: enthusiasm because it is big deal. And even though Tod

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Speaker 15: Mclair is getting all the accolades today, the renegotiation was

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Speaker 15: started and on in twenty twenty two. So and that's

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Speaker 15: officials really that they started it up again because I

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Speaker 15: remember at the way back at the time when they

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Speaker 15: originally talked about it, they were essentially telling us that

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Speaker 15: the ink only had to dry on the contract and

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Speaker 15: they were about to sign it. Well it never came off.

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Speaker 15: And you remember that was because of live sheep exports.

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Speaker 15: Well apparently during the negotiations this.

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Speaker 3: Time didn't even so I won't even mentioned, which was

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Speaker 3: only the third FTA that the GCC has signed. Yep,

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Speaker 3: it's so incredible.

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Speaker 15: Yeah they're not, yes, exactly, it is incredible. And for

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Speaker 15: a country like New Zealand that is rich in food

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Speaker 15: and particularly.

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Speaker 3: Cheap, having said that they don't really use a lot

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Speaker 3: of tariffs, so there's probably not that much of a

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Speaker 3: desire to get fta's with them, right, No, they don't.

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Speaker 15: The tariffs are small, but look the five year faux

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Speaker 15: phase on most of the tariffs. Under this agreement, the

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Speaker 15: tariffs are going from five percent, as you say, very

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Speaker 15: small to zero. And if you look at like sheep

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Speaker 15: meat at the moment, the trade is not enormous, but

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Speaker 15: basically it's two hundred and forty five million dollars that's

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Speaker 15: the red meat exports to this part of the world.

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Speaker 15: The tariff costs on those are seven and a half million,

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Speaker 15: But even seven and a half million, that means a

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Speaker 15: lot to a farmer out there. And if they can

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Speaker 15: increase that trade, I think it's great news for him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's Takuza Ferris done?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 15: This man, You'll have to ask yourself, wouldn't you That

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Speaker 15: Ferris had been questioning Muriel Newman, and some people may

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Speaker 15: remember her being a former act MP. She was the

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Speaker 15: founder for the New Zealand Center of Political Research and

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Speaker 15: the Think Tanks associate director Frank Newman. They were in

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Speaker 15: front of the Justice Select Committee and it was being

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Speaker 15: cheered by what would have to be a political newbie

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Speaker 15: is James Mego uh and he's from Rangatata, but he

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Speaker 15: seemed to take what was a foul comment in his stride.

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Speaker 15: Here's Mego just after he cut Ferris's questioning.

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Speaker 16: We will be winding the sup now we are looking

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Speaker 16: over time. So thank you consumement for your submission. We

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Speaker 16: appreciate your times stuff and the beavers will move on

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Speaker 16: to our submission. Appensy on law society, we alter it

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Speaker 16: or thank you forose comments.

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Speaker 15: Mister Ferris and what he called him was an effing racist.

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Speaker 15: And this man does this sort of thing. He's to me,

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Speaker 15: he's when you look at him with the Maldi party.

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Speaker 15: Is Labor going to embrace this because if they win

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Speaker 15: the election, then the Maldi Party will be part of

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Speaker 15: the mix. And you've got people like this. He's already

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Speaker 15: before the Privileges Committee for misleading the House and he

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Speaker 15: most certainly did. And actors wanting to put him back there. Sorry,

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Speaker 15: they've written to the Speaker.

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Speaker 3: I suspect Labor's going to have to rule them out

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Speaker 3: in order to get across the line. Barry, thank you

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Speaker 3: very much. Barry Soper, Senior, political correspondences, and we'll read

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Speaker 3: the political week that was a just after six o'clock

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Speaker 3: back quarter past six right now seven away from five.

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Speaker 3: All of the.

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Speaker 1: Big names are wrong. The mic asking breakfast Boris Johnson.

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Speaker 17: I had the best time with him yesterday. I hooked

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Speaker 17: up with him yesterday morning. I just at the very beginning,

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Speaker 17: I said, look, look, Boris, can you can you like

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Speaker 17: give us just thirty seconds on the UK budget?

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Speaker 18: You know, business is being how had I just got

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Speaker 18: a message from a children's clothing business. It's being hammered

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Speaker 18: by these cats. Is on employment. It will crush enterprise.

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Speaker 18: It's totally the wrong way for the country.

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Speaker 17: Back Monday from six am. The mic asking breakfast at

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Speaker 17: the rain driver of the last news talk z b.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, here we go. I didn't have to because

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Speaker 3: I actually completely forgotten as well. So I'm glad I

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Speaker 3: didn't have to google the normal gay guy vote. A

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Speaker 3: couple of normal gay guys have texted me normal gay

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Speaker 3: guy here here that it means that you don't subscribe

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Speaker 3: to the whole LGBT alphabet stuff. That's from Jordan, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Hither the normal gay guy vote is the gay guy

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Speaker 3: who's not a left wing radical with blue hair. Cheers Pete,

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Speaker 3: who is a normal gay guy guys, thank you for

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Speaker 3: that appreciated. So it's basically and look, there's another name

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Speaker 3: for them, and I forget what they I'm going to

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Speaker 3: have to try and remember as long as it's not offensive,

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Speaker 3: because a lot of things that I know is actually

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Speaker 3: offensive and I can't say it on air. But it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like there is this is happening within kind

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Speaker 3: of that kind of that wide queer community. Is that

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Speaker 3: you have got the It's no surprise because like I mean,

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Speaker 3: women don't all think the same, men don't all think

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Speaker 3: the same, White people don't all think the same. Why

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Speaker 3: would gay people all think the same. And there's a

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Speaker 3: real splintering where you've got the ones who are you know,

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Speaker 3: quite quite agitated and probably pro Karmela, and then you've

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Speaker 3: got all got quite conservative ones who just want to

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Speaker 3: sort of you know, have babies and stay at home

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Speaker 3: and watch movies like me, you know, So that's probably

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Speaker 3: what that is, the normal gay guy vote. Anyway, that's

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Speaker 3: enough of me talking about something I have no idea about.

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Speaker 3: One more day to se quasi, one more data, go

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Speaker 3: and see quasi if you're in Wellington. Quasi is going

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Speaker 3: to get chopped off off the Civic Square roof tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: It's got some Internet if you don't know what I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about. Its Quasimodo the Hideous Hand. Thank god, it's

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Speaker 3: gonna go bye bye, ugly getting some international attention. There's

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Speaker 3: a headline in The Guardian that says relief mixed with

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Speaker 3: sadness as New Zealand bids farewell to hated giant hand sculpture.

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Speaker 3: No mate, no sadness, no sadness, just relief and also

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Speaker 3: kind of stoked that the Aussies are going to get it.

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Speaker 3: If anybody should be cursed with Quasi's ugly face looking

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Speaker 3: at them, it's the Australians. We'll talk to the nurses next.

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Speaker 1: It is beautiful?

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Speaker 15: Is it.

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Speaker 2: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 2: get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Heather due to Celan drive with one New Zealand. Let's

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Speaker 2: get connected and news talk as.

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Speaker 1: They'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: There is worry about the fact that the cops are

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Speaker 3: going to stop attending some mental health call outs next week,

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Speaker 3: but no one knows exactly how this is going to work.

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Speaker 3: So from Monday police will not attend what they call

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Speaker 3: low risk callouts where there's no immediate risk life and safety.

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Speaker 3: Health New Zealand is expected to pick up the work,

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Speaker 3: but leaked documents show that only interim standard operating procedures

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Speaker 3: have been developed. Helen Garrick is the Mental Health Section

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Speaker 3: chair of the New Zealand Nurses Organization. Hey, Helen, Hi, Heather, Helen,

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Speaker 3: what's house New Zealand's plan? Who's going to go to

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Speaker 3: the low risk callouts? If the cops aren't going?

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Speaker 19: Well, the plane is still in its I would say infancy.

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Speaker 19: There's still some work going back and forth between the

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Speaker 19: unions and Tafara war Are representatives. We anticipate that this

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Speaker 19: work will fall within the mental health services and in

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Speaker 19: particular the crisis teams in the mental health services. The

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Speaker 19: problem is we don't yet have a sufficient workforce to

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Speaker 19: be able to manage the increase in workload.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so do you I mean, do you guys actually

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Speaker 3: know how this works. So let's say Monday, there's a

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Speaker 3: call that comes in says somebody's having a mental health crisis.

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Speaker 3: Normally the cops would go out. Now the cops aren't

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Speaker 3: going out what do.

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Speaker 5: You do well.

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Speaker 19: What I'd like to make clear, because I think it

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Speaker 19: hasn't been clear in some of the narratives, is that

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Speaker 19: we do not now expect police to go out to

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Speaker 19: people who are low risk or who are consenting for

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Speaker 19: treatment and can get themselves to mental health services, or

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Speaker 19: perhaps their families can get them there. That is not

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Speaker 19: a police role, and so that isn't changing at all.

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Speaker 19: What we're looking at is the risk situations where the

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Speaker 19: person is in such mental distress they're unable to get

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Speaker 19: themselves into mental health service or perhaps their family is

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Speaker 19: not able to get them in, and so we need

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Speaker 19: to be clear these are risk situations that we're talking about.

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Speaker 19: We're not talking about the police being a taxi service.

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Speaker 3: What's going to happen, So the cops are going to

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Speaker 3: sit with the person in emergency departments for up to

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Speaker 3: an hour. What happens after that they.

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Speaker 19: Will be handing over the person to the emergency department

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Speaker 19: and the nurses in the emergency department will attempt to

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Speaker 19: get the Christ's team there as soon as possible. This

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Speaker 19: is part of the problem. We haven't set up significant

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Speaker 19: services to be able to address this quickly, and so

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Speaker 19: the person is likely to remain in v because crisis

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Speaker 19: teams staff are out doing work in the community. So

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Speaker 19: there hasn't been a build up of the mental health

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Speaker 19: workforce to be able to take in this extra workload.

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Speaker 3: So you literally may not have enough people to actually

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Speaker 3: come and sit with this person until that scene.

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Speaker 19: No, we don't have enough people. As that person sits there,

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Speaker 19: I can assure you Christ's teen staff will be in

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Speaker 19: the community working with people in their homes, attempting to

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Speaker 19: persuade in some occasions people to come in for treatment.

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Speaker 19: They will be working fully in the community. They will

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Speaker 19: come into ED when they can to see people, but

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Speaker 19: there is no workforce out there to pick up the

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Speaker 19: sexual work.

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Speaker 3: Helen, thanks very much, really appreciate your time. Helen Garrick

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Speaker 3: ends it in no Mental Health Section.

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Speaker 1: Chair together do for see Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Hey, some good news for common sense. That fundraiser in

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Speaker 3: Dunedin that we were originally talking to Mike King about

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Speaker 3: a couple of days ago, has now got permission to

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Speaker 3: serve booze. You'll remember the story. Police opposed the Boo's license,

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Speaker 3: saying it was inappropriate for a fundraiser for suicide prevention

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Speaker 3: to have a liquor license, but it got in the

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Speaker 3: end today anyway. Tagan rose Vickery is the events organizer. Heyitagan, Hello,

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Speaker 3: how we go? I'm very well. You must be relieved

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Speaker 3: because this is tomorrow, isn't it?

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Speaker 18: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Borrow, Yeah, are you relieved? I am.

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Speaker 20: I kind of can get back into what I was

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Speaker 20: meant to be doing today and getting finishing off organizing

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Speaker 20: the show.

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Speaker 3: Taking listen from the very outset. This opposition to you,

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Speaker 3: guys serving alcohol seemed ridiculous to me. Did it seem

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Speaker 3: as ridiculous to you?

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Speaker 20: A little bit?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 20: I could understand where the police are coming from and

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Speaker 20: where their concerns were coming from. But if they had,

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Speaker 20: if they wanted to sort of look at mine so indexedly,

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Speaker 20: then they sort of needed to look at every other

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Speaker 20: fundraiser that was about any sort of at rescisible health

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Speaker 20: or mental health. So it did feel a little bit pecky,

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Speaker 20: feel lack of a bitter word.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And surely if the point is to assist people

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Speaker 3: who are trying to deal with, you know, preventing suicide,

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Speaker 3: then the best thing to do is give them as

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Speaker 3: much money as possible, in which case you need to

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Speaker 3: serve alcohol in order to make as much money as possible.

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Speaker 20: Right, Well, it's not a need. I'll make that very

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Speaker 20: real clear. It's not a need to serve our. It

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Speaker 20: was just sort of when you go to a fashion

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Speaker 20: show or an event, more often than not, there's an

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Speaker 20: option to have a glass of wine because it makes it.

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Speaker 3: More and then you part with your cash a bit

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Speaker 3: more freely. That's the point.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it does lessen that people's fockets a little bit

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Speaker 20: more if they've got if they've got a wine with them,

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Speaker 20: But most of the proceeds for life matters will be

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Speaker 20: coming from the raffle sales on the night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, on the other hand, I suppose you can't

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Speaker 3: be too unhappy about all of the publicity you've got,

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Speaker 3: can you.

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Speaker 20: No, I don't. Well, I'm not necessarily disappointed that there's

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Speaker 20: been a bit of publicity. I am disappointed that the

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Speaker 20: light that I was trying to shine on mental health

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Speaker 20: awareness was sort of shadowed by the problem people seem

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Speaker 20: to have around me serving alcohol at the event, and.

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Speaker 3: Then presumably also the problem people seem to have with

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Speaker 3: the Mike King comments. Yeah.

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Speaker 20: But yeah, that's a whole other story in itself. But

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Speaker 20: that's my journey that's got nothing to do with me,

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Speaker 20: and I'm just out here trying to do my thing.

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Speaker 3: Well, good luck with your thing tomorrow, Teagan, and thanks

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Speaker 3: for your time. That's Tegan rose Vickery, the organizer of

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Speaker 3: this some fashion show is called more than just a

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Speaker 3: fashion show, Heather, I reckon, there's every chance the arter

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Speaker 3: Teta will have run around again before the inquiry is concluded.

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Speaker 3: It is entirely possible. Is another eighteen months, I mean,

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Speaker 3: one of the chances it just hits another Sandy Beach

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Speaker 3: in the other eighteen months, who knows, Heather. In the

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Speaker 3: time it takes them to work out the reason why

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Speaker 3: they didn't know that they needed to hold the button

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Speaker 3: for five seconds, your unborn child will have learned to eat, walk,

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Speaker 3: and probably be doing more talking than they are to you,

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Speaker 3: which is a fair point, because by then she'll be

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Speaker 3: out and she'll be what fifteen months and fifteen months,

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Speaker 3: She's going to be walking, she's going to be eating solids,

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Speaker 3: she's going to be saying some words. First word. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to teach her as art tete obviously, and coffee,

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Speaker 3: actually on coffee. I'm going to settle this for you

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Speaker 3: once and for all as to whether they were drinking

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Speaker 3: coffee at the time of the thing. We will do

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Speaker 3: it in the next hour, absolutely, fourteen past five. Hey,

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Speaker 3: if you're a business owner manager with annual revenue of

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Speaker 3: more than three million dollars, you know that success doesn't

849
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Speaker 3: happen by accident, right. I mean, you're probably used to

850
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Speaker 3: doing most things yourself. You work hard, and you often

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Speaker 3: feel quite alone. Well, you're not alone, lots of people

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Speaker 3: like you. Get to a point where you don't know

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Speaker 3: who to talk to or who you can trust. Well,

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Speaker 3: how about this the ice House. The ice House is

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Speaker 3: all facing the same issues that you're facing now. The

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Speaker 1: MZ, Heather dup c Allen.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen past five. Now we've had the All Blacks name

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Speaker 3: their side to face England. It took in him on

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Speaker 3: Sunday morning, our time, Body Barrett starting at first five,

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Speaker 3: Jordi Barrett's back from injury, and Ethan de Groot has

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Speaker 3: been dropped for failing to meet internal standards. Now Elliott

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Speaker 3: Smith is in England to call the game for US.

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Speaker 3: Hey Elliott, Hey, Heather. Do we actually know what Ethan

876
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Speaker 3: DeGroot has done.

877
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Speaker 21: We don't know. It's been fairly thin on details from

878
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Speaker 21: Scott Robertson. I asked him whether it was on field

879
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 21: off field. My understanding is that it's an off field indiscretion,

880
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 21: but details coming few and far between from the All Blacks,

881
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 21: and to this point we don't know what Ethan DeGroot

882
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 21: has done to be stood down for a match. You

883
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 21: think back to earlier in the year, Damien McKenzie wasn't

884
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Speaker 21: stood down for missing the team bus earlier in that

885
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Speaker 21: trip to San Diego, So for comparison's sake, Ethan de

886
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 21: Groot's mister on the basis of whatever indiscretion or missive

887
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 21: team protocol or standards that he's done on this point,

888
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Speaker 21: but we don't know exactly what it will be. He'll

889
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Speaker 21: be fit again. We're available for selection again, I should say,

890
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 21: for for next week in Dublin.

891
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Speaker 3: What do you think about Boden Barrett taking the number

892
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: ten jersey from Jamian McKenzie. What's happened here?

893
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Speaker 21: Look, I think this is the right move, to be

894
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Speaker 21: honest here, the Damien McKenzie's had a real run at

895
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Speaker 21: ten this year, started the first eight matches of the season.

896
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Speaker 21: Boden Barrett came in and while they didn't set the

897
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Speaker 21: world on fire, I thought he was solid in Wellington

898
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Speaker 21: and perhaps gives the All Blacks what they need to

899
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Speaker 21: steer themselves around the park when they're playing at Twickenham.

900
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Speaker 21: Kicking game very very important that it's a strength of

901
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 21: Boden Barrett later on in his career, very good tactically

902
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Speaker 21: and game management wise. He's played more than one hundred

903
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Speaker 21: and thirty tests now to this point. He started his career,

904
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Speaker 21: or started at the starting of his test career, he

905
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Speaker 21: was playing at ten and sort of back to the

906
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Speaker 21: future a little bit for Boden and Barrett. But I

907
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Speaker 21: think this is a good move. It just sharpens up

908
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Speaker 21: the All Blacks attack a little bit. A change mid

909
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Speaker 21: season to go, Actually, we're going to change our team.

910
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Speaker 21: But I think they've given Damien McKenzie enough rope. Now

911
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 21: it's time for a change for the All Blacks.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that these guys are in the slightest

913
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Speaker 3: concern about Joe Mahler and his absolute muckup of the

914
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Speaker 3: Harker cool?

915
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: Oh?

916
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Speaker 21: Look, I think it all won't wind the All Blacks

917
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Speaker 21: up necessarily, but they will have noted it. And Scott

918
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 21: Rolinson says he's not the kind of coach that will

919
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Speaker 21: pin things on the dressing room wall, but he did

920
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Speaker 21: point out that all these players have social media and

921
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 21: you wouldn't have been able to escape the talk about

922
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Speaker 21: Joe Mahler this week. They will have noted it. And look,

923
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Speaker 21: the hacker is very very important to the All Blacks

924
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Speaker 21: as part of their DNA. It's it's something really special

925
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Speaker 21: to them. They do it for themselves. They don't do

926
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Speaker 21: it for opposition, appause or fans in the cheering on it.

927
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Speaker 21: They do it for themselves. And you know, while Joe

928
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Speaker 21: marl is entitled to his opinion. I thought it was

929
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Speaker 21: a little bit ill timed, but we have these stories

930
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Speaker 21: every so often. It seems someone from England will disparage

931
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Speaker 21: the hacker. Joe Marler is the person who's thrown out

932
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Speaker 21: the bait, and the All Blacks have responded to it.

933
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Speaker 21: But I don't think they would really care that much.

934
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Speaker 21: I think it would be noted and they would have

935
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Speaker 21: moved on. But you know, before kick off, two minutes

936
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Speaker 21: before kickoff on Sunday morning, everyone's going to be looking

937
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Speaker 21: to see what kind of hark could they do and

938
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Speaker 21: what kind of English response we get from it?

939
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Speaker 3: All right, Elliott, thanks very much, Elliott Smith News doalgs

940
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Speaker 3: ab Rugby commentator calling the game live and free, four

941
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Speaker 3: am Sunday here on NEWSTALKSZB. We just lost our first

942
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Speaker 3: wicket in the cricket. By the way, looked up just

943
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Speaker 3: in time to see Devin Conway walking off. So it

944
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Speaker 3: took us what twenty one minutes? Five twenty one.

945
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Speaker 2: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

946
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Speaker 2: Heather Dupless Allen Drive with one New Zealand let's get

947
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Speaker 2: connected news talk.

948
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Speaker 1: As z'd be.

949
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Speaker 3: Hey, you know how I feel about Auckland Football Club

950
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 3: versus Phoenix. I think Auckland Football Club's absticantly just smash

951
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: the Phoenix. We're going to talk to the guy who's

952
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: running the place, Nick Becker, will bet us in twelve

953
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Speaker 3: minutes time, twenty four past five. Hands up, by the way,

954
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Speaker 3: who's impressed with Todd McLay today. I mean that was

955
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Speaker 3: a surprise this morning, wasn't it. He has managed to

956
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: finally sign this free trade deal with the Gulf States

957
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: that we as a country have been working on for

958
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Speaker 3: almost twenty years and got absolutely nowhere until now. And

959
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Speaker 3: it is not like we didn't try it. Boy, did

960
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: we try to get this thing signed. Do you remember

961
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: the Saudi sheep deal where we sent like nine hundred

962
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: pregnant us in the hold of a plane to Saudi

963
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 3: Arabia and where we spent millions of dollars setting up

964
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: a farm for a sheek in the middle of the desert.

965
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: It happened about ten years ago and nothing came of it.

966
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: I mean, we tried all of that to get this

967
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Speaker 3: deal across the line. That was an epic amount of

968
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 3: sucking up from us and when absolutely nowhere and yet

969
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: in walks old Todd McLay manages to pull the thing off. Apparently,

970
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 3: according to media reports, what he did was he basically

971
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Speaker 3: met his counterpart from the GCC a few months ago

972
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: and he said to the guy, okay, listen, either we

973
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: do this deal or we just end the negotiations. And

974
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 3: so they did the deal. They were like, okay, fickle, okay,

975
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 3: stop playing games. We'll just do the deal.

976
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 5: So they did.

977
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: And it's lucrative. These guys in the GCC. I mean,

978
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: these guys love luxury, they love quality, and they have

979
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: got money to spend and we want their money. And

980
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 3: we already have a reasonable foothold in that market because

981
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: even without an FDA, this is our seventh biggest export market,

982
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: so it's only going to get bigger in it now. Honestly,

983
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: I have to be honest with you, I was not

984
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: expecting this kind of kind of like knocking it out

985
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: of the park from Todd McLay. Right, he's only been

986
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: in the job for a year as the Trade Minister.

987
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 3: Now he's gone and done this, and he's also put

988
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Speaker 3: together the UAE Free Trade Deal in the fastest time

989
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: that we have ever put an FTA together, which I

990
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: think is about four months or something like that, and

991
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: he is grinding it out with all of these visits

992
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: to India in a bid to try to get that

993
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: FTA to work as well. This is impressive now, if

994
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: I'm counting right, He's now signed as many free trade

995
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 3: deals in a year as the last labor government signed

996
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: in six years.

997
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: To ever due for ce Ellen Carmel is holding.

998
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: Her rally over in Nevada and guess who turned up

999
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 3: j Low.

1000
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 22: We are on the brink of an election that demands

1001
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 22: a choice choice between backwards and forwards, a choice between

1002
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 22: the past and the future, a choice between divided and united.

1003
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: You could not have a more different vibe to what's

1004
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: going on at Trump. He's outfit. He's talking to Tucker

1005
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: Carlson sitting on chairs on stage.

1006
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 23: So you said that you were saved in the end

1007
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 23: by an angel. How have your views about God changed

1008
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 23: in the last eight years and particularly after getting shot?

1009
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 24: Well, look, I've always been a believer, but I wouldn't say.

1010
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 24: You know, there's a certain pastor Robert Jeffers, and I

1011
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 24: didn't know her name is Robert Jeffers, nice guy from Texas.

1012
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 24: And he said, you know, Trump may not be the

1013
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 24: best Christian of all. But he's the only one going

1014
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 24: to take us to the Promised Land because he's the

1015
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 24: best leader, and he's the toughest guy, and he's going

1016
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 24: to be able to get us through this crazy life.

1017
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: Now, which of those two are you going to remember?

1018
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 3: You're gonna talk. You remember Trump and Tucker talking about

1019
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: angels or what j Low said, it's the angels every

1020
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: day headline.

1021
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: Sext on your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and

1022
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: in your car on your drive home, hither duper c

1023
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Allen drive with one New Zealand let's get.

1024
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: Connected and you talk, as said be.

1025
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 10: When you're playing he's drinking now you thank him down

1026
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 10: me when you're riding where he's dramming you, mastery.

1027
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 3: Do you really think that either of those events, this

1028
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: is the Trump and Kamala Harris events, will influence the

1029
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: way that people vote at that people at those functions

1030
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: vote no, no, And I don't think for the most

1031
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: part's going to affect how anybody votes. Quite frankly, this

1032
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: is just about kind of keeping them, I mean up

1033
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: being seen to do things. And also for Trump, because

1034
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: this is his playbook, just you know, getting some some

1035
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: outrageous headlines out there. As long as we're talking about

1036
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: him and his angels and stuff, happy as a clam,

1037
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: isn't he Listen on the gcc FTA, which is by

1038
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: far and away probably the best news for the country

1039
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 3: economically of the day. We're going to speak to Beef

1040
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: and Lamb's chair Kate Acklin after six o'clock the Sports

1041
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 3: Tittle standing by its twenty four away from.

1042
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: Six, Heather do for CELA.

1043
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: Now they're putting on extra security for the football in

1044
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 3: Wellington tomorrow. This is of course the first big derby

1045
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: between the Wellington Phoenix and the newcomers Auckland FC. And

1046
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: the Phoenix reckon that there have been threats of organized

1047
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: violence from visiting fans on social media.

1048
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 24: Now.

1049
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 3: Nick Becker is the CEO of AFC and with us.

1050
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 6: Hey Nick, Hey, Heather, how are you doing well?

1051
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 5: Thanks?

1052
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 19: Mate?

1053
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: Is this credible? You've seen any of these threats?

1054
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 6: No, it's absolute nonsense. I haven't seen anything. I've asked

1055
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 6: Wellington to send me their proof. They haven't sent me anything.

1056
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 6: So I think it might just be a little keyboard warrior.

1057
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 6: So it's probably some spotted little fourteen year old getting

1058
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 6: over excited. But no, there's absolutely no credibility to it

1059
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 6: at all.

1060
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 3: Possible that is a bit of smack talk from the Phoenix.

1061
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 6: It could be. I mean that that'd be quite smart

1062
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 6: for them. So it might be are they getting.

1063
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: You back for the stunt that you people pulled with

1064
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: the T shirt thing?

1065
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 6: Ah, that wasn't us here.

1066
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 5: That came.

1067
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: Oh the stunt that was pulled on your behalf?

1068
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 6: It was it was on our behalf. It was somebody

1069
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 6: representing organ FC, and I think they did a great job.

1070
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 6: And it definitely wasn't I didn't have anything to do with it.

1071
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: I forget the details. I forget the details. But I'm

1072
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 3: loving this rivalry already. Hey, how many fans good? It

1073
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 3: is good. It makes it really interesting. We don't have

1074
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: enough of this stuff in the country, don't you think.

1075
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 6: No, it's exciting. And it's like, you know, you want

1076
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 6: to bet football's tribal, right, and you want to have

1077
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 6: that tribalism. You want fans to have a bit of bands.

1078
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 6: You want it to be fun, you want it to

1079
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 6: be entertaining, and that's and that's exactly what it is.

1080
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 6: Kiwi football fans aren't hooligans and there's not going to

1081
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 6: be any trouble tomorrow. It's it's going to be a

1082
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 6: fantastic moment for New Zealand football.

1083
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: Now, how many fans do you reckon? You've got headed

1084
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: down because that's a lot of yellow that they've got

1085
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: going on there.

1086
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, well it hows it. Think got all

1087
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 6: the ocs as well. But we've got I reckon, we

1088
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Speaker 6: were about four or five hundred coming down, so it

1089
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Speaker 6: could be more. We've the port who are our official

1090
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 6: supporters clubs said that they've got about four hundred of

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00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 6: them going down. So they'll bring the noise, they'll bring

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00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 6: the energy, they'll bring the fun. It's going to be

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00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 6: a great night.

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00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: Did you see the Ta b Odds are stacked against you?

1095
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 6: Are they?

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00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 5: No?

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00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 6: I haven't I unlessed them?

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00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: What are they don't remember exactly, but I thought that's

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00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: what off because I would have thought you guys would

1100
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 3: be the favorites given that you've come.

1101
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 6: And hot, Wow, you want it? You want to go

1102
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 6: in as an underdog? Doing you snatch three points and

1103
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 6: then get out of well into as quickly as we can.

1104
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: How how far do you reckon you can take the

1105
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 3: swimming streak in your first season?

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Speaker 6: Oh well you know, we've got to keep our feet

1107
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 6: firmly on the ground, but we have had We've had

1108
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 6: a dream start. I think the boys. The boys have

1109
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 6: jowled really well and are just going to get better.

1110
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 6: Even from round one to round two, we've improved. So

1111
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 6: you know, I'm confident that we're going to come down here.

1112
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 6: We're gonna We're gonna put up everything that we've got

1113
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 6: and you know, if we get three points, fantastic long

1114
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 6: made the streak continue. I don't want to put it.

1115
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 6: I don't want to jinx it by saying it could

1116
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 6: go on forever. But yeah, we want it. Will play

1117
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 6: as hard as we can.

1118
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 3: What's the magic source? Like, what's making you guys click

1119
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 3: so well? Is it the money?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 6: I think it's it's more the people, right. We from

1122
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 6: day one we said we're going to go out and

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00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 6: we're going to get good people. We've got Steve Kayaker,

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00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 6: proven winner, he's won as a player, he's won as

1125
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Speaker 6: a as a manager. And then and then with our recruitment,

1126
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 6: we looked at the right type of players who played

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00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 6: the style that we want to play. But also we've

1128
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 6: brought in good people, the energy and the kind of

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00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 6: the positive vibe and the squad. There's nothing like I've

1130
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 6: seen before. And I've worked in football for over twenty years,

1131
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 6: and you know, the guys get on so well. I

1132
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 6: think we've been really clever with some of our foreign

1133
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 6: players that the visa spots that come in. You can

1134
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 6: get up to five visas. And we've brought an amazing

1135
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 6: guy called Hiroki who's our club captain. You know, he's

1136
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 6: gone to three World Cups and he brings a real

1137
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 6: sort of professionalism and brings the dressing room together. And

1138
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 6: then we've got a bit of South American flair, and

1139
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 6: we've got a great midfield and a kid called Lily

1140
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 6: who came over from Belgium and he's been very solo

1141
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,959
Speaker 6: in the first two games. So Steve's got them playing

1142
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 6: really well. They're playing to style that we want to play, attacking,

1143
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 6: exciting football, and we've got some great Kiwis in there too.

1144
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 6: You know, we've got five current All Whites with a

1145
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 6: bunch of other Kiwis who played in the All White

1146
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 6: So it's an exciting young team and we can't wack

1147
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 6: to get up there and show them what we've got.

1148
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 3: Good stuff. Nick, I'm convinced you're gonna win. Good on you.

1149
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: The CEO of Auckland FC, Laura produced. Laura just looked

1150
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 3: up the tab old. She knows how to do this things.

1151
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: She's into that kind of thing. She says. Wellington is

1152
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: paying two dollars forty five and Auckland's paying two dollars seventy,

1153
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 3: So it's not like not a huge difference, is it?

1154
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: Twenty away from six.

1155
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand's Southeast International Realty,

1156
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: local and global exposure like no other.

1157
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 16: We've been thinking of that.

1158
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 15: That it's ridiculous that we're doing the archive haircut of

1159
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 15: a ridiculous forty haircot for his ass.

1160
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 20: We've got cultures.

1161
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 4: Down here in Polynesia, and why should we take it away?

1162
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 5: Think a bit of luck goes a long way in

1163
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: this game.

1164
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 3: But I think we've you know, shown some real character

1165
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 3: with our batting aspect as well and betting in tough

1166
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 3: conditions in India. I've had the comment fashion come up

1167
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 3: a bit lately, like how do you feel it could

1168
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: be your last game? And I've definitely been in a

1169
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 3: bit of denial about it. I actually refused to believe

1170
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: it my last game right here we go on the

1171
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 3: sports tuddle with us this evening, Andrew Aldison News talks

1172
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 3: he'd be sports free to Clay Wilson News to a

1173
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 3: Xebi sport news director. Hello, lads, it I reckon AFC

1174
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 3: is going to win. I just feel like these guys

1175
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: are on just on a good buzz. What do you reckon?

1176
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 25: Well, it's the top of the table clash, isn't it.

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00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 25: This is what you want in New Zealand football and

1178
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 25: to be able to create that so early in their

1179
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 25: tenure Auckland FC and they've.

1180
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 12: Had a dream start.

1181
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 25: Really, I think, have you're marketing the game, et cetera

1182
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 25: in Auckland that's it's perfect. So you're heading on down

1183
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 25: there and I think that, yeah, they'll get some numbers

1184
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 25: into the ground and it should be a terrific atmosphere.

1185
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 25: And I guess building this rivalry over time, letting it,

1186
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 25: letting it breathe, and just creating it as time goes on.

1187
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: Clay, I see that the host was raising some concern

1188
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: about the fact that this is the big derby and

1189
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 3: it's not selling out. Is that is that a thing

1190
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 3: to be worried about or is it just that's just

1191
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 3: how it is.

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00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 26: I thought I saw this afternoon that I had that

1193
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 26: may have changed since this morning was maybe a certain

1194
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,959
Speaker 26: section of the of the crowd is has sold out.

1195
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 26: I would have thought they're going to get pretty good

1196
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 26: numbers just based on what we've been talking about, the

1197
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 26: fact that there are two top of the table teams.

1198
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 26: They would have done well anyway, just just with being

1199
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 26: the first professional football derby in New Zealand. And I

1200
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 26: just think it's great to have a rivalry and a

1201
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 26: sport in New Zealand that does rivalries best, really, isn't it.

1202
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 26: Football rivalries around the world are just amazing and we

1203
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 26: watch with jealousy from you know, leagues in Europe and

1204
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 26: abroad as how how well they do rivalry. So to

1205
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 26: have one here now, it's great that everyone's diving into it,

1206
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 26: and even the two clubs some of the stuff you

1207
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 26: were talking with Nick Becker about. I have to say

1208
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 26: I think that the clubs are doing the needle very

1209
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 26: well and.

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00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: I love it. So do you think that's what it is?

1211
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 3: Clay is them? Is that just them them needling each other?

1212
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 7: I think it is.

1213
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 26: And I say great because I think a lot of

1214
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 26: other sports, you know, I'm looking at rugby in a

1215
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 26: way they try and steer away from it, and I

1216
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 26: think in recent years but they perhaps realized that you've

1217
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 26: got to embrace that kind of thing. That's what the

1218
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 26: fans want, and that's what the fans want. A bit

1219
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 26: of tribal them, a bit of passion so they can

1220
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 26: really get into it.

1221
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 3: I guess it's not quite sold out as how many

1222
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 3: are sold at least twenty thousand, and I think that's

1223
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 3: still the same as it was this morning, right orders,

1224
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 3: have you got the tea on what ethan the group did?

1225
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 12: Will be wanting to know this all day, haven't we.

1226
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 25: It's hanging out there from from Scott Robertson not really

1227
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 25: revealing any detail as to what the incident was. I'm

1228
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 25: sure we'll squeak out eventually, but yeah, it's certainly a

1229
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 25: state of intrigue for now.

1230
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 3: It's not going to be playing it TWI. You don't know, Clay,

1231
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: do you know?

1232
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 26: No, no idea. I haven't had anything any whispers come

1233
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 26: across across my ears.

1234
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 25: So just start meeting the standards, hither.

1235
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: Oh that'll come out?

1236
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: Come on, no, come on, somebody's come on you. Sports

1237
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 3: journos are usually really really good, like you're actually very

1238
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 3: good at your job.

1239
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 12: Somebody's going to do may get the shovel out.

1240
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm so. Elliott before said it's got to

1241
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: be worse because because Damo wasn't dropped when he fell

1242
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: asleep on the beach and then had to get the

1243
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: taxi and you know, like that norse and obviously been

1244
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 3: on the terps the night before or something. I don't know,

1245
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 3: I'm making up stories, but it's got to be worse

1246
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: than that, right, So it's it's on the more serious

1247
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: level of things, isn't it.

1248
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: Orders Well, look, Heather and yeah you would think so.

1249
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 25: For them to drop him for a tear s match,

1250
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 25: he has to.

1251
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 12: Have been up to mischief in some capacity.

1252
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 26: Okay, well, well we mus curf you like Marke Delea,

1253
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 26: did Heather?

1254
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: How far maybe? Which involves how far can we push this?

1255
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: Clay just speculating on air to put pressure on ends

1256
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: it out to fess up because we have pushed it

1257
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: so far? Do you know what I mean?

1258
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 27: Wow?

1259
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1260
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 26: New Zealand Rugby are a pretty determined organization or it

1261
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 26: comes to these kinds of things and keeping them quiet.

1262
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 26: So I think it's going to have to take someone

1263
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 26: late order says to get the shovel out and do

1264
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 26: some decent digging.

1265
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 12: Joe Marla on the case.

1266
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 3: Actually I want to talk about him next hold fire

1267
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 3: on that will come back quarters.

1268
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: To the Friday sports huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International

1269
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: Realty elevate them marketing of your home.

1270
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: Right, all this you brought up, Joe Marlis, what do

1271
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: you make of this? Has he got a point?

1272
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 27: Look?

1273
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 25: I think he does in that Well, we'll Rugby grant

1274
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 25: the All Blacks opportunity to do the hard at And

1275
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 25: I think Marla's point reading through it, even if it's

1276
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 25: been put a bit clumsily, is that that the other

1277
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 25: teams deserve a right of reply and as in anything

1278
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 25: that we do and live mean a right reply should

1279
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 25: be allowed. Shodn't it on the field. And how they

1280
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 25: go about that, I mean I can appreciate. Yeah, so

1281
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 25: he gets an oscar for distraction technics, doesn't.

1282
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 3: It over the course for a week.

1283
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 25: But I think that, Yeah, I think he does have

1284
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 25: a point there.

1285
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. And do you know what,

1286
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: Clay What surprises me is how sensitive we are about

1287
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 3: does I mean, the guy basically got god bombarded on Twitter,

1288
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: deleted his Twitter account as a result, then came back

1289
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 3: and apologized directly to New Zealand fans. What's wrong with us?

1290
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.

1291
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 26: And I actually love the way he sort of added

1292
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 26: a social media again and just apologized and just you know,

1293
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 26: he's a real character for those that don't know Joe Mahler,

1294
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 26: and he's and I think he's handled it pretty well.

1295
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 26: And orders to use the word clumsy, I think that's

1296
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 26: all this is. Really, He's he's got his point across

1297
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 26: in a very clumsy kind of yet perhaps are too

1298
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 26: direct a fashion, and people have a few people have

1299
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 26: got a bit sensitive about that. But you know, we

1300
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 26: were talking about rivalry and the football, Well, the hacker

1301
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 26: is a challenge and you know some of the has

1302
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 26: been some great moments over the years of teams responding

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Speaker 26: to the hacker. You know, me personally, I love the

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Speaker 26: hacker and I love it when teams respond to you know,

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Speaker 26: remember the flying v that the French did in the

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Speaker 26: World Cup final here, and you know there were some

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Speaker 26: great moments in the sort of late nineties where the

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01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 26: England team got right face to face with the order.

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Speaker 3: Was it the Welsh You wouldn't look away and so

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Speaker 3: everybody just stood there looking at each other for ages.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, there was the standoff, you know, and those these

1312
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 26: are moments that have been years ago and we remember them,

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Speaker 26: so it just goes to show, right, So I think, yeah,

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Speaker 26: like he made a good point, you just didn't get

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Speaker 26: it across in the best fashion.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now, Liam Lawson orders, is he getting a little

1317
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Speaker 3: too sassy?

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Speaker 1: I'm liking this hunger.

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Speaker 25: It's a guy who's determined, and it's a guy not desperate,

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Speaker 25: but is absolutely revenous to succeed in Formula one, isn't it?

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Speaker 25: And I just think that, oh, it's he's put it

1322
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Speaker 25: out there, flipping the bird, et cetera. I mean, I

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Speaker 25: do tend to think that if you're going at threaded

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Speaker 25: ocasion now and you want to you you would have

1325
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 25: that sort of reaction. I mean we do on our

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Speaker 25: motorways ourselves something. If you're going to go out, you

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01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 25: want to go out in style and you want to

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Speaker 25: flip it. So anyway, it's amazing what flashes through your

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Speaker 25: mind in those tight moments, not that I'm driving, Like Liam.

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Speaker 3: Lawson three, what do you Reckon Clay No.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 26: And the thing is, I think Liam's had quite a

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Speaker 26: clean cut image up until now, but he's always, you know,

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Speaker 26: from speaking to him for a few years now, been

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Speaker 26: a very determined young man. And I think that's all

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Speaker 26: the shows. It's been a bit of a coincidence that

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Speaker 26: it's happened with you know, two or three veterans of

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Speaker 26: the of the Formula one paddock, and you know people

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01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 26: have got a bit up in arms about that, but

1340
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 26: you know, in terms of cut throat sports or industries

1341
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 26: in sports, Formula one is right out there, if not

1342
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 26: the most cut throat. If you're not out there to

1343
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 26: win and you know, stay in front of all costs,

1344
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 26: you know, you might as well not be there. So

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01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 26: I love that he's showing this because it shows especially

1346
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 26: he's trying to push for a promotion to a team

1347
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 26: like Red Bull, you know they're going to be looking

1348
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 26: at that and saying, here's a kid who's not going

1349
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 26: to be pushed over. So I think it's it's great

1350
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Speaker 26: and you know, it makes her exciting racing for when

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Speaker 26: he's on the cameras.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. Now listen on the Constellation Cup and the

1353
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Speaker 3: fact that we want it basically because Grayson Wiket is

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01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 3: just amazing Clay, do we have to I mean, does

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Speaker 3: Neble New Zealand have to reconsider this concession and give

1356
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Speaker 3: her a concession to go over to Australia and play

1357
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Speaker 3: but still play for the Silver Ferns.

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Speaker 5: I feel like heither.

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Speaker 26: We've spoken about this before, maybe more than once, and

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Speaker 26: it's just to me, you know, we've got New Zealand

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Speaker 26: cricket now and the sports aren't apples for apples, but

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Speaker 26: you know, making certain concessions with players who are long

1363
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Speaker 26: serving or you know, leading players within these national teams.

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Speaker 26: And to me, you know, you've got a player like

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Speaker 26: Grace Wiki She's only going to get better going and

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Speaker 26: playing in Australia, isn't she? So yes, yes, I mean

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Speaker 26: I guess New Zealand Neckborn New Zealand's in a bit

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Speaker 26: of a precarious situation because the domestic league is in

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Speaker 26: flux and a bit up in the year, so they

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Speaker 26: have to consider that. But you know, some of these

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Speaker 26: leading players, if they want to go to me, it's

1372
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 26: not like the All Blacks. Maybe you know you have

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Speaker 26: to consider it and say, well, she's going to get

1374
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Speaker 26: better and if that's going to be better for the

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Speaker 26: silver ferns, then we have to look at it.

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon allers, look?

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Speaker 25: I reckon Wiki is possibly ahead of the curve here

1378
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 25: because Nickborn New Zealand may eventually go back to Nepple Australia.

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Speaker 25: They may form another competition and then that will be scraped.

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Speaker 5: So therefore she'll.

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Speaker 25: Be, you know, welcomed back with open arms. I mean, otherwise,

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Speaker 25: I mean they've got they've already had their own sort

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Speaker 25: of gives O law for like with the comparison to

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Speaker 25: the rugby with Laura langlam Maria Philau being able to

1385
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 25: play after they reach a certain number of caps, certain

1386
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 25: number of season service. But I don't think it's going

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Speaker 25: to come to that. I suspect it's not the last

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Speaker 25: time that we've seen Grayson wiki in in a black dress.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I hope. So guys, listen, thank you really appreciate it.

1390
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Speaker 3: Go and enjoy your weekend to sport, have a lovely

1391
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: Friday evening. Try not to behave like Ethan de Groot

1392
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: whatever he'd ad eight away from six. That was our

1393
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: sports huddle. Andrew Ordison and Clay Wilson.

1394
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: Red or Blue, Trump or Harris who will win the

1395
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: battleground states. The latest on the US election is Heather

1396
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: Duplicy allan drive with one New Zealand let's get connected,

1397
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: use talks'd be.

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Speaker 3: Hither. The groundwork for the trade deal wasn't done by

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Speaker 3: Todd mcclay's was started in twenty twenty two by labor.

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Speaker 3: They deserve some of the credit. Wasn't done in the

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01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 3: last twelve months, like we've been led to believe today. No, absolutely,

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01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 3: if they started in twenty two, they deserve absolutely the

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01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 3: credit for restarting it. The problem with this particular trade

1404
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: deal is we've started a bunch of times. It's the

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01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: finishing that counts, As it is with any trade deal,

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01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 3: it's always the finishing that counts. So I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 3: just like the uk FTA the credit went to de

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Speaker 3: Cinder and the EUFTA, the credit went to Desinder this

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01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 3: time around, even though the other governments have done the

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Speaker 3: work on it. Yeah, credit goes to Todd McLay because

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Speaker 3: he actually managed to sign the deal and shut the

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01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 3: thing down. Now five away from six, I've gone back

1413
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 3: to the old days. Got my investigative journalist hat on

1414
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 3: for you to try and solve one final question. I

1415
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 3: think we've got to the bottom of it. This is

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Speaker 3: on the outer Teddy. Okay, this is the question of

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Speaker 3: the coffee. This is the thing that started the whole thing,

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01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: because you remember New Zealand first said somebody on the

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01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 3: bridge went off the bridge to go get a coffee

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Speaker 3: and that's why the chap ran aground and they weren't

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Speaker 3: paying attention and the order pilot was on. Well, yesterday

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Speaker 3: I asked Duncan Roy about the order pilot and the coffee.

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Speaker 3: He's the man in charge of Witneter Islander and he

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01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 3: said nobody left. Nobody left to get a coffee. Did

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Speaker 3: somebody go get a coffee?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can put that to bed right now, the

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Speaker 2: right number of people are on the bridge doing their

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Speaker 2: job professionally.

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Speaker 7: No one left the bridge to get coffee.

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Speaker 3: No one left the bridge to get coffee. Well, did

1431
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 3: I start getting texts from people then saying yeah, but

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Speaker 3: they didn't have to leave the bridge to get coffee

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01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 3: because the coffee machine is on the bridge. And the

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Speaker 3: guy who even installed the coffee machine text me to

1435
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: say I know the coffee machines on the bridge because

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01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 3: I put the coffee machine on the bridge. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: did the investigative journalism thing and I cooled into Islander today,

1438
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: which is not very investigative, and I said, all right,

1439
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 3: answer the question for me is the coffee machine on

1440
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 3: the bridge or what? And they have messaged me back.

1441
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say that didn't actually definitively answered that question.

1442
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 3: But I get well, because why would they, Right, they

1443
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to dick me around a little bit

1444
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: more like every other comms person in the world, and

1445
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 3: so they did. The answer is, most ships bridges have

1446
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Speaker 3: a place to make tea and coffee and get a

1447
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 3: glass of water. This is standard across the world. So

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Speaker 3: I'm reading between the lines that the art Teta has

1449
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: the coffee machine on the bridge, which is why Duncan

1450
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 3: could say nobody left the bridge to get a coffee.

1451
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: But they also added some context. At the time of

1452
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Speaker 3: the incident, the basic coffee machine on art Tetey's bridge. Yes,

1453
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 3: there you go, it's on the bridge was not being used,

1454
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: nor were any of the masters drinking coffee. So for

1455
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 3: once and for all, we will draw We do not

1456
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 3: have to wait eighteen months for the final report. We

1457
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 3: can draw a line through this nobody was using the

1458
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 3: coffee machine. It was there, It was right there. It

1459
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 3: was sitting there tempting that that little George Clooney ness

1460
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: cafe machine right there. Nobody used it. Nobody was drinking coffee.

1461
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Speaker 3: There was no coffee involved in the grounding of the

1462
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 3: artist head. It was just something else entirely. Talk more

1463
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 3: about the FDA and x NEUSTORGSB.

1464
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: We're business inside the Business Hour we'd headed due to

1465
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: c Allen and my Hr on News dogs FB.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up with the next hour, Peter Lewis

1467
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 3: is going to talk us through what the Chinese are

1468
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 3: making of the US selection as it unfolds. Very sop

1469
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 3: will wrap the political week that was, and we also

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Speaker 3: have Gavin Gray with us out of the UK seven

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Speaker 3: past six Now. Industry groups are pretty stoked about the

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Speaker 3: news of the free trade deal with the Golf States

1473
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 3: and the deal we've signed with the Golf Corporation Council

1474
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 3: that eliminates almost all tariffs on our exports to Saudi Arabia,

1475
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 3: the UAE and a few other countries over the next

1476
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 3: ten years and trade mins to Todd McClay was with

1477
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Speaker 3: Mike this morning and said there's a lot of demand

1478
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 3: in these countries for our food.

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Speaker 11: Certainly, the conversations I've had with the various countries and

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Speaker 11: all six of the trade ministers from these countries today

1481
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 11: here when we are initial, you know, the end of

1482
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:19,520
Speaker 11: negotiation is their desire to have long term, sustainable relationships

1483
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 11: where when they need the food, we will supply it

1484
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Speaker 11: to them.

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Speaker 3: Kate Aklan is the chair of Beef and Lamin is

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01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 3: with us. Now, Hey, Kate, Hi, Heather, Kate, are you

1487
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 3: surprised that the live sheep experts didn't come up?

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01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 27: Well?

1489
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 28: Look, pleasantly surprised? Yes, I mean this is really good news.

1490
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 27: This deal.

1491
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 28: It's not you know, the GCC, it's not the biggest

1492
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 28: market for red meat, but it's a really high value

1493
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 28: market and it's for us to be one of the

1494
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 28: fastest growing regions for beef and cheap meat consumption.

1495
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 27: So you know, it is really good news.

1496
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 3: Why were you pleasantly surprised that it didn't come up,

1497
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 3: Because surely ever came up and they still wanted our

1498
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 3: live exports. Then that's a whole export there that we

1499
01:08:58,960 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 3: can make money off.

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 28: Look, I don't think live exports are on the table

1501
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 28: at all, So you know, I think what we need

1502
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 28: to do is really take advantage of the opportunity that

1503
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 28: we have to, as the Minister said, you know, send

1504
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 28: really high value, safe, secure food into what is a

1505
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 28: great market.

1506
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 3: What kind of tariffs are you guys facing over there?

1507
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 28: Look, the tariffs aren't huge. But what this does that

1508
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 28: these FDA agreements they give certainty to us that, you know,

1509
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:32,759
Speaker 28: as we are facing increasing geopolitical uncertainty and you're seeing

1510
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 28: protectionist measures come on or the threat of protectionist measures,

1511
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 28: these FTA is actually lock in tariff free trades, so

1512
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 28: that gives us as farmers, really good certainty that we

1513
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 28: have good, diverse markets.

1514
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 3: So given that there aren't that many tariffs that you face, well,

1515
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 3: what tariffs you face are not that high. Do you

1516
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 3: think that the removal of the tariffs is actually going

1517
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 3: to lead to a growth in the market over there

1518
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 3: for you?

1519
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 28: Look, I think it will and that you know they

1520
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 28: haven't done a lot of free trade deals with the gccs,

1521
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 28: so actually this will give us a bit of a

1522
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 28: it's a competitive market and this will give us a

1523
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 28: competitive advantage over other countries like Australia who are currently

1524
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 28: selling quite a lot of product in there.

1525
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 3: He was impressed with Todd McLay as I am, and

1526
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting him to knock it out of the

1527
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 3: park like this.

1528
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 27: Oh look, I think he's doing a great job.

1529
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 28: He seems to be taking a really sort of pragmatic

1530
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 28: approach to getting this trade deal through.

1531
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 27: So long lay it continued, Too're.

1532
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 3: Right, okay, thank you, man. I really appreciated. Kate Aklan,

1533
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 3: chair of Beef and Lamb. I'll tell you what, the

1534
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: cost of living crisis hasn't hit Apple as in the

1535
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 3: cell phone BA because the sales of the new iPhone

1536
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 3: sixteen are up now. Everybody was kind of going to

1537
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 3: watch that to see whether this was going to work

1538
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 3: well for them because it's launched in an awkward time

1539
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 3: and whatnot. It's beat the Wall Street projections of how

1540
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 3: many we're going to sell and as buy up, I

1541
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 3: mean beat what happened what they were doing last year.

1542
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 3: And this is despite the fact that China's buying fewer

1543
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 3: of the phones now. According to the quarterly earnings report,

1544
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 3: they sold about forty six of the revenue from my

1545
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 3: phone sales was about forty six point two billion dollars.

1546
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 3: That was up from forty three point eight billion year

1547
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 3: oh year year on year. Unfortunately, though not the same

1548
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 3: story for the other products which they are selling. So

1549
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 3: Apple Watch and air pods have declined for four straight

1550
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 3: quarters and I can't quite explain that. And maybe that's

1551
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 3: because your your cell phone isn't really a luxury purchase anymore,

1552
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 3: because you just need a cell phone, don't you, If

1553
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 3: you like you need it for work, you need it

1554
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 3: for life, blah blah blah. But maybe your air pods

1555
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 3: you can kind of hold on to the old ones

1556
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 3: or buy just some cheapies. The Apple Watches a bit

1557
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 3: of a luxury item, isn't it. It's completely unnecessary. It's

1558
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 3: a folly, isn't it? As a folly? Although it's fascinating.

1559
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 3: So now I've got two nights worth, I've got two

1560
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 3: well stop it ants, got two nights worth of sleep data.

1561
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 3: It's amazing how little deep sleep you do?

1562
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 27: Do you know that?

1563
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 3: Did you know that? Like in a whole nights? I

1564
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 3: slept for eight and a half hours last night and

1565
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 3: I only got in total fifty three minutes of deep sleep.

1566
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 3: That's shocking to me. I thought it was like definitely

1567
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 3: going to be about two thirds. Anyway, this is what

1568
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 3: happens a You know, people who have babies love to

1569
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 3: show other people the photos of the babies. People get

1570
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 3: Apple watches just want to talk about their sleep pattern,

1571
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 3: don't they.

1572
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 2: Six twelve Analysis from the experts, bringing you everything you

1573
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: need to know on the US election. It's The Business

1574
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Myhr Ehr. Solution for

1575
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Speaker 2: busy SMEs used talks it'd.

1576
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Speaker 3: Be hither it properly helps that Apple are massively discounting

1577
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 3: the iPhone sixteen, making it their cheapest phone. I just

1578
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: got one for the wife. You're a lovely man, aren't

1579
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 3: you just got one for the wife, upgrading from an

1580
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 3: iPhone eight and a fourteen hundred dollar phone had a

1581
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 3: seven hundred dollar credit against it. Well, Darren, that's impressive.

1582
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 3: Thanks for that quarter past six. All right, let's wrap

1583
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 3: the political week that was with seeing your political correspondent

1584
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: Barry Soper. Welcome back, Barry, Hello again. Have you changed

1585
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 3: your mind about who's going to win the American election?

1586
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 3: Who's still all Carmela the whole way?

1587
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 15: I've been watching it, well, not all days today because

1588
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 15: other things to do, but I've certainly been watching them

1589
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 15: out on the campaign trail and more sensible is Carmela Harris,

1590
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 15: no doubt about it. I mean, Donald Trump is onto

1591
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 15: his usual sort of full, frank and meaningless garbage that

1592
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 15: he spills out to his voters and you know, telling

1593
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 15: them how much he loves them, and of course how

1594
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 15: much he loves Porto Ricans.

1595
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 3: And how nobody has done more for Puerto Ricans than Donald.

1596
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 15: Has in the history of the world. So yeah, look again,

1597
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 15: it comes down from my point of view, how on

1598
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 15: earth could anyone go out and vote for Donald Trump.

1599
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 15: But then you know, we saw last time around that

1600
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 15: more Americans went out and voted for him than voted

1601
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 15: for Hillary Clinton. That doesn't surprise me greatly because Hillary

1602
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 15: Clinton was not a candidate that should ever have been

1603
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:00,799
Speaker 15: put up by the Democrat I make.

1604
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 3: The same argument of Karmena.

1605
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 15: Well, she had no choice though, I mean Karmala Harris.

1606
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 15: It was so close to the election. They couldn't possibly

1607
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 15: go ahead with Joe Biden as we.

1608
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 3: Saw they could have had they could have had it

1609
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 3: contested the inside well, they could.

1610
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 15: Have had, but then it would have taken more time

1611
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 15: and given the run up to the election, it would

1612
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 15: have been much shorter in terms of the Democrats getting

1613
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 15: a foothold. So Karmala Harris, whether the Democrats like it

1614
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 15: or not.

1615
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 7: Was the choice.

1616
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 15: And I don't think she's as bad as what many say,

1617
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 15: although I have to say when I heard her speech

1618
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 15: this week bringing up, you know, child poverty, she was

1619
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 15: going to drag children out of poverty, she was going

1620
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 15: to cut the red tape, she was going to build

1621
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 15: more houses. I heard another very well not articulate, but

1622
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 15: verbose politician that we had in Jacinda durn promising the

1623
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 15: same thing.

1624
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 7: There are very strong just the vibes, and.

1625
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 15: I think that could be a warning shot maybe for

1626
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 15: Karmala Harris, because we saw how the public turned against

1627
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 15: Jacinda Dern in a very short time after the twenty

1628
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 15: twenty election.

1629
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 7: So really, I.

1630
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 15: Think that you've got to have more substance, maybe than

1631
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 15: what Krmala Harris has been exemplifying. Although having said that,

1632
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 15: when you talk about substance, I think Donald Trump is

1633
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 15: about as deep puddle.

1634
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 3: You're gonna answer my question, have you changed your mind?

1635
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 3: Is she still gonna win?

1636
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 15: Oh?

1637
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 3: Of course she's gonna win.

1638
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 7: You'll win.

1639
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, And if you're right, what do we have

1640
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 3: to acknowledge? About you.

1641
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 15: If I'm right, Yeah, how brilliant I am.

1642
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 3: And if you're wrong and I'm right, what are you

1643
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 3: going to acknowledge about him?

1644
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 15: I of course would not say that at all. Mine

1645
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,799
Speaker 15: is only an inkling of the way. Maybe the psyche

1646
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 15: should wink all right, listen. So it's probably more wishful

1647
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 15: thinking than because I don't think Donald.

1648
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 3: Trump, I think it'd be good for new I think

1649
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 3: you're doing wishful thinking.

1650
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 7: Barry.

1651
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're self diagnosed. I'm glad you have well.

1652
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 15: I got it wrong with Hillary Clinton and Trump because

1653
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 15: I've never ever thought that somebody like Trump should lead

1654
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 15: any country of any significance.

1655
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 3: It's gum boot Friday today. You are you surprised at

1656
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 3: the reaction that Mike King's comments have.

1657
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 7: Got, Well, look, like I said, I don't.

1658
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 15: He didn't actually mean that alcohol was the panacea for

1659
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 15: mental health. He was saying that it stops the trigger

1660
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 15: from being pulled. Maybe, and as he said, when you

1661
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 15: get over it a hangover, then it all kicks back

1662
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 15: and again take another head of alcohol or drugs and

1663
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 15: you get over that trigger point. And I think to

1664
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 15: that extent he was right. Maybe he didn't explain it

1665
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 15: very well. He's gone out again today I see and

1666
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 15: has explained himself online explaining what he meant.

1667
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 7: And it is gumboot Friday.

1668
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,919
Speaker 15: A lot of rubbish has been talked by Labor about

1669
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 15: the twenty four million dollars that the government has airmarked

1670
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 15: for this. It doesn't go into Mike King's account. It's

1671
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 15: split up into four years, six million dollars a year.

1672
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 15: And if that sees more young people in trouble before counselors,

1673
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 15: I say, it's money well spent totally.

1674
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 3: Ginny Anderson, right, so she is. We can put this

1675
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 3: one to bed now with the Andrew Bailey brew haha,

1676
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 3: that shouldn't have been this also, we can say finished

1677
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 3: with us.

1678
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 7: Well, it's interesting, isn't it.

1679
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 15: The media's handling of Andrew Bailey relentless. It was, although

1680
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 15: you did mention the other day that we are in

1681
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 15: recess this week.

1682
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 3: It makes a difference. Well, because you can't hound her.

1683
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 15: No, you can't yet, so hopefully it's put to bed.

1684
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 15: I think for her though, to say that she maybe

1685
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 15: should have read the meme more closely before seeing it

1686
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 15: on her Instagram account is patently ridiculous and it's an

1687
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 15: excuse it doesn't hold water because the meme I think

1688
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 15: it had four very short lines on it, and if

1689
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 15: it takes you that long to read it and understand it,

1690
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 15: you'd have to question whether you should be in parliament.

1691
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 3: Barry, thanks very much, really appreciate it's very sober. Senior

1692
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 3: political correspondent wrapping the political week, there was hey, hey

1693
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 3: really quickly on this business was zespriy Esper's a bit

1694
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 3: funny about this say they don't like to talk about

1695
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 3: it is We wanted to talk to them on the

1696
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 3: show about it and they were like, oh, I don't

1697
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 3: really want to talk about it, but they put it

1698
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 3: out there. They let you know that this is happening.

1699
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 3: They don't want to spend too much time on it.

1700
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 3: I think it's probably an indication of how serious this is,

1701
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 3: because it is serious. So it looks like the issue

1702
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 3: of illegal growing of kiwi fruit in China is becoming

1703
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 3: quite a big problem for Zesbury. They are now saying

1704
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 3: the plantings are as big as and remember we're just

1705
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 3: talking about illegal gold here, right, not not anything else,

1706
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 3: not green, not red, just gold. The illegal plantings of

1707
01:18:54,720 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 3: gold are now the equivalent of forty million trays in

1708
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 3: in zes in China. Sorry, half of those twenty million

1709
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 3: trays are really excellent standard. They're like, they're basically the

1710
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 3: equivalent to Zespri's first class quality standard. Now, to give

1711
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 3: you some context here, Zespriy exports a total of one

1712
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety million trays of Kiwi frus in the season,

1713
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 3: and that's in a record season, so the highest, the

1714
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 3: highest that we've ever exported as one ninety million. Right,

1715
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 3: these guys are turning around forty million dodgy stuff in China.

1716
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 3: There's twenty one percent of what we're sending overseas. That

1717
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 3: is really significant, isn't it. You can understand why why

1718
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 3: they don't really want to talk about it. Tom Lathan's out,

1719
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 3: So that's fifty nine for two? How many? How many

1720
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 3: did he get?

1721
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 5: Ants?

1722
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 27: Do you know?

1723
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 3: I'll probably work it out? Hold on, Young's got forty three. No,

1724
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 3: Young's got oh, I can't work it out twenty eight?

1725
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 3: So what was Darcy to as Darcy was sitting here, going, oh,

1726
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 3: Tom Lathan's doing really well, he's got great innings on.

1727
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 12: Well, he got like sixty eight last time, like it

1728
01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 12: was very very good.

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Speaker 3: Sixty eight is not very very good for an opening

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Speaker 3: Batsman sixty eight is okay.

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Speaker 12: I think above sixty is very good. Oh maybe I'm

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Speaker 12: just accepting mediocrity.

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Speaker 3: Standards and standards. You've got to play like the Indians.

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Speaker 3: You got to get one hundred. So anyway, he's out

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Speaker 3: for twenty eight, So that's not that flashes at six

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Speaker 3: twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Croaching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 2: It's hither duplicy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to

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01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 2: my HR, the HR solution for busy Smy's on news talks.

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Speaker 3: Ib Berry's Trump derangement syndrome is quite funny. He'll blow

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01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 3: a valve of Trump wins. Well, that's what I'm worried about,

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01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 3: because he's got a dodgy techer already. So any more

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01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 3: on Donald Trump. Not only has Barry got Trump de

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01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 3: arrangement syndrome, but so to the Democrats, they're completely losing

1745
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 3: their minds at the moment over something Donald Trump said

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01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 3: at a rally last night. So he lifted the lid

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Speaker 3: on how his campaign team have told him not capitals

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Speaker 3: in ot not to speak about women.

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Speaker 24: And my people told me about four weeks ago. I

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Speaker 24: always say no, I want to protect the people. I

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Speaker 24: want to protect the women of our country. I want

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Speaker 24: to protect the women, Sir, please don't say that. Why.

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Speaker 24: They said, we think it's we think it's very inappropriate

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Speaker 24: for you to say. So why I'm president, I want

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Speaker 24: to protect the women of our country.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know if you could kind of

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Speaker 3: see this coming. He's not going to take the advice,

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Speaker 3: is he.

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Speaker 24: They said, Sir, I just think it's inappropriate for you

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Speaker 24: to say, pay these guys a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Can you believe it?

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Speaker 24: They said, Well, I'm going to do it, whether the

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Speaker 24: women like it or not. I'm going to protect them.

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Speaker 24: I'm going to protect them from migrants coming in. I'm

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Speaker 24: going to protect them from foreign countries that want to

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Speaker 24: hit us with missiles and lots of other things.

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Speaker 3: And Carmelin not want to ever see the liberty in anything.

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Speaker 3: Has taken it really seriously.

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Speaker 9: I will comment on the former president Donald Trump's remark

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Speaker 9: about women and whether they like it or not, and listen,

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Speaker 9: it's just it actually is very offensive to women in

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Speaker 9: terms of not understanding their agency, their authority, their right,

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Speaker 9: and their ability to make decisions about their own lives,

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Speaker 9: including their own bodies. And this is just the latest

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Speaker 9: on a series of reveals by the former president of

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Speaker 9: how he thinks about women and their agency.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like you're reading too much into it, lady,

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Speaker 3: but you do you whatever. Peter Lewis is going to

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Speaker 3: be with us out of Hong Kong shortly. He's going

1780
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Speaker 3: to give us a view on I mean, we're enjoying

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Speaker 3: the UA selection from Afar, aren't we with our own perspective.

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Speaker 3: I'm quite keen to hear how the Chinese are enjoying

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Speaker 3: it with their perspective. So he'll run us through shortly

1784
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 3: headlines next.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics.

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Speaker 2: It's all on the Business Hour with Hither Dup of

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01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 2: c Allen and my HR the HR solution for busy

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Speaker 2: sms U stalks a be look.

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Speaker 10: Stuff, worgainst at your truck? Greats did your good from minor?

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Speaker 3: It's fun house.

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Speaker 10: That's away.

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Speaker 3: I have luck to you go across what's gone on

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Speaker 3: with Gloria Veil because they've been in court and they're

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01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 3: arguing for the BNZ to keep their accounts open and

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01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 3: blah bah blah. So get you across those details shortly.

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Speaker 3: Gavin Graves with us in ten minutes time. If you

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Speaker 3: are angry with Mike King for what he said in

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01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 3: that interview with us about the booze, you might want

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Speaker 3: to hear this. Obviously, everybody. Everybody's chipped in, everybody and

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Speaker 3: their dog, including me. We've all chipped in with our thoughts,

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Speaker 3: haven't we. And the chief executive of the Mental Health Foundation,

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Speaker 3: Sean Robinson has also chipped in, and he has what

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Speaker 3: he has to say carries more weight than the average

1804
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Speaker 3: punter because he has had suicidal ideation, he has had

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Speaker 3: all kinds of issues with mental health. He's also the

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Speaker 3: CEO of the mental health organization right a foundation, isn't he?

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Speaker 3: He says, Mike King actually has a valid point with

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Speaker 3: what he was trying to say. He said, what Mike

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Speaker 3: was trying to say about how people use alcohol when

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Speaker 3: they are really struggling was totally valid. But I think

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Speaker 3: we also need to bring in the science, the research,

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Speaker 3: the expert voices. So just bear that in mind when

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01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 3: people are losing their minds about what is going on

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Speaker 3: here and really upset about it, this guy says was

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Speaker 3: a valid point to be made. By the way, on

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Speaker 3: the cricket we've lost another work of seventy two for

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Speaker 3: three Russian. Rabindra is out. It wasn't then for very long.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what he's out for. Oh five, Oh Russian.

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Speaker 12: You gotta done better than that by our old enemy Washington.

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Speaker 3: Washington again, Yeah, Washington took him. Oh dear, Okay, anyway,

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Speaker 3: So look, we got two. You know, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: if the third one is lost, is it? I'm fine

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Speaker 3: about that. Twenty three away from seven, hear the duplessy

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Speaker 3: Ellen Peter Lewis Asia Business corresponding with us Now Hi,

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Speaker 3: Peter good evening had that, So even more stimulus coming

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Speaker 3: from China.

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Speaker 29: A huge amount of stimulus coming down the pipes, if

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Speaker 29: we believe the media reports something along the lines of

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Speaker 29: one point four trillion dollars to try and shore up

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Speaker 29: basically China's economy and also deal with all the debt

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Speaker 29: that's been accumulated by the local governments, particularly in the

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Speaker 29: property market. There needs to be a complete shakeup of

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Speaker 29: how local governments raise money, because they can't raise it

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Speaker 29: from taxes on land sales anymore, because the property developers

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Speaker 29: are either bankrupt or they've built too many houses already,

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Speaker 29: and there's far more houses that are unfinished than there

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Speaker 29: are people to live in them. So this stimulus is

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Speaker 29: going to be directed mainly at the local governments to

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Speaker 29: try and help them swap what is in effect local

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Speaker 29: government debts that's hidden off their balance sheets with central

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Speaker 29: governments debts in the hope that this sort of unclogs

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Speaker 29: the pipes and starts getting money flowing again to local

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Speaker 29: businesses because there's lots of who haven't been paid, there's

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Speaker 29: suppliers who haven't received their money either, to try and

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Speaker 29: get that whole process up and running again, and Beijing

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Speaker 29: is relying very heavily on this to try and stimulate

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Speaker 29: the economy. I'm not so sure. I think what tends

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Speaker 29: to happen with things like this is they have a

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Speaker 29: temporary boost, particularly when you're borrowing a lot of money

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Speaker 29: to try and stimulate your economies. Maybe the UK is

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Speaker 29: about to find out, but that economic impact wears off

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Speaker 29: very very quickly unless you deal with the underlying fundamental problem.

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Speaker 29: And the underlying fundamental problem in China is very difficult

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Speaker 29: to deal with because of the demographics, because there are

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Speaker 29: far less people who want to buy homes at the moment,

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Speaker 29: so the whole property market is going to take many

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Speaker 29: years to be resolved, and it's going to take a

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Speaker 29: long time before prices start moving up again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how long do you reckon? I mean, if we're

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Speaker 3: talking about demographics where you have to wait for people

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Speaker 3: to want to buy houses, and mean it's talking about

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Speaker 3: potentially decades or a decade.

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Speaker 29: Yes, absolutely, I mean this could take many years to resolve.

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Speaker 29: We're not going to see house prices in the meantime

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Speaker 29: moved back to previous levels. The risk is that they're

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Speaker 29: actually going to move even lower in the meantime. And

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Speaker 29: we don't really know what is the true value of

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Speaker 29: these homes because the Chinese government won't let us find out.

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Speaker 29: They have a lot of controls whether or not local

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Speaker 29: authorities can raise or lower prices, whether the developments developers

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Speaker 29: can do that. So we don't really know what is

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Speaker 29: the clearing price of all this unfinished, unsold property in China.

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Speaker 29: All we do know is that there is way way

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Speaker 29: too much of it, and the clearing price the true

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Speaker 29: price of these homes is probably a lot lower.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually, a very good point that you make there. No, listen,

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Speaker 3: tell me, how are you guys witnessing the US election?

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Speaker 3: What do people think of it?

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Speaker 29: Well, they're waiting with some trepidation for the results next week,

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Speaker 29: because all American elections tend to be consequential, but this

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Speaker 29: one is going to be more consequential than any we've

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Speaker 29: seen for quite a long time, particularly if Donald Trump wins.

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Speaker 29: I mean, here's the self proclaimed tariff man. He says,

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Speaker 29: tariff is the most beautiful word in the English language,

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Speaker 29: and we have to remember that it's threatening blanket tariff's

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Speaker 29: of twenty percent on all exports into the US and

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Speaker 29: sixty percent on Chinese ones. Now, if people think he's bluffing,

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Speaker 29: I think that he intends to carry this through. I

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Speaker 29: think he feels that one of the big mistakes when

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Speaker 29: he was last president was not having people around him

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Speaker 29: who were supportive enough of his agenda. So he doesn't

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Speaker 29: want to make that same mistake twice. He's surrounding himself

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Speaker 29: with people who are going to absolutely carry out that agenda,

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Speaker 29: and tariffs is going to be a very big part

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Speaker 29: of that. So the risk is that this could cloak

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Speaker 29: totally reorder the global trading system, with consequences for the

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Speaker 29: global economy. The IMF says it could wipe out the

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Speaker 29: equivalent of the GDPs of France and Germany off of

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Speaker 29: global growth if he goes through with this, So it

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Speaker 29: is very consequential. He's already been attacking, and he doesn't

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Speaker 29: distinguish between friends and enemies. So Japan, for example, which

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Speaker 29: is trying to get around this problem by investing an

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Speaker 29: enormous amount in the US in terms of opening plants

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Speaker 29: there over the past years and decades, could be hit. Taiwan.

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Speaker 6: Certainly.

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Speaker 29: He was accusing Taiwan over the weekend of stealing the

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Speaker 29: US chip business. He didn't explain how exactly Taiwan had

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Speaker 29: done that, but he said they've stolen basically American business

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Speaker 29: from companies like Intel, and is going to put tariffs

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Speaker 29: on Taiwan's semiconductor or Taiwan's semiconductor manufacturing makes ninety percent

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Speaker 29: of the world's advanced chips, has huge clients Navidia, Apple, Microsoft,

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Speaker 29: So this would have enormous implications for the global supply

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Speaker 29: chain if he goes ahead with it.

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Speaker 3: Does China have a preference? Do you think as do

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Speaker 3: with it's Trump or Kamala who wins.

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Speaker 29: Well, that's what we've been wondering. It's hard to know

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Speaker 29: because Kamala Harris isn't going to be that much better

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Speaker 29: for China because that signals are more a continuation with

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Speaker 29: Biden's policy, and Biden has hardly been friendly to China.

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Speaker 29: Are the either mean some of his tariffs have been

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Speaker 29: very very damaging to Chinese exporters and also damaging to

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Speaker 29: China's ability to develop its own high tech industry. So

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Speaker 29: a continuation of that is not going to be particularly

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01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 29: good for China. But at the same time it could

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Speaker 29: get ramped up in a very specific way in terms

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Speaker 29: of a lot more tariffs if Donald Trump is in power.

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Speaker 29: So we have been wondering what Beijing preferred. Of course

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Speaker 29: we don't know. They're not going to say, so we

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Speaker 29: can only speculate, but I think that they see this

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Speaker 29: as whoever wins, it's not going to be particularly good

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Speaker 29: for Beijing.

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Speaker 3: No, probably not. Hey, Peter, thank you very much. Enjoy

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Speaker 3: the last weekend before the election. That's Peter Lewis, our

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Speaker 3: Asia business correspondent with US out of Hong Kong, seventeen

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Speaker 3: away from seven Gavin Gray out of the UK.

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Speaker 2: Next, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business

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Speaker 2: Hour with hither DUPLEICLS and my HR, the HR solution

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Speaker 2: for busy SMS on news Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen away from seven B and Z and Gloriaval have

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Speaker 3: been in the Court of Appeal right to discuss what's

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Speaker 3: going to happen with the bank accounts. Bn Z is

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Speaker 3: trying to shut down all of all of Gloriavale's bank accounts.

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Speaker 3: GLORIAVL is trying to keep them open. Gloria of L

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Speaker 3: says it's changed its ways. All the bad stuff that

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Speaker 3: bean Z doesn't like, you know, the human rights policy

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Speaker 3: being breached and so on and so on, and they

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Speaker 3: don't do that stuff anymore. This has changed the way.

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Speaker 3: It's changed the ways. But what's really interesting is that

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Speaker 3: basically big being zed to keep the accounts open because

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Speaker 3: nobody else will bank them now. So that the lawyer

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Speaker 3: representing Glory of OL said, Glory of Our's companies will fail, schools,

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Speaker 3: food living as required will not be able to eventuate,

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Speaker 3: and it will effectively end the community. Now, there'll be

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Speaker 3: a lot of people out there who don't think that's

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Speaker 3: altogether a bad thing, and I would agree with you,

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Speaker 3: not a bad thing to end the community, but the

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Speaker 3: price you pay for that, I don't like the precedent

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Speaker 3: it sets, and I would say better to keep things

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Speaker 3: the way they are. I wouldn't want the precedent of

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Speaker 3: a bank being able to decide who al banks, even

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Speaker 3: at the cost of keeping gloriavel open. Gavin Gray, UK

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Speaker 3: correspondent with US Now hey, Gavin, Hi there, Gavin. How

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Speaker 3: big is the search efforts still going on in Spain?

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Speaker 1: It's massive.

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Speaker 13: A whole city of Valencia, absolutely in some neighborhoods destroyed

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Speaker 13: by a mass flash flood. They have a year's worth

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Speaker 13: of rainfall in eight hours. It's led to one hundred

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Speaker 13: and f fifty eight deaths in Spain's worst flooding disaster,

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Speaker 13: and one hundred and fifty five of those recorded in

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Speaker 13: that city of Valencia in the southeast of the country.

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Speaker 13: More than one two hundred workers now deployed in a

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Speaker 13: rescue mission. But that rescue mission is getting increasingly depressing,

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Speaker 13: because you know, time has ticked on since Tuesday's floods,

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Speaker 13: and it's feared that many, many dozens remain missing the

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Speaker 13: task of recovering bodies from the mud and wreckage of

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Speaker 13: this flash flood that swept cars down streets as rivers

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Speaker 13: burst their banks. I mean, the pictures are extraordinary. The

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Speaker 13: damage is obviously deeply distressing. One British Man believed to

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Speaker 13: have died among those. As I said, the death toll

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Speaker 13: still rising, and the storm still sitting over Spain, sweeping

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Speaker 13: its way up into the northeastern region.

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Speaker 3: As we talk, Gevin, this al Fayed thing has become far,

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Speaker 3: far bigger than any of us could have imagined when

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Speaker 3: it first blew up.

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Speaker 1: Ryan, Yeah, very much so.

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Speaker 13: And now we learn that some four hundred alleged victims

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Speaker 13: or witnesses have come forward. So Mohammed al fa Ed

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Speaker 13: was boss of world's famous department store Harold's in London,

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Speaker 13: and during that time there are all these allegations that

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Speaker 13: have now come forward that he was basically using his

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Speaker 13: power to abuse people, and that also took place at

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Speaker 13: the football club he owned, Fulham FC, the Ritz Hotel

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Speaker 13: in Paris and other places that he owned and ran.

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Speaker 13: Harod's new owners say they are utterly appalled by these allegations,

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Speaker 13: that are investigating whether any current staff are involved. And

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Speaker 13: al Fayed, of course himself died last year aged ninety four.

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Speaker 13: But this has been an extraordinary thing. One or two

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Speaker 13: have come forward and then there's been an absolute deluge

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Speaker 13: with people joining a lawyer group in order to try

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Speaker 13: and get redressed now from Harold's claiming that they didn't

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Speaker 13: oversee things properly and indeed from the al Fayed estate,

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Speaker 13: and we had learned that Harold's had previously said that

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Speaker 13: they were in the process of settling more than two

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Speaker 13: hundred and fifty claims for compensation. So the idea that

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Speaker 13: another one hundred and fiftyeth joined is obviously going to

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Speaker 13: deeply worrying for them. The survivors involved have come, yes,

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Speaker 13: from the UK, but also America, Australia, Canada, Europe and Asia,

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Speaker 13: according to the lawyers.

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Speaker 3: Now, what makes us think that the purple tunic belonged

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Speaker 3: to Alexander the Great because it wasn't found in his tomb?

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Speaker 6: Was it?

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Speaker 13: No fascinating story?

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Speaker 6: This?

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Speaker 13: So, a purple tunic found some forty seven years ago

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Speaker 13: in a tomb that's two thousand, four hundred years ago,

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Speaker 13: has now been declared by scientists as belonging to Alexander

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Speaker 13: the Great. Now he, of course, at the age of thirty,

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Speaker 13: actually managed to create one of the biggest empires, known

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Speaker 13: as the King of Macedonia, and many say he was

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Speaker 13: undefeated in battle and was the greatest leader the world

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Speaker 13: has ever seen. Now they discovered the tunic in tombs

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Speaker 13: that belonged to his family members, and in the past

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Speaker 13: it had always assumed that it must belong to one

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Speaker 13: of them. However, a series of chemical, physical, and microscopic

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Speaker 13: analysis on the fabric suggests actually it was Alexander the

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Speaker 13: greats fermosal lilac or purple cloak with a white white

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Speaker 13: sou side to it. Now they've conducted all this search.

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Speaker 13: First of all, they were slightly surprised because it's made

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Speaker 13: of cotton, which was extremely expensive and imported from Persia.

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Speaker 13: But then these other tests suggest actually know they believe

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Speaker 13: it to be Alexander the Greats that the whereabouts of

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Speaker 13: his tomb is still very much up for debate.

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Speaker 3: Very interesting. Hey, thank you very much. Kevin appreciated this,

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Speaker 3: Kevin Gray, our UK correspondent. Hey, get a load of this, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel about this. Squid gamers

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01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 3: back the brand new trailers just dropped Snake.

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01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 12: He's only always in your ober changing all.

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Speaker 3: You've understood, absolutely nothing except for the scary music, and

2040
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 3: that's all you need to understand, because it is scary.

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Speaker 3: The guy who won the last series is back. The

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Speaker 3: Red Light Green Light game is back. It lands on

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Speaker 3: Boxing Day, So you know, if you know, if you

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01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 3: like summer holidays look far too nice, just introduce this

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Speaker 3: ight away from seven Getting ready.

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Speaker 1: For a new administration in the US, What will be

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Speaker 1: the impact?

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Speaker 2: It's the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and my

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Speaker 2: HR the HR solution for busy SMEs news talks.

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Speaker 18: A'd be.

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Speaker 3: Six away from seven. Now, you know how I love

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Speaker 3: telling you about stupid tektok trends, right because there's nothing

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Speaker 3: as stupid as a TikTok trend. I mean they're stupid,

2054
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 3: and then when they put it on TikTok, it is

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01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 3: just get such an uptake across the world that it's

2056
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Speaker 3: even more stupid. It's stupid amplified. The latest one is

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Speaker 3: beef tallow Beef tellow all over your face. If you've

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01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 3: got an issue like arda know, yxma dermatitis, they reckon

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01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,719
Speaker 3: just rub that beef fat all over your face.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, so I think beef.

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Speaker 13: Towel all over my skin, especially if I'm having extra dry.

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Speaker 8: Skin like in the winter.

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Speaker 9: The fat and is like very similar to the oil

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Speaker 9: that our skin producers, so our skin absorbs it really

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Speaker 9: well and it doesn't clog up oar bors.

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Speaker 30: So I heard that beef tallot is really good for

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Speaker 30: your skin. I meet this yesterday from a big package

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Speaker 30: of ground beef that I got.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you're like beef tellot, what's that beef tallow is?

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Speaker 3: Do you know when you get yourself a big, big

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01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 3: beef roast and you roast it and then you cut

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Speaker 3: the bits off that you want for dinner that night,

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Speaker 3: and then you leave the rest just sitting there in

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Speaker 3: the roasting pan, and you know, by the time you've

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Speaker 3: had your dinner and you come back, it's cooled right

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Speaker 3: down and it's just got that kind of waxy, fatty

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Speaker 3: white stuff floating on the top. That is beef tallow.

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Speaker 3: That is what they're rubbing all over their face. Is

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Speaker 3: it a good idea? Well, dermatolog just the same.

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Speaker 30: Not really, Sorry to break it to your world, but

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Speaker 30: beef talot does not have those properties. It is really

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Speaker 30: just an oil. We actually McDonald's used to use it

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Speaker 30: to fry their fries. In beef tallow is an oil.

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Speaker 30: You can put it on your skin and it's going

2085
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Speaker 30: to do exactly what an oil is going to do.

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Speaker 30: It's gonna break down.

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Speaker 27: I'm gonna smell that good.

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Speaker 3: It can go off and ranted, it can go off

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Speaker 3: on your face and literally there is that doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: how pure you make your beef tallow, it will always

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01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 3: smell a little bit like cow.

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Speaker 12: That's pretty gross and interesting choice for a beauty product.

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Speaker 12: I would think, yeah, not that I would know its TikTok.

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Speaker 3: Everything's an interesting choice on TikTok.

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Speaker 12: That's a very good point, Lily Allen smile to play

2096
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 12: us out tonight. Another story from the Internet. Actually, Lily

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Speaker 12: Allen makes more money on her only fans than she

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Speaker 12: does from making music. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So she sells

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Speaker 12: pictures of her feet on only Fans. This has come

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Speaker 12: out because she says, basically, she was at the pedicurist

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Speaker 12: one time. The pedicurius is like, oh, you've got pretty

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Speaker 12: nice feet. You can probably make money off that, and

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Speaker 12: she went and sort of to see if she could

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Speaker 12: do it. She's got about, oh, where's the number one

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Speaker 12: thousand people who subscribe to her only Fans account, and

2106
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Speaker 12: she makes more money off that than she does off

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Speaker 12: her seven and a half million monthly listeners on Spotify.

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Speaker 3: So would you google her feet and well, of course not.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 12: Look, I don't like throwing produce Laura under the bus,

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Speaker 12: but this was her one. Okay this I would you

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Speaker 12: google her feet, Laura?

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Speaker 3: That no bad ah.

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Speaker 12: Apparently you can find them on Wiki feet, which is

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Speaker 12: a foot finish website that collects and rates pictures of

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Speaker 12: celebrities feet and she has a perfect five star eight

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Speaker 12: and kids, definitely ask your parents before going to any

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Speaker 12: of the w But.

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Speaker 3: She maintains her feet like you can see that she's

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Speaker 3: she's waxing, she's definitely Apparently there.

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Speaker 12: Are subscriptions ten dollars US a month on only Things.

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Speaker 3: So Good Feet for that. That's fine. You would like

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Speaker 3: to talk.

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Speaker 12: About how great they are? Yeah, but did you see

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Speaker 12: even more of No, bro.

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Speaker 3: If you're to look at someone's feet, you've got something

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Speaker 3: wrong with you.

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Speaker 12: Laura's is long, toes very good as well.

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Speaker 26: There you go.

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Speaker 5: Weird.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's weird, and thanks for that. Enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to

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Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow

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